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Other Discussion Boards => Philosophy, Religion & Society => Topic started by: Definitely Not Swedish on October 31, 2020, 04:21:52 AM
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What do you guys think?
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So who is that one guy thinking trump wins?
SHOW YOUR FACE!
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America will descend into a shitshow regardless of who wins. We wont know who wins on the night, not for sure. Trump will claim victory anyway regardless of the result, even if Biden slam dunks it
Anyway, safe from all those crazy hate filled rabid 'Murican cultists, I'll be watching
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(https://i.ibb.co/qDCP53Z/ndalt.jpg)
Here is a prophecy from 1958:
"And I said, "Remember, in that day, before the end time comes, before the end time comes, that a woman... Now, you all keep this wrote down. There'll be a great powerful woman raise up, either be President, or dictator, or some great powerful woman in this United States."
Both outcomes can become true: a civil war (two years) where some of the states will secede from the union; a confederation where Harris will preside, and the rest of states which will accept "Trump" as president.
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So who is that one guy thinking trump wins?
SHOW YOUR FACE!
(https://i.imgur.com/SByIBT5.png)
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America will descend into a shitshow regardless of who wins. We wont know who wins on the night, not for sure. Trump will claim victory anyway regardless of the result, even if Biden slam dunks it
Anyway, safe from all those crazy hate filled rabid 'Murican cultists, I'll be watching
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/vjwACwDxB0hZ6/giphy.gif)
It will be like that old film “On the Beach” with Gregory Peck, you humming Waltzing Matilda as the world slowly dies by slowly spreading toxic Trump breath rather than radiation.
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(https://i.ibb.co/qDCP53Z/ndalt.jpg)
Here is a prophecy from 1958:
"And I said, "Remember, in that day, before the end time comes, before the end time comes, that a woman... Now, you all keep this wrote down. There'll be a great powerful woman raise up, either be President, or dictator, or some great powerful woman in this United States."
Both outcomes can become true: a civil war (two years) where some of the states will secede from the union; a confederation where Harris will preside, and the rest of states which will accept "Trump" as president.
Maybe but unlikely. States won't leave if Trump wins, rather its more likely to happen if Trump loses. And even that the supporters would rather "save" America by trying to keep it from liberals rather than leave it.
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Ya'll tryin' ta out stupid each other?
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The polls are meaningless in a system which does not award the winner of the popular vote anyway. Biden could win 39 states and Trump could win 11 and still get over the line
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(https://i.ibb.co/qDCP53Z/ndalt.jpg)
Here is a prophecy from 1958:
"And I said, "Remember, in that day, before the end time comes, before the end time comes, that a woman... Now, you all keep this wrote down. There'll be a great powerful woman raise up, either be President, or dictator, or some great powerful woman in this United States."
Both outcomes can become true: a civil war (two years) where some of the states will secede from the union; a confederation where Harris will preside, and the rest of states which will accept "Trump" as president.
Maybe but unlikely. States won't leave if Trump wins, rather its more likely to happen if Trump loses. And even that the supporters would rather "save" America by trying to keep it from liberals rather than leave it.
Right wing conservatives tried leaving and betraying America before, and got their butts kicked in the civil war.
If it comes down to it and they try again, they will just have to be defeated a second time.
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(https://i.ibb.co/qDCP53Z/ndalt.jpg)
Here is a prophecy from 1958:
"And I said, "Remember, in that day, before the end time comes, before the end time comes, that a woman... Now, you all keep this wrote down. There'll be a great powerful woman raise up, either be President, or dictator, or some great powerful woman in this United States."
Both outcomes can become true: a civil war (two years) where some of the states will secede from the union; a confederation where Harris will preside, and the rest of states which will accept "Trump" as president.
Maybe but unlikely. States won't leave if Trump wins, rather its more likely to happen if Trump loses. And even that the supporters would rather "save" America by trying to keep it from liberals rather than leave it.
Right wing conservatives tried leaving and betraying America before, and got their butts kicked in the civil war.
If it comes down to it and they try again, they will just have to be defeated a second time.
Doesn't Texas want to be it's own country or something? There are enough red necks there probably getting pissed off at the more and more immigrants that vote for the democrats
Perhaps when Texas becomes a 'blue' state, repugnicans might not care if it leaves given how many electoral college votes it commands and that it ruins their chances at the oval office lol
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I feel sorry for Joe.
the DNC is guilty of elder abuse.
The old man dear in the headlights look.
It's sad.
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(https://i.ibb.co/qDCP53Z/ndalt.jpg)
Here is a prophecy from 1958:
"And I said, "Remember, in that day, before the end time comes, before the end time comes, that a woman... Now, you all keep this wrote down. There'll be a great powerful woman raise up, either be President, or dictator, or some great powerful woman in this United States."
Both outcomes can become true: a civil war (two years) where some of the states will secede from the union; a confederation where Harris will preside, and the rest of states which will accept "Trump" as president.
W00t, I'm the next president!
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Nope, just a great powerful woman.
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The polls are meaningless in a system which does not award the winner of the popular vote anyway. Biden could win 39 states and Trump could win 11 and still get over the line
That's why they're breaking the polling down to individual states with a special focus on battleground states.
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The polls are meaningless in a system which does not award the winner of the popular vote anyway. Biden could win 39 states and Trump could win 11 and still get over the line
That's why they're breaking the polling down to individual states with a special focus on battleground states.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/2016-election-state-winners
Well if Biden did the same as Hillary but won Texas, he'd win 270. With Texas being hammered with covid and its changing demographics who knows
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(https://i.ibb.co/qDCP53Z/ndalt.jpg)
Here is a prophecy from 1958:
"And I said, "Remember, in that day, before the end time comes, before the end time comes, that a woman... Now, you all keep this wrote down. There'll be a great powerful woman raise up, either be President, or dictator, or some great powerful woman in this United States."
Both outcomes can become true: a civil war (two years) where some of the states will secede from the union; a confederation where Harris will preside, and the rest of states which will accept "Trump" as president.
Maybe but unlikely. States won't leave if Trump wins, rather its more likely to happen if Trump loses. And even that the supporters would rather "save" America by trying to keep it from liberals rather than leave it.
Right wing conservatives tried leaving and betraying America before, and got their butts kicked in the civil war.
If it comes down to it and they try again, they will just have to be defeated a second time.
Those weren't right wing conservatives, they were democrats.
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(https://i.ibb.co/qDCP53Z/ndalt.jpg)
Here is a prophecy from 1958:
"And I said, "Remember, in that day, before the end time comes, before the end time comes, that a woman... Now, you all keep this wrote down. There'll be a great powerful woman raise up, either be President, or dictator, or some great powerful woman in this United States."
Both outcomes can become true: a civil war (two years) where some of the states will secede from the union; a confederation where Harris will preside, and the rest of states which will accept "Trump" as president.
Maybe but unlikely. States won't leave if Trump wins, rather its more likely to happen if Trump loses. And even that the supporters would rather "save" America by trying to keep it from liberals rather than leave it.
Right wing conservatives tried leaving and betraying America before, and got their butts kicked in the civil war.
If it comes down to it and they try again, they will just have to be defeated a second time.
Those weren't right wing conservatives, they were democrats.
At some point, didn't each party end up doing a polar opposite shift in ideology?
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(https://i.ibb.co/qDCP53Z/ndalt.jpg)
Here is a prophecy from 1958:
"And I said, "Remember, in that day, before the end time comes, before the end time comes, that a woman... Now, you all keep this wrote down. There'll be a great powerful woman raise up, either be President, or dictator, or some great powerful woman in this United States."
Both outcomes can become true: a civil war (two years) where some of the states will secede from the union; a confederation where Harris will preside, and the rest of states which will accept "Trump" as president.
Maybe but unlikely. States won't leave if Trump wins, rather its more likely to happen if Trump loses. And even that the supporters would rather "save" America by trying to keep it from liberals rather than leave it.
Right wing conservatives tried leaving and betraying America before, and got their butts kicked in the civil war.
If it comes down to it and they try again, they will just have to be defeated a second time.
Those weren't right wing conservatives, they were democrats.
Technically Right wing/Conservative Democrats.
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Shifter, the parties have never been polar opposites, really. Both parties are capitalist, but the Republicans have been calling Democrats socialists and communists for 50 years. There are left wing fruitcakes, and some crazy shit creeping into the left right now, though. I hope the Republicans get their shit together after Trump because we need the balance.
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(https://i.ibb.co/qDCP53Z/ndalt.jpg)
Here is a prophecy from 1958:
"And I said, "Remember, in that day, before the end time comes, before the end time comes, that a woman... Now, you all keep this wrote down. There'll be a great powerful woman raise up, either be President, or dictator, or some great powerful woman in this United States."
Both outcomes can become true: a civil war (two years) where some of the states will secede from the union; a confederation where Harris will preside, and the rest of states which will accept "Trump" as president.
Maybe but unlikely. States won't leave if Trump wins, rather its more likely to happen if Trump loses. And even that the supporters would rather "save" America by trying to keep it from liberals rather than leave it.
Right wing conservatives tried leaving and betraying America before, and got their butts kicked in the civil war.
If it comes down to it and they try again, they will just have to be defeated a second time.
Those weren't right wing conservatives, they were democrats.
You know as well as I do that the Democrat/Republican labels swapped since then, most of it with Nixon's southern strategy to actively court racists.
You would have a hard time arguing that southern slave holders were liberals. ::) They were conservative right-wingers. You know, the same conservative right-wingers that fly confederate flags now, who fought against civil rights... those guys. You can't honestly say a confederate-flag waving Trump supporter has no connection to the losing side of the civil war.
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I hope the Republicans get their shit together after Trump because we need the balance.
Do you think Republicans need to shift to the left for there to be a proper balance?
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I hope the Republicans get their shit together after Trump because we need the balance.
Do you think Republicans need to shift to the left for there to be a proper balance?
Nope, I think they need to get rid of the wacky televangelists and conspiracy theories and go back to promoting democracy and the constitution. They can't put the brakes on the excesses of the left if they're just as crazy.
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I hope the Republicans get their shit together after Trump because we need the balance.
Do you think Republicans need to shift to the left for there to be a proper balance?
Nope, I think they need to get rid of the wacky televangelists and conspiracy theories and go back to promoting democracy and the constitution. They can't put the brakes on the excesses of the left if they're just as crazy.
Republicans are so far to the right they think NAZI's and White Supremacists are 'good people' and the Confederacy should have won the war. So far to the right they spent a decade attacking THEIR OWN health care program.
I think moving back in the direction of the center is what we need. The Democrats are a right leaning centrist group. Look at who we put up for the last two elections. Hillary. Biden. Yeah... real crazed left leaning wackos those two. Back in the Regan days they both would have been solid Republicans. Not sure what excesses Hillary and Biden are responsible for that you think need reigned in.
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Why do you think I'm referring to Hillary and Biden when neither of them are in office right now?
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I hope the Republicans get their shit together after Trump because we need the balance.
Do you think Republicans need to shift to the left for there to be a proper balance?
Nope, I think they need to get rid of the wacky televangelists and conspiracy theories and go back to promoting democracy and the constitution. They can't put the brakes on the excesses of the left if they're just as crazy.
I knew you weren't going to take the bait. ;D
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Why do you think I'm referring to Hillary and Biden when neither of them are in office right now?
Because those are the two people the Democrats picked to represent them. It shows how the party as a whole is leaning. If it had a serious severe left bend into crazyland, Bernie would have been nominated in a landside 8 years ago and would be the candidate right now with Omar as VP.
The fact we picked Hillary and Biden for president is a pretty strong sign the Democrats are far, far from being controlled by some crazy left field extremists.
If there is a problem with the Democrats being TOO liberal anywhere, it's at the fringes where it belongs. Nobody with any real power in the Democratic party can be called anything but a right leaning centrist.
It's the Republicans that need to come back to the center. The Democrats aren't even on their own side of center anymore.
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I hope the Republicans get their shit together after Trump because we need the balance.
Do you think Republicans need to shift to the left for there to be a proper balance?
Nope, I think they need to get rid of the wacky televangelists and conspiracy theories and go back to promoting democracy and the constitution. They can't put the brakes on the excesses of the left if they're just as crazy.
I knew you weren't going to take the bait. ;D
Oh, I thought this was a conversation.
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Why do you think I'm referring to Hillary and Biden when neither of them are in office right now?
Because those are the two people the Democrats picked to represent them. It shows how the party as a whole is leaning. If it had a serious severe left bend into crazyland, Bernie would have been nominated in a landside 8 years ago and would be the candidate right now with Omar as VP.
The fact we picked Hillary and Biden for president is a pretty strong sign the Democrats are far, far from being controlled by some crazy left field extremists.
If there is a problem with the Democrats being TOO liberal anywhere, it's at the fringes where it belongs. Nobody with any real power in the Democratic party can be called anything but a right leaning centrist.
It's the Republicans that need to come back to the center. The Democrats aren't even on their own side of center anymore.
I'm pretty sure there are hundreds of Democrats in office all over the country.
I don't know why you keep bringing up Hillary, but she at least didn't seem to pander as much to the goofy left wing as Biden and Harris have.
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I hope the Republicans get their shit together after Trump because we need the balance.
Do you think Republicans need to shift to the left for there to be a proper balance?
Nope, I think they need to get rid of the wacky televangelists and conspiracy theories and go back to promoting democracy and the constitution. They can't put the brakes on the excesses of the left if they're just as crazy.
I knew you weren't going to take the bait. ;D
Oh, I thought this was a conversation.
Nope, it's you suggesting that republicans need to abandon their position and meet democrats half way.
Rinse and repeat. We need to give up bit by bit. Eventually the Right position evaporates.
Let's say you want to kill someone and I don't.
Do you expect me to compromise?
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Why do you think I'm referring to Hillary and Biden when neither of them are in office right now?
Because those are the two people the Democrats picked to represent them. It shows how the party as a whole is leaning. If it had a serious severe left bend into crazyland, Bernie would have been nominated in a landside 8 years ago and would be the candidate right now with Omar as VP.
The fact we picked Hillary and Biden for president is a pretty strong sign the Democrats are far, far from being controlled by some crazy left field extremists.
If there is a problem with the Democrats being TOO liberal anywhere, it's at the fringes where it belongs. Nobody with any real power in the Democratic party can be called anything but a right leaning centrist.
It's the Republicans that need to come back to the center. The Democrats aren't even on their own side of center anymore.
I'm pretty sure there are hundreds of Democrats in office all over the country.
I don't know why you keep bringing up Hillary, but she at least didn't seem to pander as much to the goofy left wing as Biden and Harris have.
I'm bringing her up as evidence of which way the party leans.
Democrats picked Hillary.
Republicans picked Trump.
Which one is further from the center of normal, rational government?
I think if you want to award the goofy crown to someone, Trump is going to beat out Biden and Harris by a few million points.
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I hope the Republicans get their shit together after Trump because we need the balance.
Do you think Republicans need to shift to the left for there to be a proper balance?
Nope, I think they need to get rid of the wacky televangelists and conspiracy theories and go back to promoting democracy and the constitution. They can't put the brakes on the excesses of the left if they're just as crazy.
I knew you weren't going to take the bait. ;D
Oh, I thought this was a conversation.
Nope, it's you suggesting that republicans need to abandon their position and meet democrats half way.
Rinse and repeat. We need to give up bit by bit. Eventually the Right position evaporates.
Let's say you want to kill someone and I don't.
Do you expect me to compromise?
Wait, when did murder become the same as defending the constitution and democracy? Ah, fuck it. You are not on this forum to have conversations with people, I forgot for a moment.
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Why do you think I'm referring to Hillary and Biden when neither of them are in office right now?
Because those are the two people the Democrats picked to represent them. It shows how the party as a whole is leaning. If it had a serious severe left bend into crazyland, Bernie would have been nominated in a landside 8 years ago and would be the candidate right now with Omar as VP.
The fact we picked Hillary and Biden for president is a pretty strong sign the Democrats are far, far from being controlled by some crazy left field extremists.
If there is a problem with the Democrats being TOO liberal anywhere, it's at the fringes where it belongs. Nobody with any real power in the Democratic party can be called anything but a right leaning centrist.
It's the Republicans that need to come back to the center. The Democrats aren't even on their own side of center anymore.
I'm pretty sure there are hundreds of Democrats in office all over the country.
I don't know why you keep bringing up Hillary, but she at least didn't seem to pander as much to the goofy left wing as Biden and Harris have.
I'm bringing her up as evidence of which way the party leans.
Democrats picked Hillary.
Republicans picked Trump.
Which one is further from the center of normal, rational government?
I think if you want to award the goofy crown to someone, Trump is going to beat out Biden and Harris by a few million points.
I'm not trying to hand out a goofy crown. I fully understand that Trump is a fucking clown.
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Time for a prediction.
I predict Biden will win Texas, the early voting data that's being reported as favouring GOP 53% to 36%, is not reliable because Texas doesn't record party affiliation on the early voting data Instead they use a modelling service "modeled by TargetSmart from multiple commercial sources"
I fail to see how that reliably picks up first time voters.
Plus the Texas GOP has done everything possible to piss people off, one ballot box per county, trying to overule the drive-in ballots, yahoos trying to run people off the road in New Braunfels.
Texas goes blue.
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The Lincoln Project is live right now, it's pretty fun
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Time for a prediction.
I predict Biden will win Texas, the early voting data that's being reported as favouring GOP 53% to 36%, is not reliable because Texas doesn't record party affiliation on the early voting data Instead they use a modelling service "modeled by TargetSmart from multiple commercial sources"
I fail to see how that reliably picks up first time voters.
Plus the Texas GOP has done everything possible to piss people off, one ballot box per county, trying to overule the drive-in ballots, yahoos trying to run people off the road in New Braunfels.
Texas goes blue.
I predict Texas will go for Biden, and then the GOP will sue and disqualify a few hundred thousands Democratic votes and the Supreme Court will hand it to Trump.
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I'm not trying to hand out a goofy crown. I fully understand that Trump is a fucking clown.
That sounds rational. ::)
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May God have mercy on your vote, America.
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Good luck America, return to sanity.
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Fingers crossed. It's gonna be a dicey month or so, for sure.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/three-words-haunt-joe-biden-130020853.html
In case a civil war ensues in the USA, we must remember how Lincoln had trashed the Constitution:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140131011415/https://snapoutofitamerica.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/the-terrible-truth-about-abraham-lincoln-and-the-confederate-war/
In his first four months, he:
Failed to call Congress into session after the South fired upon Fort Sumter, in direct violation of the Constitution.
Called up an army of 75,000 men, bypassing the Congressional authority in direct violation of the Constitution.
Unilaterally suspended the writ of habeas corpus, a function of Congress, violating the Constitution. This gave him the power, as he saw it, to arrest civilians without charge and imprison them indefinitely without trial—which he did.
Ignored a Supreme Court order to restore the right of habeas corpus, thus violating the Constitution again and ignoring the Separation of Powers which the Founders put in place exactly for the purpose of preventing one man’s using tyrannical powers in the executive.
When the Chief Justice forwarded a copy of the Supreme Court’s decision to Lincoln, he wrote out an order for the arrest of the Chief Justice and gave it to a U.S. Marshall for expedition, in violation of the Constitution.
Unilaterally ordered a naval blockade of southern ports, an act of war, and a responsibility of Congress, in violation of the Constitution.
Commandeered and closed over 300 newspapers in the North, because of editorials against his war policy and his illegal military invasion of the South. This clearly violated the First Amendment freedom of speech and press clauses.
Sent in Army forces to destroy the printing presses and other machinery at those newspapers, in violation of the Constitution.
Arrested the publishers, editors and owners of those newspapers, and imprisoned them without charge and without trial for the remainder of the war, all in direct violation of both the Constitution and the Supreme Court order aforementioned.
Arrested and imprisoned, without charge or trial, another 15,000-20,000 U.S. citizens who dared to speak out against the war, his policies, or were suspected of anti-war feelings. (Relative to the population at the time, this would be equivalent to President G.W. Bush arresting and imprisoning roughly 150,000-200,000 Americans without trial for “disagreeing” with the Iraq war; can you imagine?)
Sent the Army to arrest the entire legislature of Maryland to keep them from meeting legally, because they were debating a bill of secession; they were all imprisoned without charge or trial, in direct violation of the Constitution.
Unilaterally created the state of West Virginia in direct violation of the Constitution.
Sent 350,000 Northern men to their deaths to kill 350,000 Southern men in order to force the free and sovereign states of the South to remain in the Union they, the people, legally voted to peacefully withdraw from, all in order to continue the South’s revenue flow into the North.
The people are yet to find out the reason why Michael Pence was selected as VP.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/three-words-haunt-joe-biden-130020853.html
In case a civil war ensues in the USA, we must remember how Lincoln had trashed the Constitution:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140131011415/https://snapoutofitamerica.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/the-terrible-truth-about-abraham-lincoln-and-the-confederate-war/
In his first four months, he:
Failed to call Congress into session after the South fired upon Fort Sumter, in direct violation of the Constitution.
Called up an army of 75,000 men, bypassing the Congressional authority in direct violation of the Constitution.
Unilaterally suspended the writ of habeas corpus, a function of Congress, violating the Constitution. This gave him the power, as he saw it, to arrest civilians without charge and imprison them indefinitely without trial—which he did.
Ignored a Supreme Court order to restore the right of habeas corpus, thus violating the Constitution again and ignoring the Separation of Powers which the Founders put in place exactly for the purpose of preventing one man’s using tyrannical powers in the executive.
When the Chief Justice forwarded a copy of the Supreme Court’s decision to Lincoln, he wrote out an order for the arrest of the Chief Justice and gave it to a U.S. Marshall for expedition, in violation of the Constitution.
Unilaterally ordered a naval blockade of southern ports, an act of war, and a responsibility of Congress, in violation of the Constitution.
Commandeered and closed over 300 newspapers in the North, because of editorials against his war policy and his illegal military invasion of the South. This clearly violated the First Amendment freedom of speech and press clauses.
Sent in Army forces to destroy the printing presses and other machinery at those newspapers, in violation of the Constitution.
Arrested the publishers, editors and owners of those newspapers, and imprisoned them without charge and without trial for the remainder of the war, all in direct violation of both the Constitution and the Supreme Court order aforementioned.
Arrested and imprisoned, without charge or trial, another 15,000-20,000 U.S. citizens who dared to speak out against the war, his policies, or were suspected of anti-war feelings. (Relative to the population at the time, this would be equivalent to President G.W. Bush arresting and imprisoning roughly 150,000-200,000 Americans without trial for “disagreeing” with the Iraq war; can you imagine?)
Sent the Army to arrest the entire legislature of Maryland to keep them from meeting legally, because they were debating a bill of secession; they were all imprisoned without charge or trial, in direct violation of the Constitution.
Unilaterally created the state of West Virginia in direct violation of the Constitution.
Sent 350,000 Northern men to their deaths to kill 350,000 Southern men in order to force the free and sovereign states of the South to remain in the Union they, the people, legally voted to peacefully withdraw from, all in order to continue the South’s revenue flow into the North.
The people are yet to find out the reason why Michael Pence was selected as VP.
Well let's hope we don't find ourselves in the midst of a civil war.
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https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/us-election-2020-first-votes-announced-at-midnight-in-dixville-notch/news-story/5d5c919e1675477d5f16d625b6a1c07fs
Not looking good for Trump so far....
The first Election Day votes have been counted after the clocked ticked past midnight on the East Coast of the United States.
In the tiny township of Dixville Notch, New Hampshire on the US-Canada border, Les Otten was the first to cast his vote.
The polling tradition – a national spectacle – began in 1960 in the wood-panelled ballot room of The Balsams Resort.
This year, all five midnight votes went to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and there were none for Donald Trump and Mike Pence.
“I’m a lifelong Republican, voting for Joe Biden for President,” Mr Otten said in a video posted to Twitter.
“I don’t agree with him on a lot of issues but I believe it’s time to find what unites us, not what divides us.
“It’s time to rebuild the heart of what makes us a great country. That starts with electing leaders of character who are truthful and will put the country’s welfare ahead of all else, and who will show respect for all people regardless of their gender, their race, their religion or their political beliefs.”
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In case a civil war ensues in the USA, we must remember how Lincoln had trashed the Constitution:
Yeah, hopefully nobody votes for him today.
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I hope the Republicans get their shit together after Trump because we need the balance.
Do you think Republicans need to shift to the left for there to be a proper balance?
Nope, I think they need to get rid of the wacky televangelists and conspiracy theories and go back to promoting democracy and the constitution. They can't put the brakes on the excesses of the left if they're just as crazy.
Lmao this is the central issue now I guess, putting a break on "the excesses of the left". STOP BEING MEAN ON TWITTER!
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I think if the Democrats really wanted to get in touch with their natural grass roots they would do well to give more time to the progressives at their conventions, than pandering to the Clinton's (still under suspicion of Epstein involvement), and giving more speaking time to Republicans who fund right wing anti-abortion groups than to AOC, who is the shining light amongst a very dull and out of touch bunch of white men.
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I hope the Republicans get their shit together after Trump because we need the balance.
Do you think Republicans need to shift to the left for there to be a proper balance?
Nope, I think they need to get rid of the wacky televangelists and conspiracy theories and go back to promoting democracy and the constitution. They can't put the brakes on the excesses of the left if they're just as crazy.
Lmao this is the central issue now I guess, putting a break on "the excesses of the left". STOP BEING MEAN ON TWITTER!
your retarted. The issue are laws passed in the name of woke.
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I think there's a difference between left wing and woke wing, can't lump them together
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The left panders to the woke, and the left who are not woke are sidelined. I wish there were enough never wokers, like the never Trumpers.
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The left panders to the woke, and the left who are not woke are sidelined. I wish there were enough never wokers, like the never Trumpers.
