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DMT is supposedly a chemical hallucination that is released in your brain as you are dying. This is why some people that have died and returned, have claim to have flash-backs, or near death experiences.
What could this mean? We are already dead (or dying) and what we are experiencing now is a flashback induced by the DMT, which we are bound to experience over and over for eternity.
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This actually is the first time we have lived, so you better be satisfied with the way you have lived your life, because you may have to relive it for eternity.
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I don't even
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Oh god. The possibilities. The more I think, the more it makes sense.
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I do not think it works like you think it works.
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I do not think it works like you think it works.
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DMT is supposedly a chemical hallucination that is released in your brain as you are dying. This is why some people that have died and returned, have claim to have flash-backs, or near death experiences.
What could this mean? We are already dead (or dying) and what we are experiencing now is a flashback induced by the DMT, which we are bound to experience over and over for eternity.
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This actually is the first time we have lived, so you better be satisfied with the way you have lived your life, because you may have to relive it for eternity.
Sounds suspiciously like the movie Jacobs Ladder.
Berny
Eating my shawarma
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I do not think it works like you think it works.
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DMT is supposedly a chemical hallucination that is released in your brain as you are dying. This is why some people that have died and returned, have claim to have flash-backs, or near death experiences.
What could this mean? We are already dead (or dying) and what we are experiencing now is a flashback induced by the DMT, which we are bound to experience over and over for eternity.
OR
This actually is the first time we have lived, so you better be satisfied with the way you have lived your life, because you may have to relive it for eternity.
Sounds suspiciously like the movie Jacobs Ladder.
Berny
Eating my shawarma
shoarma??
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The real question is why aren't people abusing DMT for its hallucinogenic properties?
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Because you need to be dying for it to work. Think of it like balancing on the edge of the side walk, only if you touch the street, your heart stops for good.
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The real question is why aren't people abusing DMT for its hallucinogenic properties?
Because most people have sucky lives. Why would they want to relive it?
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Also, why risk it if you can just drop some acid?
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DMT is supposedly a chemical hallucination that is released in your brain as you are dying. This is why some people that have died and returned, have claim to have flash-backs, or near death experiences.
What could this mean? We are already dead (or dying) and what we are experiencing now is a flashback induced by the DMT, which we are bound to experience over and over for eternity.
OR
This actually is the first time we have lived, so you better be satisfied with the way you have lived your life, because you may have to relive it for eternity.
Sounds suspiciously like the movie Jacobs Ladder.
Berny
Eating my shawarma
shoarma??
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTq4rOjrhnbMGMAFv-WeRf5aaSK-iYa6v3QfhUpGWWFyVSBHM-XMg)
Shawarma
Berny
Didn't eat the whole thing just a sandwich
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQki-wYsIwUzxnIkxIoX9F_28fp_ufzJNKEn_RN7OveTPq6dkVh)
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The real question is why aren't people abusing DMT for its hallucinogenic properties?
They are
Because you need to be dying for it to work. Think of it like balancing on the edge of the side walk, only if you touch the street, your heart stops for good.
Not true. DMT can be made. When in a pure form its a white powder that is smoked. you trip for 10 - 20 minutes. I personally have never tried it because I'm kinda afraid... and I have done acid multiple times. A friend of mine claimed she forgot to breathe while on DMT and came out of her trip gasping for air. I have heard it basically is an out of body trip that is so intense you cannot even move because of how hard you are tripping.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine)
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DMT is supposedly a chemical hallucination that is released in your brain as you are dying. This is why some people that have died and returned, have claim to have flash-backs, or near death experiences.
What could this mean? We are already dead (or dying) and what we are experiencing now is a flashback induced by the DMT, which we are bound to experience over and over for eternity.
OR
This actually is the first time we have lived, so you better be satisfied with the way you have lived your life, because you may have to relive it for eternity.
Sounds suspiciously like the movie Jacobs Ladder.
Berny
Eating my shawarma
shoarma??
