The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: Luke_smith64 on June 09, 2006, 09:13:41 AM
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Why is the post "The Sun and the FE model" Locked? its author is Scruffy
Couldn't you huys answer his post?
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I can't seem to find it... could you provide a link?
Btw, this sort of thing is better handled in a PM. Just for future reference.
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Why is it locked? I saw it a few days ago, and wanted to rip it to shreads, since scruffy obviously knows nothing about the workings of the sun!
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Why is the post "The Sun and the FE model" Locked? its author is Scruffy
Couldn't you huys answer his post?
The arguments he poses are all wrong. Every single one of his statements is backwards.
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http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2481
his argument is completely valid.
if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish
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Ah. I'm guessing that thread is locked because he's talking about the same thing in another thread.
if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad,
His ideas, at least in that post, of what fusion and fission are are both backwards (in terms of which is which) and mostly wrong (in terms of the amount of space required for the reactions to take place).
This was all discussed and some of his errors uncovered and rectified in the other thread; apparently you were unaware of it.
The new thread stays locked.
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http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2481
his argument is completely valid.
if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish
HAHA...Looks like you need to go back to school!!! Talk about me looking foolish, you now look like an idiot.
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why would i likelike an idiot? is it because i misspelled something?
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why would i likelike an idiot? is it because i misspelled something?
No; rather because you are trying (in a sort of flailing, ungraceful way) to defend an idea that even the original author admitted was misguided.
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You look like an idiot because you tried to tell me that all his statements were valid and that I need to go back to school. Well, if you had actually gone to the 9th grade, you would see the errors in his statements.
Let me break it down for you:
Fission takes much more space and produces much more energy.
Fusion is what powers the sun and it creates magnitues of energy more than fission.
Such a fission system does not exist on Earth.
Every nuclear reactor on Earth is a fission system.
Nuclear arms are powered by fusion. Requires a lot less space and produces less energy
Nuclear arms powered by fission are 1940's standard. The bombs used in WWII-fission, and about 10 - 15 kilo tons of TNT. Fusion bombs, like those today, are measured in MEGA tons of TNT that is a factor of 1000 times the power.
But because the sun is powered by fission,
It has to be much further away.
So theres another hole in the FE model.
Again, the sun is powered by fusion, not fission. If it was fission, it would have to be much closer to us.
Now go back to school, and leave the physics to those of us that understand it.
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was i the one who wrote that
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No, you just told me I was stupid for not believing it. So I guess it turns out you were stupid for believing it.
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http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2481
his argument is completely valid.
if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish
you got that i was calling you stupid out of that
maybe i was calling you stupid for another reason, because your an illogical idiot perhaps
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What, of what I have said, makes me an illogical idiot?
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well, apperantlyyour an engineer, and i thought youd have more sense than a idiot
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well, apparently you're an engineer, and I thought you'd have more sense than a idiot.
So you make a statement, he points out how your statement is flawed (and it is), and he becomes an illogical idiot? I'm not sure I understand your reasoning behind this.
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What have I said that makes me out to be an idiot?
I believe it is you who are making yourself out to be an idiot by not being knowledgeable about the subject matter you are talking about. As an engineer...physics is my profession. If I am not well versed in the topic of discussion, I don't chime in. Maybe you should do the same.
Like I said before, leave physics to those of us who understand it.
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how is my statement flawed. first of all, it wasnt my statment, second of all its not flawed, and third of all, uncle jim bob is fat
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how is my statement flawed. first of all, it wasnt my statment
It wasn't your statement. I never said it was. However, this is what you said:
his argument is completely valid.
if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish
You were trying to tell me I had less than a ninth grade education because your knowledge of the nuclear world was far superior to mine.
second of all its not flawed
This statement just goes to show your stupidity. I have previously explained why the original poster's arguments were wrong. If you had bothered to go to ninth grade you would know I was correct. The least you could have done was look it up online before responding.
And then you go on to this:
maybe i was calling you stupid for another reason, because your an illogical idiot perhaps
Everything I have said has been completely logical and well informed. Everything you have said has gone to show your complete ignorance of physics. You continue to defend your original statement even though you have no FREAKIN' idea what you are talking about.
Now, you have called me an illogical idiot. What have I said to make this so?
This is not the first thread you have replied in that shows your inneptitude. So do us all a favor before you post. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND DO SOME FREAKIN' RESEARCH!
