The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: salmonguy on March 16, 2007, 06:44:35 PM
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If the sun is tiny and orbits the Earth, then how does it manage to cast the light it does upon the other planets of the Solar System?
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Hmm...magic?
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You'll be answered with a question, these fools can't grasp the concept of an actual answer.
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Well, come on? Surely one of you can
make up, sorry, work out, an answer?
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If the sun is tiny and orbits the Earth, then how does it manage to cast the light it does upon the other planets of the Solar System?
There is an infinity of suns. Some of them are located within this System. We know that on this local area alone there are seven suns.
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And just where are these other suns?
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can there be an infinity of suns, contained within a finite space? (3000 miles according to FE'ers)
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If the sun is tiny and orbits the Earth, then how does it manage to cast the light it does upon the other planets of the Solar System?
There is an infinity of suns. Some of them are located within this System. We know that on this local area alone there are seven suns.
Is there one per bit of land surrounding earth? So Sun v.2 for Pureland, Sun v.3 for Cyrodiil etc..
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lol seven suns
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lol seven suns
No dude he meant there are seven sins. He just hit U instead of I because they are next to each other.
Pride, Envy, Lust, Gluttony, Sloth, Wrath, and Greed.
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sloth! That's the one I was trying to remember last week. ::) :P
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If the sun is tiny and orbits the Earth, then how does it manage to cast the light it does upon the other planets of the Solar System?
There is an infinity of suns. Some of them are located within this System. We know that on this local area alone there are seven suns.
Is there one per bit of land surrounding earth? So Sun v.2 for Pureland, Sun v.3 for Cyrodiil etc..
No. Other lands have other suns. Our land has seven.
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can there be an infinity of suns, contained within a finite space? (3000 miles according to FE'ers)
No. There can only be an infinity of suns above the sum total of the Infinite Plane.
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Wait, so can you explain your seven sun model? Are you saying that Earth, in its flat form, has seven suns? Or does out Solar system have seven suns? Either way, why can we only ever see one, and why do the planets in our solar system get darker the further away they are from the sun in the round earth model of the solar system?
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Wait, so can you explain your seven sun model? Are you saying that Earth, in its flat form, has seven suns? Or does out Solar system have seven suns? Either way, why can we only ever see one, and why do the planets in our solar system get darker the further away they are from the sun in the round earth model of the solar system?
No, no, no.
Our LOCAL AREA has seven suns. The EARTH, being infinite, has an infinite number of suns.
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Wait, so can you explain your seven sun model? Are you saying that Earth, in its flat form, has seven suns? Or does out Solar system have seven suns? Either way, why can we only ever see one, and why do the planets in our solar system get darker the further away they are from the sun in the round earth model of the solar system?
No, no, no.
Our LOCAL AREA has seven suns. The EARTH, being infinite, has an infinite number of suns.
That still doesn't answer his question... man you're bad at this understand points thing.
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Wait, so can you explain your seven sun model? Are you saying that Earth, in its flat form, has seven suns? Or does out Solar system have seven suns? Either way, why can we only ever see one, and why do the planets in our solar system get darker the further away they are from the sun in the round earth model of the solar system?
No, no, no.
Our LOCAL AREA has seven suns. The EARTH, being infinite, has an infinite number of suns.
That still doesn't answer his question... man you're bad at this understand points thing.
I answered the following:
"Wait, so can you explain your seven sun model? Are you saying that Earth, in its flat form, has seven suns? Or does out Solar system have seven suns?"
If you do not understand how this answers that, please learn English.
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Can you explain the layout of these 7 suns, maybe a diagram would help.
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Can you explain the layout of these 7 suns, maybe a diagram would help.
I do not have such a diagram. This phenomenon has never been studied, since all scientists believe that there is only one Sun. This is because they were indoctrinated to believe in the "one huge sun" model.
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Wait, so can you explain your seven sun model? Are you saying that Earth, in its flat form, has seven suns? Or does out Solar system have seven suns? Either way, why can we only ever see one, and why do the planets in our solar system get darker the further away they are from the sun in the round earth model of the solar system?
No, no, no.
Our LOCAL AREA has seven suns. The EARTH, being infinite, has an infinite number of suns.
That still doesn't answer his question... man you're bad at this understand points thing.
I answered the following:
"Wait, so can you explain your seven sun model? Are you saying that Earth, in its flat form, has seven suns? Or does out Solar system have seven suns?"