This is what I don't understand. How are the non-woke sidelined?
Like I pointed out, Hillary and Biden were the last two Democratic candidates the left chose to represent them. Are they woke?
I'm also still not sure what woke means. It's just a label, a word I hear people complain about. What are the actual policies that the Democrats are enacting that are the problem?
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I hope the Republicans get their shit together after Trump because we need the balance.
Do you think Republicans need to shift to the left for there to be a proper balance?
Nope, I think they need to get rid of the wacky televangelists and conspiracy theories and go back to promoting democracy and the constitution. They can't put the brakes on the excesses of the left if they're just as crazy.
Lmao this is the central issue now I guess, putting a break on "the excesses of the left". STOP BEING MEAN ON TWITTER!
your retarted. The issue are laws passed in the name of woke.
Yeah, laws for what are truly the most important and burning topics are passed in the name of woke. Like who gets or who doesn't get the covid stimulus packages. Or healthcare. Or taxes. Or abortion bans. Or wars. Or concentration camps. Oh wait, no, you're just complaining about trans people, again.
It's really grating.
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I predict that the real winners of the election will be the lawyers.
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You think that Hillary and Biden are the only Democrats for some reason. Hillary is not even a candidate for anything!
The non woke are sidelined because if they speak they can (and have been) fired from their jobs, kicked out of organizations, etc.
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You think that Hillary and Biden are the only Democrats for some reason. Hillary is not even a candidate for anything!
The non woke are sidelined because if they speak they can (and have been) fired from their jobs, kicked out of organizations, etc.
So the "woke" are the cancel culture people for the most part?
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What is your definition of "woke"?
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What is your definition of "woke"?
I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking. I guess what I've absorbed as the meaning is a range. From those really open and supportive of human rights issues all the way across to those who will launch a campaign to end you because you may have espoused a controversial view that may appear archaic in 2020 terms.
Edit: When I think of the latter part of my description wokeness, that Seinfeld episode comes to mind where Kramer is in the Aids Walk but refuses to wear the ribbon.
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I hope the Republicans get their shit together after Trump because we need the balance.
Do you think Republicans need to shift to the left for there to be a proper balance?
Nope, I think they need to get rid of the wacky televangelists and conspiracy theories and go back to promoting democracy and the constitution. They can't put the brakes on the excesses of the left if they're just as crazy.
Lmao this is the central issue now I guess, putting a break on "the excesses of the left". STOP BEING MEAN ON TWITTER!
your retarted. The issue are laws passed in the name of woke.
Yeah, laws for what are truly the most important and burning topics are passed in the name of woke. Like who gets or who doesn't get the covid stimulus packages. Or healthcare. Or taxes. Or abortion bans. Or wars. Or concentration camps. Oh wait, no, you're just complaining about trans people, again.
It's really grating.
I don't know why you think who gets a covid stimulus package is based on their level of wokeness, but they didn't even ask which party anyone belongs to last time! Ditto on healthcare, they don't have a political party check on the forms. Or taxes, wealthy wokies get the same unfair tax breaks as the unwoke. Maybe if the woke weren't afraid of the word "women" they could fight effectively against abortion bans. Last I checked the Democrats aren't exactly opposed to war. I don't know which concentration camps you're referring to, but our country has been locking illegal immigrants up for a long time.
Yeah, I'm sure it's really grating for the women being housed in prison with rapists! Or fired from their jobs, or too afraid to go to the bathroom at work, etc. Women are the worst, right?
You guys are just as bad as the Trump cultists. If we aren't critical of our own side we end up with the worst choices.
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You think that Hillary and Biden are the only Democrats for some reason. Hillary is not even a candidate for anything!
The non woke are sidelined because if they speak they can (and have been) fired from their jobs, kicked out of organizations, etc.
No they are not the only Democrats. But you keep saying the non-woke are sidelined, and I keep pointing out that all the highest level Democrats who actually have power are all at the very least center, if not right leaning. Hillary, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer... none of these are crazy extreme left wing radicals. If you think they are, please explain what bills they passed that you consider dangerously leftist.
On the other side... we have Trump and the GOP who are actively courting racists and literal NAZIs and pushing hate and intolerance and trying to build a literal wall around the country to keep scary people out.
And as far as being unable to get a job due to your views, try going into an all white conservative southern town as a black and see how well that goes for you. Do you really think the 'woke' is the most dangerous, repressive, ignorant group and the biggest danger to democracy and freedom? Are the 'woke' pushing for genocide and ethnic cleansing? I don't recall any 'woke' mobs lynching thousands of people for decades because they accidentally called them the wrong gender pronoun.
Don't forget it's the liberal left that gave women the right to vote. Conservatives fought against it. Where is the line between women's rights you approve of, and 'woke' which is an existential threat?
What sort of non-woke things get you fired? Examples?
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What is your definition of "woke"?
You guys really don't know? Woke used to mean socially aware of discrimination against black people, and it still does in some ways, but it has been appropriated by the navel gazers. Now it means silencing political debate, threatening to rape and kill women, getting people fired, promotion of critical theories, accepting pedophilia as a sexual orientation, erasing sex as a legal (and scientific) category, promoting the sex trade, eradicating single sex spaces, etc. If it was just weirdos talking about it, I wouldn't give a shit. I don't care if some rando on Twitter says his penis is female, but we have govts passing laws based on this garbage.
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You think that Hillary and Biden are the only Democrats for some reason. Hillary is not even a candidate for anything!
The non woke are sidelined because if they speak they can (and have been) fired from their jobs, kicked out of organizations, etc.
No they are not the only Democrats. But you keep saying the non-woke are sidelined, and I keep pointing out that all the highest level Democrats who actually have power are all at the very least center, if not right leaning. Hillary, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer... none of these are crazy extreme left wing radicals. If you think they are, please explain what bills they passed that you consider dangerously leftist.
On the other side... we have Trump and the GOP who are actively courting racists and literal NAZIs and pushing hate and intolerance and trying to build a literal wall around the country to keep scary people out.
And as far as being unable to get a job due to your views, try going into an all white conservative southern town as a black and see how well that goes for you. Do you really think the 'woke' is the most dangerous, repressive, ignorant group and the biggest danger to democracy and freedom? Are the 'woke' pushing for genocide and ethnic cleansing? I don't recall any 'woke' mobs lynching thousands of people for decades because they accidentally called them the wrong gender pronoun.
Don't forget it's the liberal left that gave women the right to vote. Conservatives fought against it. Where is the line between women's rights you approve of, and 'woke' which is an existential threat?
What sort of non-woke things get you fired? Examples?
Hillary is not in power!
You keep building a strawman, and then arguing all those paragraphs against the strawman.
I never mentioned the highest level Democrats, except to say they pander to the woke. Politicians pander, it's what they do. It doesn't mean they are themselves crazy extreme left wing radicals (all your words, by the way). Leftists are communist, I have never accused any of them of being communist.
Again, I am not in favor of Trump.
I live in the fucking South. Black people have jobs. Stop infantilizing them. Also, stop with the ridiculous hyperbole, it's not helping you make any points. You have made up this "most dangerous, repressive, ignorant group and the biggest danger to democracy and freedom" opinion you think I have and then you want me to defend that opinion? Try engaging with what I posted instead of your own imagination.
The current liberal left weren't even alive to "give" women the right to vote. A right women fought for. A right women were tortured and jailed for. The right to vote wasn't given to women.
Here's one example. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/502975-california-man-fired-over-alleged-white-power-sign-says-he-was (he's not white, btw) If you really want to know about it, you'd stop making shit up and look for it yourself.
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What is your definition of "woke"?
You guys really don't know? Woke used to mean socially aware of discrimination against black people, and it still does in some ways, but it has been appropriated by the navel gazers. Now it means silencing political debate, threatening to rape and kill women, getting people fired, promotion of critical theories, accepting pedophilia as a sexual orientation, erasing sex as a legal (and scientific) category, promoting the sex trade, eradicating single sex spaces, etc. If it was just weirdos talking about it, I wouldn't give a shit. I don't care if some rando on Twitter says his penis is female, but we have govts passing laws based on this garbage.
It sounds like it's been appropriated by more than just one group to the point where the term doesn't mean a whole lot.
Those examples are helpful. I can agree with some of those.
Raping and killing is bad, obviously.
Some of the others, that gets tricky. Silencing political debate. How exactly? I fully agree with the first amendment, but if I go to a restaurant and overhear the staff making racist comments about Obama, I'll pack my things and go elsewhere. That's not woke, that's just expressing MY freedom.
Promoting the sex trade. We got into this before, and have different views on porn and sex workers. Agree to disagree.
Eradicating single sex spaces. Not sure what this means. I suspect something with who gets to go to what bathroom? If you think there are only two genders, then we are in disagreement again, I think human biology is a lot more complicated than what sex organs we are born with.
A lot of this seems to come down to sex, which is a touchy subject for most people. But there is a very wide line here, going from allowing women to vote to firing you if you forget someone's pronoun. Liberal policies do a lot of good but of course you can go to far.
All in all, I don't see anything here that is anywhere near as bad as letting NAZIs get a foothold, or encouraging White Supremacy, two groups that have committed massive atrocities and still push for using murder and violence to cleanse 'their' country.
If I had to pick a side, I'll pick the side that lets some trans-woman into 'my' bathroom over someone who wants to use murder and violence to force non-whites back into slavery and thinks anyone who doesn't look like them is sub-human and worthless.
It's just no contest.
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There are thousands of genders, there are only two sexes.
You seem to think that criticizing the left is the same as letting the Nazis win. Or that I want Trump to be reelected. You don't make a lot of sense. I feel it is important to hold your own side accountable.
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Its pretty shitty if the only options are life being shit for one oppressed group or life being shit for another oppressed group. How about a proper left wing that understands oppression and class analysis and how to find the fine line when rights conflict.
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You think that Hillary and Biden are the only Democrats for some reason. Hillary is not even a candidate for anything!
The non woke are sidelined because if they speak they can (and have been) fired from their jobs, kicked out of organizations, etc.
No they are not the only Democrats. But you keep saying the non-woke are sidelined, and I keep pointing out that all the highest level Democrats who actually have power are all at the very least center, if not right leaning. Hillary, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer... none of these are crazy extreme left wing radicals. If you think they are, please explain what bills they passed that you consider dangerously leftist.
On the other side... we have Trump and the GOP who are actively courting racists and literal NAZIs and pushing hate and intolerance and trying to build a literal wall around the country to keep scary people out.
And as far as being unable to get a job due to your views, try going into an all white conservative southern town as a black and see how well that goes for you. Do you really think the 'woke' is the most dangerous, repressive, ignorant group and the biggest danger to democracy and freedom? Are the 'woke' pushing for genocide and ethnic cleansing? I don't recall any 'woke' mobs lynching thousands of people for decades because they accidentally called them the wrong gender pronoun.
Don't forget it's the liberal left that gave women the right to vote. Conservatives fought against it. Where is the line between women's rights you approve of, and 'woke' which is an existential threat?
What sort of non-woke things get you fired? Examples?
Hillary is not in power!
You keep building a strawman, and then arguing all those paragraphs against the strawman.
I never mentioned the highest level Democrats, except to say they pander to the woke. Politicians pander, it's what they do. It doesn't mean they are themselves crazy extreme left wing radicals (all your words, by the way). Leftists are communist, I have never accused any of them of being communist.
Again, I am not in favor of Trump.
I live in the fucking South. Black people have jobs. Stop infantilizing them. Also, stop with the ridiculous hyperbole, it's not helping you make any points. You have made up this "most dangerous, repressive, ignorant group and the biggest danger to democracy and freedom" opinion you think I have and then you want me to defend that opinion? Try engaging with what I posted instead of your own imagination.
The current liberal left weren't even alive to "give" women the right to vote. A right women fought for. A right women were tortured and jailed for. The right to vote wasn't given to women.
Here's one example. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/502975-california-man-fired-over-alleged-white-power-sign-says-he-was (he's not white, btw) If you really want to know about it, you'd stop making shit up and look for it yourself.
It was only 4 years ago Hillary was a few votes away from becoming the most powerful person on the planet. I'd say she's a good example of what mainstream Democrats represent.
As for the guy getting fired, that looks like some class-a bullshit, I agree.
But if that's the worst the extreme far left can do, I'd take that over what minorities in the south have to deal with and yes, I've lived there too. I've lived all over the country in fact and I've seen racists in action too many times to want to remember. I've seen violence. I've seen hate. I've seen people shot over it. Beaten.
Blacks have jobs in the south but if you think they don't face racism and discrimination... I'm not sure what to say there.
I've never seen a 'woke' kneel on someone's neck until they died or shoot them in the back.
When the 'woke' start to burn crosses and string people up, then I'll take them as a threat. I just haven't seen anything worth getting worked up over to the point I start voting Republican to stop them. It's the right that needs to be hauled back to center.
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Its pretty shitty if the only options are life being shit for one oppressed group or life being shit for another oppressed group. How about a proper left wing that understands oppression and class analysis and how to find the fine line when rights conflict.
The problem is there is no line, it becomes a vast grey area far too quickly to make everyone happy.
But I agree we are doing a crap job of it right now.
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The problem is that you guys cant read, because if you could you'd see that this thread is not about the crap you are trying to argue about right now.
Scg, pls ban jja and then ban yourself for off topic/spam. Thank you.
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JJA a racist didn't kneel on George Floyd's neck in the South.
You referred to the "extreme far left" not me. Learn how to debate without the use of strawmen you invent.
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How about a proper left wing that understands oppression and class analysis and how to find the fine line when rights conflict.
That has never existed in the USA. Most Americans don't even think class exists, or that unless you live on the street you are middle class, which is the pretty much the same as denying it.
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The left did used to be more representative of the working class, but that was squashed. I don't know how it happened, but I kind of think it was the same time the word "liberal" became associated with communism. Our left started moving towards the right.
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The left did used to be more representative of the working class, but that was squashed. I don't know how it happened, but I kind of think it was the same time the word "liberal" became associated with communism.
Was that about the time that "socialism" became a synonym for "communism"?
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This is out of date.
Communism is now equated with anything the Democratic party does.
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True fact, comrade.
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The left did used to be more representative of the working class, but that was squashed. I don't know how it happened, but I kind of think it was the same time the word "liberal" became associated with communism. Our left started moving towards the right.
It happened when Republicans destroyed the unions. Regan is responsible for the lions share of it, but the GOP has been working to kill them off.
They managed to convince the working class to get rid of the only group that actually cared about them... themselves.
"Stop representing yourself!"
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The problem is that you guys cant read, because if you could you'd see that this thread is not about the crap you are trying to argue about right now.
Scg, pls ban jja and then ban yourself for off topic/spam. Thank you.
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The left did used to be more representative of the working class, but that was squashed. I don't know how it happened, but I kind of think it was the same time the word "liberal" became associated with communism. Our left started moving towards the right.
It happened when Republicans destroyed the unions. Regan is responsible for the lions share of it, but the GOP has been working to kill them off.
They managed to convince the working class to get rid of the only group that actually cared about them... themselves.
"Stop representing yourself!"
To be fair, unions are prone to corruption too.
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How about a proper left wing that understands oppression and class analysis and how to find the fine line when rights conflict.
That has never existed in the USA. Most Americans don't even think class exists, or that unless you live on the street you are middle class, which is the pretty much the same as denying it.
Class doesn't just refer to economic class but to things like race and sex and whatnot
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The problem is that you guys cant read, because if you could you'd see that this thread is not about the crap you are trying to argue about right now.
Scg, pls ban jja and then ban yourself for off topic/spam. Thank you.
We don't know who's going to win the election, mofo.
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Trump also doesn't know who's going to win, but he's had rallies like never before in history.
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https://joeisdone.github.io/florida/
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Trump also doesn't know who's going to win, but he's had rallies like never before in history.
I listened to one of his rallies. Disgusting, demented and hate filled. No substance, no positivity, just a giant ego stroke for him.
Listened to a Biden rally. Way nicer, much more positive and hope for the future. Not stoking fear and hatred
Oh and I bet the people who attended weren't left out in the cold and dark with any requiring an ambulance!
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They are the bravest patriots of all!
Still, Trump must strike a balance. His covid rallies have killed 700 of his supporters so far. https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/11/02/stanford-study-links-trump-rallies-to-30000-covid-19-cases-700-deaths/
He has to be careful to hold enough rallies to boost his votes but not so many that he ends up killing more supporters than gaining new ones.
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Will Laura Loomer win? Or will she end up handcuffing herself to the Florida capitol building?
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https://joeisdone.github.io/florida/
Interesting. But I'm not sure it matches the official Florida Division of Election numbers:
(https://i.imgur.com/lbrEqfg.png)
https://countyballotfiles.floridados.gov/VoteByMailEarlyVotingReports/PublicStats
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The left did used to be more representative of the working class, but that was squashed. I don't know how it happened, but I kind of think it was the same time the word "liberal" became associated with communism. Our left started moving towards the right.
It happened when Republicans destroyed the unions. Regan is responsible for the lions share of it, but the GOP has been working to kill them off.
They managed to convince the working class to get rid of the only group that actually cared about them... themselves.
"Stop representing yourself!"
To be fair, unions are prone to corruption too.
To be fair, humans are prone to corruption.
So that's not really an argument, as EVERYTHING is prone to corruption.
Republicans attacked unions because they made it harder for the rich to keep getting richer at the expense of the working class, and they didn't like that.
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Romney is winning by a landslide.
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Joe Rogan has an election night livestream!
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I got to say, Fox News seems to have the best election tracker. It's more up to date than the others at this point.
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Wait. Where the hell is Alex Jones? I thought he was supposed to be on this stream.
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They've called Mitch McConnel as the winner. Expected but still disappointing.
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Wait. Where the hell is Alex Jones? I thought he was supposed to be on this stream.
I just saw a flat earther in the live chat!
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Amy Klobuchar is one to watch!
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Texas results are showing up and Biden is strong on the early tallies. That will be interesting to watch and see how it develops.
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Trump is now leading in Texas.
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Trump is now leading in Texas.
BAM, back to Biden! lol
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I'd be surprised if Biden took Texas. The rural parts tend to be counted later.
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As o whets everyone's feel on who might win? Will Trump win the night but postal votes change it later? Or are the postals being counted very quickly
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Too early to say. We might not know tonight. I don't think it's going to be a blowout for either side though.
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As o whets everyone's feel on who might win? Will Trump win the night but postal votes change it later? Or are the postals being counted very quickly
Pennsylvania has until Friday to count mail-in ballots that were postmarked by today.
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I don't think Texas is going to flip this election, to be clear. The interesting thing is to see how close it ends up being, and then to see whether that momentum can carry forward.
Crouton Country has just been called for Trump. The Mormons have spoken!
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I'm in California, I voted anyway.
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Yeah. I feel you. I'm in Utah so my vote doesn't matter either.
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Imperial Beach has initiative I on the ballot.
A 1 cent sales tax. Not 1%. One cent. Fucking morons. ::)
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"Trump" has 252 electoral votes now.
"Biden" has 240 electoral votes.
It all comes down to PA, 20 electoral votes, where Trump leads heavily (as per Biden's statement that he will eliminate fossil fuels).
Why the quotation marks? Trump, the real DT, has not appeared in public since 1989, while Biden (the real JB) has not been seen since 2017.
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"Trump" has 252 electoral votes now.
"Biden" has 240 electoral votes.
It all comes down to PA, 20 electoral votes, where Trump leads heavily (as per Biden's statement that he will eliminate fossil fuels).
Why the quotation marks? Trump, the real DT, has not appeared in public since 1989, while Biden (the real JB) has not been seen since 2017.
Wait, they're both hideous golems now? Where are the real ones?
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http://themillenniumreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/trump_then_now-2.jpg
Trump appeared in the 1980 famous interview, while "Trump" is interviewed by Oprah in 1988.
http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Screen-Shot-2020-08-19-at-6.18.59-PM.png
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I knew it.
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TRUMP!!!!!
BOOOOOM!!!!!
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TRUMP!!!!!
BOOOOOM!!!!!
Are you drunk sir?
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TRUMP!!!!!
BOOOOOM!!!!!
Are you drunk sir?
No, not yet. Does remove the point of the post
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TRUMP!!!!!
BOOOOOM!!!!!
Are you drunk sir?
No, not yet. Does remove the point of the post
Biden is on track to win. Now you can go and get drunk. LOL
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TRUMP!!!!!
BOOOOOM!!!!!
Are you drunk sir?
No, not yet. Does remove the point of the post
Biden is on track to win. Now you can go and get drunk. LOL
But what about Amy Klobuchar?
YOU TOLD US SHE WAS THE ONE TO WATCH!!! :P
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TRUMP!!!!!
BOOOOOM!!!!!
Are you drunk sir?
No, not yet. Does remove the point of the post
Biden is on track to win. Now you can go and get drunk. LOL
By what metrics besides hopes and dreams?
If I listened to mainstream I would have been asleep by ten with Biden the winner.
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TRUMP!!!!!
BOOOOOM!!!!!
Are you drunk sir?
No, not yet. Does remove the point of the post
Biden is on track to win. Now you can go and get drunk. LOL
By what metrics besides hopes and dreams?
If I listened to mainstream I would have been asleep by ten with Biden the winner.
Try counting up the numbers. See if there is any way Trump can get to 270. On the current trends it looks like he just falls short.
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TRUMP!!!!!
BOOOOOM!!!!!
Are you drunk sir?
No, not yet. Does remove the point of the post
Biden is on track to win. Now you can go and get drunk. LOL
By what metrics besides hopes and dreams?
If I listened to mainstream I would have been asleep by ten with Biden the winner.
Try counting up the numbers. See if there is any way Trump can get to 270. On the current trends it looks like he just falls short.
What current trends are you looking at? Georgia is certainly a question mark
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I checked the trends 20mins ago and trump was ahead bigly tbh.
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I checked the trends 20mins ago and trump was ahead bigly tbh.
It's rayzor.... That's all I have to say about that.
Though I will say georgia is a surprise
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I checked the trends 20mins ago and trump was ahead bigly tbh.
It's rayzor.... That's all I have to say about that.
Though I will say georgia is a surprise
If Biden takes GA and NC, He's up in NV and AZ, that puts him over the 270, doesn't even need Wisconsin Michigan or Pennyslvania.
On the other hand Trump needs either NC or GA, and he's just barely ahead before absentee ballots are counted. If he loses any of the Mid West there is no way he gets past 270.
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My observations.
This isn't over. No one has 270. We're waiting on 5 swing stats. Any two of them will give Biden the victory. There is reason to believe that that's the case as the mail in ballots are taking forever to count. There are reasons to believe Biden might win a few states because of the way the votes are counted. There is also a situation that completely doesn't match the polls. So who knows.
We likely won't know until at least tomorrow. Any president(not naming names) who tells yoou that "we won tonight" doesn't understand the electoral college.
Please stand down with that kazoo gentlemen.
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I will say that one thing that's a done deal is the senate looks like a bitter disappointment. Doubt we're taking that one.
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Well Trump has already claimed victory and wants the count to stop now
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In other news, Laura Loomer is getting her handcuffs polished and ready as she goes down in flames in Florida-21
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Well Trump has already claimed victory and wants the count to stop now
Yeah, so do I lol
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I checked the trends 20mins ago and trump was ahead bigly tbh.
It's rayzor.... That's all I have to say about that.
Though I will say georgia is a surprise
If Biden takes GA and NC, He's up in NV and AZ, that puts him over the 270, doesn't even need Wisconsin Michigan or Pennyslvania.
On the other hand Trump needs either NC or GA, and he's just barely ahead before absentee ballots are counted. If he loses any of the Mid West there is no way he gets past 270.
Where is this no way to victory you speak of for Trump? Or is that usual delusional thinking?
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My observations.
This isn't over. No one has 270. We're waiting on 5 swing stats. Any two of them will give Biden the victory. There is reason to believe that that's the case as the mail in ballots are taking forever to count. There are reasons to believe Biden might win a few states because of the way the votes are counted. There is also a situation that completely doesn't match the polls. So who knows.
We likely won't know until at least tomorrow. Any president(not naming names) who tells yoou that "we won tonight" doesn't understand the electoral college.
Please stand down with that kazoo gentlemen.
Why is it assumed that mail in ballots will all be for Biden? Unless that's the scan by Dems...
Even when ballots would come in from areas pro Biden, Trump faired well and the numbers stayed in his favor in the overall.
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My observations.
This isn't over. No one has 270. We're waiting on 5 swing stats. Any two of them will give Biden the victory. There is reason to believe that that's the case as the mail in ballots are taking forever to count. There are reasons to believe Biden might win a few states because of the way the votes are counted. There is also a situation that completely doesn't match the polls. So who knows.
We likely won't know until at least tomorrow. Any president(not naming names) who tells yoou that "we won tonight" doesn't understand the electoral college.
Please stand down with that kazoo gentlemen.
Why is it assumed that mail in ballots will all be for Biden? Unless that's the scan by Dems...
Even when ballots would come in from areas pro Biden, Trump faired well and the numbers stayed in his favor in the overall.
A few reasons.
In NC there's a technical issue holding up ballots in an urban district.
In Detroit something like 15% of the votes have been counted so far.
In Pennsylvania they were forbidden from counting early ballots and mail ballots until today. The in person voting got precedence. So you're what seeing is the effect of the republicans votes being counted first.
Trump could still win but that's the reason that not even Fox News has marked it as a win.
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By the way, this is why Trump has fought tooth and nail to get rid of mail in ballots and to make them late as possible by mangling the post office. And this is also why he has been demanding that the winner be called tonight.
It's a clever strategy to steal the election if it works.
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fucking hell America!
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"Trump" has already won.
DT - 255
JB - 246
Only two states left: NC and PA.
If DT wins NC, 255 + 16 = 271.
