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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: Genouious on December 13, 2012, 12:53:30 PM
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Simple question, are there many discworlds, or are we special?
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Simple question, are there many discworlds, or are we special?
Statistics say that there are more flat, earthlike objects in space, yes. However, no one has found one yet as they (if they exist) are very, very far away.
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So would it not be a too stranger concept to suggest the existence of extraterrestrial life then?
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I don't think it would.
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Simple question, are there many discworlds, or are we special?
Statistics say that there are more flat, earthlike objects in space, yes. However, no one has found one yet as they (if they exist) are very, very far away.
Can I see the source of these statistics please? Or a link to the research please?
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Hopefully you have access, otherwise you will have to do with the abstract
Studies in the history of probability and statistics. XXI.
On the early history of the law of large numbers (http://biomet.oxfordjournals.org/content/55/3/459.short)
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Hopefully you have access, otherwise you will have to do with the abstract
Studies in the history of probability and statistics. XXI.
On the early history of the law of large numbers (http://biomet.oxfordjournals.org/content/55/3/459.short)
how is this statistics for other disc worlds in a universe? im still waiting for the statistics.
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Hopefully you have access, otherwise you will have to do with the abstract
Studies in the history of probability and statistics. XXI.
On the early history of the law of large numbers (http://biomet.oxfordjournals.org/content/55/3/459.short)
how is this statistics for other disc worlds in a universe? im still waiting for the statistics.
You don't understand big numbers?
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Simple question, are there many discworlds, or are we special?
Statistics say that there are more flat, earthlike objects in space, yes. However, no one has found one yet as they (if they exist) are very, very far away.
you said statistics say their are more disc worlds? now where are your numbers to back this up? i dont need explaining how statistics work. remember that statements like that need evidence to back them up, scientific prof? posting a link describing how statistics work is not the same as showing evidence of how their are statistically more disc worlds out their. so plzzz im still waiting for the statistics.
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Simple question, are there many discworlds, or are we special?
Statistics say that there are more flat, earthlike objects in space, yes. However, no one has found one yet as they (if they exist) are very, very far away.
you said statistics say their are more disc worlds? now where are your numbers to back this up? i dont need explaining how statistics work. remember that statements like that need evidence to back them up, scientific prof? posting a link describing how statistics work is not the same as showing evidence of how their are statistically more disc worlds out their. so plzzz im still waiting for the statistics.
We know there is the flat earth. We also know that the universe is so huge that it might as well be infinitely huge, with an infinite amount of objects in it. The chance that, given an infinite amount of objects, there are more objects which are earth-like in space approaches 1. Read the article.
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Beorn is only quoting the same statistics mathematicians used to identify the amount of civilizations in the universe. I just wanted to see if to believe in flat earth, you had to believe the earth was unique.
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Simple question, are there many discworlds, or are we special?
It has been proposed that there may be other disks below us also accelerating do to UA. On the infinite earth model, there is no reason to think that there aren't other "suns" circling above other areas of the infinite plane as well.
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We know there is the flat earth. We also know that the universe is so huge that it might as well be infinitely huge, with an infinite amount of objects in it. The chance that, given an infinite amount of objects, there are more objects which are earth-like in space approaches 1. Read the article.
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does that mean that in a infinite universe their is a planet called earth that is a globe? ;D
i mean if the universe is infinite with an infinite amount of variations then some where out thier their must be a round earth?
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does that mean that in a infinite universe their is a planet called earth that is a globe? ;D
i mean if the universe is infinite with an infinite amount of variations then some where out thier their must be a round earth?
I wouldn't be earth, because there is only on earth as that is the name we give to this specific flat object we're living on.
And it doesn't work like that. Since we haven't found any round planets with life on them, we can't know if there are any planets in the universe that are round and have life on them. Also, from our experience from earth it would pretty unlikely that the environment on a round planet would ever be favorable for life.
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what about the fact that all the other planets in our solar system are round?
I'm pretty sure most if not all FE people believe planets are spheres.
extract from FET wiki describing plaets as round
http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Planets (http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Planets)
so if our planets is flat and all the others are round then statistically their are far more round planets than disc ones?
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what about the fact that all the other planets in our solar system are round?
The earth is not a planet.
