What is the conspiracy?

Lets have some theories as to what the conspiracy could be about.

To come back to the original topic of the thread, I think people assume too much when they see the word "conspiracy".

In the 17th century, Galileo Galilei promoted a heliocentric world view. He was forced by the church to recant his views. As most round Earthers also promote a heliocentric world view, they must believe that there was a "conspiracy" in place to keep people from believing in a heliocentric world in the 17th century. So what is the problem with a similar "conspiracy" today to keep people from believing in a flat Earth? Whatever reasons the church may have had in the 17th century to keep Galilei from spreading his ideas may be exactly the same reasons that today's governments have for letting people believe that the Earth is a sphere.

I personally don't actually think that a huge conspiracy is necessary. Throughout human history, the majority of humans have believed incredibly stupid things without a cabal of puppet masters behind the scenes to pull the strings. I think the number of people who have to be willing to actively conceal the thruth can be surprisingly small.

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Lets have some theories as to what the conspiracy could be about.

To come back to the original topic of the thread, I think people assume too much when they see the word "conspiracy".

In the 17th century, Galileo Galilei promoted a heliocentric world view. He was forced by the church to recant his views. As most round Earthers also promote a heliocentric world view, they must believe that there was a "conspiracy" in place to keep people from believing in a heliocentric world in the 17th century. So what is the problem with a similar "conspiracy" today to keep people from believing in a flat Earth? Whatever reasons the church may have had in the 17th century to keep Galilei from spreading his ideas may be exactly the same reasons that today's governments have for letting people believe that the Earth is a sphere.

I personally don't actually think that a huge conspiracy is necessary. Throughout human history, the majority of humans have believed incredibly stupid things without a cabal of puppet masters behind the scenes to pull the strings. I think the number of people who have to be willing to actively conceal the thruth can be surprisingly small.

you fucking moron, then why spend billions on a 'fake' space program? get that through your piece of shit of a brain.  why doesnt someone fly to the edge and see then unless they are in on this 'conspiracy'. a new level of stupidity has been reached by you. good work.

And you claim you regularly attend an internet forum?
UJB is not a flat earth believer, he is an alias dedicated to (sometimes) humorously satirizing the religious fanatic demographic of FE believers.

The only proven FE believers I am aware of who regularly post are Chaltier and Daniel, the founder of the site.

This is untrue, I just think at the extremities that most people considerable abnormal and satirical.
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you fucking moron, then why spend billions on a 'fake' space program?

It's funny how in this thread, Vegeta accuses flat Earthers of making immature insults. So far, however, those immature insults seemed to come mostly from round Earthers. I have always thought that in any discussion you can easily figure out who is right or wrong just based on how many insults people feel they have to use. People who use insults are rarely on the winning side of an argument.

get that through your piece of shit of a brain.  why doesnt someone fly to the edge and see then unless they are in on this 'conspiracy'.

Yes, I'm wondering too why they don't. Why don't you? You could simply prove flat Earthers wrong by travelling to the "south pole". But for some reason, you don't. Just like 99.99999% of the population, you'll never get further south than Cape Horn or Cape Agulhas in your life, yet you ask why people don't just fly south to see whether or not they will reach the edge of the Earth. I'd think the answer would be obvious.

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you fucking moron, then why spend billions on a 'fake' space program?

It's funny how in this thread, Vegeta accuses flat Earthers of making immature insults. So far, however, those immature insults seemed to come mostly from round Earthers. I have always thought that in any discussion you can easily figure out who is right or wrong just based on how many insults people feel they have to use. People who use insults are rarely on the winning side of an argument.

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get that through your piece of shit of a brain.  why doesnt someone fly to the edge and see then unless they are in on this 'conspiracy'.

Yes, I'm wondering too why they don't. Why don't you? You could simply prove flat Earthers wrong by travelling to the "south pole". But for some reason, you don't. Just like 99.99999% of the population, you'll never get further south than Cape Horn or Cape Agulhas in your life, yet you ask why people don't just fly south to see whether or not they will reach the edge of the Earth. I'd think the answer would be obvious.

i go to the south pole every month and have a picnic. there you go! you lose again. prove i dont.

so google earth goes to the trouble of taking 'satellite' photos of the world from a high altitude plane and they just kinda drew in antarctica did they? because it cant possibly exist.

i mean you been to the ice wall personally havent you? just had the evidence confiscated by the ice police right? how convienient.

i go to the south pole every month and have a picnic. there you go! you lose again. prove i dont.

What do you mean by "again"? So far you have not provided a single water-tight argument against a flat Earth or in favor of a round Earth here. If the Earth were indeed round, that would be an astonishingly sad performance.

oh i have provided exactly 57,843 reasons. it is not my fault you fail to grasp the obvious. i win again, bring on the next FE challenger, you are beneath my notice.

oh i have provided exactly 57,843 reasons.

57,843 reasons in 49 posts, about 40 of which were messages of the type "Huh huh, I win sukkah!"? I'm guessing that math has never been one of your main skills.

