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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth General => Topic started by: halo4able on February 27, 2013, 06:21:52 AM

Title: Whats the motive
Post by: halo4able on February 27, 2013, 06:21:52 AM
What would be the point in deceiving the human race by telling them that the earth is spherical

whats the point?
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Saddam Hussein on February 27, 2013, 09:22:01 AM
We have an FAQ that explains this, and the search feature will reveal dozens of threads that have elaborated on it.
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Tom Bishop on February 27, 2013, 10:51:11 AM
http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Motive_of_the_Conspiracy (http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Motive_of_the_Conspiracy)
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: bgamelson on February 27, 2013, 11:37:34 AM
http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Motive_of_the_Conspiracy (http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Motive_of_the_Conspiracy)

Interesting theory with no supportive evidence.
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Tom Bishop on February 27, 2013, 11:14:43 PM
http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Motive_of_the_Conspiracy (http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Motive_of_the_Conspiracy)

Interesting theory with no supportive evidence.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Conspiracy (http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Conspiracy)
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Sytruan on February 28, 2013, 05:40:53 AM
Considering the wiki also uses ISS pictures to state that "The Earth is an Egg (http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Earth_is_an_Egg)" (which is technically about as correct saying the earth is a straight-up sphere - it's technically an "oblate spheroid"), I wouldn't say that it's the best information. In fact, I'd say that it's not a very good source at all. For faked space flight, using pictures in a page like that seems to be a contradiction.
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Tom Bishop on February 28, 2013, 09:42:49 AM
RET's oblate spheroid != egg

Conventional RET states that the earth is a near perfect sphere with slightly flattened north and south poles. It isn't advertised that we live on an egg.
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: bgamelson on February 28, 2013, 09:52:00 AM
http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Motive_of_the_Conspiracy (http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Motive_of_the_Conspiracy)

Interesting theory with no supportive evidence.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Conspiracy (http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Conspiracy)

A single posting from  this crazy blog constitutes zero evidence.  Try again.
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: bgamelson on February 28, 2013, 09:52:57 AM
RET's oblate spheroid != egg

Conventional RET states that the earth is a near perfect sphere with slightly flattened north and south poles. It isn't advertised that we live on an egg.

Keep your head buried in the sand.
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: halo4able on February 28, 2013, 01:12:40 PM
Why doesn't NASA just tell the world that the earth is flat
why would they hide it?

The FAQ does not answer this
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Sytruan on February 28, 2013, 01:26:54 PM
RET's oblate spheroid != egg

Conventional RET states that the earth is a near perfect sphere with slightly flattened north and south poles. It isn't advertised that we live on an egg.

Of course it's not advertised that we live on an egg. I'm sorry, this time I'll leave it out of parentheses. Calling the earth an egg is "technically about as correct saying the earth is a straight-up sphere - it's technically an oblate spheroid". I never stated that we do live on an egg, nor that it is the shape of the earth.

There was more to my post which I'll quote, in case you're interested in taking a position against that. Since I won't use parentheses anymore in the interest of not having parts of my post skimmed over, I'll also say that no, I am not quoting it exactly. I'm leaving out the parts that you addressed and editing a bit so that my statements are more clear.

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Considering the wiki also uses ISS pictures to state that "The Earth is an Egg", I wouldn't say that it's the best information. In fact, I'd say that it's not a very good source at all. For a wiki that claims conspiracy theories and "the scientific community is bonkers when it comes to our beliefs but nothing else" (similar to religion), using pictures from the ISS in a page on the wiki seems to be a contradiction.

Why would there be a page seemingly claiming that the earth is egg-shaped using pictures from the ISS as "evidence" while simultaneously claiming that the ISS and all space flight is an elaborate hoax run by all 7 space programs with extraterrestrial probes?
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Saddam Hussein on February 28, 2013, 02:01:58 PM
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Considering the wiki also uses ISS pictures to state that "The Earth is an Egg", I wouldn't say that it's the best information. In fact, I'd say that it's not a very good source at all. For a wiki that claims conspiracy theories and "the scientific community is bonkers when it comes to our beliefs but nothing else" (similar to religion), using pictures from the ISS in a page on the wiki seems to be a contradiction.