If you do not understand how this answers that, please learn English.
I was more refering to the bolded ones in the first post. See you lack understanding again. You know the actually questions he asked at the end of it.
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Can you explain the layout of these 7 suns, maybe a diagram would help.
I do not have such a diagram. This phenomenon has never been studied, since all scientists believe that there is only one Sun. This is because they were indoctrinated to believe in the "one huge sun" model.
Your made up shit is getting old.
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Can you explain the layout of these 7 suns, maybe a diagram would help.
I do not have such a diagram. This phenomenon has never been studied, since all scientists believe that there is only one Sun. This is because they were indoctrinated to believe in the "one huge sun" model.
Your made up shit is getting old.
and tired...
when a horse is as lame as Franc, they shoot it.
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I am sorry that you believe the truth is "made up." But keep in mind that your religion of Round Earthism was founded by men. How do you know they didn't "make it up"?
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I am sorry that you believe the truth is "made up." But keep in mind that your religion of Round Earthism was founded by men. How do you know they didn't "make it up"?
Because I can do studies and experiments that show the earth is round. I've looked at the experiments showing the Earth was flat and I challenge the scientific merit and repeatability of the results.
The well experiment only proves you wrong because you can not actually understand it's true meaning.
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I am sorry that you believe the truth is "made up." But keep in mind that your religion of Round Earthism was founded by men. How do you know they didn't "make it up"?
Please point me in the direction of the other six suns.
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I am sorry that you believe the truth is "made up." But keep in mind that your religion of Round Earthism was founded by men. How do you know they didn't "make it up"?
Please point me in the direction of the other six suns.
Go to Australia and you'll see a different one. Go to Germany. Go to Nigeria. They all have different suns.
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I am sorry that you believe the truth is "made up." But keep in mind that your religion of Round Earthism was founded by men. How do you know they didn't "make it up"?
Please point me in the direction of the other six suns.
Go to Australia and you'll see a different one. Go to Germany. Go to Nigeria. They all have different suns.
So basically you can't. Shocking... not really your an idiot.
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I am sorry that you believe the truth is "made up." But keep in mind that your religion of Round Earthism was founded by men. How do you know they didn't "make it up"?
Please point me in the direction of the other six suns.
Go to Australia and you'll see a different one. Go to Germany. Go to Nigeria. They all have different suns.
So basically you can't. Shocking... not really your an idiot.
As a stupid redneck, I guess you have never been to foreign countries. That's okay.
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You assume I have never been to a different country... what about the plane I was in. On the way back from Europe. I live in western Canada by the way I was visiting relatives of mine in Holland. We were following the sun. It was perpetually setting as we came back. How could a single Sun be observed over both Europe and all of North America?
You should go on Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader. You'd probably loose and Jeff Foxworthy's probably your favourite comedian.
As I told you, When a horse is as lame as you they shoot it.
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You assume I have never been to a different country... what about the plane I was in. On the way back from Europe. I live in western Canada by the way I was visiting relatives of mine in Holland. We were following the sun. It was perpetually setting as we came back. How could a single Sun be observed over both Europe and all of North America?
You should go on Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader. You'd probably loose and Jeff Foxworthy's probably your favourite comedian.
As I told you, When a horse is as lame as you they shoot it.
Shut up troll.
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The truth is coming forth Franc doesn't have shit. He's starting to realize it. The delusions caused by his subconscious are waining. Perhaps he is not as lame as he appears.
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REers and their magical subconscious. Get outta here, trolls.
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I already told the engineer why I am here. My own amusement. Your idea's if you actually believe in them makes me laugh at how truely stupid you are, also makes me realize that there is nothing in conventional science that can convince you due to lacking intellect.
Though since I don't think anyone on this site believes it. I am here just to see how creative your retorts can be. So far though I am disappointed by you. The engineer and Tom provide much more humerous answers.
All in all I'm here because you people amuse me. Nothing more nothing less.
Now dance little one dance.
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Who wants you here? You're not wanted, you fucking troll.
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The people who love me aren't on this site I know that. Why are you pointing out obvious things?
I'm not here cause anyone wants me to be. I'm here to frustrate and annoy stupid people for my own amusement. Namely people like you.
Keep swearing too it just makes your points that much better.
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If the sun is tiny and orbits the Earth, then how does it manage to cast the light it does upon the other planets of the Solar System?
There is no solar system. It was just made up to support the conspiracy theory that earth is round.
