The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth General => Topic started by: New Earth on January 25, 2011, 05:18:11 PM
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The future earth that the Lord will create at his appointed time will indeed be infinite. You may say why the infinite earth is better then a spherical globe? Well I will tell you exactly why. First of all how do we know that the new earth that God creates will be infinite in all directions? To answer that question we must turn to the book of Revelation and look at the description of New Jerusalem. If converted to miles, New Jerusalem is 1500 miles wide in all directions and also 1500 miles high. Obviously spherical earth can't contain such large city. When the bible says 1500 miles high, it refers to the heights of some of the buildings in that city. Spherical earth located in present universe, can't contain such high structures, they will literally have to extend into the earth's orbit which is impossible. So based on that we conclude that the new earth will not be in present space, but rather in the new universe, new space, another words, the earth will be vertically infinite as well. In this new universe there will be no other worlds but the infinite earth.
You may tell me, "you stupid troll this is not enough proof" Well are you ready for more? Bible also says that in New Jerusalem there will be no more sun. God will create another bran new source of light and energy for the world. As we know in our universe in our spherical model, a planet must have a star (sun) to inhabit life. So obviously this is another biblical proof that the infinite new earth is coming.
Now you may say to me, "you troll, why do we even need this infinite earth?" The answer is simple. Infinite Earth is a complete perfection of physical creation. It is the ultimate gift, an ultimate reward for the mankind. On infinite earth, gold, diamonds, oil, wood, gas, and all other resources and precious commodities will be unlimited for the size of the world will be unlimited. People talk about flying to distant planets and colonizing space to get more resources and to expand population, but why do all that if we can have an infinite earth, an entire universe created specifically for the mankind.
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spose you believe we are all inbred too and that people can live to 1000 years :o
its a book of morals not facts
what makes jesus so special if we are all gods children?
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Squevil I know perfect two places where they will agree with what you just posted. Cuba and North Korea.
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The bible alone is not proof of a flat earth.
What makes an infinite earth a perfect earth?
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I wouldn't call infinite earth flat. Something that is infinite can't really have shape. Infinite earth is better then finite globe for every single reason a human mind can imagine. Infinite Earth is paradise.
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I wouldn't call infinite earth flat. Something that is infinite can't really have shape. Infinite earth is better then finite globe for every single reason a human mind can imagine. Infinite Earth is paradise.
Why would an infinite earth be any more a paradise than the one we have now?
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People talk about flying to distant planets and colonizing space to get more resources and to expand population, but why do all that if we can have an infinite earth, an entire universe created specifically for the mankind.
As our space technology advances, this won't be such a problem. Given enough time you'll never think of travelling between planets as being a hard endeavour. We travel large distances in our cars every day - to someone before the age of the car, a perfect world would have been that which all resources were a stones throw away, not an infinite Earth.
But honestly, what does it even matter? I can think of hundreds of ways our lives could be easier and simpler, and an infinite Earth is nowhere near the top. If you're going to fantasize, at least do it right.
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its a book of morals not facts
That's certainly debatable, thought perhaps not in this forum. I would dare say that the degree and candidness of the many immoral acts in the bible by far outweigh the timid tidbits of basic morals that can be gleaned from this erroneous tome.
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If the bible is a book of morals then how come it gives precise measurements of the New Jerusalem, down to every detail?
Infinite earth is better then finite globe in every single way. Never run out of resources, limitless everything. Endless beauty, No shortages of anything, No need to go to empty space, no more dark voids and nothingness, perfect sun instead of radioactive star we have now. Cities larger then NYC by 100 times. Imagine all the things you can do? How can you compare a tiny little seven continent earth to infinite awesome earth? But don't worry about it my children, none of you are gonna make it there. ;D You will stay with this old earth, you will stay with what you have created, while I rule over new kingdoms.
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But don't worry about it my children, none of you are gonna make it there. ;D You will stay with this old earth, you will stay with what you have created, while I rule over new kingdoms.
Do you need the number to a suicide hotline?
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If the bible is a book of morals then how come it gives precise measurements of the New Jerusalem, down to every detail?
Infinite earth is better then finite globe in every single way. Never run out of resources, limitless everything. Endless beauty, No shortages of anything, No need to go to empty space, no more dark voids and nothingness, perfect sun instead of radioactive star we have now. Cities larger then NYC by 100 times. Imagine all the things you can do? How can you compare a tiny little seven continent earth to infinite awesome earth? But don't worry about it my children, none of you are gonna make it there. ;D You will stay with this old earth, you will stay with what you have created, while I rule over new kingdoms.
you are batshit insane.
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If the bible is a book of morals then how come it gives precise measurements of the New Jerusalem, down to every detail?
Infinite earth is better then finite globe in every single way. Never run out of resources, limitless everything. Endless beauty, No shortages of anything, No need to go to empty space, no more dark voids and nothingness, perfect sun instead of radioactive star we have now. Cities larger then NYC by 100 times. Imagine all the things you can do? How can you compare a tiny little seven continent earth to infinite awesome earth? But don't worry about it my children, none of you are gonna make it there. ;D You will stay with this old earth, you will stay with what you have created, while I rule over new kingdoms.
you are batshit insane.
Given the forum we're on, it can be argued that he's a free thinker which is worshipped in these parts.
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What's wrong with being a free thinker? And no I don't need a number to suicide hot line, I'm very content with my life. But am I insane? According to your bull shit science, YES I'm ;D
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Guys don't mess with New Earth. He's a thug. Used to be a Royal, if you will, when he was 16. Meet up with him offline and ohhhh boy you are so done for.
He also has mad rap skills.
its a book of morals not facts
That's certainly debatable, thought perhaps not in this forum. I would dare say that the degree and candidness of the many immoral acts in the bible by far outweigh the timid tidbits of basic morals that can be gleaned from this erroneous tome.
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What's wrong with being a free thinker?
Nothing, but there's a fine line between free thinking and insanity.
lol gotta love Supertails' siggy ;D
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And no I don't need a number to suicide hot line, I'm very content with my life.
I think he was making a reference to Heaven's Gate...
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I wouldn't call infinite earth flat. Something that is infinite can't really have shape. Infinite earth is better then finite globe for every single reason a human mind can imagine. Infinite Earth is paradise.
Why would an infinite earth be any more a paradise than the one we have now?
There's more of it.
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There's more of it.
A mansion is more difficult to keep clean than a trailer. Unless you think of it as unlimited space for garbage.
As far as I'm concerned, we're living in as close to paradise as we will get unless we clean up our acts and learn to respect our environment. Using the hands and brains God gave us for this very reason, we can look after our planet and each other. We certainly weren't given our brains to daydream about future infinite earths that only manifest in the minds of one ancient author and his modern followers. That's wasteful, and ignorant to our responsibilities as masters of this Earth as God intended us to be. Everything I can imagine doing can be done here.
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There's more of it.
A mansion is more difficult to keep clean than a trailer. Unless you think of it as unlimited space for garbage.
As far as I'm concerned, we're living in as close to paradise as we will get unless we clean up our acts and learn to respect our environment. Using the hands and brains God gave us for this very reason, we can look after our planet and each other. We certainly weren't given our brains to daydream about future infinite earths that only manifest in the minds of one ancient author and his modern followers. That's wasteful, and ignorant to our responsibilities as masters of this Earth as God intended us to be. Everything I can imagine doing can be done here.
