The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: AJComix on August 24, 2008, 07:16:23 PM
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I've read your FAQ. Prove to me the Earth isn't round.
Yes, the FAQ answered none of my questions.
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What are your questions?
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Prove to me the earth isn't flat.
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What are your questions?
I would ask if you are all able to walk straight, but that would make the fascist admins get all pissy. So I'll ask.
Proof for flat Earth?
Why does it matter?
How would the government profit from the supposition of a round Earth?
Do you all realize that you are quite alone in this argument?
Basically that.
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No answers?
Not surprised.
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You gave us three minutes. ::)
And by the way, your questions can all be answered with this (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?action=search;advanced).
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Proof for flat Earth?
Why does it matter?
How would the government profit from the supposition of a round Earth?
Do you all realize that you are quite alone in this argument?
Yes.
...Um.... Is that a serious question?
Easily.
Do you mean just me, or the multiple millions of us worldwide?
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Proof for flat Earth?
1) Look out your window.
2) Read the FAQ.
3) Read Earth: Not A Globe.
4) Use the search function.
5) Lurk moar.
Why does it matter?
Some of us believe in the truth. Can't you respect that?
How would the government profit from the supposition of a round Earth?
This is actually answered in the FAQ, but I'll explain anyway...
The government is probably not a willing participant in the conspiracy. Most of us believe that they are as duped as the rest of the world. NASA and the other space agencies are the real villains. They take in billions of dollars of funding each year. They use some of this money to manufacture lies and propaganda (fake moon landings, fake rocket launches, fake photos etc.) and then pocket the surplus cash. After all, it takes much less money to fake a space program than to actually run one. The government does not know this, so NASA makes a huge profit each year.
Do you all realize that you are quite alone in this argument?
Just because an argument is unpopular does not mean it is not true. You sound like a creationist.
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Oscar wins.
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Proof for flat Earth?
1) Look out your window.
2) Read the FAQ.
3) Read Earth: Not A Globe.
4) Use the search function.
5) Lurk moar.
Why does it matter?
Some of us believe in the truth. Can't you respect that?
How would the government profit from the supposition of a round Earth?
This is actually answered in the FAQ, but I'll explain anyway...
The government is probably not a willing participant in the conspiracy. Most of us believe that they are as duped as the rest of the world. NASA and the other space agencies are the real villains. They take in billions of dollars of funding each year. They use some of this money to manufacture lies and propaganda (fake moon landings, fake rocket launches, fake photos etc.) and then pocket the surplus cash. After all, it takes much less money to fake a space program than to actually run one. The government does not know this, so NASA makes a huge profit each year.
Do you all realize that you are quite alone in this argument?
Just because an argument is unpopular does not mean it is not true. You sound like a creationist.
I looked out my window. The Earth CURVES.
I'm an Atheist.
I've read the FAQ, I've told you that multiple times. I'm actually leaving the site now. I gave this a shot because some of my fellow freethinkers thought it would be a good idea to try to discuss things with you nuts, but they were wrong.
I'm off to bust some heads, this was a waste of my time.
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Bust a move too!
l8r sk8r
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I looked out my window. The Earth CURVES.
Even according to Round Earth Theory, the curvature should not be visible at such low altitude. This means you're a liar. There goes your credibility.
I've read the FAQ, I've told you that multiple times. I'm actually leaving the site now. I gave this a shot because some of my fellow freethinkers thought it would be a good idea to try to discuss things with you nuts, but they were wrong.
I'm off to bust some heads, this was a waste of my time.
Well, I answered all of your questions and you refuted none of my answers at all. This means that it's yet another victory for FE! :D
Have fun making more videos whining about evolution that no one will ever watch. I'm sure that's much less a waste of your time.
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Yeah, great discussion, and started off nicely with you being immensly rude to us. But what can you expect from close minded folk?
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Proof for flat Earth?
1) Look out your window.
2) Read the FAQ.
3) Read Earth: Not A Globe.
4) Use the search function.
5) Lurk moar.
Why does it matter?
Some of us believe in the truth. Can't you respect that?
How would the government profit from the supposition of a round Earth?
This is actually answered in the FAQ, but I'll explain anyway...
The government is probably not a willing participant in the conspiracy. Most of us believe that they are as duped as the rest of the world. NASA and the other space agencies are the real villains. They take in billions of dollars of funding each year. They use some of this money to manufacture lies and propaganda (fake moon landings, fake rocket launches, fake photos etc.) and then pocket the surplus cash. After all, it takes much less money to fake a space program than to actually run one. The government does not know this, so NASA makes a huge profit each year.
Do you all realize that you are quite alone in this argument?
Just because an argument is unpopular does not mean it is not true. You sound like a creationist.
I looked out my window. The Earth CURVES.
I'm an Atheist.
I've read the FAQ, I've told you that multiple times. I'm actually leaving the site now. I gave this a shot because some of my fellow freethinkers thought it would be a good idea to try to discuss things with you nuts, but they were wrong.
I'm off to bust some heads, this was a waste of my time.
No, please don't go, if you actually ask a legitimate question we'd be happy to answer it for you.
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After all, he came in with such an open-minded attitude. ::)
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You guys are talkin' to the hand cuz this d00d just biz-ounced.
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Prove to me the earth isn't flat.
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He axed it all reversificatin like.
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Prove to me the earth isn't flat.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22317.0 (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22317.0)
These results are inconsistent with the idea of a flat earth.
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But he took the time and got that snazzy avatar on there...
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In another thread, I was asking how much air is needed to appreciate the opacity, in quantity, I recieved no answer.
The existence of another page called "flat mars" confirms that you are but a bunch of guys trying to look special and arguing with the reality just because.