PA could go all the way to the SC.
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I checked the trends 20mins ago and trump was ahead bigly tbh.
It's rayzor.... That's all I have to say about that.
Though I will say georgia is a surprise
If Biden takes GA and NC, He's up in NV and AZ, that puts him over the 270, doesn't even need Wisconsin Michigan or Pennyslvania.
On the other hand Trump needs either NC or GA, and he's just barely ahead before absentee ballots are counted. If he loses any of the Mid West there is no way he gets past 270.
Where is this no way to victory you speak of for Trump? Or is that usual delusional thinking?
Ok, give us your predictions that support a Trump victory.
I
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fucking hell America!
Yeah. It's a fucking nightmare scenario. Even if Biden wins then he's going to spend the next few months dealing with all the lawsuits Trump can throw at him.
And to make things worse, the senate is almost certainly staying majority republican so absolutely nothing will get done.
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My observations.
This isn't over. No one has 270. We're waiting on 5 swing stats. Any two of them will give Biden the victory. There is reason to believe that that's the case as the mail in ballots are taking forever to count. There are reasons to believe Biden might win a few states because of the way the votes are counted. There is also a situation that completely doesn't match the polls. So who knows.
We likely won't know until at least tomorrow. Any president(not naming names) who tells yoou that "we won tonight" doesn't understand the electoral college.
Please stand down with that kazoo gentlemen.
Why is it assumed that mail in ballots will all be for Biden? Unless that's the scan by Dems...
Even when ballots would come in from areas pro Biden, Trump faired well and the numbers stayed in his favor in the overall.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/524404-trump-says-hell-go-to-supreme-court-to-stop-votes-from-being-counted
Trump "stop the counting in the states i'm winning".
Are you fucking kidding me? This is the guy you support?
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fucking hell America!
Yeah. It's a fucking nightmare scenario. Even if Biden wins then he's going to spend the next few months dealing with all the lawsuits Trump can throw at him.
And to make things worse, the senate is almost certainly staying majority republican so absolutely nothing will get done.
Same with the Dems if Trump wins...neither side will go quietly into the night which sucks.
As for "this is the guy I support".... Yes, I do because I know what Kamala will do and the far left which Kamala will pander to. They will shut the economy down again, play identity politics, raise taxes, put more regulations etc etc etc. They will do all they can to stifle those that try and give to those that don't.
Yes, Trump is a shit sandwich... However, Kamala and company is a shit sandwich supreme. So I go for getting shot in the foot instead of the head.
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Dude I won bro, just trust me, no need to count the rest
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I don't get it
I think everyone's vote deserves to be counted
If I voted for a party and they tried these dirty tactics, I'd be pissed. This is not free, fair or showcases the values of democracy.
Trump is no better than a thuggish dictator. Who the hell wants that in a leader?
And he has set the stage to be able to fire any civil servant who isn't a 'yes man' (eg Fauci). Anything that reports matters of truth he wants control of (like the CDC).
I wonder how history will remember these years. But then history is written by victors....Trumps 'patriotic history' plan in schools will ensure that just like other dictatorships (eg China), the history will be full of glowing repugnican party pandering BS). My wife found an entirely different version of history when she came to Australia for study lol
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fucking hell America!
Yeah. It's a fucking nightmare scenario. Even if Biden wins then he's going to spend the next few months dealing with all the lawsuits Trump can throw at him.
And to make things worse, the senate is almost certainly staying majority republican so absolutely nothing will get done.
Same with the Dems if Trump wins...neither side will go quietly into the night which sucks.
As for "this is the guy I support".... Yes, I do because I know what Kamala will do and the far left which Kamala will pander to. They will shut the economy down again, play identity politics, raise taxes, put more regulations etc etc etc. They will do all they can to stifle those that try and give to those that don't.
Yes, Trump is a shit sandwich... However, Kamala and company is a shit sandwich supreme. So I go for getting shot in the foot instead of the head.
Not sure Kamala will pander to the 'far left'. She is quite heartless coming from being a prosecuter who left a man in jail despite knowing there was a damn good chance he wasn't guilty. She also wanted parents of kids who skipped school jailed etc. Basically, she is not all that of a 'nice lady'. Her heart is not warm but cold and steeled. No way she'd pander to loopy lefties. She's right of centre judging by her past
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fucking hell America!
Yeah. It's a fucking nightmare scenario. Even if Biden wins then he's going to spend the next few months dealing with all the lawsuits Trump can throw at him.
And to make things worse, the senate is almost certainly staying majority republican so absolutely nothing will get done.
Same with the Dems if Trump wins...neither side will go quietly into the night which sucks.
As for "this is the guy I support".... Yes, I do because I know what Kamala will do and the far left which Kamala will pander to. They will shut the economy down again, play identity politics, raise taxes, put more regulations etc etc etc. They will do all they can to stifle those that try and give to those that don't.
Yes, Trump is a shit sandwich... However, Kamala and company is a shit sandwich supreme. So I go for getting shot in the foot instead of the head.
Let me make sure that you understood me. President Trump is attempting to steal this election. This is acceptable to you because Kamallah is a socialist monster?
You're happy to do away with free and fair elections when they don't support your candidate?
I just want some clarification about how optional you feel democracy is in this country.
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Its very worrying that people would want to get rid of democracy just so Trump can win.
But also I don't understand why postal ballots aren't counted yet, why don't you have the rule that postal ballots have to be in before the election so everything can be counted on the day/night?
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Fun fact about how much Trump cares about wrapping up elections tonight.
He's suing Nevada to keep their polls open into tomorrow. Nevada at the moment favors biden.
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Dictators don't need to be consistent
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Its very worrying that people would want to get rid of democracy just so Trump can win.
But also I don't understand why postal ballots aren't counted yet, why don't you have the rule that postal ballots have to be in before the election so everything can be counted on the day/night?
Because mail in ballots are typically done by democrats. So if they can nullify them then they can win the election easier.
Oh. You wanted the excuse that republicans use. Honestly their reason is more ridiculous than just saying the truth.
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fucking hell America!
Yeah. It's a fucking nightmare scenario. Even if Biden wins then he's going to spend the next few months dealing with all the lawsuits Trump can throw at him.
And to make things worse, the senate is almost certainly staying majority republican so absolutely nothing will get done.
Same with the Dems if Trump wins...neither side will go quietly into the night which sucks.
As for "this is the guy I support".... Yes, I do because I know what Kamala will do and the far left which Kamala will pander to. They will shut the economy down again, play identity politics, raise taxes, put more regulations etc etc etc. They will do all they can to stifle those that try and give to those that don't.
Yes, Trump is a shit sandwich... However, Kamala and company is a shit sandwich supreme. So I go for getting shot in the foot instead of the head.
Let me make sure that you understood me. President Trump is attempting to steal this election. This is acceptable to you because Kamallah is a socialist monster?
You're happy to do away with free and fair elections when they don't support your candidate?
I just want some clarification about how optional you feel democracy is in this country.
I get the feeling that after all this, the rest of the world will see democracy in the US as akin to Belarus's or those countries that Trump generously labelled "Shitholes".
Bom and the rest of idiot america, won't mind as they see the soft left of the country like Kamala as rampant communism without understanding anything about anything having only ever listened to Fox.
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Its very worrying that people would want to get rid of democracy just so Trump can win.
But also I don't understand why postal ballots aren't counted yet, why don't you have the rule that postal ballots have to be in before the election so everything can be counted on the day/night?
Because mail in ballots are typically done by democrats. So if they can nullify them then they can win the election easier.
Oh. You wanted the excuse that republicans use. Honestly their reason is more ridiculous than just saying the truth.
But why aren't they sent in much earlier? I mean apart from Trump trying to destroy the postal service, but in normal election times why isn't it that they go in much earlier?
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Its very worrying that people would want to get rid of democracy just so Trump can win.
But also I don't understand why postal ballots aren't counted yet, why don't you have the rule that postal ballots have to be in before the election so everything can be counted on the day/night?
Because mail in ballots are typically done by democrats. So if they can nullify them then they can win the election easier.
Oh. You wanted the excuse that republicans use. Honestly their reason is more ridiculous than just saying the truth.
But why aren't they sent in much earlier? I mean apart from Trump trying to destroy the postal service, but in normal election times why isn't it that they go in much earlier?
In Pennsylvania they're not allowed to count them until the day of the election. I think they also have to take a back seat to counting in person ballots.
To be honest I don't know if there's a legitimate reason for that or not.
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I wonder if Americas allies like Australia and in the EU will have the guts to say 'we don't recognise the American government as legitimate' the way we do with corrupt countries in Africa or Venezuela etc
Also how will international election monitors write up about this election? Americas always had a good record of being free and fair - now it can join the likes of getting a fail like Zimbabwe or Venezuela
But I doubt it. I know our PM wants Trump to be his BFF
If Trump wins on merit, fine (even though his campaign was built on lies and fear its ultimately what the people wanted) but even if he does win on merit, he's already tainted his win through his BS claims
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If Trump wins on merit, fine (even though his campaign was built on lies and fear its ultimately what the people wanted) but even if he does win on merit, he's already tainted his win through his BS claims
Are you serious?? That is all the left knows is lied and fear... Kettle meet pot
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Wisconsin just turned blue.
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If Biden wins any other state then he wins the presidency.
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Bom and the rest of idiot america, won't mind as they see the soft left of the country like Kamala as rampant communism without understanding anything about anything having only ever listened to Fox.
I love how you state such a thing without knowing a thing about me. Judge people an idiot for simply having a different opinion than yours ...Typical leftist do nothing passing judgement on others in their ivory tower hoping no one takes a glance.
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It is heartening to hear that many repugnicans including lawyers or fans of Trump are voicing their disgrace and distress at Trumps claims of a win already and that votes stop being counted
Nice to know that there are those in the party or ideals that still respect the process
I hope Trumps lawyers tell him he has no case to take to the supreme court (although I'm sure they'd love to be paid for the work in trying anyway)
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It is heartening to hear that many repugnicans including lawyers or fans of Trump are voicing their disgrace and distress at Trumps claims of a win already and that votes stop being counted
Nice to know that there are those in the party or ideals that still respect the process
I hope Trumps lawyers tell him he has no case to take to the supreme court (although I'm sure they'd love to be paid for the work in trying anyway)
People of sound mind don't want votes to not count. However, the reason Dems pushed so hard for the dumb ass mail in votes to count on the false premise of covid is that was their only shot to try and rig the election. Even the Dems here are pushing for the mail in votes and assuming they will be a majority blue votes.
Does that not seem odd to you...if the roles were reversed it would be reported everywhere as the republicans cheating and lawsuits everywhere.
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If Biden wins any other state then he wins the presidency.
That limits Trump's options considerably. If we call NV for Biden, which is looking almost certain, then any one of GA, NC, MI, PA will win it for Biden.
On the other hand Trump has to carry all of them, not sure if Maine-2 can be a tie breaker any more.
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Looks like Biden is close to taking the lead in Michigan. If Nevada holds, that's game over for Trump.
I still think Biden has a good chance of taking GA and NC.
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Looks like Biden is close to taking the lead in Michigan. If Nevada holds, that's game over for Trump.
I still think Biden has a good chance of taking GA and NC.
Betting agencies are putting Biden back as the favourite to win
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Trumps lead in Michigan is starting to vanish. He'll have to rig this if he wants to win this
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Looks like Biden is close to taking the lead in Michigan. If Nevada holds, that's game over for Trump.
I still think Biden has a good chance of taking GA and NC.
Betting agencies are putting Biden back as the favourite to win
Trump has gone to 3/1.
Biden is 1/4.
Definitely slipping away.
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Looks like Biden has bagged WI and looks good to take another. AZ too, MI probably with postal votes and PA? Probably going to Trump but who knows at this point. Biden seems confident about it
NC and GA most likely to Trump.
To think a few hours ago punters thought Trump had nailed it. A nail biting election that's for sure
Trumps only chance is to cheat now. He's been setting this up for months so no doubt he'll try. However the supreme court is going to have to make a partisan fool of itself if it deems millions of legally cast votes to be invalid just because a man baby said it's a terrible thing he can't declare victory on the night
Trump. From a Pent House to the White House going straight to the Big House... No wonder he's desperate to win at any cost
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A Biden presidency will mean that the collapse will take place faster (in order to blame it on Trump).
However, the overall strategy is to cause as much rage as possible. Obviously, something is very odd in WI where a seemingly insurmountable DT lead was erased with the help of tens of thousands of votes which were discovered just a few hours ago (all of them for JB).
Let us imagine now that Trump takes these matters (WI and MI fraudulent voting) to the Supreme Court and wins (the SC overturns the official figures in the presidential election). That's when a civil war will break out.
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The mail in voter fraud!!111
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It is heartening to hear that many repugnicans including lawyers or fans of Trump are voicing their disgrace and distress at Trumps claims of a win already and that votes stop being counted
Nice to know that there are those in the party or ideals that still respect the process
I hope Trumps lawyers tell him he has no case to take to the supreme court (although I'm sure they'd love to be paid for the work in trying anyway)
People of sound mind don't want votes to not count. However, the reason Dems pushed so hard for the dumb ass mail in votes to count on the false premise of covid is that was their only shot to try and rig the election. Even the Dems here are pushing for the mail in votes and assuming they will be a majority blue votes.
Does that not seem odd to you...if the roles were reversed it would be reported everywhere as the republicans cheating and lawsuits everywhere.
So it's fraudulent that everyone gets to vote?
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Biden is now leading MI!!!
Bye bye Trump?
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It is heartening to hear that many repugnicans including lawyers or fans of Trump are voicing their disgrace and distress at Trumps claims of a win already and that votes stop being counted
Nice to know that there are those in the party or ideals that still respect the process
I hope Trumps lawyers tell him he has no case to take to the supreme court (although I'm sure they'd love to be paid for the work in trying anyway)
Trump seems to think his lolsuits will go straight to the SC and bypass the lower courts. That isn't how it works.
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Biden is now leading MI!!!
Bye bye Trump?
If it holds yes. Hopefully a few more swing states go Biden. If it's 270 and the republicans only need to steal the election in one state to win then they may make an attempt to.
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Biden is now leading MI!!!
Bye bye Trump?
If it holds yes. Hopefully a few more swing states go Biden. If it's 270 and the republicans only need to steal the election in one state to win then they may make an attempt to.
It's not impossible for him to still flip PA with so many postal votes yet to be counted
It's still a tight race but I think barring any legal shenanigans by Trump, he's definitely done
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Biden is now leading MI!!!
Bye bye Trump?
If it holds yes. Hopefully a few more swing states go Biden. If it's 270 and the republicans only need to steal the election in one state to win then they may make an attempt to.
It's not impossible for him to still flip PA with so many postal votes yet to be counted
It's still a tight race but I think barring any legal shenanigans by Trump, he's definitely done
If what I'm hearing about what hasn't been counted in PA then Biden will most likely win that state. Which will be a much needed buffer for when trump tries to steal enough states to win.
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Looks like 64% of the votes in PA have been counted, so still a long way to go, and those remaining votes are expected to break in favor of Biden so it definitely seems like a state he can get back into the blue.
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I do sort of see merit in bom tishop's interesting electoral strategy of stopping the votes at the point where my side is winning. I just would have preferred they stopped the counting when we were winning in Texas and Florida. I suspect Bom would have objected to that idea though.
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I listened to some conservative talk radio on the way to work this morning and callers were surprised that their "big red wave" turned out to be more of a splash and that Trump isn't running away with a certain victory. I'm honestly a little surprised the senate won't be moving closer to 50/50.
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I listened to some conservative talk radio on the way to work this morning and callers were surprised that their "big red wave" turned out to be more of a splash and that Trump isn't running away with a certain victory. I'm honestly a little surprised the senate won't be moving closer to 50/50.
There is some counting left to be done there too. There still might be some surprises.
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As for the question regarding stopping the mail-in ballot counts on election day, it is all dependent on the state's election laws. Iirc, some states require the mail-in ballots be in the election office by election day, others allow for them to be post marked on election day as long as they arrive by a certain number of days following the election. You could argue which is the better way to handle it. Regardless, there is no reason the election HAS to be settled on election night, the day after, or even by the end of the week following election night. We have 2 months before the next president is sworn in and that gives us time to get this thing right.
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Your stock market is up this morning. S&P500 1.17% and the NASDAQ by 2.83%.
I guess they like the idea of Biden winning
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Biden is down to 1/6
Trump back to 1/4 after shortening a bit earlier.
Tell you what, maybe the bookies will effectively call this election when they decide to pay out >:D
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If Biden wins but the republicans keep the senate then congress might as well sit out the next 2 years. The only thing that's getting done is going to be through executive orders.
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If Biden wins but the republicans keep the senate then congress might as well sit out the next 2 years. The only thing that's getting done is going to be through executive orders.
Especially if another vacancy opens on the Supreme Court. We'll have to keep that open no matter how long in order for the voters to have a say in the next election.
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Biden has won Wisconsin apparantly
BREAKING Wisconsin Elections Commission Administrator says on @NBCNews: “All of the ballots have been counted.” Joe Biden has won Wisconsin by 20,697 votes.
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NBC isn't projecting it on their map yet. Do you have a link to that story?
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I am sure it's a fine time celebrating the Dems winning by cheating as expected. Guess they were jealous of russia and told them to hold their beer
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Though I am sure 101 percent of "voters" in WI can't be wrong.
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We all know the popular vote doesn't mean much, but still an interesting factoid: Biden is expected to end this with more votes than any other presidential candidate in US history
https://theweek.com/speedreads/947822/biden-now-projected-receive-more-votes-president-than-other-candidate-history
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That's democracy for you. If you don't like it then move to Russia.
BTW the counting isn't over yet.
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NBC isn't projecting it on their map yet. Do you have a link to that story?
On the Twitter for whatever that's worth
https://twitter.com/NBCNews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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I live in PA, so I have to wait for my vote to be counted.
Unless Trump gets his way and they just throw it out, because... that's how Republicans win elections, throwing away Democratic votes.
Once all the absentee ballots are counted, it's going to be very close here. Hopefully Biden gets NV, WI and MI so PA won't even matter. We won't know about NV until tomorrow but the other two should be settled today.
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Though I am sure 101 percent of "voters" in WI can't be wrong.
Wisconsin allows registration at time of voting.
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fucking hell America!
Yeah. It's a fucking nightmare scenario. Even if Biden wins then he's going to spend the next few months dealing with all the lawsuits Trump can throw at him.
And to make things worse, the senate is almost certainly staying majority republican so absolutely nothing will get done.
Same with the Dems if Trump wins...neither side will go quietly into the night which sucks.
As for "this is the guy I support".... Yes, I do because I know what Kamala will do and the far left which Kamala will pander to. They will shut the economy down again, play identity politics, raise taxes, put more regulations etc etc etc. They will do all they can to stifle those that try and give to those that don't.
Yes, Trump is a shit sandwich... However, Kamala and company is a shit sandwich supreme. So I go for getting shot in the foot instead of the head.
Actually, biden has said he'll accept the outcome of the election either way.
Unlike trump, who is such a bad loser.
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It is heartening to hear that many repugnicans including lawyers or fans of Trump are voicing their disgrace and distress at Trumps claims of a win already and that votes stop being counted
Nice to know that there are those in the party or ideals that still respect the process
I hope Trumps lawyers tell him he has no case to take to the supreme court (although I'm sure they'd love to be paid for the work in trying anyway)
People of sound mind don't want votes to not count. However, the reason Dems pushed so hard for the dumb ass mail in votes to count on the false premise of covid is that was their only shot to try and rig the election. Even the Dems here are pushing for the mail in votes and assuming they will be a majority blue votes.
Does that not seem odd to you...if the roles were reversed it would be reported everywhere as the republicans cheating and lawsuits everywhere.
Yeah very odd, bom, why would people want to vote per mail during a pandemic with 200k+ dead people? Very weird!
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I am sure it's a fine time celebrating the Dems winning by cheating as expected. Guess they were jealous of russia and told them to hold their beer
Dont be such a sore loser. Your candidate was shit and the people acted accordingly. Deal with it, thats democarcy, bitch!
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I am sure it's a fine time celebrating the Dems winning by cheating as expected.
Which cheating is that then Bom? Details and evidence, otherwise it's your usual hot air.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/2020-presidential-election-postal-data-shows-ballot-delivery-rate.html
The Postal Service on Election Day failed to deliver a significant percentage of mail-in ballots to several states that could determine who wins the presidential contest between President Donald Trump and Joe Biden, a court filing revealed Wednesday.
The delivery rate is certain to be a key issue at a federal court hearing in Washington scheduled for noon ET Wednesday in a case where a judge has ordered the Postal Service to sweep its facilities for remaining mail-in ballots.
The states seeing relatively poor levels of mail deliveries of ballots include Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina and Wisconsin, all of which have yet to declare victors in their tallies for Trump and Biden.
The current vote tallies in those states show thin margins between the two candidates. The outcomes in those states could hinge on the mailed-in ballots.
Who's surprised?
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Trump won Ohio and Texas. Did he not claim massive fraud was happening there. He won them. Like when 50,000 mail in votes were posted with an incorrect return address or something
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/election-2020/ohio-county-says-nearly-50-000-voters-received-wrong-ballots
He still won the state. Convincingly. so I dont see the problem with the system. Or is it only cheating if someone votes democrat? Not allowed!
Interestingly, Trump has won Ohio and that is a state which for decades has predicted the outcome of the election. He won Florida too. Yet he may not win the presidency afterall
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I am sure it's a fine time celebrating the Dems winning by cheating as expected.
Which cheating is that then Bom? Details and evidence, otherwise it's your usual hot air.
This.
Like how do you jump to 'cheating' as soon as your candidate is losing? I know you love Trump but come on, have some objectivity.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/2020-presidential-election-postal-data-shows-ballot-delivery-rate.html
The Postal Service on Election Day failed to deliver a significant percentage of mail-in ballots to several states that could determine who wins the presidential contest between President Donald Trump and Joe Biden, a court filing revealed Wednesday.
The delivery rate is certain to be a key issue at a federal court hearing in Washington scheduled for noon ET Wednesday in a case where a judge has ordered the Postal Service to sweep its facilities for remaining mail-in ballots.
The states seeing relatively poor levels of mail deliveries of ballots include Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina and Wisconsin, all of which have yet to declare victors in their tallies for Trump and Biden.
The current vote tallies in those states show thin margins between the two candidates. The outcomes in those states could hinge on the mailed-in ballots.
Who's surprised?
Now that's a clear attempt in trying to skew a result. Pretty Transparent from Trump. I suppose he laid the groundwork for this a while back
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Oh I figured this would be the answer... WE WON!! (Since this site is all liberal except a couple people)
Celebrate, no problem. Yall have no room to talk about Russia or anything of the sort. Hopefully my cheater is better than yours in the long run.
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Oh I figured this would be the answer... WE WON!! (Since this site is all liberal except a couple people)
Celebrate, no problem. Yall have no room to talk about Russia or anything of the sort. Hopefully my cheater is better than yours in the long run.
Are you jerkface? Why are you so obsessed with russia?
Your candidate sucks and thus lost. Deal with reality, mate.
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Trump can still clinch this. He's doing his damndest to make sure only votes counted on election night are counted. He's also taking the issue of postal votes all the way to the federal supreme court (who cares about the state courts) to invalidate that style of voting despite it being a long held standard practice for American elections. If that doesn't work he's made sure the postal service is crippled in being able to deliver them on time.
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Oh I figured this would be the answer... WE WON!! (Since this site is all liberal except a couple people)
Celebrate, no problem. Yall have no room to talk about Russia or anything of the sort. Hopefully my cheater is better than yours in the long run.
Butt hurt much?
What is it you conservatives said 4 years ago? You lost, suck it up snowflakes.
*Note - Trump hasn't lost yet but he did claim victory already so consider that for a moment.
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Oh I figured this would be the answer... WE WON!! (Since this site is all liberal except a couple people)
Celebrate, no problem. Yall have no room to talk about Russia or anything of the sort. Hopefully my cheater is better than yours in the long run.
Hey, you should be happy to know that there's plenty of liberal tears over the fact that the Dems did not flip the Senate! Also, the Dems are already looking for who to blame for the fact that Biden did not win in a landslide!
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Oh I figured this would be the answer... WE WON!! (Since this site is all liberal except a couple people)
Celebrate, no problem. Yall have no room to talk about Russia or anything of the sort. Hopefully my cheater is better than yours in the long run.
As ever, you are all hat no cattle. You whine about cheating but when asked for evidence you just slink off.
Par for the course.
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Oh I figured this would be the answer... WE WON!! (Since this site is all liberal except a couple people)
Celebrate, no problem. Yall have no room to talk about Russia or anything of the sort. Hopefully my cheater is better than yours in the long run.
Hey, you should be happy to know that there's plenty of liberal tears over the fact that the Dems did not flip the Senate! Also, the Dems are already looking for who to blame for the fact that Biden did not win in a landslide!
Yeah, and if the Dems hadn't put forward a 158 year old hair sniffer, they would have won by a landslide.
Trump should be thankful they can't put a more inspiring candidate up. Twice now.
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Oh I figured this would be the answer... WE WON!! (Since this site is all liberal except a couple people)
Celebrate, no problem. Yall have no room to talk about Russia or anything of the sort. Hopefully my cheater is better than yours in the long run.
Hey, you should be happy to know that there's plenty of liberal tears over the fact that the Dems did not flip the Senate! Also, the Dems are already looking for who to blame for the fact that Biden did not win in a landslide!
The blame for not winning in a landslide goes to the Democrats who picked Biden to run for President instead of someone who could get us excited.
I'm happy he is looking likely to win, but he certainly doesn't have me hoping that he's going to push for progressive goals or feel like he really understands what the country is now.
