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Title: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: EduardoVS-BR on March 02, 2013, 09:27:47 AM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2r7ugyr.jpg)

Is this fake?
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: markjo on March 02, 2013, 09:35:31 AM
In b4 picture of Tattooine.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Dr.Nor on March 02, 2013, 09:35:58 AM
I'm sorry to say but sadly it's fake.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 09:39:36 AM
i suppose it depends on who you ask. but no in reality it is not. it was taken inside the Cupola module. the lady in the picture is Tracy Caldwell Dyson.

hear is a picture taken from the outside of the station looking at the module


(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/8682/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg/)

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Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 09:49:57 AM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 09:55:01 AM
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8682/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg/)

Let's put this the right side up, as it's terrible having to stand on your head to view Thaggies pic of another fake. I think a kid could put a better photo shopped head in that.  ;D
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Bollybill on March 02, 2013, 09:56:25 AM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.

Those lines look more like the ones that show up if you lean against something for a while, not that it matters to this picture at all. Also, no pixels appear edited, you are probably talking about her sleeve lol. Finally, she doesn't have to be looking at earth in the first place, but she might be in this picture you just can't tell. It looks like she may be looking at the edge of the earth to me.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Bollybill on March 02, 2013, 09:57:53 AM
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8682/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg/)

Let's put this the right side up, as it's terrible having to stand on your head to view Thaggies pic of another fake. I think a kid could put a better photo shopped head in that.  ;D

Direction depends on your reference/perspective. Both pictures aren't wrong.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 09:58:35 AM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.

Those lines look more like the ones that show up if you lean against something for a while, not that it matters to this picture at all. Also, no pixels appear edited, you are probably talking about her sleeve lol. Finally, she doesn't have to be looking at earth in the first place, but she might be in this picture you just can't tell. It looks like she may be looking at the edge of the earth to me.
Fair enough, I can't argue the point of where she's actually looking but check out her creased neck and ear and you can see manipulation if you zoom in a bit.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 09:59:48 AM
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8682/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg/)

Let's put this the right side up, as it's terrible having to stand on your head to view Thaggies pic of another fake. I think a kid could put a better photo shopped head in that.  ;D

Direction depends on your reference/perspective. Both pictures aren't wrong.
Look at the photoshopped head lol, I mean, let's be honest, I've seen better cartoon heads grafted on to real bodies that look more legit than that.  ;D
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Bollybill on March 02, 2013, 10:00:37 AM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.

Those lines look more like the ones that show up if you lean against something for a while, not that it matters to this picture at all. Also, no pixels appear edited, you are probably talking about her sleeve lol. Finally, she doesn't have to be looking at earth in the first place, but she might be in this picture you just can't tell. It looks like she may be looking at the edge of the earth to me.
Fair enough, I can't argue the point of where she's actually looking but check out her creased neck and ear and you can see manipulation if you zoom in a bit.

I addressed those in the post. Well, not the ear but I fail to see how that's manipulated either. Honestly there's an easier way for you to say its fake and it involves no manipulation.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Bollybill on March 02, 2013, 10:02:39 AM
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8682/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg/)

Let's put this the right side up, as it's terrible having to stand on your head to view Thaggies pic of another fake. I think a kid could put a better photo shopped head in that.  ;D

Direction depends on your reference/perspective. Both pictures aren't wrong.
Look at the photoshopped head lol, I mean, let's be honest, I've seen better cartoon heads grafted on to real bodies that look more legit than that.  ;D

It's not photoshopped and it doesn't even look that way. His body isn't even there FYI. The whole point of that picture is because he is in the window.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 10:03:34 AM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.

Those lines look more like the ones that show up if you lean against something for a while, not that it matters to this picture at all. Also, no pixels appear edited, you are probably talking about her sleeve lol. Finally, she doesn't have to be looking at earth in the first place, but she might be in this picture you just can't tell. It looks like she may be looking at the edge of the earth to me.
Fair enough, I can't argue the point of where she's actually looking but check out her creased neck and ear and you can see manipulation if you zoom in a bit.