Don't tell me that a planet that is only 29 percent dry land is paradise. On infinite earth you will have waterfalls of fine chocolate and palaces of purest gold, the laws of physics will be different, improved to give mankind ultimate luxury and freedom. Can't you see that this current world is a prison? Paradise my ass, this is hell, especially this new generation, they have respect for nothing, they are the flakiest most irresponsible generation ever. Both women and men lost their humanity and sold their souls to vanity and image. You call this paradise Nolkeh? This world is brainwashed by all kinds of isms and judgmental attitudes that will eventually result in World War III Just look at this forum for instance; people are acting like total degenerates. They make fun of my past, they don't know hard it is for a young hustler to get out of the hood and actually go to college. I did all that. I pulled myself out of the gang and I went to school. So go ahead you trust fund brats, laugh your ass off, laugh at rap music and embrace your lame geek shit and your stupid suburban life style, I understand you never had to kill, steal or hustle cause your parents wiped your asses all your life, you are right I'm not a thug, cause I made something with my life. If this world is paradise to you, you will stay with this world. Good luck to you. I suggest that you guys practice surfing, cause a thousand foot tidal wave is coming your way pretty soon.
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"laugh at rap music and embrace your lame geek shit"
all i listen to is rap and hip hop but i also get called a geek lots too. i would love to go to LA to see dilated peoples. we all have dreams, mine just isnt reaching heaven
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Don't tell me that a planet that is only 29 percent dry land is paradise. On infinite earth you will have waterfalls of fine chocolate and palaces of purest gold, the laws of physics will be different, improved to give mankind ultimate luxury and freedom. Can't you see that this current world is a prison? Paradise my ass, this is hell, especially this new generation, they have respect for nothing, they are the flakiest most irresponsible generation ever. Both women and men lost their humanity and sold their souls to vanity and image. You call this paradise Nolkeh? This world is brainwashed by all kinds of isms and judgmental attitudes that will eventually result in World War III Just look at this forum for instance; people are acting like total degenerates. They make fun of my past, they don't know hard it is for a young hustler to get out of the hood and actually go to college. I did all that. I pulled myself out of the gang and I went to school. So go ahead you trust fund brats, laugh your ass off, laugh at rap music and embrace your lame geek shit and your stupid suburban life style, I understand you never had to kill, steal or hustle cause your parents wiped your asses all your life, you are right I'm not a thug, cause I made something with my life. If this world is paradise to you, you will stay with this world. Good luck to you. I suggest that you guys practice surfing, cause a thousand foot tidal wave is coming your way pretty soon.
So you have given up hope that this world, created by god, and all of us, his children can be saved? We can't clean up our room, so you think God's going to give us a better one? No. We have a responsibility to God to clean up this world that God created for us. It is a paradise. It's perfectly suited for human life, since it's where we've evolved. We've just thrown our garbage on the floor, and fought over what parts belong to who, when we could be learning to keep it clean and share fairly. When that's achieved, we can have true paradise. At that point, a thousand foot tidal wave is no match for the combined ingenuity of a united human race.
we all have dreams, mine just isnt reaching heaven
This attitude won't help
Moderators should probably move this thread to a more appropriate location.
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The bible is very clear of what is going to happen to this world. The book of Revelation clearly says that there will be new heaven and new earth. It says that the former things will not be remembered or come to mind. God says "Look I create everything new" Do you want me to quote verses?
Let me just give you few facts here; Yes originally this planet was suited for life, but this planet is not meant to have the population of six billion people. This huge world population causes poverty, unemployment, hunger, diseases, violence, just about every social problem comes from it. The ideal population number for earth is roughly 1 billion people.
You said that humanity will unite to create paradise? Dude the 60's are over, face reality. People of the world hate each other, thanks to capitalism, racism, religion, and much more. Yes you heard me right, I don't like religions, I like the bible and I believe in God but I don't like organized religion. Jesus was never religious, he was spiritual, that is a big difference.
No people will never unite, in America people are conditioned to cut each other throats for money, they compete day and night and worship the dollar, they will never create paradise. They have created hell on earth for each other and treat each other like obstacles. The world is now under the system of globalism which basically mean hyper capitalism. We have more problems on earth then ever before. No my friend, there will be new world, one infinite earth and the swine of this world will not be allowed to enter.
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Haha, you said proof and bible in the same sentence without saying lack of.
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Yes originally this planet was suited for life, but this planet is not meant to have the population of six billion people. This huge world population causes poverty, unemployment, hunger, diseases, violence, just about every social problem comes from it. The ideal population number for earth is roughly 1 billion people.
>implying poverty, unemployment, hunger, diseases, violence didn't exist when there were 1 billion people
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The bible is very clear of what is going to happen to this world. The book of Revelation clearly says that there will be new heaven and new earth. It says that the former things will not be remembered or come to mind. God says "Look I create everything new" Do you want me to quote verses?
YES! Let's start quoting bible verses!!
I'll start!
(Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
(Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.
Ok, now you go!
If you take quotes in the bible literally, you are seriously mentally disabled and as delusional as it gets. Please seek help from a professional immediately as you may be a threat to yourself and those around you.
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Take religious polemic to the sub-forum where it belongs. The upper fora are for Flat Earth Theory.
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Take religious polemic to the sub-forum where it belongs. The upper fora are for Flat Earth Theory.
Then shouldn't this thread be moved or locked?
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Take religious polemic to the sub-forum where it belongs. The upper fora are for Flat Earth Theory.
Allright I said what I had to say, You can go ahead and delete the entire thread now. People are just trolling now anyways, I will not burden you with bible anymore since no one here believes.
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I also imagine Infinite new earth as the meeting point of all possible parallel earths. So basically there will be current cities on that earth but a lot larger in size, such as New Paris or New Chicago. There will be present continents there but also they are going to be a lot larger. North America is probably going be 10 thousand miles across, Europe will be also ten times its present size. But this is just a little tiny portion of an infinite earth. There will be trillions of continents some extremely exotic where gold and diamonds will be as common as sand and rocks. Because laws of physics will be changed and perfected, precious stones will be even more brilliant and gold will be 40 or 50K, now that is amazing. The world will be limitless so there will be no shortages of anything. There will be portal technology available that can connect with you distant continents in a matter of seconds. Speed of thought which is a lot faster then speed of light will be available to travel to the lands which are light years away.
As I said before this infinite earth will serve as convergence point of all possible worlds, so for example when you walk into a Mercedes dealerships there you are going to be able to choose from thousands of different models, let's say you have a favorite music artist but he only made few albums and you always wanted to hear more, in this new earth you will able to go to music store and get thousands of his albums, that were never released in our current reality. This infinite earth will draw things directly from the multiverse. Now which one of you still thinks this present earth is better? LOL
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I also imagine Infinite new earth as the meeting point of all possible parallel earths. So basically there will be current cities on that earth but a lot larger in size, such as New Paris or New Chicago. There will be present continents there but also they are going to be a lot larger. North America is probably going be 10 thousand miles across, Europe will be also ten times its present size. But this is just a little tiny portion of an infinite earth. There will be trillions of continents some extremely exotic where gold and diamonds will be as common as sand and rocks. Because laws of physics will be changed and perfected, precious stones will be even more brilliant and gold will be 40 or 50K, now that is amazing. The world will be limitless so there will be no shortages of anything. There will be portal technology available that can connect with you distant continents in a matter of seconds. Speed of thought which is a lot faster then speed of light will be available to travel to the lands which are light years away.