He's... ok. He's solid establishment. Not anything for me to get excited over.
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Oh I figured this would be the answer... WE WON!! (Since this site is all liberal except a couple people)
Celebrate, no problem. Yall have no room to talk about Russia or anything of the sort. Hopefully my cheater is better than yours in the long run.
Hey, you should be happy to know that there's plenty of liberal tears over the fact that the Dems did not flip the Senate! Also, the Dems are already looking for who to blame for the fact that Biden did not win in a landslide!
Yeah, and if the Dems hadn't put forward a 158 year old hair sniffer, they would have won by a landslide.
Trump should be thankful they can't put a more inspiring candidate up. Twice now.
Glenn Greenwald had this to say about the situation. (I find him a bit annoying, but I agree with him about this) https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1324004211995103232?s=20
You have an incumbent President with a massive recession, an unemployment, rent and foreclosure crisis, and an out-of-control pandemic, and this is what the Democrats are able to do with it.
When will the time time come when self-critique of Dem ideology will be warranted??
This tweet is in response to this article https://thehill.com/homenews/house/524439-house-democrats-fall-way-short-in-disappointing-night
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Not anything for me to get excited over.
I guess we'll have to wait 12 years before 'The Rock' will contest now. I'd be excited to see that
But if you want an exciting candidate sooner, Kanye wants to run again in 2024 lol
Personally, America could do with a boring politician as President for now after the addled mania of the Trump era
It's still too close to call for sure though. And you still have Trumps pre planned rigging to contend with given some of these races may be close. So you never know. You might have another 4 years of Trump yet.....
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It's still too close to call for sure though. And you still have Trumps pre planned rigging to contend with given some of these races may be close. So you never know. You might have another 4 years of Trump yet.....
If Trump gets the Supreme Court to throw out my vote and anoint him King, I won't have to put up with him for 4 years. I'll pack up and head out at that point.
If my vote literally doesn't count, what's the point of staying? Trump and his folk can run the country into the ground and I'll watch it burn from afar.
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Glenn Greenwald had this to say about the situation. (I find him a bit annoying, but I agree with him about this) https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1324004211995103232?s=20
You have an incumbent President with a massive recession, an unemployment, rent and foreclosure crisis, and an out-of-control pandemic, and this is what the Democrats are able to do with it.
When will the time time come when self-critique of Dem ideology will be warranted??
This tweet is in response to this article https://thehill.com/homenews/house/524439-house-democrats-fall-way-short-in-disappointing-night
Personally, I'd say it's more of an indictment on the American voting public. How they can still vote for a guy guilty of all that (and everything else about his personal life and conduct). Not to mention how easily they are conned into believing his BS lies.
In Australia, we'd demand our PM resign if he acted or talked like Trump even for 1 day. Yet you guys have given him a free pass and a tick of approval by the millions to 'lead' you again after 4 years of this nonsense for another 4 years. What's wrong with you? lol
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Glenn Greenwald had this to say about the situation. (I find him a bit annoying, but I agree with him about this) https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1324004211995103232?s=20
You have an incumbent President with a massive recession, an unemployment, rent and foreclosure crisis, and an out-of-control pandemic, and this is what the Democrats are able to do with it.
When will the time time come when self-critique of Dem ideology will be warranted??
This tweet is in response to this article https://thehill.com/homenews/house/524439-house-democrats-fall-way-short-in-disappointing-night
Personally, I'd say it's more of an indictment on the American voting public. How they can still vote for a guy guilty of all that (and everything else about his personal life and conduct). Not to mention how easily they are conned into believing his BS lies.
In Australia, we'd demand our PM resign if he acted or talked like Trump even for 1 day. Yet you guys have given him a free pass and a tick of approval by the millions to 'lead' you again after 4 years of this nonsense for another 4 years. What's wrong with you? lol
I figured it out. Its because he can't be replaced until the next election (barring impeachment of course). So kicking him out is a terrible idea.
With parliaments, you can swap leaders every damn year. Its cool, same party so its fine.
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Oh I figured this would be the answer... WE WON!! (Since this site is all liberal except a couple people)
Celebrate, no problem. Yall have no room to talk about Russia or anything of the sort. Hopefully my cheater is better than yours in the long run.
Hey, you should be happy to know that there's plenty of liberal tears over the fact that the Dems did not flip the Senate! Also, the Dems are already looking for who to blame for the fact that Biden did not win in a landslide!
Yeah, and if the Dems hadn't put forward a 158 year old hair sniffer, they would have won by a landslide.
Trump should be thankful they can't put a more inspiring candidate up. Twice now.
Glenn Greenwald had this to say about the situation. (I find him a bit annoying, but I agree with him about this) https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1324004211995103232?s=20
You have an incumbent President with a massive recession, an unemployment, rent and foreclosure crisis, and an out-of-control pandemic, and this is what the Democrats are able to do with it.
When will the time time come when self-critique of Dem ideology will be warranted??
This tweet is in response to this article https://thehill.com/homenews/house/524439-house-democrats-fall-way-short-in-disappointing-night
Indeed. Even if Trump loses, which seems likely, this is not a cause for celebration. We've got an obvious criminal clown for a president who, if it weren't for a pandemic, would have easily run reelection. WTF is wrong with us? This shouldn't even be close.
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Glenn Greenwald had this to say about the situation. (I find him a bit annoying, but I agree with him about this) https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1324004211995103232?s=20
You have an incumbent President with a massive recession, an unemployment, rent and foreclosure crisis, and an out-of-control pandemic, and this is what the Democrats are able to do with it.
When will the time time come when self-critique of Dem ideology will be warranted??
This tweet is in response to this article https://thehill.com/homenews/house/524439-house-democrats-fall-way-short-in-disappointing-night
Personally, I'd say it's more of an indictment on the American voting public. How they can still vote for a guy guilty of all that (and everything else about his personal life and conduct). Not to mention how easily they are conned into believing his BS lies.
In Australia, we'd demand our PM resign if he acted or talked like Trump even for 1 day. Yet you guys have given him a free pass and a tick of approval by the millions to 'lead' you again after 4 years of this nonsense for another 4 years. What's wrong with you? lol
Fear. I have talked to Trump supporters who were in TEARS because they think Biden is going to let Mexicans across the border to rape them. Not exaggerating, actually crying.
They are seriously, honestly afraid of terrorists and gays and minorities that are going to 'get them' and 'destroy America' and they only feel safe with a big, powerful, strong man who can stand there and protect them.
Trump attracts betas who need an alpha to protect and lead them.
And the rest are just mean assholes who will vote for anyone who makes 'libs cry' which is pretty ironic.
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It's still too close to call for sure though. And you still have Trumps pre planned rigging to contend with given some of these races may be close. So you never know. You might have another 4 years of Trump yet.....
If Trump gets the Supreme Court to throw out my vote and anoint him King, I won't have to put up with him for 4 years. I'll pack up and head out at that point.
If my vote literally doesn't count, what's the point of staying? Trump and his folk can run the country into the ground and I'll watch it burn from afar.
Everyone worried about the Supreme Court making Trump God Emperor should calm down. John Roberts and Clarence Thompson are true believers in the constitution. Alito has written some questionable opinions, but nothing he's ever said or done makes me think he isn't also a believer in the constitution. So that's three of the conservative judges who I do not think would be willing to turn their backs on our countries holy text.
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It's still too close to call for sure though. And you still have Trumps pre planned rigging to contend with given some of these races may be close. So you never know. You might have another 4 years of Trump yet.....
If Trump gets the Supreme Court to throw out my vote and anoint him King, I won't have to put up with him for 4 years. I'll pack up and head out at that point.
If my vote literally doesn't count, what's the point of staying? Trump and his folk can run the country into the ground and I'll watch it burn from afar.
Everyone worried about the Supreme Court making Trump God Emperor should calm down. John Roberts and Clarence Thompson are true believers in the constitution. Alito has written some questionable opinions, but nothing he's ever said or done makes me think he isn't also a believer in the constitution. So that's three of the conservative judges who I do not think would be willing to turn their backs on our countries holy text.
They sit there for life regardless anyway. There's nothing in it for them to turn into obvious partisan hacks and destroy their reputations.
I wonder how Amy Barrett would go. She was clearly rushed for this very reason but then....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/amy-coney-barrett-bush-gore/2020/10/10/594641b8-09e3-11eb-991c-be6ead8c4018_story.html
After county officials allowed the GOP to take the forms back and fill in the missing information, a Democratic voter sued, saying ballots cast by those voters should be tossed out. The county canvassing board, the Florida Republican Party and the Bush campaign argued that the votes should still count.
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Barrett’s work on the case serves as a reminder of how aggressively the Republican Party has sought to harness mail voting for years, in contrast to President Trump’s relentless attacks on the practice.
How times have changed lol
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Oh I figured this would be the answer... WE WON!! (Since this site is all liberal except a couple people)
Celebrate, no problem. Yall have no room to talk about Russia or anything of the sort. Hopefully my cheater is better than yours in the long run.
Butt hurt much?
What is it you conservatives said 4 years ago? You lost, suck it up snowflakes.
*Note - Trump hasn't lost yet but he did claim victory already so consider that for a moment.
If we won by cheating I would not say that.
It's ok, I expect no form of reasonable/rational/honest thought from any of you on this. Just further shows the true character of liberals.
You are trying to win by cheating, now I am rooting for Trump to cheat better.
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It is heartening to hear that many repugnicans including lawyers or fans of Trump are voicing their disgrace and distress at Trumps claims of a win already and that votes stop being counted
Nice to know that there are those in the party or ideals that still respect the process
I hope Trumps lawyers tell him he has no case to take to the supreme court (although I'm sure they'd love to be paid for the work in trying anyway)
People of sound mind don't want votes to not count. However, the reason Dems pushed so hard for the dumb ass mail in votes to count on the false premise of covid is that was their only shot to try and rig the election. Even the Dems here are pushing for the mail in votes and assuming they will be a majority blue votes.
Does that not seem odd to you...if the roles were reversed it would be reported everywhere as the republicans cheating and lawsuits everywhere.
It’s not that odd considering that the Dems have been telling people that postal voting is perfectly acceptable, especially during a pandemic (True). While Trump has been telling his supporters that postal votes don’t count (Lie).
Seems fairly obvious which side is most likely to have the most postal votes.
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Oh I figured this would be the answer... WE WON!! (Since this site is all liberal except a couple people)
Celebrate, no problem. Yall have no room to talk about Russia or anything of the sort. Hopefully my cheater is better than yours in the long run.
Butt hurt much?
What is it you conservatives said 4 years ago? You lost, suck it up snowflakes.
*Note - Trump hasn't lost yet but he did claim victory already so consider that for a moment.
If we won by cheating I would not say that.
It's ok, I expect no form of reasonable/rational/honest thought from any of you on this. Just further shows the true character of liberals.
You are trying to win by cheating, now I am rooting for Trump to cheat better.
I lOsT tHuS yoU haVE bEen ChEatinG
Classic 5 year old logic!
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Trump is demanding a recount for Wisconsin despite losing by over 21,000 votes. As it's within 1% of the vote he can do that but he knows it wont flip the state back to red. The last few recounts done in that state changed by a few hundred votes at most. A recount that changes the vote by more than 21,000? Yeah right
He just wants to waste as much time as possible on that one. I can see him demanding recounts for ones like MI if he loses that as well. He'll take anything at this point
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Oh I figured this would be the answer... WE WON!! (Since this site is all liberal except a couple people)
Celebrate, no problem. Yall have no room to talk about Russia or anything of the sort. Hopefully my cheater is better than yours in the long run.
Butt hurt much?
What is it you conservatives said 4 years ago? You lost, suck it up snowflakes.
*Note - Trump hasn't lost yet but he did claim victory already so consider that for a moment.
If we won by cheating I would not say that.
It's ok, I expect no form of reasonable/rational/honest thought from any of you on this. Just further shows the true character of liberals.
You are trying to win by cheating, now I am rooting for Trump to cheat better.
Yes, how bad of us Democrats to... you know... vote. I assume that's what you mean by cheating since you won't mention specifics.
I know you think Trump should be declared emperor for life and thus voting is 'cheating' but get over yourself. Not like he's going to even live to another term, COVID didn't do him any favors, he already sounds like he's going to drop dead at any moment.
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If Trump wins every state he's leading in currently and Biden wins everything he's leading in it will be 270 to Biden and 268 to Trump.
You are going to be the 'Divided States of America'. Biden better take home MI and PA to at least make it look like the public mostly backs him. Otherwise with an electoral college vote so close, the loser is going to be mighty pissed.
Proud Boys standing by!
Waiting for the riots and chants against Biden of 'Not My President!'
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https://www.thatsnonsense.com/did-joe-biden-receive-100-of-a-mail-in-ballot-dump-in-michigan-fact-check/
The real story behind it.
However the claim is false. And here is why.
Firstly, the graphics that show the apparently “magical” increase in votes for Biden (while other candidates did not increase their votes at all) is not from any official vote count from the state of Michigan. In fact they come from a third party company called Decision Desk HQ who operate their own real time electoral map graphics based on information released by electoral authorities from each state.
Secondly, and most importantly, the sudden increase in votes apparently offered to Biden wasn’t an increase at all, rather it was a DECREASE in votes. This happened after Decision Desk HQ made a typo when updating their electoral map (adding an extra zero after the intended number in a particular Michigan county) and then subsequently correcting their mistake, resulting in a large drop of votes for Biden. The two screenshots showing the disparity were then reversed to make it appear Biden had been afforded a “suspicious” increase in votes when the other candidates received no such increase at all.
More on the website
Essentially, its Trump promoting what he knows to be 'fake news' once again
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https://www.thatsnonsense.com/did-joe-biden-receive-100-of-a-mail-in-ballot-dump-in-michigan-fact-check/
The real story behind it.
However the claim is false. And here is why.
Firstly, the graphics that show the apparently “magical” increase in votes for Biden (while other candidates did not increase their votes at all) is not from any official vote count from the state of Michigan. In fact they come from a third party company called Decision Desk HQ who operate their own real time electoral map graphics based on information released by electoral authorities from each state.
Secondly, and most importantly, the sudden increase in votes apparently offered to Biden wasn’t an increase at all, rather it was a DECREASE in votes. This happened after Decision Desk HQ made a typo when updating their electoral map (adding an extra zero after the intended number in a particular Michigan county) and then subsequently correcting their mistake, resulting in a large drop of votes for Biden. The two screenshots showing the disparity were then reversed to make it appear Biden had been afforded a “suspicious” increase in votes when the other candidates received no such increase at all.
More on the website
Essentially, its Trump promoting what he knows to be 'fake news' once again
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Trump is demanding a recount for Wisconsin despite losing by over 21,000 votes. As it's within 1% of the vote he can do that but he knows it wont flip the state back to red. The last few recounts done in that state changed by a few hundred votes at most. A recount that changes the vote by more than 21,000? Yeah right
He just wants to waste as much time as possible on that one. I can see him demanding recounts for ones like MI if he loses that as well. He'll take anything at this point
It's probably just noise but whatever. That's part of the process.
I saw on the news that they can't actually request a recount until 10 days after the votes are certified which is December 10.
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Okay so Sandy and bom both believe the election was stolen. Compelling but I think i'll wait for wise's input before I decide.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/trump-sues-to-stop-michigan-ballot-count-demanding-access-to-tally-sites.html
Trump has sued to stop the counting in Michigan lol
President Donald Trump’s campaign said Wednesday that it had filed a lawsuit seeking to halt the counting of election ballots in Michigan as it seeks to get what it called “meaninful access” to watch the tallying process at numerous counting locations.
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Wisconsin is officially called now. LET THE RECOUNTING COMMENCE!
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Lincoln Project has another livestream going.
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Oh I figured this would be the answer... WE WON!! (Since this site is all liberal except a couple people)
Celebrate, no problem. Yall have no room to talk about Russia or anything of the sort. Hopefully my cheater is better than yours in the long run.
Butt hurt much?
What is it you conservatives said 4 years ago? You lost, suck it up snowflakes.
*Note - Trump hasn't lost yet but he did claim victory already so consider that for a moment.
If we won by cheating I would not say that.
It's ok, I expect no form of reasonable/rational/honest thought from any of you on this. Just further shows the true character of liberals.
You are trying to win by cheating, now I am rooting for Trump to cheat better.
Well, Trump did say the 2016 election was rigged ssooo..... Maybe ya did?
But seriously, lay out your case. Can you tell me what makes you think dems are cheating, how they are doing it, and the evidence you have thus far collected?
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Trump is demanding a recount for Wisconsin despite losing by over 21,000 votes.
So Trump was all about stopping the counting at midnight, but now he wants a recount? ???
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Trump is demanding a recount for Wisconsin despite losing by over 21,000 votes.
So Trump was all about stopping the counting at midnight, but now he wants a recount? ???
Trump doesn't need to make sense, I mean... you have seen him give speeches. His followers clearly just like the sounds his mouth makes as he can't pout together a coherent sentence at the best of times.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1323625920595451904?s=20
To be honest, this shit isn't funny (Don Jr posting an electoral map of the whole red almost in red).
What a tool
No wonder people associate this trash family with Nazis.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1323625920595451904?s=20
To be honest, this shit isn't funny (Don Jr posting an electoral map of the whole red almost in red).
What a tool
No wonder people associate this trash family with Nazis.
Did... did he just color everything on a world map red in MS Paint except some random areas he doesn't like in Blue?
That's... thats like 5 year old level.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1323625920595451904?s=20
To be honest, this shit isn't funny (Don Jr posting an electoral map of the whole red almost in red).
What a tool
No wonder people associate this trash family with Nazis.
Did... did he just color everything on a world map red in MS Paint except some random areas he doesn't like in Blue?
That's... thats like 5 year old level.
Most likely a couple of rails of Columbian blue flake cocaine talking there.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/trump-sues-to-stop-michigan-ballot-count-demanding-access-to-tally-sites.html
Oh this is just sad. There's webcams where everyone can watch the ballot counting.
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Trump is sending Rudy to PA
Go get them Rudy!!!
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Trump is sending Rudy to PA
Go get them Rudy!!!
"Mmmm yeah. You like counting? I like counting. I like watching you count. Mmmm yeahhh..."
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Biden is now ahead in MI by 30K and is projected to win it (by CNN)
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Biden is now ahead in MI by 30K and is projected to win it (by CNN)
Fox shows Biden up by more like 60k with 99% reporting, but they still won't call it. I don't think Trump can make up 60k votes with only 1% of the votes remaining, even if every single one is for him.
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Trump is sending Rudy to PA
Go get them Rudy!!!
"Mmmm yeah. You like counting? I like counting. I like watching you count. Mmmm yeahhh..."
Apparently he didn't even make it to the polling station. Some hot Russian lady leaned out out of an Uber and said "Hey darlink, why don't you get in here. We go party, da? Let me just tuck that shirt in...here let me take that briefcase, darlink..."
He hasn't been seen since.
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Interestingly, to go back to the MI thing for a sec, GA has a very similar pool of voters in terms of quantities. And they are at 96% reporting. Trump is up by about 70k votes. But that 4% figure is all missing from a very blue section of the state around Atlanta, so GA might in fact be more in play for Biden than MI is for Trump right now.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1323625920595451904?s=20
To be honest, this shit isn't funny (Don Jr posting an electoral map of the whole red almost in red).
What a tool
No wonder people associate this trash family with Nazis.
Did... did he just color everything on a world map red in MS Paint except some random areas he doesn't like in Blue?
That's... thats like 5 year old level.
Oh that's just facinating. Lets see who he thinks 'the enemy' is.
California.
New York.
Mexico.
Cuba.
China.
India.
Oh, and Liberia.
That's so strange.
It's up there with Trump drawing on a map with his Sharpie to prove he was right all along.
Do Trump supporters really see this stuff and clap and cheer like morons? Idiots.
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Interestingly, to go back to the MI thing for a sec, GA has a very similar pool of voters in terms of quantities. And they are at 96% reporting. Trump is up by about 70k votes. But that 4% figure is all missing from a very blue section of the state around Atlanta, so GA might in fact be more in play for Biden than MI is for Trump right now.
That 4% figure is all "missing" from a section where cheaters will make every vote go for Biden.
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If Biden takes Michigan and then takes Nevada and Arizona, if I got the math right, that's 270 on the nose. Am I high?
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Interestingly, to go back to the MI thing for a sec, GA has a very similar pool of voters in terms of quantities. And they are at 96% reporting. Trump is up by about 70k votes. But that 4% figure is all missing from a very blue section of the state around Atlanta, so GA might in fact be more in play for Biden than MI is for Trump right now.
Yeah, the devil is in the details, when he's not running airlines. :P
It's really hard to judge, because while Biden is up by 71 points in Clayton county, all the remaining 20% of the votes to be counted are going to be in person votes. And those don't pull as hard to Biden, and might even go Trump if enough Democrats voted by mail. I can't find enough information on the breakdown to do more than just guess at this point.
I expect the gap will close, but how much... no idea. 70k is still a big gap at this point, but with 350k votes to count, anything is possible. The remaining votes would have to go 245k for Biden and 105k for Trump to flip it. Almost three to one, that's going to be tough.
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If Biden takes Michigan and then takes Nevada and Arizona, if I got the math right, that's 270 on the nose. Am I high?
That's exactly right, I've been looking at that path since this morning. We will know how Arizona falls tonight at 9. Nevada will wait until tomorrow afternoon.
If that doesn't settle it, it's down to PA and that will take all week. Gap is closing in PA... down to 300k votes now, from 700k this morning.
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Whew. Giuliani is on the case. I was worried that trump might have sent a moron.
This is just glorious to listen to.
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If Biden takes Michigan and then takes Nevada and Arizona, if I got the math right, that's 270 on the nose. Am I high?
That's exactly right, I've been looking at that path since this morning. We will know how Arizona falls tonight at 9. Nevada will wait until tomorrow afternoon.
If that doesn't settle it, it's down to PA and that will take all week. Gap is closing in PA... down to 300k votes now, from 700k this morning.
Looking at the trends it's not impossible that Biden could take home all the remaining swing states. I doubt it, but it is possible
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Trump will take Georgia and North Carolina for sure, and will probably take Pennsylvania. Biden will probably get Michigan and the election will come down to Nevada.
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Interestingly, to go back to the MI thing for a sec, GA has a very similar pool of voters in terms of quantities. And they are at 96% reporting. Trump is up by about 70k votes. But that 4% figure is all missing from a very blue section of the state around Atlanta, so GA might in fact be more in play for Biden than MI is for Trump right now.
Yeah, the devil is in the details, when he's not running airlines. :P
There's a Devil Went Down to Georgia joke here. Also, Fulton county is the one to watch. That's where almost (or all now?) all the votes are at and it's very very slanted toward Biden.
Edit to add: Fulton is where they had the pipe burst, so these are absentee ballots that need counting still I think.
https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-news/fulton-election-results-delayed-after-pipe-bursts-in-room-with-ballots/4T3KPQV7PBEX3JVAIGJBNBSVJY/
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Well if Biden wins I hope he says in his victory speech
"it's time to make America great again!"
Ultimate troll lol
But at least he'd be right
America was already great before Trump frigged it up.
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Well if Biden wins I hope he says in his victory speech
"it's time to make America great again!"
Ultimate troll lol
But at least he'd be right
America was already great before Trump frigged it up.
Uhhh...
No.
This is the ultimate troll line to open with...
"You're fired."
8)
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Well if Biden wins I hope he says in his victory speech
"it's time to make America great again!"
Ultimate troll lol
But at least he'd be right
America was already great before Trump frigged it up.
Uhhh...
No.
This is the ultimate troll line to open with...
"You're fired."
8)
I agree but I think the passive aggressive MAGA would work better politically. If Biden said to Trump he's fired it would make him sound immature (no different to Trump) and be like throwing gasoline on a raging fire to the triggered snowflake Trumpists.
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Biden wins Michigan
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/524343-biden-wins-battleground-michigan
In other Michigan news, Trump's troops listened to the stand by order and marched to try to stop the vote counting.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/524532-stop-the-count-protesters-push-toward-door-of-detroit-ballot-counting
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And the Trump tantrum continues.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/trump-sues-to-stop-michigan-ballot-count-demanding-access-to-tally-sites.html
"Trump campaign says it is suing to stop Michigan and Pennsylvania ballot counts"
Yeah, anything to stop people from voting. Then his campaign says this which makes me LOL.
“President Trump is committed to ensuring that all legal votes are counted in Michigan and everywhere else.”
Stop all the countin!
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We should let Jared Kushner run the vote counts in PA and MI. He did well stealing PPE from the states, time to let him shine by letting him steal votes from the states too!
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Also Trump on twitter
We have claimed, for Electoral Vote purposes, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (which won’t allow legal observers) the State of Georgia, and the State of North Carolina, each one of which has a BIG Trump lead. Additionally, we hereby claim the State of Michigan if, in fact,.....
Sore loser doesn't even begin to describe this petulant POS
It's like playing a game and when your team scores a point, the coach goes to the referee and demands to end the game and call the 'winner'
What a Muppet
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Fox News has been more aggressive on calling states than other networks. They've called enough states for Biden to reach 264 with just Nevada remaining.
Its ironic that fox news would be the first network to declare Joe Biden the winner.
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Fox News has been more aggressive on calling states than other networks. They've called enough states for Biden to reach 264 with just Nevada remaining.
Its ironic that fox news would be the first network to declare Joe Biden the winner.
Coincidentally, conservatives are rather upset with the news wing of Fox News and view the opinion wing as the only area of non-MSM left at Fox.
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Trump will take Georgia and North Carolina for sure, and will probably take Pennsylvania. Biden will probably get Michigan and the election will come down to Nevada.
PA is still very much in the game. They have counted all the in-person votes and are now just counting the absentee ballots, which are going to Biden at 5 to 1.