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well depends on your interpretation of the definition of a planet.
but lets stick to statistics. so we have a sol with in flat earth theory, 7 planets ( - Pluto, not a planet) and 1 "disc world"
so statistically planets are far more common than disc worlds. so once again i ask for the research that describes disc worlds as more common? so just post it below when your ready Beorn thanx again
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When did I say that "disc world" is more common?
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okay miss read your post but your post does say statistics say their are more disc worlds but as it stands statistics say their is 1 disc world and that is it. no evidence for any more.
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The earth is not part of the solar system. The solar system is tiny and whirls closely above the earth's enormous mass.
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what about the fact that all the other planets in our solar system are round?
The earth is not a planet.
So you are saying their is only one disc world and no others?
I don't believe that the earth is a disc. The earth is an infinite plane which bisects the universe. There are no others.
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So your stance is that their are no other disc worlds out their?
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The earth is not a disc world.
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We are talking about the world being a discs and the fact that statistics apparently show thier are many more disc worlds out their.
Simple question, are there many discworlds, or are we special?
Statistics say that there are more flat, earthlike objects in space, yes. However, no one has found one yet as they (if they exist) are very, very far away.
Also this post does in fact describe the earth as a disc world.
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Simple question, are there many discworlds, or are we special?
Statistics say that there are more flat, earthlike objects in space, yes. However, no one has found one yet as they (if they exist) are very, very far away.
Jesus Christ man, this is so freeking ridiculous. Disc like objects in space? This goes against all known laws of physics. Look there can only be two possibilities and two realistic models. Either the space is filled with spheres and the earth is a globe or there is no space as we know it, and earth is an infinite plane, with all sky objects serving geocentric purpose. I suscribe to infinite earth theory, the disc with edges is dark ages.
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We are talking about the world being a discs and the fact that statistics apparently show thier are many more disc worlds out their.
Statistics also says that you are an illiterate Chinese laborer. What matters is what you know and see.
Look at your window and decide whether you see an ending or unending earth.
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Wouldn't an infinitely sized disc need an infinite force to drive it, as it would have an infinite mass?
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Wouldn't an infinitely sized disc need an infinite force to drive it, as it would have an infinite mass?
Yes it would and we all know energy isn't infinite. Apart from Tom perhaps?
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We are talking about the world being a discs and the fact that statistics apparently show thier are many more disc worlds out their.
Statistics also says that you are an illiterate Chinese laborer. What matters is what you know and see.
Look at your window and decide whether you see an ending or unending earth.
I think flat earthers need to get their story's straight. Every one seems to have a different idea on shape compisiton size. At less in a round earth everyone belives the same thing.
Oh and we have a map lol ;D
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Looking into it further an infinite force would merely hold the earth stationery or in a constant motion, according to newton's 1st law, ergo any acceleration would be impossible thus the illusion of gravity would not be possible either.
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We are talking about the world being a discs and the fact that statistics apparently show thier are many more disc worlds out their.
Statistics also says that you are an illiterate Chinese laborer. What matters is what you know and see.
Look at your window and decide whether you see an ending or unending earth.
I think flat earthers need to get their story's straight. Every one seems to have a different idea on shape compisiton size. At less in a round earth everyone belives the same thing.
Oh and we have a map lol ;D
Their ideas are not based on observations, evidence or experiments, they just believe whatever they want.
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Wouldn't an infinitely sized disc need an infinite force to drive it, as it would have an infinite mass?
The earth is not an infinite disc, infinite objects have no shape, our known world of seven continents happened to be in a form of a disc, beyond Antarctica (ice wall) the landmasses take all kinds of shapes and sizes.
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Wouldn't an infinitely sized disc need an infinite force to drive it, as it would have an infinite mass?
The earth is not an infinite disc, infinite objects have no shape, our known world of seven continents happened to be in a form of a disc, beyond Antarctica (ice wall) the landmasses take all kinds of shapes and sizes.
Tom just said it was? So who do we believe?
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what about the fact that all the other planets in our solar system are round?
The earth is not a planet.
So you are saying their is only one disc world and no others?
I don't believe that the earth is a disc. The earth is an infinite plane which bisects the universe. There are no others.
Tom saying the earth is infinite, or is he wrong?
