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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 01:29:56 PM

Title: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 01:29:56 PM
If the Earth moves at 1g (I have no clue what 1g means) then how can we still see the other planets?  Do they all follow Earth around?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Username on October 25, 2007, 01:36:58 PM
The celestial bodies are also being accelerated by the UA in the common FE theory. 

I suggest reading the faq.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 01:38:28 PM
I did skim through it but being a RE'er, i don't have the time reading all the details of a myth... a irrational myth at that.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: TheEngineer on October 25, 2007, 01:39:43 PM
But you had time to make this thread?

Please read the FAQ.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 01:42:08 PM
Ok, I re-read that part and found it.  So I guess that the planets don't revolve then.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Mr. Ireland on October 25, 2007, 01:42:59 PM
STOP MAKING THREADS.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: TheEngineer on October 25, 2007, 01:43:05 PM
How did you reach that conclusion from reading about the acceleration of the FE?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 01:45:18 PM
Wouldn't the planet's crash if they rotated?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 01:48:03 PM
The reason why i am making so many threads is because I am trying to make my point.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: divito the truthist on October 25, 2007, 01:49:52 PM
Wouldn't the planet's crash if they rotated?

LOL.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Mr. Ireland on October 25, 2007, 01:50:02 PM
The reason why i am making so many threads is because I am trying to make my point.

That's you're lazy?  :-\
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 01:51:16 PM
how does that make me lazy?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Username on October 25, 2007, 01:52:18 PM
too lazy to use the search button
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Mr. Ireland on October 25, 2007, 01:52:48 PM
Not taking the time to read the FAQ.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 01:53:40 PM
No, I'm not lazy.... I'm smart since I know that EARTH IS ROUND!!!
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: divito the truthist on October 25, 2007, 01:54:51 PM
No, I'm not lazy.... I'm smart since I know that EARTH IS ROUND!!!

If you were smart, you'd realize the flaw in this statement.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Mr. Ireland on October 25, 2007, 01:55:20 PM
No, I'm not lazy.... I'm smart since I know that EARTH IS ROUND!!!

But that wouldn't make someone smart...
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 01:57:29 PM
Yes, there was a flaw. I noticed it and fixed it.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: TheEngineer on October 25, 2007, 01:59:11 PM
Wouldn't the planet's crash if they rotated?
Why would they?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: TheEngineer on October 25, 2007, 02:00:50 PM
The reason why i am making so many threads is because I am trying to make my point.
What's funny, is that the point you are making is probably not the one you are intending to make.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 02:03:20 PM
The planets wouldn't crash... I just said that because it would be impossible (since it would have happened already) and the rest of the stuff on here is impossible (unless it is proof the earth is round)
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: TheEngineer on October 25, 2007, 02:04:02 PM
How about explaining your position?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 02:06:48 PM
What do you mean?  I am a RE'er.  Nothing on here is logical.  Is that what you are asking?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: TheEngineer on October 25, 2007, 02:08:11 PM
I'm asking you to explain your assumption that accelerating, rotating bodies would have crashed into each other by now.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: divito the truthist on October 25, 2007, 02:10:19 PM
Yes, there was a flaw. I noticed it and fixed it.

Nope, it's still there. Perhaps you should use that intelligent brain to find it.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 02:11:03 PM
Never mind... I was just trying to make a point that nothing here makes sense.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 02:11:51 PM
What's the flaw?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: TheEngineer on October 25, 2007, 02:13:41 PM
Never mind... I was just trying to make a point that nothing here makes sense.
You were trying to make a point that the site does not make sense, by not making sense yourself?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 02:14:58 PM
Just ignore what I said.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: divito the truthist on October 25, 2007, 02:18:15 PM
What's the flaw?

Besides that terming the Earth round is inaccurate, you claim to know something you can't possibly know without invoking a fallacy. Even if you were to try and avoid that, the simple matter is that it can't be proven.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 02:19:54 PM
What can't be proven?  The planets crashing?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Riles on October 25, 2007, 02:20:30 PM
JNB228

The Flat Earth Theory is absurd , but thats only my OPINION
Few here subscribe to it yet many still act as a "Devils advocate"
The people who defend the idea are asking you to debate in a rational and scientific manner.Give them facts they cant counter, its only a debate.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 02:21:52 PM
I agree with you... There are more facts that prove the Earth is round.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 25, 2007, 02:24:34 PM
I agree with you... There are more facts that prove the Earth is round.

Such as?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 02:26:02 PM
This will take a while so I will work on the list.  I'll have it soon.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Riles on October 25, 2007, 02:30:53 PM
This will take a while so I will work on the list.  I'll have it soon.

Thats the spirit,
You may want to look up escape and orbital velocity to argue the Suns satellites .
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 25, 2007, 02:32:49 PM
This will take a while so I will work on the list.  I'll have it soon.

