The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth General => Topic started by: Zurian on November 17, 2012, 12:20:58 PM
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So since you flat-earthers do not believe pictures, as "all of them are photoshopped", don't believe videos "because they're all taken with fish-eye lenses", and ignore mathematical/ logical proof, my question to you is; what evidence of a RE will you believe? I will be sure to provide evidence by whatever means you wish.
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They don't want nor need any proof, as they actually do believe the Earth is round like everyone. They're here for trolling purpose, no more, no less.
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They don't want nor need any proof, as they actually do believe the Earth is round like everyone. They're here for trolling purpose, no more, no less.
I can buy that. I can also say that even if you could find a proof against it, you would get no posts from FEers. They purposefully ignore the ones they can't answer, or they answer and try to direct the conversation away from the OP. I see tactics such as "citation please" before they eve answer the OP. I also notice that the FE'ers have a few topics they really like to argue. Whenever someone posts a meaningful thing, they try to turn it into one of the threads that they can actively participate in so they think they've won. These people are remarkably stubborn and they think they're better than us.
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So since you flat-earthers do not believe pictures, as "all of them are photoshopped", don't believe videos "because they're all taken with fish-eye lenses", and ignore mathematical/ logical proof, my question to you is; what evidence of a RE will you believe? I will be sure to provide evidence by whatever means you wish.
Its wonderful how a camera shows perfectly straight 'perspective lines' that give the illusion of a 'horizon', but shows 'illusions of curvature' when it is sent into space.
It seems that cameras are in on the 'big conspiracy' too ! ;D
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So since you flat-earthers do not believe pictures, as "all of them are photoshopped", don't believe videos "because they're all taken with fish-eye lenses", and ignore mathematical/ logical proof, my question to you is; what evidence of a RE will you believe? I will be sure to provide evidence by whatever means you wish.
There are many proofs in Earth Not a Globe, it can be found in the Information Repository from the main forum menu.
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I can also say that even if you could find a proof against [flat-earth theory], you would get no posts from FEers.
This quote is very telling off how tenuous round-earth theory really is. People have been coming here for years trying to prove us wrong and guess what? Go ahead guess. That's right, her we still are.
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There is no single proof that the earth is not a sphere. Neither on this website nor anywhere else. Every so-called "proof" can be easily debunked with basic logic, they all use the most blattant falacious argumentation.
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So since you flat-earthers do not believe pictures, as "all of them are photoshopped", don't believe videos "because they're all taken with fish-eye lenses", and ignore mathematical/ logical proof, my question to you is; what evidence of a RE will you believe? I will be sure to provide evidence by whatever means you wish.
There are many proofs in Earth Not a Globe, it can be found in the Information Repository from the main forum menu.
I find this very telling, Hoppy didn't answer the original question. In jeopardy style he answered the question "what evidence do you have the earth is flat" rather than the original question.
There is a "theory" that some people believe that the earth is flat, what evidence would it take to change this view?
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So since you flat-earthers do not believe pictures, as "all of them are photoshopped", don't believe videos "because they're all taken with fish-eye lenses", and ignore mathematical/ logical proof, my question to you is; what evidence of a RE will you believe? I will be sure to provide evidence by whatever means you wish.
There are many proofs in Earth Not a Globe, it can be found in the Information Repository from the main forum menu.
I find this very telling, Hoppy didn't answer the original question. In jeopardy style he answered the question "what evidence do you have the earth is flat" rather than the original question.
There is a "theory" that some people believe that the earth is flat, what evidence would it take to change this view?
Exactly what Manarq said... i'm still awaiting an answer.
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I can also say that even if you could find a proof against [flat-earth theory], you would get no posts from FEers.
This quote is very telling off how tenuous round-earth theory really is. People have been coming here for years trying to prove us wrong and guess what? Go ahead guess. That's right, her we still are.
Yep, you're still here alright. Still coming up with retarded shrimp theories and antimoons and celestial gears. Still debunking valid points with ludicrous, irrational arguments. Still ignoring evidence that you can't even discount because any quess you could come up with would be shameful for you to post.
