The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: ultimateq on March 08, 2010, 11:31:08 AM
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From your own link, let me demonstrate to you that the Earth is actually round (I prefer spherical).
http://www.theflatEarthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=High+Altitude+Photographs
Points to http://www.natrium42.com/halo/flight2/ from there, I went to photographs and yanked these photos for demonstrative purposes.
This image demonstrates that if the Earth was flat, that a straight line would follow the surface. However, it does not.
(http://i45.tinypic.com/9jpqip.jpg)
This image demonstrates the same idea as the previous.
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2bwrgn.jpg)
This image demonstrates the same idea as the previous 2.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/nobx9s.jpg)
Note that on the final square, I demonstrate the difference in the straight line vs the curve.
Curvature results from the fact that on a flat earth we are looking down at the circular spotlight of the sun. A circle is always curved in two dimensions.
That makes absolutely no sense.
Althought the observer is looking downwards at the circle of the sun's spotlight, the distant continents of the earth are still tens of thousands of miles away horizontally from the observer, and thus beyond the resolution of the human eye and merged with the line of the horizon, squished into indiscernibility and faded with the thickness of the atmosphere.
Nice little fairly tale. But you're just pulling unfounded conclusions from thin air.
If you want panoramic shots as proof, then you have no idea how a panoramic camera actually works, or that it actually distorts the image to make it viewable. Same story goes with wide angle lens's.
You have absolutely no pictures or any material evidence to back up any of your claims, you only have complete nonsense excuses to mountains of evidence against you. I can honestly say that I don't think you guys believe in this and that you just like a good debate, and to that I say have fun, a good debate is great.
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shoop.
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Looks exactly like a spotlight shining down on a flat surface. Congratulations. Another win for FE!!
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Looks exactly like a spotlight shining down on a flat surface. Congratulations. Another win for FE!!
eh?
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Looks exactly like a spotlight shining down on a flat surface. Congratulations. Another win for FE!!
What? No it doesn't.
It looks like a spotlight lighting a round object, you nub.
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Clearly the tens of thousands of photos showing the curvature of the Earth are 100% the product of The Conspiracy.
The complete lack of photos showing proof of a Flat Earth are clearly the product of The Anti-Conspiracy (sometimes refered to as The Sub-Conspiracy)
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I just realized that I posted my posts in the wrong forum. Please forgive the mistake. Move them to debate if you would like.
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I just realized that I posted my posts in the wrong forum. Please forgive the mistake. Move them to debate if you would like.
No, it got moved here by a mod.
Continue.
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I see, well that's kind of stinks.
I can see exactly what they're talking about with the Spotlight being pointed on a flat surface. But no, you are very still very wrong, that is a very weak explanation. You'll have to do better than that to convince me.
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I don't see why:
I've heard this one a lot, and I'm almost certain that it's an untenable claim.
If you're referring to this sort of curve:
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/PraiseOfFolly/not-a-big-deal-curve.png)
then I am so not impressed. How do you know you're not just looking a disc? As it turns out, I drew that figure by drawing a circular arc, not by drawing a sphere and putting it through a perspective projection (i.e., what your eyes do).
If you're talking about the other sort of curvature -- that is, like this:
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/PraiseOfFolly/a-big-deal-curve.png)
-- then that's a bit more interesting. But do you really claim to be able to see that from a mountain top or airplane? Having been in both situations, I don't really feel that I could see it.
-Erasmus
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Those are obviously photoshopped images. Please find something more convincing.
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Looks exactly like a spotlight shining down on a flat surface. Congratulations. Another win for FE!!
Feel like explaining time zones, then?
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Looks exactly like a spotlight shining down on a flat surface. Congratulations. Another win for FE!!
Feel like explaining time zones, then?
There are perfectly good topics discussing this very issue. Feel free to search for them.
The short version is, the spotlight doesnt cover the entire surface all at once.
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Those are obviously photoshopped images. Please find something more convincing.