In any case, I may have missed a thread here, but I have yet to see an argument where you haven't lost in the most embarrassing way. Your arguments so far seem to be based on statements similar to "The Earth is round because it's round."

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oh i have provided exactly 57,843 reasons.

57,843 reasons in 49 posts, about 40 of which were messages of the type "Huh huh, I win sukkah!"? I'm guessing that math has never been one of your main skills.

In any case, I may have missed a thread here, but I have yet to see an argument where you haven't lost in the most embarrassing way. Your arguments so far seem to be based on statements similar to "The Earth is round because it's round."

it is kind of because the main flat earth argument is 'the earth is flat because it looks flat'.  good work!

it is kind of because the main flat earth argument is 'the earth is flat because it looks flat'.  good work!

I think the argument "It's flat because it looks flat" still easily wins over the argument "It's round because it is round". The former is at least based on observation, while the latter is purely a circular argument.

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it is kind of because the main flat earth argument is 'the earth is flat because it looks flat'.  good work!

I think the argument "It's flat because it looks flat" still easily wins over the argument "It's round because it is round". The former is at least based on observation, while the latter is purely a circular argument.

so if it is flat then we should be able to see the edge of the world with a telescope if we are high enough right?

This website is not a joke, nor are we a collective of "guys". We are free thinking christian individuals who endeavour to find truth.
-ujb.

Speak for yourself, I'm Pagan.

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This website is not a joke, nor are we a collective of "guys". We are free thinking christian individuals who endeavour to find truth.
-ujb.

Speak for yourself, I'm Pagan.

You need to be quelled.
-ujb.

then why spend billions on a 'fake' space program?

Because every dollar spent is a dollar earned by somebody else.

i.e. it's not a billion-dollar loss; it's a billion-dollar industry.

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it is kind of because the main flat earth argument is 'the earth is flat because it looks flat'.  good work!

I think the argument "It's flat because it looks flat" still easily wins over the argument "It's round because it is round". The former is at least based on observation, while the latter is purely a circular argument.

Hey, was that supposed to be a pun!  I guess any round earth logic must be a circular argument.

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This website is not a joke, nor are we a collective of "guys". We are free thinking christian individuals who endeavour to find truth.
-ujb.

Speak for yourself, I'm Pagan.

You need to be quelled.
-ujb.

They tried in Salem, and many other times and places.  We are everywhere.

Blessed Be.

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This website is not a joke, nor are we a collective of "guys". We are free thinking christian individuals who endeavour to find truth.
-ujb.

Speak for yourself, I'm Pagan.

You need to be quelled.
-ujb.

They tried in Salem, and many other times and places.  We are everywhere.

Blessed Be.

But we succeeded in Europe, beyond all reasonable doubt.
-ujb.

I was going to post, but then Faust commanded me to put the silly notion of the Earth being round into the minds of millions and form a secret coalition of kingdoms promoting this idea.

Be right back.

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This website is not a joke, nor are we a collective of "guys". We are free thinking christian individuals who endeavour to find truth.
-ujb.

Speak for yourself, I'm Pagan.

You need to be quelled.
-ujb.

They tried in Salem, and many other times and places.  We are everywhere.

Blessed Be.

But we succeeded in Europe, beyond all reasonable doubt.
-ujb.

Oh, ya...There's no more witches in Europe.  Right!

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This website is not a joke, nor are we a collective of "guys". We are free thinking christian individuals who endeavour to find truth.
-ujb.

Speak for yourself, I'm Pagan.

You need to be quelled.
-ujb.

They tried in Salem, and many other times and places.  We are everywhere.

Blessed Be.

But we succeeded in Europe, beyond all reasonable doubt.
-ujb.

Oh, ya...There's no more witches in Europe.  Right!

Women were killed in Europe because they were starting to dangerously outnumber men and they were becoming separatists (amazon-types), and men haters. Thank Jesus the Christians of the time culled this movement before it even got pregnant with a philosophy.
-ujb.

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Quote from: "UNCLE JIM BOB"

This website is not a joke, nor are we a collective of "guys". We are free thinking christian individuals who endeavour to find truth.
-ujb.

Speak for yourself, I'm Pagan.

You need to be quelled.
-ujb.

They tried in Salem, and many other times and places.  We are everywhere.

Blessed Be.

But we succeeded in Europe, beyond all reasonable doubt.
-ujb.

Oh, ya...There's no more witches in Europe.  Right!

Women were killed in Europe because they were starting to dangerously outnumber men and they were becoming separatists (amazon-types), and men haters. Thank Jesus the Christians of the time culled this movement before it even got pregnant with a philosophy.
-ujb.

UJB you need to be sterilized so no seed of yours shale ever cures this wonderful round  earth

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This website is not a joke, nor are we a collective of "guys". We are free thinking christian individuals who endeavour to find truth.
-ujb.

Speak for yourself, I'm Pagan.

You need to be quelled.
-ujb.

