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Title: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 08:25:04 AM
Why are all other planets, stars, and moons in our solar system and our galaxy spherical?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Beorn on March 30, 2011, 08:30:59 AM
Why are all other planets, stars, and moons in our solar system and our galaxy spherical?

How did the universe come to be?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 08:51:58 AM
Why are all other planets, stars, and moons in our solar system and our galaxy spherical?

How did the universe come to be?

Well beyond the Big Bang theory, the origins of the known universe isn't precisely known.  Do you have an idea as to how other planets and moons are spherical in shape?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Beorn on March 30, 2011, 08:53:49 AM
Why are all other planets, stars, and moons in our solar system and our galaxy spherical?

How did the universe come to be?

Well beyond the Big Bang theory, the origins of the known universe isn't precisely known.  Do you have an idea as to how other planets and moons are spherical in shape?

Nope.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: sillyrob on March 30, 2011, 08:55:36 AM
Why are all other planets, stars, and moons in our solar system and our galaxy spherical?

How did the universe come to be?

Well beyond the Big Bang theory, the origins of the known universe isn't precisely known.  Do you have an idea as to how other planets and moons are spherical in shape?
Because they're not Earth.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: fluffycornsnake on March 30, 2011, 08:57:00 AM
Why are all other planets, stars, and moons in our solar system and our galaxy spherical?

Do you have any evidence for these claims?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 09:09:33 AM
Why are all other planets, stars, and moons in our solar system and our galaxy spherical?

Do you have any evidence for these claims?

Well I suppose if we throw out the mountains of evidence provided us by science and instead rely only on our own personal observations, I suppose there's no proof of anything beyond the ends of our own noses.   ;)
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: fluffycornsnake on March 30, 2011, 09:15:06 AM
Why are all other planets, stars, and moons in our solar system and our galaxy spherical?

Do you have any evidence for these claims?

Well I suppose if we throw out the mountains of evidence contrived propaganda provided us by science and instead rely only on our own personal observations, I suppose we shall learn a great deal. ;)

FTFY
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 09:19:14 AM
Why are all other planets, stars, and moons in our solar system and our galaxy spherical?

Do you have any evidence for these claims?

Well I suppose if we throw out the mountains of evidence contrived propaganda provided us by science and instead rely only on our own personal observations, I suppose we shall learn a great deal. ;)

FTFY

I do get it that this little web site was created because of an overall lack of faith in the scientific community.  Do you distrust ALL that science has to offer or just certain aspects?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: sillyrob on March 30, 2011, 09:22:35 AM
Why are all other planets, stars, and moons in our solar system and our galaxy spherical?

Do you have any evidence for these claims?

Well I suppose if we throw out the mountains of evidence contrived propaganda science provided us by science and instead rely only on our own personal observations, I suppose we shall learn a great deal. ;)

FTFY
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: fluffycornsnake on March 30, 2011, 09:39:21 AM
Why are all other planets, stars, and moons in our solar system and our galaxy spherical?

Do you have any evidence for these claims?

Well I suppose if we throw out the mountains of evidence contrived propaganda provided us by science and instead rely only on our own personal observations, I suppose we shall learn a great deal. ;)

FTFY

I do get it that this little web site was created because of an overall lack of faith in the scientific community.  Do you distrust ALL that science has to offer or just certain aspects?

It depends on its usage. As an indicator of probabilities, scientific method is useful. But it is dangerously false to hoist science on a pedestal, as a means of attaining 'truth' and asserting 'knowledge'.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 10:02:46 AM
Why are all other planets, stars, and moons in our solar system and our galaxy spherical?

Do you have any evidence for these claims?

Well I suppose if we throw out the mountains of evidence contrived propaganda provided us by science and instead rely only on our own personal observations, I suppose we shall learn a great deal. ;)

FTFY

I do get it that this little web site was created because of an overall lack of faith in the scientific community.  Do you distrust ALL that science has to offer or just certain aspects?

It depends on its usage. As an indicator of probabilities, scientific method is useful. But it is dangerously false to hoist science on a pedestal, as a means of attaining 'truth' and asserting 'knowledge'.
Do you feel it's the scientific community that is  hoisted on a pedestal or is it the scientific method?  Surely we can all agree that the method itself is not corrupt.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 10:12:30 AM
Its not just coincidence that we dont see the dark side of the moon. Its because it isnt orbitting us.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 10:14:46 AM
Its not just coincidence that we dont see the dark side of the moon. Its because it isnt orbitting us.

So do you believe it's spherical in shape?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 10:44:16 AM
Its not just coincidence that we dont see the dark side of the moon. Its because it isnt orbitting us.