Yup all of the billions of photos of earth are all shooped, and everyone is in on the conspiracy except the people who believe in FET, all 5 of them.
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I don't see why:
I've heard this one a lot, and I'm almost certain that it's an untenable claim.
If you're referring to this sort of curve:
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/PraiseOfFolly/not-a-big-deal-curve.png)
then I am so not impressed. How do you know you're not just looking a disc? As it turns out, I drew that figure by drawing a circular arc, not by drawing a sphere and putting it through a perspective projection (i.e., what your eyes do).
If you're talking about the other sort of curvature -- that is, like this:
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/PraiseOfFolly/a-big-deal-curve.png)
-- then that's a bit more interesting. But do you really claim to be able to see that from a mountain top or airplane? Having been in both situations, I don't really feel that I could see it.
-Erasmus
Why would you see a circular arc from a disc? Seems to me you would have to be really far up (1000's of km) or very close to the edge.
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I don't see why:
I've heard this one a lot, and I'm almost certain that it's an untenable claim.
If you're referring to this sort of curve:
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/PraiseOfFolly/not-a-big-deal-curve.png)
then I am so not impressed. How do you know you're not just looking a disc? As it turns out, I drew that figure by drawing a circular arc, not by drawing a sphere and putting it through a perspective projection (i.e., what your eyes do).
If you're talking about the other sort of curvature -- that is, like this:
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/PraiseOfFolly/a-big-deal-curve.png)
-- then that's a bit more interesting. But do you really claim to be able to see that from a mountain top or airplane? Having been in both situations, I don't really feel that I could see it.
-Erasmus
Dense. Entirely Dense.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/jfhg7b.jpg)
Look it's flat, the earth must be flat!! I can trace over that with a circle, I don't need a sphere. So the earth must be flat! I can create a curve without using a sphere, so the earth must be flat!
Or the curve we are seeing is in fact the curve of the earth. You have nothing to disprove it, and only shoddy explanations to try to prove your own stance.
And if we are seeing the "edge of earth", and not the curve of the planet. Then you should be able to walk out to that edge and get pictures. I'll be waiting to see those pictures.
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Angry ranting will get you ignored.
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Yeah, that's still not an answer.
I'm waiting for those pictures gentlemen.
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Dense. Entirely Dense.
Do you have a point to make, or are you just going to keep spouting unsupported statements and comments for the rest of your time here? If you're haing trouble coming up with an argument, then you should just say so.
And if we are seeing the "edge of earth", and not the curve of the planet. Then you should be able to walk out to that edge and get pictures. I'll be waiting to see those pictures.
Yeah, I'll just get my hiking boots on now and walk all the way to the rim ::)
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Looks exactly like a spotlight shining down on a flat surface. Congratulations. Another win for FE!!
Feel like explaining time zones, then?
There are perfectly good topics discussing this very issue. Feel free to search for them.
The short version is, the spotlight doesnt cover the entire surface all at once.
And my question is: Why does the SUN act like a spotlight? An open flame doesn't discriminate what it illuminates.
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It's obvious that all of this can be explained in terms of perspective and optical illusion... but it looks to me like you've done a bit of skewing in drawing your lines. Perhaps I'm just not seeing the image properly due to its boundaries being a bit fuzzy, but when I enlarge and draw a line on your image, I get the following:
(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8181/earthe.jpg)
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It's obvious that all of this can be explained in terms of perspective and optical illusion... but it looks to me like you've done a bit of skewing in drawing your lines. Perhaps I'm just not seeing the image properly due to its boundaries being a bit fuzzy, but when I enlarge and draw a line on your image, I get the following:
(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8181/earthe.jpg)
You are cutting the earth
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Looks exactly like a spotlight shining down on a flat surface. Congratulations. Another win for FE!!
Feel like explaining time zones, then?
There are perfectly good topics discussing this very issue. Feel free to search for them.
The short version is, the spotlight doesnt cover the entire surface all at once.
If it's covering a perfectly circular area, it's not going to accurately show a full day/night cycle or recreate time zones.