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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: Ricardo on August 08, 2010, 12:53:28 AM

Title: Gaping edge
Post by: Ricardo on August 08, 2010, 12:53:28 AM
Where is the gaping edge . . .?

Oh that's right there isn't one because the earths is round

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places we cannot see, whether it be with  planes. boats or satelites.
Yes there are certain places boats and planes can't go, but we've uncovered enough of the earths surface to understand that the earth are no gaping edges and it being round makes complete sense
Everyone has seen the world.
Only so many people can lie.

your theory fails
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: frostee on August 08, 2010, 01:51:30 AM
What is a gaping edge?

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.
I disagree.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: Lorddave on August 08, 2010, 02:56:48 AM
What is a gaping edge?

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.
I disagree.

This is true.  There are areas planes and boats can not go.
Boats, for example, can't go into  Kansas.
Planes can't go into certain areas of the Himalayas due to weather.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: zork on August 08, 2010, 03:31:01 AM
We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.
I disagree.
  Satellites are also kind of planes.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: frostee on August 08, 2010, 04:40:45 AM
We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.
I disagree.
  Satellites are also kind of planes.
That is both incorrect and irrelevant.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: PizzaPlanet on August 08, 2010, 05:00:29 AM
and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.

No, no, I'm quite convinced that boats do, in fact, exist.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: zork on August 08, 2010, 09:31:28 AM
We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.
I disagree.
  Satellites are also kind of planes.
That is both incorrect and irrelevant.
It's matter of the definition. And it's not irrelevant because with satellites you can see all places on the earth if there isn't permanent cloud cover somewhere.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: Ricardo on August 08, 2010, 09:42:09 AM
What is a gaping edge?

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.
I disagree.

then how do you explain globes? all the tiny islands, all the bodies of water.
We've all seen it. Why do you refuse to believe it
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: frostee on August 08, 2010, 02:44:10 PM
We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.
I disagree.
  Satellites are also kind of planes.
That is both incorrect and irrelevant.
It's matter of the definition. And it's not irrelevant because with satellites you can see all places on the earth if there isn't permanent cloud cover somewhere.
A plane is a fixed wing aircraft generating lift with forward momentum, simple as that.
What is a gaping edge?

We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.
I disagree.

then how do you explain globes? all the tiny islands, all the bodies of water.
We've all seen it. Why do you refuse to believe it
How do I explain what...?
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: Username on August 09, 2010, 02:28:29 PM
We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.
I disagree.
  Satellites are also kind of planes.
That is both incorrect and irrelevant.
It's matter of the definition. And it's not irrelevant because with satellites you can see all places on the earth if there isn't permanent cloud cover somewhere.
Its a matter of you not knowing the definition of planes.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: zork on August 09, 2010, 03:10:55 PM
We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.
I disagree.
  Satellites are also kind of planes.
That is both incorrect and irrelevant.
It's matter of the definition. And it's not irrelevant because with satellites you can see all places on the earth if there isn't permanent cloud cover somewhere.
A plane is a fixed wing aircraft generating lift with forward momentum, simple as that.
And satellite is an object  which has been placed into orbit by human endeavor. If that object is plane then plane is satellite and satellite is plane. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: frostee on August 09, 2010, 03:23:41 PM
We've documented every section of the earth, and there are no places our planes can't go, and boats.
I disagree.
  Satellites are also kind of planes.
That is both incorrect and irrelevant.
It's matter of the definition. And it's not irrelevant because with satellites you can see all places on the earth if there isn't permanent cloud cover somewhere.
A plane is a fixed wing aircraft generating lift with forward momentum, simple as that.
And satellite is an object  which has been placed into orbit by human endeavor. If that object is plane then plane is satellite and satellite is plane. Simple as that.
Flight does not equate to orbit.
Also a satellite is not necessarily an object placed by humans
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: zork on August 09, 2010, 03:31:54 PM
And satellite is an object  which has been placed into orbit by human endeavor. If that object is plane then plane is satellite and satellite is plane. Simple as that.
Flight does not equate to orbit.
Also a satellite is not necessarily an object placed by humans
But the definition of flight is also
a passing through the air or through space outside the earth's atmosphere
a trip made by or in an airplane or spacecraft
So, there is satellite flight. And even when a satellite is not necessarily an object placed by humans it still can be a object placed by humans. So, I can freely view the satellites as planes which fly up there.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: frostee on August 10, 2010, 12:41:14 AM
From the Wikipedia article "Fixed-wing aircraft" (redirecting from aeroplane/plane)

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# A long narrow, cylindrical, spherical, odd shaped, form, called a fuselage, usually with tapered or rounded ends to make its shape aerodynamically smooth. The fuselage carries the human flight crew if the aircraft is piloted, the passengers if the aircraft is a passenger aircraft, other cargo or payload, and engines and/or fuel if the aircraft is so equipped. The pilots operate the aircraft from a cockpit  located at the front or top of the fuselage and equipped with windows, controls, and instruments. Passengers and cargo occupy the remaining available space in the fuselage. Some aircraft may have two fuselages, or additional pods or booms.
# A wing (or wings in a multiplane) with an airfoil cross-section shape, used to generate aerodynamic lifting force to support the aircraft in flight by deflecting air downward as the aircraft moves forward. The wing halves are typically symmetrical about the plane of symmetry (for symmetrical aircraft). The wing also stabilises the aircraft about its roll axis and the ailerons control rotation about that axis.

