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Title: Land Speed Record
Post by: Thork on February 07, 2011, 07:16:46 AM: This has traditionally been a 3 horse race, with the French surrendering very early on, as usual.

FRANCE UK USA
Date Record Holder Place MPH
1898 JEANTAUD (Gaston de Chasseloup- Laubat) Acheres 39.24
1899 JENATZY (Camille Jenatzy) Acheres 41.42
1899 JEANTAUD (Gaston deChasseloup- Laubat) Acheres 43.69
1899 JENATZY (Camille Jenatzy) Acheres 49.92
1899 JEANTAUD (Gaston deChasseloup- Laubat) Acheres 57.60
1899 JENATZY (Camille Jenatzy) Acheres 65.79
1902 SERPOLLET (L?on Serpollet) Nice 75.06
1902 MORS (William K.Vanderbilt) Ablis 76.08
1902 MORS (Henri Fournier) Ablis 76.60
1902 MORS (Augieres) Ablis 77.13
1903 GOBRON BRILLI? (Arthur Duray) Ostend 83.47
1903 GOBRON BRILLI? (Arthur Duray) Dourdan 84.73
1904 FORD ARROW (Henry Ford) Lake St. Clair 91.37
1904 MERCEDES (William K Vanderbilt) Daytona 92.30
1904 GOBRON BRILLI? (Louis Rigolly) Nice 94.78
1904 MERCEDES (Pierre de Caters) Ostend 97.25
1904 GOBRON BRILLI? (Louis Rigolly) Ostend 103.55
1904 DARRACQ (Paul Baras) Ostend 104.52
1905 NAPIER (Arther E MacDonald) Daytona 104.65
1905 DARRACQ (Victor H?mery) Arles-Salon 109.65
1906 STANLEY (Fred Marriot) Daytona 121.57
1909 BENZ (Victor H?mery) Brooklands 125.95
1910 BENZ (Barney Oldfield) Daytona 131.275
1911 BENZ (Bob Burman) Daytona 141.37
1914 BENZ (L.G.Hornsted) Brooklands 124.10
1919 PACKARD (Ralph de Palma) Daytona 149.875
1920 DUESENBERG (Tommy Milton) Daytona 156.03
1922 SUNBEAM (K.L. Guinness) Brooklands 133.75
1924 DELAGE (R?ne Thomas) Arpajon 143.31
1924 FIAT (Ernest Eldridge) Arpajon 146.01
1924 SUNBEAM (Malcolm Campbell) Pendine 146.16
1925 SUNBEAM (Malcolm Campbell) Pendine 150.76
1926 SUNBEAM (Henry Segrave) Southport 152.33
1926 BABS HIGHAM SPECIAL (Parry Thomas) Pendine 169.30
1926 BABS HIGHAM SPECIAL (Parry Thomas) Pendine 171.02
1927 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell) Pendine 174.883
1927 SUNBEAM (Henry Segrave) Daytona 203.792
1928 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell) Daytona 206.956
1928 WHITE TRIPLEX (Ray Keech) Daytona 207.552
1929 GOLDEN ARROW (Henry Segrave) Daytona 231.446
1931 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell) Daytona 246.09
1932 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell) Daytona 253.97
1933 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell) Daytona 272.46
1935 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell) Daytona 276.82
1935 BLUEBIRD (Malcolm Campbell) Bonneville 301.129
1937 THUNDERBOLT (George Eyston) Bonneville 312.00
1938 THUNDERBOLT (George Eyston) Bonneville 345.50
1938 RAILTON MOBIL SPECIAL (John Cobb) Bonneville 350.20
1938 THUNDERBOLT (George Eyston) Bonneville 357.50
1939 RAILTON MOBIL SPECIAL (John Cobb) Bonneville 369.70
1947 RAILTON MOBIL SPECIAL (John Cobb) Bonneville 394.20
1963 SPIRIT OF AMERICA (Craig Breedlove) Bonneville 407.45
1964 BLUEBIRD (Donald Campbell) Lake Eyre 403.10
1964 WINGFOOT EXPRESS (Green) Bonneville 413.20
1964 GREEN MONSTER (Art Arfons) Bonneville 434.02
1964 SPIRIT OF AMERICA (Craig Breedlove) Bonneville 468.72
1964 SPIRIT OF AMERICA (Craig Breedlove) Bonneville 526.28
1964 GREEN MONSTER (Art Arfons) Bonneville 536.71
1965 SPIRIT OF AMERICA. SONIC 1 (Craig Breedlove) Bonneville 555.483
1965 GREEN MONSTER (Art Arfons) Bonneville 576.553
1965 GOLDENROD (Summers brothers) Bonneville 409.277 (wheel driven )
2001 TURBINATOR (Don Vesco) 458.440 (wheel driven)
1965 SPIRIT OF AMERICA. SONIC 1 (Craig Breedlove) Bonneville 600.601
1970 THE BLUE FLAME (Gary Gabelich) Bonneville 622.407
1983 THRUST 2 (Richard Noble) Black Rock 633.468
1997 THRUST SSC (Andy Green) Black Rock 714.144
1997 THRUST SSC (Andy Green) Black Rock 763.035

The record is currently held by those engineering wizards, the Brits.
However the US are unhappy and so are building this ...
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/north-american-eagle-14.jpg)
Its aim, to be a bit quicker and reach 808 mph.