They tried in Salem, and many other times and places.  We are everywhere.

Blessed Be.

But we succeeded in Europe, beyond all reasonable doubt.
-ujb.

Oh, ya...There's no more witches in Europe.  Right!

Women were killed in Europe because they were starting to dangerously outnumber men and they were becoming separatists (amazon-types), and men haters. Thank Jesus the Christians of the time culled this movement before it even got pregnant with a philosophy.
-ujb.

Dude, with that kind of idea, who could blame them.  That's just sick.

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it is kind of because the main flat earth argument is 'the earth is flat because it looks flat'.  good work!

I think the argument "It's flat because it looks flat" still easily wins over the argument "It's round because it is round". The former is at least based on observation, while the latter is purely a circular argument.

I just laughed so hard blood came out. This is the simple minded thought process that opposes scientific discovery? I'm sorry, but you don't have to see somthing for it to be there, of course your more than welcome to look at any of the images taken by our wonderful NASA, a group of great minds whos techinilogical wizardry should've shut this entire, "Movement" (In the wrong direction of course) down years ago.

And by the way UJB, "...free thinking christian individual..." is an oxymoron, hell, the fact that you condone rape means you aren't a christian. Infact, you never have been, nor will you ever be, because your beleif system is not only based on, 'facts" you've made up, but goes entirley against the aristocratic system which governs christian thoughts and morals.

I just laughed so hard blood came out.

Here, have a tissue.

This is the simple minded thought process that opposes scientific discovery? I'm sorry, but you don't have to see somthing for it to be there, of course your more than welcome to look at any of the images taken by our wonderful NASA, a group of great minds whos techinilogical wizardry should've shut this entire, "Movement" (In the wrong direction of course) down years ago.

He was referring to the argument "the Earth is round because it is round" not "the Earth is round because it has been proven"

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it is kind of because the main flat earth argument is 'the earth is flat because it looks flat'.  good work!

I think the argument "It's flat because it looks flat" still easily wins over the argument "It's round because it is round". The former is at least based on observation, while the latter is purely a circular argument.

I just laughed so hard blood came out. This is the simple minded thought process that opposes scientific discovery? I'm sorry, but you don't have to see somthing for it to be there, of course your more than welcome to look at any of the images taken by our wonderful NASA, a group of great minds whos techinilogical wizardry should've shut this entire, "Movement" (In the wrong direction of course) down years ago.

And by the way UJB, "...free thinking christian individual..." is an oxymoron, hell, the fact that you condone rape means you aren't a christian. Infact, you never have been, nor will you ever be, because your beleif system is not only based on, 'facts" you've made up, but goes entirley against the aristocratic system which governs christian thoughts and morals.

Tis not an oxymorn at all, you are blinded by stereotypes that you've made up in your little liebral head. Rape is not denounced in the bible, however it is illegal in modern law. This is because the bible and modern law are fundamentally different. Really your jus' one of these weak 'modern' christians, or 'modern' apologetic liberals. There is only one common theme in your post, and that is that your a presumtive fool who does not know what or who he is talking about.
In Glory
-ujb.

UJB: I was just about to ask you how you can have faith without doubt, before you edited that bit out of your post :)

UJB: I was just about to ask you how you can have faith without doubt, before you edited that bit out of your post

I said no such thing.
In Truth
-ujb

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UJB: I was just about to ask you how you can have faith without doubt, before you edited that bit out of your post :)

I said no such thing.
In Truth
-ujb

Haha indeed.

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it is kind of because the main flat earth argument is 'the earth is flat because it looks flat'.  good work!

I think the argument "It's flat because it looks flat" still easily wins over the argument "It's round because it is round". The former is at least based on observation, while the latter is purely a circular argument.

I just laughed so hard blood came out. This is the simple minded thought process that opposes scientific discovery? I'm sorry, but you don't have to see somthing for it to be there, of course your more than welcome to look at any of the images taken by our wonderful NASA, a group of great minds whos techinilogical wizardry should've shut this entire, "Movement" (In the wrong direction of course) down years ago.

And by the way UJB, "...free thinking christian individual..." is an oxymoron, hell, the fact that you condone rape means you aren't a christian. Infact, you never have been, nor will you ever be, because your beleif system is not only based on, 'facts" you've made up, but goes entirley against the aristocratic system which governs christian thoughts and morals.

Tis not an oxymorn at all, you are blinded by stereotypes that you've made up in your little liebral head. Rape is not denounced in the bible, however it is illegal in modern law. This is because the bible and modern law are fundamentally different. Really your jus' one of these weak 'modern' christians, or 'modern' apologetic liberals. There is only one common theme in your post, and that is that your a presumtive fool who does not know what or who he is talking about.
In Glory
-ujb.

edited for the sake of the simple minded folk...

you are a fat ass pederest bastard, you and everything about you disgusts me.

All of your beleifs are wrong, everything you beleive in is a lie, and i want to cum into your rotting mothers corpse.