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I've directly observed an unending earth. No one on this form can say that they've observed an ending one. The evidence is clearly in my court.
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We are talking about the world being a discs and the fact that statistics apparently show thier are many more disc worlds out their.
Statistics also says that you are an illiterate Chinese laborer. What matters is what you know and see.
Look at your window and decide whether you see an ending or unending earth.
I've directly observed an unending earth. No one on this form can say that they've observed an ending one. The evidence is clearly in my court.
What happended about humans not being able to see infinite? we don't need to remember that now?
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No matter the shape my point still remains valid, if Earth truly was infinite in size all known physics would just cannot apply. Everything we know would simply be completely wrong, even that put forward by the FET.
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I've directly observed an unending earth. No one on this form can say that they've observed an ending one. The evidence is clearly in my court.
I agree. I see an unending earth every day. Because its a globe which complies with all known laws of physics.
Come on tom, you slacking hear. Plzz show us evidence of the infinite energy sorce pushing up the infinite earth, I promise to believe you if you do lol
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I've directly observed an unending earth. No one on this form can say that they've observed an ending one. The evidence is clearly in my court.
I thought you said that man cannot perceive to infinity. Or are more than a man?
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What happended about humans not being able to see infinite? we don't need to remember that now?
I didn't say that I saw infinitely. I said that I saw an earth which did not end.
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Wouldn't an infinitely sized disc need an infinite force to drive it, as it would have an infinite mass?
The earth is not an infinite disc, infinite objects have no shape, our known world of seven continents happened to be in a form of a disc, beyond Antarctica (ice wall) the landmasses take all kinds of shapes and sizes.
Tom just said it was? So who do we believe?
That is entirely up to you. My gut says you will not believe any of us so it's a fiercely academic question.
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Wouldn't an infinitely sized disc need an infinite force to drive it, as it would have an infinite mass?
The earth is not an infinite disc, infinite objects have no shape, our known world of seven continents happened to be in a form of a disc, beyond Antarctica (ice wall) the landmasses take all kinds of shapes and sizes.
Tom just said it was? So who do we believe?
That is entirely up to you. My gut says you will not believe any of us so it's a fiercely academic question.
What I'm getting at is if none of the flat earthers can agree on a simple principle like the size if the earth then how can we believe anything they say?
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What happended about humans not being able to see infinite? we don't need to remember that now?
I didn't say that I saw infinitely. I said that I saw an earth which did not end.
But because we can't see to the infinite, that is irrelevant, all you see, is what your eyes allow you to, there could be anything beyond what you can see.
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Wouldn't an infinitely sized disc need an infinite force to drive it, as it would have an infinite mass?
The earth is not an infinite disc, infinite objects have no shape, our known world of seven continents happened to be in a form of a disc, beyond Antarctica (ice wall) the landmasses take all kinds of shapes and sizes.
Tom just said it was? So who do we believe?
That is entirely up to you. My gut says you will not believe any of us so it's a fiercely academic question.
What I'm getting at is if none of the flat earthers can agree on a simple principle like the size if the earth then how can we believe anything they say?
And what I was getting at was that even if we fully agreed on every single principle of FET it would not make a whit of difference as to whether you believed us or not.
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Well it might help. Atleast round earthers can agree on the shape of the earth
Also a map might help lol
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Well it might help. Atleast round earthers can agree on the shape of the earth
Well, sure, you have all that dogma to go by.
Also a map might help lol
You haven't seen our maps? ???
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What happended about humans not being able to see infinite? we don't need to remember that now?
I didn't say that I saw infinitely. I said that I saw an earth which did not end.
But because we can't see to the infinite, that is irrelevant, all you see, is what your eyes allow you to, there could be anything beyond what you can see.
My eyes saw an earth which appeared unending. I did not see an end. I can only say that the earth seems to extend indefinitely into the distance.
Until there is direct evidence that the earth does end, an unending earth must stand as the prevailing theory.
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Well it might help. Atleast round earthers can agree on the shape of the earth
Well, sure, you have all that dogma to go by.
Also a map might help lol
You haven't seen our maps? ???
No i havnt. Iv seen our maps projected into a disc earth model which completely distorts the Southern Hemisphere. Or the informes wilmors ( or what ever his name is) map which makes even less sense. So my point stands I would love to see an actual flat earth map.
