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Flat Earth General / Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?

« Last post by DataOverFlow2022 on Today at 01:35:37 AM »

(waves hands)

How about not derailing the thread and post something that was actually in the two videos of the opening post.

One of the subjects of the video is the pressure gradient of the atmosphere.

Why bother with taking a box at a vacuum to 10,000 feet while ignoring FE doesn’t answer why the greater pressure and density at sea level isn’t equalizing with the less pressure and density at 10,000 feet in the first place.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?

« Last post by DataOverFlow2022 on Today at 01:33:33 AM »

 Only there is no such curvature drop.

Then why is the bottom of this tower increasingly physically blocked from view with distance by the curvature of the earth where zooming doesn’t unblocked the blocked portion back into view. 

Turning Torso (190m tall) - seen from 25km - 50km
66K views · 9 years ago#TurningTorsoFlatEarth

Bulma.  Notice zooming in didn’t reveal more of the tower physically blocked from view.  The zoom made the image bigger.   By the shape of the structure, zooming in didn’t reveal more of the structure physically blocked by earh’s curvature.


Where Bulma.  FE doesn’t even have a working explanation for phases of the moon and why lunar eclipses interrupt the cycle.  Where it’s just demonstrable proof of the heliocentric model. 

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Flat Earth General / Re: Pics of Another Sunrise Impossible on Flat Earth

« Last post by DataOverFlow2022 on Today at 01:30:28 AM »

If you weren't an idiot,

I’m not the one posting complete idiocy.

but it's too rigid. What have we learned kids? Bending a long section of straight mass (such as the single-bound One Piece) snaps it apart.

If bridges were really made to be dynamic,

Bulma.  Are you really this ignorant and stupid.

You never seen a thermal expansion joint for a bridge and / or overpass?  Never wondered what a joint like what is pictured below was for?

Calculating Thermal Expansion

Yes.  Bridges are made to be dynamic.


Bulma, your original post that is complete stupidity!

what I should expect to happen is some sort of tension while trying to wrap a level road to this "clearly visible" drop.

In the context of that post.  Where you think all roads have to be flat and level?  I provided examples if we follow your stupid logic that should be under greater tension due to following curvatures more extreme than the radius of the earth.

Anyway.  But roads and highways around here are anything but level and flat.  And designed to sheet water off them with crowns and grades.















Example after example of roads laid to follow the lay of the land.  Banked turns, over hills and down hills, roads laying over localized terrain with more extreme “curvature” than what the radius of the earth provides.  Nothing flat nor level about them.  No need to cut down through hills.

Where we know roads do crack and need repair from “tension”.










Where Bulma, you don’t even get you can role up sod.

Really? Fake rolls of grass? Yeah, I know that's a thing, but real grass is seeded.

Is your soil truly that shitty?

As pointed out already.  Sod is real grass, and there are farms dedicated to growing sod.  And they often sale it in roles. 

How Sod Is Harvested | This Old House

So Bulma.  Just like FE.  All you can do is make false assurances, lie, and make stupid false accusations that titer on slander.

Bulma are you this stupid or just a pathological liar.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Density doesnt make things go up or down, gravity does.

« Last post by turbonium2 on Today at 01:26:29 AM »

What decides whether an object rises up into air, or when an object is put up into air by an external force, first of all, because nothing exists in air to start with, and must be put up into air by an external force, where nothing exists to start with, but they ignore that part for their ‘laws of bs’, it’s cut out and they take it from the airborne part….

What decides if objects rise up in air or water, or fall or sink in air or water?

The relative mass and density of objects to the medium they’re within, decides what they do.

That is all that decides it, if all other factors are accounted for first.

Their two made up forces don’t mean s&);t, cannot explain s&&;t about this, because they’re just made up fairy tale s$$(t.

That’s why all objects of different masses fall through air at the same speed, being they’re all of more mass and density than the air they’re all within when they fall through it. More mass doesn’t matter in air, it’s the same for all objects having more mass and density than air, beyond that mass is not a factor. All are going through air at the same speed.

This cannot ever occur from actual forces, it would be impossible to have this happen at all. It’s the stupidest claim ever, and that’s quite an achievement too.

Force will emit energy at once, at some level.

Now the force which was emitted outward at once, at one level of energy, is done, what happens after that doesn’t matter, the force is emitted, and that’s it!

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What keeps us on the ground

« Last post by turbonium2 on Today at 12:09:02 AM »

If all things that we’ve always seen to be on the Earths surfaces of ground and waters, have always been seen on Earth, have always been on Earth, and always will be on Earth in the future, it’s a good indication that all things have always been on Earth since they first came to exist, were first created, even more likely that is when there has never been something from elsewhere land on Earth.

We’ll never know for sure, we can’t prove where all things on Earth originated from. But everything doesn’t always need that level of proof, to make a valid conclusion without an actual witness seeing it in person.

The weight of evidence is often enough to make a conclusion, a ruling, and we have more than enough evidence for that conclusion, as I see it.