I addressed those in the post. Well, not the ear but I fail to see how that's manipulated either. Honestly there's an easier way for you to say its fake and it involves no manipulation.
Of course I could say, "it's not in space" and " "where's the stars" but I'll concentrate on the blatant manipulations. Her ear and neck are a classic.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 10:05:01 AM
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8682/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg/)

Let's put this the right side up, as it's terrible having to stand on your head to view Thaggies pic of another fake. I think a kid could put a better photo shopped head in that.  ;D

Direction depends on your reference/perspective. Both pictures aren't wrong.
Look at the photoshopped head lol, I mean, let's be honest, I've seen better cartoon heads grafted on to real bodies that look more legit than that.  ;D

It's not photoshopped and it doesn't even look that way. His body isn't even there FYI. The whole point of that picture is because he is in the window.
I can plant a head in as good as that and I'm a novice at it.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Bollybill on March 02, 2013, 10:07:40 AM
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8682/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/800pxexteriorofcupolaex.jpg/)

Let's put this the right side up, as it's terrible having to stand on your head to view Thaggies pic of another fake. I think a kid could put a better photo shopped head in that.  ;D

Direction depends on your reference/perspective. Both pictures aren't wrong.
Look at the photoshopped head lol, I mean, let's be honest, I've seen better cartoon heads grafted on to real bodies that look more legit than that.  ;D

It's not photoshopped and it doesn't even look that way. His body isn't even there FYI. The whole point of that picture is because he is in the window.
I can plant a head in as good as that and I'm a novice at it.

That's not evidence that its photoshopped though. I still don't understand why you think it's been manipulated in the first place.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 10:11:19 AM
stating its fake is not evidence for it being fake its a statement of opinion. and what happened to your vacation?

hear are 3 more photos
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&sa=N&biw=1066&bih=504&tbm=isch&tbnid=TSp4KPZCjvlMuM:&imgrefurl=http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-130/html/iss022e068723.html&docid=PZcSklf9vJvFYM&imgurl=http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-130/hires/iss022e068723.jpg&w=4256&h=2913&ei=0UAyUbmwAaeW0QWQ64HgCQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:23,s:0,i:157&iact=rc&dur=266&sig=103663653482576162152&page=3&tbnh=186&tbnw=271&start=20&ndsp=12&tx=119&ty=56 (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&sa=N&biw=1066&bih=504&tbm=isch&tbnid=TSp4KPZCjvlMuM:&imgrefurl=http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-130/html/iss022e068723.html&docid=PZcSklf9vJvFYM&imgurl=http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-130/hires/iss022e068723.jpg&w=4256&h=2913&ei=0UAyUbmwAaeW0QWQ64HgCQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:23,s:0,i:157&iact=rc&dur=266&sig=103663653482576162152&page=3&tbnh=186&tbnw=271&start=20&ndsp=12&tx=119&ty=56)

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&sa=N&biw=1066&bih=504&tbm=isch&tbnid=AwatoBpIhfUwGM:&imgrefurl=http://meridianes.org/2011/07/19/la-terre-vue-de-la-coupole-de-lisss/&docid=cXYdiQ7IGsZ58M&imgurl=http://meridianes.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/iss023e037182.jpg&w=4256&h=2913&ei=0UAyUbmwAaeW0QWQ64HgCQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:44,s:0,i:220&iact=rc&dur=229&sig=103663653482576162152&page=5&tbnh=186&tbnw=265&start=44&ndsp=12&tx=144&ty=93 (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&sa=N&biw=1066&bih=504&tbm=isch&tbnid=AwatoBpIhfUwGM:&imgrefurl=http://meridianes.org/2011/07/19/la-terre-vue-de-la-coupole-de-lisss/&docid=cXYdiQ7IGsZ58M&imgurl=http://meridianes.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/iss023e037182.jpg&w=4256&h=2913&ei=0UAyUbmwAaeW0QWQ64HgCQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:44,s:0,i:220&iact=rc&dur=229&sig=103663653482576162152&page=5&tbnh=186&tbnw=265&start=44&ndsp=12&tx=144&ty=93)

