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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Debate => Topic started by: ClockTower on October 17, 2010, 11:48:19 AM

Title: Science Proves Infinite Slab Model False
Post by: ClockTower on October 17, 2010, 11:48:19 AM
The infinite slab FET has a constant acceleration due to gravity (g). However, experiments, peer-reviewed, demonstrate that RE predictions of its reduction with altitude are accurate.

Please reference: http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/aluminum-atomic-clock_092310.cfm (http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/aluminum-atomic-clock_092310.cfm).
Title: Re: Science Proves Infinite Slab Model False
Post by: Username on October 17, 2010, 11:49:35 AM
The infinite slab FET has a constant acceleration due to gravity (g). However, experiments, peer-reviewed, demonstrate that RE predictions of its reduction with altitude are accurate.

Please reference: http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/aluminum-atomic-clock_092310.cfm (http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/aluminum-atomic-clock_092310.cfm).
Incorrect.
Title: Re: Science Proves Infinite Slab Model False
Post by: ClockTower on October 17, 2010, 11:54:42 AM
The infinite slab FET has a constant acceleration due to gravity (g). However, experiments, peer-reviewed, demonstrate that RE predictions of its reduction with altitude are accurate.

Please reference: http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/aluminum-atomic-clock_092310.cfm (http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/aluminum-atomic-clock_092310.cfm).
Incorrect.
Please reference: http://www.pgccphy.net/1030/gravity.pdf (http://www.pgccphy.net/1030/gravity.pdf)

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Note that this is a constant: the acceleration due to gravity of an infinite plane of mass is independent of the
distance from the plane!
Title: Re: Science Proves Infinite Slab Model False
Post by: Danukenator123 on October 17, 2010, 12:21:22 PM
The infinite slab FET has a constant acceleration due to gravity (g). However, experiments, peer-reviewed, demonstrate that RE predictions of its reduction with altitude are accurate.

Please reference: http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/aluminum-atomic-clock_092310.cfm (http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/aluminum-atomic-clock_092310.cfm).
Incorrect.

Care to elaborate? I don't remember a debate where one word answers were allowed. Is it incorrect because he said gravity not the speed of the plane?
Title: Re: Science Proves Infinite Slab Model False
Post by: Username on October 17, 2010, 12:40:24 PM
Note that he is referring to a uniform plane.  Look out your window.  The plane is clearly not uniform.
Title: Re: Science Proves Infinite Slab Model False
Post by: ClockTower on October 17, 2010, 01:34:36 PM
Note that he is referring to a uniform plane.  Look out your window.  The plane is clearly not uniform.
So are you saying that a non-uniform infinite plane does not have the gravitational properties of a uniform infinite plane? If so, you're going to be left wanting a solution for 'g' for your model. I'd be very glad if you agree that we can throw out your previous efforts to show that your model has finite gravitation because it's non-uniform.
Title: Re: Science Proves Infinite Slab Model False
Post by: Danukenator123 on October 17, 2010, 01:56:37 PM
Note that he is referring to a uniform plane.  Look out your window.  The plane is clearly not uniform.

Elaborate more please. It seems that a flat or uneven plane would still require a constant rate of acceleration.
Title: Re: Science Proves Infinite Slab Model False
Post by: Herr Scheisskopf on October 25, 2010, 08:44:39 PM
The following is taken directly from the article posted at the head of the discussion. 

"Now, physicists at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) have measured this effect at a more down-to-earth scale of 33 centimeters, or about 1 foot, demonstrating, for instance, that you age faster when you stand a couple of steps higher on a staircase."

Just in case you didn't know this, according to relativity, the faster one moves, the slower time passes for you as measured by an outside observer.  This means that if the earth was really a sphere, that if you were higher up you would be traveling more quickly (think of a wheel: a point on the inside turns more slowly than a point on the outside) and therefore you would age less slowly!  Read the article, it specifically says that the experiment proves that "you age faster when you stand a couple of steps higher on a staircase" and that this happens because the earth is spinning.  Nice try scientists, but its rather difficult to create evidence out of thin air.   
Title: Re: Science Proves Infinite Slab Model False
Post by: ClockTower on October 25, 2010, 08:56:48 PM
The following is taken directly from the article posted at the head of the discussion. 

"Now, physicists at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) have measured this effect at a more down-to-earth scale of 33 centimeters, or about 1 foot, demonstrating, for instance, that you age faster when you stand a couple of steps higher on a staircase."

Just in case you didn't know this, according to relativity, the faster one moves, the slower time passes for you as measured by an outside observer.  This means that if the earth was really a sphere, that if you were higher up you would be traveling more quickly (think of a wheel: a point on the inside turns more slowly than a point on the outside) and therefore you would age less slowly!  Read the article, it specifically says that the experiment proves that "you age faster when you stand a couple of steps higher on a staircase" and that this happens because the earth is spinning.  Nice try scientists, but its rather difficult to create evidence out of thin air.   
Alas, you're confused. Also the text in red above is false.

The GR effect of the time-dilation in a gravitational field far outweighs the SR effect of moving fractionally faster. Feel free to read entirety of the OP-referenced article to understand this in detail.