Biden is down 300k with still over a million votes to count.
If the trend continues, Biden will pull ahead. At the very least it's going to be extremely close.
Running the numbers, 1.14 million estimated votes that have pulled 78% to 20% for Trump gives Biden an extra 655k votes by the end. This ignores left over in person votes which will lower it, but he only needs 300k.
I suspect there are trends we simply don't have data for, but at a 2 to 1 margin of error, it looks competitive.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1323625920595451904?s=20
To be honest, this shit isn't funny (Don Jr posting an electoral map of the whole red almost in red).
What a tool
No wonder people associate this trash family with Nazis.
Little does he realize that China and India have about 1/2 of the entire earth's population and could probably put Biden over the top by themselves.
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I bet Tucker Carlson wishes he presented that damning evidence afterall about now lolol
I'd love to see his BS commentary after this
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Georgia is looking like being a tie. I wonder how many ballots got lost in the Atlanta mail system?
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I am positive FOX News hopes Biden wins so they can be critical of the president again.
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I was just thinking of that the other day. It must be exhausting to defend Trump all the time.
I'm really hoping that Fox will do actual criticism of Biden instead of dumb conspiracy theories and fancy mustard.
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How do you defend what someone says when they claimed to have 2 Nobel prizes but have zero?
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How do you defend what someone says when they claimed to have 2 Nobel prizes but have zero?
If you identify as a Nobel prize winner you are a Nobel prize winner.
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@realDonaldTrump
How come every time they count Mail-In ballot dumps they are so devastating in their percentage and power of destruction?
I just don't understand how Trump followers can take this guy seriously. Who reads that and thinks, yeah, stupid Democrats and their devastating powers of destruction! He's shitting on our democracy. Ballot dumps?
Maybe... maybe if you didn't tell all your loyal subjects to avoid mail-in ballots, there would have been more of them for you?
Dumbass.
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I was just thinking of that the other day. It must be exhausting to defend Trump all the time.
I'm really hoping that Fox will do actual criticism of Biden instead of dumb conspiracy theories and fancy mustard.
What will all the other media do? I guess slap each other's ass?
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I was just thinking of that the other day. It must be exhausting to defend Trump all the time.
I'm really hoping that Fox will do actual criticism of Biden instead of dumb conspiracy theories and fancy mustard.
What will all the other media do? I guess slap each other's ass?
Nobody watches the other media.
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I was just thinking of that the other day. It must be exhausting to defend Trump all the time.
I'm really hoping that Fox will do actual criticism of Biden instead of dumb conspiracy theories and fancy mustard.
What will all the other media do? I guess slap each other's ass?
Sort of, yes. The other networks really weren't very good at holding Obama accountable. But unfortunately neither was fox news as they kept focused on his dad jeans and other nonsense.
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I was just thinking of that the other day. It must be exhausting to defend Trump all the time.
I'm really hoping that Fox will do actual criticism of Biden instead of dumb conspiracy theories and fancy mustard.
What will all the other media do? I guess slap each other's ass?
Sort of, yes. The other networks really weren't very good at holding Obama accountable. But unfortunately neither was fox news as they kept focused on his dad jeans and other nonsense.
The things Obama did that most democrats hated was stuff like drone strikes against targets in the middle east, and Fox LIKES doing that so they had a tough time there.
The mainstream reported on it, but it was mostly ignored.
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I talked with a friend of mine who thinks Biden is corrupt and should be in jail, and he is suffering from advanced dementia, and the democrats are all communists.
I was curious as to how he reached this point of view, I mean he doesn't watch TV, he's not on facebook or twitter and it turns out he was getting fed a steady diet of propaganda via youtube, the youtube algorithm just kept feeding him with right wing looney stuff that he fell for.
The internet has proven itself over and over that it has the power to radicalize, especially the unsuspecting.
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Lincoln Project is live streaming again. They seem to think Biden could still win Georgia.
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It's down to the wire. It would put my mind at ease to get either Pennsylvania or Georgia.
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Oh this guy is totally normal and sane https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson_MP/status/1324125997898354688?s=20
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Starting to wonder if this country has widespread lead poisoning.
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The story that's being crowded out by the presidential election is the polls. All these polls were fucking garbage! These were even worse than 2016. The predictions were; Trump gets slaughtered, Democrats take the senate and expand the house.
None of that happened.
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CNN. There is an angry Trump mob in front of the counting center in Arizona.
Shutting down the vote count while their guy is behind seems... counterproductive.
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The story that's being crowded out by the presidential election is the polls. All these polls were fucking garbage! These were even worse than 2016. The predictions were; Trump gets slaughtered, Democrats take the senate and expand the house.
None of that happened.
Yeah, that is the big story. AGAIN! Polls, nonsense.
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The party of law and order y'all ::)
https://mobile.twitter.com/1CraftyWitch/status/1324119968166936576
Trumps people are trying to break into the building where the votes are being counted in Detroit! They say they will burn the building down to stop the count!! This is what 48% of the US voted for. TERRORISM!
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Oh this guy is totally normal and sane https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson_MP/status/1324125997898354688?s=20
Dumbarse doesnt even know how to wear a mask! What a moron!
The meltdowns are funny now but Trump has been stoking so much fear and hatred in these people they could turn violent (probably to the delight of Trump given his apathy to life)
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You Americans really know how to drag out an election, like you do with your "football" games
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You Americans really know how to drag out an election, like you do with your "football" games
Same reason: they can sell a lot of advertising space.
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So what if Biden gets 270 and a faithless elector or 2 decides 'I'm gonna give this to Trump' getting Trump over the line....
It's possible.
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So what if Biden gets 270 and a faithless elector or 2 decides 'I'm gonna give this to Trump' getting Trump over the line....
It's possible.
It is. Depends on state law. Some states don't allow it but we'll have to see.
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AZ (88% of the votes in):
DT 1,400,951
JD 1,469,341
However, now the republicans have to deal with this:
https://saraacarter.com/arizona-ag-opens-probe-into-voter-sharpie-complaints-in-maricopa-county/
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AZ (88% of the votes in):
DT 1,400,951
JD 1,469,341
However, now the republicans have to deal with this:
https://saraacarter.com/arizona-ag-opens-probe-into-voter-sharpie-complaints-in-maricopa-county/
Apparantly, not a problem
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/claim-that-sharpie-pens-ruin-arizona-ballots-misses-the-mark/2020/11/04/33777988-1eed-11eb-ad53-4c1fda49907d_story.html
In what’s come to be known as #Sharpiegate, social media posts suggest that election officials in Maricopa County provided voters with Sharpie pens, which interfered with ballots being recorded, specifically those for President Donald Trump.
Arizona election officials say that voting with a Sharpie would have no impact on the votes being recorded by tabulation machines, and if there was an issue, there is a process that would keep the ballots from being canceled out.
Looks like it's just another excuse to claim BS on a result they didn't like
And a 'Fact Check'
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/facebook-posts/voting-machines-dont-read-ballots-filled-sharpies-/
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AZ (88% of the votes in):
DT 1,400,951
JD 1,469,341
However, now the republicans have to deal with this:
https://saraacarter.com/arizona-ag-opens-probe-into-voter-sharpie-complaints-in-maricopa-county/
Apparantly, not a problem
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/claim-that-sharpie-pens-ruin-arizona-ballots-misses-the-mark/2020/11/04/33777988-1eed-11eb-ad53-4c1fda49907d_story.html
In what’s come to be known as #Sharpiegate, social media posts suggest that election officials in Maricopa County provided voters with Sharpie pens, which interfered with ballots being recorded, specifically those for President Donald Trump.
Arizona election officials say that voting with a Sharpie would have no impact on the votes being recorded by tabulation machines, and if there was an issue, there is a process that would keep the ballots from being canceled out.
Looks like it's just another excuse to claim BS on a result they didn't like
And a 'Fact Check'
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/facebook-posts/voting-machines-dont-read-ballots-filled-sharpies-/
Also, how would they know who was voting for Trump before giving them a Sharpie?
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Looks like biden is going to win big.
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"Sharpie pens, which interfered with ballots being recorded, specifically those for President Donald Trump."
Are they claiming the pens are sentient?
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"Sharpie pens, which interfered with ballots being recorded, specifically those for President Donald Trump."
Are they claiming the pens are sentient?
Trump supporters would think so
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"Sharpie pens, which interfered with ballots being recorded, specifically those for President Donald Trump."
Are they claiming the pens are sentient?
Trump supporters would think so
It's all relative, I suppose.
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"Sharpie pens, which interfered with ballots being recorded, specifically those for President Donald Trump."
Are they claiming the pens are sentient?
Moron.
The concern is that the counting machines will not correctly detect votes made with sharpies.
Though this concern seems to be largely invalid.
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"Sharpie pens, which interfered with ballots being recorded, specifically those for President Donald Trump."
Are they claiming the pens are sentient?
Moron.
The concern is that the counting machines will not correctly detect votes made with sharpies.
Though this concern seems to be largely invalid.
He made a comment in jest because the article said "specifically those for President Donald Trump"
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"Sharpie pens, which interfered with ballots being recorded, specifically those for President Donald Trump."
Are they claiming the pens are sentient?
Moron.
The concern is that the counting machines will not correctly detect votes made with sharpies.
Though this concern seems to be largely invalid.
He made a comment in jest because the article said "specifically those for President Donald Trump"
What a wordsmith grandmaster.
Haha.
NO FUN ALLOWED.
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PA is steadily continuing to erase Trump's in-person lead as absentee ballots are counted.
You can see at 75% is when election night ended and all the counties started opening absentee ballots the day after the election.
With only half the absentee ballots counted his margin is almost gone. Trump's lead is down to 164,000 votes. It was 700,000 this time yesterday when the counts started.
And if Biden wins PA... it's over. That will give Biden 273.
"It's over."
Those are the only words I want to hear at this point.
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Georgia looks like there's a chance he will take a slim lead at the end too. That will update in a few hours
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"Sharpie pens, which interfered with ballots being recorded, specifically those for President Donald Trump."
Are they claiming the pens are sentient?
Moron.
The concern is that the counting machines will not correctly detect votes made with sharpies.
Though this concern seems to be largely invalid.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/9363c8468b0713c705c77762dbc0a4b5/tenor.gif)
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"Sharpie pens, which interfered with ballots being recorded, specifically those for President Donald Trump."
Are they claiming the pens are sentient?
Moron.
The concern is that the counting machines will not correctly detect votes made with sharpies.
Though this concern seems to be largely invalid.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/9363c8468b0713c705c77762dbc0a4b5/tenor.gif)
Yes, they are very pointy, meant for high precision.
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LOL
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trumps-legal-filings-are-trash-and-read-like-an-elementary-school-student-wrote-it-msnbcs-legal-experts/
Trump’s legal filings are ‘trash’ and read ‘like an elementary school student’ wrote it: MSNBC’s legal experts
“I asked a lawyer associated with us here at MSNBC today, not an on-air person but some who works off-air, to have a look at the complaint the Trump campaign filed in Michigan to try to stop the vote in Michigan. And that lawyer described it as something that looked like it was written by an elementary school student and something that did not actually have any of the predicates of a basic legal document, including the who, what, where, why, when of what they were alleging was the reason the court should step in and do something.”
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"Sharpie pens, which interfered with ballots being recorded, specifically those for President Donald Trump."
Are they claiming the pens are sentient?
No, but overuse of alcohol based hand sanitizer could cause alcohol based Sharpie ink to smear or otherwise muck up the ballot.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hand-sanitizer-voting-ruin-ballots_l_5fa02f9dc5b60e7e37d0a8d2?ncid=NEWSSTAND0005
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"Sharpie pens, which interfered with ballots being recorded, specifically those for President Donald Trump."
Are they claiming the pens are sentient?
No, but overuse of alcohol based hand sanitizer could cause alcohol based Sharpie ink to smear or otherwise muck up the ballot.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hand-sanitizer-voting-ruin-ballots_l_5fa02f9dc5b60e7e37d0a8d2?ncid=NEWSSTAND0005
Yeah, ruining your ballot would tend to do that
On the other hand, the risk of getting your vote ruined from too much hand sanitizer is very, very real. If you decide to disinfect your ballot, you could end up like the handful of Sacramento County, California, voters who used hand sanitizer on their mail-in ballots. It smeared the ink, causing the ballots to be unreadable to tabulation machines.
The Sacramento voters were given replacement ballots, but it’s a good example of how not to vote on Election Day.
The hand sanitizer would also ruin regular pen ink. It ruins the paper too. If your ballot is ruined because you rubbed hand sanitizer all over it or had your hands dripping wet when filling it out (contrary to the advice), that's not a conspiracy theory to ruin Trumps chances. That's the individuals own damn fault
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Uh oh... Someone handed Trump his phone and he's back on Twitter
"STOP THE COUNT!"
Wannabe dictator arsehole
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Uh oh... Someone handed Trump his phone and he's back on Twitter
"STOP THE COUNT!"
Wannabe dictator arsehole
(https://i.imgur.com/ij2h06p.png)
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The story that's being crowded out by the presidential election is the polls. All these polls were fucking garbage! These were even worse than 2016. The predictions were; Trump gets slaughtered, Democrats take the senate and expand the house.
None of that happened.
I think a lot of people who voted for Biden voted Republican down ballot. Trump is a loon, but having the loony left make the laws is just as bad.
Also, lots of pollsters said that Republicans tend to hang up on survey calls, so they couldn't get accurate data. I am not a Republican but I also hung up on all the surveys, I bet lots of others did too. After 2016 I felt they were kinda worthless. Polling companies are going to have to find a new strategy.
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I don't mind pollsters knowing what I want. I just don't want to answer the phone.
The pollster situation is unfortunately. I actually do want politicians to know what my priorities are. It would be nice if someone put together an app where voters can put together a public wish list of policies and politicians they like or dislike.
It's also surprising to me that Trump would lose but republicans in general would win since according to the polls (those useless polls again) Trump is way more popular than any generic republican.
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There's also a theory that some Trump supporters are too embarrassed or ashamed to admit it.
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Kellyanne talks about what went wrong with the polls. I know she's the devil, but she's extremely knowledgeable about how polling works. That was her job for years.
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I can’t directly link to the video. In this link there is a video where trump supports chant “Count that vote” and “Stop that vote”.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jocicd/trump_supporters_chant_count_that_vote_and_stop/
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Kellyanne talks about what went wrong with the polls. I know she's the devil, but she's extremely knowledgeable about how polling works. That was her job for years.
Cant watch it rn. Can you summarize it quickly?
They used to have tons of excuses, too, after the 2016 election. But they claimed to have it corrected for 2020 ::)
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No one should have expected the Senate to flip, most of the republican seats open were in republican safe havens. The democrats were already going to lose 1 seat in Alabama. The best that could have been hoped for was picking up 1 extra seat to make it 51-49 Rep/Dem. Any polling that showed otherwise should have been questioned by the pollsters.
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Trump can still win, given the irregularities in the counting of the votes process.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/15
3 U.S. Code § 15 - Counting Electoral Votes In Congress
In the States which are trying to steal the election, the legislatures of each such state can send to the Congress their own electors (dueling slates of electors).
Yes, it has happened before (1876).
Contingent election: 12th amendment - the House of Representatives chooses the next president, while the Senate selects the vice president.
That is why the Democrats are so upset over the loss of seats in Congress.
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By irregularities do you mean people voting Democrat?
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Trump can still win, given the irregularities in the counting of the votes process.
What irregularities?
People voting Democratic? Sorry, that's not illegal.
But you are right, I'm sure the GOP will try and overturn the will of the public and have some of the electors choose Trump even when the voters chose Biden.
I expect that level of cheating out of them at this point.
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Did Space Cowgirl hack your account?
"That's debate", "he didn't break any rules".
If irregularities exist (such as burning the votes, throwing out the votes, or counting only votes for Biden while any other votes are excluded), Trump can challenge the election in those states (MI, AZ, WI, NV).
Then, this is what is going to happen:
"Typically, governors certify the results in their respective states and share the information with Congress.
But some academics have outlined a scenario in which the governor and the legislature in a closely contested state submit two different election results. Battleground states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and North Carolina all have Democratic governors and Republican-controlled legislatures.
According to legal experts, it is unclear in this scenario whether Congress should accept the governor's electoral slate or not count the state's electoral votes at all.
While most experts view the scenario as unlikely, there is historical precedent. The Republican-controlled Florida legislature considered submitting its own electors in 2000 before the Supreme Court ended the contest between Bush and Gore. In 1876, three states appointed "dueling electors," prompting Congress to pass the Electoral Count Act in 1887.
Under the act, each chamber of Congress would separately decide which slate of "dueling electors" to accept. As of now, Republicans hold the Senate while Democrats control the House of Representatives, but the electoral count is conducted by the new Congress, which is sworn in on 3 January.
If the two chambers disagree, it's not entirely clear what would happen.
The act says that the electors approved by each state's "executive" should prevail. Many scholars interpret that as a state's governor, but others reject that argument. The law has never been tested or interpreted by the courts.
Ned Foley, a law professor at Ohio State University, called the ECA's wording "virtually impenetrable" in a 2019 paper exploring the possibility of an Electoral College dispute.
Another unlikely possibility is that Trump's Vice President Mike Pence, in his role as Senate president, could try to throw out a state's disputed electoral votes entirely if the two chambers cannot agree, according to Foley's analysis.
In that case, the Electoral College Act does not make clear whether a candidate would still need 270 votes, a majority of the total, or could prevail with a majority of the remaining electoral votes - that is, 260 of the 518 votes left after removing Pennsylvania.
"It is fair to say that none of these laws has been stress-tested before," Benjamin Ginsberg, a lawyer who represented the Bush campaign during the 2000 dispute, told reporters in a conference call on 20 October.
The parties could ask the Supreme Court to resolve any congressional stalemate, but it's not certain the court would be willing to adjudicate how Congress should count electoral votes."
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Yes, it has happened before (1876).
Yeah, man let's party like it's 1876!
Or they could have a revolution, it has happened before (1776).
Or maybe Europeans could establish a colony there, it has happened before (1565)
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Or maybe Europeans could establish a colony there, it has happened before (1565)
This one has my vote.
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Any European country that wishes it could just establish a colony in Montana or the Dakotas. There's so much empty space that they'd probably never notice you anyways.
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Did Space Cowgirl hack your account?
"That's debate", "he didn't break any rules".
If irregularities exist (such as burning the votes, throwing out the votes, or counting only votes for Biden while any other votes are excluded), Trump can challenge the election in those states (MI, AZ, WI, NV).
Then, this is what is going to happen:
"Typically, governors certify the results in their respective states and share the information with Congress.
But some academics have outlined a scenario in which the governor and the legislature in a closely contested state submit two different election results. Battleground states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and North Carolina all have Democratic governors and Republican-controlled legislatures.
According to legal experts, it is unclear in this scenario whether Congress should accept the governor's electoral slate or not count the state's electoral votes at all.
While most experts view the scenario as unlikely, there is historical precedent. The Republican-controlled Florida legislature considered submitting its own electors in 2000 before the Supreme Court ended the contest between Bush and Gore. In 1876, three states appointed "dueling electors," prompting Congress to pass the Electoral Count Act in 1887.
Under the act, each chamber of Congress would separately decide which slate of "dueling electors" to accept. As of now, Republicans hold the Senate while Democrats control the House of Representatives, but the electoral count is conducted by the new Congress, which is sworn in on 3 January.
If the two chambers disagree, it's not entirely clear what would happen.
The act says that the electors approved by each state's "executive" should prevail. Many scholars interpret that as a state's governor, but others reject that argument. The law has never been tested or interpreted by the courts.
Ned Foley, a law professor at Ohio State University, called the ECA's wording "virtually impenetrable" in a 2019 paper exploring the possibility of an Electoral College dispute.
Another unlikely possibility is that Trump's Vice President Mike Pence, in his role as Senate president, could try to throw out a state's disputed electoral votes entirely if the two chambers cannot agree, according to Foley's analysis.
In that case, the Electoral College Act does not make clear whether a candidate would still need 270 votes, a majority of the total, or could prevail with a majority of the remaining electoral votes - that is, 260 of the 518 votes left after removing Pennsylvania.
"It is fair to say that none of these laws has been stress-tested before," Benjamin Ginsberg, a lawyer who represented the Bush campaign during the 2000 dispute, told reporters in a conference call on 20 October.
The parties could ask the Supreme Court to resolve any congressional stalemate, but it's not certain the court would be willing to adjudicate how Congress should count electoral votes."
Or you would have a president and vice president from two different parties.
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We can also reintroduce duels. But only with black powder weapons.
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If irregularities exist (such as burning the votes, throwing out the votes, or counting only votes for Biden while any other votes are excluded), Trump can challenge the election in those states (MI, AZ, WI, NV).
Who is counting only votes for Biden?
Got any actual, evidence or just making things up in your head again?
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If irregularities exist (such as burning the votes, throwing out the votes, or counting only votes for Biden while any other votes are excluded), Trump can challenge the election in those states (MI, AZ, WI, NV).
Who is counting only votes for Biden?
Got any actual, evidence or just making things up in your head again?
In a court if there is no evidence it didn't happen. If Trump wants to make these baseless accusations, he is in for more embarrassment and disappointment
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Here is the paper:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3446021 (a superb analysis of what is going to happen if Trump follows through)
Thus, ultimately, the likelihood of this scenario occurring may depend
upon how much doubt can be cast upon the officially certified canvass of
the popular vote—and thus the plausibility of the claim that the blue shift
in the overtime count amounts to a theft of an Election Night victory that
was rightfully Trump’s. If during the canvass itself, Trump can gain
traction with his allegation that the blue shift amounts to fraudulently
fabricated ballots—along the lines of his 2018 tweet about Florida—then
it becomes more politically tenable to claim that the legislature must step
in and appoint the state’s electors directly to reflect the “true” will of the
state’s voters, who otherwise would be deprived of the result they
mandated as reflected on Election Night.
Conversely, if
he was able to convince at least his own Republican supporters that the
blue shift was an electoral calamity comparable to a cyberattack, thereby
nullifying the validity of the canvass and the overtime count, his
argument that direct legislative appointment was necessary to fill the void
left by the invalid blue shift would strengthen correspondingly at least in
the eyes of his own supporters.
In any event, this analysis will proceed on the assumption that Mike
Pence, as President of the Senate, receives two sets of electoral votes from
Pennsylvania: one reflecting the count of the canvass, certified by the
governor; and the other reflecting the legislature’s assertion of its
authority to directly appoint the state’s electors.
Other Republicans offer an alternative argument, which would still
lead to Trump’s reelection. They contend that, under the proper
interpretation of the operative federal statute—the Electoral Count Act of
1887—Pennsylvania’s electoral votes must be discarded because both
conflicting submissions of electoral votes from the state purport to be
timely and authoritative under state law.
29 Because neither submission
has inherently higher status from a federal vantage point, according to
this alternative argument, both submissions in effect cancel each other
out, and there are no electoral votes from Pennsylvania to be counted.
Moreover, this argument continues, Pennsylvania’s failure to appoint
electors in a manner capable of recognition by Congress alters the
arithmetic for determining which candidate won an Electoral College
majority. Because Pennsylvania did not validly appoint any electors, only
a total of 518 electors were appointed (the usual 538 minus
Pennsylvania’s 20). Trump won an undisputed 260 Electoral College
votes apart from the controversy over Pennsylvania. Because 260 is a
bare majority of 518, these Republicans contend that Trump has secured
“a majority of the whole number of electors appointed,” within the
meaning of the Twelfth Amendment, and thus must be recognized as the
duly elected president for a second term.
But what if the Senate and House disagree? What if, in other words,
the Pelosi-led House votes to accept the electoral votes for Biden, while
simultaneously the McConnell-led Senate votes to accept the electoral
votes for Trump? Here is where the statutory morass of 3 U.S.C. § 15
becomes an interpretative quagmire.
Several scholars, including one from the Congressional
Research Service, assert that when multiple submission of electoral votes
from the same state all claim “safe harbor” protection, none can be
counted—not even one bearing a gubernatorial certificate—unless both
houses of Congress agree upon which submission is entitled to this “safe
harbor” status.52 These scholars quote a separate portion of the
impenetrable text of 3 U.S.C. § 15:
n case there shall arise the question which of two or more of such
State authorities determining what electors have been appointed, as
mentioned in section 5 of this title, is the lawful tribunal of such State,
the votes regularly given of those electors, and those only, of such State
shall be counted whose title as electors the two Houses, acting
separately, shall concurrently decide is supported by the decision of
such State so authorized by its law . . . .
This language, these scholars contend, means that both Houses must
agree to count electoral votes claiming safe-harbor status when other
electoral votes from the same state are also making the same safe-harbor
claim. In support of their contention that the electoral votes bearing the
governor’s signature cannot be counted in this situation, as long as one
chamber of Congress objects, these scholars offer this reasoning:
If the Houses cannot agree on the authoritative determination . . . no
vote from the state in question is counted. This result follows regardless
of the governor’s action. Congress in this case looks to the executive
certificate only as evidence of the decision reached by a tribunal
authorized by the state legislature. If the decision of the authorized
tribunal cannot be made out, then there is no valid return for the
governor to certify.
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At state's top executive is definitively the governor. The governor is the leader of the executive branch of a state, just like the president is the leader of the executive branch of the country, thus the country's top executive. There is no ambiguity about that.
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Read the paper: that argument can be circumvented legally, using the Constitution and the Electoral Count Act.
If Trump decides to fight to the end given the humongous irregularities in WI, MI, AZ and presumably even PA, the paper explains exactly what is going to happen all the way to January 21. It is very well written.
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Here is the paper:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3446021 (a superb analysis of what is going to happen if Trump follows through)
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And just like that, American democracy is over. Amazing stuff, thanks. There’s probably a very large number of people who would be fine with it too, just to keep their man in charge.