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&sa=N&biw=1066&bih=504&tbm=isch&tbnid=-zoTLhp24mARAM:&imgrefurl=http://astrobob.areavoices.com/2011/10/04/look-to-the-sky-to-see-chinas-heavenly-palace/&docid=aUQxtN8_H5OZXM&imgurl=http://astrobob.areavoices.com/files/2011/10/ISS-cupola-window-gazing-400x300.jpg&w=400&h=300&ei=0UAyUbmwAaeW0QWQ64HgCQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:47,s:0,i:229&iact=rc&dur=1785&sig=103663653482576162152&page=5&tbnh=186&tbnw=238&start=44&ndsp=12&tx=73&ty=62 (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&sa=N&biw=1066&bih=504&tbm=isch&tbnid=-zoTLhp24mARAM:&imgrefurl=http://astrobob.areavoices.com/2011/10/04/look-to-the-sky-to-see-chinas-heavenly-palace/&docid=aUQxtN8_H5OZXM&imgurl=http://astrobob.areavoices.com/files/2011/10/ISS-cupola-window-gazing-400x300.jpg&w=400&h=300&ei=0UAyUbmwAaeW0QWQ64HgCQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:47,s:0,i:229&iact=rc&dur=1785&sig=103663653482576162152&page=5&tbnh=186&tbnw=238&start=44&ndsp=12&tx=73&ty=62)


i suppose that these are all fakes as well but you wont give us any reason or evidence to prove it.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Saddam Hussein on March 02, 2013, 11:13:41 AM
I think we've already had this discussion:

Pythagoras, you're missing a subtle but key difference. We, nor anyone, can spot a flawlessly photoshopped image, but it's not the photoshopping that we notice that makes us believe its fake, it's the content. If you saw a flawlessly photoshopped image of a man sitting at his desk in a pool of lava, would assume its real because no one could spot a single photoshop error? Of course not, you would think its photoshopped because of the content.

In short, us not being able to spot a technical error in an image does not prove that the image is real.  It only proves that we can't spot any technical errors in it.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 12:20:26 PM
I think just about everyone can see the pictures are fakes but those that hang on to the told space theme I suppose will refuse to allow themselves to believe they're faked, which is fair enough I suppose.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 12:22:35 PM
fair point sadam but im not the one asking if this photo is a fake im just anserwing by saying no.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 12:25:57 PM
fair point sadam but im not the one asking if this photo is a fake im just anserwing by saying no.
If Donald duck was looking out of that window and it was from an official source that told you Disney characters were being given a tour of the space station as a reward for all their hard work in bringing children joy for all these years, you would not see any fakery in the picture.  ;)
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 12:27:30 PM
I think just about everyone can see the pictures are fakes but those that hang on to the told space theme I suppose will refuse to allow themselves to believe they're faked, which is fair enough I suppose.

and sceptic once again you comment is nothing but opinion unfounded in statistical evidence or popular culture. maby if you could do a broad survey from different sections of society asking if they believe space flight is a hoax and get back to us we could have something to discus. somehow i doubt you will do that.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 12:28:39 PM
fair point sadam but im not the one asking if this photo is a fake im just anserwing by saying no.
If Donald duck was looking out of that window and it was from an official source that told you Disney characters were being given a tour of the space station as a reward for all their hard work in bringing children joy for all these years, you would not see any fakery in the picture.  ;)

but it isnt a duck its a person so you point is irrelevant at best.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Saddam Hussein on March 02, 2013, 12:29:09 PM
fair point sadam but im not the one asking if this photo is a fake im just anserwing by saying no.

Well, your name was only part of that quote.  I wasn't specifically aiming it at you.  It just seemed like that was the direction this thread was going.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 12:30:32 PM
i think its the only way a thread based on a photo can go.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Thork on March 02, 2013, 12:31:14 PM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2r7ugyr.jpg)

Is this fake?
It depends. Is she flying a tie interceptor?

(http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/dvd/ep4/tie-v1.jpg)
She's stood by the little window at the front, right?

Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 12:40:04 PM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2r7ugyr.jpg)

Is this fake?
It depends. Is she flying a tie interceptor?

(http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/dvd/ep4/tie-v1.jpg)
She's stood by the little window at the front, right?
Yes that's her. Damn it.  ;D
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Rama Set on March 02, 2013, 03:04:47 PM
Nah more like this...

