The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: lolwut24 on May 06, 2009, 07:08:13 AM
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I apologize if a similar question has been brought up before. But this site has tons of stickies and pages worth of FAQ's. If this has been discussed before, any poster using the time to type "do a search" or something can just give me a quick answer, so thank you, I appreciate it.
You guys have pictures of the Earth as being flat. Everything is where it should be, but it's on a flat surface, not a round one. How do you explain people taking flights in the opposite direction of their intended destination and still arriving. Your map does not seem to explain how airplane flights heading west from California can arrive at Japan.
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Just to make you guys feel better I spent this time reading through the entire FAQ. It does not seem my question has been aswered. Also the question is kind of broad and to be honest I'm not sure how to sum it up in key words for a search. My best effort of "flights that go around the earth" turned up nothing though.
Hopefully this is now a justified thread, would appreciate an answer :)
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I'm not an FEer, but I think that they would claim that planes actually do not head west, as the GPS companies are in on the conspiracy.
Yes, that is really the type of response you can expect from here on out. Good luck.
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I'm not an FEer, but I think that they would claim that planes actually do not head west, as the GPS companies are in on the conspiracy.
Yes, that is really the type of response you can expect from here on out. Good luck.
Well, theres more than one form of navigation. And one of the questions in FAQ is why do compass's work? They explained compass's via flat earth, but the important thing to note is they accept compass's.
They also argue for their conspiracy to work the only people in it are heads of the orginazations that stand to profit. They state even high government officials may be unaware of the conspiracy. However, in order for this to work all pilots would have to be in on the conspiracy and pretend to fly around the Earth. I think even the FE'ers would agree that's a little far fetched. Also the GPS companies would have to be able to single out all GPS's on flights and then manipulate the signal to make it seem like their going around the world.
Everyone can agree this does not make sense. Still wating for a FE'er explanation...
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I apologize if a similar question has been brought up before. But this site has tons of stickies and pages worth of FAQ's. If this has been discussed before, any poster using the time to type "do a search" or something can just give me a quick answer, so thank you, I appreciate it.
You guys have pictures of the Earth as being flat. Everything is where it should be, but it's on a flat surface, not a round one. How do you explain people taking flights in the opposite direction of their intended destination and still arriving. Your map does not seem to explain how airplane flights heading west from California can arrive at Japan.
tl;dr after the first paragraph. Read the FAQ, or if you really can't be arsed at least go there and ctrl+f it rather than posting.
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Actually, I for one do not believe that all pilots are in on the conspiracy. The earth is circular. Look at the flat earth map and it will be clear how one can travel "around" the world.
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Circumnavigation is still possible on a FE. Read the FAQ,and look at the U.N. flag. It is an example of a map that will show what I mean.
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It appears I did over look one of the questions on the FAQ:
Q: "When traveling in a straight direction, you will always reach the same point on the globe from where you started. How can this happen if the world is flat?"
A: You need to have evidence for this to be true. Also, define "straight." Remember, the northern point on the compass is, under most circumstances (unless near the center or deep in the ice wall), pointing toward the center of the Earth. If you follow your compass due east or due west, ending up at the same point you started from, you've just gone around the world in a circle. Thus, circumnavigation is possible on FE.
I understand what you guys are saying but you have to agree that going around the circumfrence of a circle is not the same as going around a 3-dimensional sphere.
The pilot would have to adjust the plane to turn either left or right as opposed to just staying straight on the sphere. Flights that "go around" the world more or less do so following the same direction and if the pilot did this on FE would he not fly over the ice wall and fall over the edge of the Earth?
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I understand what you guys are saying but you have to agree that going around the circumfrence of a circle is not the same as going around a 3-dimensional sphere.
The pilot would have to adjust the plane to turn either left or right as opposed to just staying straight on the sphere.
No, they are actually still turning in a circle, whether FE or RE. Picture yourself walking due west, ten feet south of the north pole. Are you travelling in a straight line or a circle?
Flights that "go around" the world more or less do so following the same direction and if the pilot did this on FE would he not fly over the ice wall and fall over the edge of the Earth?
A plane would never be able to fly in a straight line anyway without navigational equipment. The curve in this case is negligible.