Don't bother. Whatever you think up has already been explained by Flat Earth Theory. The answers are here as follows:

Conspiracy
Perspective Effect
Circumnavigation is possible
The atmosphere is not perfectly transparent
The stars have a slight gravitational pull
A stellar multiple system exists above the hub of the earth
Snell's law of light bending downwards as it passes through a medium
The earth is an infinite plane

I'll leave the questions to these answers as an exercise to the reader.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 02:39:37 PM
These are the main things that prove my point.  There are many more.

There is no photo of the ice wall
There are pictures and videos of the Earth rotating
Angle of Polaris
The 'sinking ship'
Time zones
Lunar Eclipses (the shadow of the Earth)
If there was an ice wall, wouldn't NASA let people see it for a good amount of money.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 02:42:26 PM
Listen, I am a teenager and don't understand this vocab.  Can you try to explain this stuff and I will prove you wrong.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 25, 2007, 02:47:57 PM
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There is no photo of the ice wall

Actually, there are photos of the 150 foot Ice Wall at the coast of Antarctica.

See: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=15719.msg255037#msg255037

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There are pictures and videos of the Earth rotating

Conspiracy

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Angle of Polaris

Perspective effect based on one's latitude upon the surface of the earth. Overhead bodies tend to naturally descend as they recede from the observer. Talk to any Art teacher for a reference.

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The 'sinking ship'

This occurs as a result of the vanishing point being a finite distance away from the observer.

See: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=17379.msg299892#msg299892

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Time zones

Time Zones are an artificial concept.

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Lunar Eclipses (the shadow of the Earth)

The Lunar Eclipse is accurately explained and predicted in Chapter 11 of Earth Not a Globe (http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za29.htm)

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If there was an ice wall, wouldn't NASA let people see it for a good amount of money.

There is nothing preventing you from visiting the 150 foot Ice Wall at the coast of Antarctica. Many people have been there.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Riles on October 25, 2007, 03:00:35 PM
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There is no photo of the ice wall

Actually, there are photos of the 150 foot Ice Wall at the coast of Antarctica.

See: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=15719.msg255037#msg255037

These don't prove its its a continuous barrier, Ross discover an ice shlf not a wall

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There are pictures and videos of the Earth rotating

Conspiracy

Thats the answer you get when they don't have an answer

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Angle of Polaris

Perspective effect based on one's latitude upon the surface of the earth. Bodies tend to naturally descend as they recede from the observer.

Does not comply with observation

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The 'sinking ship'

This occurs as a result of the vanishing point being a finite distance away from the observer.

Does not comply with observation

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=17379.msg299892#msg299892

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Time zones

Time Zones are an artificial concept.

No they are a result of the Earth rotating ,the term Time Zone is a description of convenience.

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Lunar Eclipses (the shadow of the Earth)

The Lunar Eclipse is accurately explained and predicted in Chapter 11 of Earth Not a Globe (http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za29.htm)

No, incorrectly and inaccurately, still does not explain shape of eclipse.

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If there was an ice wall, wouldn't NASA let people see it for a good amount of money.

There is nothing preventing you from visiting the 150 foot Ice Wall at the coast of Antarctica

.There is nothing preventing you from visiting the 150 foot Ice Wall at the coast of Antarctica

Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 03:02:46 PM
you basically repeated what was already said

I can prove that wrong.  It will just take a while.  If you want, ask me to prove one part (at a time) wrong and I will.  I have reasons for all of the answers you gave me.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 03:19:53 PM
So I guess that everyone decided they would rather not hear my reasons which prove that earth is round.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: ChiefConspirator on October 25, 2007, 03:21:36 PM
Relax. Nobody actually believes the earth is flat.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 03:25:02 PM
then, why does this website exist?

and why does someone have a link to the flat mars society?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Riles on October 25, 2007, 03:36:39 PM
then, why does this website exist?

and why does someone have a link to the flat mars society?



Did you learn anything in the Rotation thread about science ?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 03:43:26 PM
I don't get what you are asking.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Riles on October 25, 2007, 04:05:10 PM
I don't get what you are asking.

Well you now know why Mercury spins slower than Jupiter...
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: JNB228 on October 25, 2007, 04:30:06 PM
I already knew that.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Riles on October 25, 2007, 04:42:27 PM
But your are incorrect...

"This shows that the fatter a planet is, the faster it rotates.  "

The speed of rotation is not dependent on size.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Username on October 26, 2007, 11:17:55 AM
Relax. Nobody actually believes the earth is flat.
I do.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: ChiefConspirator on October 26, 2007, 11:20:14 AM
Relax. Nobody actually believes the earth is flat.
I do.

I believe you're lying. How dare you.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Username on October 26, 2007, 11:30:04 AM
Relax. Nobody actually believes the earth is flat.
I do.