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Read the paper: that argument can be circumvented legally, using the Constitution and the Electoral Count Act.
If Trump decides to fight to the end given the humongous irregularities in WI, MI, AZ and presumably even PA, the paper explains exactly what is going to happen all the way to January 21. It is very well written.
There is no evidence of irregularities though. Certainly not 'humongous' ones. It's just baseless allegations. In fact it's just outright lying
Trump insisted his voters not to use the mail in voting. He told them to vote in person, on the day
Democratic voters overwhelmingly used the mail. It's a standard practice style of voting and is not illegal. Of course when the open up the mailed ballots it will be mostly for Biden. Trump destroyed his own credibility when he went on a demented rant about fraud early in the night before a lot of these mail in votes were being counted. His agenda is clear as day and he just didn't like it that people weren't voting for him.
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The United States of America are a Republic, not a democracy. Madison and Jefferson were totally against "a democracy".
Trump has already begun to contest the election in Nevada:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-campaign-make-major-announcement-vegas
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The vote count is being overseen by representatives of both democrats and republicans. There hasn't been a single count observer claiming anything irregular. The only person who has claimed anything has been in Michigan, and they went to James O'Keefe instead of the police, the USPS Inspector General, the FBI, or any other law enforcement agency, pretty much destroying any credibility. There is not rampant voter fraud being committed in the name of Biden, that is just a pipe dream used by Trump to keep himself from feeling his lose.
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The United States of America are a Republic, not a democracy. Madison and Jefferson were totally against "a democracy".
Trump has already begun to contest the election in Nevada:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-campaign-make-major-announcement-vegas
That seems a bit premature, given that Nevada isn't set to update their counts for at least another hour or so.
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The United States of America are a Republic, not a democracy.
You guys love repeating this guff, but republics and democracies are not mutually exclusive. There's even a name for it: Democratic republic
You are a republic and a representative democracy (that's why you have all that voting and shit).
If you don't think the USA is a democracy, then who is and why?
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The vote count is being overseen by representatives of both democrats and republicans.
No.
In MI the democrats are doing the counting, with no one supervising them!
https://www.infowars.com/posts/what-are-they-hiding-detroit-absentee-counting-center-blocks-partisan-observers-from-monitoring-process/
"Georgia: Trump up by 18000 with 99% of votes counted.
6:31AM: "There are now under 25,000 ballots left to be counted and Secretary of State Raffensperger says the state should be done by noon today."
Well, that bodes well for Trump. Oh, wait.....
8:30AM: "The Secretary of State’s Office is now saying there are 50,000-60,000 uncounted ballots remaining, more than the secretary initially thought early this morning."
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/live-updates-eyes-georgia-state-works-finish-counting-outstanding-ballots/K2PXD7SI3VCDPGNUPMRAV7K5UU/
Don't be shocked if Trump "loses" Georgia by about 20,000 votes."
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Linking to infowars as a legitimate news sight? Where did your integrity go Sando?
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As things stand right now, Trump has legitimate reasons to contest the election in several states.
The paper linked earlier spells out what is going to happen until January 21, in case Trump decides to fight, and follow through, if he is serious about it.
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Linking to infowars as a legitimate news sight? Where did your integrity go Sando?
Are people expecting these angry thugs, some brandishing guns be allowed in these counting sites to act as monitors?
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If you don't think the USA is a democracy, then who is and why?
Switzerland.
I think the u.s. are the shittiest "democracy" existing.
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The United States of America are a Republic, not a democracy.
You guys love repeating this guff, but republics and democracies are not mutually exclusive. There's even a name for it: Democratic republic
You are a republic and a representative democracy (that's why you have all that voting and shit).
If you don't think the USA is a democracy, then who is and why?
Probably something to do with the fact that one party calls themselves the Republicans and the other the Democrats.
Probably aimed at swaying the simplest minds who understand nothing about politics or the constitution of their country (besides the 2nd amendment tattooed on their arse cheek) that the Republicans are meant to be in charge “coz it’s a republic”.
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If Alex Jones says there's election irregularities, then we should start all over.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/pennsylvania-county-wont-resume-counting-votes-until-friday-due-administrative-work
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If you don't think the USA is a democracy, then who is and why?
Switzerland.
I think the u.s. are the shittiest "democracy" existing.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/pennsylvania-county-wont-resume-counting-votes-until-friday-due-administrative-work
One particular county. They still might have most of it counted today.
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The United States of America are a Republic, not a democracy. Madison and Jefferson were totally against "a democracy".
Oh. You've got a point there. Well I guess we have no choice but to let Trump be president for life.
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The vote count is being overseen by representatives of both democrats and republicans.
No.
I see you're staying in your own little world as usual. You can scream no all you want, it doesn't change anything, nor is it evidence. You have none. What else is new?
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Kellyanne talks about what went wrong with the polls. I know she's the devil, but she's extremely knowledgeable about how polling works. That was her job for years.
Cant watch it rn. Can you summarize it quickly?
They used to have tons of excuses, too, after the 2016 election. But they claimed to have it corrected for 2020 ::)
I'm rewatching so I can give you the rundown -
State polls are more reliable than national polls, but even those are not great because they're media polls and academic polls.
Not a single poll in the state of Maine showed Susan Collins ahead - she won by almost 9 points.
Montage of the pollsters and pundits getting it all wrong, like saying this is the year Texas goes blue, or that Joe Biden will win in a landslide, blue wave, etc.
Now Kellyanne talks about the difference in the various polls. She says the media won't cover internal polls because they are biased and they want their candidate to win, but she says internal polls are more accurate because that is what the campaigns use to determine where to put more effort in. Like buying ads, groundwork, etc. That part of the campaign costs money, so of course they want internal polling to be the most accurate. Then she talks about how none of the pollsters were fired after getting it so wrong in 2016, and they won't be fired this time either. She says none of these media polls are scientific. It's increasingly difficult to sample enough people in each cohort - race, gender, age, education, etc. She says you have to wait to finish a poll over time, but these pollsters "weight" their results, so they use a small number of responders and extrapolate the data based on the weight they give to responder in the cohort.
I think that's about it other than rehashing a bunch of stuff the polls got wrong. It's an interesting video.
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Getting fed up of this election now, America sucks
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Getting fed up of this election now, America sucks
The process is a little messy. Not unlike making a Thanksgiving turkey. If you aren't covered in turkey guts, with bits of chopped onions in your hair and mashed potatoes smeared on your shirt by the time the bird goes into the oven unplucked, you didn't really get the part of the experience that makes it so great. Does that make sense, the way I explained it?
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Now that I see it written, on second thought, it does sound like there could be potential to streamline things.
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Getting fed up of this election now, America sucks
Yeah, they generally do the reality TV show better than anyone else, but this is not good. I've been having a blast with The Whitehouse for a few years, but they are really dragging this plot line out, they need to move on. I liked it best with the porn models and stuff, they should bring them back.
Giuliani is always funny though, glad he's getting some airtime.
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Now that I see it written, on second thought, it does sound like there could be potential to streamline things.
Of course there is:
(https://www.syracuse.com/resizer/FI5j6qdYY-GpA3BYnEHGqnnjdiw=/1280x0/smart/advancelocal-adapter-image-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/image.advance.net/home/adv-media/width2048/img/newyorkupstatecom_national_desk_blog/photo/2017/11/20/23795062-standard.jpg)
Anyway, what's taking Nevada so long?
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I was wondering the same thing about Nevada.
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From Vegas. Can confirm that they're probably all drunk and gave the ballots to strippers. Delays may occur.
Pennsylvania though, that was very intentionally designed to be drawn out by the republicans.
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Getting fed up of this election now, America sucks
The process is a little messy. Not unlike making a Thanksgiving turkey. If you aren't covered in turkey guts, with bits of chopped onions in your hair and mashed potatoes smeared on your shirt by the time the bird goes into the oven unplucked, you didn't really get the part of the experience that makes it so great. Does that make sense, the way I explained it?
Well it makes sense in the sense that turkey sucks, and so does America, so they both suck?
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You all should remember: These states are the ones that will decide everything. They are not gonna be half assing it to get a speed count. Not when President "I have already won, stop counting" Trump is watching. Best to go slow, give no mistakes, and let him stew in the wait.
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I was wondering the same thing about Nevada.
Maybe they're waiting for better odds from the bookies. :-\
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You all should remember: These states are the ones that will decide everything. They are not gonna be half assing it to get a speed count. Not when President "I have already won, stop counting" Trump is watching. Best to go slow, give no mistakes, and let him stew in the wait.
More that Republicans launched last minute legal cases over the counting, which meant they couldn’t get started on early votes until they were resolved. They only bothered in states which would be close.
As Trump has been telling his supporters they need to cast their votes on the day, they totally engineered the situation of him leading at the end of the night with more Biden votes still to be counted.
They knew exactly what they were doing, which is why the decision to try and claim it early was made in advance.
What gets me is how the right (not just in America) always seems to have a really good idea how things are going to play out, while the left tend to vastly overestimate their performance. Gauging where votes are going to fall is the one thing they are really good at, and they know how to work it to their advantage.
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When America was actually great....
Note the cheers from his supporters when he said 'let's get behind the new President!'
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/watch-ballot-count-watcher-describes-least-130000-ballots-biden-arriving-three-vehicles-detroit-dead-night/
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/watch-ballot-count-watcher-describes-least-130000-ballots-biden-arriving-three-vehicles-detroit-dead-night/
How does she know votes inside a van are 'all for Biden?'
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When America was actually great....
Note the cheers from his supporters when he said 'let's get behind the new President!'
There are 3 key inflection points in American politics that did a lot to bring us here.
The nationalization of politics pioneered by Newt Gingrich
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/662/transcript
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC
Which allowed unlimited dark money in politics. This is the point where the Republicans went all in on climate and science denial.
For profit 24 hours news networks.
https://www.medialit.org/reading-room/whatever-happened-news
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When America was actually great....
Note the cheers from his supporters when he said 'let's get behind the new President!'
There are 3 key inflection points in American politics that did a lot to bring us here.
The nationalization of politics pioneered by Newt Gingrich
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/662/transcript
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC
Which allowed unlimited dark money in politics. This is the point where the Republicans went all in on climate and science denial.
For profit 24 hours news networks.
https://www.medialit.org/reading-room/whatever-happened-news
Really? You can't think of anything else that might have come along in the last 30 years?
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When America was actually great....
Note the cheers from his supporters when he said 'let's get behind the new President!'
There are 3 key inflection points in American politics that did a lot to bring us here.
The nationalization of politics pioneered by Newt Gingrich
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/662/transcript
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC
Which allowed unlimited dark money in politics. This is the point where the Republicans went all in on climate and science denial.
For profit 24 hours news networks.
https://www.medialit.org/reading-room/whatever-happened-news
Really? You can't think of anything else that might have come along in the last 30 years?
Yes but I think things like these things were the hair line fractures that developed into the larger cracks that you see.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/watch-ballot-count-watcher-describes-least-130000-ballots-biden-arriving-three-vehicles-detroit-dead-night/
How does she know votes inside a van are 'all for Biden?'
The GOP watchers were barred from the room they were being counted in, but somehow she knows they were all for Biden. Take it up with the State Election Commission, I'm sure they would be very interested to hear about election fraud in this manner, as it's open and shut for them, they just need to get the license plate numbers for the ferrari that dropped off the ballots, though it'll be hard to find that very common car in Detriot ::)
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Trump is about to speak. I'm guessing it's not a concession speech.
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Maybe the African angels heard the sound of victory.
I grew up going to church three times a week, and I just cannot figure out how Paula White made it to the top of the televangelist ranks. She's terrible! If I sat through one of her creepy repetitive sermons (if you can call it that) I'd never go back. You'd think Trump would have picked a better televangelist to be his spiritual advisor.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/watch-ballot-count-watcher-describes-least-130000-ballots-biden-arriving-three-vehicles-detroit-dead-night/
You debate elections like you debate the shape of the earth, stupidly.
https://m.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2020/11/05/viral-video-alleging-a-ballot-box-had-entered-detroits-tcf-center-after-deadline-was-actually-camera-equipment
TLDR some camera equipment made the republicans rage.
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Whoa! I didn't know that the ballots were possessed by demons!
I don't know. Maybe they should stop the count.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/watch-ballot-count-watcher-describes-least-130000-ballots-biden-arriving-three-vehicles-detroit-dead-night/
What else would you expect to read on a far right website known for its falsehoods , lies and hoaxes. I suppose it’s right up your alley!
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Okay. Not a concession speech.
This may well be Trump's most humiliating press conference ever. Pretty sure it's going to lead to a lot of violence.
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Okay. Not a concession speech.
This may well be Trump's most humiliating press conference ever. Pretty sure it's going to lead to a lot of violence.
He sounds pretty depressed.
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The best part was that during this press conference the split screen showed his lead in Georgia cut in half.
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Georgia is at 99%, I wonder if that final percent will be all Biden. Unless I am having trouble counting the numbers, it looks like Trump is only about 3,000 votes ahead.
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What the hell is wrong with Republicans.
If a liberal friend of mine asked me to come with them to the local polling place so we could force our way in and STOP DEMOCRACY I'd slap them!
Stop the vote? Stop counting? Stop voting? They really DO want a dictatorship, don't they? I've had more than one conservative friend admit they would be ok with Trump as dictator but I guess that's more common than I thought.
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The most deranged, unhinged, embarrassing, disgusting meltdown caught live on TV
This is what a POS desperate to avoid prison looks like I guess. How can any repugnican not shake their head in disgust.
What a spectacle. Almost choked on my popcorn!
In seriousness, in full seriousness, I hope you guys don't descend into violence. It's quite clear Trump is going for that.
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LOL Steve Bannon account permanently banned from Twitter after calling for beheadings.
https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/05/steve-bannons-show-pulled-off-twitter-and-youtube-over-calls-for-violence/
This not going to end well.
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Georgia is at 99%, I wonder if that final percent will be all Biden. Unless I am having trouble counting the numbers, it looks like Trump is only about 3,000 votes ahead.
Looks more and more like Biden will take GA, NV, AZ and PA, while Trump takes NC.
Also it's looking like there will be run off elections for control of the senate in January... I still want to see Mitch's head explode when they expand the Supreme Court.
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LOL Steve Bannon account permanently banned from Twitter after calling for beheadings.
https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/05/steve-bannons-show-pulled-off-twitter-and-youtube-over-calls-for-violence/
This not going to end well.
It's a wonder they haven't suspended Trump. Although maybe they're scared the Trumptards would totally flip their shit so they just attach the BS detector to his posts
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It's a pity for Trump he has those bone spurs. I'm sure he'd totally like to go to war over this.
Meh, he'll just get his lemmings to throw away their lives for him instead
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LOL Steve Bannon account permanently banned from Twitter after calling for beheadings.
https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/05/steve-bannons-show-pulled-off-twitter-and-youtube-over-calls-for-violence/
This not going to end well.
It's a wonder they haven't suspended Trump. Although maybe they're scared the Trumptards would totally flip their shit so they just attach the BS detector to his posts
World leaders get special treatment. Once he's out of office he will go back to having the regular rules applied.
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It's looking exceedingly like like Biden will win Georgia. Pennsylvania too.
Now if he can just hold his leads in Arizona and Nevada, Bidens EC number will be over 300
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Shep Smith critiquing Trump's earlier press conference https://twitter.com/thenewsoncnbc/status/1324503704930832388?s=20
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Sean Hannity is really going into overdrive with the propoganda.
I would have hoped that helping to destroy democracy would be a line that he would that he wouldn't cross. It seems that isn't the case though.
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Shep Smith critiquing Trump's earlier press conference https://twitter.com/thenewsoncnbc/status/1324503704930832388?s=20
Trump = owned lol
"can you get him out of my ear please"
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https://m.imgur.com/gallery/2IgCSrE
Incase you needed anymore evidence that Trumpism is nothing but a cult
Holy hell
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Insane
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https://watchingromeburn.uk/news/trumps-64-day-post-election-endgame-or-can-a-criminal-be-inaugurated-president/
The poll in this thread should be reopened (voting closes January 21).
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(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTM3MQlG05WzHPhdh3juh6_6F9nMjSKPm4pcg&usqp=CAU)
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(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTM3MQlG05WzHPhdh3juh6_6F9nMjSKPm4pcg&usqp=CAU)
That is surprisingly insiteful.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/watch-ballot-count-watcher-describes-least-130000-ballots-biden-arriving-three-vehicles-detroit-dead-night/
You debate elections like you debate the shape of the earth, stupidly.
https://m.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2020/11/05/viral-video-alleging-a-ballot-box-had-entered-detroits-tcf-center-after-deadline-was-actually-camera-equipment
TLDR some camera equipment made the republicans rage.
Remember this?
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=85436.msg2245902#msg2245902
That's how stupid you really are.
As for the shape of the Earth, only a numbskull can believe that trillions of tons of water stay in place next to the outer surface of a sphere. And that's you.
https://indeki.com/suitcases-and-coolers-rolled-into-detroit-voting-center-at-4-am-brought-into-secure-counting-area.html
You do not bring camera equipment at 4 a.m. Not to mention coolers. With no identification check. So cut the crap.
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(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTM3MQlG05WzHPhdh3juh6_6F9nMjSKPm4pcg&usqp=CAU)
That is surprisingly insiteful.
Going to have to frame that one.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/watch-ballot-count-watcher-describes-least-130000-ballots-biden-arriving-three-vehicles-detroit-dead-night/
You debate elections like you debate the shape of the earth, stupidly.
https://m.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2020/11/05/viral-video-alleging-a-ballot-box-had-entered-detroits-tcf-center-after-deadline-was-actually-camera-equipment
TLDR some camera equipment made the republicans rage.
Remember this?
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=85436.msg2245902#msg2245902
That's how stupid you really are.
As for the shape of the Earth, only a numbskull can believe that trillions of tons of water stay in place next to the outer surface of a sphere. And that's you.
https://indeki.com/suitcases-and-coolers-rolled-into-detroit-voting-center-at-4-am-brought-into-secure-counting-area.html
You do not bring camera equipment at 4 a.m. Not to mention coolers. With no identification check. So cut the crap.
Your link was worthless much like your knowledge of biology.
It was camera equipment. There is a reason the lawsuits were thrown out. No evidence for any of the fraud claims.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/watch-ballot-count-watcher-describes-least-130000-ballots-biden-arriving-three-vehicles-detroit-dead-night/
You debate elections like you debate the shape of the earth, stupidly.
https://m.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2020/11/05/viral-video-alleging-a-ballot-box-had-entered-detroits-tcf-center-after-deadline-was-actually-camera-equipment
TLDR some camera equipment made the republicans rage.
Remember this?
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=85436.msg2245902#msg2245902
That's how stupid you really are.
As for the shape of the Earth, only a numbskull can believe that trillions of tons of water stay in place next to the outer surface of a sphere. And that's you.
https://indeki.com/suitcases-and-coolers-rolled-into-detroit-voting-center-at-4-am-brought-into-secure-counting-area.html
You do not bring camera equipment at 4 a.m. Not to mention coolers. With no identification check. So cut the crap.
Sandokhan, please. Let's ease down with the ad hominem. You're better than that.
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https://m.imgur.com/gallery/2IgCSrE
Incase you needed anymore evidence that Trumpism is nothing but a cult
Holy hell
Oh no, Angelic reinforcements incoming!
Take cover Dems.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/watch-ballot-count-watcher-describes-least-130000-ballots-biden-arriving-three-vehicles-detroit-dead-night/
You debate elections like you debate the shape of the earth, stupidly.
https://m.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2020/11/05/viral-video-alleging-a-ballot-box-had-entered-detroits-tcf-center-after-deadline-was-actually-camera-equipment
TLDR some camera equipment made the republicans rage.
Remember this?
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=85436.msg2245902#msg2245902
That's how stupid you really are.
As for the shape of the Earth, only a numbskull can believe that trillions of tons of water stay in place next to the outer surface of a sphere. And that's you.
https://indeki.com/suitcases-and-coolers-rolled-into-detroit-voting-center-at-4-am-brought-into-secure-counting-area.html
You do not bring camera equipment at 4 a.m. Not to mention coolers. With no identification check. So cut the crap.
1. What was a lawyer doing sitting in a car outside at 4am?
2. Why didn't they show the markings on the side of the van?
3. Camera equipment at 4am makes sense if you are doing a segment for the morning news. Like news stations tend to do.
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And Biden takes the lead in Georgia!! Hahaha
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https://m.imgur.com/gallery/2IgCSrE
Incase you needed anymore evidence that Trumpism is nothing but a cult
Holy hell
STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE
YER OUTTA THERE!
Wait, she's not talking about baseball is she?
Trump really can pick them, can't he. Holy hell she's a nutcase. And seemingly calling for violence?
Trump is equally terrifying and pathetic, and hilarious.
(https://i.imgur.com/e0EW30j.gif)
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Oh! she waited,...... and waited.... then finally with the frog prince going full caps lock on twitter.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/nov/05/greta-thunberg-donald-trump-twitter-chill
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I was kind of hoping Mike Pence was your typical boring everyday pollie who could at least give the appearance of sounding statesmen like but here he is (12 hours ago)
I Stand With President
@realDonaldTrump
. We must count every LEGAL vote.
He's basically echoing and approving of all the shit Trump has said. The baseless fraud claims, the undermining of democracy, the call outs for stopping the counts, the 'I call dibs on this, this and that state' nonsense. All of it. Pence stands by it all.
The entire repugnican party is a cancer on American democracy.
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I was kind of hoping Mike Pence was your typical boring everyday pollie who could at least give the appearance of sounding statesmen like but here he is (12 hours ago)
I Stand With President
@realDonaldTrump
. We must count every LEGAL vote.
He's basically echoing and approving of all the shit Trump has said. The baseless fraud claims, the undermining of democracy, the call outs for stopping the counts, the 'I call dibs on this, this and that state' nonsense. All of it. Pence stands by it all.
The entire repugnican party is a cancer on American democracy.
And if Trump goes down in flames, he will turn around and distance himself because he never SAID any of those terrible things, he was just saying he was standing next to the President. I was just standing there, I wasn't trying to destroy democracy!
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I was kind of hoping Mike Pence was your typical boring everyday pollie who could at least give the appearance of sounding statesmen like but here he is (12 hours ago)
I Stand With President
@realDonaldTrump
. We must count every LEGAL vote.
He's basically echoing and approving of all the shit Trump has said. The baseless fraud claims, the undermining of democracy, the call outs for stopping the counts, the 'I call dibs on this, this and that state' nonsense. All of it. Pence stands by it all.
The entire repugnican party is a cancer on American democracy.
And if Trump goes down in flames, he will turn around and distance himself because he never SAID any of those terrible things, he was just saying he was standing next to the President. I was just standing there, I wasn't trying to destroy democracy!
Or that of course he meant votes cast in person and postal ballots. Implausible deniability.
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I was kind of hoping Mike Pence was your typical boring everyday pollie who could at least give the appearance of sounding statesmen like but here he is (12 hours ago)
I Stand With President
@realDonaldTrump
. We must count every LEGAL vote.
He's basically echoing and approving of all the shit Trump has said. The baseless fraud claims, the undermining of democracy, the call outs for stopping the counts, the 'I call dibs on this, this and that state' nonsense. All of it. Pence stands by it all.
The entire repugnican party is a cancer on American democracy.
And if Trump goes down in flames, he will turn around and distance himself because he never SAID any of those terrible things, he was just saying he was standing next to the President. I was just standing there, I wasn't trying to destroy democracy!
Or that of course he meant votes cast in person and postal ballots. Implausible deniability.
All legal votes. Which includes the ones being counted now.
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Oh hey, I just cheated in the election! My vote got counted today!
I'm such an evil Democrat, voting after the election.
I'm a fraud.
I'm a cheater.
I'm a... creep... what the hell am I doing here?
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Excellent news about Georgia. One state they could plausibly steal. Two states is a much bigger ask.
I think they're waiting on calling Georgia because of the possibility of a large number of overseas ballots that haven't been counted yet.
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Excellent news about Georgia. One state they could plausibly steal. Two states is a much bigger ask.
I think they're waiting on calling Georgia because of the possibility of a large number of overseas ballots that haven't been counted yet.
700. Thats such a tiny number. Its scary.
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How many more days of this?
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How many more days of this?
One more. Sort of.
The presidential election is quite a bit more informal than it seems. Once there's no mathematical way to win a candidate usually concedes as fast as possible for the good of the country.
But with Trump not being very interested in math or the good of the country could drag this out by quite a bit.
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How many more days of this?
Days?
I admire your optimism.
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Breaking news, Biden now has the lead in PA by 5,587 votes and the count is continuing.
Trump needs to win BOTH states of PA and GA to get to 270, and is behind in each of them now.
Not looking good for him.
I guess my 'cheating' vote helped.
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How many more days of this?
Days?
I admire your optimism.
*cries* wake me up when its over
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Biden just edged ahead in Pennsylvania!
It’s taking long enough to get through the postal ballots, but it’s looking like a clear win now.
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Biden just edged ahead in Pennsylvania!
It’s taking long enough to get through the postal ballots, but it’s looking like a clear win now.
Yes. Philadelphia just released 20,000 of 50,000 ballots, that pushed it from Trump leading by 18,000 to Biden leading by 5,000.
So... (18000+5000)*50000/20000+5000 = 62,500
Biden should be up by 60k votes once Philly finishes counting, plus other locations with outstanding votes.
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Nice!
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I'd love to be a fly on the wall in whatever room Trump is melting down in right now.
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I'd love to be a fly on the wall in whatever room Trump is melting down in right now.
I'd give my left foot to see Giuliani and Trump in conference. It must be hilarious.