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Okay, so, to clarrify what I'm understanding so far:
The flat Earth is infinite, it's just that nobody's ever noticed or gone further than the ice wall, nor has anyone from the lands beyond come here. There are seven different suns lighting the parts of the earth that we know of, and the rest of the unuiverse is a conspiracy that is somehow more profitable to maintain than going out and claiming the lands past the ice wall. The light cast by the false sun we round earthers believe in upon the rest of the planets in this solar system, visible to anyone through any telescope, is also part of your conspiracy. Nobody throughout our history of flight has ever noticed that there are multiple suns.
So (and I'd still like some not quite so ludicrous answers to my original questions) can you explain the solar model in this theory? Do the suns move? Are they spherical or discs? Why hasn't anyone noticed there are more than one? If the earth is infinite then the suns and moons cannot pass underneath it, so where do they go? How do solar eclipses work? How do they create the illusion of a solar system and all that encompases? If all scientists are deluded round earthers, why don't any of you flat earthers become scientists?
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can you explain the solar model in this theory? Do the suns move?
Yes.
Are they spherical or discs?
Spheres.
Why hasn't anyone noticed there are more than one?
There is only one visible at any point on our local area. Furthermore, most of the suns are "set" (i.e. lie inside their Earth Pocket) at any given time.
If the earth is infinite then the suns and moons cannot pass underneath it
You seem to confuse infinitely vast with infinite in depth. It could be that the Earth is not infinite in depth. Perhaps there are people living on the other side. I don't see why not.
How do solar eclipses work? How do they create the illusion of a solar system and all that encompases?
What do you mean?
If all scientists are deluded round earthers, why don't any of you flat earthers become scientists?
I was never that good in science classes.
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The ecplipse and illusion of universe questions were two seperate questions.
If the Earth is infinitely vast then it doesn't matter how deep it is. An infinitely vast earth has no edge and thus no place for the suns and moons to pass underneath. So where do they go? In fact, how do they even stay up if there's no gravity to make them orbit? Plus, if there's no gravity then people would fall off the bottom.
As to you not being any good at science, I'd say that goes a long way towards your belief in this crap. But if every last one of you sucks at science, and nobody who has even the slightest scientific ability believes in the flat earth, don't you think that says a little something? And if some flat earthers are good at science, why haven't they become scientists to help prove all this?
Also, why has nobody from the lands past the ice wall ever come here, and where can I go to learn more about your infinitely vast earth model?
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If the Earth is infinitely vast then it doesn't matter how deep it is. An infinitely vast earth has no edge and thus no place for the suns and moons to pass underneath.
I think you are missing something here. The Earth Pockets have already been discussed. There is a gigantic tunnel near the rim in which each sun "sets." The depth of these tunnels is as yet unknown but assumed ot be considerable. It is not entirely impossible for these tunnels to form an arc below the surface. Either way, "where things go" is already a known quantity.
As to you not being any good at science, I'd say that goes a long way towards your belief in this crap.
Just because I am not good enough at science to be a SCIENTIST, makes me an idiot?
Are YOU a scientist?
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As to you not being any good at science, I'd say that goes a long way towards your belief in this crap.
Just because I am not good enough at science to be a SCIENTIST, makes me an idiot?
Are YOU a scientist?
No I am not but I am good at science. He never said you were an idiot for not being a scientist, he said you're lack of understanding in science class explained your viewpoint.
Being a scientist has nothing to do with it; idiot.
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Exactly. I am not a doctor, and thus I am more likely to believe in a disease that doesn't exist than someone who is a doctor. Your lack of scientific understanding doesn't make you an idiot, but it leaves you more susceptible to theories which a scientific mind would know instantly to be false.
As to the holes, are they in the ice wall or the ocean?
And where do you believe all this came from? Did God create it this way?
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They are not "holes," they are called Pockets. These Pockets are located beyond the Ice Wall, in the region between our land and other lands.
I am an atheist so... no, no "God" created anything. If "God" exists, then there is no truth and no good.
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So where did all this come from?
What is in this region between out land and other lands? And on that note, how do you know about the other lands?
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So where did all this come from?
All what?
What is in this region between out land and other lands?
Mostly just ice and the Earth Pockets. A couple of sparse explorer camps, but only because this is an auspicious location: relatively peaceful and close enough to other major lands. Otherwise there would be no camps at all.
And on that note, how do you know about the other lands?
Reports from outlander explorers.
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where are these reports?