As I said before this infinite earth will serve as convergence point of all possible worlds, so for example when you walk into a Mercedes dealerships there you are going to be able to choose from thousands of different models, let's say you have a favorite music artist but he only made few albums and you always wanted to hear more, in this new earth you will able to go to music store and get thousands of his albums, that were never released in our current reality. This infinite earth will draw things directly from the multiverse. Now which one of you still thinks this present earth is better? LOL
This is a nice bedtime story. And actually has a shred of possibility when considering the multiverse theory.
When do you "imagine" that all of this is to take place? Is all of what you wrote in your imagination or has any of what you just said been taught to you by an authority on the subject?
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Yes its just all my imagination, but Einstein said that "Imagination is more important then Knowledge" You see he understood that our thoughts, our imagination is what gives birth to entire physical reality. We are divine beings and our imagination can create an entire new universe.
I'm glad that you liked my convergence point idea Romer.
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Yes its just all my imagination, but Einstein said that "Imagination is more important then Knowledge" You see he understood that our thoughts, our imagination is what gives birth to entire physical reality. We are divine beings and our imagination can create an entire new universe.
I'm glad that you liked my convergence point idea Romer.
Well here is the full quote:
I believe in intuition and inspiration. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution. It is, strictly speaking, a real factor in scientific research.
The way I interpret this is that in order to prove something is possible that has not yet been thought of or proposed, one must first imagine the possibility of such thing, and then use the available resources and knowledge to prove what was just imagined is possible or viable.
Not,
I imagined something, therefore it must be so.
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I understand what you are saying. But there is no way I can scientifically prove to you the possible existence of an infinite earth where all possible worlds converge under one reality. I just want you to admit that the idea is awesome thou.
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I understand what you are saying. But there is no way I can scientifically prove to you the possible existence of an infinite earth where all possible worlds converge under one reality. I just want you to admit that the idea is awesome thou.
It depends where this idea is taking place. Is it in the afterlife? Or does it already exist in a parallel universe?
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Its not in the after life, its in a parallel physical universe.
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Its not in the after life, its in a parallel physical universe.
How do you plan to get there?
I see your imagination has found its way already...
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If the story of Montauk Project and UFO technology is true, then getting there physically is possible. You see at Montauk they learned that our imagination is not really fantasy but rather reception of another reality. It was discovered that human mind can't really imagine things out of thin air. So if we can dream it, it actually already exists somewhere in the multiverse. Every UFO investigator and every whistle blower has been reporting the same thing, even dating back to Roswell days, and that is that UFO's are not equipped with mechanical parts like our rockets or airplanes are, rather UFO's are propelled by thought. A pilot must imagine very clearly in his mind the exact place where he wants to go and ship immediately takes you there. So basically in order for me to go to this place I described I must get a hold of thought propelled ship. The odds that I will ever even see one needless to say fly in one, are very unlikely. :-\
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I used to imagine my high school being attacked by romulans. So did this actually happen in another reality?
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You imagined an event, not a place. So No it never happened in another reality. I guess I was not clear enough when I posted about thought speed ships. if you imagine an event, the ship will not take you there, its only when you focus on a specific place in your mind or imagine a place, that's when it takes you there.
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I also imagine Infinite new earth as the meeting point of all possible parallel earths. So basically there will be current cities on that earth but a lot larger in size, such as New Paris or New Chicago. There will be present continents there but also they are going to be a lot larger. North America is probably going be 10 thousand miles across, Europe will be also ten times its present size. But this is just a little tiny portion of an infinite earth. There will be trillions of continents some extremely exotic where gold and diamonds will be as common as sand and rocks. Because laws of physics will be changed and perfected, precious stones will be even more brilliant and gold will be 40 or 50K, now that is amazing. The world will be limitless so there will be no shortages of anything. There will be portal technology available that can connect with you distant continents in a matter of seconds. Speed of thought which is a lot faster then speed of light will be available to travel to the lands which are light years away.
As I said before this infinite earth will serve as convergence point of all possible worlds, so for example when you walk into a Mercedes dealerships there you are going to be able to choose from thousands of different models, let's say you have a favorite music artist but he only made few albums and you always wanted to hear more, in this new earth you will able to go to music store and get thousands of his albums, that were never released in our current reality. This infinite earth will draw things directly from the multiverse. Now which one of you still thinks this present earth is better? LOL
all bolded items could be considered 'events' and not places.
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Those are not events. Those are the features of an infinite earth. If I said "Europe got attacked by Aliens" that's an event, music stores and car dealerships are features.
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There's more of it.
A mansion is more difficult to keep clean than a trailer. Unless you think of it as unlimited space for garbage.
As far as I'm concerned, we're living in as close to paradise as we will get unless we clean up our acts and learn to respect our environment. Using the hands and brains God gave us for this very reason, we can look after our planet and each other. We certainly weren't given our brains to daydream about future infinite earths that only manifest in the minds of one ancient author and his modern followers. That's wasteful, and ignorant to our responsibilities as masters of this Earth as God intended us to be. Everything I can imagine doing can be done here.
Don't tell me that a planet that is only 29 percent dry land is paradise. On infinite earth you will have waterfalls of fine chocolate and palaces of purest gold, the laws of physics will be different, improved to give mankind ultimate luxury and freedom. Can't you see that this current world is a prison? Paradise my ass, this is hell, especially this new generation, they have respect for nothing, they are the flakiest most irresponsible generation ever. Both women and men lost their humanity and sold their souls to vanity and image. You call this paradise Nolkeh? This world is brainwashed by all kinds of isms and judgmental attitudes that will eventually result in World War III Just look at this forum for instance; people are acting like total degenerates. They make fun of my past, they don't know hard it is for a young hustler to get out of the hood and actually go to college. I did all that. I pulled myself out of the gang and I went to school. So go ahead you trust fund brats, laugh your ass off, laugh at rap music and embrace your lame geek shit and your stupid suburban life style, I understand you never had to kill, steal or hustle cause your parents wiped your asses all your life, you are right I'm not a thug, cause I made something with my life. If this world is paradise to you, you will stay with this world. Good luck to you. I suggest that you guys practice surfing, cause a thousand foot tidal wave is coming your way pretty soon.
You're batshit insane. So far, you're the only person on this entire forum that I dislike. If you want to argue religion, go to P, R&S.
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Take religious polemic to the sub-forum where it belongs. The upper fora are for Flat Earth Theory.
Allright I said what I had to say, You can go ahead and delete the entire thread now. People are just trolling now anyways, I will not burden you with bible anymore since no one here believes.
As long as the discussion is the Bible and Flat Earth there is no problem with the thread. If the two of you and/or others want to discuss religion and whether or not the Bible is true do it in the appropriate forum.
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There's more of it.
A mansion is more difficult to keep clean than a trailer. Unless you think of it as unlimited space for garbage.
As far as I'm concerned, we're living in as close to paradise as we will get unless we clean up our acts and learn to respect our environment. Using the hands and brains God gave us for this very reason, we can look after our planet and each other. We certainly weren't given our brains to daydream about future infinite earths that only manifest in the minds of one ancient author and his modern followers. That's wasteful, and ignorant to our responsibilities as masters of this Earth as God intended us to be. Everything I can imagine doing can be done here.