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No, you just told me I was stupid for not believing it. So I guess it turns out you were stupid for believing it.
where on the forum did i sya i believed it. i was ondering why you guys wouldnt answer his question
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject:
Luke_smith64 wrote:
how is my statement flawed. first of all, it wasnt my statment
It wasn't your statement. I never said it was. However, this is what you said:
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his argument is completely valid.
if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish
and good for you that is waht i said, but no one was answering his post, so what was stopping me from thinking you were all blithering idiots
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third of all, uncle jim bob is fat
Don't bring this up again. Further posts by you which point this out in a similarly irrelevant manner will be deleted without warning.
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there are entire posts created by uncle jim bob, have rellivant answers, and then a statment about his gravitational pull
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where on the forum did i sya i believed it. i was ondering why you guys wouldnt answer his question
You said it right here:
his argument is completely valid.
if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish
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i didnt say i believd it did i
his argument is completely valid.
if you dont know the diffences on fussion in fission (which you learn in grade 9) thats too bad, but saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish
i never say i beleive in something unless i am absolutely sure
i said his argument is valid, and if you didnt want to answer him, and locked his post, then i would think you are all idiots who couldnt rebuttle a questions about fission/fussion
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where on the forum did i sya i believed it.
Well certainly the statement
saying something is backwords bwecause you dont understand it is foolish
would seem to be an accusation that we are foolish, and that the only reason we said Scruffy was confusing fission with fusion was because we don't understand it (indicating that we either skipped or failed 9th grade science), which would imply that you believed Scruffy's notions of fission and fusion to be correct (otherwise surely you would have realized that the degree to which his questions made no sense and were "backwords" made them unanswerable).
and good for you that is waht i said, but no one was answering his post, so what was stopping me from thinking you were all blithering idiots
Let me get this straight. You saw a post that nobody was answering, and you assumed that everybody who wasn't answering it was therefore a blithering idiot?
Aside from the fact that that's inconceivably stupid, did it occur to you that maybe nobody was responding in that thread because the thread was locked? Oh, wait, you did notice that: you mentioned it in your first post!
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i didnt say i believd it did i
I'm unsure how to resolve statement this with
i said his argument is valid,
unless you meant "valid but unsound", which somehow I find unlikely, and which isn't true anyway.
and if you didnt want to answer him, and locked his post, then i would think you are all idiots who couldnt rebuttle a questions about fission/fussion
Yes yes, you can stop mentioning that now, since we did rebuttle (sic) his valid argument (sic) in another thread, and, as I said, the thread which you asked about was locked beause it was a duplicate post.
I thought we'd been over that.
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here we go again. your making something out of nothing. your twisting my statements against me with no actuall proof (sound familiar?)
and now for this, i want ABSOLUTE PROOF PROVING THE EARTH IS FLAT
the RE society has ABSOLUTE PROFF PROVING THE EARTH SI ROUND
your proof is just a conspiracy
so now, where is your proof
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your twisting my statements against me
No, I'm just repeating them. They were twisted against you to begin with.
with no actuall proof
Proof of what? That that's the most obvious interpretation of your statements? You haven't offered an alternative.
and now for this, i want ABSOLUTE PROOF PROVING THE EARTH IS FLAT
You won't get it.
the RE society has ABSOLUTE PROFF PROVING THE EARTH SI ROUND
Can you give me a link to this Society's website, so that I can read their FAQ?
If they don't have a website, can you briefly summarize this "absolute proof", and explain the way in which it is "absolute proof" and not merely "good evidence"?
your proof is just a conspiracy
Hm, well, I agree that the FE society is conspiring to find evidence that the Earth is flat, but that act does not itself constitute proof, nor do they claim that it does.
Okay so, certainly in this particular post I've been twisting your words around. But you have to admit, you write in such a manner as to make your meaning pretty ambiguous. Do you speak this way as well? I'm really finding it difficult to communicate with you.
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id it dousnt constitue proof, you have none, so your FES is wrong. by RES i was reffering to people who believe in a round earth,(sensible people)
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id it dousnt constitue proof, you have none, so your FES is wrong. by RES i was reffering to people who believe in a round earth,(sensible people)
I am now convinced you never made it to the 9th grade. Your grammar and sentence structure is horrible! I don't like having to translate your type into something I can understand.
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im not trying to be grammaticly correct here, its a forum. i dont need to capitalize, use abreviations and colens when need. hell, i dont even need to spell correctly, if you really want to know, i have taken many college programs on rhe english language, passing with flying colors. now some of my words may be mispelled because you are americans, and i am canadain, and we hae diffrent words. ex. color colour, meter metre, litre, liter
other words i mispell are just because i dont give a fuck, maybe im in a rush?
if you must know i am enrolled in grade 11 and have more intelligence then you, or your mother will ever have
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im not trying to be grammaticly correct here, its a forum. i dont need to capitalize, use abreviations and colens when need. hell, i dont even need to spell correctly,
You don't need to, but you ought to if you want to communicate effectively with people.
if you really want to know, i have taken many college programs on rhe english language, passing with flying colors.