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTq4rOjrhnbMGMAFv-WeRf5aaSK-iYa6v3QfhUpGWWFyVSBHM-XMg)
Shawarma
Berny
Didn't eat the whole thing just a sandwich
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQki-wYsIwUzxnIkxIoX9F_28fp_ufzJNKEn_RN7OveTPq6dkVh)
Does it taste like a doner kebab? It looks very similar.
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The real question is why aren't people abusing DMT for its hallucinogenic properties?
What makes you think they aren't?
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The real question is why aren't people abusing DMT for its hallucinogenic properties?
What makes you think they aren't?
LOL read two posts above you are pretty late
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The real question is why aren't people abusing DMT for its hallucinogenic properties?
They are
Because you need to be dying for it to work. Think of it like balancing on the edge of the side walk, only if you touch the street, your heart stops for good.
Not true. DMT can be made. When in a pure form its a white powder that is smoked. you trip for 10 - 20 minutes. I personally have never tried it because I'm kinda afraid... and I have done acid multiple times. A friend of mine claimed she forgot to breathe while on DMT and came out of her trip gasping for air. I have heard it basically is an out of body trip that is so intense you cannot even move because of how hard you are tripping.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine)
Very informative. Thank you.
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The real question is why aren't people abusing DMT for its hallucinogenic properties?
They are
Because you need to be dying for it to work. Think of it like balancing on the edge of the side walk, only if you touch the street, your heart stops for good.
Not true. DMT can be made. When in a pure form its a white powder that is smoked. you trip for 10 - 20 minutes. I personally have never tried it because I'm kinda afraid... and I have done acid multiple times. A friend of mine claimed she forgot to breathe while on DMT and came out of her trip gasping for air. I have heard it basically is an out of body trip that is so intense you cannot even move because of how hard you are tripping.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iUpoNBZyaBc/TEcbvduYlGI/AAAAAAAAD-I/UDl906VR_eg/s1600/Fuck+the+acid+is+kicking+in.jpg)
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o.O love that picture
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No, I don't really think so. How the fuck would that even work?
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Placebo affect. When you reach the end of your life in the flashback, you have a flashback. Mathematically speaking, it's possible. Think of it like inception. The further down you go, the slower life gets.
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DMT is supposedly a chemical hallucination that is released in your brain as you are dying. This is why some people that have died and returned, have claim to have flash-backs, or near death experiences.
What could this mean? We are already dead (or dying) and what we are experiencing now is a flashback induced by the DMT, which we are bound to experience over and over for eternity.
OR
This actually is the first time we have lived, so you better be satisfied with the way you have lived your life, because you may have to relive it for eternity.
Sounds suspiciously like the movie Jacobs Ladder.
Berny
Eating my shawarma
shoarma??
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTq4rOjrhnbMGMAFv-WeRf5aaSK-iYa6v3QfhUpGWWFyVSBHM-XMg)
Shawarma
Berny
Didn't eat the whole thing just a sandwich
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQki-wYsIwUzxnIkxIoX9F_28fp_ufzJNKEn_RN7OveTPq6dkVh)
Does it taste like a doner kebab? It looks very similar.
I think it is similar. It is a problem of linguistics. Around here a "donair" is like an anglicized "gyro" using beef instead of lamb and a sweet sauce instead of tzatziki. Shawarma is chicken on the "kebab", with distinctly arabic spices.
But the reality is all meat is good on a spit.
And wrapped in bread.
Berny
Fulfills the need for the munchies.
(fulfills part of the OP if we're talking about narcotics eh? The Gyro stands close really late on the weekend)
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Please stay away from buying DMT. It is bad like most drugs.
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Please stay away from buying DMT. It is bad like most drugs.
<3
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Placebo affect. When you reach the end of your life in the flashback, you have a flashback. Mathematically speaking, it's possible. Think of it like inception. The further down you go, the slower life gets.
Ah, so a flashback within a flashback within a flashback? Not really a placebo effect though.
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Placebo affect. When you reach the end of your life in the flashback, you have a flashback. Mathematically speaking, it's possible. Think of it like inception. The further down you go, the slower life gets.
Ah, so a flashback within a flashback within a flashback? Not really a placebo effect though.
