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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth General => Topic started by: Happy Forever on July 05, 2012, 02:34:30 PM

Title: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 05, 2012, 02:34:30 PM
The earth is flat. This is the truth.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Pongo on July 05, 2012, 02:42:21 PM
Good luck on your research. I'm moving this to Flat Earth General though.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 05, 2012, 02:52:27 PM
Good luck on your research. I'm moving this to Flat Earth General though.

Congratulate me for air, I can do nothing. My voice is not heared, my research is not read. I live in a corrupted country with no science. Universities reject my research, people or whom they are called "scholars and scientists" are stone minded machines, robot is smarter than them.

I am singing to myself. If someone do care to be with me, let say it loudly.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: EmperorZhark on July 05, 2012, 03:08:41 PM
Too amitious.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 05, 2012, 03:30:34 PM
Too amitious.

You can say, I trust The One.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: BoatswainsMate on July 05, 2012, 04:03:43 PM
Trolling on an alt, that is about all I can conclude from this and any of the other posts by Happy. you tell a great story, but bring to the table no research. You claim many things, but no proof included.

Also, if you have been to college why is your grammer so bad. You have so many mistakes in your writing and you claim to provide research to professors and scientists... They dismiss you most likely because the writing is atrocious.

Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 05, 2012, 04:16:38 PM
Trolling on an alt, that is about all I can conclude from this and any of the other posts by Happy. you tell a great story, but bring to the table no research. You claim many things, but no proof included.

Also, if you have been to college why is your grammer so bad. You have so many mistakes in your writing and you claim to provide research to professors and scientists... They dismiss you most likely because the writing is atrocious.

Not trolling. You're right, I didn't show you the research but it is not a secret, It is in a group in facebook with its name "Kol fi Falak Yasbahoun". It is in Arabic and will translate it but not now cuz I extending it and explaining more with more clear simple facts.

The problem is that I don't feel interested to continue, what I face and see here is not easy for any. I only wanted from this site to read some words to provoke me to continue so thank you for your words, hope will have an effect on me.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: hoppy on July 05, 2012, 05:26:18 PM
Trolling on an alt, that is about all I can conclude from this and any of the other posts by Happy. you tell a great story, but bring to the table no research. You claim many things, but no proof included.

Also, if you have been to college why is your grammer so bad. You have so many mistakes in your writing and you claim to provide research to professors and scientists... They dismiss you most likely because the writing is atrocious.

Not trolling. You're right, I didn't show you the research but it is not a secret, It is in a group in facebook with its name "Kol fi Falak Yasbahoun". It is in Arabic and will translate it but not now cuz I extending it and explaining more with more clear simple facts.

The problem is that I don't feel interested to continue, what I face and see here is not easy for any. I only wanted from this site to read some words to provoke me to continue so thank you for your words, hope will have an effect on me.
I anxiously await the translation into English. If it is true and real research I will stand with you to proclaim it.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: New Earth on July 05, 2012, 09:45:24 PM
Trolling on an alt, that is about all I can conclude from this and any of the other posts by Happy. you tell a great story, but bring to the table no research. You claim many things, but no proof included.

Also, if you have been to college why is your grammer so bad. You have so many mistakes in your writing and you claim to provide research to professors and scientists... They dismiss you most likely because the writing is atrocious.

Not trolling. You're right, I didn't show you the research but it is not a secret, It is in a group in facebook with its name "Kol fi Falak Yasbahoun". It is in Arabic and will translate it but not now cuz I extending it and explaining more with more clear simple facts.

The problem is that I don't feel interested to continue, what I face and see here is not easy for any. I only wanted from this site to read some words to provoke me to continue so thank you for your words, hope will have an effect on me.
I anxiously await the translation into English. If it is true and real research I will stand with you to proclaim it.