Basically, you're still here while every body else moves on with their lives. How many REers have been here since the beginning? Not many, I'll bet, because they see that spending time here arguing is a tremendous waste of energy.
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So since you flat-earthers do not believe pictures, as "all of them are photoshopped", don't believe videos "because they're all taken with fish-eye lenses", and ignore mathematical/ logical proof, my question to you is; what evidence of a RE will you believe? I will be sure to provide evidence by whatever means you wish.
There are many proofs in Earth Not a Globe, it can be found in the Information Repository from the main forum menu.
If you define 'proofs' as one man's word in a book from the 1800's through some ridiculous experiments that prove nothing due to false methods then you may be onto something.
It doesn't seem to make sense to accept this book as a form of proof under the FET logic of what is and isn't accepted as forms of evidence. If other scientists findings aren't accepted why is this man's findings accepted?
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If other scientists findings aren't accepted why is this man's findings accepted?
Rowbotham is smarter than all of those scientists.
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out of curiosity, how did you draw that conclusion?
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I read Earth Not a Globe.
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I have begun reading it and have already found why the first proof that he uses is false.
in the situation of a vessel or other object moving relative to the surface of the earth there is a consistent drag exerted by the air around the ball as it falls to the earth, this ends up expending the kinetic energy and so the ball ends up falling behind the vessel. when one throws a ball up while remaining motionless relative to the earth, this drag is not present as the atmosphere moves with the earth and not separately. so this makes him more intelligent?
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I can also say that even if you could find a proof against [flat-earth theory], you would get no posts from FEers.
This quote is very telling off how tenuous round-earth theory really is. People have been coming here for years trying to prove us wrong and guess what? Go ahead guess. That's right, her we still are.
How many REers have been here since the beginning? Not many, I'll bet, because they see that spending time here arguing is a tremendous waste of energy.
Markjo, LordDave, Nomad, Mugsy, Saddam, Wakka Wakka, Supertails, SCG do I need to go on?
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I can also say that even if you could find a proof against [flat-earth theory], you would get no posts from FEers.
This quote is very telling off how tenuous round-earth theory really is. People have been coming here for years trying to prove us wrong and guess what? Go ahead guess. That's right, her we still are.
How many REers have been here since the beginning? Not many, I'll bet, because they see that spending time here arguing is a tremendous waste of energy.
Markjo, LordDave, Nomad, Mugsy, Saddam, Wakka Wakka, Supertails, SCG do I need to go on?
I've only seen one or two of these in the debating fora. The rest are enjoying themselves in the other boards.
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I can also say that even if you could find a proof against [flat-earth theory], you would get no posts from FEers.
This quote is very telling off how tenuous round-earth theory really is. People have been coming here for years trying to prove us wrong and guess what? Go ahead guess. That's right, her we still are.
How many REers have been here since the beginning? Not many, I'll bet, because they see that spending time here arguing is a tremendous waste of energy.
Markjo, LordDave, Nomad, Mugsy, Saddam, Wakka Wakka, Supertails, SCG do I need to go on?
I've only seen one or two of these in the debating fora. The rest are enjoying themselves in the other boards.
Ah so you just worded your question poorly. Got it.
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I can also say that even if you could find a proof against [flat-earth theory], you would get no posts from FEers.
This quote is very telling off how tenuous round-earth theory really is. People have been coming here for years trying to prove us wrong and guess what? Go ahead guess. That's right, her we still are.
How many REers have been here since the beginning? Not many, I'll bet, because they see that spending time here arguing is a tremendous waste of energy.
Markjo, LordDave, Nomad, Mugsy, Saddam, Wakka Wakka, Supertails, SCG do I need to go on?
I've only seen one or two of these in the debating fora. The rest are enjoying themselves in the other boards.
Ah so you just worded your question poorly. Got it.
haha yeah i guess.
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How many REers have been here since the beginning? Not many, I'll bet, because they see that spending time here arguing is a tremendous waste of energy.
