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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Debate => Topic started by: Chris Spaghetti on November 24, 2007, 04:18:12 AM
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The M/S Explorer, Antarctic tourism vessel was struck down in the Antarctic seas. http://www.falklandnews.com/public/story.cfm?get=4760&source=3 could this be evidence of the conspiracy at work?
(http://www.marinelog.com/IMAGESMMVII/explosink.jpg)
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PROOF!!!!
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i don't see any proof
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i don't see any proof
you gotta look with your other eyes. Conspiracy eyes.
And it's a little suspicious that they didn't find any reason for the passengers to be evactuated
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you gotta look with your other eyes. Conspiracy eyes.
And it's a little suspicious that they didn't find any reason for the passengers to be evactuated
hahah conspiracy eyes !! , give me 5 mins ill right back after my conspiracy eyes have given it a look over.
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Good boy
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PROOF!!!!
I CONCUR! T3H 3ARTH 1S FLATXXORS!!!111!!
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well, let's see: this ship has been making the same trip to and from antarctica for how long? 10 YEARS?
and in all that time, this is the FIRST real problem it's had?
let me put it this way: if i was part of the conspiracy, i would DOS this website, or arrange an "accident" for Tom Bishop!
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A small torpedo is all it would take.
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A small torpedo is all it would take.
I think we'd notice a hole blown in the side of the ship.
there is no conspiracy here. it's called "shit happens".
that or suicide bombers are leaving england and heading for antarctica
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I think we'd notice a hole blown in the side of the ship.
"Wow, look at that hole! You must have hit an iceberg."
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Surely no one considers that as actual evidence for a conspiracy? I mean, with so many other plausible explanations and such...
Wait. Never mind.
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I think we'd notice a hole blown in the side of the ship.
"Wow, look at that hole! You must have hit an iceberg."
Torpedo damage would show scorch damage and explosive. an iceburg would tear a hole.
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a kinetic, non-warheaded torpedo might recreate an iceberg strike?
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a kinetic, non-warheaded torpedo might recreate an iceberg strike?
That would create a hole rather than a tear.
an example would be this. a bullet leaves a clean hole in the skin (if you disregard the exit wound) whereas taking serrated knife to the skin leaves it torn and uneven. am i making any sense with this?
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a kinetic, non-warheaded torpedo might recreate an iceberg strike?
That would create a hole rather than a tear.
an example would be this. a bullet leaves a clean hole in the skin (if you disregard the exit wound) whereas taking serrated knife to the skin leaves it torn and uneven. am i making any sense with this?
I'm sure its really hard for some of the brightest engineers in the world to create a device that would create an iceberg like tear.
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Torpedo damage would show scorch damage and explosive. an iceburg would tear a hole.
a kinetic, non-warheaded torpedo might recreate an iceberg strike?
That would create a hole rather than a tear.
LOL
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Apparently the hole in the Explorer was 5cm, don't know how true that is, though
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so "the conspiracy" supposedly has soldiers stationed around the edge or "ice wall" keeping people away. so have you ever heard stories like these:
"antarctic expedition vanishes without a trace! families are stunned by government's refusal to send rescue mission!"
"antarctic expedition forced to return by mysterious sniper shooting at them from the top of a glacier!"
but we NEVER hear anything like that, do we? instead we hear TV interviews with people living peacefully at the south pole for months at a time.
oh, right; FErs think "the conspiracy" has total control of the media too!
i've said this before, but i'll say it again: just HOW would this conspiracy TAKE control without anyone NOTICING in the FIRST PLACE?!?!
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a kinetic, non-warheaded torpedo might recreate an iceberg strike?
That would create a hole rather than a tear.
an example would be this. a bullet leaves a clean hole in the skin (if you disregard the exit wound) whereas taking serrated knife to the skin leaves it torn and uneven. am i making any sense with this?
I'm sure its really hard for some of the brightest engineers in the world to create a device that would create an iceberg like tear.
Yes actually since for a torpedo to immitate an iceburg it would have to be just as large and unmovable
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The world's brightest engineers designed the ultimate iceberg effect like weapon: Giant bolder flinging machiiiine! (Boulder is made of ice; batteries not included)
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Point taken
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Sweet, finally a thread debating about weapons.