If you stand with him you guys gonna be called Hoppy and Happy lol
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 02:11:00 AM
Allah Akbar

Ok, I will work hard on finishing it quickly. If you know someone knows graphic. I can prove the falsehood of the ball earth, solar system and moon phases in one simple video of 5 minutes but requires aa good 3d program.
It will show you very clearly that the earth is flat for sure and the mindless people who think otherwise.
It is impossible to be a ball, this is the most stupid theory deceived humanity.

Trolling on an alt, that is about all I can conclude from this and any of the other posts by Happy. you tell a great story, but bring to the table no research. You claim many things, but no proof included.

Also, if you have been to college why is your grammer so bad. You have so many mistakes in your writing and you claim to provide research to professors and scientists... They dismiss you most likely because the writing is atrocious.

Not trolling. You're right, I didn't show you the research but it is not a secret, It is in a group in facebook with its name "Kol fi Falak Yasbahoun". It is in Arabic and will translate it but not now cuz I extending it and explaining more with more clear simple facts.

The problem is that I don't feel interested to continue, what I face and see here is not easy for any. I only wanted from this site to read some words to provoke me to continue so thank you for your words, hope will have an effect on me.
I anxiously await the translation into English. If it is true and real research I will stand with you to proclaim it.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 06, 2012, 06:02:43 AM
I am also anxious to see your research. Although, even if it is true and verifiable, you may become the next Galileo in history.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: iwanttobelieve on July 06, 2012, 06:19:42 AM
Is Archi still around?
We could get his very good friend and beekeeper
Alshek Mahmud (pronounced mach-mood) 
to verify this for us.

I will send a PM out at once.

A glorious new dawn awaits us!
Enlightenment for all!
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 06:28:31 AM
I am also anxious to see your research. Although, even if it is true and verifiable, you may become the next Galileo in history.

Lol, I don't want to insult dead people, let them to their God.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 06:31:15 AM
 ???

Lol, explain please.

You want to believe in what?

Is Archi still around?
We could get his very good friend and beekeeper
Alshek Mahmud (pronounced mach-mood) 
to verify this for us.

I will send a PM out at once.

A glorious new dawn awaits us!
Enlightenment for all!
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 06, 2012, 06:33:10 AM
You have to be trolling. Either that or you really can't interpret what I'm saying...
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 06:44:14 AM
Thinking man, you are a thinking man.

I am showing you a fact, debate without insult please.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 06, 2012, 07:01:45 AM
I do not understand your English. It's hard to debate when I have to spend 15 minutes figuring out what you've just said or asked. I'm really trying not to insult you. But it's almost like you're speaking a whole different language.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 07:22:29 AM
 ;D Let's speak Arabic, I am excellent in it.

Tell me which sentence not clear for you.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 06, 2012, 07:27:49 AM
I speak English and Pig Latin. Sorry.

Most of the sentences weren't clear. I can't specify which one.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 07:32:32 AM
 ;D ;D ;D

You really insult me, I am a good simultaneous translator.

15 minutes is too much, :). Be patient and let's start from the begnning.


BTW, I faced such when people find nothing to say anymore.

All the best
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 07:51:24 AM
Why the earth is flat? Why it is impossible to be round?

Regardless of all your marginal points debating the red eyes of the ghoul, forgrtting that there is no ghoul. I tell you that it is impossible for the earth to be round, and if it was round the earth be the earth and the sky wouldn't be the sky and we wouldn't be.

Scientifically, if we were in a ball in that mythical solar system, we wouldn't see the sun or the moon at all and would live in darkness all of us.

Ask me how. This is the core point and the solution of the stupid puzzle.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 06, 2012, 08:02:13 AM
Alright. I ask you, how? How would we all be in darkness? How would we not exist?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 08:12:39 AM
Ok, It is not an easy point but when you get it, will laugh till death for the human stupidity.

Try to get this example first:

You and your friend are standing in front of eath other. You see him as he sees you with approximately the same size but...

An ant on your shoulder seeing an ant on your friend's shoulder, they will see each other with same size approximately but....