If only. There have actually been quite a few REers who have posted here for hours a day, months on end, in an apparent attempt to undo the damage they perceive us to be doing to society. Of course none of them has been able to prove that the Earth is round.
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How many REers have been here since the beginning? Not many, I'll bet, because they see that spending time here arguing is a tremendous waste of energy.
If only. There have actually been quite a few REers who have posted here for hours a day, months on end, in an apparent attempt to undo the damage they perceive us to be doing to society. Of course none of them has been able to prove that the Earth is round.
That's because the good points brought up are left unanswered. As a matter of fact, there are a few on the front pages of the 3 main boards I'm intently watching.
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I can also say that even if you could find a proof against [flat-earth theory], you would get no posts from FEers.
This quote is very telling off how tenuous round-earth theory really is. People have been coming here for years trying to prove us wrong and guess what? Go ahead guess. That's right, her we still are.
Sadaam is a spherical earth believer??? ???
How many REers have been here since the beginning? Not many, I'll bet, because they see that spending time here arguing is a tremendous waste of energy.
Markjo, LordDave, Nomad, Mugsy, Saddam, Wakka Wakka, Supertails, SCG do I need to go on?
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How many REers have been here since the beginning? Not many, I'll bet, because they see that spending time here arguing is a tremendous waste of energy.
If only. There have actually been quite a few REers who have posted here for hours a day, months on end, in an apparent attempt to undo the damage they perceive us to be doing to society. Of course none of them has been able to prove that the Earth is round.
That's because the good points brought up are left unanswered. As a matter of fact, there are a few on the front pages of the 3 main boards I'm intently watching.
Just do a forum search for your answers. I've been here for almost seven years and the same topics are debated again and again and again. If a question seems to be unanswered it's only because you haven't searched hard enough.
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How many REers have been here since the beginning? Not many, I'll bet, because they see that spending time here arguing is a tremendous waste of energy.
If only. There have actually been quite a few REers who have posted here for hours a day, months on end, in an apparent attempt to undo the damage they perceive us to be doing to society. Of course none of them has been able to prove that the Earth is round.
That's because the good points brought up are left unanswered. As a matter of fact, there are a few on the front pages of the 3 main boards I'm intently watching.
Most of us have other things to do as well you know. I first go through the messages in Show new replies to your posts.
. Lately I haven't been able to finish those, so I'm not posting in any new threads.
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How many REers have been here since the beginning? Not many, I'll bet, because they see that spending time here arguing is a tremendous waste of energy.
If only. There have actually been quite a few REers who have posted here for hours a day, months on end, in an apparent attempt to undo the damage they perceive us to be doing to society. Of course none of them has been able to prove that the Earth is round.
That's because the good points brought up are left unanswered. As a matter of fact, there are a few on the front pages of the 3 main boards I'm intently watching.
Just do a forum search for your answers. I've been here for almost seven years and the same topics are debated again and again and again. If a question seems to be unanswered it's only because you haven't searched hard enough.
Maybe there needs to be another sticky on the front page then of "topics we see often but haven't updated the wiki or faq about" then.
It doesn't change the original point of the thread though which is what would change your mind (Flat earthers in general) about the earth being flat.
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Simple. Prove that all those "scientists" that talk about having evidence for a RE are unbiased and are not influenced by the conspirators in governmental organizations. Prove that the fish-eye lenses are inadequate to discredit the videos. Prove that the light doesn't bend in such a way to provide the illusion of a round earth. Show us that the Ice wall doesn't work the way that it does, and that the guards patrolling it aren't there in reality. In short, disprove the FE. Of course, you can't do any of that.
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Simple. Prove that all those "scientists" that talk about having evidence for a RE are unbiased and are not influenced by the conspirators in governmental organizations. Prove that the fish-eye lenses are inadequate to discredit the videos. Prove that the light doesn't bend in such a way to provide the illusion of a round earth. Show us that the Ice wall doesn't work the way that it does, and that the guards patrolling it aren't there in reality. In short, disprove the FE. Of course, you can't do any of that.