That's... difficult to believe.
now some of my words may be mispelled because you are americans, and i am canadain, and we hae diffrent words. ex. color colour, meter metre, litre, liter
Firstly, I would have thought you would have a better idea about the location of Vancouver, being that you are from Kelowna. Perhaps you should have taken some geography classes instead of taking up space in those "college programs on the english language" that apparently did you no good.
Secondly, I don't recall hearing you use these words... mostly its "im" and "canadain" and "grammaticly" and "id" and "rhe" and "colens".
other words i mispell are just because i dont give a fuck, maybe im in a rush?
In a rush? How much time have you spent on this forum today?
if you must know i am enrolled in grade 11 and have more intelligence then you, or your mother will ever have
I weep for the future.
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You obviously need to take more than a few science classes to catch up to the understanding of a 9th grader.
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eramus, you werent in this converasation were you, but oh well.
Luke_smith64 wrote:
im not trying to be grammaticly correct here, its a forum. i dont need to capitalize, use abreviations and colens when need. hell, i dont even need to spell correctly,
You don't need to, but you ought to if you want to communicate effectively with people.
i can comnnunicate just as effectivley as anyone else who doesnt use propper grammer
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if you really want to know, i have taken many college programs on rhe english language, passing with flying colors.
That's... difficult to believe.
well thats your choice if you wish ot believe me, the FES, or the RE
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now some of my words may be mispelled because you are americans, and i am canadain, and we hae diffrent words. ex. color colour, meter metre, litre, liter
Firstly, I would have thought you would have a better idea about the location of Vancouver, being that you are from Kelowna. Perhaps you should have taken some geography classes instead of taking up space in those "college programs on the english language" that apparently did you no good.
have you ever said you were in vancouver? no, and this question was put out to theengineer, who is most like an american (only people stupid enough to believe this)
Secondly, I don't recall hearing you use these words... mostly its "im" and "canadain" and "grammaticly" and "id" and "rhe" and "colens".
im sorry if i dont take the time to spellcheck every little mis-type, like you oh great one
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other words i mispell are just because i dont give a fuck, maybe im in a rush?
In a rush? How much time have you spent on this forum today?
you think all i do is sit on this computer, i find shit to do around the house, maybe other people need the computer aswell
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if you must know i am enrolled in grade 11 and have more intelligence then you, or your mother will ever have
I weep for the future.
if i ever find you i am going to kill you
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When did I ever say that I believed in a flat earth? I was mearly arguing the finer points of nuclear physics.
As for you having more intellegence than I, you must be smoking crack or maybe have gotten a bit of frostbite on your brain. I don't know how the school system in Canada works, but here in the states, 11th grade is the 2nd year of high school.
You are constantly making an ass out of yourself by trying to defend your obvious lack of intellegence by insulting my intellegence.
Based on what you have stated in this discussion as well as many others, you have no understanding of even the most basic of physical processes. You are constantly making up ignorant examples of how the world works (balls attached to strings that act as gravity?) and when told that your idea is ludicris, you cry, 'that is not what I meant. You keep twisting my words around'.
If you are an example of what the school system is puting out these days, then I also weep for the future.
Edited: I was mad when I wrote this.
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wellthe how would you explain the creation of the galixies in a non spherical way. the balls-on-a-string was a good analogie, if an engineer cant figure that out, her deserves to be killed
where do you live
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wellthe how would you explain the creation of the galixies in a non spherical way. the balls-on-a-string was a good analogie, if an engineer cant figure that out, her deserves to be killed
where do you live
I still have no idea what process you were trying to explain by the balls on a string example.
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the string would be acting as a gravitational pull, and if you have millions oall tied togeth the order of the balls would be random, but would still cluster togeth
if the position was spherical, cylindrical, or flat, it doesnt matter
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They would cluster together because they are attached! They can't go anywhere!
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yes, it was just an example, use elastic cords and chewing gum, some get pulled back some rip off. it's just an example of how gravity would keep them all together
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yes, it was just an example, use elastic cords and chewing gum, some get pulled back some rip off. it's just an example of how gravity would keep them all together
If they got ripped off, then 'gravity' is not doing a good job holding stuff together.
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obviously
but think about this, what if a 'planet' was moving at such a force it went beyond another larger planets or stars gravitational pull, then it would be in sense, ripped off
something that might cuase this force is something that created all the galexies anyways, the big bang
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Wow, I must have really stumped you Fe'ers, I havent even gotten the few irrelivent responses, and the one failed attemt at an answer.
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Still no replies, I win again it seems.
Again,
again,
again....