How the ant on the friend shoulder sees you and how do you see it?


Take care and think deeply before replying, it is very sinsitive point.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 06, 2012, 08:16:23 AM
Well, I'm not biologist, but I'm pretty sure the ant would see me as extremely large. I know for sure I would see it as very small.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Borys on July 06, 2012, 09:15:45 AM
Ok, It is not an easy point but when you get it, will laugh till death for the human stupidity.

Try to get this example first:

You and your friend are standing in front of eath other. You see him as he sees you with approximately the same size but...

An ant on your shoulder seeing an ant on your friend's shoulder, they will see each other with same size approximately but....

How the ant on the friend shoulder sees you and how do you see it?


Take care and think deeply before replying, it is very sinsitive point.

Excuse me that I interfere in your talk, but it is also interestingly to me. On my opinion an ant will see a large surface
and another ant on it. Trere are no distortion of visibility or something.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 09:48:16 AM
Not at all, this topic is opened for all.

Do the same with the solar system theory.

The two people are the ball earth and the ball sun, the ant is us. How will the ant (us) see the man (the sun) in front of whom it is on his shoulder (earth)?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 06, 2012, 10:20:24 AM
Well... depending on which side of the earth you're on, it should be somewhere overhead.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Borys on July 06, 2012, 10:30:27 AM
Not at all, this topic is opened for all.

Do the same with the solar system theory.

The two people are the ball earth and the ball sun, the ant is us. How will the ant (us) see the man (the sun) in front of whom it is on his shoulder (earth)?

you mean that if Earth was round, we would see only part from the surface of the sun?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 06, 2012, 10:34:34 AM
Yes. And from the Earth, you would only see the sun from the part that was facing it. But because of distance and luminosity you could not see the "ant" standing on the sun (assuming it was possible to stand on the sun).
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 10:55:20 AM
Not at all, this topic is opened for all.

Do the same with the solar system theory.

The two people are the ball earth and the ball sun, the ant is us. How will the ant (us) see the man (the sun) in front of whom it is on his shoulder (earth)?

you mean that if Earth was round, we would see only part from the surface of the sun?

Yes and vice versa, we would see nothing at all!
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Son of Orospu on July 06, 2012, 11:04:55 AM
This almost seems like some kind of gag that your three made up. I am waiting for someone to say "Who's on first?".  Followed by, "Yes, he is.".

Back on topic, though.  How, exactly is this leading anywhere?  Maybe I am just missing it.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 06, 2012, 11:07:53 AM
I think I'm missing it too. I'm certainly not in on this, I have no idea what's going on. They ask, I answer. I think happy has reached his conclusion. But it's totally lost on me.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 11:10:06 AM
This almost seems like some kind of gag that your three made up. I am waiting for someone to say "Who's on first?".  Followed by, "Yes, he is.".

Back on topic, though.  How, exactly is this leading anywhere?  Maybe I am just missing it.

Yes you are.

Is this man representing you?
Be yourself.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: hoppy on July 06, 2012, 12:37:15 PM
Happy you are not too good at making a good point in all of your speaking.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Nolhekh on July 06, 2012, 12:44:37 PM
Ok, It is not an easy point but when you get it, will laugh till death for the human stupidity.

Try to get this example first:

You and your friend are standing in front of eath other. You see him as he sees you with approximately the same size but...

An ant on your shoulder seeing an ant on your friend's shoulder, they will see each other with same size approximately but....

How the ant on the friend shoulder sees you and how do you see it?


Take care and think deeply before replying, it is very sinsitive point.

One ant will actually see the same thing as the human, since they are the same distance from the other ant.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Nolhekh on July 06, 2012, 12:52:37 PM
How big something appears is determined by the "angular size"  angular size is how much your eye has to turn to look from one side of an object or creature to the other.  Since an ant has a specific size, and a specific distance, that produces, mathematically the same angular size as seen by both the human and the other ant.  The observer is always on the vertex of an angular size, and the vertex is not affected by the size of the observer.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Nolhekh on July 06, 2012, 12:53:56 PM
From the earth, the sun has a specific distance, and the sun itself has a specific size.  These things together produce an angular size that is well within our visibility.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 06, 2012, 12:54:42 PM
Therefore the Earth is flat...
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 12:59:51 PM
Therefore the Earth is flat...

