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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Debate => Topic started by: st3w on June 02, 2008, 03:04:07 PM
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so if the Earth is flat, why is there a magnetic north and south, and
why when i take off in a plane i can see the CURVATURE of the earth.
and like...u dont fall of when walk to the edge?
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1. Why wouldn't there be?
2. No you can't.
3. You haven't walked to the edge.
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Me fail English? That's unpossible!
In answer to the questions:
Same reasons as on a Round Earth.
You can't see it.
There's a giant wall of ice and plenty of ice beyond it. Nobody knows how much but it's not an immediate edge.
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hold on, so your telling me NO ONE has ever went ROUND the world? may i remind you of round the world trips? or are they all government cover-ups ey? nah i dont think so, infact michel Palin did it if i remember correctly, and i doubt very much one of hte Monty Pythin five is part of a government Nasa cover-up.
also, whats this "wall of ice" drabble? u think if there was a wall of ice we would be worrying about global warming?
also, if the earth ISNT round...once again...when i am in a plane, i can look out my window and see QUITE WELL heading to 30,000ft the clouds curvature.
also, with this "the money in the 60s was spent on making it LOOK like they went in space" ...rubbish....seriously, not even CGI can do what you see in space, especially modern voyages, i know about graphics and if it was possible then, films like lord of the rings would have been done in the 60s.
satellites? anyone? the orbit the earth (because it is round) and like, you can SEE them doing so...through telescopes, but then again "maybe every scientist is part of the cover-up" (i think not)
MAGNEtIC FIELD anyone? you know what it is, you know what it does, it wouldnt work with the earth being FLAT, but they are there, you have NORTHERN LIGHTS.
also, re-touch on your wall if ice theory...have you "ever seen it"?
also i will make a point to number 2, dont tell me what i can and cant see, not only CAN you see the curvature of the earth at high altitude, but tourists can PAY russians to go almost in to orbit..and it is, QUITE visable form there...but then again "they must be part of the cover-up"
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Does not compute...Brrrrp....Bzzzzt.....refraction....look out window....Snell's Law....Prrrrp
Document.print{Read FAQ};
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hold on, so your telling me NO ONE has ever went ROUND the world?
Please read our FAQ.
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ive read it. its pretty made up. tbh you people have NO proof. and you still never told me why u CANT SEE this mountain range that "happens" to be covered in snow, but YOU lot would know that, because, evidently, youve seen it...oh wait...no you havnt.
seriously i look forward to seeing this magical invisible non-existent mountain range...wait...
the point is, it may be very well for an FAQ just to basically list what is obviously un-sensical rubbish, founded on NO proof, go, take a picture, show it to the world, or maybe, you samsung digital camera is in on the conspiracy!!
and for the love of god, dont avoid it and just say "look at the FAQ" because the FAQ is BS - the earth can be seen, by ANYONE who goes HIGH ENOUGH to be ROUND. and no, not astronauts, not the government, and not wizards, people, for example who pay money to go in to orbit, normal people, with 2k.
still not compute? wouldnt surprise me.
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ive read it. its pretty made up. tbh you people have NO proof. and you still never told me why u CANT SEE this mountain range that "happens" to be covered in snow, but YOU lot would know that, because, evidently, youve seen it...oh wait...no you havnt.
The atmosphere is not perfectly transparent.
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oh come on, im not suggesting u look at it tens of thousands of miles away from your bedroom window, what i am saying is
u think there is an invisible army guarding it? i mean, im not saying its impossible to guard things (ie area51) but, there is NO HISTORY, NO RECORDS or PAST DOWN EXPEriENCE
of
ANY
civilization, peoples, travelers, explorers discovering it. or where they the "ye olde NASA conspirers?" i think not. cmon, you really think no one would notice such a guarded ice wall? rubbish. not only would countries probably FIGHT over it, but people would CERTAINLY notice.
and also, dont ignore parts of my argument and single out the shortest ones so you can give it a quick, cheap, pointless wee come back...like the "the atmosphere is not perfectly transparent" not only do i KNOW that, but thats like saying
"st3w's house is miles away, the atmosphere isnt transparent, so we cant see it..." but u STILL can get CLOSE enough to see it, even if it was guarded for a THOUSAND MILES, you would GET TO THE DEFENSE wouldnt you not?
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A little reading would show you not all FE'ers believe an ice wall is necessary. I'm split on the issue as several ancient cosmologies depict a wall of mountains ringing the flat earth, and several high altitude pictures might depict an ice wall. I also don't believe it is heavily guarded. It's remoteness guards it quite efficiently.
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but you cant prove its existence, because, no one has ever seen it....in the past mountains depicted as bit are ranges such as the HIMALAYAS - so its so remote, no humans evolved on it? it just "skipped" world history did it?