Satellites are not designed with aerodynamics in mind an important criteria for qualifying as an aeroplane.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: zork on August 10, 2010, 12:48:09 AM
From the Wikipedia article "Fixed-wing aircraft" (redirecting from aeroplane/plane)

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# A long narrow, cylindrical, spherical, odd shaped, form, called a fuselage, usually with tapered or rounded ends to make its shape aerodynamically smooth. The fuselage carries the human flight crew if the aircraft is piloted, the passengers if the aircraft is a passenger aircraft, other cargo or payload, and engines and/or fuel if the aircraft is so equipped. The pilots operate the aircraft from a cockpit  located at the front or top of the fuselage and equipped with windows, controls, and instruments. Passengers and cargo occupy the remaining available space in the fuselage. Some aircraft may have two fuselages, or additional pods or booms.
# A wing (or wings in a multiplane) with an airfoil cross-section shape, used to generate aerodynamic lifting force to support the aircraft in flight by deflecting air downward as the aircraft moves forward. The wing halves are typically symmetrical about the plane of symmetry (for symmetrical aircraft). The wing also stabilises the aircraft about its roll axis and the ailerons control rotation about that axis.

Satellites are not designed with aerodynamics in mind an important criteria for qualifying as an aeroplane.
Narrow minded thinking. Because you don't need wings up there because there is no air and no need for aerodynamics. Planes evolve, you know.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: frostee on August 10, 2010, 01:01:13 AM
Because you don't need wings up there because there is no air and no need for aerodynamics.
No shit.

The very term aeroplane or airplane has "air" in it suggesting within the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: Aristarchus on August 10, 2010, 01:03:40 AM
From the Wikipedia article "Fixed-wing aircraft" (redirecting from aeroplane/plane)

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# A long narrow, cylindrical, spherical, odd shaped, form, called a fuselage, usually with tapered or rounded ends to make its shape aerodynamically smooth. The fuselage carries the human flight crew if the aircraft is piloted, the passengers if the aircraft is a passenger aircraft, other cargo or payload, and engines and/or fuel if the aircraft is so equipped. The pilots operate the aircraft from a cockpit  located at the front or top of the fuselage and equipped with windows, controls, and instruments. Passengers and cargo occupy the remaining available space in the fuselage. Some aircraft may have two fuselages, or additional pods or booms.
# A wing (or wings in a multiplane) with an airfoil cross-section shape, used to generate aerodynamic lifting force to support the aircraft in flight by deflecting air downward as the aircraft moves forward. The wing halves are typically symmetrical about the plane of symmetry (for symmetrical aircraft). The wing also stabilises the aircraft about its roll axis and the ailerons control rotation about that axis.

Satellites are not designed with aerodynamics in mind an important criteria for qualifying as an aeroplane.

Not always true:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOCE

"The satellite's arrow shape and fins help keep the GOCE stable as it flies through the wisps of air still present at an altitude of 260 km."

Also, the ISS has to be boosted up every so often in order to maintain orbit, due to atmospheric drag.

True, most satellites are not designed with aerodynamics in mind, but they still have to deal with atmospheric drag.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: frostee on August 10, 2010, 01:45:11 AM
"The satellite's arrow shape and fins help keep the GOCE stable as it flies through the wisps of air still present at an altitude of 260 km."
So it doesn't produce lift through forward momentum? Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: Aristarchus on August 10, 2010, 02:00:33 AM
"The satellite's arrow shape and fins help keep the GOCE stable as it flies through the wisps of air still present at an altitude of 260 km."
So it doesn't produce lift through forward momentum? Thanks for the clarification.

Of course not, but clearly aerodynamics were involved in the design of GOCE.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: frostee on August 10, 2010, 02:09:36 AM
"The satellite's arrow shape and fins help keep the GOCE stable as it flies through the wisps of air still present at an altitude of 260 km."
So it doesn't produce lift through forward momentum? Thanks for the clarification.

Of course not, but clearly aerodynamics were involved in the design of GOCE.
But it doesn't generate life through forward momentum thus making it a satellite with aerodynamic features but not a plane
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: Aristarchus on August 10, 2010, 02:29:56 AM
"The satellite's arrow shape and fins help keep the GOCE stable as it flies through the wisps of air still present at an altitude of 260 km."
So it doesn't produce lift through forward momentum? Thanks for the clarification.

Of course not, but clearly aerodynamics were involved in the design of GOCE.
But it doesn't generate life through forward momentum thus making it a satellite with aerodynamic features but not a plane

Did I say GOCE was a plane? No.

I suggest that you improve your reading comprehension.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: zork on August 10, 2010, 06:56:14 AM
Because you don't need wings up there because there is no air and no need for aerodynamics.
No shit.