Hahahaha  ;D

Funny

I hope you're not a Jew.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Nolhekh on July 06, 2012, 01:00:04 PM
A demonstration of angular size.  Angular size is the angle between any two of the lines connecting the corners of the cube to the POV (point of view/observer)  The cube could be ten times bigger, and ten times farther away, and it would look the same.  The size of the camera in the picture does not affect any of this.

(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/Nojaru/sphericalperspectivedemonstration.jpg)
What the camera sees:
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/Nojaru/sphericalperspectivedemonstrationPOV.jpg)
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Nolhekh on July 06, 2012, 01:02:24 PM
Therefore the Earth is flat...
Not only are you being disrespectful, these comments are making this thread longer and harder to read.  If someone doesn't agree with you, there's no call to jump to the conclusion that the person is a troll.

Therefore the Earth is flat...

Hahahaha  ;D

Funny

I hope you're not a Jew.
These comebacks don't make you look any better.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 01:03:52 PM
A demonstration of angular size.  Angular size is the angle between any two of the lines connecting the corners of the cube to the POV (point of view/observer)  The cube could be ten times bigger, and ten times farther away, and it would look the same.  The size of the camera in the picture does not affect any of this.

(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/Nojaru/sphericalperspectivedemonstration.jpg)
What the camera sees:
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/Nojaru/sphericalperspectivedemonstrationPOV.jpg)

Did you draw it now or before?

You're excellent at drawing. May you help me pleeeeeeeeeeeease?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 06, 2012, 01:25:45 PM
Therefore the Earth is flat...

Hahahaha  ;D

Funny

I hope you're not a Jew.

Excuse the fuck out of me? You don't want to be insulted, yet you post what appears to be racist or anti-Semitic filth? "Are you German? Do you mean you don't want to debate?" "You must be American." "I hope you're not a Jew." Go back to debating and leave sarcastic comments alone.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Nolhekh on July 06, 2012, 01:46:35 PM
That diagram took me about half an hour to make.  It was for another thread.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 06, 2012, 01:50:48 PM
You really search for the truth. I notice you do efforts and spend time for this case, that's why I asked you to participate in the research.

The God protect you.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: squevil on July 06, 2012, 06:42:59 PM
again happy you appear to have something to say, can you just demonstrate it rather than claiming something and telling us you have hard proof that the earth is flat. you have shown us nothing so far. so please can you explain clearly exactly why we cant see the sun if the earth is round?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: BoatswainsMate on July 08, 2012, 07:04:36 AM
Ummm are you asking how the black ball sees the sun compared to a white dot? Well the Earth has no eye sight so I am not sure how that can be answered. If a bird was perched on a humans shoulder and both look at the sun they would most likely see the same size object sense the sun is a fixed size. Exiting the Earth's atmosphere would of course give you a cleaner view of the sun so it would appear different then what someone would see on Earth. The size, however, would not differ just the perception of the object based on many factors.


Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 08, 2012, 08:52:50 AM

I did not! The sentence is in passive.  :(

Take care.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: squevil on July 08, 2012, 10:49:30 AM
i dont think you understand perspective correctly and the nasa picture is out of scale. if the nasa picture was in scale all we would see is the sun in the sky and nothing else. however the sun is a massive object millions of miles away. if you hold a ball to your eye you see nothing but a ball. its only when you move the ball further away can you see the whole ball for what it is.

my question to you is how large do you think the sun is and how far away do YOU think it is?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 09, 2012, 07:32:27 AM
Therefore the Earth is flat...
Not only are you being disrespectful, these comments are making this thread longer and harder to read.  If someone doesn't agree with you, there's no call to jump to the conclusion that the person is a troll.