Don't tell me that a planet that is only 29 percent dry land is paradise. On infinite earth you will have waterfalls of fine chocolate and palaces of purest gold, the laws of physics will be different, improved to give mankind ultimate luxury and freedom. Can't you see that this current world is a prison? Paradise my ass, this is hell, especially this new generation, they have respect for nothing, they are the flakiest most irresponsible generation ever. Both women and men lost their humanity and sold their souls to vanity and image. You call this paradise Nolkeh? This world is brainwashed by all kinds of isms and judgmental attitudes that will eventually result in World War III Just look at this forum for instance; people are acting like total degenerates. They make fun of my past, they don't know hard it is for a young hustler to get out of the hood and actually go to college. I did all that. I pulled myself out of the gang and I went to school. So go ahead you trust fund brats, laugh your ass off, laugh at rap music and embrace your lame geek shit and your stupid suburban life style, I understand you never had to kill, steal or hustle cause your parents wiped your asses all your life, you are right I'm not a thug, cause I made something with my life. If this world is paradise to you, you will stay with this world. Good luck to you. I suggest that you guys practice surfing, cause a thousand foot tidal wave is coming your way pretty soon.
You're batshit insane. So far, you're the only person on this entire forum that I dislike. If you want to argue religion, go to P, R&S.
Do I give a shit what you like or dislike? I don't argue religion, I present ideas, if you don't find my ideas interesting, you don't have to read them. Now shut up or die by the templar's sword.
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Sure thing. Just let us know which theories are your own and which are other people's theories that you are just regurgitating.
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I was theorizing infinite earth way before I came to this forum. Now when I came here and read John Davis theory I was very much pleased that I wasn't alone, but by no means, I adopted that from John, I was thinking about infinite earth probably before some of you were born.
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...I was thinking about infinite earth probably before some of you were born.
Unless you're at least in your 60s, I doubt that.
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I didn't say all of you, I said some of you. I think some of the people that come here are no older then 8 or 9 years old, judging by their avatars and what they say here.
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I didn't say all of you, I said some of you. I think some of the people that come here are no older then 8 or 9 years old, judging by their avatars and what they say here.
well you have the child like imagination...
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I didn't say all of you, I said some of you. I think some of the people that come here are no older then 8 or 9 years old, judging by their avatars and what they say here.
And the pot called the kettle black? ???
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Stop with the childish bickering. Discuss the topic, not each other.
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I doubt children can imagine a multidimensional infinite earth. I don't believe there is anything childish about me. I don't have goofy ass avatars like you guys do and I didn't come here to disprove the flat earth theory like you guys did. Funny thing is; you let the FE'rs beat you every time you attempt your arguments. Seriously guys take some basic science courses and come back here when you pass them.
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Stop with the childish bickering. Discuss the topic, not each other.
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John, they never gonna stick to the topic, they don't buy into the infinite earth theory. They come here to mock and attack others. They say I gotta child like imagination, well better then no imagination, ha ha ha
Oh yes and Jesus said you must be child like to enter the kingdom of God, and by the way Child like is different from being childish.
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New Earth sounds like Charlie from Flowers for Algernon before the operation.
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Never saw that, this is not Germany, we only watch cool movies like Devil's Rejects ;D
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If the bible is a book of morals then how come it gives precise measurements of the New Jerusalem, down to every detail?
Infinite earth is better then finite globe in every single way. Never run out of resources, limitless everything. Endless beauty, No shortages of anything, No need to go to empty space, no more dark voids and nothingness, perfect sun instead of radioactive star we have now. Cities larger then NYC by 100 times. Imagine all the things you can do? How can you compare a tiny little seven continent earth to infinite awesome earth? But don't worry about it my children, none of you are gonna make it there. ;D You will stay with this old earth, you will stay with what you have created, while I rule over new kingdoms.
Your idealistic views of the 'perfect world' are irrelevant; just because it would be awesome doesn't mean it's the truth. Secondly, you're extrapolating information from a book largely based on extrapolations. I'd hardly count that of evidence of anything.
And where does the Bible state that Jerusalem is hundreds of miles wide and tall?
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If you want I can quote you the verses from the book of Revelation that gives precise measurements of the New Jerusalem. I was hoping that you can open the bible and look it up yourself but if you can't do it, I can quote it, just let me know OK? Of course 2000 years ago in Israel they didn't use miles, so you have to convert it. But when you convert it, yes New Jerusalem becomes 1500 miles in all directions, including vertical.
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Do I give a shit what you like or dislike? I don't argue religion, I present ideas, if you don't find my ideas interesting, you don't have to read them. Now shut up or die by the templar's sword.
You know what's funny? I also vaguely remember something about how the messiah would return when the world is filled with either pure good or pure evil. If it winds up being pure good, everyone you are talking to will either come with you or (more likely) be dead because it will not happen in this generation. If it winds up being pure evil, swearing at and threatening people who are trying (only in the loosest terms) to have a scientific (also in only the loosest terms) debate will not get you there. Or everyone will still be dead because it won't happen in this generation. I'm aware that they are certainly instigating the immature bickering, but stooping to their level in response makes you no better than them.
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Where does it say in the bible that Jesus will return when the world is filled with pure evil or pure good? I never read it.
Actually Jesus is not coming back.
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Actually Jesus is not coming back.
Maybe he already has? But we'll never be able to distinguish him from guys like this
Until they at least start walking on water, oh but wait...
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I'm not going to click on any links. Jesus was not of this world, he knew alchemy and sacred geometry. He knew all the secrets of the universe, and thus he could perform miracles. In reality there are no such things as miracles, everything can be explained, but in order to understand why Jesus could turn water into wine or walk on water you must understand higher dimensions which you claim don't exist dear Puttah.
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I'm not going to click on any links. Jesus was not of this world, he knew alchemy and sacred geometry. He knew all the secrets of the universe, and thus he could perform miracles. In reality there are no such things as miracles, everything can be explained, but in order to understand why Jesus could turn water into wine or walk on water you must understand higher dimensions which you claim don't exist dear Puttah.
You keep twisting my words around. When did I ever claim they don't exist?
But at the same time, how do you know they do exist and why do you speak of them as though you fully understand why Jesus was able to do what he did. You kept telling me about how I don't know you because I've never seen you, well, have you ever seen Jesus? See how that's a little hypocritical.
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Where does it say in the bible that Jesus will return when the world is filled with pure evil or pure good? I never read it.
Actually Jesus is not coming back.
When did I say it was in the Bible? And when did I say Jesus? My religion believes that Elijah will return as the messiah, if I recall correctly. There's a reason why I specifically said "messiah" and not "Jesus."
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Actually Puttah I do know for sure that higher dimensions exist, hyperspace being one of them. Also I don't believe in miracles or magic, so yes if the story of Jesus is real, then he had to use some sort of alchemy or other esoteric methods. Jesus said "I'm not of this world" I believe he was from another dimension, some call it heaven, paradise, whatever, its still another dimension to me, another universe. Obviously he had advanced understandings of matter, time and space, that he could even raise the dead. Do I believe that the story of Jesus is true? Yes I do because according to many whistle blowers, alien visitors can also do things that Jesus did. Do I believe Jesus was God? Well God is a very misguided term. Because to ancient people everyone who could fly in the air and perform miracles was god, in reality Jesus could have been an alien. But again we don't know.