So do you believe it's spherical in shape?
Its a disc.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 10:47:50 AM
Its not just coincidence that we dont see the dark side of the moon. Its because it isnt orbitting us.

So do you believe it's spherical in shape?
Its a disc.

And it's your belief that the large volume of photos and video of the moon ... in orbit around the Earth... is a manufactured ruse?  Do you believe this because you simply don't trust the scientific community or because you have seen other evidence that contradicts their findings?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 10:53:33 AM
Its not just coincidence that we dont see the dark side of the moon. Its because it isnt orbitting us.

So do you believe it's spherical in shape?
Its a disc.

And it's your belief that the large volume of photos and video of the moon ... in orbit around the Earth... is a manufactured ruse?  Do you believe this because you simply don't trust the scientific community or because you have seen other evidence that contradicts their findings?
You evidence is based on what you have been shown yourself, unless you have been to the moon yourself.

Based on this, i have seen David Copperfield make the empire state building vanish and cats juggling. It doesnt mean that everything we see is real.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 10:54:25 AM
Its not just coincidence that we dont see the dark side of the moon. Its because it isnt orbitting us.

So do you believe it's spherical in shape?
Its a disc.

And it's your belief that the large volume of photos and video of the moon ... in orbit around the Earth... is a manufactured ruse?  Do you believe this because you simply don't trust the scientific community or because you have seen other evidence that contradicts their findings?
You evidence is based on what you have been shown yourself, unless you have been to the moon yourself.

Based on this, i have seen David Copperfield make the empire state building vanish and cats juggling. It doesnt mean that everything we see is real.

Been to the polar ice caps, have you?  Or what about the moon and sun discs?  Been there too?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 10:58:11 AM
No, but im not on a RET forum trying to debunk their theories.

If you have got something credible to bring to the table then fine, but if your entire argument is based on pictures you have seen then please refer to my previous post.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: sillyrob on March 30, 2011, 11:03:03 AM
Its not just coincidence that we dont see the dark side of the moon. Its because it isnt orbitting us.

So do you believe it's spherical in shape?
Its a disc.

And it's your belief that the large volume of photos and video of the moon ... in orbit around the Earth... is a manufactured ruse?  Do you believe this because you simply don't trust the scientific community or because you have seen other evidence that contradicts their findings?
You evidence is based on what you have been shown yourself, unless you have been to the moon yourself.

Based on this, i have seen David Copperfield make the empire state building vanish and cats juggling. It doesnt mean that everything we see is real.
Let's compare an entertainer to a group of scientists because that's a logical comparison.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 11:05:06 AM
Its not just coincidence that we dont see the dark side of the moon. Its because it isnt orbitting us.

So do you believe it's spherical in shape?
Its a disc.

And it's your belief that the large volume of photos and video of the moon ... in orbit around the Earth... is a manufactured ruse?  Do you believe this because you simply don't trust the scientific community or because you have seen other evidence that contradicts their findings?
You evidence is based on what you have been shown yourself, unless you have been to the moon yourself.

Based on this, i have seen David Copperfield make the empire state building vanish and cats juggling. It doesnt mean that everything we see is real.
Let's compare an entertainer to a group of scientists because that's a logical comparison.
I think you will find rob that they were referring to the vidoes and pictures. Do try to keep up.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: sillyrob on March 30, 2011, 11:08:05 AM
Its not just coincidence that we dont see the dark side of the moon. Its because it isnt orbitting us.

So do you believe it's spherical in shape?
Its a disc.

And it's your belief that the large volume of photos and video of the moon ... in orbit around the Earth... is a manufactured ruse?  Do you believe this because you simply don't trust the scientific community or because you have seen other evidence that contradicts their findings?
You evidence is based on what you have been shown yourself, unless you have been to the moon yourself.

Based on this, i have seen David Copperfield make the empire state building vanish and cats juggling. It doesnt mean that everything we see is real.
Let's compare an entertainer to a group of scientists because that's a logical comparison.
I think you will find rob that they were referring to the vidoes and pictures. Do try to keep up.
Amateurs are constantly video taping and taking pictures of the dark side of the moon.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 11:10:32 AM
Amateurs make fake videos also.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 11:11:30 AM
Amateurs make fake videos also.

Every video and photo you see is fake if it contradicts your personal beliefs?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 11:17:14 AM
Amateurs make fake videos also.

Every video and photo you see is fake if it contradicts your personal beliefs?
No, but it doesnt make it true either.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 11:19:12 AM
Amateurs make fake videos also.

Every video and photo you see is fake if it contradicts your personal beliefs?
No, but it doesnt make it true either.

True enough.  If you were to see a photo or video of the Earth from outter space and it depicted that indeed the Earth was a flat disc, would you believe the photo?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 11:22:02 AM
Amateurs make fake videos also.

