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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: Wolfenstein on June 25, 2006, 01:31:29 PM

Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Wolfenstein on June 25, 2006, 01:31:29 PM
ok, your claim to the government not letting anyone near the ice wall has been shattered

http://www.coolantarctica.com/Travel/antarctica_travel_home.htm

$4000 USD can get you down there and even ashore on the continent, so there goes at least that portion of your theory
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Xargo on June 25, 2006, 01:34:04 PM
More proof! http://antarctica.istheshit.net/
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Mephistopheles on June 25, 2006, 01:35:12 PM
They brainwash the people taking the cruise into seeing exactly what they wanted them to see:  Antarctica.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Xargo on June 25, 2006, 01:35:55 PM
Quote from: "Mephistopheles"
They brainwash the people taking the cruise into seeing exactly what they wanted them to see:  Antarctica.


Yes,  indeed. But of course, we know all this even though there is no proof whatsoever.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Mephistopheles on June 25, 2006, 01:37:24 PM
I guess you got me there.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Xargo on June 25, 2006, 01:39:20 PM
Well that's what I'm payed to do... uh.. I mean...  :shock:
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Duke on June 25, 2006, 01:54:36 PM
I want to go to Antarctica :(
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Flat Earth Supporter on June 25, 2006, 02:00:30 PM
This is classic reverse psychology.  If they openly forbade Antarctica from being visited, everyone would want to be there.  It's like telling your kid not to steal something from the cookie jar.  By allowing people to visit, they can make it look legitimate and simply brainwash any takers that they get.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: cadmium_blimp on June 25, 2006, 04:11:13 PM
Quote from: "Flat Earth Supporter"
This is classic reverse psychology.  If they openly forbade Antarctica from being visited, everyone would want to be there.  It's like telling your kid not to steal something from the cookie jar.  By allowing people to visit, they can make it look legitimate and simply brainwash any takers that they get.

That, or the fact that there isn't any thing there.  Except for penguins, those little black and white friends of mine.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Wolfenstein on July 01, 2006, 06:18:13 PM
Cad, don't you know anything? penguins were genetically engineered by the russians in the 60s as a source of food for ice wall gaurds who apparently double as tour guides.
     this same technology is what KFC used to create their chickens with no legs, feathers, beaks, or eyes, just blobs that sit there getting fed through an IV and their muscles are toned with electrodes.
     and if nothing else, it says in your FAQ that there are gaurds that won't let anyone near the Ice wall, this disproves that
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Mephistopheles on July 01, 2006, 06:20:05 PM
Quote from: "Wolfenstein"
Cad, don't you know anything? penguins were genetically engineered by the russians in the 60s as a source of food for ice wall gaurds who apparently double as tour guides.
     this same technology is what KFC used to create their chickens with no legs, feathers, beaks, or eyes, just blobs that sit there getting fed through an IV and their muscles are toned with electrodes.


And you find a Flat Earth crazy?
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: newIdea on July 02, 2006, 06:30:12 PM
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They brainwash the people taking the cruise into seeing exactly what they wanted them to see: Antarctica.

And your proof...
For someone who requires proof so much, you sure don't like to give any, do you?  Hypocrisy shows people in a bad light.

Btw, when do you guys come out and say people are stupid for believing this and that it's made-up/it was an experiment to see how gullible people are?  And do you guys know each other from school or something?
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Desu on July 02, 2006, 06:41:23 PM
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They brainwash the people taking the cruise into seeing exactly what they wanted them to see: Antarctica.

And your proof...
For someone who requires proof so much, you sure don't like to give any, do you?  Hypocrisy shows people in a bad light.

Btw, when do you guys come out and say people are stupid for believing this and that it's made-up/it was an experiment to see how gullible people are?  And do you guys know each other from school or something?

I don't know any of these people in real life.
People argue the Flat Earth Theory for different reasons too, some may view it as an experiment, some may just think it's fun to watch people get frustrated at them, and who knows, others may even honestly believe the world to be flat...

Call it devil's advocacy if you will.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: newIdea on July 02, 2006, 07:07:04 PM
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Call it devil's advocacy if you will.

Funny you should mention that:
Mephistopheles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephistopheles)
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: cadmium_blimp on July 02, 2006, 07:08:26 PM
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Call it devil's advocacy if you will.

Funny you should mention that:
Mephistopheles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephistopheles)

That's no secret, ya know.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: newIdea on July 02, 2006, 07:13:11 PM
Hey wow, it's almost like I didn't say it was a secret.

And you guys wonder why you lose arguments...
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: cadmium_blimp on July 02, 2006, 07:16:41 PM
I didn't mean it like that.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: newIdea on July 02, 2006, 07:21:41 PM
Are you sure?  It's a pretty open-and-closed statment.  You're not lying again, are you?

