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Title: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 02, 2010, 07:45:49 PM
Very cool video demonstrating the effects of using the Space Shuttle to boost the ISS back in to it's proper orbit.

#t=1m51s

As usual, much longer than the longest "Vomit Comet" footage.  No special effects here, just good old physics.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Tom Bishop on March 03, 2010, 02:15:31 AM
Please stop posting your space fiction.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: flyingmonkey on March 03, 2010, 02:35:20 AM
Please stop posting your space fiction.

Is that all you have?

Nice rebuttal.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: d00gz on March 03, 2010, 02:57:10 AM
Please stop posting your space fiction.

Prove that it's fiction.

Or stop posting.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: three-dimensional-world on March 03, 2010, 04:25:30 AM
Very cool video demonstrating the effects of using the Space Shuttle to boost the ISS back in to it's proper orbit.

#t=1m51s

As usual, much longer than the longest "Vomit Comet" footage.  No special effects here, just good old physics.

I LOVE STUFF LIKE TAHT!!!!!  ;) ;D :D :D :D

I want to go to space one day
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Rein on March 03, 2010, 04:49:02 AM
Thanks for posting this video, it looks indeed nice to be in space. And thanks Tom for your valuable submission to this thread, you are correct, this looks nothing like real. ::)
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 03, 2010, 05:17:10 AM
Please stop posting your space fiction.

At least I'm trying... you look like you're just phoning it in these days...
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Canadark on March 03, 2010, 12:09:30 PM
Please stop posting your space fiction.

Thank you for saying "please".
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Thermal Detonator on March 03, 2010, 12:58:27 PM
Please stop posting your space fiction.

Reported for memberating.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: ItsFlatJack on March 04, 2010, 11:38:46 PM
It's pretty cool what they can do with magnets.  But the blue screen effect is somewhat 1990's, no?   Notice the closed set for filming, and all the fancy tricked out cameras, a total inside joke.  :P
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: 2fst4u on March 05, 2010, 01:11:03 AM
Notice the closed set for filming, and all the fancy tricked out cameras
No. Show me.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 05:00:39 AM
It's pretty cool what they can do with magnets.  But the blue screen effect is somewhat 1990's, no?   Notice the closed set for filming, and all the fancy tricked out cameras, a total inside joke.  :P

You probably don't even know what that "fancy tricked out" camera is for.  You know what I noticed?  I noticed that fancy tricked out camera FLOATING IN MIDAIR.  Yeah, strange you didn't actually address that part.  Gee, I wonder why?  Because there is no way to explain it.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 07:57:50 AM
Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video?  ???
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 10:05:34 AM
Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video?  ???

There is no way to explain it WITHIN THE FLAT EARTH HYPOTHESIS.

Magnets?  Uh okay, show me something even close to that that uses magnets.  Maybe we were watching different videos.  The one I saw showed 2 1/2 minutes of a very large tricked out camera seemingly floating in mid-air AND a person doing the same thing.  I've never seen a trick like that done on earth using magnets.

The only way to explain this is the reasonable explanation given to us, and that is they are in orbit.  When the station begins to accelerate, everything that is not tied down begins to move in the same direction.  That's not even something you could do in an aeroplane flying parabolas (That the footage is so long *and* so stable disproves that explanation anyways).

Come up with whatever explanation you want, but you have to back it up with evidence.  You might as well suggest they used magic faerie dust.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 10:20:10 AM
Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video?  ???

There is no way to explain it WITHIN THE FLAT EARTH HYPOTHESIS.

Magnets?  Uh okay, show me something even close to that that uses magnets.  Maybe we were watching different videos.  The one I saw showed 2 1/2 minutes of a very large tricked out camera seemingly floating in mid-air AND a person doing the same thing.  I've never seen a trick like that done on earth using magnets.

The only way to explain this is the reasonable explanation given to us, and that is they are in orbit.  When the station begins to accelerate, everything that is not tied down begins to move in the same direction.  That's not even something you could do in an aeroplane flying parabolas (That the footage is so long *and* so stable disproves that explanation anyways).

Come up with whatever explanation you want, but you have to back it up with evidence.  You might as well suggest they used magic faerie dust.

There are many many ways to do this.  There is the vomit comet parabolic flight airplane (because NASA makes the best airplanes) that could easily fit the room he was in.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Rein on March 05, 2010, 10:31:18 AM
But the blue screen effect is somewhat 1990's, no?

Chroma-keying out reflections in a realistic way costs as much as what the nasa gets each year. So this was the nasa's trick this year...What about the rest of the footages? They must be real, otherwise the conspiracy would be losing money.