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Antarctica is several times larger than Australia. Are you suggesting people inhabited and evolved on Antarctica? Do you have any proof of this claim?
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^ i dont have proof of a claim i never made m8 ;)
i thought these where mountains just happened to be covered on snow? well, even if they where, there would be a HABITABLE boundary at LEAST close to it, look at the north pole,, head south and it gradually turns in to alaska, the is plenty life there, and even then, it would not take an idiot to work out, ONCE AGAIN that it would be EASILY OBVIOUS to EVERYONE that there is SOMETHING HUGE we HAVNT EXPLORED - COME ON
what countries does the guard start at? where ARE these mountains (well, we all know they are no where, really because they dont exist).
come on, its so obvious, your theory is total rubbish, its made up, you are all delusional, because to SUGGEST that SINCE THE DAWN ON MAN the EARTH is a cylinder shape surrounded by massive mountains, no one has
1. discovered
2. documented
3. visited
4. photographed
5. proved
it is, in one word, OBSCURED, it is the most OBSCURE approach to geography i have ever seen and i honestly dont know what you people eat. even your replies are rubbish...you just make more crap up!
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Posted on: Today at 04:13:21 PMPosted by: Ski.Antarctica is several times larger than Australia. Are you suggesting people inhabited and evolved on Antarctica? Do you have any proof of this claim?
he did not even say anything about antactica you nooby dumb penguin jesus,i dont know why you find a round earth so hard to belive just get out side more fucking hell
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Posted on: Today at 04:13:21 PMPosted by: Ski.Antarctica is several times larger than Australia. Are you suggesting people inhabited and evolved on Antarctica? Do you have any proof of this claim?
he did not even say anything about antactica
Wasn't he talking about the ice wall? ???
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in the past mountains depicted as bit are ranges such as the HIMALAYAS - so its so remote, no humans evolved on it? it just "skipped" world history did it?
Looks like you're suggesting people evolved on Antarctica and would have noticed the ice wall. I'm suggesting it is sufficiently far away from known habitation that we may not have noticed. Oddly, several ancient cosmologies reference this mountain range -- are you suggesting they had no knowledge of the mountain range? That they were guessing and happened to guess correctly? Do you have a reason to disregard their testimony other than it does not conform to your RE view? Doesn't that seem like it was not "skipped" in world history if it was referenced world wide in ancient times? Are you aware of the bulk of advanced ancient civilizations that held this view? That it held sway until the globularist conspiracy became manifest in the 1400's? It only "skipped" world history if you aren't reading history.
How many people are wandering around the depths of Antarctica (again four times the size of Australia in winter) to see the ice wall? Are you aware of large bands of travelers setting out to head rim-ward in a search for the ice wall? Please reference them. Are you aware of the many Antarctic explorers who met unfortunate and mysterious deaths?
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ive read it. its pretty made up. tbh you people have NO proof. and you still never told me why u CANT SEE this mountain range that "happens" to be covered in snow, but YOU lot would know that, because, evidently, youve seen it...oh wait...no you havnt.
The atmosphere is not perfectly transparent.
Only took you 6 words? Come on tom you're better than that I bet you could do it in 4 and you still wouldn't be able to know where to start
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Wasn't he talking about the ice wall?
nooo antarctica is not a fucking ice wall thers no such thing as an ice wall,jesus
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A minimum of study would show you the icewall is located in the depths of Antartica...
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Nobody knows how much but it's not an immediate edge.
I do but I'm not telling.
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Wasn't he talking about the ice wall?
nooo antarctica is not a fucking ice wall thers no such thing as an ice wall,jesus
Yes, if you paid attention you'd realize that most of us don't technically regard it as a "wall" so much as a mountain range that rings the earth.
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so uh, if the earth is really flat why are our latitude and longitude lines curved?
why is the earth special and flat and all of the moons and other planets round?
and how do explain gravity and wind? and the fucking rotation of the earth, we get day and night for different periods of time depending on the seasons and our position around the sun.
and if anybody says it's all part of the conspiracy i will starting calling people obsence names.
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and if anybody says it's all part of the conspiracy i will starting calling people obsence names.
It's all part of the conspiracy.
Actually, lots of what you have asked has been covered in the FAQ. If you have a problem with the explanations given in the FAQ perhaps you might care to elaborate why you think it wouldn't work.
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ok, i read the FAQ and i believe it to be a bunch of bullshit. such ideals are so old-fashioned and easily misproven with correct science and common sense that it's laughable.
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ok, i read the FAQ and i believe it to be a bunch of bullshit. such ideals are so old-fashioned and easily misproven with correct science and common sense that it's laughable.
Take it from an REer: Try to convince FEers that they're wrong using "correct science" and "common sense" for a while and you won't be laughing.