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Actually Puttah I do know for sure that higher dimensions exist, hyperspace being one of them. Also I don't believe in miracles or magic, so yes if the story of Jesus is real, then he had to use some sort of alchemy or other esoteric methods. Jesus said "I'm not of this world" I believe he was from another dimension, some call it heaven, paradise, whatever, its still another dimension to me, another universe. Obviously he had advanced understandings of matter, time and space, that he could even raise the dead. Do I believe that the story of Jesus is true? Yes I do because according to many whistle blowers, alien visitors can also do things that Jesus did. Do I believe Jesus was God? Well God is a very misguided term. Because to ancient people everyone who could fly in the air and perform miracles was god, in reality Jesus could have been an alien. But again we don't know.
How do you know for sure these dimensions exist? Did you visit them yourself, or did you follow some kind of logical reasoning that tells you they exist?
How do you know those "whistle blowers" really know that alien visitors can do things that Jesus did? How do you know aliens exist?
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Aliens exist because even the known universe has quadrillions of planets that are located in a very similar solar systems as our earth. Statistically it would be impossible for the earth to be the only planet with intelligent life. This is not my opinion, this is mainstream astronomy and science talking.
Aliens have been witnessed and documented by millions of people all across the world. These people are not crazy or delusional. I live in the desert myself right now and I know personally people that have seen UFO's and their occupants. The governments of the world choose not to disclose this information, never the less alien visitations is a reality. Many former pilots and former military officials admitted to witnessing alien presence on earth. Please do some research on the subject.
Now to address your question about higher dimensions; did I personally visit them? The answer is yes. But you don't really have to visit them to understand that they are real. Think of a primitive life forms here on earth that only aware of 2D, men only aware of 3D, does this mean that man's dimensional awareness is all there is to it? Of course not.
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Aliens exist because even the known universe has quadrillions of planets that are located in a very similar solar systems as our earth. Statistically it would be impossible for the earth to be the only planet with intelligent life. This is not my opinion, this is mainstream astronomy and science talking.
Scientists say life is possible, but they haven't discovered it yet. Since it is still possible that extra-terrestrial life does not exist, science may not conclude that it does until conclusive evidence is found.
Aliens have been witnessed and documented by millions of people all across the world. These people are not crazy or delusional. I live in the desert myself right now and I know personally people that have seen UFO's and their occupants. The governments of the world choose not to disclose this information, never the less alien visitations is a reality. Many former pilots and former military officials admitted to witnessing alien presence on earth. Please do some research on the subject.
so only anecdotal evidence? I have also encountered such evidence, but it is not convincing. It is not proof. I too am inclined to believe aliens exist, but I don't actually know for sure.
Now to address your question about higher dimensions; did I personally visit them? The answer is yes. But you don't really have to visit them to understand that they are real. Think of a primitive life forms here on earth that only aware of 2D, men only aware of 3D, does this mean that man's dimensional awareness is all there is to it? Of course not.
So you've witnessed 4-dimensional space? How?
I myself have explored some 4-dimensional geometry. I wouldn't say human understanding is limited to three dimensions. If it was, Einstein would not have been able to conceive the concept of General Relativity.
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NE i thought you were a flat earther?
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Aliens exist because even the known universe has quadrillions of planets that are located in a very similar solar systems as our earth. Statistically it would be impossible for the earth to be the only planet with intelligent life. This is not my opinion, this is mainstream astronomy and science talking.
Obviously you've only watched a documentary here and there on the subject and not done any real studies on it. Telling us that statistically it would be impossible to not have life elsewhere in the universe is also a failure on your part to understand the notion of probabilities, or it's just an exaggeration on your part to enforce your point. It is definitely not impossible, because this would imply there MUST be life elsewhere, but as you probably already know, all leading astronomers talk about if there is life elsewhere in the universe. They don't say there is life and we have yet to find it, regardless of their beliefs. Highly probable is different to certainty.
Also, we don't even know the probability of life actually starting on our own Earth. We know it happened since we're here, but you can't conclude that it is probable by any means. Taking into account the vast number of planets can mean a high probability, or it can still be highly improbable given the minute likelihood of life ever starting on Earth.
Aliens have been witnessed and documented by millions of people all across the world. These people are not crazy or delusional. I live in the desert myself right now and I know personally people that have seen UFO's and their occupants. The governments of the world choose not to disclose this information, never the less alien visitations is a reality. Many former pilots and former military officials admitted to witnessing alien presence on earth. Please do some research on the subject.
My girlfriend said she saw something for a second in the dark while half asleep, and she is certain it wasn't her parents.
Does this statistic count towards the millions of others that have seen aliens or ghosts?
Now to address your question about higher dimensions; did I personally visit them? The answer is yes. But you don't really have to visit them to understand that they are real. Think of a primitive life forms here on earth that only aware of 2D, men only aware of 3D, does this mean that man's dimensional awareness is all there is to it? Of course not.
What life on Earth is only aware of 2D? And please enlighten me as to how you've visited higher dimensions.
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Fish are two dimensional creatures. Fish has no concept of up, and although fish can swim upward they still only experience 2D existence, basically left and right, same way with bugs. I'm surprised you even asked this question.
This here goes for all of you that challenge my theories; why is that when you hear a news reporter stating something on television or a school teacher stating something in a classroom, you accept it as absolute undeniable proof? And when you hear a former military official or some other whistle blower on the internet presenting his or her testimony and evidence, you automatically dismiss it and label it crazy or unrealistic? Just because the source of the evidence is unconventional you label it as hoax, don't you think its a bit naive?
Also when you say that scientists haven't discovered alien life, you are applying very humanistic approach toward the whole issue. Saying that is like saying, that insects still haven't discovered humans, because this is exactly what we are in comparison with advanced alien civilizations. However aliens have discovered us millions of years ago and have been watching us very closely, amongst other things.
I also think that you don't really understand statistics. Let me simplify this for you; let me give you a clear statistical example, it is statistically impossible not to find white people in Europe, it is statistically impossible not to find great white sharks in the pacific ocean, likewise it is statistically impossible for the earth to be the only planet with intelligent life, given the vastness of the universe. Hopefully this helps.
Which brings me to the last thing you addressed me about; how did I travel to other worlds and other dimensions, I did it with my mind.
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Oh boy...
Fish are two dimensional creatures. Fish has no concept of up, and although fish can swim upward they still only experience 2D existence, basically left and right, same way with bugs. I'm surprised you even asked this question.
Fish and insects are two dimensional creatures, even though they constantly move around in 3 dimensions... right...
May I remind you that if a creature is truly 2 dimensional, then the fish will only be able to see cross sections of everything in this world. Obviously every creature on this Earth is and perceives in 3 dimensions.
This here goes for all of you that challenge my theories; why is that when you hear a news reporter stating something on television or a school teacher stating something in a classroom, you accept it as absolute undeniable proof? And when you hear a former military official or some other whistle blower on the internet presenting his or her testimony and evidence, you automatically dismiss it and label it crazy or unrealistic? Just because the source of the evidence is unconventional you label it as hoax, don't you think its a bit naive?
News reporters don't give me science, they give me news. Am I going to deny that a cyclone just hit Queensland? No. I have no reason to deny what they tell me.
Science teachers are teaching me things I have never even thought of for myself or they're giving me much further insight into subjects that I have scraped the surface of in my mind. What they say makes logical sense and I myself have no better theories, so how I can be so naive as to never believe a thing they tell me? Until I have reason to believe otherwise and can conduct my own research to better test these theories, I'm going to be fed what they give me.