Oh and I forgot to mention that bluescreens are mostly replaced by greenscreens these days (we're in the year 2010, in case you didn't know). Bluescreen is a term used for computererrors inflicting hardware.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 10:34:05 AM
Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video?  ???

There is no way to explain it WITHIN THE FLAT EARTH HYPOTHESIS.

Magnets?  Uh okay, show me something even close to that that uses magnets.  Maybe we were watching different videos.  The one I saw showed 2 1/2 minutes of a very large tricked out camera seemingly floating in mid-air AND a person doing the same thing.  I've never seen a trick like that done on earth using magnets.

The only way to explain this is the reasonable explanation given to us, and that is they are in orbit.  When the station begins to accelerate, everything that is not tied down begins to move in the same direction.  That's not even something you could do in an aeroplane flying parabolas (That the footage is so long *and* so stable disproves that explanation anyways).

Come up with whatever explanation you want, but you have to back it up with evidence.  You might as well suggest they used magic faerie dust.

There are many many ways to do this.  There is the vomit comet parabolic flight airplane (because NASA makes the best airplanes) that could easily fit the room he was in.

You're right, gosh why didn't I think of that, I really should have addressed that.  OH WAIT I DID.  Seriously, did you even read what I wrote?

Find me Vomit Comet footage that is:
1. As long as the footage we see from this ISS video.
2. is as stable as the footage we see from this ISS video.
3. accelerates in the middle of the footage without falling out of the parabolic arc.

Sorry, the Vomit Comet simply can't fly in parabolic arcs for even half that long before it has to pull up (at which point the "gravity" goes from 0 G to 2 G and everything that isn't tied down hits the floor hard), nor can the Vomit Comet fly in such a perfect parabolic arc that the footage is so stable, especially when it has to accelerate in the middle of the manouvre to simulate the effect of accelerating in orbit.

Try a little harder next time, you're back to square one and stuck with faerie dust as the only reasonable explanation (other than the real answer: They are in orbit)

Hey at least you aren't dismissing it as CGI and citing a terrible movie like Space Cowboys as the ultimate example of faked zero g footage.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 10:37:10 AM
But the blue screen effect is somewhat 1990's, no?

Chroma-keying out reflections in a realistic way costs as much as what the nasa gets each year. So this was the nasa's trick this year...What about the rest of the footages? They must be real, otherwise the conspiracy would be losing money.

Oh and I forgot to mention that bluescreens are mostly replaced by greenscreens these days (we're in the year 2010, in case you didn't know). Bluescreen is a term used for computererrors inflicting hardware.

I'm sure NASA is outsourcing all of it's CG work to India by now just like James Cameron did with lots of the footage from Avatar.  The whole of Bollywood is part of The Conspiracy, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 12:43:26 PM
Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video?  ???

There is no way to explain it WITHIN THE FLAT EARTH HYPOTHESIS.

Magnets?  Uh okay, show me something even close to that that uses magnets.  Maybe we were watching different videos.  The one I saw showed 2 1/2 minutes of a very large tricked out camera seemingly floating in mid-air AND a person doing the same thing.  I've never seen a trick like that done on earth using magnets.

The only way to explain this is the reasonable explanation given to us, and that is they are in orbit.  When the station begins to accelerate, everything that is not tied down begins to move in the same direction.  That's not even something you could do in an aeroplane flying parabolas (That the footage is so long *and* so stable disproves that explanation anyways).

Come up with whatever explanation you want, but you have to back it up with evidence.  You might as well suggest they used magic faerie dust.

There are many many ways to do this.  There is the vomit comet parabolic flight airplane (because NASA makes the best airplanes) that could easily fit the room he was in.

You're right, gosh why didn't I think of that, I really should have addressed that.  OH WAIT I DID.  Seriously, did you even read what I wrote?

Find me Vomit Comet footage that is:
1. As long as the footage we see from this ISS video.
2. is as stable as the footage we see from this ISS video.
3. accelerates in the middle of the footage without falling out of the parabolic arc.

Sorry, the Vomit Comet simply can't fly in parabolic arcs for even half that long before it has to pull up (at which point the "gravity" goes from 0 G to 2 G and everything that isn't tied down hits the floor hard), nor can the Vomit Comet fly in such a perfect parabolic arc that the footage is so stable, especially when it has to accelerate in the middle of the manouvre to simulate the effect of accelerating in orbit.