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ok, i read the FAQ and i believe it to be a bunch of bullshit. such ideas are so old-fashioned and easily misproven with correct science and common sense that it's laughable.
Give it a shot then, see how good you are at "correct science" and "common sense".
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so uh, if the earth is really flat why are our latitude and longitude lines curved?
In the FE model the longitude lines are straight and the latitude lines are curved.
why is the earth special and flat and all of the moons and other planets round?
The earth is not one of those celestial bodies. The earth is a plane which bisects the universe. The earth is the only know material world and the only environment known to support life.
and how do explain gravity and wind? and the fucking rotation of the earth, we get day and night for different periods of time depending on the seasons and our position around the sun.
Read the FAQ.
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Tom bishop, i would'nt trust you with setting the timer on a microwave. you've made the whole FAQ up, COME ON MAN YOU HAVE NO PROOF
come on, show me a map of where these mountains are. as ive said before, but again, none of you here come even close to puttin up a stable argument, just dodge questions and picking out stupid things that you make up.
accept it, your wrong, you have
NO
proof, you want to believe it so bad you make shit up. how you know they are covered in snow? i take it you've been to the military guard, since its so big and all?? oh wait....you HAVE NOT...and neither has ANYONE because there are NO mountains surrounding the earth, which ISNT flat.
it wouldnt be THAT hard to NOTICE a MASSIVE barrier CIRCLING the earth of military protection.
all you believers are absolute fools. get a real interest.
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Incoherent babbling is cruise control for cool.
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the most flawed map ive ever seen:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Flat_earth.jpg
is that what you think the earth is like Tom Bishop? you do know, people have circled the earth, im pretty damn sure of it actually
and the oceans are not that big, you can FLY from one continent to the other without such a massive ocean, you just base ur made up facts on your own bias.
people have sailed in practically every part of the ocean on earth, people have circled in in ships, planes and KNOW where things are, if the ocean, as illustrated in that map, really DID go on for so long, we Wouldn't have a FISHING problem. also, people would GO there, an notice military guard, and the mountains would have been mapped long ago.
you theories are a joke. your a moron. you cant argue and are totally ignorant of TRUE scientific and historical facts., and evidently cant afford a proper forum.
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people have sailed in practically every part of the ocean on earth, people have circled in in ships, planes and KNOW where things are, if the ocean, as illustrated in that map, really DID go on for so long, we Wouldn't have a FISHING problem. also, people would GO there, an notice military guard, and the mountains would have been mapped long ago.
Oh really? Who circumnavigated the earth entirely in the Southern Hemisphere then?
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Tom Bishop, you have to be the most ignorant douchebags ive ever encountered. Please stop referencing the FAQ, which is a total load of pigcrap, and that stupid book which was written by some jagoff as mentally handicapped as you are.
Every single day cargo ships cross the oceans East and West without A) Falling off the side of the Earth and B) Encountering an Ice Wall.
GPS devices are used with satellites.
It is impossible for all the space-traveling countries in the world to work together on such an elaborate conspiracy. Not to mention you cant seem to provide any reason for the conspiracy except "We assume it would be money."
Youre an ass.
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@Tom Bishop
uh, that would be the Chinese in the years 1421-23. The treasure fleets of Zheng He and Zhou Di. They circumnavigated the world and left many markers where they had been.
it's all explained in
http://www.amazon.com/1421-Year-China-Discovered-America/dp/0060537639
ta-da!
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The earth is the only know material world and the only environment known to support life.
While I agree with the latter as according to RE we are still on the only known planet to support life, the former raises an interesting question in my mind. Provided the moon can be shown to be round, would that force you to conclude that anything trying to land on the moon in a place other than its northern pole would simply slide or fall off? If we're going by the UA model, then the only reason we don't slide off the earth is because, according to FE, the earth is flat. In that theory, objects should fall off any non-flat body accelerating at 1g alongside the earth, am I wrong? I only ask because it seems to paint an even funnier, more ludicrous picture of the FE solar system.
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people have sailed in practically every part of the ocean on earth, people have circled in in ships, planes and KNOW where things are, if the ocean, as illustrated in that map, really DID go on for so long, we Wouldn't have a FISHING problem. also, people would GO there, an notice military guard, and the mountains would have been mapped long ago.
Oh really? Who circumnavigated the earth entirely in the Southern Hemisphere then?
So having pointed out all Vendee Globe competitors circumnavigate the southern hemisphere now someone has to do it entirely in the southern hemisphere.
Like it makes a difference.
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Oh really? Who circumnavigated the earth entirely in the Southern Hemisphere then?
James Cook.
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Oh really? Who circumnavigated the earth entirely in the Southern Hemisphere then?
James Cook.
Murdered.
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by the flat earth conpisracy!
trying to convince us that the earth is flat!
they murdered james cook!