Why would there be a page seemingly claiming that the earth is egg-shaped using pictures from the ISS as "evidence" while simultaneously claiming that the ISS and all space flight is an elaborate hoax run by all 7 space programs with extraterrestrial probes?

We're not literally claiming that the Earth is egg-shaped.  The purpose of that article is to criticize the evidence for RET supposedly offered by those photographs, and the title is just an attempt to add some humor.

Why doesn't NASA just tell the world that the earth is flat
why would they hide it?

The FAQ does not answer this

They don't know that the Earth is flat because they haven't been to space, and they haven't been to space because they're keeping the money for themselves.  The FAQ apparently needs some revision.
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Pythagoras on February 28, 2013, 02:07:33 PM
Themselves? Who is them? Or they? That's all we hear, they tell us this or its them who tells us that. How many people does all this money get divided  by?
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Saddam Hussein on February 28, 2013, 02:38:27 PM
A select few from the involved space agencies.  I don't know the exact numbers.
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: halo4able on February 28, 2013, 02:50:54 PM
What about satellites?

They can show 24 hours of video recordings
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Sytruan on February 28, 2013, 05:22:04 PM
We're not literally claiming that the Earth is egg-shaped.  The purpose of that article is to criticize the evidence for RET supposedly offered by those photographs, and the title is just an attempt to add some humor.
There isn't any particular article in there. It's a title with some pictures of the earth showing curvature. Hence the reason for my using the word "page" instead of "article".

They don't know that the Earth is flat because they haven't been to space, and they haven't been to space because they're keeping the money for themselves.  The FAQ apparently needs some revision.
The FAQ and wiki do indeed need some revision, as many people come in with questions based on that FAQ and then are told their questions are already asked frequently. For a "Frequently-Asked-Questions" page, it doesn't do a very good job of answering them. The wiki isn't much better in providing logic-based and clear answers. Many people on this forum openly disagree with parts of the wiki pages (as FE-ers) and have chastised people. Perhaps it can be edited to acknowledge the dissent among the ranks of FE-ers as well as noting that they are not definitive on the subject, are constantly changed, and are frequently not worked out fully or even much at all. I'm not saying this because I'm a RE-er, but based on the constant contradictions in what FE-ers have said on this forum. I'm sure you're aware of them.
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on February 28, 2013, 07:26:46 PM
Moved.  Conspiracy topics go in FE General.
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: FlatOrange on March 01, 2013, 03:48:21 PM
Tom, 2 out of 3 of those pictures are arcs of a perfect circle.  I thought you agreed and edited the page.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,55745.msg1390510.html#msg1390510 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,55745.msg1390510.html#msg1390510)
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: markjo on March 01, 2013, 04:44:22 PM
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Considering the wiki also uses ISS pictures to state that "The Earth is an Egg", I wouldn't say that it's the best information. In fact, I'd say that it's not a very good source at all. For a wiki that claims conspiracy theories and "the scientific community is bonkers when it comes to our beliefs but nothing else" (similar to religion), using pictures from the ISS in a page on the wiki seems to be a contradiction.

Why would there be a page seemingly claiming that the earth is egg-shaped using pictures from the ISS as "evidence" while simultaneously claiming that the ISS and all space flight is an elaborate hoax run by all 7 space programs with extraterrestrial probes?

We're not literally claiming that the Earth is egg-shaped.  The purpose of that article is to criticize the evidence for RET supposedly offered by those photographs, and the title is just an attempt to add some humor.

Appeal to ridicule is a fallacy and does not belong in the wiki.
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: 29silhouette on March 01, 2013, 07:08:24 PM
Yes sir, cover ups of all kinds.  Proof right here.
Secret black NASA (http://#noexternalembed)
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Tausami on March 01, 2013, 10:15:55 PM
We're not literally claiming that the Earth is egg-shaped.  The purpose of that article is to criticize the evidence for RET supposedly offered by those photographs, and the title is just an attempt to add some humor.
There isn't any particular article in there. It's a title with some pictures of the earth showing curvature. Hence the reason for my using the word "page" instead of "article".