Oh unless you're just using the standard "avoidance" answer the other so called "Flat Earth Believers"(still wierd to type) use, then by all means go ahead.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Mephistopheles on July 02, 2006, 07:22:33 PM
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They brainwash the people taking the cruise into seeing exactly what they wanted them to see: Antarctica.

And your proof...
For someone who requires proof so much, you sure don't like to give any, do you?  Hypocrisy shows people in a bad light.

Btw, when do you guys come out and say people are stupid for believing this and that it's made-up/it was an experiment to see how gullible people are?  And do you guys know each other from school or something?


I don't require much proof.  I simply reiterate that when people make claims, the burden of proof belongs to them, not the other party.

The proof is that people claim to have gone to Antarctica when on the FE Antarctica clearly does not exist.  This either means brainwashing or some sort of uncharted island created in a guise of Antarctica.  Seeing as how Antarctica is so large, these people are obviously not going to traverse the entire continent.  The island is modeled exquisitely detailed after a region of Antarctica.

The island would be large enough that there would be no trouble in believing that it was Antarctica.  This wouldn't have to be extremely large; perhaps the size of a small state in the U.S.  There would be research facilities along the way promoting the misinformation.

Will that work?
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: cadmium_blimp on July 02, 2006, 07:25:51 PM
Quote from: "newIdea"
Are you sure?  It's a pretty open-and-closed statment.  You're not lying again, are you?

Oh unless you're just using the standard "avoidance" answer the other so called "Flat Earth Believers"(still wierd to type) use, then by all means go ahead.

I thought maybe I would point out that you were saying it as if it were some big revelation.  I'm sorry if I said it in a way that caused you to take offense.  The internet often makes it hard to communicate because words on a screen leave out a lot of tone and whatnot.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: newIdea on July 02, 2006, 07:32:31 PM
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I'm sorry if I said it in a way that caused you to take offense.

No offense taken, I enjoyed the humor of it. :wink:

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the burden of proof belongs to them, not the other party.

But of course.  That would be insane for you, the philosopher, to have to give proof for one of your claims.  That might mean you are one the same level as them.

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The proof is that people claim to have gone to Antarctica when on the FE Antarctica clearly does not exist. This either means brainwashing or some sort of uncharted island created in a guise of Antarctica. Seeing as how Antarctica is so large, these people are obviously not going to traverse the entire continent. The island is modeled exquisitely detailed after a region of Antarctica.

The island would be large enough that there would be no trouble in believing that it was Antarctica. This wouldn't have to be extremely large; perhaps the size of a small state in the U.S. There would be research facilities along the way promoting the misinformation.

And where is your proof that someone can be brainwashed to the point of thinking they went to Antartica, when they really went to a government controled area.  And even if that was possible, where's your proof that anyone, living now, has that kind of kowledge?
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Mephistopheles on July 02, 2006, 07:42:20 PM
Quote from: "newIdea"
But of course. That would be insane for you, the philosopher, to have to give proof for one of your claims. That might mean you are one the same level as them.


Don't pin this one on me!  Since when do the people have to prove themselves to someone who makes a blanket claim?  I guess you could say the military, but I suppose that doesn't count here   :wink:

Quote from: "newIdea"
And where is your proof that someone can be brainwashed to the point of thinking they went to Antartica, when they really went to a government controled area.


What, is this not plausible?  Why not?

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And even if that was possible, where's your proof that anyone, living now, has that kind of kowledge?


I already gave you the FE proof:  Antarctica doesn't exist.  People can't go to a place that doesn't exist.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: newIdea on July 02, 2006, 07:58:27 PM
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Don't pin this one on me! Since when do the people have to prove themselves to someone who makes a blanket claim?

I'm sorry, I could've sworn me and you were having a disscussion, my mistake.

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What, is this not plausible? Why not?

Doesn't matter.  I did not ask for plausibility.  You stated it as a fact(atleast from FE's side, which you seem to be "explaining" at the moment), so I asked for proof of these "facts".

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I already gave you the FE proof: Antarctica doesn't exist. People can't go to a place that doesn't exist.

What?  Why do you guys keep straying away from the subject at hand?  I was talking about brainwashing, not Antartica...

Helpful Hint: I bolded the important words, so you can stay on topic. :)
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Mephistopheles on July 02, 2006, 08:06:31 PM
Quote from: "newIdea"
I'm sorry, I could've sworn me and you were having a disscussion, my mistake.


We aren't?  Hmm.  I guess its not important to address your other matters then!