But as with Thrust SCC, where humiliating the Americans is not enough so they went for the sound barrier, the Brits are going to try and heap more pain on the merkins.
(http://www.myautomovil.com/uploads/img/2310-bloodhound-project1p_th_2.jpg) (http://www.myautomovil.com/uploads/img/2310-bloodhound-logo.jpg)
They are going for the 1000 mph mark. They also have a cool logo.

World leaders in the brains department.
(http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/british-bulldog.jpg)

That is all.
EDIT: I should qualify that I wasn't just needlessly spouting off about how wonderful the British are again. It is topical. :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12383551
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: Kira-SY on February 07, 2011, 07:42:30 AM: They really worked hard on that logo.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: Trekky0623 on February 07, 2011, 08:20:41 AM: What new technologies and ideas will going really fucking fast bring us?

Oh wait...nothing. It's just really fucking cool.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: EnglshGentleman on February 07, 2011, 12:11:24 PM: The land speed record is so stupid. :P

It is pretty much just whoever can strap the biggest rocket to a car, and make sure that it doesn't accidentally lift off.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: Hazbollah on February 07, 2011, 01:21:42 PM: Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 07, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
The land speed record is so stupid. :P

It is pretty much just whoever can strap the biggest rocket to a car, and make sure that it doesn't accidentally lift off.
But the balance between downforce and speed is a difficult one to get right.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: Wendy on February 07, 2011, 02:26:47 PM: lol, symbolism. Long, glistening cars penetrating that sound barrier. How many female drivers have attempted this?
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: Thork on February 09, 2011, 06:14:19 AM: Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 07, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
The land speed record is so stupid. :P

It is pretty much just whoever can strap the biggest rocket to a car, and make sure that it doesn't accidentally lift off.
Yes, but the answer to that is 'the British'. We can strap a jet engine to a car better than anyone else on the planet. Others have tried. Most notably the Americans, but the British are just better at it.

Quote from: Hazbollah on February 07, 2011, 01:21:42 PM
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 07, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
The land speed record is so stupid. :P

It is pretty much just whoever can strap the biggest rocket to a car, and make sure that it doesn't accidentally lift off.
But the balance between downforce and speed is a difficult one to get right.
He wouldn't understand. Only the British are able to master this.

Quote from: Wendy on February 07, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
lol, symbolism. Long, glistening cars penetrating that sound barrier. How many female drivers have attempted this?
This is a thread about the Land Speed Record which those clever Brits are going to smash again. Please keep your RM thoughts away from my engineering thread.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: markjo on February 09, 2011, 07:24:52 AM: Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 06:14:19 AM
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 07, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
The land speed record is so stupid. :P

It is pretty much just whoever can strap the biggest rocket to a car, and make sure that it doesn't accidentally lift off.
Yes, but the answer to that is 'the British'. We can strap a jet engine to a car better than anyone else on the planet. Others have tried. Most notably the Americans, but the British are just better at it.

Quote from: Hazbollah on February 07, 2011, 01:21:42 PM
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 07, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
The land speed record is so stupid. :P

It is pretty much just whoever can strap the biggest rocket to a car, and make sure that it doesn't accidentally lift off.
But the balance between downforce and speed is a difficult one to get right.
He wouldn't understand. Only the British are able to master this.

Quote from: Wendy on February 07, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
lol, symbolism. Long, glistening cars penetrating that sound barrier. How many female drivers have attempted this?
This is a thread about the Land Speed Record which those clever Brits are going to smash again. Please keep your RM thoughts away from my engineering thread.

I don't think that it's as much a matter of British "cleverness" or "mastery". I think that it's more a matter of who's project is better funded.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: Thork on February 09, 2011, 07:40:31 AM: Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 07:24:52 AM
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 06:14:19 AM
Quote from: Wendy on February 07, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
lol, symbolism. Long, glistening cars penetrating that sound barrier. How many female drivers have attempted this?
This is a thread about the Land Speed Record which those clever Brits are going to smash again. Please keep your RM thoughts away from my engineering thread.

I don't think that it's as much a matter of British "cleverness" or "mastery". I think that it's more a matter of who's project is better funded.