I believe you're lying. How dare you.
No, I'm not...
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: tomcooper84 on October 26, 2007, 11:43:01 AM
thats another problem with your theory, the earth would have to be in constant acceleration which it has been for billions of years so it would be going stupidly fast through space...wheres all this power and energy come from to move the earth the "cold and hot light" stars and everythign else in the universe "upwards at a constant rate of acceleration to great 1g's worth of gravity?

surely whatever power source would do this would have ran out in billions of years ago.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: divito the truthist on October 26, 2007, 11:46:17 AM
thats another problem with your theory, the earth would have to be in constant acceleration which it has been for billions of years so it would be going stupidly fast through space...wheres all this power and energy come from to move the earth the "cold and hot light" stars and everythign else in the universe "upwards at a constant rate of acceleration to great 1g's worth of gravity?

See: Special Relativity.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: TheEngineer on October 26, 2007, 12:00:58 PM
surely whatever power source would do this would have ran out in billions of years ago.
What about the RE's Dark Energy?  Why hasn't it run out by now?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: tomcooper84 on October 26, 2007, 12:33:51 PM
the round earth just sits there doesn't use up any energy, its being thrown around in space by the suns gravitationalpull, which keep sthe earth at a constanst speed,m where as your flat earth is accelerating into infinity
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: TheEngineer on October 26, 2007, 01:10:22 PM
No, it's accelerating to the speed of light, which it will never reach. 

Now, I asked originally about the RE's Dark Energy...
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: tomcooper84 on October 26, 2007, 01:14:26 PM
there isn't anything out there known by "dark energy" unless your watchign somethign liek star wars or star trek or whatever they make up in them..

the earth spins on its axis, because there is no force in space acting against it to stop it spinnign, its not using any energy to spin, nor is it loosing energy because it is spinning, it moves through space because there is no force acting against it to stop it moving, and it will keep moving at the same speed forever. unless it blows up, or hits another planet or big meterite etc.

doesn't need dark energy or energy when its not using energy at all.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: TheEngineer on October 26, 2007, 01:17:23 PM
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/cosmic_darknrg_020115-1.html (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/cosmic_darknrg_020115-1.html)


Now, how about that answer?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: tomcooper84 on October 26, 2007, 01:24:43 PM
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/cosmic_darknrg_020115-1.html (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/cosmic_darknrg_020115-1.html)


Now, how about that answer?

i cant because im not a scientist, and even scientist cant explain it, and its proberbly just some energy realeased in the big bang thats making planets and stars etc all accelrate, nothing magical about it mate, still wouldn't make a blind bit of difference on your flat earth or the real round earth
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: TheEngineer on October 26, 2007, 01:28:03 PM
So you get to have an energy source that is of infinite duration, yet you have a problem with the FE using one?
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: tomcooper84 on October 26, 2007, 01:38:03 PM
who said anything about inifinite? the big bang was very big, thats why it was called teh big bang, it started the universe from nothing, eventually it will run out of energy and some scientist believe it will start to contract again,

these elephants must be so old? and what do they eat/drink? and never known an elephant that could lift up a small hill let alone a mountain,? the earth? now that must be heavy, i hope they have back supports and leg braces, if i was those elephants id get another job
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Username on October 26, 2007, 01:42:07 PM
these elephants must be so old? and what do they eat/drink? and never known an elephant that could lift up a small hill let alone a mountain,? the earth? now that must be heavy, i hope they have back supports and leg braces, if i was those elephants id get another job
There are no elephants.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: TheEngineer on October 26, 2007, 01:42:57 PM
who said anything about inifinite? the big bang was very big, thats why it was called teh big bang, it started the universe from nothing, eventually it will run out of energy and some scientist believe it will start to contract again,
Yet some scientists don't believe it will contract.  They believe it will continue indefinitely.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: tomcooper84 on October 26, 2007, 01:51:37 PM
good for them, i flat earth still couldn't hold enough energy to move itself upwards at an accelerating rate of 9,8 m/s to keep a constant 1g.

haha your so thick its unbelievable are you lot on drugs? chocked up to yoru eyeballs i bet
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Torn Bishop on October 27, 2007, 12:21:15 AM
haha your so thick its unbelievable are you lot on drugs? chocked up to yoru eyeballs i bet
Nothing funnier than a dim person being ironic, athough it can get old.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Riles on October 28, 2007, 12:01:27 AM

Yet some scientists don't believe it will contract.  They believe it will continue indefinitely.


Not only that but the net energy required for this is zero, not infinite.Dont forget we are talking about space/time here, not the acceleration of a flat earth which does require  energy .
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: TheEngineer on October 28, 2007, 02:40:28 AM
Dark Energy.
Title: Re: Earth's Acceleration
Post by: Mr. Ireland on November 02, 2007, 03:22:00 PM
who said anything about inifinite? the big bang was very big, thats why it was called teh big bang, it started the universe from nothing, eventually it will run out of energy and some scientist believe it will start to contract again,

these elephants must be so old? and what do they eat/drink? and never known an elephant that could lift up a small hill let alone a mountain,? the earth? now that must be heavy, i hope they have back supports and leg braces, if i was those elephants id get another job

No it didn't.