Therefore the Earth is flat...

Hahahaha  ;D

Funny

I hope you're not a Jew.
These comebacks don't make you look any better.

Well when someone makes claim after claim after claim, says they want to debate, and when the debate begins, they bring nothing to the table but more baseless claims, and then says they feel insulted when you tell them they're bringing nothing to the table and are having a hard time understanding their English, I determine it to be a troll. Especially when this person is doing the same thing in every thread that they post in. It's okay for people to have their beliefs. But don't sit here and say "I can prove it" and then make no effort to do so.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: burt on July 09, 2012, 08:00:20 AM
Give the Fella some time he is just gathering the evidence and compiling it so it make sense. Good Luck, Happy.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 09, 2012, 08:03:31 AM
In that case, he should have waited until his claims can be substantiated.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: BoatswainsMate on July 09, 2012, 11:05:33 AM
He has ideas. I see no proof of anything in his post's, but ideas, yes.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: burt on July 09, 2012, 12:52:46 PM
In that case, he should have waited until his claims can be substantiated.

His claims haven't been posted yet; that's what we are waiting for.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 09, 2012, 12:54:24 PM
Oh no, if you read the OP, he says quite clearly that the earth is flat and he has proof.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Son of Orospu on July 09, 2012, 01:27:09 PM
Having proof in your head is not the same as internet proof.  Give him a little time.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: BoatswainsMate on July 09, 2012, 01:39:18 PM
I have proof of mermaids in my head...
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 09, 2012, 01:40:37 PM
What does it mean, to have proof in your head? I think I saw a UFO about a football field away from me once, does that mean I have proof in my head?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Son of Orospu on July 09, 2012, 01:41:21 PM
I have proof of mermaids in my head...

You had better watch it.  The bam hammer has been swinging wildly lately.  Poor hoopy. 

Just watch yourself.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: burt on July 09, 2012, 08:22:20 PM
Why are people trampling Happy Forever? he's clearly got some earth flattening proof. we just need to give him time to get it all compiled.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: EmperorZhark on July 10, 2012, 01:37:28 AM
Why are people trampling Happy Forever? he's clearly got some earth flattening proof. we just need to give him time to get it all compiled.

 ;)
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: mathsman on July 10, 2012, 07:16:06 AM
Why are people trampling Happy Forever? he's clearly got some earth flattening proof. we just need to give him time to get it all compiled.

Perhaps it will be included as a chapter in John Davis' book.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: maserati on July 10, 2012, 07:40:13 AM
the earth is indeed flat.....
it said also in holy book (quran and al-kitab)
and also via physic experiment
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 10, 2012, 08:12:27 AM
the earth is indeed flat.....
it said also in holy book (quran and al-kitab)
and also via physic experiment

I assume you mean "physics experiment". I was wondering what experiment this was, who did it, and if you could perhaps humor and show us all the data from this experiment for community validation?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 10, 2012, 08:21:05 AM
the earth is indeed flat.....
it said also in holy book (quran and al-kitab)
and also via physic experiment

How do you know?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: EmperorZhark on July 10, 2012, 09:36:42 AM
I'd like to see this "physic experiment”.

And mixing religion with science isn't a good idea. A wrong reading of a religious book is a very bad idea.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 10, 2012, 10:10:57 AM
Why is mixing religion and science a bad idea (or not a good one)? Maybe people will get angry, but the way I interpret religion is a culture's way of attempting to explain phenomena they did not have the technological or mathematical capability of understanding.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: EmperorZhark on July 10, 2012, 04:06:58 PM
Why is mixing religion and science a bad idea (or not a good one)? Maybe people will get angry, but the way I interpret religion is a culture's way of attempting to explain phenomena they did not have the technological or mathematical capability of understanding.

You sat it: its a way of explaining something beyond someone's grasp: it doesn't lead to science.