(http://www.ditl.org/internals/GRecTenForward3.jpg)
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: DDDDAts all folks on March 02, 2013, 03:38:17 PM
Hmmm... I wonder why she's leaning on her elbow when she's weightless.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Thork on March 02, 2013, 03:40:42 PM
Hmmm... I wonder why she's leaning on her elbow when she's weightless.
That's a good question. Why is she resting her head on her hand? Surely it wouldn't be any more comfortable as her head doesn't weigh anything. Stupid NASA.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 03:41:16 PM
Hmmm... I wonder why she's leaning on her elbow when she's weightless.
A very good point.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 03:43:52 PM
Well. I think DDDDAts all folks has just put to bed the whole charade. Get out of this one free Thaggy shill.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Thork on March 02, 2013, 03:47:37 PM
Ahhh, a quick google. Here is the same astronaut. Does the window in the background look familiar?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8a8ile3B11rn3qjbo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 03:51:44 PM
I don't know why she is laying like that but the fact that you can see space underneath her in the photos show that her body isn't in contact with the floor. Her back is against the side windows and her elbow looks like one of the only things in contact with the bottom of the module.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 03:53:30 PM
Ahhh, a quick google. Here is the same astronaut. Does the window in the background look familiar?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8a8ile3B11rn3qjbo1_500.jpg)

Yes it looks like a model of the module. Well done all iss modules have mock ups on earth. Clever thork.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Thork on March 02, 2013, 03:53:48 PM
(http://www.kaibabjournal.com/rf_photos/2008_05_06_shuttle_launch_cocoa/2008_06_02_ksc_161.jpg)

And that's the simulator where they do all the imaging.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 03:53:51 PM
I don't know why she is laying like that but the fact that you can see space underneath her in the photos show that her body isn't in contact with the floor. Her back is against the side windows and her elbow looks like one of the only things in contact with the bottom of the module.
Give it up man, it's busted.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 03:55:16 PM
(http://www.kaibabjournal.com/rf_photos/2008_05_06_shuttle_launch_cocoa/2008_06_02_ksc_161.jpg)

And that's the simulator where they do all the imaging.
Well, I think this just about nails it.

Thaggy: Don't be asking for a pay rise. Nice one Thork.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 03:55:33 PM
(http://www.kaibabjournal.com/rf_photos/2008_05_06_shuttle_launch_cocoa/2008_06_02_ksc_161.jpg)

And that's the simulator where they do all the imaging.

That's the module bieng prepared for launch. Again clever thork you found a photo.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Thork on March 02, 2013, 03:56:12 PM
Is this a launch module? Or another simulator?

(http://blogs.esa.int/astronauts/files/2012/04/photo.jpg)
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 03:57:55 PM
Yes well done now you have a photo of a simulator. I know most of what you post is complete nonsense thork but this is quite retarded even for you.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Thork on March 02, 2013, 03:58:25 PM
NASA hoaxes are so cheap these days. You can see how devastating the slashing of their budget has been.

(http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/images/content/544645main_dmt_02_226x170.jpg)
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 04:00:22 PM
Why are you posting pictures of simulators to prove its a hoax? ??? It's common knowledge NASA has sims on earth. And we'll done you have found pictures of them.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 04:00:23 PM
(http://www.kaibabjournal.com/rf_photos/2008_05_06_shuttle_launch_cocoa/2008_06_02_ksc_161.jpg)

And that's the simulator where they do all the imaging.

That's the module bieng prepared for launch. Again clever thork you found a photo.
The module being prepared for launch.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 04:01:31 PM
(http://www.kaibabjournal.com/rf_photos/2008_05_06_shuttle_launch_cocoa/2008_06_02_ksc_161.jpg)

And that's the simulator where they do all the imaging.

That's the module bieng prepared for launch. Again clever thork you found a photo.
The module being prepared for launch.  ;D ;D ;D


Yes well done. Things have to be prepared before launch and this is a picture of it happening. You point?
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sevenhills on March 02, 2013, 04:01:43 PM
Is this the ISS you can see in the night sky?
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 04:02:23 PM
A part of it yes.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sevenhills on March 02, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
you would think that sometihng you can actually see from earth would be kind of beyond doubt.......oh, wait, Conspiracy!
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Thork on March 02, 2013, 04:04:02 PM
(http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/images/content/544645main_dmt_02_226x170.jpg)

Is this the ISS you can see in the night sky?
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 02, 2013, 04:06:15 PM
(http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/images/content/544645main_dmt_02_226x170.jpg)

Is this the ISS you can see in the night sky?

No wonder you have such trouble understanding space travle if this is what you think the iss is. How educated are you again?
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Thork on March 02, 2013, 04:12:50 PM
So how can you categorically say the first picture is part of the ISS and not a simulator, and the second is a simulator and not the ISS? A bit of foil and a man with a hairnet is all that's needed to convince you it must be a real space station? Wow, NASA have an easy job.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Thork on March 02, 2013, 04:22:24 PM
He went offline.