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I would absolutely love to see those reports, along with the copious amounts of photographs and video footage any such explorers would have taken. A simple photograph of the outside lands or the sun sinking into one of these 'pockets' would be enough to destroy the conspiracy. Even if nobody believed them at first, they would at least spur people on to check, quite easily with most aircrafts if you know not to believe your navigational equipment, and all the lies would be destroyed.
Where are the explorers that make the camps from?
And where did the entire universe come from, according to you? The endless expanse of flat earth?
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Even if nobody believed them at first, they would at least spur people on to check, quite easily with most aircrafts if you know not to believe your navigational equipment, and all the lies would be destroyed.
There is no way for a normal human, even with aircrafts, to go near or beyond the Ice Wall, because they would be shot down. The only explorers who have done so, have used cloak technology they got from another land.
Where are the explorers that make the camps from?
In this area, explorers are usually from PureLand, since it is the biggest land around that permits people to emigrate (although they have to smuggle people around). The Holy GrassLand is another logical origin. A couple come from other, smaller areas.
And where did the entire universe come from, according to you? The endless expanse of flat earth?
Cleavage in the Big Bang.
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Even if nobody believed them at first, they would at least spur people on to check, quite easily with most aircrafts if you know not to believe your navigational equipment, and all the lies would be destroyed.
There is no way for a normal human, even with aircrafts, to go near or beyond the Ice Wall, because they would be shot down. The only explorers who have done so, have used cloak technology they got from another land.
Qantas air plane company in Australia offers over flights of Antarctica
http://www-aadc.aad.gov.au/default.asp?casid=26999
http://www.antarcticconnection.com/antarctic/travel/getthere.shtml
Why would the government allow such overflights over Antarctica? Don't they know the people on these flights could expose there secret.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11650.0
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They are not gonna give up a multi-billion-dollar cash cow for nothing. They must have a plan.
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Do you believe that the ice wall is antarctica or not? If so, what of all the researchers? Who pays the guards and why are they willing to live their lives on the ice wall (you couldn't pay all of them more than they'd make by exposing the conspiracy)? Even if they were there, once the world was paying attention it would not end at one simple aircraft being shot down. And where are the reports and copious amounts of photos and video footage taken by your special stealth explorers?
How do you know so much about the other lands, and who named them?
What do you mean by cleavage in the Big Bang?
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Do you believe that the ice wall is antarctica or not?
Basically, yes.
If so, what of all the researchers?
What of them?
Who pays the guards and why are they willing to live their lives on the ice wall (you couldn't pay all of them more than they'd make by exposing the conspiracy)?
You don't need guards, just point surveillance when the presence of explorers becomes an inconvenience. A few jet planes and helicopters should be enough. Not a big deal for the biggest militaries in the world.
Even if they were there, once the world was paying attention it would not end at one simple aircraft being shot down.
Why not?
How do you know so much about the other lands, and who named them?
Well, people generally name the places they live in, or their government does.
As for how I know, I already told you. I have secondhand observations.
What do you mean by cleavage in the Big Bang?
You asked how the Infinite Plane could have arisen. Well, there must have been a cleavage in the Big Bang, separating the universe in two parts. The Earth was the separation.
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Do you believe that the ice wall is antarctica or not? If so, what of all the researchers? Who pays the guards and why are they willing to live their lives on the ice wall (you couldn't pay all of them more than they'd make by exposing the conspiracy)? Even if they were there, once the world was paying attention it would not end at one simple aircraft being shot down. And where are the reports and copious amounts of photos and video footage taken by your special stealth explorers?
How do you know so much about the other lands, and who named them?
What do you mean by cleavage in the Big Bang?
Note bold text.
And what, suddenly we see all these photographs and footage of this other land, we send out an expedition, it mysteriously dissapears and then everyone's going to say 'oh well, ever mind then?'
Your world view of politics and the like is almost unbelievably naive Franc.
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Just because I report to you the facts, does not mean I am naive. For some reason, you are so stuck in your RE belief that you cannot imagine the rest of the world (the infinite world, that is) working differently than it does here.
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reading through this topic... i see that so far...the RE'rs (trolls as u call us) are the only ones who have suppiled out side info from this site (stated above in the post about flying over antartica). once i see some outside info from a crediable site, i'll start believing these thigns.
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I'll ask again: Where are these reports and the photos and video footage that accompanies them?
Have you ever thought of going into politics? Given your inability to answer questions you don't like I think you'd be great.