And the prism of religion can distort too much, like people saying that the Coran and the Bible prove that the Earth is flat.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 11, 2012, 06:09:39 AM
I see what you're saying now. It's spelled Koran though. Just thought you should know lol. I don't really try to mix them, I just try and see the points where they seem to mesh or say something similar, or the points where they clearly DO NOT contradict one another, when other people say they do. Like a flat earth, evolution, or the big bang.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Archibald on July 11, 2012, 12:02:33 PM
Trolling on an alt, that is about all I can conclude from this and any of the other posts by Happy. you tell a great story, but bring to the table no research. You claim many things, but no proof included.

Also, if you have been to college why is your grammer so bad. You have so many mistakes in your writing and you claim to provide research to professors and scientists... They dismiss you most likely because the writing is atrocious.

Not trolling. You're right, I didn't show you the research but it is not a secret, It is in a group in facebook with its name "Kol fi Falak Yasbahoun". It is in Arabic and will translate it but not now cuz I extending it and explaining more with more clear simple facts.

The problem is that I don't feel interested to continue, what I face and see here is not easy for any. I only wanted from this site to read some words to provoke me to continue so thank you for your words, hope will have an effect on me.
I anxiously await the translation into English. If it is true and real research I will stand with you to proclaim it.

If you stand with him you guys gonna be called Hoppy and Happy lol

Irrelevant.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 11, 2012, 12:09:44 PM
Well that post was completely pointless Archi. But anyway, does anyone know what happened to Happy Forever? I supposed he's been up all day and all night for days almost completely ignoring the people he made promises of truth to, compiling all of his works and translating them into English (with very poor grammar).

If this is true, I'm still here waiting. I'm probably the only one still here waiting, everyone else got bored and left.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: hoppy on July 11, 2012, 12:17:56 PM
Well that post was completely pointless Archi. But anyway, does anyone know what happened to Happy Forever? I supposed he's been up all day and all night for days almost completely ignoring the people he made promises of truth to, compiling all of his works and translating them into English (with very poor grammar).

If this is true, I'm still here waiting. I'm probably the only one still here waiting, everyone else got bored and left.
You must have patience while seeking truth. As they say patience is a virtue.
  BTW, Hi Archie. Were you and Dr Crustinator able to escape Ecuador without harm?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 11, 2012, 12:27:03 PM
I don't seek truth, actually. I seek supportable evidence. Science does not have the capability of revealing "truth". Only theories. Very rarely does a scientific theory go past that stage. Even what they teach in elementary school science class, which people take for granted as "fact", is usually only considered a theory.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: hoppy on July 11, 2012, 12:31:24 PM
I have posted proof of FE, was that not enough?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 11, 2012, 12:42:31 PM
Where is this proof? Provide a link perhaps?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: burt on July 11, 2012, 12:45:12 PM
I don't seek truth, actually. I seek supportable evidence. Science does not have the capability of revealing "truth". Only theories. Very rarely does a scientific theory go past that stage. Even what they teach in elementary school science class, which people take for granted as "fact", is usually only considered a theory.

What they teach in secondary is newtonian mechanics, is it not?

though I agree with you, on the not looking for truth thing. the problem with a lot or religions is they think that a claim to some knowledge should come with knowing everything, because they want their anxiety to abate. That's what they find scary about science. They would rather believe something that offers them a "theory of everything" rather than believe something that is progressive, changeable and uncertain; this is in intinsic disagreement with the fundemental ethic of traditionalism in religion.


[Edit]: disclaimer, this is such a bad representation of what I wanted to say, i'm not gonna bother editing it, I'm sure you get the gist.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 11, 2012, 12:50:47 PM
I don't seek truth, actually. I seek supportable evidence. Science does not have the capability of revealing "truth". Only theories. Very rarely does a scientific theory go past that stage. Even what they teach in elementary school science class, which people take for granted as "fact", is usually only considered a theory.