And how you DARE to call close minded to another person, when you are brave enough to say something like: "I BELIEVE IN THE TRUTH", in a supposed truth in which all scientific community is laughing at, that nobody really believes, even yourselves! In this society not even you agree with each others, some believe in a infinite earth, others in an ice wall, and dark energy! What kind of study is this? What kind of people could believe a society that has NO CLEAR IDEAS about one same thing.
And by the way, you know what the Occam's razor is? Read about it or... ignore my post.
Save the four answers:
Lurk moar, read the faq, read earth not a globe, and use the searching
Try to shut my mouth up.
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I'm an Atheist.
So are most of us. What's your point?
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The thread starter pretty much summed up my own questions regarding FE.
I, too, read the FAQ and found it wanting. To say the least. The FAQ is structured in the usual
Q. <question>
A. <presumably answer>
style. There are a lot of Qs and As. BUT, and here comes the trip wire leading to fruitless
flamewars:
The As do not really contain satisfying "answers" (and it is the word "answer" which the As stand for, right?)
One-liners are not really suitable for answering questions regarding the hows and whys of the whole matter.
But since the discussion once more went just down the tube instead of shedding some
light on the subject, I goto start and ask again:
Why do you think the earth is flat?
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You said: because it looks this way up close.
Is that so? Yes, maybe, if I look down at my feet I could not argue much with you.
Imagine you are on a boat on the open sea. If earth would be flat how come you cannot see the shore, or, the ice wall?
There should be nothing between you and the next mountain except the large flat surface of the water.
How come everything that moves away from your point of view "disappears" some miles in the distance?
And why does it look like as if those things disappear bottom-up?
There are attempts in this forum to come up with an explanation for this along the lines:
- light curvature due to atmospheric effects
- cohesion of the water surface because water is a polar subetance
These are nothing but presuptions in an attempt to explain observations. While it COULD be, that you are right
all claims you make on this subject come without scientific support, work, papers, experiments and
such. I won't use the word "proof" here ;)
Why do you thing there is a conspiracy to make all of us believe that earth is round?
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I know there is an A to this Q in the FAQ. But ... really, could you give us some more than the
link to a list of assumptions, which really do a poor job backing up this conspiracy theory?
You know, there is like, one guy (Dioptimus Drime) who wrote down his thoughts about the hows and whys of this
conspicary. This is by far not enough. And I don't want to read the book you mentioned.
I am pretty sure you could rip the most revealing parts from it and summarize your findings here (in the FAQ)
without infringing somones copyright?
So the FAQ left me wondering about the why. This cannot be all you've got on this one.
Numbers.
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In some fields you are surprisingly generous with information and numbers. You state that the moon's (and sun's)
diameter is 32 miles.
The "The Conclusive Categorical Conspiracy Compendium" has a lot to say about the exact amount of people needed
to keep the conspiracy running, but cuts out the parts where it is supposed to explain where the numbers came from.
Statistics? Field research? Unbelievably dense and complete insight of the author in the world's economy and politics?
And then some more numbers. Unexplained.
How do you know all this?
And I would pretty much appreciate an answer explaining the "how". Not just "someone important came up with
these overwhelmingly plausible research results"
It should be possible to publish your sources, experiment setups, formulas and such to back it all up.
And by "sources" I do not mean references to texts full of claims and assumptions.
If all is true:
Earth flat. Evil government prospering on mankinds misconception of earth's roundness. No way of looking behind the
scenes because the Secret Service, NASA, all mighty and influential agencies of the world control everything, everyone, everytime.
They even control and censor every picture ever published, in print or the net, of a seemingly round earth.
If this is all true, how do YOU know?
Best regards,
FSM
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Imagine you are on a boat on the open sea. If earth would be flat how come you cannot see the shore, or, the ice wall?
Atmospheric density, atmospheric refraction, the vanishing point.
There should be nothing between you and the next mountain except the large flat surface of the water.
And air; air isn't clear.
How come everything that moves away from your point of view "disappears" some miles in the distance?
The equivalent resolution of the human eye results in the vanishing point.
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@divito the thruthist
Atmospheric density, atmospheric refraction, the vanishing point.
why do you bother answering when you obviously do not have the time to completely read my post first?
and, no, no answer needed for this rethorical question :)
And air; air isn't clear.
.. which does exactly noting to explain the drop-below-the-horizon-effect I was referring to by using the more
simple term "disappearing".
come on guys I am really willing to be enlighted. I am not looking for "facts" and "proofs" here.
just a little bit plausiblility would be enough :)
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If this is all true, how do YOU know?
Unlike most of the world, apparently, I trust my senses.
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2 days waiting for an answer:
HOW MANY AIR IS NEEDED TO APPRECIATE OPACITY?
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2 days waiting for an answer:
HOW MANY AIR IS NEEDED TO APPRECIATE OPACITY?
4 of them.
1 so we can breathe.
1 to keep hot air balloons airbourne &
2 to sit in deck chairs watching, clinking beers together and appreciating.
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2 days waiting for an answer:
HOW MANY AIR IS NEEDED TO APPRECIATE OPACITY?
4 of them.
1 so we can breathe.
1 to keep hot air balloons airbourne &
2 to sit in deck chairs watching, clinking beers together and appreciating.
You're trying to make me cry on desperation, right? :'(
I'll say it again:
WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF AIR NEEDED AS A MINIMUM, TO START APPRECIATING THE OPACITY THAT IT CAUSES ACCORDING TO THE FET?
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And air; air isn't clear.
.. which does exactly noting to explain the drop-below-the-horizon-effect I was referring to by using the more
simple term "disappearing".
Given that air isn't clear, and that the atmosphere is a gradient, the lowest point will have more obstruction than a point above it due to the compounding atmosphere. This, in theory, would showcase objects to disappear from the bottom up.