The question is not how can we disprove all the wacko FE theories, its what evidence of a round earth will you accept. I think your answer proves the obvious: there is no evidence FE proponents will accept that will change their mind.
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Simple. Prove that all those "scientists" that talk about having evidence for a RE are unbiased and are not influenced by the conspirators in governmental organizations. Prove that the fish-eye lenses are inadequate to discredit the videos. Prove that the light doesn't bend in such a way to provide the illusion of a round earth. Show us that the Ice wall doesn't work the way that it does, and that the guards patrolling it aren't there in reality. In short, disprove the FE. Of course, you can't do any of that.
The question is not how can we disprove all the wacko FE theories, its what evidence of a round earth will you accept. I think your answer proves the obvious: there is no evidence FE proponents will accept that will change their mind.
We will accept evidence that disproves the evidence for FE. I cannot think of any other evidence that will change my mind in this because I don't think that any exists. If it does, then I will keep an open mind if and when it is presented.
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Simple. Prove that all those "scientists" that talk about having evidence for a RE are unbiased and are not influenced by the conspirators in governmental organizations. Prove that the fish-eye lenses are inadequate to discredit the videos. Prove that the light doesn't bend in such a way to provide the illusion of a round earth. Show us that the Ice wall doesn't work the way that it does, and that the guards patrolling it aren't there in reality. In short, disprove the FE. Of course, you can't do any of that.
You can take this and turn it round.
Prove there is a global (for lack of a better word) conspiracy
Prove that light does bend by the orders of magnitude etc required
Prove the ice wall exists at all
Prove that gravity doesn't exist
Prove bigfoot does/doesn't exist (depending on your view)
It's not worth taking that road, you must be able to come up with something tangible, short of going into space.
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Simple. Prove that all those "scientists" that talk about having evidence for a RE are unbiased and are not influenced by the conspirators in governmental organizations. Prove that the fish-eye lenses are inadequate to discredit the videos. Prove that the light doesn't bend in such a way to provide the illusion of a round earth. Show us that the Ice wall doesn't work the way that it does, and that the guards patrolling it aren't there in reality. In short, disprove the FE. Of course, you can't do any of that.
You can take this and turn it round.
Prove there is a global (for lack of a better word) conspiracy
Prove that light does bend by the orders of magnitude etc required
Prove the ice wall exists at all
Prove that gravity doesn't exist
Prove bigfoot does/doesn't exist (depending on your view)
It's not worth taking that road, you must be able to come up with something tangible, short of going into space.
1: The enlightening banned book, "The world trade center's gruesome secret", by Rufus Mondark, has plenty to say regarding that.
2: That has been shown in previous threads by multiple people. Look it up.
3: Antarctica.
4: Once again, look at some other threads.
5:I don't know whether Bigfoot exists. I suppose he might. ;)
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Maybe there needs to be another sticky on the front page then of "topics we see often but haven't updated the wiki or faq about" then.
There are hundreds of different topics which get debated over and over again. If you would like to invest the time to searching and compiling a list of links, that would be helpful.
It doesn't change the original point of the thread though which is what would change your mind (Flat earthers in general) about the earth being flat.
This question also comes up over and over.
I describe what would convince me here:
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,26775.0.html#.UKvfx4dX30Q (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,26775.0.html#.UKvfx4dX30Q)
Roundy describes what would convince him here:
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,38500.0.html#.UKvfsIdX30Q (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,38500.0.html#.UKvfsIdX30Q)
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It seems the thread you linked ground to a halt waiting for you to come up with a list of unconnected third parties. Just for my curiousity did you decide on anything?
Personally I'm eagerly awaiting the results of the lunar x-prize to validate and verify the claims of governmental space organizations regarding the nature of the moon and moon travel.
http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/prize-details (http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/prize-details)
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Simple. Prove that all those "scientists" that talk about having evidence for a RE are unbiased and are not influenced by the conspirators in governmental organizations. Prove that the fish-eye lenses are inadequate to discredit the videos. Prove that the light doesn't bend in such a way to provide the illusion of a round earth. Show us that the Ice wall doesn't work the way that it does, and that the guards patrolling it aren't there in reality. In short, disprove the FE. Of course, you can't do any of that.