The very term aeroplane or airplane has "air" in it suggesting within the atmosphere.
So what? Some terms are just used because of inertia even when you don't need air for planes anymore they are still called airplanes. And for the record, the term was just a plane before, not airplane.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: eartheater on August 10, 2010, 10:31:15 AM
just like i said, who gives a shit about the wiki definition of a airplane, FE'ers run aground again... explain the edge, show even a shread of evidence that isnt speculation, explain anything!!
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: frostee on August 10, 2010, 07:51:39 PM
Because you don't need wings up there because there is no air and no need for aerodynamics.
No shit.

The very term aeroplane or airplane has "air" in it suggesting within the atmosphere.
So what? Some terms are just used because of inertia even when you don't need air for planes anymore they are still called airplanes. And for the record, the term was just a plane before, not airplane.
Plane = Airplane = Aeroplane
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: zork on August 11, 2010, 12:32:00 AM
Because you don't need wings up there because there is no air and no need for aerodynamics.
No shit.

The very term aeroplane or airplane has "air" in it suggesting within the atmosphere.
So what? Some terms are just used because of inertia even when you don't need air for planes anymore they are still called airplanes. And for the record, the term was just a plane before, not airplane.
Plane = Airplane = Aeroplane
It's your conservative view, I can' t argue that.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: frostee on August 11, 2010, 02:36:22 AM
Okay then what is the difference between a plane and an aeroplane or an airplane? Remember we aren't talking about the flat, two dimensional surface variety here.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: zork on August 11, 2010, 02:59:26 AM
 We already have spaceplanes. And orbital spaceplanes. So, the plane is general term for man made things that fly up there. And if you really want to limit term plane with wings then everyone can design satellite with wings, even when you don't use them.
 Edit:
 And there is also underwater plane. So it seems to be general term about the things with wings and even doesn't include air or flying. I guess that there is nothing which forbids me to include the satellites under general plane term if they have something which are like the wings. Solar panels for example.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: James on August 11, 2010, 05:45:25 AM
It is true, a satellite is in fact a type of aeroplane.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: markjo on August 11, 2010, 06:21:28 AM
It is true, a satellite is in fact a type of aeroplane.

The moon is an aeroplane?!?  :o
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: James on August 11, 2010, 07:11:47 AM
The Moon is not a satellite!
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: General Disarray on August 11, 2010, 07:27:03 AM
The Moon is not a satellite!

Forgetting for a moment your vague and unproven ideas about our moon, what then about the moons of other worlds? For example the moons of Jupiter which I have viewed many times through my own telescope; are they a type of aeroplane?
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: EagleWatch on August 11, 2010, 07:40:47 AM
Why are you people discussing the definition of airplane and satellite? The more of these threads I read the more I notice how you FE believers sneak away from the questions. Stay on topic please because I would love to hear a legitimate answer to this question.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: markjo on August 11, 2010, 07:47:17 AM
The Moon is not a satellite!

The moon maintains sustained space flight above the FE.  How does that not fit the definition of a satellite in the context of a flat earth?  Or do you have a better definition of a satellite of the flat earth that you would be willing to share with us?
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: eartheater on August 11, 2010, 08:29:31 AM
i made a similar post eaglewatch, they wont answer u. this post started with questions about the edge or ice wall, and of course and as usual nobody has an answer besides changing the subject to a pointless argument about the definition of airplanes? wow.... so easy for a FETist to change the topic when the only answer is : we dont know that the edge or ice wall exists, we just think it does....
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: gotham on August 11, 2010, 05:31:24 PM
I'm quite sure I read a description of the ice wall on the site somewhere and it stated that is does exist instead of merely "thinking" it exists. If I'm not mistaken, there were also references to having seen it?   
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: MrBoB on August 13, 2010, 07:58:25 AM
i made a similar post eaglewatch, they wont answer u. this post started with questions about the edge or ice wall, and of course and as usual nobody has an answer besides changing the subject to a pointless argument about the definition of airplanes? wow.... so easy for a FETist to change the topic when the only answer is : we dont know that the edge or ice wall exists, we just think it does....

yeah, things like that happened to me often before, but I have never seen such a concentration of getting off topic. And Im used to /b/. Looks like the only purpose of these discussion forums are off-topics.

I'm quite sure I read a description of the ice wall on the site somewhere and it stated that is does exist instead of merely "thinking" it exists. If I'm not mistaken, there were also references to having seen it?   
So did I, I saw the pink giant jelly bears with rocket launchers protecting it. All my comrades who were with me are dead, I was the only survivor, I was travelling on a piece of ice back to new zealand when an iraqi submarine, which was intended to head for lake michigan but got lost in his way, picked me up after a week of travel, only eating little jelly bears and my fingernails and drinking jellyblood. Yes we could actually kill one before everybody else was killed. After meeting Saddam Hussein and telling my story, he decided to convince all his muslim dictator friends of the flat earth and consequently just a few months later Iraq was invaded by America, in order to not let them spread the truth and keep up the conspiracy. I still feel guilty about this.
Title: Re: Gaping edge
Post by: eartheater on August 14, 2010, 01:34:03 PM
all hail flatearth!!!!!!! its like middle earth, but flatter sorta.....