It is true. When you are about to die, you have a flashback. When you get to the end of that flashback, what is the last thing that occurs in your memory? A flashback. Happens over and over.
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Yeah...I doubt that.
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Yeah...I doubt that.
If we are correct about DMT, it is true,
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Yeah...I doubt that.
You have no proof against, other than the fact that the electrons in your brain can only move but so fast. It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time
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Yeah...I doubt that.
If we are correct about DMT, it is true,
If. And if you are correct that for some reason it goes through some ridiculous loop of flashbacks forever, which is in no way suggested at all by it.
Yeah...I doubt that.
You have no proof against, other than the fact that the electrons in your brain can only move but so fast. It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time
First I'm going to get out the necessary "you also can't prove there aren't magical fairies in your garden" point. Burden of proof, guise. And then again, there is no reason to believe that there is a ridiculous neverending loop of flashbacks. This isn't Inception or something.
Though while you're at it I suppose you can add "also at the end of your life you can go into people's dreams and pull a brain heist!" and it won't be any less logical, so...
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Yeah...I doubt that.
You have no proof against, other than the fact that the electrons in your brain can only move but so fast. It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time
First I'm going to get out the necessary "you also can't prove there aren't magical fairies in your garden" point. Burden of proof, guise. And then again, there is no reason to believe that there is a ridiculous neverending loop of flashbacks. This isn't Inception or something.
Though while you're at it I suppose you can add "also at the end of your life you can go into people's dreams and pull a brain heist!" and it won't be any less logical, so...
The difference this isn't just some crazy theory that someone made up when they were sitting around. It is based off the fact that some scientists believe that the chemical DMT created by the brain is the reason why some people report to have flashbacks when they are about to die.
To assert that there is a loop of flashbacks is the next logical step. Lets say you are dying, the DMT kicks in, and you have a flashback and you walk through your life all over again. Then when it comes to that point when you are about to die, what is the last thing you experience? A flashback. So you experience that too.
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That's assuming that a flashback is a linear experience in which you live trough ALL of your life again.
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Placebo affect. When you reach the end of your life in the flashback, you have a flashback. Mathematically speaking, it's possible. Think of it like inception. The further down you go, the slower life gets.
Ah, so a flashback within a flashback within a flashback? Not really a placebo effect though.
It is true. When you are about to die, you have a flashback. When you get to the end of that flashback, what is the last thing that occurs in your memory? A flashback. Happens over and over.
What if you're shot in the head at point blank range without warning?
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No clue. You fade into the dark abyss.
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Yeah...I doubt that.
You have no proof against, other than the fact that the electrons in your brain can only move but so fast. It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time
First I'm going to get out the necessary "you also can't prove there aren't magical fairies in your garden" point. Burden of proof, guise. And then again, there is no reason to believe that there is a ridiculous neverending loop of flashbacks. This isn't Inception or something.
Though while you're at it I suppose you can add "also at the end of your life you can go into people's dreams and pull a brain heist!" and it won't be any less logical, so...
At what point did I say I believed it. If you read the whole post, you'd see I said "It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time"
which disproves the DMT idea, as a drug cannot speed up electrons. This only disproves his proof, not the theory. It is impossible to prove this doesn't happen, much like noone can prove that the soul doesn't exist in the religious sence
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The difference this isn't just some crazy theory that someone made up when they were sitting around. It is based off the fact that some scientists believe that the chemical DMT created by the brain is the reason why some people report to have flashbacks when they are about to die.
To assert that there is a loop of flashbacks is the next logical step. Lets say you are dying, the DMT kicks in, and you have a flashback and you walk through your life all over again. Then when it comes to that point when you are about to die, what is the last thing you experience? A flashback. So you experience that too.
Yes, but the point is you jump from "well, this could be why people have flashbacks" to "THE FLASHBACKS MAKE THEM RELIVE THEIR WHOLE LIFE AND REPEATS ON AN INFINITE LOOP".
Seriously. Nobody recounts that they watched themselves live for 60-some years during the flashback. It's pretty much always just a brief go-over of their life...and as far as I recall, nobody's reported going into limbo for thousands of years when they nearly died. Because even if they didn't actually die, they would still be in that loop.