I'm going to label it as crazy because that is what is most likely the case. I've seen so many people claim that they saw something or they know something without a doubt and yet they still have turned out wrong. People just can't be trusted. Also, even if they did see a light in the sky, why do they instantly assume it's an alien spacecraft? Don't humans fly? Can't out of the ordinary lights appear in the sky, such as the aurora borealis? After rubbing your eyes enough or looking into a bright light for long enough or in some other ways that have to do with the brain, don't you see floating lights right in front of your eyes?
There are just way too many other possibilities. We're also in a time where talk about aliens is thriving. It used to be witches a few centuries back, but now we know better than that.
Also when you say that scientists haven't discovered alien life, you are applying very humanistic approach toward the whole issue. Saying that is like saying, that insects still haven't discovered humans, because this is exactly what we are in comparison with advanced alien civilizations. However aliens have discovered us millions of years ago and have been watching us very closely, amongst other things.
Can insects see us? Can we see aliens?
Oh right, you must've seen the aliens then. You've been watching them watch us for millions of years.
I also think that you don't really understand statistics. Let me simplify this for you; let me give you a clear statistical example, it is statistically impossible not to find white people in Europe, it is statistically impossible not to find great white sharks in the pacific ocean, likewise it is statistically impossible for the earth to be the only planet with intelligent life, given the vastness of the universe. Hopefully this helps.
I understand statistics perfectly well, and most likely have had studied it more than you have.
Your conclusion is unsurprisingly flawed. Those examples have statistically impossibilities because we know they are there. We have all seen them. We haven't found intelligent life in the universe, so how can it possibly be a statistical impossibility that we are alone?
To tweak your flawed example, it would be more like saying that you were born alone in a isolated part of the world. For your whole life you have never seen another living soul. Now it is not a statistical impossibility that the Earth is empty.
Which brings me to the last thing you addressed me about; how did I travel to other worlds and other dimensions, I did it with my mind.
Please elaborate. Last thing I remember is that people can dream or imagine all sorts of crazy things. How can anyone possibly think that to imagine something means it's real?
Once again, I'm expecting an answer filled with speculation from you, but said in a way that implies certainty.
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Google:
Remote Viewing
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However aliens have discovered us millions of years ago and have been watching us very closely, amongst other things.
They discovered us before we existed?
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Well Beorn I believe they created us, so whether its millions of years or thousands of years I really don't know. Scientists claim they know the age of the earth but they are full of shit.
Wow I see Romer is finally coming around, yes remote viewing is a very good tool to see other worlds, and yes perhaps that's how I did it, but you will never convince our Newtonian friend Puttah of anything like that because he only accepts evidence from mainstream science.
I guess my fish example was a bit misguided. Anyways let try to explain this for you Puttah; imagine a fish in a shallow pond, now that fish's only awareness is that one pond, it knows nothing outside the pond. Now imagine grabbing that fish taking it out of the pond and lifting it up, a totally new dimension is now being exposed to the fish, other ponds, dry land, beings able to breathe without water and so forth, well Michio Kaku says that today scientists believe that we are the fish, trapped in a shallow pond, that outside of our dimensional awareness there are other ponds, other worlds, that we just can't see.
Also you said that "people can't be trusted" I imagine of course you refer to people that had alien encounter, why don't you trust them and yet you trust government and conventional science so much? You don't think that academia or the government are incapable of false information or conspiracy? Again very naive of you. Recently one of the Russian regional governors came out in the open and describes his encounter with alien beings, Russian government swept it under the rug like they always do, but the news media was quick enough to show his report on national TV in Moscow. I would love to give you the link but I doubt you can read Russian.
You should really watch the series on History Channel called Ancient Aliens, its a great documentary that gives evidence of alien presence amongst the ancient cultures of the world. So even mainstream television and science now acknowledging the existence of alien beings, as I said if you do a minimal research you will realize that the evidence is overwhelming, but I guess you are waiting for president Obama to announce this on television, well that actually might happen pretty soon, one faction of the government does want to disclose this, and others don't, hopefully the disclose is very close.
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oh NE you truely belong here.... aliens must exist 'cos your saw it on tv...
the conditions needed for life are so rare that even if there was life would it be intelegent? doubt it. secondly do you think they could even travel so far? millions of lightyears away isnt an easy ride! even if they have spotted life on earth now by the time they get here the sun would of consumed earth or at best it would be a wasted journey as we would of f***** it all by then and died out to let the moon shrimp take over
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New Earth, I'm curious...is your name inspired by Tolle's book of the same name? I don't know anything about it, just that it's been a fairly popular book.
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Aliens don't travel like we do in our rockets and space shuttles, advanced civilizations have technology to bend space/time and open warmholes as shortcuts, thus they can travel great distances in a matter of seconds. Its also been suggested that aliens use the speed of thought, in this case the travel anywhere in the universe is instantaneous.
I don't believe in aliens because I saw it on television, I was just trying to point out that even mainstream science now acknowledges alien presence, the documentary on History channel was not science fiction it was done by real historians, archeologists and cosmologists.
Only people that are extremely close minded deny the existence of alien life. This universe is not just some random occurrence, there is an intelligent design behind this world and this universe, same creators populated many planets with human life.
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New Earth, I'm curious...is your name inspired by Tolle's book of the same name? I don't know anything about it, just that it's been a fairly popular book.
I never heard of that book. My name was inspired by the real new earth that is to come to replace this earth.
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New Earth, I'm curious...is your name inspired by Tolle's book of the same name? I don't know anything about it, just that it's been a fairly popular book.
I never heard of that book. My name was inspired by the real new earth that is to come to replace this earth.
Oh, well..you might possibly enjoy this book, it's a metaphysical reference and apparently its title was inspired by the same Biblical Prophecy that you're citing. But anyway.
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OK I did a bit of a research on Tolle, seems like he is a new ager and I by no means belong to that group. I don't preach peace and harmony or some new age philosophy, humanity will never achieve those things. Actually Tolle does not understand what new earth is. He thinks its going to be this same planet earth but with better socio-economic system and with people treating each other well, living in peace and all that, that is not the new earth. New earth is going to be a completely new world, the earth will no longer be a globe, instead infinite earth will be created. On that new infinite earth those that are chosen shall be like the gods ruling over those who loved this present world. So for example if you were a rich CEO in this world, on new earth you shall become a slave. New Age is just a BS liberal religion, so no I'm not with Tolle.
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If you accept the bible you automatically reject aliens. It's very specific about there being only Earth with life. Frankly, the whole book is a big load crap with a few good morals stuffed in that you might as well filter out separately. Religion may be true, but it's essentially impossible to prove. The bible is kind of useless in anything but a moral context, however.
I don't know if aliens do exist, but I think that it's plausible. Probable, indeed.
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Okay, fair enough, I didn't know anything about it; was just tossing it out there.
...uhh, well while I'm here, guess I'll ask something. You say that the chosen will be like gods, how does this figure in with God's authority and how will He determine who should be chosen?
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but you will never convince our Newtonian friend Puttah of anything like that because he only accepts evidence from mainstream science.
Everything you speak of, everything, is all created from your own crackpot mind. You haven't even studied mainstream science yourself. All your comments are based on what you want to believe and what you saw on the discovery channel. You do realize that even they want viewers, and nothing gets the attention of the average uneducated joe more than conspiracies and ideas that are out of this world.