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Every single day cargo ships cross the oceans East and West without A) Falling off the side of the Earth and B) Encountering an Ice Wall.
Plenty of people have encountered the Ice Wall.
The Ice Wall was discovered by Sir James Clark Ross, a polar explorer who was among the first to venture to Antarctica in an attempt to determine the position of the South Magnetic Pole. Upon confronting the massive vertical front of of ice he famously remarked
"It was ... an obstruction of such character as to leave no doubt in my mind as to our future proceedings, for we might as well sail through the cliffs of Dover as to penetrate such a mass.
It would be impossible to conceive a more solid-looking mass of ice; not the smallest appearance of any rent or fissure could we discover throughout its whole extent, and the intensely bright sky beyond it but too plainly indicated the great distance to which it reached southward."
James Cook.
James Cook was murdered right after his Antarctic voyage.
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James Cook.
James Cook was murdered right after his Antarctic voyage.
In Hawaii by Hawaiians after exploring Alaska looking for the north-west passage.
14 Feb 1779 The theft of a ship's cutter leads Captain Cook to put ashore to demand the return of the boat. the shore party is suddenly attacked by armed warriors and Cook is clubbed & repeatedly stabbed to death.
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James Cook was murdered right after his Antarctic voyage.
Wrong. James Cook died during his third voyage in Hawaii after he attempted to find the Northwest Passage. He circumnavigated the world in the southern seas twice, once in his first voyage, and again in his second. He returned to Britain after both voyages. The journals and maps from his expedition were published and still exist today.
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LOL
even if it was discovered, you STILL
Tom Bishop, this is for you HOW COME NO ONE has EVER SEEN A MASSIVE CIRCLe OF MILITARY GUARD AROUND THE EARTH.
im sure many governments would get pissed, and people would know, there is
NO PROOF
get it in to your thick head Tom, you cant prove it, and until you can, your a liar, got that?
go get a real education...or head..or life/job (and website)
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Everybody that goes South (rimward) sees the ice.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but how does circumnavigation of the Southern Hemiplane in itself disprove Flat Earth Theory? I think Tom meant "who has circumnavigated the world, north-to-south, and back to north again (crossing both poles)". Because nobody has.
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James Cook was murdered right after his Antarctic voyage.
Wrong. James Cook died during his third voyage in Hawaii after he attempted to find the Northwest Passage. He circumnavigated the world in the southern seas twice, once in his first voyage, and again in his second. He returned to Britain after both voyages. The journals and maps from his expedition were published and still exist today.
James Cook found the ice wall and was killed on his third and final voyage. When Capt. Clerke took over after Cook's murder, he too was killed to keep the discovery quiet. Also Bligh appears to have been intimidated into silence, as well.
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@Tom Bishop
uh, that would be the Chinese in the years 1421-23. The treasure fleets of Zheng He and Zhou Di. They circumnavigated the world and left many markers where they had been.
And your belief is that they not only circumnavigated, but reliably mapped the distances as well? You have a lot of faith in those Chinese Flat Earthers. You see China held a flat earth cosmology until late in the 1700th century. After the BGMG found influence through trade.
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James Cook.
James Cook was murdered right after his Antarctic voyage.
In Hawaii by Hawaiians after exploring Alaska looking for the north-west passage.
14 Feb 1779 The theft of a ship's cutter leads Captain Cook to put ashore to demand the return of the boat. the shore party is suddenly attacked by armed warriors and Cook is clubbed & repeatedly stabbed to death.
There are several reports that while Cook led a small party on the beach, the rest of the party headed back to the boats to return to the ship, leaving Cook and a few others to die on the beach.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but how does circumnavigation of the Southern Hemiplane in itself disprove Flat Earth Theory? I think Tom meant "who has circumnavigated the world, north-to-south, and back to north again (crossing both poles)". Because nobody has.
If the world was flat and arranged like FE theory predicts, Cook's expeditions would have discovered it. On his second expedition, Cook was equipped with a chronometer to determine longitude. In the southern 'hemiplane' the lines of longitude would be much farther apart than predicted by RE theory. Plotting his course on a map, it would have been obvious to Cook that lines of longitude were farther apart than predicted using his other RE charts and tables.
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James Cook was murdered right after his Antarctic voyage.
Wrong. James Cook died during his third voyage in Hawaii after he attempted to find the Northwest Passage. He circumnavigated the world in the southern seas twice, once in his first voyage, and again in his second. He returned to Britain after both voyages. The journals and maps from his expedition were published and still exist today.
James Cook found the ice wall on his third and final voyage. When Capt. Clerke took over after Cook's murder, he too was killed to keep the discovery quiet. Also Bligh appears to have been intimidated into silence, as well.