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Have you ever thought of going into politics? Given your inability to answer questions you don't like I think you'd be great.
I am an Anarchist, so no.
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Even if nobody believed them at first, they would at least spur people on to check, quite easily with most aircrafts if you know not to believe your navigational equipment, and all the lies would be destroyed.
There is no way for a normal human, even with aircrafts, to go near or beyond the Ice Wall, because they would be shot down. The only explorers who have done so, have used cloak technology they got from another land.
Where are the explorers that make the camps from?
In this area, explorers are usually from PureLand, since it is the biggest land around that permits people to emigrate (although they have to smuggle people around). The Holy GrassLand is another logical origin. A couple come from other, smaller areas.
And where did the entire universe come from, according to you? The endless expanse of flat earth?
Cleavage in the Big Bang.
Is there a Pokeland too where I can go train Pokemon?
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You can't beat a bit of cleavage in a big bang.
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Once again: Where are the reports, photos and video footage the stealth explorers made and took of the other areas?
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Once again: Where are the reports, photos and video footage the stealth explorers made and took of the other areas?
I'm sure it isn't that you can't answer me, you must have simply not noticed the question every other time I've asked it, so here it is again.
I'm also yet to recieve an answer to my original question.
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Even if nobody believed them at first, they would at least spur people on to check, quite easily with most aircrafts if you know not to believe your navigational equipment, and all the lies would be destroyed.
There is no way for a normal human, even with aircrafts, to go near or beyond the Ice Wall, because they would be shot down. The only explorers who have done so, have used cloak technology they got from another land.
Where are the explorers that make the camps from?
In this area, explorers are usually from PureLand, since it is the biggest land around that permits people to emigrate (although they have to smuggle people around). The Holy GrassLand is another logical origin. A couple come from other, smaller areas.
And where did the entire universe come from, according to you? The endless expanse of flat earth?
Cleavage in the Big Bang.
Is there a Pokeland too where I can go train Pokemon?
I have not heard of such a land. But if it is physically possible, it must exist SOMEWHERE on the Infinite Plane. If it is not possible, then it cannot exist.
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You know I was joking in a way to insult your theory.
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All you people do is insult. But the truth always triumphs against violence in the end.
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All you people do is insult. But the truth always triumphs against violence in the end.
Is insulting being violent?
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All you people do is insult. But the truth always triumphs against violence in the end.
Is insulting being violent?
In your case, yes. I hope you get banned soon.
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All you people do is insult. But the truth always triumphs against violence in the end.
no it doesn't. Not really. Name one instance.
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All you people do is insult. But the truth always triumphs against violence in the end.
no it doesn't. Not really. Name one instance.
1. Gandhi and Indian Independence.
2. The abolition movement.
3. The emergence of science against violent religious authorities.
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I had thought about Ghandi, but then I thought, no, cause he was killed, and the fighting went on, and there still is fighting no? (correct me if I am wrong. But remember: there is no reason to be rude, incase you feel like being so).
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I had thought about Ghandi, but then I thought, no, cause he was killed, and the fighting went on, and there still is fighting no? (correct me if I am wrong. But remember: there is no reason to be rude, incase you feel like being so).
What the hell are you talking about? Gandhi advocated NON-VIOLENCE, and he obtained Indian independence through NON-VIOLENCE. He was assassinated in 1948 by a HINDU RADICAL, for reasons that had nothing to do with the issue of Indian independence.
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I had thought about Ghandi, but then I thought, no, cause he was killed, and the fighting went on, and there still is fighting no? (correct me if I am wrong. But remember: there is no reason to be rude, incase you feel like being so).
What the hell are you talking about? Gandhi advocated NON-VIOLENCE, and he obtained Indian independence through NON-VIOLENCE. He was assassinated in 1948 by a HINDU RADICAL, for reasons that had nothing to do with the issue of Indian independence.
That was rude... STOP BEING VIOLENT!11!!
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Once again: Where are the reports, photos and video footage the stealth explorers made and took of the other areas?
I'm sure it isn't that you can't answer me, you must have simply not noticed the question every other time I've asked it, so here it is again.
I'm also yet to recieve an answer to my original question.
And again? Can any of you answer this, or have you decided you're wrong after all?
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All you people do is insult. But the truth always triumphs against violence in the end.
That made no logical, surreal, artistic, or even mentally ill sense. At all. None.
An insult is not violence. An insult is...an insult. 90% of the insults on this board are completely inept.