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I think they need to have that faith advisor do another round of angry baby talk. The first round didn't seem to quite take.
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“The best thing for America’s future is for @realDonaldTrump to go to total war over this election to expose all of the fraud, cheating, dead/no longer in state voters, that has been going on for far too long” - Trump Jr.
Are they even pretending anymore?
(https://i.imgur.com/4khDFqG.png)
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So the democrats did some kind of nationwide conspiracy to steal the election from the president but didn't bother to take the senate or at least not lose seats in the house.
Good god the democrats are bad at election theft.
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I just rewatched John McCain's concession speech and I cannot imagine Trump ever being so gracious and patriotic.
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Biden campaign on reports Trump won't concede: US can escort "trespassers out of the White House"
Ouch. ;D
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Didn't see McCain's speech. I did see Romney's concession speech though. It was gracious. Obviously whatever differences I have with Romney it was clear that he's much more of a man of honor than Trump.
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The only way Trump can reach 270 now is by losing 50lbs.
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https://watchingromeburn.uk/news/trumps-64-day-post-election-endgame-or-can-a-criminal-be-inaugurated-president/
The poll in this thread should be reopened (voting closes January 21).
Voting is closed.
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I wonder how the bom is doing?
Probably lying drunk in a ditch somewhere. Poor guy, sometimes reality can be harsh :'(
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Breaking news, Biden now has the lead in PA by 5,587 votes and the count is continuing.
Trump needs to win BOTH states of PA and GA to get to 270, and is behind in each of them now.
Not looking good for him.
I guess my 'cheating' vote helped.
Even if he won both, it won't be enough. At this point, all joe needs is Nevada and he wins. Trump could get the others and lose.
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Breaking news, Biden now has the lead in PA by 5,587 votes and the count is continuing.
Trump needs to win BOTH states of PA and GA to get to 270, and is behind in each of them now.
Not looking good for him.
I guess my 'cheating' vote helped.
Even if he won both, it won't be enough. At this point, all joe needs is Nevada and he wins. Trump could get the others and lose.
That would depend on how the inevitable recounts go.
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Breaking news, Biden now has the lead in PA by 5,587 votes and the count is continuing.
Trump needs to win BOTH states of PA and GA to get to 270, and is behind in each of them now.
Not looking good for him.
I guess my 'cheating' vote helped.
Even if he won both, it won't be enough. At this point, all joe needs is Nevada and he wins. Trump could get the others and lose.
If he somehow flipped PA and GA back to him he would be here.
214+15(NC)+20(PA)+GA(16) gets him to 265.
Then he needs Nevada or Arizona.
So Biden needs to do one of two things.
Keep PA or GA.
Keep NV and AZ.
Or Biden could do both of those things, which is what I'm hoping. :)
AZ could flip to Trump, too many unknowns. But at this point it's just a matter of how far over 270 Biden gets, not if he will get there.
Such a weird election! Trump got FL and OH, and those have been the must have states you can't possibly win without. Maybe FL will become a state we can ignore. That would be nice!
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Breaking news, Biden now has the lead in PA by 5,587 votes and the count is continuing.
Trump needs to win BOTH states of PA and GA to get to 270, and is behind in each of them now.
Not looking good for him.
I guess my 'cheating' vote helped.
Even if he won both, it won't be enough. At this point, all joe needs is Nevada and he wins. Trump could get the others and lose.
That would depend on how the inevitable recounts go.
Recounts rarely flip a decision unless the margin is razor thin. GA? Perhaps. PA? No way.
Usually you get a few hundred votes one way or another. That's not going to flip a 20k lead.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324613375213621248?s=20
Twitter is out of control, made possible through the government gift of Section 230!
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Twitter wouldn't even exist without Section 230.
What would he do then?
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324613375213621248?s=20
Twitter is out of control, made possible through the government gift of Section 230!
LOL.
His face must be the weirdest mix of red and whatever orange paint they put on it right now.
You know your days as President are numbered when everyone stops sucking up to you and giving you special privileges.
First Fox abandons him, now Twitter.
I wonder when the divorce will happen.
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Breaking news, Biden now has the lead in PA by 5,587 votes and the count is continuing.
Trump needs to win BOTH states of PA and GA to get to 270, and is behind in each of them now.
Not looking good for him.
I guess my 'cheating' vote helped.
Even if he won both, it won't be enough. At this point, all joe needs is Nevada and he wins. Trump could get the others and lose.
That would depend on how the inevitable recounts go.
Recounts rarely flip a decision unless the margin is razor thin. GA? Perhaps. PA? No way.
Usually you get a few hundred votes one way or another. That's not going to flip a 20k lead.
Depends on how many votes are determined to be "illegal" and get tossed.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324613375213621248?s=20
Twitter is out of control, made possible through the government gift of Section 230!
LOL.
His face must be the weirdest mix of red and whatever orange paint they put on it right now.
You know your days as President are numbered when everyone stops sucking up to you and giving you special privileges.
First Fox abandons him, now Twitter.
I wonder when the divorce will happen.
If you're referring to Melania, I give it through July. She has already put up with a ton of his horrid behaviors, so I don't she is going to jump ship any time soon. But I do imagine 8 months of inane ramblings and obsession over election fraud and dead democrats stealing the election will begin to wear on her. The only way they stay together long term is if she goes back to NY and he fucks off to Florida to golf for the rest of his days.
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Breaking news, Biden now has the lead in PA by 5,587 votes and the count is continuing.
Trump needs to win BOTH states of PA and GA to get to 270, and is behind in each of them now.
Not looking good for him.
I guess my 'cheating' vote helped.
Even if he won both, it won't be enough. At this point, all joe needs is Nevada and he wins. Trump could get the others and lose.
That would depend on how the inevitable recounts go.
Recounts rarely flip a decision unless the margin is razor thin. GA? Perhaps. PA? No way.
Usually you get a few hundred votes one way or another. That's not going to flip a 20k lead.
Depends on how many votes are determined to be "illegal" and get tossed.
Plot twist:
A recount reveals Trump voter fraud and Biden has an even bigger lead.
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I'd love to be a fly on the wall in whatever room Trump is melting down in right now.
That Hitler scene from the movie Downfall.... It would look something like that I imagine
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324613375213621248?s=20
Twitter is out of control, made possible through the government gift of Section 230!
LOL.
His face must be the weirdest mix of red and whatever orange paint they put on it right now.
You know your days as President are numbered when everyone stops sucking up to you and giving you special privileges.
First Fox abandons him, now Twitter.
I wonder when the divorce will happen.
I'm watching Fox and I can assure you that they are onboard.
Constant disinformation and airing conspiracy theories about election fraud. All their guests are parroting this same talking point about not letting election monitors in which is a blatant lie. They wouldn't let Rudy Giuliani in to stand directly over them with a pair of binoculars.
Then there's some directive to not refer to Biden as the "president elect". The excuse being that he's not actual the president elect while there's frivolous lawsuits about the election unresolved.
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Then there's some directive to not refer to Biden as the "president elect". The excuse being that he's not actual the president elect while there's frivolous lawsuits about the election unresolved.
I could see waiting until all of the states certify the counts to call him "president elect". But they could still say "presumptive president elect".
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For the obsessed like myself, a live data dump of counts, differentials, and, percent needed to overcome in each battleground State here:
https://digg.com/2020/2020-election-result-swing-states-pennsylvania-georgia
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324613375213621248?s=20
Twitter is out of control, made possible through the government gift of Section 230!
LOL.
His face must be the weirdest mix of red and whatever orange paint they put on it right now.
You know your days as President are numbered when everyone stops sucking up to you and giving you special privileges.
First Fox abandons him, now Twitter.
I wonder when the divorce will happen.
I'm watching Fox and I can assure you that they are onboard.
Constant disinformation and airing conspiracy theories about election fraud. All their guests are parroting this same talking point about not letting election monitors in which is a blatant lie. They wouldn't let Rudy Giuliani in to stand directly over them with a pair of binoculars.
Then there's some directive to not refer to Biden as the "president elect". The excuse being that he's not actual the president elect while there's frivolous lawsuits about the election unresolved.
Dumping Trump doesn't mean suddenly being friendly to Biden. They know that Biden is going to be their cash cow, they will double down on the paranoid conspiracy bullshit and paint him as a devil worshiping socialist communist and their viewers will lap it up.
But Trump... I think they are going to drop him like a hot potato. Without the power of the office, he's back to just being an unreliable, crazy wacko.
And now... he's a loser too. And you know how much Republicans hate losers!
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Until he starts campaigning for 2024.
Don't think he won't. In some ways this is a good outcome for him. He can continue to hold his covid rallies for the next four years.
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They wouldn't let Rudy Giuliani in to stand directly over them with a pair of binoculars.
Yeah, Giuliani who is just Trump's bagman and has no official status whatsoever.
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https://www.npr.org/2020/11/06/931720639/georgia-senate-race-between-david-perdue-and-jon-ossoff-edges-closer-to-a-runoff
Damnit. Just when I thought I could ignore politics for the next 2 years. Two run off elections could determine control of the senate. In my opinion this is a longshot at best.
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I kinda hope the Senate stays Republican majority.
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https://www.npr.org/2020/11/06/931720639/georgia-senate-race-between-david-perdue-and-jon-ossoff-edges-closer-to-a-runoff
Damnit. Just when I thought I could ignore politics for the next 2 years. Two run off elections could determine control of the senate. In my opinion this is a longshot at best.
I need these states to hurry up and finish the count. I can't handle another day of literally everyone on all of my social media complaining about "obvious" voter fraud.
I wonder if those Senate seats will be all or nothing. Like if a Republican wins 1, then odds are the Republican wins the other or vice versa. It wouldn't make much sense to me for it to be split, unless people want to give the Dems the benefit of the 2 years remaining on the one special election candidate just to see what happens.
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I kinda hope the Senate stays Republican majority.
I don't just to see McConnell gone from leadership. That guy needs to go. Even if Dems get control of the Senate, the Republicans in the would still be a moderating force as they would be needed in order to pass legislation.
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Until he starts campaigning for 2024.
Don't think he won't. In some ways this is a good outcome for him. He can continue to hold his covid rallies for the next four years.
The question is, can you run for President from prison?
Once he's out of office he will no longer be protected from legal persecution. There is a whole truckload of legal problems he's facing.
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I kinda hope the Senate stays Republican majority.
If that happens you can forget any progress for the next 4 years.
Nothing on climate change.
No progress for health care.
No immigration reform.
I would like, you know, something to be done about some of the major issues we have. But that's not going to happen if Mitch can just kill every single bill.
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I kinda hope the Senate stays Republican majority.
I don't just to see McConnell gone from leadership. That guy needs to go. Even if Dems get control of the Senate, the Republicans in the would still be a moderating force as they would be needed in order to pass legislation.
I don't understand how someone so obviously bad keeps winning reelection. lol
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I kinda hope the Senate stays Republican majority.
Even if you don't like what the democrats might do with all of congress and the white house I wouldn't worry much about it. 50/50 with Kamallah tie breaking is the slimmest of majorities. They would have to be very cautious in what they passed.
If the republicans keep the senate, which looks extremely likely, I worry that they would block everything without exception just out of spite.
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I kinda hope the Senate stays Republican majority.
I don't just to see McConnell gone from leadership. That guy needs to go. Even if Dems get control of the Senate, the Republicans in the would still be a moderating force as they would be needed in order to pass legislation.
I don't understand how someone so obviously bad keeps winning reelection. lol
Because he has an R in a southern state. Because he claims to be pro-life and pro-gun. Because "fuck libs". Take your pick.
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I kinda hope the Senate stays Republican majority.
Even if you don't like what the democrats might do with all of congress and the white house I wouldn't worry much about it. 50/50 with Kamallah tie breaking is the slimmest of majorities. They would have to be very cautious in what they passed.
If the republicans keep the senate, which looks extremely likely, I worry that they would block everything without exception just out of spite.
Yeah, I'm all for a 50-50 with Kamala as the tie-breaker. As I think a simple majority only applies to the nuclear option for State Fed judge appointments and SCOTUS. Everything else is still 2/3's, right?
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We should all move to Oregon and get jacked up on meth.
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I kinda hope the Senate stays Republican majority.
Even if you don't like what the democrats might do with all of congress and the white house I wouldn't worry much about it. 50/50 with Kamallah tie breaking is the slimmest of majorities. They would have to be very cautious in what they passed.
If the republicans keep the senate, which looks extremely likely, I worry that they would block everything without exception just out of spite.
Yeah, I'm all for a 50-50 with Kamala as the tie-breaker. As I think a simple majority only applies to the nuclear option for State Fed judge appointments and SCOTUS. Everything else is still 2/3's, right?
Not an expert but as far as I know everything that's up to the senate only requires 51 votes. The 2/3's is a consequence of the filibuster. And the filibuster is a perversion of the idea that senators are given as much time as they need to make their case for or against a law. It was never intended to make 2/3 a requirement only to ensure proper deliberation.
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I kinda hope the Senate stays Republican majority.
Yeah, god forbid the dems pass something W O K E
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They'll pass the woke shit, and it won't do a thing for climate change, healthcare, or immigration.
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I don't understand how someone so obviously bad keeps winning reelection. lol
Vote all rascals out. Except for my rascal, of course.
If the republicans keep the senate, which looks extremely likely, I worry that they would block everything without exception just out of spite.
Yeah, it would be the Obama years all over again.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324768077939118083?s=20
Where are the missing military ballots in Georgia? What happened to them?
I thought he wanted them to stop counting? lol
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I kinda hope the Senate stays Republican majority.
Even if you don't like what the democrats might do with all of congress and the white house I wouldn't worry much about it. 50/50 with Kamallah tie breaking is the slimmest of majorities. They would have to be very cautious in what they passed.
If the republicans keep the senate, which looks extremely likely, I worry that they would block everything without exception just out of spite.
Yeah, I'm all for a 50-50 with Kamala as the tie-breaker. As I think a simple majority only applies to the nuclear option for State Fed judge appointments and SCOTUS. Everything else is still 2/3's, right?
Not an expert but as far as I know everything that's up to the senate only requires 51 votes. The 2/3's is a consequence of the filibuster. And the filibuster is a perversion of the idea that senators are given as much time as they need to make their case for or against a law. It was never intended to make 2/3 a requirement only to ensure proper deliberation.
I apparently need to brush up on my civics.
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They'll pass the woke shit, and it won't do a thing for climate change, healthcare, or immigration.
I'd really like to hear your answer to this.
Would you rather they pass woke, climate change, healthcare, and immigration bills?
Or rather they pass none of them?
Will you throw out all chance for any good to prevent anything woke? Is it that bad? Worse than climate change?
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I would rather they not pass anything that will put women and girls in more danger. I doubt they will pass anything that will significantly help with climate change, healthcare, or immigration.
Now I await your huge strawman argument that you will expect me to defend.
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I would rather they not pass anything that will put women and girls in more danger. I doubt they will pass anything that will significantly help with climate change, healthcare, or immigration.
Now I await your huge strawman argument that you will expect me to defend.
I just don't understand what laws you think Democrats will pass that is so dangerous to women you would prefer total gridlock over it.
What is is you are afraid they are going to do?
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Had to come eventually
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Biden has already promised to let men into women's spaces if they identify as a women (or girls). I know many lefty men think women are sacrificial, but a lot of us do not share that belief.
I do prefer gridlock to shit laws that will have to be litigated after enough women are harmed. I realize this is the way. There is no "first do no harm" when it comes to our safety. The Republicans take away our reproductive rights, the Democrats take away everything else.
I'm not going to do all the googling for you but here's just one example https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html
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There's also one other thing a Biden win gives us that a Trump win never would
When Biden leaves the White House when his term is up or is defeated he will show Americans what it means to be gracious and honourable.
Not like this man baby Trump kicking and screaming
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Biden has already promised to let men into women's spaces if they identify as a women (or girls). I know many lefty men think women are sacrificial, but a lot of us do not share that belief.
I do prefer gridlock to shit laws that will have to be litigated after enough women are harmed. I realize this is the way. There is no "first do no harm" when it comes to our safety. The Republicans take away our reproductive rights, the Democrats take away everything else.
I'm not going to do all the googling for you but here's just one example https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html
I'm not aware of Biden saying anything about forcing all bathrooms to become unisex. I don't know of any Democrats at all that think this is a good idea or want to make it a law.
I agree with that article, unisex bathrooms are more dangerous.
I just don't see the clear and present danger here. Biden isn't pushing making single sex bathrooms illegal.
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Trumps presidency is actually showing you all the strength of your democracy.
It's stress testing
It's showing what happens when a man gets and feels too bigly for his own good and tries to hold onto power despite the will of the people
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Biden has already promised to let men into women's spaces if they identify as a women (or girls). I know many lefty men think women are sacrificial, but a lot of us do not share that belief.
I do prefer gridlock to shit laws that will have to be litigated after enough women are harmed. I realize this is the way. There is no "first do no harm" when it comes to our safety. The Republicans take away our reproductive rights, the Democrats take away everything else.
I'm not going to do all the googling for you but here's just one example https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html
Ah, there we go, complaining about trans people again.
Seriously, get off these weird twitter accounts or whatever they are. Like, you're well on the road to become a single issue voter and it is on the stupidest issue ever. It is just out of touch. If you seriously think that this is the most important issue women are facing right now, or even that it is men who are trying to do that (seriously, the women pushing for that stuff or at least aren't dismissive are much more than the men supporting it, look up any poll if you don't want to accept anecdotes, young women, the group supposedly most affected, is by far the most supportive group), sorry, it is just out of touch. It is nonsense. Just unbelievable.
You posted some stats about complaints in unisex changing rooms. This doesn't even have anything to do with trans people. The article admits as much, although it says something about them being on the rise or whatever. Alright, maybe. But again, it has nothing to do with trans people. Unisex changing rooms have existed for a long time and they will continue to exist. And here we're not even talking about unisex changing rooms, merely rooms where trans women can be allowed to enter. I know you think trans women are all violent pedophile rapists, but really, that's just not the case.
Do you know how often young women get sexually harassed? All of my female friends have told me from time to time that they have gotten anything from leered at to physically assaulted in many, many places. But never in unisex bathrooms or whatever, and definitely never by trans people. Seriously, go talk to people. I mean outside the weird Twitter circle jerk. Go talk to people actually being affected by that stuff. You will hear all sorts of complaints. You will hear complaints about bosses being creepy and using their position to be creepy. You will hear about creepy weirdos in public transport. You will hear being attacked by drunk dudes. You will hear about lack of adequate healthcare. You will hear about teachers in schools being terrible creeps (it happens a lot, and I mean A LOT more frequently than many people assume). But you will never, and I mean NEVER hear about the plight that trans people are. "Oh, but they're just not talking about it because they fear retribution" well, that is not the case, but if that's what you believe, then it is literally impossible for something to change your mind.
The worst part is not that you disagree with it. That's not nearly the worst part. Because, you know, maybe some things are not great ideas. Maybe people figure out that there are some problematic parts to this attempt, maybe some things change, maybe better solutions are found. The worst part is the horrible propaganda around the issue, the propaganda that inflates the proportions of the problem to some absurd level, to the point where it leads you and others closer and closer to the groups that are actually very much trying to take women's rights back into the stone age, not to mention all the other terrible things. It is just awful. I don't enjoy fighting with you all the time etc. I really, really don't like it, for real. But to see people get like that is just draining. After 4 years of Trump, the real issue is the "lOoPy LeFt!!1!".
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Maybe We need another thread for unisex woke bathroom nonsense or whatever and leave this one to the election
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I bet she's never, ever, not even once, encountered anything like that in all her life! Solid points. You totally helped explain to that silly woman what the female experience is like.
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Georgia just updated, Biden's lead has increased from 1500 votes to 4267.
Still slim but a much bigger margin. Big enough that a recount isn't going to change anything.
Unless Trump gets the Supreme Court to declare voting for Biden is unconstitutional. Sadly, there is a non-zero risk of that.
PA's lead is just under 15k and increasing, not likely to lose that one either at this point.
Nevada is solid.
Arizona... still could go either way. I expect the margin to go way down but not flip. But it's really a toss up still. Will know more in 4 hours when AZ reports in again.
So looking very confident for Biden to hit 295, and even 304 if AZ goes for him. A landslide, according to Trump. :)
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Georgia's not quite a done deal.
https://www.onlineathens.com/news/20201106/election-results-how-many-military-absentee-ballots-are-left-to-count-in-georgia
There appears to be 8900 overseas ballots that haven't been counted yet. If those are heavily in favor in Trump then that could turn it around.
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So looking very confident for Biden to hit 295, and even 304 if AZ goes for him. A landslide, according to Trump. :)
Definitely good news about GA. And I think the 304 should be 306, right? AZ is 11 EC votes. Regardless, hopefully we have some relief in the next couple days. Short-lived as it may be, since there are law suits and recounts on the horizon.
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Georgia just updated, Biden's lead has increased from 1500 votes to 4267.
Still slim but a much bigger margin. Big enough that a recount isn't going to change anything.
Apparantly they are still waiting for the military votes to be delivered and they usually vote republican
But after Trumps trashing of people who serve, the fallen as 'losers' and the top brass quite vocal in thinking he's an idiot, all bets are off. Could go either way
They have till end of Friday to arrive I believe
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So looking very confident for Biden to hit 295, and even 304 if AZ goes for him. A landslide, according to Trump. :)
Definitely good news about GA. And I think the 304 should be 306, right? AZ is 11 EC votes. Regardless, hopefully we have some relief in the next couple days. Short-lived as it may be, since there are law suits and recounts on the horizon.
Alaska written off? I think the democrat there was super confident for a win as the remaining to be counted were postal votes (although looking at the numbers Biden would need near 100% of those).
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Georgia's not quite a done deal.
https://www.onlineathens.com/news/20201106/election-results-how-many-military-absentee-ballots-are-left-to-count-in-georgia
There appears to be 8900 overseas ballots that haven't been counted yet. If those are heavily in favor in Trump then that could turn it around.
Those certainly are going to be interesting. We don't know how many of those are military and how many are civilian.
For Trump to break even, those votes need to break down 6500 for Trump and 2500 for Biden. The military generally votes a 60% / 40% split between Republican and Democrat so if those are all military they could erase Bidens lead, ignoring any more gains he might make in the meantime.
The article says they have until Friday to count them, so we should know tonight.
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So looking very confident for Biden to hit 295, and even 304 if AZ goes for him. A landslide, according to Trump. :)
Definitely good news about GA. And I think the 304 should be 306, right? AZ is 11 EC votes. Regardless, hopefully we have some relief in the next couple days. Short-lived as it may be, since there are law suits and recounts on the horizon.
Alaska written off? I think the democrat there was super confident for a win as the remaining to be counted were postal votes (although looking at the numbers Biden would need near 100% of those).
I can't imagine Alaska ends up in the Biden column. It'd be neat if it did, don't get me wrong, but I've had those EC votes earmarked for Trump all along in my own estimation.
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Maybe it's time for Trump to sign an executive order declaring himself the winner.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/20/trump-threatens-to-issue-executive-order-preventing-biden-from-being-elected-president/?sh=9e477a676f6e
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So looking very confident for Biden to hit 295, and even 304 if AZ goes for him. A landslide, according to Trump. :)
Definitely good news about GA. And I think the 304 should be 306, right? AZ is 11 EC votes. Regardless, hopefully we have some relief in the next couple days. Short-lived as it may be, since there are law suits and recounts on the horizon.
Alaska written off? I think the democrat there was super confident for a win as the remaining to be counted were postal votes (although looking at the numbers Biden would need near 100% of those).
I just don't see Biden pulling off Alaska. It's still mathematically possible but not likely.
By my estimate Alaska has 128k outstanding votes. Biden would need, 90k of those to Trump's 38k.
Well, more complicated when you factor in Jesse Ventura and Jo Jorgensen's combined 6,000 votes.
WTF Alaska? I guess they know that nobody cares about their 3 electoral votes so they just throw in for whoever. :)
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https://twitter.com/_gh0stn/status/1324801623781122048
Must watch - Avengers end game spoof uding Biden as Captain America and Trump as Thanos lol
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Biden has already promised to let men into women's spaces if they identify as a women (or girls). I know many lefty men think women are sacrificial, but a lot of us do not share that belief.
I do prefer gridlock to shit laws that will have to be litigated after enough women are harmed. I realize this is the way. There is no "first do no harm" when it comes to our safety. The Republicans take away our reproductive rights, the Democrats take away everything else.
I'm not going to do all the googling for you but here's just one example https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html
I'm not aware of Biden saying anything about forcing all bathrooms to become unisex. I don't know of any Democrats at all that think this is a good idea or want to make it a law.
I agree with that article, unisex bathrooms are more dangerous.
I just don't see the clear and present danger here. Biden isn't pushing making single sex bathrooms illegal.
He has promised to make public school bathrooms, sports, and locker rooms single sex. That is what this means. Girls do not have a right to privacy or safety.
From his website -
On his first day in office, Biden will reinstate the Obama-Biden guidance revoked by the Trump-Pence Administration, which will restore transgender students’ access to sports, bathrooms, and locker rooms in accordance with their gender identity. He will direct his Department of Education to vigorously enforce and investigate violations of transgender students’ civil rights.
Notice, he is not directing the Department of Education to vigorously investigate violations of girls' civil rights.
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Stop being weird and creepy, space cow girl.
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https://twitter.com/_gh0stn/status/1324801623781122048
Must watch - Avengers end game spoof uding Biden as Captain America and Trump as Thanos lol
Oh god! it's the perfect amount of stupid to speak to the trumpian intellect. I'm really fighting the urge to post it on Facebook just to fuck with people.
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Biden has already promised to let men into women's spaces if they identify as a women (or girls). I know many lefty men think women are sacrificial, but a lot of us do not share that belief.