Study mainstream science first, then you can comment about its absurdity.
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No silver it is not true at all. Please quote me one verse in the bible that rejects aliens? Actually in genesis bible speaks of Nephilim and giants who were not of this world. Also there are books that had been taken out of the bible by religious authorities of the past, such as the book of Enoch. I studied the book of Enoch and it talks about aliens and UFO's. Enoch was actually taken into space and saw the earth from the orbit. Churches and other dogmatic religious institutions tend to reject the existence of aliens, but that does not mean bible rejects it and actually Vatican recently stated that there might be other planets where God created intelligent life.
Now back to the subject of the new earth. The new earth is not going to be a place where collective reality dominates like our world, but rather where individual freedom is the rule. So hence to say that there will be one collective new earth is incorrect. There will be many new earths, because each individual will end up precisely in the type of reality that best matches his or her soul purpose. I will go to the dimension of infinite earth because this is what I want, others will go to different spherical earths, all the timelines and dimensions will open up, you will be able to choose what version of the earth you want to enter. Of course people like Puttah will never ascend, they will stay with the old earth, which is going to be bombarded with tidal waves, earthquakes and wars where billions will die.
It is really all up to us, if you prepared your consciousness for no change or for doom and gloom, this is exactly where you will end up, if you prepared paradise for yourself this is exactly what you will get. Which brings me to the point of what is God? God is consciousness, God is the mind, it is a thought, it is not flesh, it is spirit, each one of us is god, but we just don't know it yet. However if we decide to be brainwashed or surrender ourselves to the matrix of this world such as conventional ideas and herd mentality, we will loose our divinity and our thoughts will become powerless and useless, this is why I said that Puttah will never ascend because he chose to only believe science books and government that writes them. In order to go to the world of your dreams, (new earth) you must defeat the matrix, you must think outside the box, you must tell yourself that the world is an illusion, you must create your own reality in your mind and refuse to accept the superimposed collective reality of this world, only then you will be truly a God.
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Once again, I'm expecting an answer filled with speculation from you, but said in a way that implies certainty.
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If you want I can quote you the verses from the book of Revelation that gives precise measurements of the New Jerusalem.
I would love that.
Of course 2000 years ago in Israel they didn't use miles, so you have to convert it.
Well thar's your problem.
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for most of this BS and the OP. the bible is faker than any photoshoped picture. its been so over edited its useless as a point of reference.
and if you want curruption and conspiracy look towards the church your find more there than any goverment.
we would already be living in paradice if it wasnt for 2 things: money and RELIGION
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Revelation chapter 21:15,16, here is your size of the New Jerusalem, please do minimal of research and realize if converted to miles the city is 1500 miles in all directions.
Now back to your comment Squevil about paradise on this current earth. It is obvious that you think like a Marxist. Marx believed that mankind is naturally good, but its the capitalist system that makes men corrupt and greedy, he believed that if we get rid of money, human beings will literally change their entire perspective toward life and society, of course he was wrong and his idea is a utopia that can never work. That is because mankind is not naturally good, mankind is naturally greedy and sinful, people will never truly unite, it is a human nature to compete and step over others to gain more then the next guy, to crush others and live better then your neighbor. So please wake up.
This world will never be paradise because the energy that dwells in this world is awful. Humanity will be presented two choices, die or ascend, accept new reality and new planet earth or die forever. Those are two choices.
Observe the current reality. Just try having a sober mind and see this world for what it is, you will quickly notice that the world is getting worse and worse with each day. Yep not with each year, but with each day.
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You ought to team up with the folks at Landoverbaptist.net. They'd love you.
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I'm not a baptist, nor do I go to church anymore. I already told you I don't like organized religions.
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Revelation chapter 21:15,16, here is your size of the New Jerusalem, please do minimal of research and realize if converted to miles the city is 1500 miles in all directions.
Now back to your comment Squevil about paradise on this current earth. It is obvious that you think like a Marxist. Marx believed that mankind is naturally good, but its the capitalist system that makes men corrupt and greedy, he believed that if we get rid of money, human beings will literally change their entire perspective toward life and society, of course he was wrong and his idea is a utopia that can never work. That is because mankind is not naturally good, mankind is naturally greedy and sinful, people will never truly unite, it is a human nature to compete and step over others to gain more then the next guy, to crush others and live better then your neighbor. So please wake up.
This world will never be paradise because the energy that dwells in this world is awful. Humanity will be presented two choices, die or ascend, accept new reality and new planet earth or die forever. Those are two choices.
Observe the current reality. Just try having a sober mind and see this world for what it is, you will quickly notice that the world is getting worse and worse with each day. Yep not with each year, but with each day.
again you are judging people before you know them :o paradise is what you make of it, for me its just living easy doing the things i like for others its having it all or whatever. yeh your right its others greed that wrecks it for us, ive never been one for competition to make it to the top but thats why ill never be sucsessful in this capitalist country. i just think that without those 2 things we would be living in a better place. perhaps we will be currupted by something else? i guess its in our nature we are only animals after all, we just think we are something special.
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Why is there a religious debate? It's one thing to attempt to use the Bible as your evidence as to why you believe one way or the other (and New Earth chose neither on top of it); it's quite another to have a full scale religious debate, which is happening right now.
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Revelation chapter 21:15,16, here is your size of the New Jerusalem, please do minimal of research and realize if converted to miles the city is 1500 miles in all directions.
Now back to your comment Squevil about paradise on this current earth. It is obvious that you think like a Marxist. Marx believed that mankind is naturally good, but its the capitalist system that makes men corrupt and greedy, he believed that if we get rid of money, human beings will literally change their entire perspective toward life and society, of course he was wrong and his idea is a utopia that can never work. That is because mankind is not naturally good, mankind is naturally greedy and sinful, people will never truly unite, it is a human nature to compete and step over others to gain more then the next guy, to crush others and live better then your neighbor. So please wake up.
This world will never be paradise because the energy that dwells in this world is awful. Humanity will be presented two choices, die or ascend, accept new reality and new planet earth or die forever. Those are two choices.
Observe the current reality. Just try having a sober mind and see this world for what it is, you will quickly notice that the world is getting worse and worse with each day. Yep not with each year, but with each day.
again you are judging people before you know them :o paradise is what you make of it, for me its just living easy doing the things i like for others its having it all or whatever. yeh your right its others greed that wrecks it for us, ive never been one for competition to make it to the top but thats why ill never be sucsessful in this capitalist country. i just think that without those 2 things we would be living in a better place. perhaps we will be currupted by something else? i guess its in our nature we are only animals after all, we just think we are something special.
Incorrect. We are not animals, we are divine beings, but the world molded us into bunch of animals.
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i know we are going waaay off topic but please elaberate, what makes us so special?
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What makes us special is that we are a lot more intelligent then an animal kingdom, we can reason, we don't live by instincts, we know right from wrong. Also we are the only species with a soul. When an animal dies, that's the end, when we die, we just begun, you feel me?
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New Earth, I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but I gather that not very many people at all ever really "feel you."
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Absolutely correct, not many people do ;D
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Absolutely correct, not many people do ;D
Because everything that comes out of your mouth is pure speculation. I've said this many times already, but you choose to ignore it. Don't you agree with me? And if you don't, please, please explain how it is more than just speculation.