 :roll:
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: newIdea on July 02, 2006, 08:39:00 PM
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We aren't?

Well since I addressed you, and you said I shouldn't, I guess we shouldn't have one if you're not capable.

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I guess its not important to address your other matters then!

If you are unable to address my previous rebuttals, that's fine, but don't degrade yourself by using sarcasm as an excuse to flee from a conversation.  It doesn't shine you in a good light.
Title: Re: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: qwe on July 03, 2006, 01:24:11 AM
Quote from: "Wolfenstein"
ok, your claim to the government not letting anyone near the ice wall has been shattered

http://www.coolantarctica.com/Travel/antarctica_travel_home.htm

$4000 USD can get you down there and even ashore on the continent, so there goes at least that portion of your theory


well surely you can go to antartica.  but if you go over those icy mountains, close enough to see the edge (that would be a long journey from the shore), surely there are guard posts there, if this disc earth model is correct huh
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Wolfenstein on July 03, 2006, 06:11:56 PM
ok, the FAQ says that the government won't let anyone get anywhere near the ice wall, ya might want to amend that to say "without going through the gift shop first"
Title: Re: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: James on July 04, 2006, 05:19:27 AM
Quote from: "qwe"

well surely you can go to antartica.  but if you go over those icy mountains, close enough to see the edge (that would be a long journey from the shore), surely there are guard posts there, if this disc earth model is correct huh


There are. And the guards there will either kill you or buy your silence.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Wolfenstein on July 04, 2006, 07:55:17 PM
yes, it's true, here's a photo of what happened to the last person who got too close to the Ice Wall

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/images/bear-hybrid-photo.jpg
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: quixotic on July 04, 2006, 11:46:40 PM
OK....

My father went Antartica last summer, flying from Sydney to San Tiago, Chile then onto a RUssian Icebreaker with 30 other well minded people and they saw something that you people could never fathom because you claim it as a wall.

To disrespect a beautiful plcae like Antartica and reduce it to a supposed Ice Wall, its a freakin disgrace!!!

On top of that, you telling me that one of the worlds most thriving eco systems is based on one wall?

So all the penguins, birds, seals etc all climb up a wall and sit there to rest??


BWahahahahahahaha!!! Fools!!!
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Rick_James on July 05, 2006, 12:03:34 AM
What about polar bears, man?? Surely they don't only live on the wall? wouldnt there be alot of guard-bear fights? (we've already established that there must be hundreds of thousands if not millions of guards to cover the entire circumference)

I almost asked why dont we hear about these attacks... :lol: probably cause we don't hear about the guards at all!!! lol

i guess they either don't exist, or the conspiracy extends to the world's polar bear population too rofl :roll:
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: EnCrypto on July 05, 2006, 12:19:46 AM
Quote from: "Rick_James"
What about polar bears, man?? Surely they don't only live on the wall? wouldnt there be alot of guard-bear fights? (we've already established that there must be hundreds of thousands if not millions of guards to cover the entire circumference)

I almost asked why dont we hear about these attacks... :lol: probably cause we don't hear about the guards at all!!! lol

i guess they either don't exist, or the conspiracy extends to the world's polar bear population too rofl :roll:

Polar bears live at the north pole, not the south pole.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Rick_James on July 05, 2006, 12:20:43 AM
Really? none in antarctica at all? Gee you learn something new everyday! :wink:
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: semperround on July 05, 2006, 05:35:33 AM
i'm a u.s. marine and i just got pulled off of duty on the ice wall ehh i mean antarctica for a tour in iraq. just to let you know, there is nothing interesting to look at in antarctica so please don't waste your money going i wouldn't want to have to shoot you err have you be dissapointed.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: CrimsonKing on July 05, 2006, 09:53:33 AM
Semper, youre are MC correct?
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: quixotic on July 05, 2006, 04:20:16 PM
Seeeeeeeeef

Antartica is something you should definitely see.

And ill meet you there semper, see how good your training really is  :lol:
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Rick_James on July 05, 2006, 07:15:36 PM
I can see how a fake war in Iraq to monopolise the oil industry is more important than guarding the giant wall that surrounds the earth....  :shock:
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: semperround on July 05, 2006, 10:43:51 PM
the national guard has taken over antarctica and are authorized to beat the living shit outta everyone who aproaches.
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: quixotic on July 05, 2006, 10:45:53 PM
Bring it on, i got  a butterfly and a demon edge that says ill get my ulti off first
Title: proof there is no ice wall security
Post by: Rick_James on July 06, 2006, 01:53:08 AM
WOOOOT  :twisted: PWNT  :twisted: GG NO RMK  :twisted: OMGWTFBBQH4X!!!!!!!