The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: melonflavour on August 05, 2006, 05:24:59 AM
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I don't believe in a flat earth. To be fair I'm just fuelling the debate cos its fun.
Here's a question. Is the flat earth idea a "belief" or is it thought to be scientific fact?
Many people here seem to think of it as an actual fact whilst many say "I believe..."
What really worries me is that a lot of people seem to be seeing this as a cult thing, and calling each other "brother"
that worries me
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I don't believe in a flat earth. To be fair I'm just fuelling the debate cos its fun.
Here's a question. Is the flat earth idea a "belief" or is it thought to be scientific fact?
Many people here seem to think of it as an actual fact whilst many say "I believe..."
What really worries me is that a lot of people seem to be seeing this as a cult thing, and calling each other "brother"
that worries me
Who calls each other "brother"? There's no cult here. Also, FET is considered science by genuine FE'ers like myself. There's no faith involved - we're just being zetetic and logical.
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This is a quote from the Flat Earth Believers forum, the thread "I see only one Earth, and that is a flat one" (I think thats what is called)
Posted by Bullhorn
"I really find it funny how they can still hold onto a belief of lies and deception, dont you agree brothers?"
Right there
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Ok, well there's by no means a protocol whereby we call eachother "brother", I guess bullhorn just likes to.
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o ok, thanks. It's quite scary for outsiders to see is all.
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Bullhorn is actually everyones biological brother.
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So I suppose that everybody who calls other guys 'brother' is in some sort of cult? I'm more worried about that theory than I am about your continued belief in a round earth. There is a large (very very very large) population of people on this earth who refer to similar such people as 'brother' and 'sister'. Be more afraid of them than some people who have found a place to share their beliefs with similar minded fellows from around the globe.
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alright alright alright, im only saying it seems a bit scary to outsiders possibly.
I mean think of it from this point of view. You go into a group of people who believe in something you don't, and they are so opinionated about this belief that they call each other "brother.
I apologise for being a bit cliche, but it does sound a bit sinister is all. anyway, my question has been answered now so I believe we can leave it be
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I mean think of it from this point of view. You go into a group of people who believe in something you don't, and they are so opinionated about this belief that they call each other "brother.
There's no "they". Bullhorn is the only person who calls us "brothers".
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A cult?! BAH! Silly sod.
Here, have some more Kool-Aid.
(http://www.cyclelicio.us/images/koolaid.jpg)
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Im not trying to offend you dont take my using of brother to seriously.
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Who calls each other "brother"? There's no cult here. Also, FET is considered science by genuine FE'ers like myself. There's no faith involved - we're just being zetetic and logical.
If you want to play in the science sandbox, can you tell me
A) What is the FE Scientific Method?
2) What tests can I perform to prove the FE Scientific Method?
Keep in mind that my reference to the FESM is in the sense of a method that can be applied to other theories, not just those related to proving a flat earth.
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A) What is the FE Scientific Method?
Zeteticism.
2) What tests can I perform to prove the FE Scientific Method?
You can start with the some of the ones in Earth: Not a Globe, it's basically just a book of experiments - and I'm almost certain you haven't personally verified any of them yourself.
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A) What is the FE Scientific Method?
Zeteticism.
wikipedia[/url]"]
The English suffix -ism was first used to form a noun of action from a verb, as in baptism, from baptein, a Greek word meaning "to dip". Its usage was later extended to signify systems of belief.
The -ism suffix can be used to express the following concepts
* doctrine or philosophy (e.g. pacifism, olympism)
* theory developed by an individual (e.g. Marxism)
* political movement (e.g. feminism)
* artistic movement (e.g. cubism)
* action, process or practice (e.g. voyeurism)
* characteristic, quality or origin (e.g. heroism)
* state or condition (e.g. pauperism)
* excess or disease (e.g. botulism)
* prejudice or bias (e.g. racism)
* characteristic speech patterns (e.g. Yogiism, Bushism)
* religion or belief system (e.g. Mormonism)
Many isms are defined as an act or practice by some, while also being defined as the doctrine or philosophy behind the act or practice by others. Examples include activism, altruism, despotism, elitism, optimism, sexism and terrorism.
oh, and
is the flat earth idea a "belief" or is it thought to be scientific fact?
silly billy, some thing that is "thought to be" is a "belief"
:)
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There is no logic involved in the Flat Earth "theory"
Show me a map of what the flat earth looks like.....