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Well to me evolution is speculation, to you its scientific fact, I'm really tired of arguing about this. You are a good man Puttah, I'm glad we got to chat a little, but let's not discuss this subject any further.
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So. . . where's the cite to those crazy Jerusalem dimensionsin the Bible?
. . . just curious.
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Well to me evolution is speculation, to you its scientific fact, I'm really tired of arguing about this. You are a good man Puttah, I'm glad we got to chat a little, but let's not discuss this subject any further.
Well I think evolution is on a completely different playing field. It has evidence to support it with obvious short term evolutionary processes such as adaptations and mutations. To ponder what could happen given thousands of generations down the line easily leads to the idea of evolution.
And I don't think it is fact. It won't be fact till it is shown to be true through direct means, rather than indirect logical means.
But honestly, how do your speculative responses weigh against these more well known and understood theories? And I don't think we've discussed it much at all, considering you try to dodge them most times :P
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So. . . where's the cite to those crazy Jerusalem dimensionsin the Bible?
. . . just curious.
I would guess Revelation 21:16...
"And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal" (KJV)
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http://minuteswithmessiah.tripod.com/question/newjerusalem.html
that does make alot more sense than a super city.
NE you clearly have very strong views on who we are and where we are going. we have as much chance as convincing you otherwise than we do of convincing the guys here that the earth is round!
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So. . . where's the cite to those crazy Jerusalem dimensionsin the Bible?
. . . just curious.
Revelation 21:15,16, convert stadia to miles, if you can't do that just google it.
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There's also "proof" in the Bible that pi is equal to 3... perhaps we should read some other books.
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I will make everyone happy here OK; There is no infinite earth, there will never be an infinite earth. There are no parallel universes or other realities. This stupid world is all there is to it. While we live, we suffer and when we die we go back to the dust of the earth. Is this what you guys wanted me to say all this time? Well I said it, anymore arguments?
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I will make everyone happy here OK; There is no infinite earth, there will never be an infinite earth. There are no parallel universes or other realities. This stupid world is all there is to it. While we live, we suffer and when we die we go back to the dust of the earth. Is this what you guys wanted me to say all this time? Well I said it, anymore arguments?
Score.
I just made a troll snap and reveal himself!
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I will make everyone happy here OK; There is no infinite earth, there will never be an infinite earth. There are no parallel universes or other realities. This stupid world is all there is to it. While we live, we suffer and when we die we go back to the dust of the earth. Is this what you guys wanted me to say all this time? Well I said it, anymore arguments?
Score.
I just made a troll snap and reveal himself!
I'm pretty sure this is a victory for everyone.
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Yes it is a victory for everyone. Also I didn't snap I told you what you wanted to hear.
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I will make everyone happy here OK; There is no infinite earth, there will never be an infinite earth. There are no parallel universes or other realities. This stupid world is all there is to it. While we live, we suffer and when we die we go back to the dust of the earth. Is this what you guys wanted me to say all this time? Well I said it, anymore arguments?
Score.
I just made a troll snap and reveal himself!
I'm pretty sure this is a victory for everyone.
New Earth's true beliefs are revealed, and he's not crazy! Now we celebrate!
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Yes parallel universes are too crazy, only leading physicists believe in them, they should all see a shrink right?
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Yes parallel universes are too crazy, only leading physicists believe in them, they should all see a shrink right?
Why would you want to believe what leading physicists believe? I thought you didn't trust modern science.
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Yes parallel universes are too crazy, only leading physicists believe in them, they should all see a shrink right?
Why would you want to believe what leading physicists believe? I thought you didn't trust modern science.
Oh my goodness, don't provoke another snapping after he has already snapped, just nod and smile.
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I honestly think its crazy of you guys to remain Newtonian and ignorant in the midst of so much evidence for the parallel universes and true nature of time, which is non linear.
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Calling someone crazy rather than properly attacking their arguments just makes yourself look bad.
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I honestly think its crazy of you guys to remain Newtonian and ignorant in the midst of so much evidence for the parallel universes and true nature of time, which is non linear.
I experience Newtonian physics every moment of my life. It's the easiest thing to notice. Just sitting on the bus I can identify every force I feel, and predict the forces I will experience during certain manoeuvers the bus driver makes. Without Newton, I would never have noticed this. Evidence for parallel universes does not compare to everyday experience.
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much evidence for the parallel universes and true nature of time, which is non linear.
Oh really? I would like to see your evidence for this.
Or is it going to be completely conjecture, just like your supposedly deist beliefs.
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Calling someone crazy rather than properly attacking their arguments just makes yourself look bad.
Well they called me crazy, didn't they? Why don't you address them!
English Gent; It doesn't matter how much evidence I provide, you will never accept it unless it comes from a classroom.
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Funny thing is, you keep saying that I am closed minded and that I won't accept any evidence you give me, but you haven't even given me any evidence yet!
So you got nothing to back up your claim?
Thought so.
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Funny thing is, you keep saying that I am closed minded and that I won't accept any evidence you give me, but you haven't even given me any evidence yet!
I see the evidence every day! It is beautiful!
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I see the evidence every day! It is beautiful!
I only see it during the night. :(
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I see the evidence every day! It is beautiful!
I only see it during the night. :(
That's unfortunate. 'Cause I saw it at 3PM today.
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I see the evidence every day! It is beautiful!
I only see it during the night. :(
That's unfortunate. 'Cause I saw it at 3PM today.
Magnificient! You are quite lucky.
I do hope that you wore protective gear however.
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Why would I need protective gear from parallel universes? ???
Are we talking about the same thing?
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I see the evidence every day! It is beautiful!
I only see it during the night. :(
That's unfortunate. 'Cause I saw it at 3PM today.
Magnificient! You are quite lucky.
I do hope that you wore protective gear however.
Sunglasses, in fact. It was quite sunny. Cold though. Therefore I was wearing many layers of protective winter clothing as well.
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I see the evidence every day! It is beautiful!
I only see it during the night. :(
That's unfortunate. 'Cause I saw it at 3PM today.
Magnificient! You are quite lucky.
I do hope that you wore protective gear however.
Sunglasses, in fact. It was quite sunny. Cold though. Therefore I was wearing many layers of protective winter clothing as well.
Great idea! Even though nothing more than sunglasses and a jock-strap are required, I appreciate your enthusiasm for safety!
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jeeze you guys know nothing.....
where the hell was your towel!
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You guys call me a troll and then expect me to show you infinite earth? Submit to my rule, call me Dominos and I shall grant you infinite lands. lol
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In other words, you don't have evidence. Because if you did, you would have provided it and shut everyone up.
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Yes I don't have any evidence for infinite earth, that's just my imagination and a dream but there are plenty of evidence for parallel universes. Level 4 parallel universe is where anything is possible, laws of physics may be very different from our own, so I think its safe to assume that infinite earth may exist in level 4 model of parallel universes.
http://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/crazy.html
P.S. youtube presentation has four parts make sure to watch all four, I'm just posting the first part.
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And none of those source give PROOF.
They are saying, "This is how it could be, and if it was, this is what it would be".
That isn't evidence.
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Incorrect, montauk and pegasus projects had proofs, do you want links?
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You have to also understand that when I say infinite earth, I don't literally mean infinite, cause I don't think anything is infinite. Our universe I believe is also finite, although we don't know what shape it is. In my model, that parallel earth is the size of our universe, extremely large, but I doubt infinite.