The Ice Wall corresponds to RE Antarctica. Going due east or west one would never encounter it.
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Lets just for a moment think circumnavigation was happening on this scale.
WHAT ROUTE IS THE SHORTEST? The red one, where you fly over the Pacific Ocean and then arrive in Japan, or the green one where you circumnavigate around the Southern Ocean or whatever? We know how far the Pacific Ocean is. We know how fast planes fly and how much fuel they consume. We know how long they take to arrive at their distination. We then know that they do not infact circumnavigate around the world. Don't you think pilots/captains/the fine instruments of a plane would notice going on such sharp turns? Don't you think they would notice flying so close to Africa and Antarctica and the Ice Wall and Australia? Dont you think they would notice their flights taking three times as long as it should?
Here, take a look at this picture. Pretty much all of the Pacific Ocean is on this picture. You can see that the green routes is 3 times as long as the red one. And it would be even longer actually, because the ice wall had to be alot further away because they would NOTICE IT FROM UP THERE.
(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/568/flatearth1.png)
Oh yeah, and I have heard you believe the world is flat because it looks that way from out your window.
LOOK AT THIS SOLID PROOF
(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1044/image123.jpg)
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Lets bump this sh*t
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Lets just for a moment think circumnavigation was happening on this scale.
WHAT ROUTE IS THE SHORTEST? The red one, where you fly over the Pacific Ocean and then arrive in Japan, or the green one where you circumnavigate around the Southern Ocean or whatever? We know how far the Pacific Ocean is. We know how fast planes fly and how much fuel they consume. We know how long they take to arrive at their distination. We then know that they do not infact circumnavigate around the world. Don't you think pilots/captains/the fine instruments of a plane would notice going on such sharp turns? Don't you think they would notice flying so close to Africa and Antarctica and the Ice Wall and Australia? Dont you think they would notice their flights taking three times as long as it should?
Here, take a look at this picture. Pretty much all of the Pacific Ocean is on this picture. You can see that the green routes is 3 times as long as the red one. And it would be even longer actually, because the ice wall had to be alot further away because they would NOTICE IT FROM UP THERE.
(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/568/flatearth1.png)
Oh yeah, and I have heard you believe the world is flat because it looks that way from out your window.
LOOK AT THIS SOLID PROOF
(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1044/image123.jpg)
Does anyone fly over Antarctica to travel from Mexico to Pakistan???
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A plane would never be able to fly in a straight line anyway without navigational equipment. The curve in this case is negligible.
The Ice Wall corresponds to RE Antarctica. Going due east or west one would never encounter it.
Uh... Any comercial or military plane is equiped with navigational equipment. Do you deny this? or is it all part of the big cover up? the equipment is designed to force small coarse corrections to trick the pilots and militart personell too?
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Lets just for a moment think circumnavigation was happening on this scale.
WHAT ROUTE IS THE SHORTEST? The red one, where you fly over the Pacific Ocean and then arrive in Japan, or the green one where you circumnavigate around the Southern Ocean or whatever? We know how far the Pacific Ocean is. We know how fast planes fly and how much fuel they consume. We know how long they take to arrive at their distination. We then know that they do not infact circumnavigate around the world. Don't you think pilots/captains/the fine instruments of a plane would notice going on such sharp turns? Don't you think they would notice flying so close to Africa and Antarctica and the Ice Wall and Australia? Dont you think they would notice their flights taking three times as long as it should?
Here, take a look at this picture. Pretty much all of the Pacific Ocean is on this picture. You can see that the green routes is 3 times as long as the red one. And it would be even longer actually, because the ice wall had to be alot further away because they would NOTICE IT FROM UP THERE.
(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/568/flatearth1.png)
Oh yeah, and I have heard you believe the world is flat because it looks that way from out your window.
LOOK AT THIS SOLID PROOF
(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1044/image123.jpg)
Do you have Parkinson's Disease?
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Do you have Parkinson's Disease?
I think he was using an etch-a-sketch.
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can you provide a flight path that takes the red line? one that has been used?
if the earth was flat than they should indeed take a straight flight path, but it's shorter over the north pole than the south pole.