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Round earthers aren't the best at agreeing, ever heard of the hollow earth theory? Kinda makes whether or not there is unanimous agreement a moot point...
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My eyes saw an earth which appeared unending. I did not see an end. I can only say that the earth seems to extend indefinitely into the distance.
Until there is direct evidence that the earth does end, an unending earth must stand as the prevailing theory.
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Their is plenty of evidence the earth is a globe! You just chose to ignore it. That's not our fault.
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Well it might help. Atleast round earthers can agree on the shape of the earth
Well, sure, you have all that dogma to go by.
Also a map might help lol
You haven't seen our maps? ???
No i havnt. Iv seen our maps projected into a disc earth model which completely distorts the Southern Hemisphere.
So what? You won't be happy until we've personally surveyed every inch of the Earth and mapped it out for ourselves? I have to say, that could take a pretty long time, and nobody seems to have to resources for it right now. :(
At any rate, it's not the FE map that distorts the southern hemiplane. That map shows the Earth as it truly is. It's the RE map that distorts the southern hemiplane, the better to fit it onto your ridiculous conception of the Earth as a whirling ball.
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Round earth socioty had mapped all of the earth in some detail and the vast majority of it in great detail. So I don't see that as unreasonable. It's not my fault you guys cannot be bothers to actualy try map the earth like we have with great succes. Try navigating using a round earth map in the Southern Hemisphere then do the same trip using a flat earth map. See if you mange.
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Try navigating using a round earth map in the Southern Hemisphere then do the same trip using a flat earth map. See if you mange.
Why do you think it would be any different?
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Is anyone going to attempt to answer my original question, or are we going to argue in futility?
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Is anyone going to attempt to answer my original question, or are we going to argue in futility?
But multiple people have answered your original question. Did you read the thread?
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Sorry, I meant my next question. Been writing an essay on Titan and every third statement is pretty much "back to my original question" kinda become automatic... hehe.
I mean the infinity ones.
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What happended about humans not being able to see infinite? we don't need to remember that now?
I didn't say that I saw infinitely. I said that I saw an earth which did not end.
But because we can't see to the infinite, that is irrelevant, all you see, is what your eyes allow you to, there could be anything beyond what you can see.
My eyes saw an earth which appeared unending. I did not see an end. I can only say that the earth seems to extend indefinitely into the distance.
Until there is direct evidence that the earth does end, an unending earth must stand as the prevailing theory.
You can't say you saw "an unending land", you "did not see the end of the land" is different. You do not know what is beyond what your eyes can see, based only on that, assuming the land keeps going on has the same validity that assuming the land will eventually end.
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Round earth socioty had mapped all of the earth in some detail and the vast majority of it in great detail. So I don't see that as unreasonable. It's not my fault you guys cannot be bothers to actualy try map the earth like we have with great succes. Try navigating using a round earth map in the Southern Hemisphere then do the same trip using a flat earth map. See if you mange.
RE theory is backed by all world governments, all secret societies and all scientific communities, including NASA. Although they probably know that the earth is flat, in order to keep the secrecy, they spend a lot of money to come up with fake maps and make sure no private citizen explores Antarctica unless supervised by proper officials. Give us few billion dollars and then we can map our flat earth, and tell the guard ships not to bother us.
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RE theory is backed by all world governments, all secret societies and all scientific communities, including NASA.
I wonder why
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Simple question, are there many discworlds, or are we special?
Statistics say that there are more flat, earthlike objects in space, yes. However, no one has found one yet as they (if they exist) are very, very far away.
Please provide the link to the statistics which say there are more flat, earth-like objects in space.
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Simple question, are there many discworlds, or are we special?
Statistics say that there are more flat, earthlike objects in space, yes. However, no one has found one yet as they (if they exist) are very, very far away.
Please provide the link to the statistics which say there are more flat, earth-like objects in space.
Assuming the universe is infinite, statistically anything can happen somewhere.
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Simple question, are there many discworlds, or are we special?
Statistics say that there are more flat, earthlike objects in space, yes. However, no one has found one yet as they (if they exist) are very, very far away.
Please provide the link to the statistics which say there are more flat, earth-like objects in space.
I already provided a link. It's showing how little effort you put into your replies.