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What is the logic involved in trying to convince people that the world is round?
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Science supports the round earth FACT
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You misread my question.
I'm asking what logical reason would you have for deciding to try and convince people that the Earth is round?
I'm asking for the logical reason for your actions - not the logical reasons for the commonly accepted belief or fact about the shape of the Earth.
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Interesting question, I would like to know the answer to that as well.
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Science supports the round earth FACT
Besides being incorrect, that statement is meaningless. You can't prove something with a self-referential argument - "The Earth is round because the Earth is round."
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Science supports the round earth FACT
Besides being incorrect, that statement is meaningless. You can't prove something with a self-referential argument - "The Earth is round because the Earth is round."
"There is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat."
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"There is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat."
Obviously, there must be.
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its true
there is a difforence between "the earth is round becasue its round" and "there is a conspericy becasu the earth is flat"
because
saying somthing is because it is doesnt work, but saying somthing is becasue somthing else is does.
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You misread my question.
I'm asking what logical reason would you have for deciding to try and convince people that the Earth is round?
I'm asking for the logical reason for your actions - not the logical reasons for the commonly accepted belief or fact about the shape of the Earth.
because they dont see the hilarious absurdity of thier actions.
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lol - but that would be an illogical reason for posting on the forum surely?
No. There must be a reason why people try so hard and are so passionate about trying to convince people that the Earth is round. I want to know what that thought process is.
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FET FE'ers logical
These words do not belong in the same sentence.
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There is no logic involved in the Flat Earth "theory"
Show me a map of what the flat earth looks like.....
(http://www.un.int/intimages/biglogo1.gif)
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A) What is the FE Scientific Method?
Zeteticism.
wikipedia[/url]"]
The English suffix -ism was first used to form a noun of action from a verb, as in baptism, from baptein, a Greek word meaning "to dip". Its usage was later extended to signify systems of belief.
The -ism suffix can be used to express the following concepts
* doctrine or philosophy (e.g. pacifism, olympism)
* theory developed by an individual (e.g. Marxism)
* political movement (e.g. feminism)
* artistic movement (e.g. cubism)
* action, process or practice (e.g. voyeurism)
* characteristic, quality or origin (e.g. heroism)
* state or condition (e.g. pauperism)
* excess or disease (e.g. botulism)
* prejudice or bias (e.g. racism)
* characteristic speech patterns (e.g. Yogiism, Bushism)
* religion or belief system (e.g. Mormonism)
Many isms are defined as an act or practice by some, while also being defined as the doctrine or philosophy behind the act or practice by others. Examples include activism, altruism, despotism, elitism, optimism, sexism and terrorism.
oh, and
is the flat earth idea a "belief" or is it thought to be scientific fact?
silly billy, some thing that is "thought to be" is a "belief"
:)
I guess I'll have to let my E&M professor know that Empiricism doesn't fly any more, because mjk said so.
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I guess I'll have to let my E&M professor know that Empiricism doesn't fly any more, because mjk said so.
whats the M in "E&M"?
some definitions (http://www.google.com.au/search?q=define%3A+Empiricism&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official) of Empiricism google define came up with.
"A belief that experience alone is the source of all knowledge."
"branch of philosophy which sees all knowledge as being based in experience"
"A school of thought that proposes that all theory and knowledge should be based on observation"
science believes its methods to be correct, but i'll bet it'd be as stubborn in resisitance as any religion or FE'er if someone were to prove it wrong.
personally, i beleive scientific method and the need for empirical evidence to be sound, but it doesnt have to mean its ultimately right, that there isnt something crazy that EVERYONE is unaware of. for example that the earth is actually flat :lol: a flat earth would throw out so much belief that was supposedly empirically backed up, it would bring empiricism into question wouldnt it?