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so "the conspiracy" supposedly has soldiers stationed around the edge or "ice wall" keeping people away. so have you ever heard stories like these:
"antarctic expedition vanishes without a trace! families are stunned by government's refusal to send rescue mission!"
Actually, since the turn of the 20th century, it wasn't uncommon for Antarctic explorers to turn up dead or missing.
Robert F. Scott, for example, was murdered while exploring Antarctica.
Evidence suggests that the heroic Scott of the Antarctic reached the Ice Wall and was subsequently murdered before returning to civilization.
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man, you guys are so full of shit with this conspiracy nonsense. get a goddamn life and quit all of this blabbering on about conspiracies and shit. since the earth has been proven to not be flat, and since never have all of the governments of the world agree with eachother on anything, drag your asses out of the goddamn dark ages and welcome yourselves to the goddamn twenty-first century. fuck you all and do something mother fuckin productive with your goddamn time.
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Wow! Although I applaud your enthusiasm, that was still a rather blatant display of poor form in debate. A little fun-poking or name calling is all in fun to be sure, but there's no need to go ballistic over a discussion.
Not to mention, that was an awful lot of energy wasted in trying to prove your point. Makes it easier to brush your views aside if you keep up that sort of image of yourself.
I am what everyone would consider a "Round Earther" myself, but I can't think of any reason to go slamming people for their beliefs. I can argue my beliefs over theirs based on my own experiences and other data I have deemed as having proven results, but going so far beyond that is a bit much!
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so "the conspiracy" supposedly has soldiers stationed around the edge or "ice wall" keeping people away. so have you ever heard stories like these:
"antarctic expedition vanishes without a trace! families are stunned by government's refusal to send rescue mission!"
Actually, since the turn of the 20th century, it wasn't uncommon for Antarctic explorers to turn up dead or missing.
Robert F. Scott, for example, was murdered while exploring Antarctica.
Evidence suggests that the heroic Scott of the Antarctic reached the Ice Wall and was subsequently murdered before returning to civilization.
What evidence was that?
How many people exploring antartica weren't 'murdered'? ::)
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Yes. This is proof that anything named MS Explorer sucks at doing anything. It didn't even tip over properly...
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Yes. This is proof that anything named MS Explorer sucks at doing anything. It didn't even tip over properly...
It obviously stopped Responding :P
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exactly what evidence? or is that just another rumor you claim MUST be fact JUST because you think it "proves" your argument?
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Yes. This is proof that anything named MS Explorer sucks at doing anything. It didn't even tip over properly...
It obviously stopped Responding :P
Well.. there is the 'Fatal' Error.... ;D
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"Good lord Timothy I do believe we're about to hit a rather large piece of ice!"
"I say!"
*CRASH*
Oh I'm sorry I mean...
CONSPRIRACY!!!!!
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so "the conspiracy" supposedly has soldiers stationed around the edge or "ice wall" keeping people away. so have you ever heard stories like these:
"antarctic expedition vanishes without a trace! families are stunned by government's refusal to send rescue mission!"
Actually, since the turn of the 20th century, it wasn't uncommon for Antarctic explorers to turn up dead or missing.
Robert F. Scott, for example, was murdered while exploring Antarctica.
Evidence suggests that the heroic Scott of the Antarctic reached the Ice Wall and was subsequently murdered before returning to civilization.
THAT'S RIGHT, MURDERED HE WAS! BLUDGEONED TO DEATH IN (VERY) COLD BLOOD BY PANICKING ICE GUARDS, WHO LINED UP LIKE SPACE INVADERS TO SHOOT AT HIM ONE AT A TIME.
If you would just *think* for one moment. The clue may be in what you have said:
"Antarctic explorers", "turn of the 20th century", "dead or missing".
Some other explanation?? surely??
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""Antarctica" - 'When Admiral Byrd led a US military expedition force of more than 10,000 men to Antarctica in 1947 the mystery deepened. The force returned after just three months having suffered heavy losses on their mysterious mission. Even fifty years later, it is almost impossible to obtain any of the unclassified information concerning this inexplicable polar misadventure by the US military.'