When there’s no evidence it is otherwise, it’s certainly not the other way around more likely at all.

If all things on Earth originated on Earth, not elsewhere than on Earth, which all evidence indicates is the case, what that would mean, is not needing a force in the ball Earth to hold all things down to the surface, because all things were always on the surface from day one.

That’s what we start from, not all things floating around in ‘space’, nothing has ever been seen floating around in space, let alone crashing down on Earth, that’s complete nonsense

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What would a flat earth engineering school look like?

« Last post by turbonium2 on June 20, 2025, 10:58:37 PM »

Seeing a huge ship from a hundred feet away looks very small in the distance, so you believe it’s physically smaller when seen in the distance? No, when we see objects far from us, they look smaller to us, which is an illusion we see of their size, we don’t see their actual size at all in the distance. This is an illusion of their size, what we see of their size isn’t true, so what is not seen as real is an illusion.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What about ships on the ocean?

« Last post by turbonium2 on June 20, 2025, 10:36:53 PM »

Yes, I’m very aware of concentric circles, matching circles of one inner or outer circle with bigger or smaller matching circles.

Circles having the same distance from other circles, equidistant from other circles.

That’s why we call such circles as being concentric circles.

They aren’t parallel or level curves, straight lines are only called parallel or level lines.

Again, level is a path or distance between two points across each of two separate points.

A curve is also a path between two separate points across both points, between two points, as a path or length or distance.

The path over two separate points is what determines their shape, determines if it’s a curve or a straight path, because they’re not the same thing or same shape or same path.

Two matching up lines of equal distance could be two matching up curved lines or squiggly lines, but they are never parallel lines, only two straight lines of equal distance apart from one another are parallel lines. No others are parallel lines, they are matching lines, or concentric circular lines, but not parallel lines at all.

These people who are trying to twist the meanings of level and parallel into meaning a curve is sort of level to other curves, doesn’t understand what level means, or is a bs artist, most likely.

Level means straight and horizontal and flat lines or surfaces over a distance between two or more separate points, in one path over the two separate points.

That’s the same for a curve or any other line or shape, they are a path over a distance of two or more separate points, linked together as one line or shape.

Trying this bs spin about how level can mean level to a curved line or curved surface with another curved line or curved path that matches up to the first curve is just a fool.

There’s no contexts or ways to consider what level means, or use level to a curve, they mean very different things, they are opposites, in every way possible.

They are both a path over a distance of two separate points.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Misunderstanding

« Last post by yasoooo on June 20, 2025, 10:17:49 PM »

   The truth is that Christians leave the clear verses that confirm the non-divinity of Christ

And they cling to the verses that are examples  and evidence that he is a prophet and not a god

Unfortunately, Christians do not follow the true words of Christ


62 “I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”" (Mark 14:62).


Jesus answered, “If I tell you, you will not believe me, 68 and if I asked you, you would not answer. 69 But from now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the mighty God.”

Luke mentioned God and Jesus beside him.


The Son of Man, as is commonly said in the Gospels, is Jesus. The Power here is "God". So Jesus will sit (according to the text) at the right hand of God. So God and Jesus are two, since Jesus will be at the right hand of God. This proves the invalidity of the Trinity and the Incarnation.

 And it proves that God is (the father) alone
 And Jesus the son of God is metaphorical and is not equal to God (the Father) in his abilities




Note that the dialogue in the Gospel of Luke is completely different from the Gospel of Matthew and Mark, in addition to the absence of any dialogue like this in the Gospel of John!





كنت أسرق وأرهب الناس ولكن الإسلام أنقذني من هذه الحياة
 






   

غير مسلمين يشاهدون فيديو عن عظمة المرأة في الإسلام









حمزة يوقع موحد في الفخ بسؤال بسيط، هل تصدق أن البشر هبط في القمر ؟

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Flat Earth General / Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?

« Last post by markjo on June 20, 2025, 09:49:40 PM »

Because I live near the coast of Virginia, I could drive 200 miles and hit Everest's curvature drop in  miles. Only there is no such curvature drop.

That’s because the “curvature drop” is an FE straw man.  RE claims that down is always pointing towards the center of the earth, regardless of where you are or how far you travel on the surface of the globe.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?

« Last post by bulmabriefs144 on June 20, 2025, 09:35:26 PM »

"Explain how the Earth can be round when at 3000 miles the curvature drop is higher than Everest."

The Earth is round and curvature is gradual

The computer AI is well and truly brainwashed by what is has been taught.  Ummm, no it isn't.

(waves hands) curvature is gradual

No, it isn't.



Because I live near the coast of Virginia, I could drive 200 miles and hit Everest's curvature drop in  miles. Only there is no such curvature drop. Btw, how much higher? About  20,000,000 ft which is about 1000x higher at 3900 miles of travel. Never noticed this "gradual" increase. Doesn't exist. No roads adjust at all for this.