Try a little harder next time, you're back to square one and stuck with faerie dust as the only reasonable explanation (other than the real answer: They are in orbit)

Hey at least you aren't dismissing it as CGI and citing a terrible movie like Space Cowboys as the ultimate example of faked zero g footage.

I did read it but I forgot.  :'(  And then I remembered this animal experimentation!

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ;D

As to something that comes close to that using magnets:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.ACCT88394/it.A/id.951/.f?sc=2&category=47
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Rein on March 05, 2010, 12:51:12 PM
Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video?  ???

There is no way to explain it WITHIN THE FLAT EARTH HYPOTHESIS.

Magnets?  Uh okay, show me something even close to that that uses magnets.  Maybe we were watching different videos.  The one I saw showed 2 1/2 minutes of a very large tricked out camera seemingly floating in mid-air AND a person doing the same thing.  I've never seen a trick like that done on earth using magnets.

The only way to explain this is the reasonable explanation given to us, and that is they are in orbit.  When the station begins to accelerate, everything that is not tied down begins to move in the same direction.  That's not even something you could do in an aeroplane flying parabolas (That the footage is so long *and* so stable disproves that explanation anyways).

Come up with whatever explanation you want, but you have to back it up with evidence.  You might as well suggest they used magic faerie dust.

There are many many ways to do this.  There is the vomit comet parabolic flight airplane (because NASA makes the best airplanes) that could easily fit the room he was in.

You're right, gosh why didn't I think of that, I really should have addressed that.  OH WAIT I DID.  Seriously, did you even read what I wrote?

Find me Vomit Comet footage that is:
1. As long as the footage we see from this ISS video.
2. is as stable as the footage we see from this ISS video.
3. accelerates in the middle of the footage without falling out of the parabolic arc.

Sorry, the Vomit Comet simply can't fly in parabolic arcs for even half that long before it has to pull up (at which point the "gravity" goes from 0 G to 2 G and everything that isn't tied down hits the floor hard), nor can the Vomit Comet fly in such a perfect parabolic arc that the footage is so stable, especially when it has to accelerate in the middle of the manouvre to simulate the effect of accelerating in orbit.

Try a little harder next time, you're back to square one and stuck with faerie dust as the only reasonable explanation (other than the real answer: They are in orbit)

Hey at least you aren't dismissing it as CGI and citing a terrible movie like Space Cowboys as the ultimate example of faked zero g footage.

I did read it but I forgot.  :'(  And then I remembered this animal experimentation!

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ;D

As to something that comes close to that using magnets:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.ACCT88394/it.A/id.951/.f?sc=2&category=47


I want evidence, that photo on your last link can be faked.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: SupahLovah on March 05, 2010, 12:55:07 PM
Levitating magnetic things isn't as hard as levitating non-magnetic things, such as people.

Although with some really powerful magnets (the size of an average house I think) they've lifted a butterfly or something.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 12:56:09 PM
Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video?  ???

There is no way to explain it WITHIN THE FLAT EARTH HYPOTHESIS.

Magnets?  Uh okay, show me something even close to that that uses magnets.  Maybe we were watching different videos.  The one I saw showed 2 1/2 minutes of a very large tricked out camera seemingly floating in mid-air AND a person doing the same thing.  I've never seen a trick like that done on earth using magnets.

The only way to explain this is the reasonable explanation given to us, and that is they are in orbit.  When the station begins to accelerate, everything that is not tied down begins to move in the same direction.  That's not even something you could do in an aeroplane flying parabolas (That the footage is so long *and* so stable disproves that explanation anyways).

Come up with whatever explanation you want, but you have to back it up with evidence.  You might as well suggest they used magic faerie dust.

There are many many ways to do this.  There is the vomit comet parabolic flight airplane (because NASA makes the best airplanes) that could easily fit the room he was in.

You're right, gosh why didn't I think of that, I really should have addressed that.  OH WAIT I DID.  Seriously, did you even read what I wrote?

Find me Vomit Comet footage that is:
1. As long as the footage we see from this ISS video.
2. is as stable as the footage we see from this ISS video.
3. accelerates in the middle of the footage without falling out of the parabolic arc.

Sorry, the Vomit Comet simply can't fly in parabolic arcs for even half that long before it has to pull up (at which point the "gravity" goes from 0 G to 2 G and everything that isn't tied down hits the floor hard), nor can the Vomit Comet fly in such a perfect parabolic arc that the footage is so stable, especially when it has to accelerate in the middle of the manouvre to simulate the effect of accelerating in orbit.