Bullshit! How offensive. Don't rubbish the wonderful achievements of my countrymen. The nation throwing cash at the problem is the US. Always has been. From 1997 ...
Quote from: http://www.richard-noble.com/
As an example The ThrustSSC team found itself head to head with both well funded American and Formula 1 teams. ... The Spirit of America team were reputed to have a $14m budget. The ThrustSSC team carried out the entire programme on a cash spend of 2.85m GBP
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: markjo on February 09, 2011, 12:50:04 PM: Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 07:40:31 AM
Bullshit! How offensive. Don't rubbish the wonderful achievements of my countrymen. The nation throwing cash at the problem is the US. Always has been. From 1997 ...
Quote from: http://www.richard-noble.com/
As an example The ThrustSSC team found itself head to head with both well funded American and Formula 1 teams. ... The Spirit of America team were reputed to have a $14m budget. The ThrustSSC team carried out the entire programme on a cash spend of 2.85m GBP

Spirit of America team may have been well funded, but North American Eagle team is not.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: Thork on February 09, 2011, 02:08:46 PM: Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 12:50:04 PM
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 07:40:31 AM
Bullshit! How offensive. Don't rubbish the wonderful achievements of my countrymen. The nation throwing cash at the problem is the US. Always has been. From 1997 ...
Quote from: http://www.richard-noble.com/
As an example The ThrustSSC team found itself head to head with both well funded American and Formula 1 teams. ... The Spirit of America team were reputed to have a $14m budget. The ThrustSSC team carried out the entire programme on a cash spend of 2.85m GBP

Spirit of America team may have been well funded, but North American Eagle team is not.
So what? You suggested that only those with a large budget could be successful. I have shown you that the Brits managed to claim the last competition with less than a quarter of the budget. North American Eagle Team have yet to achieve anything lest we forget. I have a tiny budget for breaking the land speed record and my Renault is virtually unmodified. No one is taking my challenge seriously because I haven't yet put down a fast time. I will try again the next time I am on the M4. The point is despite the notable handicap of having a small budget the Brits triumphed last time. Who cares what the budget is? I think however the merkins will not be able to pull off the same trick. It reads quite grim for them

Quote from: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/features/article6915705.ece
The contrast between the two teams could not be greater. While the Bloodhound SSC (it stands for supersonic car) is the most advanced streamliner ever built and will cost around 6.3m GBP, Shadle has built his machine out of the rusty remains of a 1957 Lockheed F-104 Starfighter jet, bought for $25,000 (15,000 GBP at today's prices) from a scrapyard in 1998.

If I was a betting man ...

Anyway I would rather focus on the super achievements of the British, over the impending annihilation facing the US. Please note Bloodhound will still be around than half the cost of the failed Spirit of America.

(http://images8.cpcache.com/product_zoom/44037538v3_400x400_Front_Color-White.jpg)
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: markjo on February 09, 2011, 04:32:33 PM: Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 02:08:46 PM
You suggested that only those with a large budget could be successful.

When did I suggest that? ???
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: Thork on February 09, 2011, 04:34:24 PM: Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 04:32:33 PM
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 02:08:46 PM
You suggested that only those with a large budget could be successful.

When did I suggest that? ???

Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 07:24:52 AM
I don't think that it's as much a matter of British "cleverness" or "mastery". I think that it's more a matter of who's project is better funded.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: markjo on February 09, 2011, 04:58:44 PM: Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 04:34:24 PM
Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 04:32:33 PM
Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 02:08:46 PM
You suggested that only those with a large budget could be successful.

When did I suggest that? ???

Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 07:24:52 AM
I don't think that it's as much a matter of British "cleverness" or "mastery". I think that it's more a matter of who's project is better funded.

I said that money is a factor. I didn't say that it was the only factor. After all, supersonic travel is expensive regardless of the vehicle.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: Thork on February 09, 2011, 05:13:43 PM: Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 04:58:44 PM
I don't think that it's as much a matter of British "cleverness" or "mastery". I think that it's more a matter of who's project is better funded.

Quote from: markjo on February 09, 2011, 07:24:52 AM
I said that money is a factor. I didn't say that it was the only factor.
No, the other factors are cleverness and mastery. ::)

Stop trolling my thread and just admit the British are pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: markjo on February 09, 2011, 05:55:27 PM: Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 05:13:43 PM
No, the other factors are cleverness and mastery. ::)

Actually, the most important factor is determination. Don't worry, land speed records are made to be broken.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: Thork on February 09, 2011, 06:06:31 PM: Say it ....
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: markjo on February 09, 2011, 07:25:41 PM: It.

Now what?
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: fluffycornsnake on February 09, 2011, 08:04:50 PM: I heartily support this fine display of British excellence.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: Kira-SY on February 10, 2011, 01:15:11 AM: Quote from: Thork on February 09, 2011, 05:13:43 PM
Stop trolling my thread and just admit the British are pretty awesome.

I would, but you just need to lose that "ew" accent.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: Mr Pseudonym on February 10, 2011, 05:05:59 AM: Isn't this a great chance for someone to kill themself? Yeh, go Britain. ::)
Title: Re: Land Speed Record
Post by: Tausami on February 10, 2011, 07:45:36 PM: Question: do trains count?