Every video and photo you see is fake if it contradicts your personal beliefs?
No, but it doesnt make it true either.

True enough.  If you were to see a photo or video of the Earth from outter space and it depicted that indeed the Earth was indeed a flat disc, would you believe the photo?
More than likely not. In the day in age we live in, unless its witnessed first hand there is never 100% guarantee that it is correct.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 11:22:41 AM
Amateurs make fake videos also.

Every video and photo you see is fake if it contradicts your personal beliefs?
No, but it doesnt make it true either.

True enough.  If you were to see a photo or video of the Earth from outter space and it depicted that indeed the Earth was indeed a flat disc, would you believe the photo?
More than likely not. In the day in age we live in, unless its witnessed first hand there is never 100% guarantee that it is correct.

You don't trust anything, do you?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: sillyrob on March 30, 2011, 11:24:01 AM
Amateurs can make fake videos also.
Are you insisting that all videos of the dark side of the moon are fake?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: sillyrob on March 30, 2011, 11:25:46 AM
If it's possible that real video from the moon is fake, is it possible that magicians actually make buildings disappear?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 11:27:34 AM
If it's possible that real video from the moon is fake, is it possible that magicians actually make buildings disappear?

Well at least Santa Clause is real. 
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 11:36:42 AM
If it's possible that real video from the moon is fake, is it possible that magicians actually make buildings disappear?
If its possible its also impossible.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: sillyrob on March 30, 2011, 11:38:14 AM
If it's possible that real video from the moon is fake, is it possible that magicians actually make buildings disappear?
If its possible its also impossible.
You are correct.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 11:39:20 AM
If it's possible that real video from the moon is fake, is it possible that magicians actually make buildings disappear?
If its possible its also impossible.

Is it possible that the technology you're using right now is fake?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 11:51:56 AM
If it's possible that real video from the moon is fake, is it possible that magicians actually make buildings disappear?
If its possible its also impossible.

Is it possible that the technology you're using right now is fake?
Of course it can.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 11:53:57 AM
If it's possible that real video from the moon is fake, is it possible that magicians actually make buildings disappear?
If its possible its also impossible.

Is it possible that the technology you're using right now is fake?
Of course it can.

If I were you I'd turn it off and unplug it.  Who knows what nefarious deeds it's programmed to do to you. 
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 12:27:31 PM
You sound like my IT department.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 12:40:03 PM
You sound like my IT department.

And you sound like a Creationist.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 12:59:53 PM
You sound like my IT department.

And you sound like a Creationist.
If only i was.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 01:05:36 PM
You sound like my IT department.

And you sound like a Creationist.
If only i was.

So you do accept evolutionary biology?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 01:14:47 PM
I believe it is the most reasonable answer.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 01:18:19 PM
I believe it is the most reasonable answer.

You sure you can trust those biologists, paleontologists, microbiologists and so forth?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 01:19:57 PM
I believe it is the most reasonable answer.

You sure you can trust those biologists, paleontologists, microbiologists and so forth?
No i am not, but its not just based on what i am told.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 01:30:08 PM
I believe it is the most reasonable answer.

You sure you can trust those biologists, paleontologists, microbiologists and so forth?
No i am not, but its not just based on what i am told.

In other words you've gone to the effort of doing your own reading and research to find out for yourself?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Jack1704 on March 30, 2011, 03:17:24 PM
yes
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 04:08:06 PM
yes

Why would you trust your findings?
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: Around And About on March 30, 2011, 04:45:13 PM
yes

Why would you trust your other people's findings?

I'm assuming he's not an evolutionary biologist who conducts his own research.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: lagnaf on March 30, 2011, 04:46:29 PM
yes

Why would you trust your other people's findings?

I'm assuming he's not an evolutionary biologist who conducts his own research.

Word.
Title: Re: Another question
Post by: JoshuaZ on March 30, 2011, 07:30:33 PM
Why are all other planets, stars, and moons in our solar system and our galaxy spherical?

Do you have any evidence for these claims?

Well, you can check this yourself for Mars and Venus with a telescope that isn't too expensive. And if you buy a decent backyard telescope you can confirm it quite well for Mars. You'll need to be patient and you will need to do it somewhere without much light pollution but this isn't that tough for at least those two bodies. Detecting the roundness of other bodies is tougher (incidentally Lagnaf is actually incorrect when it comes to moons. Some of the smaller moons are not spherical (such as Deimos and Phobos, the moons of Mars). But even detecting those bodies is very difficult since they are so small. (This is precisely why they aren't spherical- you get near spheres when objects have enough gravity to pull themselves into a spherical shape. That's why all large objects are sphere.) They weren't detected until the late 19th century.) So you can't see them with a small telescope.