'The Strange Part - Antarctica is governed by a treaty, signed by various powerful countries, that prevents any development or exploitation of its vast natural resources. Given that our governments do not generally have a good track record on defending the environment, this could be seen as a little curious.'
However, this theory (it's from a book I have) is more focused around how there was an old map depicting the land of Antarctica from 1513 along with the western coast of Africa and the eastern coast of South America, even though Antarctica wasn't officially discovered until 1818.
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"Antarctica" - 'When Admiral Byrd led a US military expedition force of more than 10,000 men to Antarctica in 1947 the mystery deepened. The force returned after just three months having suffered heavy losses on their mysterious mission. Even fifty years later, it is almost impossible to obtain any of the unclassified information concerning this inexplicable polar misadventure by the US military.'
'The Strange Part - Antarctica is governed by a treaty, signed by various powerful countries, that prevents any development or exploitation of its vast natural resources. Given that our governments do not generally have a good track record on defending the environment, this could be seen as a little curious.'
However, this theory (it's from a book I have) is more focused around how there was an old map depicting the land of Antarctica from 1513 along with the western coast of Africa and the eastern coast of South America, even though Antarctica wasn't officially discovered until 1818.
Just curious.. but how was the map depicting Antartica?
What's the book called?
What was Admiral Byrd's (or next in command) explaination for the losses?
How do you know the information is classified rather than nonexsistent?
What's strange about the 'strange part'?
Please and thank you. :P
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The book is called "Conspiracy Files" - David Southwell & Sean Twist - It's pretty cheesy overall but a fun read.
It covers a background to the conspiracy (it goes through people, places etc...), the strange disputed part of it, likely suspects, unusual suspects, convincing evidence, mysterious facts and a skeptic's view. It's not a novel or some scientific journal or anything, but only a concise collection of many, many conspiracy theories. It has intrigued me to look into more of them though, being that they only cover the topic briefly.
As for your questions, I'm just about to run out the door, not that I can really answer them.
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The book is called "Conspiracy Files" - David Southwell & Sean Twist - It's pretty cheesy overall but a fun read.
It covers a background to the conspiracy (it goes through people, places etc...), the strange disputed part of it, likely suspects, unusual suspects, convincing evidence, mysterious facts and a skeptic's view. It's not a novel or some scientific journal or anything, but only a concise collection of many, many conspiracy theories. It has intrigued me to look into more of them though, being that they only cover the topic briefly.
As for your questions, I'm just about to run out the door, not that I can really answer them.
Well thanks anyways. :)
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so "the conspiracy" supposedly has soldiers stationed around the edge or "ice wall" keeping people away. so have you ever heard stories like these:
"antarctic expedition vanishes without a trace! families are stunned by government's refusal to send rescue mission!"
Actually, since the turn of the 20th century, it wasn't uncommon for Antarctic explorers to turn up dead or missing.
Robert F. Scott, for example, was murdered while exploring Antarctica.
Evidence suggests that the heroic Scott of the Antarctic reached the Ice Wall and was subsequently murdered before returning to civilization.
What evidence was that?
How many people exploring antartica weren't 'murdered'? ::)
I think it was something about the pose of his dead body, as if he died stuggling. I think, but I forget.
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so "the conspiracy" supposedly has soldiers stationed around the edge or "ice wall" keeping people away. so have you ever heard stories like these:
"antarctic expedition vanishes without a trace! families are stunned by government's refusal to send rescue mission!"
Actually, since the turn of the 20th century, it wasn't uncommon for Antarctic explorers to turn up dead or missing.
Robert F. Scott, for example, was murdered while exploring Antarctica.
Evidence suggests that the heroic Scott of the Antarctic reached the Ice Wall and was subsequently murdered before returning to civilization.
What evidence was that?
How many people exploring antartica weren't 'murdered'? ::)
I think it was something about the pose of his dead body, as if he died stuggling. I think, but I forget.
If that was it... that's minimal. Evidence needed for murder is much more in-depth than that. Perhaps gunshot wounds. Heck, strangulation leaves more evidence. What you need here is an untraceable poison with the effects of loss of muscular control or something. :P
Remember kids: while exploring antarctic governmental property, never take an ice wall guards' candy.