Is that a temper tantrum?
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 02, 2013, 04:23:50 PM
He went offline.

Is that a temper tantrum?
No, it's a case of , he was nailed to the fence and has to sift through stuff he hasn't been briefed on.
The man is a shill, I knew it from earlier in and is why I played the games I did with him.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: markjo on March 02, 2013, 04:59:59 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3611/3338614891_bbf47db5db.jpg)
Oh look, a Boeing 787 simulator.  Obviously airline travel is fake too. ::)
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Thork on March 02, 2013, 05:04:26 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3611/3338614891_bbf47db5db.jpg)
Oh look, a Boeing 787 simulator.  Obviously airline travel is fake too. ::)
Oh, at last. Its about time you joined the flat side. I'll look forward to your first OP. Congratulations. We'll have a coming out party for you.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Rama Set on March 02, 2013, 05:36:59 PM
Hmmm... I wonder why she's leaning on her elbow when she's weightless.

She's posing for a picture. People do all sorts of crazy things when doing so. Stop the confirmation bias.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 03, 2013, 02:44:26 AM
I went to bed. It was quarter past midnight. And second picture I'm not sure what picture you are referring to. I can tell what pictures are of simulators and which ones aren't because I'm not biased towards desperay thinking the world is flat so can look at pictures objectively.

And the picture of the module in preparation for launch what else would it be? It's the wrong way up for starters for your picture to have been taken if it was taken on earth.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on March 03, 2013, 03:34:14 AM
(http://www.kaibabjournal.com/rf_photos/2008_05_06_shuttle_launch_cocoa/2008_06_02_ksc_161.jpg)

And that's the simulator where they do all the imaging.

That's the module bieng prepared for launch. Again clever thork you found a photo.
The module being prepared for launch.  ;D ;D ;D


Yes well done. Things have to be prepared before launch and this is a picture of it happening. You point?

If this is a "simulator" then it does away with the need to photoshop people into pictures, as there is a physical set they can stand in and be photographed in, right? Some people here are obsessed with computer manipulation being the only way to fake photographs.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: DDDDAts all folks on March 03, 2013, 06:21:17 AM
Hmmm... I wonder why she's leaning on her elbow when she's weightless.

She's posing for a picture. People do all sorts of crazy things when doing so. Stop the confirmation bias.

This amused me. You've just accused me of confirmation bias when the part of your post highlighted in bold wreaks of it.

I don't know if that picture's fake or not; it probably isn't, I dunno, however I'm not going to apply 'confirmation bias' by saying she's posing.

All I've said is that it appears she's leaning on her elbow in a supposed weightless environment.

She may be posing for a picture, but without applying some kind of confirmation bias (i.e. that the picture was taken in space) I can't be sure of that and neither can you.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Rama Set on March 03, 2013, 01:45:59 PM
Hmmm... I wonder why she's leaning on her elbow when she's weightless.

She's posing for a picture. People do all sorts of crazy things when doing so. Stop the confirmation bias.

This amused me. You've just accused me of confirmation bias when the part of your post highlighted in bold wreaks of it.

I don't know if that picture's fake or not; it probably isn't, I dunno, however I'm not going to apply 'confirmation bias' by saying she's posing.

All I've said is that it appears she's leaning on her elbow in a supposed weightless environment.

She may be posing for a picture, but without applying some kind of confirmation bias (i.e. that the picture was taken in space) I can't be sure of that and neither can you.

I know you cant be sure. All I am saying is that this is far from concluding a conspiracy or a flat earth. That there is another, extremely plausible explanation other than "This photo is not in space" was being used to illustrate that. Forgive for assuming a my conclusion was understood and let me state is clearly now: To say this photo is conclusive proof anything regarding the reality of space travel or the shape of the earth is preposterous.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: bgamelson on March 03, 2013, 07:42:01 PM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.

OK, so let's see...her ear and neck look odd, her body shape is not what it should be, she really doesn't have neck creases in real life and she is looking into space when she should be looking at earth.  I guess you proved it to us all.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Dog on March 03, 2013, 10:53:00 PM
Dear god i'm crying.