What is your source for this information? All sources I found show that he never approached Antarctica and that the purpose of his third expedition was to search for the Northwest Passage around the Bering Strait.
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If the world was flat and arranged like FE theory predicts, Cook's expeditions would have discovered it.
Where's the data from Cook's voyages showing that the distances he encountered reflect the hypothesis of a Round Earth?
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The ships logs were all exchanged after the murder of Clerke and Cook. The man spent his entire life studying the southern-most extremes, no one could think he abandoned that to find the Northwest Passage. In fact, the voyage was not designated for that purpose until after the return of the expedition.
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The ships logs were all exchanged after the murder of Clerke and Cook. The man spent his entire life studying the southern-most extremes, no one could think he abandoned that to find the Northwest Passage. In fact, the voyage was not designated for that purpose until after the return of the expedition.
And your source is?
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tom bishop, where is any of your proof? oh, woops, no existent.
people would realize a military guard of something so big, its obvious, and its not even do-able.
accept it Tom, no one has ever discovered it, proved it, documented it because it doesnt exist. use your head, you've made something out of nothing. stop. think. your being ridicules.
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tom bishop, where is any of your proof? oh, woops, no existent.
I'm the one asking you guys for proof.
Where's the data from Cook's voyages showing that the distances he encountered reflect the hypothesis of a Round Earth?
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If the world was flat and arranged like FE theory predicts, Cook's expeditions would have discovered it.
Where's the data from Cook's voyages showing that the distances he encountered reflect the hypothesis of a Round Earth?
Actually, I think I'll head over to my library. There appears to be some good books about his voyages. I'll see what more I can find.
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The ships logs were all exchanged after the murder of Clerke and Cook. The man spent his entire life studying the southern-most extremes, no one could think he abandoned that to find the Northwest Passage. In fact, the voyage was not designated for that purpose until after the return of the expedition.
And your source is?
That the primary reason he gave for the voyage was to return Omai to Tahiti. Contemporary accounts verify this. Here he was being prudent. What better way to gain funding than returning a gentile savage to his home? It also masked his true intentions from the BGMG who had shown an unhealthy interest in his second voyage. Cook planned to travel to the Antarctic, and aware of the danger made sure he brought along no scientists, only adventurers. His precautions were too few as he was eventually left on the beach in Hawaii. He also brought livestock and excess plants and seeds to provide the expedition a chance of penetrating the barrier of cold and ice that surrounds the ice wall.
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The ships logs were all exchanged after the murder of Clerke and Cook. The man spent his entire life studying the southern-most extremes, no one could think he abandoned that to find the Northwest Passage. In fact, the voyage was not designated for that purpose until after the return of the expedition.
And your source is?
That the primary reason he gave for the voyage was to return Omai to Tahiti. Contemporary accounts verify this. Here he was being prudent. What better way to gain funding than returning a gentile savage to his home? It also masked his true intentions from the BGMG who had shown an unhealthy interest in his second voyage. Cook planned to travel to the Antarctic, and aware of the danger made sure he brought along no scientists, only adventurers. His precautions were too few as he was eventually left on the beach in Hawaii. He also brought livestock and excess plants and seeds to provide the expedition a chance of penetrating the barrier of cold and ice that surrounds the ice wall.
So no source? Seems like pure speculation to me.
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Any research will verify what I just said. Contemporary sources cite the goal of the voyage to be returning Omai to Tahiti. He did not take scientists on the third voyage. He took several head of livestock and lots of plants and seeds.
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Contemporary sources cite the goal of the voyage to be returning Omai to Tahiti.
I agree with this, but you have no evidence to suggest that Cook actually went to Antarctica; it seems like speculation.
I'll do some research on Cook's voyages at my library later when I have some time; I'll see what I can find.
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You don't think it's odd that he went to Tahiti by way of New Zealand, and then decided "Maybe I'll go up north for awhile," as opposed to finishing what he had started in the south of the equator? That all references of the trip's goal of finding the Northern Passage are dated after the ship had returned? That both Cook and Clerke failed to return? That they didn't take any scientists with them on this trip? That instead they took livestock able to be used as beasts of burden in a cross-country excursion which officially never took place?
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tom, your just saying "prove cook...etc" that has nothing to do with it. we CAN prove the world is round, ie, people HAVE been around it and people KNOW there isnt an ice wall of mountains and THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT GUARD, we WOULD SEE IT. OBVIOUSLY.
get an education and learn before u start making stupid forums and stupid nonsensical theories. you know there is a lot of science behind the universe, to do with ions, and matter anti matter, that proves your theory wrong without even GOING in to space. okay, people know what happened during the big bang, and you can even speculate in great detail how the earth was millions of ears ago, and it all ties in. you flat earth believers are all rejects.