At what point did I say I believed it. If you read the whole post, you'd see I said "It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time"
which disproves the DMT idea, as a drug cannot speed up electrons. This only disproves his proof, not the theory. It is impossible to prove this doesn't happen, much like noone can prove that the soul doesn't exist in the religious sence
Ahh alright, my bad then. I thought you were discounting that. But yes, then I agree. Though I think then, if it's that negligible then it's something not even worth arguing about as it pretty much is untrue.
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At what point did I say I believed it. If you read the whole post, you'd see I said "It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time"
which disproves the DMT idea, as a drug cannot speed up electrons. This only disproves his proof, not the theory. It is impossible to prove this doesn't happen, much like noone can prove that the soul doesn't exist in the religious sence
Ahh alright, my bad then. I thought you were discounting that. But yes, then I agree. Though I think then, if it's that negligible then it's something not even worth arguing about as it pretty much is untrue.
pretty much untrue here is synonymous with 99% fact
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You have no proof against, other than the fact that the electrons in your brain can only move but so fast. It simply cannot go through an entire lifetimes worth of configurations in any shorter amount of time
You'd be surprised. Obviously it wouldn't be an infinite cycle, but maybe two or three lives.
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In other words we're all living in the nightmare version of Inception.
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In other words we're all living in the nightmare version of Inception.
BRAAAUGN
Inception follows the same wholes though. Our sense of time is set by a certain part of our brain. In theory this could speed up, but it couldn't do this indefinitely.
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That last part of his his statements, about reliving your life..Is very interesting.
While It's not even close to what 'I' believe, the thought is entertaining. Paticularly, if we were to relive this, it would'nt be a big deal because we would not be conscious of it. OR if we were, we would be able to change our actions! Good food for thought there bruva.
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OR if we were, we would be able to change our actions! Good food for thought there bruva.
Sadly, we would not be able to change our actions, since our mind would just be replaying what we had experienced before. :(
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english gent have tried dmt? your theory is off, dmt is found in just about all organic life do moar research. hell grow a sack and try it repeatedly until you have a break through. you will certainly have a different view of what reality may or may not be. ive ate lots o shrooms, lots of lsd, NOTHING compares to what ive experienced thru dmt
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And somehow I don't value your opinion considering every one of your posts are complete nonsense.
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dmt is something i have direct personal knowledge of,i quit trolling the upper forums sometime back. dont care what you value but you are bviously talking bs about something you know little about so research moar as you fe fegs like to say and either fire some up or fuck off :-*
ps the machine elves say the earth is round, yes thats machine elf, google it
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Really? Do you have proof of this?
I am not basing this thread off of some druggie's anecdotes, I am basing it off scientific studies.
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now eg use the search engine you will find plenty of studies on dmt none of which adhere to you absurd theory we are dead already having a continual flashback so dont take my word for it. as far as being a druggie i assure you im probally more physically as well as mentally fit than the majority of regulars on this board.
just for the sake of discussion IF we were having an infinit cycle of flashbacks dont you think each one would be different due to the minds inability to record memories exactly correct? ask three people who shared a dinner and conversation a ffew days later to recount the event you will get three different stories.
would love to continue this conversation in a polite manner but for now have to go get a bid in to a homeowner get at you later
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If you read the thread, it has already been pointed out that the loop would not be infinite, but it is not unlikely that it could happen multiple times.
I can totally see that you are mentally fit. That is why you have shit for grammar and punctuation, right?
You don't know anyone on these boards, so how can you support your assertion that you are more fit in each way than them?
And yes, I do think it would be exactly the same each time. You inability to recall things has nothing to do with whether or not your brain actually recorded that memory. That only means you consciencely have trouble accessing it. When DMT is occurring, it is a direct access to your memories, it isn't you just trying to remember. You dinner example is irrelevant since you are only needing your own memories. What other people remember is irrelevant.
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The real question is why aren't people abusing DMT for its hallucinogenic properties?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_asphyxiation
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If you read the thread, it has already been pointed out that the loop would not be infinite, but it is not unlikely that it could happen multiple times.