"It looks like she might be leaning on her elbow"

Scepi: "That's it boys pack it up nothing to see here! Thaggy isn't getting a pay-raise! And space travel which has been observed, documented, and put into practice from hell and back has just been discounted! Woo!"

That simulator picture must have been ecstasy for him.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: FlatOrange on March 03, 2013, 11:24:03 PM
Here's more for sceptimatic's entertainment.

Real: (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/5197444166_b60e71306c_b.jpg)


Fake: (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QlEsF2C5xZc/USvq_Se9N3I/AAAAAAAADMs/BUk5J4OsYSE/s800/OrbitingMars01-signe2000.jpg)
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Saddam Hussein on March 04, 2013, 05:53:11 AM
Incorrect, they are both fake.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on March 04, 2013, 06:48:01 AM
Incorrect, they are both fake.

The top one might be real as we have seen there is a machine they can stand in and be photographed. Hang up a black background, and you can take a photo with no doctoring required - hence the photo is not fake, but your assumptions about it are misled.
However I believe space flight is real.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: 29silhouette on March 04, 2013, 11:22:54 AM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.
Looks real to me

Head tilted and turned slightly to cause creases in skin.  So what.

She's probably looking at the other edge of the earth, or just posing.  Yay. 

Resting on her elbow?  It's certainly against something and bent in a way to look like that, but look at the rest of her.   Looks like she's floating, including her hair.

I see pixel issues everywhere.  Congratulations, you found issues with compressing a high-def image down to 960x638 49kb.

Here's the original 4288x2848 image.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg)

Well Thaggy: maybe my scrutinisation skills aren't up to it but I see no stitching whatsoever in that picture .
So do you have selective image scrutinizing skills based on the image content, or do you have any image scrutinizing skills at all?
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 04, 2013, 11:29:55 AM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.
Looks real to me

Head tilted and turned slightly to cause creases in skin.  So what.

She's probably looking at the other edge of the earth, or just posing.  Yay. 

Resting on her elbow?  It's certainly against something and bent in a way to look like that, but look at the rest of her.   Looks like she's floating, including her hair.

I see pixel issues everywhere.  Congratulations, you found issues with compressing a high-def image down to 960x638 49kb.

Here's the original 4288x2848 image.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg)

Well Thaggy: maybe my scrutinisation skills aren't up to it but I see no stitching whatsoever in that picture .
So do you have selective image scrutinizing skills based on the image content, or do you have any image scrutinizing skills at all?
The image is 100% fake. You know it, I know it and most people with eyes know it.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Foxy on March 04, 2013, 11:38:42 AM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.
Looks real to me

Head tilted and turned slightly to cause creases in skin.  So what.

She's probably looking at the other edge of the earth, or just posing.  Yay. 

Resting on her elbow?  It's certainly against something and bent in a way to look like that, but look at the rest of her.   Looks like she's floating, including her hair.

I see pixel issues everywhere.  Congratulations, you found issues with compressing a high-def image down to 960x638 49kb.

Here's the original 4288x2848 image.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg)

Well Thaggy: maybe my scrutinisation skills aren't up to it but I see no stitching whatsoever in that picture .
So do you have selective image scrutinizing skills based on the image content, or do you have any image scrutinizing skills at all?
The image is 100% fake. You know it, I know it and most people with eyes know it.

I don't "know it." Please show me.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Dog on March 04, 2013, 11:40:29 AM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.
Looks real to me

Head tilted and turned slightly to cause creases in skin.  So what.

She's probably looking at the other edge of the earth, or just posing.  Yay. 

Resting on her elbow?  It's certainly against something and bent in a way to look like that, but look at the rest of her.   Looks like she's floating, including her hair.

I see pixel issues everywhere.  Congratulations, you found issues with compressing a high-def image down to 960x638 49kb.

Here's the original 4288x2848 image.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg)

Well Thaggy: maybe my scrutinisation skills aren't up to it but I see no stitching whatsoever in that picture .
So do you have selective image scrutinizing skills based on the image content, or do you have any image scrutinizing skills at all?
The image is 100% fake. You know it, I know it and most people with eyes know it.

You've just given up haven't you. I mean you've never been credible or fact-driven in the first place, but stating that you're now a mind reader and you need no further evidence........ really?
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 04, 2013, 12:16:56 PM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.
Looks real to me

Head tilted and turned slightly to cause creases in skin.  So what.