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you know there is a lot of science behind the universe, to do with ions, and matter anti matter, that proves your theory wrong without even GOING in to space.
This sounds wonderful.
Please, talk about the ions and antimatter and how they prove the earth is round.
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tom, your just saying "prove cook...etc" that has nothing to do with it. we CAN prove the world is round, ie, people HAVE been around it
Circumnavigation is possible on a Flat Earth. Read the FAQ.
People do see a mass of ice and mountains when they travel southward.
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and people dont take pictures, map it,
oh, and i thought the mountains WHERE UNDER MILITARY GUARD. but of course, that is a lie and you know it, so it doesnt matter.
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and people dont take pictures, map it,
oh, and i thought the mountains WHERE UNDER MILITARY GUARD. but of course, that is a lie and you know it, so it doesnt matter.
For a picture of the Ice Wall do a Google image search for "Antarctica."
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BUT I THOUGHT THE GOVERNMENT PROTECTED THE ICEWALL SO THAT THE REST OF US WOULD NEVER KNOW IT EXISTED AND THAT WAY WE WOULD NEVER KNOW THE WORLD IS FLAT!! Would you please pick a stance and stick with it. Shheeeessh.
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Nope. The Ice Wall is Antarctica. Plenty of people have been there.
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Here's the FAQ
Q: "Why has no-one taken a photo of the Earth that proves it is flat?"
A: The government prevents people from getting close enough to the Ice Wall to take a picture.
And if you give me a while Ill pull every quote from an FE'er saying something is guarding the ICEWALL including yourself that prevent's you from getting there and/or taking pics of it.
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Here's the FAQ
Q: "Why has no-one taken a photo of the Earth that proves it is flat?"
A: The government prevents people from getting close enough to the Ice Wall to take a picture.
And if you give me a while Ill pull every quote from an FE'er saying something is guarding the ICEWALL including yourself that prevent's you from getting there and/or taking pics of it.
Obviously not everybody feels that the ice wall is guarded. The FAQ is only a starting point; if it contained all the answers there would be no purpose to the forums. But Wardogg, I know you're familiar with the fact that different FEers have different theories on several key aspects, so where do you think you got by posting the quote from the FAQ? Obviously Tom doesn't agree with that part (and for the record, neither do I).
As long as I've been here Tom has always stated that the ice wall is the same entity as Antarctica. He's also posted photos of the ice wall that he pulled off the internet. Clearly it's not his opinion that it's guarded. ::)
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Ok....let me see if I got this straight.
Some FE'ers believe that in order for the government to maintain the secrecy of the flat earth someone or something has to be guarding the icewall. Other FE'ers believe that doesnt have to happen. So if nothing is guarding it then what stops these vistors to the icewall from walking all the way to the end of the earth? And if the ice wall is not a part of the conspiracy then why hasnt the mass of the population figured out the world is flat. I know the FAQ is misleading there are so many holes there it is ridiculous. My advice. Pull them down. Or at least post a disclaimer. Otherwise you need to stop sending people there to read them for answers. If the answers provided are not true.
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Ok....let me see if I got this straight.
Some FE'ers believe that in order for the government to maintain the secrecy of the flat earth someone or something has to be guarding the icewall.
Correct. I believe it's actually the minority opinion. Other FE'ers believe that doesnt have to happen.
Correct. So if nothing is guarding it then what stops these vistors to the icewall from walking all the way to the end of the earth?
We're not sure there is one. If there is, it's presumed that nobody has made it that far and survived. And if the ice wall is not a part of the conspiracy then why hasnt the mass of the population figured out the world is flat.
How would they? ??? I know the FAQ is misleading there are so many holes there it is ridiculous. My advice. Pull them down. Or at least post a disclaimer. Otherwise you need to stop sending people there to read them for answers. If the answers provided are not true.
As I stated, the FAQ is a starting point. Before people start asking questions that are very easily answered they should look there. I disagree that the FAQ is misleading, although obviously there's a joke or two thrown in there; in all fairness that seems fairly standard for a lot of FAQs I've seen. I only direct people to the FAQ when they've asked something that is clearly explained there.
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How many people are just wandering around the depths of Antarctica? RE'ers make it sound like there is a permanent population of 2.6 billion people on the continent (several times bigger than Australia) with nothing better to do than be constantly walking around in search of a huge mountain range. In reality, tourists visit the edges and most of the continent is reserved for military and scientific personnel.
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Right, guarding the ice wall and preventing people from taking pictures of it does not mean ships and tanks in front of the antarctic coast.
It means that when someone is moving hundreds of miles, alone, across the antarctic tundra, you know all about it. Trust me, evidence is not getting out.
If you are an american, you can bet there is a lot of red tape to get through before you are allowed to set off on any sort of expedition around the ice wall area.