You can take this and turn it round.
Prove there is a global (for lack of a better word) conspiracy
Prove that light does bend by the orders of magnitude etc required
Prove the ice wall exists at all
Prove that gravity doesn't exist
Prove bigfoot does/doesn't exist (depending on your view)
It's not worth taking that road, you must be able to come up with something tangible, short of going into space.
1: The enlightening banned book, "The world trade center's gruesome secret", by Rufus Mondark, has plenty to say regarding that.
2: That has been shown in previous threads by multiple people. Look it up.
3: Antarctica.
4: Once again, look at some other threads.
5:I don't know whether Bigfoot exists. I suppose he might. ;)
1: Not sure that proves there's a conspiracy to cover up the shape of the earth, especially seeing as I can't even find it
2: I've read many threads that have touched on this, eventually it seems half of all threads touch on it :) , I've not read a single one yet that proves the atmosphere can cause the effects in the magnitude needed by FET.
3: How's that proof there's an icewall?
4: I've not seen gravity disproven on here, I've seen people make up alternatives like the UA because gravity doesn't fit the model but that doesn't constitute proof that it doesn't exist.
In the end though this kind of arguing doesn't get you anywhere and usually ends up with a who get's bored first contest. Unfortunately that's pretty much how internet forums work I guess.
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It seems the thread you linked ground to a halt waiting for you to come up with a list of unconnected third parties. Just for my curiousity did you decide on anything?
I said any unconnected third party.
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http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,56431.0.html (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,56431.0.html)
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,27426.0.html (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,27426.0.html)
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,56592.0.html (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,56592.0.html)
These are those threads i said i was watching closely. My apologies if they've been answered before. I couldn't find them in the archives.
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Moved. Questions about FE'ers go in FEG.
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Simple. Prove that all those "scientists" that talk about having evidence for a RE are unbiased and are not influenced by the conspirators in governmental organizations. Prove that the fish-eye lenses are inadequate to discredit the videos. Prove that the light doesn't bend in such a way to provide the illusion of a round earth. Show us that the Ice wall doesn't work the way that it does, and that the guards patrolling it aren't there in reality. In short, disprove the FE. Of course, you can't do any of that.
You can take this and turn it round.
Prove there is a global (for lack of a better word) conspiracy
Prove that light does bend by the orders of magnitude etc required
Prove the ice wall exists at all
Prove that gravity doesn't exist
Prove bigfoot does/doesn't exist (depending on your view)
It's not worth taking that road, you must be able to come up with something tangible, short of going into space.
1: The enlightening banned book, "The world trade center's gruesome secret", by Rufus Mondark, has plenty to say regarding that.
2: That has been shown in previous threads by multiple people. Look it up.
3: Antarctica.
4: Once again, look at some other threads.
5:I don't know whether Bigfoot exists. I suppose he might. ;)
1: Not sure that proves there's a conspiracy to cover up the shape of the earth, especially seeing as I can't even find it
2: I've read many threads that have touched on this, eventually it seems half of all threads touch on it :) , I've not read a single one yet that proves the atmosphere can cause the effects in the magnitude needed by FET.
3: How's that proof there's an icewall?
4: I've not seen gravity disproven on here, I've seen people make up alternatives like the UA because gravity doesn't fit the model but that doesn't constitute proof that it doesn't exist.
In the end though this kind of arguing doesn't get you anywhere and usually ends up with a who get's bored first contest. Unfortunately that's pretty much how internet forums work I guess.
1: I said it's a banned book for a reason. It's really difficult to find, and I was lucky that my local library had it.
2: You just haven't looked hard enough.
3: Don't you think it looks like a wall of ice? It's obvious in the pictures!
4: Haven't looked hard enough. Again.
I will outlast you! You will get bored first!!!!! 8)
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All the FE'ers are claiming they've never been proven wrong but completely dodge the main post.