She's probably looking at the other edge of the earth, or just posing.  Yay. 

Resting on her elbow?  It's certainly against something and bent in a way to look like that, but look at the rest of her.   Looks like she's floating, including her hair.

I see pixel issues everywhere.  Congratulations, you found issues with compressing a high-def image down to 960x638 49kb.

Here's the original 4288x2848 image.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg)

Well Thaggy: maybe my scrutinisation skills aren't up to it but I see no stitching whatsoever in that picture .
So do you have selective image scrutinizing skills based on the image content, or do you have any image scrutinizing skills at all?
The image is 100% fake. You know it, I know it and most people with eyes know it.

I don't "know it." Please show me.
Enlarge the image.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Foxy on March 04, 2013, 12:24:16 PM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.
Looks real to me

Head tilted and turned slightly to cause creases in skin.  So what.

She's probably looking at the other edge of the earth, or just posing.  Yay. 

Resting on her elbow?  It's certainly against something and bent in a way to look like that, but look at the rest of her.   Looks like she's floating, including her hair.

I see pixel issues everywhere.  Congratulations, you found issues with compressing a high-def image down to 960x638 49kb.

Here's the original 4288x2848 image.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg)

Well Thaggy: maybe my scrutinisation skills aren't up to it but I see no stitching whatsoever in that picture .
So do you have selective image scrutinizing skills based on the image content, or do you have any image scrutinizing skills at all?
The image is 100% fake. You know it, I know it and most people with eyes know it.

I don't "know it." Please show me.
Enlarge the image.

I have many times. Please go on.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: sceptimatic on March 04, 2013, 12:31:21 PM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.
Looks real to me

Head tilted and turned slightly to cause creases in skin.  So what.

She's probably looking at the other edge of the earth, or just posing.  Yay. 

Resting on her elbow?  It's certainly against something and bent in a way to look like that, but look at the rest of her.   Looks like she's floating, including her hair.

I see pixel issues everywhere.  Congratulations, you found issues with compressing a high-def image down to 960x638 49kb.

Here's the original 4288x2848 image.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg)

Well Thaggy: maybe my scrutinisation skills aren't up to it but I see no stitching whatsoever in that picture .
So do you have selective image scrutinizing skills based on the image content, or do you have any image scrutinizing skills at all?
The image is 100% fake. You know it, I know it and most people with eyes know it.

I don't "know it." Please show me.
Enlarge the image.

I have many times. Please go on.
You don't see anything wrong?
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Foxy on March 04, 2013, 12:38:44 PM
It's 100% fake.
Take a look at her ear and her neck. Look at the way she is looking and her body shape. There should not be neck creases like that but if you look closely for instance, zoom in a little bit, you will see that her ear has been manipulated, not to mention the pixels  around her arm.
Look at her line of sight as well, she's not looking at earth, she is looking into space when you consider that you can see a circle of earth through her right side.

It's fake just like all the rest of them.
Looks real to me

Head tilted and turned slightly to cause creases in skin.  So what.

She's probably looking at the other edge of the earth, or just posing.  Yay. 

Resting on her elbow?  It's certainly against something and bent in a way to look like that, but look at the rest of her.   Looks like she's floating, including her hair.

I see pixel issues everywhere.  Congratulations, you found issues with compressing a high-def image down to 960x638 49kb.

Here's the original 4288x2848 image.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-24/hires/iss024e014263.jpg)

Well Thaggy: maybe my scrutinisation skills aren't up to it but I see no stitching whatsoever in that picture .
So do you have selective image scrutinizing skills based on the image content, or do you have any image scrutinizing skills at all?
The image is 100% fake. You know it, I know it and most people with eyes know it.

I don't "know it." Please show me.
Enlarge the image.

I have many times. Please go on.
You don't see anything wrong?

Nothing that tells me the photograph has been faked.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Dog on March 04, 2013, 04:46:03 PM
I enlarged it. I saw pixels. Anything else?
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: robertotrevor on March 04, 2013, 05:26:26 PM
I enlarged it. I saw pixels. Anything else?

If you look closely. those pixels are fake. you know it.
Title: Re: Nice picture taken from a spaceship-
Post by: Pythagoras on March 04, 2013, 07:00:21 PM
we have proven many times that sceptic is no expert in spotting faked photos so i don't think we will begin now.