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Most of the FE'ers said it was the ice wall that kept the oceans in...except for the ones that say it may be DE....I didnt know that the ice wall didn't include Antarctica.
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Antarctica is the "continent" on which the mountains lie.
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Antarctica is the "continent" on which the mountains lie.
Mountains always tell the truth
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Words you never want to hear from your pilot.
How'd that mountain goat get up in these clouds?
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Antarctica is the "continent" on which the mountains lie.
Mountains always tell the truth
Ha! Nice one..
Good catch...
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Words you never want to hear from your pilot.
How'd that mountain goat get up in these clouds?
There was a DC-10 that crashed into Erebus some 20 or 30 years ago. Recovery efforts were particularly gruesome. Civilian overflights were suspended (No, I don't think it was conspiracy related).
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Yeah a Coast Guard Herk almost wacked it a couple of years ago.
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I think the Coast Guard has a helo you can still visit up there. And the wreckage of the DC-10 is supposedly visible as well.
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I like it when St3w has very good ideas and you bastards don't respond to the parts of his post that might not be convenient to answer due to protecting a broken theory.
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^exactly. they cant argue, they just snap back with petty come backs that mean nothing. its like arguing with toddlers.
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Oh really? Which good ideas are those? ???
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read the fkin posts u fanny bandit. you can see the curvature of the earth, thats good enough, there is no military guard of an ice mountain wall round earth, and the earth is
ROUND.
flat earthers = earth chums.
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you can see the curvature of the earth
I never have.
there is no military guard of an ice mountain wall round earth
I agree, there probably is no, or little formal guarding of the ice wall. It's very remoteness protects it.
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read the fkin posts u fanny bandit. you can see the curvature of the earth, thats good enough, there is no military guard of an ice mountain wall round earth, and the earth is
ROUND.
flat earthers = earth chums.
I thought you said good ideas...
You can't see the curvature of the Earth. You can't see if from the ground. You can't see if from a mountain. You can't see if from a plane.
You can't see it, and it isn't curved.
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haha, you are GReATLY MISTAKEN there. as i HAVE said before, but no one listened because you lot are only interested in fake BS theories that back ur own BS theories.
in russia TOURISTS can pay MONEY to be taken IN TO ORBIT. not NASA officials, not a RIDE AT The FAIR, NOT AN AVERAGE PLANE TRIP, but taken so high, the curvature of the earth becomes blatantly obvious. ive seen it a lot, and its not made up by the discovery and NATGEO channels, you can organize it through a travel agent.
i must be part of the conspiracy then ey?
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haha, you are GReATLY MISTAKEN there. as i HAVE said before, but no one listened because you lot are only interested in fake BS theories that back ur own BS theories.
in russia TOURISTS can pay MONEY to be taken IN TO ORBIT. not NASA officials, not a RIDE AT The FAIR, NOT AN AVERAGE PLANE TRIP, but taken so high, the curvature of the earth becomes blatantly obvious. ive seen it a lot, and its not made up by the discovery and NATGEO channels, you can organize it through a travel agent.
i must be part of the conspiracy then ey?
rEAlY? nAMe ONe.
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name one what?
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in russia TOURISTS can pay MONEY to be taken IN TO ORBIT
rEAlY? nAMe ONe.
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george mc Fuckbottoms.
i dont know any russian tourists but ive seen it on several channels, and this is normal english couple for their honey-moon type thing.
NONE OF YOU have ANY PROOF and u ALL DODGE THE FACT you have NO PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE, NO PROOF TO THE MILITARY GUARD
-which is in ur gay FAQ, even if it was remote im sure someone would go, in fact i know they would have been discovered and documented, its ridicules to suggest other wise, also the science behind this is bullshit.
shite.
i bet id find these mountains before i find a single brain cell between any of you.
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george mc Fuckbottoms.
ahahahahahahahahahaha
NONE OF YOU have ANY PROOF and u ALL DODGE THE FACT you have NO PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE, NO PROOF TO THE MILITARY GUARD
Would you believe a photo if you saw it or would you just claim it was doctored?
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but, you dont have a photograph do you? and if you do, it probably will be of something else, wouldnt surprise me - and the FAQ as u all BANG ON ABOUT says there is MILITARY GUARD OF IT.
and the curvature of the earth can be observed.
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george mc Fuckbottoms.
i dont know any russian tourists
As you state, if they have been to space, I'm pretty sure it would have been discovered and documented. So unless you can back this up...
even if it was remote im sure someone would go, in fact i know they would have been discovered and documented, its ridicules to suggest other wise, also the science behind this is bullshit.
its bullshit.