They don't know that the Earth is flat because they haven't been to space, and they haven't been to space because they're keeping the money for themselves.  The FAQ apparently needs some revision.
The FAQ and wiki do indeed need some revision, as many people come in with questions based on that FAQ and then are told their questions are already asked frequently. For a "Frequently-Asked-Questions" page, it doesn't do a very good job of answering them. The wiki isn't much better in providing logic-based and clear answers. Many people on this forum openly disagree with parts of the wiki pages (as FE-ers) and have chastised people. Perhaps it can be edited to acknowledge the dissent among the ranks of FE-ers as well as noting that they are not definitive on the subject, are constantly changed, and are frequently not worked out fully or even much at all. I'm not saying this because I'm a RE-er, but based on the constant contradictions in what FE-ers have said on this forum. I'm sure you're aware of them.

As head editor, I'm open to suggestions for further questions to add to the FAQ
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Megaman on March 01, 2013, 11:46:32 PM
We're not literally claiming that the Earth is egg-shaped.  The purpose of that article is to criticize the evidence for RET supposedly offered by those photographs, and the title is just an attempt to add some humor.
There isn't any particular article in there. It's a title with some pictures of the earth showing curvature. Hence the reason for my using the word "page" instead of "article".

They don't know that the Earth is flat because they haven't been to space, and they haven't been to space because they're keeping the money for themselves.  The FAQ apparently needs some revision.
The FAQ and wiki do indeed need some revision, as many people come in with questions based on that FAQ and then are told their questions are already asked frequently. For a "Frequently-Asked-Questions" page, it doesn't do a very good job of answering them. The wiki isn't much better in providing logic-based and clear answers. Many people on this forum openly disagree with parts of the wiki pages (as FE-ers) and have chastised people. Perhaps it can be edited to acknowledge the dissent among the ranks of FE-ers as well as noting that they are not definitive on the subject, are constantly changed, and are frequently not worked out fully or even much at all. I'm not saying this because I'm a RE-er, but based on the constant contradictions in what FE-ers have said on this forum. I'm sure you're aware of them.

As head editor, I'm open to suggestions for further questions to add to the FAQ

Awesome! I would like to submit the following for your consideration:

1) If the Earth is actually flat, why has no one noticed that the distance between longitude lines continue to increase as you head South past the equator.

2) How does FE explain Foucault pendulums?

3) Are FE believers aware that any curved surface will appear to be flat when viewed in a small enough reference frame and if so, why do they insist on using "Look outside" as evidence?

4) How does FE explain the tides? Rowbotham attempted to do this with a FE model but failed miserably.

5) Can use of the FE model accurately predict celestial events? If it can, why has no FE believer put forth work in this area?

6) If FE believer's claim to base their beliefs on simple observations, why does the "Bendy Light Theory" exist? It's very existence goes against the principals of believing in only that which can be simply observed.





Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Tausami on March 04, 2013, 06:12:47 PM
It's the FAQ, not the Wiki. If those pages don't exist in the Wiki I'll be happy to make them, but the FAQ is meant more as a starting point. The old FAQ answered every question the writers could think of, and it was terrible. It was difficult to read, horribly inaccurate, and too big to fix. We're trying to avoid making the same mistake again. #3 should certainly be expanded upon, though. I'll work on that. #6 might get mentioned, too.
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Rip Riley on March 04, 2013, 08:49:01 PM
6) If FE believer's claim to base their beliefs on simple observations, why does the "Bendy Light Theory" exist? It's very existence goes against the principals of believing in only that which can be simply observed.
I thought bendy light was used in the globe model to explain why we can see things further away than we should. Like the bedford level tests... doesn't round earth explain those by the light bending with the curve of the earth, making everything appear flat? Or am I mistaken.
Title: Re: Whats the motive
Post by: Wolf on March 04, 2013, 10:47:44 PM
7 )   How do constellations work?

8 )   How do auroras work in the southern and northern hemisphere?

9 )   Why does flying around the earth at latitude 45deg south take quicker than flying around the earth at 0deg?

10 ) How do FEers know how far the sun, moon, planets and stars are?

11 ) How does the sun produce enough energy that 9 billion TJ reaches the earth's surface per day?

12 ) Why does a scale model of round earth work, but a scale model of flat earth not?