I can totally see that you are mentally fit. That is why you have shit for grammar and punctuation, right?
You don't know anyone on these boards, so how can you support your assertion that you are more fit in each way than them?
And yes, I do think it would be exactly the same each time. You inability to recall things has nothing to do with whether or not your brain actually recorded that memory. That only means you consciencely have trouble accessing it. When DMT is occurring, it is a direct access to your memories, it isn't you just trying to remember. You dinner example is irrelevant since you are only needing your own memories. What other people remember is irrelevant.
this is a message board not english class. the point is you are discussing something you have no first hand knowledge of so fuck off engfag
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Please do not put words in my mouth. It is intellectually dishonest, not that I really expected you to understand anything that requires intelligence anyways.
I would never try to make a fallacious argument that lack of first hand knowledge makes an argument invalid. That is like saying I can't talk about helping orphans in Africa because I have never first handedly met them.
Your logic is ridiculous. I really doubt now that you even have the intellectual capacity equal to that of the average angry noob we get here.
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DMT is supposedly a chemical hallucination that is released in your brain as you are dying. This is why some people that have died and returned, have claim to have flash-backs, or near death experiences.
What could this mean? We are already dead (or dying) and what we are experiencing now is a flashback induced by the DMT, which we are bound to experience over and over for eternity.
OR
This actually is the first time we have lived, so you better be satisfied with the way you have lived your life, because you may have to relive it for eternity.
Sounds suspiciously like the movie Jacobs Ladder.
Berny
Eating my shawarma
shoarma??
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTq4rOjrhnbMGMAFv-WeRf5aaSK-iYa6v3QfhUpGWWFyVSBHM-XMg)
Shawarma
Berny
Didn't eat the whole thing just a sandwich
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQki-wYsIwUzxnIkxIoX9F_28fp_ufzJNKEn_RN7OveTPq6dkVh)
Those are so good. Omg now I'm hungry.
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Please do not put words in my mouth. It is intellectually dishonest, not that I really expected you to understand anything that requires intelligence anyways.
I would never try to make a fallacious argument that lack of first hand knowledge makes an argument invalid. That is like saying I can't talk about helping orphans in Africa because I have never first handedly met them.
Your logic is ridiculous. I really doubt now that you even have the intellectual capacity equal to that of the average angry noob we get here.
o no my intelligence has been insulted, you fool you take your self & this site too seriously, you think that you are superior intellects because you have the true knowledge that the earth is flat. the truth is you are a joke, another internet nerd. stew on that homie. ps there are no orphan africans the pictures and news stories are fake its just a way for the conspiracy to get mo money thru donations to mislead us about the shape of the earth. see you when i get bored bitches
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I always love it when angry noobs go out kicking and screaming.
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I always love it when angry noobs go out kicking and screaming.
rawr angry noob rage
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GUESS WHAT??? YOUR DUMB BECAUSE YOU THINK TEH EARTH IS FLAT!
{insert noun} DOESN'T ACTUALLY EXIST, IT IS ALL A CONSPIRACY!
MY SATIRE IS FUNNY AND ORIGINAL, SO SUCK IT!
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The earth is a cube!
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The earth is a cube!
EARTH HAS 4 CORNER
SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY
TIME CUBE
IN ONLY 24 HOUR ROTATION.
4 CORNER DAYS, CUBES 4 QUAD EARTH- No 1 Day God.
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GUESS WHAT??? YOUR DUMB BECAUSE YOU THINK TEH EARTH IS FLAT!
{insert noun} DOESN'T ACTUALLY EXIST, IT IS ALL A CONSPIRACY!
MY SATIRE IS FUNNY AND ORIGINAL, SO SUCK IT!
I wanted to post that one but too lazy to search
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I think if it is true that some people have a flashback relooping of all their life, that it would be more of an negative entropic effect whereby, each time it loops it gets fuzzier and faster than the last like when you cut a holographic film into 4 equal parts, it gets small and degrades in quality, until the loop effect is so insignificant it infinitesimally dissipates from ones conscious awareness