Try a little harder next time, you're back to square one and stuck with faerie dust as the only reasonable explanation (other than the real answer: They are in orbit)

Hey at least you aren't dismissing it as CGI and citing a terrible movie like Space Cowboys as the ultimate example of faked zero g footage.

I did read it but I forgot.  :'(  And then I remembered this animal experimentation!

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ;D

As to something that comes close to that using magnets:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.ACCT88394/it.A/id.951/.f?sc=2&category=47


So basically you got nothin'..

A 20 second video showing just how short a ride on the Vomit Comet, not to mention how unstable the ride is, nothing can keep still for very long.  Thank you so much for providing me the evidence to make my case.  And a magnet that can levitate 4 ounces?  Wow, that's like one step away from levitating a 180 pound man that isn't made out of a material which would react to magnets.

Again, thanks for making my case.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 01:01:53 PM
Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video?  ???

There is no way to explain it WITHIN THE FLAT EARTH HYPOTHESIS.

Magnets?  Uh okay, show me something even close to that that uses magnets.  Maybe we were watching different videos.  The one I saw showed 2 1/2 minutes of a very large tricked out camera seemingly floating in mid-air AND a person doing the same thing.  I've never seen a trick like that done on earth using magnets.

The only way to explain this is the reasonable explanation given to us, and that is they are in orbit.  When the station begins to accelerate, everything that is not tied down begins to move in the same direction.  That's not even something you could do in an aeroplane flying parabolas (That the footage is so long *and* so stable disproves that explanation anyways).

Come up with whatever explanation you want, but you have to back it up with evidence.  You might as well suggest they used magic faerie dust.

There are many many ways to do this.  There is the vomit comet parabolic flight airplane (because NASA makes the best airplanes) that could easily fit the room he was in.

You're right, gosh why didn't I think of that, I really should have addressed that.  OH WAIT I DID.  Seriously, did you even read what I wrote?

Find me Vomit Comet footage that is:
1. As long as the footage we see from this ISS video.
2. is as stable as the footage we see from this ISS video.
3. accelerates in the middle of the footage without falling out of the parabolic arc.

Sorry, the Vomit Comet simply can't fly in parabolic arcs for even half that long before it has to pull up (at which point the "gravity" goes from 0 G to 2 G and everything that isn't tied down hits the floor hard), nor can the Vomit Comet fly in such a perfect parabolic arc that the footage is so stable, especially when it has to accelerate in the middle of the manouvre to simulate the effect of accelerating in orbit.

Try a little harder next time, you're back to square one and stuck with faerie dust as the only reasonable explanation (other than the real answer: They are in orbit)

Hey at least you aren't dismissing it as CGI and citing a terrible movie like Space Cowboys as the ultimate example of faked zero g footage.

I did read it but I forgot.  :'(  And then I remembered this animal experimentation!

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ;D

As to something that comes close to that using magnets:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.ACCT88394/it.A/id.951/.f?sc=2&category=47


So basically you got nothin'..

A 20 second video showing just how short a ride on the Vomit Comet, not to mention how unstable the ride is, nothing can keep still for very long.  Thank you so much for providing me the evidence to make my case.  And a magnet that can levitate 4 ounces?  Wow, that's like one step away from levitating a 180 pound man that isn't made out of a material which would react to magnets.

Again, thanks for making my case.

Not so fast Sir Pierce!  A levitating frog is check and mate, I believe!


Another win for FE!
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: jimspade on March 05, 2010, 01:21:03 PM
Please stop posting your space fiction.

It's obvious you believe this to be fake. In your opinion how did they fake the weightlessness.
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 03:41:01 PM


Not so fast Sir Pierce!  A levitating frog is check and mate, I believe!


Another win for FE!

heheheh okay I get it now... yeah you had me going there for a while...!

is there anyone on this board that actually believes in the Flat Earth?
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: Rein on March 05, 2010, 04:05:25 PM


Not so fast Sir Pierce!  A levitating frog is check and mate, I believe!


Another win for FE!

heheheh okay I get it now... yeah you had me going there for a while...!

is there anyone on this board that actually believes in the Flat Earth?

Thought the same thing yesterday. Are we being fooled? Seriously, I smell a big big big joke. Does anyone believe in FE?
Title: Re: Boosting the ISS
Post by: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 04:27:52 PM


Not so fast Sir Pierce!  A levitating frog is check and mate, I believe!


Another win for FE!

heheheh okay I get it now... yeah you had me going there for a while...!

is there anyone on this board that actually believes in the Flat Earth?

Thought the same thing yesterday. Are we being fooled? Seriously, I smell a big big big joke. Does anyone believe in FE?
*Cough*
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