What they teach in secondary is newtonian mechanics, is it not?

though I agree with you, on the not looking for truth thing. the problem with a lot or religions is they think that a claim to some knowledge should come with knowing everything, because they want their anxiety to abate, that's what they find scary about science, so they would rather beleive something that offers them a "theory of everything" rather than believe something that is progressive and changeable, uncertain, this is in intinsic disagreement with the fundemental ethic of traditionalism in religion.

Newtonian, and it delves a bit into General Relativity. When I say a bit, I mean it just makes the tiniest scratch on the surface. I remember them teaching us E=mc2. In high school they got more into relativity, but still just scratching the surface, as there's a lot of information there. I'm no physicist. Just a measly engineer. Well... In school for engineering. But I learned a lot about nuclear physics in the 5th grade :) I think I scared my teachers. I knew about quarks and they said "what's a quark? do you mean a cork?"
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: burt on July 11, 2012, 12:52:16 PM
Trolling on an alt, that is about all I can conclude from this and any of the other posts by Happy. you tell a great story, but bring to the table no research. You claim many things, but no proof included.

Also, if you have been to college why is your grammer so bad. You have so many mistakes in your writing and you claim to provide research to professors and scientists... They dismiss you most likely because the writing is atrocious.

Not trolling. You're right, I didn't show you the research but it is not a secret, It is in a group in facebook with its name "Kol fi Falak Yasbahoun". It is in Arabic and will translate it but not now cuz I extending it and explaining more with more clear simple facts.

The problem is that I don't feel interested to continue, what I face and see here is not easy for any. I only wanted from this site to read some words to provoke me to continue so thank you for your words, hope will have an effect on me.
I anxiously await the translation into English. If it is true and real research I will stand with you to proclaim it.

If you stand with him you guys gonna be called Hoppy and Happy lol

Irrelevant.

Impossible.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Archibald on July 11, 2012, 01:01:41 PM
Well that post was completely pointless Archi. But anyway, does anyone know what happened to Happy Forever? I supposed he's been up all day and all night for days almost completely ignoring the people he made promises of truth to, compiling all of his works and translating them into English (with very poor grammar).

If this is true, I'm still here waiting. I'm probably the only one still here waiting, everyone else got bored and left.
You must have patience while seeking truth. As they say patience is a virtue.
  BTW, Hi Archie. Were you and Dr Crustinator able to escape Ecuador without harm?

I have been in Saudi Arabia, just north of Rub' Al Khali.  I returned ungarmed however it was a tough journey after recovery from my addiction to diet pills.  I have important imformation regarding my investigations and subsequent discoveries to share with all of you at a later time.  I am soon going to the doctor today to pick up my new prosthetic leg, as you know I lost one of my legs in the gulf of mexico while working as a commercial fisherman out of New Orleans.  Thank you for your concern brother Hoppy.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Happy Forever on July 11, 2012, 02:11:56 PM
The Healer heals you insha Allah Mr Archibald


Sorry guys, no more posts from me, I cannot say more that what I said.

Maybe you will hear about that research "Kol Fi Falak Yasbahoun" if finished or if I am still alive.

Pray for me.

Salam
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: squevil on July 11, 2012, 08:51:38 PM
oh dear another let down then happy :( one day somebody will blow us away. be it a real astronaut or a flat earth cartographer. one day, one day...
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Lord Wilmore on July 12, 2012, 07:39:36 PM
There is great wisdom to be found in the Books of Man.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Cat Earth Theory on July 12, 2012, 07:56:24 PM
There is great wisdom to be found in the Books of Man.

 ::) Yes, the Books of Man, as opposed to the books written by dinosaurs, I suppose.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Lord Wilmore on July 12, 2012, 08:09:29 PM
Are you categorically stating that no other species or life form has ever written a book or something of equivalent meaning/significance?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Cat Earth Theory on July 12, 2012, 08:11:41 PM
Are you categorically stating that no other species or life form has ever written a book or something of equivalent meaning/significance?