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no...its on tv, as a trip in russia IT EXISTS. and you people cant back ur gay little theory up either...so
"its bullshit"
they have no reason even to cover up a flat earth, its absurd, people would have definitely documented these mountains and it would be widely known, never mind ur bullshit "oh its so far away no one would find it" shite.
you all can never make jobs out of this, cos ur not real scientists, your liars and fictionists.
and, im sure you will all say it was made by NASA - but even here, pictured taken on a concord trip - and you can read elsewhere about peoples views out the windows.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.travelscholar.com/concorde/images/largephotos/20030501_ba002concorde_31.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.travelscholar.com/concorde/page03.html&h=480&w=640&sz=43&hl=it&start=2&um=1&tbnid=UpRVJJ-J6LFxiM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dearth%2Bcurve%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dit%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN
im sure the nice people at BA are also in on it ey >.> what ELSE could be MORE EFFECTIVE TO make PROFIT than fake the earth shape to their customers.... >.>
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no...its on tv, as a trip in russia IT EXISTS. and you people cant back ur gay little theory up either...so
Forget about round earth. Give me one good reason why I should believe russian tourists are in space?
If you make that up, how I can I debate with you about anything?
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i never made it up. and its not russian tourists, its for anyone who wants to go. also...people, pilots, all seen it, and concord. but again "if i havnt done it i must be lying"
well. none of you will ever get a real job so...meh. u can all have ur shite free forum and your shite beliefs.
*cough Tom Bishop's wife's chest is too flat *cough
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i never made it up. and its not russian tourists, its for anyone who wants to go. also...people, pilots, all seen it, and concord. but again "if i havnt done it i must be lying"
well. none of you will ever get a real job so...meh. u can all have ur shite free forum and your shite beliefs.
*cough Tom Bishop's wife's chest is too flat *cough
Dude. Seriously, there are no tourists in space. Look it up.
Virgin Galactic hopes to be the first, and they will not come anywhere near "orbit" (which doesn't exist anyway)
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fucktard, i never said in to space i said in to orbit, not even really, but ENOUGH TO SEE THE CURVATURE - AND IT WAS ON NATGEO.
we have lots of proof, you all just REFUSe to believe it, people i know with PHDs said your theory was the most bazar thing they'd ever seen. and anyone who believes the earth is flat and refuses to take on real science wont get very far, as ive seen with many science careers in people, even to the extent where my parents work in the research industry, more educated than some foreign reject theorists.
oh yeah and i take it these are "fake"?
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.travelscholar.com/concorde/images/largephotos/20030501_ba002concorde_31.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.travelscholar.com/concorde/page03.html&h=480&w=640&sz=43&hl=it&start=2&um=1&tbnid=UpRVJJ-J6LFxiM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dearth%2Bcurve%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dit%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN
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oh yeah and i take it these are "fake"?
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.travelscholar.com/concorde/images/largephotos/20030501_ba002concorde_31.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.travelscholar.com/concorde/page03.html&h=480&w=640&sz=43&hl=it&start=2&um=1&tbnid=UpRVJJ-J6LFxiM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dearth%2Bcurve%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dit%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN
Wow, I had heard that you could clearly discern the curvature of the earth from the Concorde, but those pictures have now put that myth to rest.
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its quite curved in those photos, even look at it closely in an image editor...if the likes of you can even afford photoshop.
or r the men in white suites coming to take you away? awww
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its quite curved in those photos, even look at it closely in an image editor...if the likes of you can even afford photoshop.
or r the men in white suites coming to take you away? awww
Looks like the Concorde is looking down at the circular spotlight of the sun to me.
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its quite curved in those photos, even look at it closely in an image editor...if the likes of you can even afford photoshop.
or r the men in white suites coming to take you away? awww
I held a straight edge to some of those images to confirm it. There's no visible curvature in those photos. The horizon line is far too indistinct to make anything like that out. You see one because you have been brainwashed by the conspiracy into thinking you should see curvature from a plane. ::) It's amazing the kinds of lies the mind can conjure up for us when we have a preconceived notion of what should be.
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its quite curved in those photos, even look at it closely in an image editor...if the likes of you can even afford photoshop.
or r the men in white suites coming to take you away? awww
I held a straight edge to some of those images to confirm it. There's no visible curvature in those photos. The horizon line is far too indistinct to make anything like that out. You see one because you have been brainwashed by the conspiracy into thinking you should see curvature from a plane. ::) It's amazing the kinds of lies the mind can conjure up for us when we have a preconceived notion of what should be.
Hahaha. Ok st3w, we proved the Earth is flat.
Now you prove tourists went to orbit. Or at least provide some reasonable shred of a link to salvage what little is remaining of your dignity.
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or r the men in white suites coming to take you away? awww
Keep being a dick in FED&D and I will ban you. Keep posts like this in Angry Ranting please.
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Already done.
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Oh, I was sort of hoping he'd try and find proof for those Russian tourists. No worries though, well banned!