Not that I'm aware of, so it'd be kinda hard to read their books if we don't know if they even exist.

Nice try at sounding Profound, though.  I'm sure you'll get there some day.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Lord Wilmore on July 12, 2012, 08:16:04 PM
Are you categorically stating that no other species or life form has ever written a book or something of equivalent meaning/significance?

Not that I'm aware of, so it'd be kinda hard to read their books if we don't know if they even exist.

Nice try at sounding Profound, though.  I'm sure you'll get there some day.


Answer the question.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Cat Earth Theory on July 12, 2012, 08:18:34 PM
 ::) Oh lordy, Wilmore, I'm just making fun of you. 
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Lord Wilmore on July 12, 2012, 08:19:18 PM
::) Oh lordy, Wilmore, I'm just making fun of you.


So you refuse to answer the question. I see.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Cat Earth Theory on July 12, 2012, 08:21:26 PM
::) Oh lordy, Wilmore, I'm just making fun of you.


So you refuse to answer the question. I see.

The answer is already in my reply.  I said that I'm not aware of any books written by other species, which leaves open the possibility that other species have written books.  So the answer is clearly no.

This confirms my doubts about your ability to comprehend what you read.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Lord Wilmore on July 12, 2012, 08:26:27 PM
The answer is already in my reply.  I said that I'm not aware of any books written by other species, which leaves open the possibility that other species have written books.  So the answer is clearly no.

This confirms my doubts about your ability to comprehend what you read.


On the contrary. I asked whether you were "categorically stating that no other species or life form has ever written a book or something of equivalent meaning/significance". Now, "categorically" means without exception or qualification. Leaving open possibilities such as those you mention above is a qualification. If your answer to my question is "no", then you cannot at the same time admit such a possibility.


So you have contradicted yourself. Please clarify.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Cat Earth Theory on July 12, 2012, 08:30:47 PM
On the contrary. I asked whether you were "categorically stating that no other species or life form has ever written a book or something of equivalent meaning/significance". Now, "categorically" means without exception or qualification. Leaving open possibilities such as those you mention above is a qualification. If your answer to my question is "no", then you cannot at the same time admit such a possibility.


So you have contradicted yourself. Please clarify.

Once again, I don't think you comprehend.  You asked me if I was categorically stating that no other life form has ever written a book.  My answer is no, meaning I was not categorically stating that.

So no contradiction, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Lord Wilmore on July 12, 2012, 09:01:30 PM
Once again, I don't think you comprehend.  You asked me if I was categorically stating that no other life form has ever written a book.  My answer is no, meaning I was not categorically stating that.

So no contradiction, I'm afraid.


So do you categorically agree that my original statement was in no way problematic?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Cat Earth Theory on July 12, 2012, 09:37:56 PM
Once again, I don't think you comprehend.  You asked me if I was categorically stating that no other life form has ever written a book.  My answer is no, meaning I was not categorically stating that.

So no contradiction, I'm afraid.


So do you categorically agree that my original statement was in no way problematic?

Goodness no, it sounded pompous as all hell.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: Lord Wilmore on July 12, 2012, 10:02:12 PM
Goodness no, it sounded pompous as all hell.


Aesthetic sensibilities aside?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: EmperorZhark on July 13, 2012, 01:54:29 AM
Goodness no, it sounded pompous as all hell.


Aesthetic sensibilities aside?

I am categorically stating that no other species or life form has ever written a book or something of equivalent meaning/significance ON EARTH?

What's your point?
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 13, 2012, 05:41:37 AM
Books are flat. Perhaps that's what we should rename this thread.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: EmperorZhark on July 14, 2012, 11:28:29 AM
May be Lord Wilmore is flat.
Title: Re: The earth is flat
Post by: ThinkingMan on July 16, 2012, 06:56:55 AM
Maybe trees are flat too. Because paper is made from trees... and paper is flat... My god I've solved the greatest scientific mystery of all time!