I do prefer gridlock to shit laws that will have to be litigated after enough women are harmed. I realize this is the way. There is no "first do no harm" when it comes to our safety. The Republicans take away our reproductive rights, the Democrats take away everything else.
I'm not going to do all the googling for you but here's just one example https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html
I'm not aware of Biden saying anything about forcing all bathrooms to become unisex. I don't know of any Democrats at all that think this is a good idea or want to make it a law.
I agree with that article, unisex bathrooms are more dangerous.
I just don't see the clear and present danger here. Biden isn't pushing making single sex bathrooms illegal.
He has promised to make public school bathrooms, sports, and locker rooms single sex. That is what this means. Girls do not have a right to privacy or safety.
From his website -
On his first day in office, Biden will reinstate the Obama-Biden guidance revoked by the Trump-Pence Administration, which will restore transgender students’ access to sports, bathrooms, and locker rooms in accordance with their gender identity. He will direct his Department of Education to vigorously enforce and investigate violations of transgender students’ civil rights.
This is not at all the same issue as the article you linked. That article was discussing fully unisex bathrooms and the rates of attacks vs gendered bathrooms.
Biden is talking about allowing trans men and women to use the bathrooms of their choice. There is no evidence that trans men and women are sexual predators or pose any danger. Attacks on trans men and women by 'normal' genders are far more common, and part of letting them use the bathroom they identify as is to avoid those.
Notice, he is not directing the Department of Education to vigorously investigate violations of girls' civil rights.
Not everyone thinks a transitioned woman isn't a girl.
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If this were a normal election PA would have been called for Biden and he'd have the over 270 votes needed to be officially declared the winner (at least by the media like some did with Arizona)
Seems no 1 state wants to shoulder the responsibility for triggering the Trumptardians so we have to wait for multiple states to make it a done deal
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If this were a normal election PA would have been called for Biden and he'd have the over 270 votes needed to be officially declared the winner (at least by the media like some did with Arizona)
Seems no 1 state wants to shoulder the responsibility for triggering the Trumptardians so we have to wait for multiple states to make it a done deal
Nobody wants armed Trump trains driving around rioting in their state.
Maybe they will all announce at once. Or better, make up a fake state and blame that. I can't imagine most Trump votes noticing.
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Biden has already promised to let men into women's spaces if they identify as a women (or girls). I know many lefty men think women are sacrificial, but a lot of us do not share that belief.
I do prefer gridlock to shit laws that will have to be litigated after enough women are harmed. I realize this is the way. There is no "first do no harm" when it comes to our safety. The Republicans take away our reproductive rights, the Democrats take away everything else.
I'm not going to do all the googling for you but here's just one example https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html
I'm not aware of Biden saying anything about forcing all bathrooms to become unisex. I don't know of any Democrats at all that think this is a good idea or want to make it a law.
I agree with that article, unisex bathrooms are more dangerous.
I just don't see the clear and present danger here. Biden isn't pushing making single sex bathrooms illegal.
He has promised to make public school bathrooms, sports, and locker rooms single sex. That is what this means. Girls do not have a right to privacy or safety.
From his website -
On his first day in office, Biden will reinstate the Obama-Biden guidance revoked by the Trump-Pence Administration, which will restore transgender students’ access to sports, bathrooms, and locker rooms in accordance with their gender identity. He will direct his Department of Education to vigorously enforce and investigate violations of transgender students’ civil rights.
This is not at all the same issue as the article you linked. That article was discussing fully unisex bathrooms and the rates of attacks vs gendered bathrooms.
Biden is talking about allowing trans men and women to use the bathrooms of their choice. There is no evidence that trans men and women are sexual predators or pose any danger. Attacks on trans men and women by 'normal' genders are far more common, and part of letting them use the bathroom they identify as is to avoid those.
Notice, he is not directing the Department of Education to vigorously investigate violations of girls' civil rights.
Not everyone thinks a transitioned woman isn't a girl.
If you're a burly bloke with a hairy nutsack that still stands up to piss then walking into a woman's bathroom should be seen as invading women's safe spaces
If you're a trans man whose had the chop and you got the bags of saline in your chest and look every part the woman, go ahead. I doubt any man would go through that just to get their rocks off at a woman doing her make up in the mirror (I assume the actual toilets are still private and partitioned)
Anyway, seriously let's make fun of Trump on this thread and congrats to Biden.
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If this were a normal election PA would have been called for Biden and he'd have the over 270 votes needed to be officially declared the winner (at least by the media like some did with Arizona)
Seems no 1 state wants to shoulder the responsibility for triggering the Trumptardians so we have to wait for multiple states to make it a done deal
The various news outlets informally declare states. The actual certification doesn't happen until December I think.
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Biden has already promised to let men into women's spaces if they identify as a women (or girls). I know many lefty men think women are sacrificial, but a lot of us do not share that belief.
I do prefer gridlock to shit laws that will have to be litigated after enough women are harmed. I realize this is the way. There is no "first do no harm" when it comes to our safety. The Republicans take away our reproductive rights, the Democrats take away everything else.
I'm not going to do all the googling for you but here's just one example https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html
I'm not aware of Biden saying anything about forcing all bathrooms to become unisex. I don't know of any Democrats at all that think this is a good idea or want to make it a law.
I agree with that article, unisex bathrooms are more dangerous.
I just don't see the clear and present danger here. Biden isn't pushing making single sex bathrooms illegal.
He has promised to make public school bathrooms, sports, and locker rooms single sex. That is what this means. Girls do not have a right to privacy or safety.
From his website -
On his first day in office, Biden will reinstate the Obama-Biden guidance revoked by the Trump-Pence Administration, which will restore transgender students’ access to sports, bathrooms, and locker rooms in accordance with their gender identity. He will direct his Department of Education to vigorously enforce and investigate violations of transgender students’ civil rights.
This is not at all the same issue as the article you linked. That article was discussing fully unisex bathrooms and the rates of attacks vs gendered bathrooms.
Biden is talking about allowing trans men and women to use the bathrooms of their choice. There is no evidence that trans men and women are sexual predators or pose any danger. Attacks on trans men and women by 'normal' genders are far more common, and part of letting them use the bathroom they identify as is to avoid those.
Notice, he is not directing the Department of Education to vigorously investigate violations of girls' civil rights.
Not everyone thinks a transitioned woman isn't a girl.
What, a woman is an adult, a girl is a child.
Look, I'm not saying all trans women are sexual predators, but they are sexual predators at the same rate as other men. Transitioning does not change that.
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https://twitter.com/_gh0stn/status/1324801623781122048
Must watch - Avengers end game spoof uding Biden as Captain America and Trump as Thanos lol
Oh god! it's the perfect amount of stupid to speak to the trumpian intellect. I'm really fighting the urge to post it on Facebook just to fuck with people.
Greta = Ironman...Awesome!
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https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-11-06/man-who-threatened-to-do-a-mass-shooter-on-democrats-if-biden-wins-in-custody
"L.A.-area man who allegedly threatened mass shooting if Biden won is held, sources say"
Well, if they arrested him that means the threat is real and Biden has won. Stop counting! :)
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Is that the one they found Qanon stuff and an AR15 in his car?
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ELECTION THEFT Of The Century | Rudy Giuliani | Ep. 84
I'm going to try to watch the whole thing!
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Switched off in 2 minutes. He forgets the fact that Trump told his followers to NOT use the postal vote. Dems did not care for the advice and used the postal vote.
So 'common sense' would dictate that votes made on the day in polling booths would favour repugnican and votes by mail would be mostly democrat votes
Perhaps Rudy's been sleeping under a bridge for the past year but a deadly and highly contagious pandemic has been ravaging the US so that's why people wanted to vote by mail as is their right and allowable by law
When you add a highly polarising president like Trump and the mistake the dems realised from the last election (too lazy to vote) you will have them vote in droves
They did for Trump too. Almost 70 million. And a few extra million for Biden.
Trump screwed himself with quotes WELL BEFORE the election or voting even started with shit like 'if I don't win the election it's rigged'
How is anyone supposed to lend any weight to his baseless claims of fraud? Voting for Biden isn't cheating.
What a dumbarse. Trump and Rudy.
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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/11/06/politics/bonnie-glick-ousted-usaid/index.html?__twitter_impression=true
Purge has started
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Shifter, I encourage you to give that video another chance. Not only are there some superb Rudy G product endorsements sprinkled in (including a cigar infomercial that is to die for), but the actual content is just hilarious from beginning to end. And watch his hands! He's covered in ink for some weird reason. 100% worth the watch.
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Shifter, I encourage you to give that video another chance. Not only are there some superb Rudy G product endorsements sprinkled in (including a cigar infomercial that is to die for), but the actual content is just hilarious from beginning to end. And watch his hands! He's covered in ink for some weird reason. 100% worth the watch.
Lol alright. I'll do it during a night shift at work next week so there's not almost 18 minutes of my life I wish I got back!
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We are building up to the Trump 2020 season finale. I've seen the trailers and it looks like an exciting cliffhanger is coming up.
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Shifter, I encourage you to give that video another chance. Not only are there some superb Rudy G product endorsements sprinkled in (including a cigar infomercial that is to die for), but the actual content is just hilarious from beginning to end. And watch his hands! He's covered in ink for some weird reason. 100% worth the watch.
LOL, I skimmed it, and it was comedy gold. Funny side effect is that now my youtube feed is filled with Tucker Carlson crap.... That's how they recruit and radicalize the gullible.
BTW... Mark Meadows has Covid-19, kinda puts a dampener on whoever was at the white house election night party.
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Shifter, I encourage you to give that video another chance. Not only are there some superb Rudy G product endorsements sprinkled in (including a cigar infomercial that is to die for), but the actual content is just hilarious from beginning to end. And watch his hands! He's covered in ink for some weird reason. 100% worth the watch.
LOL, I skimmed it, and it was comedy gold. Funny side effect is that now my youtube feed is filled with Tucker Carlson crap.... That's how they recruit and radicalize the gullible.
BTW... Mark Meadows has Covid-19, kinda puts a dampener on whoever was at the white house election night party.
Delete it from your viewing history to fix that. Also the deep state is going to flag you
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https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-biden-election-results-11-05-20/h_45e3f9c5aabc500dff82d789926cacf0
When the judge pressed the Trump campaign lawyer if there were observers in the room from the campaign, the lawyer, Jerome Marcus, said, “There’s a non-zero number of people in the room.”
WTF kind of answer is this? You'd think they'd come prepared lololol
They are getting mocked and laughed out of court.
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https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-biden-election-results-11-05-20/h_45e3f9c5aabc500dff82d789926cacf0
When the judge pressed the Trump campaign lawyer if there were observers in the room from the campaign, the lawyer, Jerome Marcus, said, “There’s a non-zero number of people in the room.”
WTF kind of answer is this? You'd think they'd come prepared lololol
They are getting mocked and laughed out of court.
This is the most meme worthy thing so far. You can apply it to literally everything-
I had a non-zero number of beers last night. There’s a non-zero number of fat orange PoS in the White House.
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https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-biden-election-results-11-05-20/h_45e3f9c5aabc500dff82d789926cacf0
When the judge pressed the Trump campaign lawyer if there were observers in the room from the campaign, the lawyer, Jerome Marcus, said, “There’s a non-zero number of people in the room.”
WTF kind of answer is this? You'd think they'd come prepared lololol
They are getting mocked and laughed out of court.
This is the most meme worthy thing so far. You can apply it to literally everything-
I had a non-zero number of beers last night. There’s a non-zero number of fat orange PoS in the White House.
Joe Biden is winning by a Non-Zero amount!
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Its truly scary how quickly people (even self declared defenders of freedom and democracy like bom tishop) totally abandon democracy simply to get what they want.
These people should take a break, sit down and reflect on what they are doing and promoting.
I just cant wrap my head around that people would rather lose their democracy than ONE election. Especially considering that biden is really not a radical leftist, he's quite close to center in the international comparison.
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Things are continuing to look good for Biden this morning.
GA: He increased his lead from 4000 to 7000 votes. Still lots of military ballots to process, but those 3000 votes makes it harder to flip.
PA: A modest increase from 20k votes to 30k votes. With 100,000 votes left it's still possible for it to flip but much like GA, it's looking less and less likely. The remaining votes need to pull VERY hard to Trump. Possible as many are provisional, but it will need to be a massive swing.
NV: Not much risk here, Biden's lead has increased steadily and no indication there are any caches of Trump votes yet to be counted.
AZ: Still up in the air, but to me it's looking more and more likely Biden will retain his lead. But that could just be hopefull thinking on my part. Honestly it could go either way.
NC: Trump continues to increase his lead, I don't know why they haven't called this one for Trump days ago. I see no chance for Biden. I am counting this as decided.
AK: Oh Alaska. Does nobody care about you? It's going to go Trump. Tiny chance Biden takes the lead, again it's POSSIBLE but I would bet my entire retirement fund on it going to Trump. Not that it matters, no matter what it won't change Trumps chances.
Electoral college situation is still the same. Only two ways Trump can win.
1. PA, GA, NV
2. PA, GA, AZ
Alaska doesn't matter, no combinations are short by 3 votes. (Well, Biden could win if he ONLY got GA and AK I suppose.)
PA and GA are must-wins for Trump. Trump has to have both of these. Then he has to win NV or AZ.
Slim. Not zero, but getting closer.
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I find this link helpful
https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html
It says what % if votes they are getting vs what they need to win. In all of Bidens leads, Trump isn't getting enough (for now)
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Here it is, folks. The first evidence of fraudulent ballots being attempted to be delivered. But there's a plot twist. These ballots were being delivered by armed, Hummer-driving, QAnon-supporting gentlemen that were flying a giant flag off the back of their Hummer. Gee, I wonder who they might have been trying to help?
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/11/06/joshua-macia-antonio-lamotta-found-outside-pennsylvania-convention-center-charged-as-police-investigate-threat-of-attack/
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Your country is insane
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Here it is, folks. The first evidence of fraudulent ballots being attempted to be delivered. But there's a plot twist. These ballots were being delivered by armed armed, Hummer-driving, QAnon-supporting gentlemen that were flying a giant flag off the back of their Hummer. Gee, I wonder who they might have been trying to help?
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/11/06/joshua-macia-antonio-lamotta-found-outside-pennsylvania-convention-center-charged-as-police-investigate-threat-of-attack/
“coming to deliver a truck full of fake ballots to Philly.”
???
What was the plan? To march in and force people to count their ballots at gun point? It’s not very subtle. I suspect they would have been overturned, even if they had gotten that far.
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Your country is insane
No argument here.
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https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324807776510595078?s=20
Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future
AOC tweeted this yesterday, they're already making the list. lol https://www.trumpaccountability.net/
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Here it is, folks. The first evidence of fraudulent ballots being attempted to be delivered. But there's a plot twist. These ballots were being delivered by armed, Hummer-driving, QAnon-supporting gentlemen that were flying a giant flag off the back of their Hummer. Gee, I wonder who they might have been trying to help?
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/11/06/joshua-macia-antonio-lamotta-found-outside-pennsylvania-convention-center-charged-as-police-investigate-threat-of-attack/
Depends. Was it an electric hummer?
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Nevada is still at 87%, COME ON GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER. Yesterday they quit counting and went home, said they'd update again at noon today.
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So apparently Trump is gearing up for a press conference at “Four Seasons Total Landscaping” in Philadelphia. Eh?
Their Google reviews just went absolutely nuts, such as:
Positive: Professionalism
My good bud Donnie uses them, here is what he said “This was the most perfect landscaping I’ve ever had, and as everyone knows my lawn was huge, couldn’t have been a more perfect landscaping. They even complimented me on having the greenest grass they’ve ever seen - everyone knows I have really green grass. Even allowed me to do a press conference at their office and told me it was the most amazing press conference at a landscaping office they had ever seen. No dems have good lawns so they aren’t allowed, sad!”
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Here it is, folks. The first evidence of fraudulent ballots being attempted to be delivered. But there's a plot twist. These ballots were being delivered by armed, Hummer-driving, QAnon-supporting gentlemen that were flying a giant flag off the back of their Hummer. Gee, I wonder who they might have been trying to help?
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/11/06/joshua-macia-antonio-lamotta-found-outside-pennsylvania-convention-center-charged-as-police-investigate-threat-of-attack/
Depends. Was it an electric hummer?
It's a gas guzzler.
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Nevada is still at 87%, COME ON GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER. Yesterday they quit counting and went home, said they'd update again at noon today.
Arizona just posted about 40k more votes a few minutes ago, and Trump closed the gap a little bit. Biden's 28k vote lead is down to 20.5k there right now. I wonder if that's the rest of Maricopa county, or if there still might be more from that county.
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AP just called it for Biden!
https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1325112826072084480?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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ABC News is calling the election for Biden on TV right now, they are saying he won PA
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At long fucking last
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And Joe Biden takes it home with Pennsylvania. Declared the winner with 284 electoral college votes!
Well down Joe 8)
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I'd still love to see AZ, GA, and NV also give him an even stronger Electoral College victory
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Yeah, trump got absolutely demolished.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1325099845045071873?s=20
I WON THIS ELECTION, BY A LOT!
lol
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How many news outlets are going to run with the headline “You’re Fired”?
I’m guessing lots.
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Fox News and the Washington post have also called it!
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Still not official... but Trumps chances are so astronomically low that even the press, which got EVERYTHING wrong about the entire election so far, feels safe in calling it.
Now we wait and see if Trump can lawyer his way out of this one. Or just declare himself emperor or something.
Trump... YOU'RE FIRED! ;D
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B-b-but lawsuits... recounts... stop the count... count every vote...
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1325099845045071873?s=20
I WON THIS ELECTION, BY A LOT!
lol
(https://i.ibb.co/qDvHNhm/Screenshot-20201107-183258.jpg)
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Looks like they finally called Nevada for Biden.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1325099845045071873?s=20
I WON THIS ELECTION, BY A LOT!
lol
(https://i.ibb.co/qDvHNhm/Screenshot-20201107-183258.jpg)
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
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Hahahah... watch Rudy fumble with the mic before he starts to babble and ramble incoherently.
The only thing that could have made that more hilarious would be some feedback whining to go with his tears.
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Hahahah... watch Rudy fumble with the mic before he starts to babble and ramble incoherently.
The only thing that could have made that more hilarious would be some feedback whining to go with his tears.
Rudy: Massive voter fraud! We know dead people voted! Let me offer proof!
Random black guy: I was watching the polls as a poll watcher and they didn't let me take pictures or video or even look at the ballots.
Other random guy: *same stuff*
I'm like: Wait. You mean they don't want random people to read ballots when they aren't counters? Amazing!
But seriously, Rudy has nothing. He makes claims with no evidence and parades out people who are upset that votes are being protected from spying eyes. Oh and voter fraud only happened in places Biden won. Go figure, right?
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Terrible just terrible.
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Hahahah... watch Rudy fumble with the mic before he starts to babble and ramble incoherently.
The only thing that could have made that more hilarious would be some feedback whining to go with his tears.
Rudy: Massive voter fraud! We know dead people voted! Let me offer proof!
Random black guy: I was watching the polls as a poll watcher and they didn't let me take pictures or video or even look at the ballots.
Other random guy: *same stuff*
I'm like: Wait. You mean they don't want random people to read ballots when they aren't counters? Amazing!
But seriously, Rudy has nothing. He makes claims with no evidence and parades out people who are upset that votes are being protected from spying eyes. Oh and voter fraud only happened in places Biden won. Go figure, right?
Apparently the presser was in front of the Four Seasons. Not the Hotel, but Four Seasons Total Landscaping. 2 Doors down from "Fantasy Island Adult Book and Video Store". Probably would have been more appropriate to have had it there:
(https://i.imgur.com/ckmn1HC.png)
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Hahahah... watch Rudy fumble with the mic before he starts to babble and ramble incoherently.
The only thing that could have made that more hilarious would be some feedback whining to go with his tears.
I think we can make that more hilarious for you.
While Rudy is out continuing with the unfounded allegations, Trump is playing golf by himself.
https://mobile.twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1325131404422778888
Seems he does have a bit of self awareness after all. He knows he’s totally screwed.
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Lincoln Project has a new one.
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I wonder if the Lincoln Project is just going to shut down now. They're not at all pro democrat or anything, just anti-trump.
Also, lost in all this noise, the first female vice president. So that's an interesting milestone.
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Oh yeah, I don't even see much of that on Twitter. You'd think the feminists would be making some noise about the first black female VP.
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Oh yeah, I don't even see much of that on Twitter. You'd think the feminists would be making some noise about the first black female VP.
Probably because being VP isn't a lot to get excited about.
Like celebrating the first woman to win the New Hampshire chili-dog eating contest.
It's a technical milestone but not of much immediate value.
Now... if Biden were to leave office for reasons, then it would become a big deal.
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Oh yeah, I don't even see much of that on Twitter. You'd think the feminists would be making some noise about the first black female VP.
Probably because being VP isn't a lot to get excited about.
Like celebrating the first woman to win the New Hampshire chili-dog eating contest.
It's a technical milestone but not of much immediate value.
Now... if Biden were to leave office for reasons, then it would become a big deal.
I kinda think the odds of Harris being president in the next 4 years are pretty high.
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Everyone keeps saying that, but I don't see it happening. Biden doesn't appear to be on deaths door and he isn't nearly as senile as the last president.
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Everyone keeps saying that, but I don't see it happening. Biden doesn't appear to be on deaths door and he isn't nearly as senile as the last president.
No, he's not about to keel over but in four years he will be 82. That's old to run a grueling campaign any way you put it. He might just decide he's had enough and let someone else deal with all the messes. There are a number of good options if that happens.
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Trump's triumphant return to the White House!
Clutching his phone with a death grip.
(https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/653e1353-bb01-4aee-821d-4fea78626acd.jpg)
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Trump is almost as old and is morbidly obese. I'd say his life expentency is lower than Bidens
For 77 Biden isn't as bad as advertised. The guy has a speech impediment which is ever present.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/accessibility/471707-how-joe-bidens-gaffes-have-affected-his-campaign-and
Props to him for achieving what he has
I'd rather someone who stammers than a guy who only has maybe 50 words in his vocabulary
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Oh yeah, I don't even see much of that on Twitter. You'd think the feminists would be making some noise about the first black female VP.
Probably because being VP isn't a lot to get excited about.
Like celebrating the first woman to win the New Hampshire chili-dog eating contest.
It's a technical milestone but not of much immediate value.
Now... if Biden were to leave office for reasons, then it would become a big deal.
You're crazy. Being the first female VP is a huge deal.
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Oh yeah, I don't even see much of that on Twitter. You'd think the feminists would be making some noise about the first black female VP.
Probably because being VP isn't a lot to get excited about.
Like celebrating the first woman to win the New Hampshire chili-dog eating contest.
It's a technical milestone but not of much immediate value.
Now... if Biden were to leave office for reasons, then it would become a big deal.
You're crazy. Being the first female VP is a huge deal.
It's a big deal as far as being a first, just not a big deal in terms of actual power. VP's don't really get to DO much.
If she gets to be the tie-breaking vote though, that would be a big deal. Could be the first VP in a while to wield real power.
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Trump's triumphant return to the White House!
Clutching his phone with a death grip.
(https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/653e1353-bb01-4aee-821d-4fea78626acd.jpg)
I am anxiously awaiting his triumphant reelection speech.
I'm guessing he'll schedule it for the same time as Biden's speech.
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(https://i.ibb.co/cywmRGs/fes.png)
Trump is in his jammies angry tweeting again.
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https://twitter.com/realGulDukat?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Gul Dukat is really dropping the ball by not including the disclaimer from twitter on all his tweets.
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This one from yesterday was my favorite https://twitter.com/realGulDukat/status/1324793068374077441?s=20
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This one from yesterday was my favorite https://twitter.com/realGulDukat/status/1324793068374077441?s=20
Hahaha that's gold
I know that lots of alien races in star trek mirrored some of those on Earth. Who would have though the Cardassians were inspired by Americans hehe
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Gul Dukat as Trump has been great. Makes me hope Trump gets a TV show and doesn't get kicked off Twitter.
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Apparently the presser was in front of the Four Seasons. Not the Hotel, but Four Seasons Total Landscaping. 2 Doors down from "Fantasy Island Adult Book and Video Store".
What the fuck is going on? Do they think they are in an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia?
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For those that think a Biden victory is the end of the world
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Apparently the presser was in front of the Four Seasons. Not the Hotel, but Four Seasons Total Landscaping. 2 Doors down from "Fantasy Island Adult Book and Video Store". Probably would have been more appropriate to have had it there:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmPZu-YW4AI3pMk?format=jpg&name=small)
They had a special running on dildoes as well as specials on "dvd's and lotions" Seems like an appropriate place for the final Trump press conference. Also the Delaware Crematorium was across the road.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Trump-lawyers-vow-fight-is-not-over-in-Philly-and-15709837.php
https://twitter.com/Stone_SkyNews/status/1325097321462460418
I suspect the Trump team got trolled by someone in Philly, bigtime. Maybe one day we will get to hear the real story.
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I love this comment from a Trumptard about that picture of Trump golfing while Biden was announced the winner.
"Trump went golfing this morning when he knew the media was likely to call for Biden. Show of strength and confidence."
Yes... such a strong, confident man, who got back and started whining about how he didn't really lose.
How do they see this guy and think he's anything but a thin-skinned crybaby who can throw insults but can't handle criticism?
Or... gasp... losing!
But then again, these are the same people who are still upset they lost the Civil War so, go figure.
(https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2020/11/Screen-Shot-2020-11-07-at-1.57.33-PM.png)
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My brother, who is apparently a trump supporter, is posting shit about the election being stolen constantly on facebook. It looks like facebook is doing the same sort of light censoring that twitter is doing because a bunch of them are labelled with disclaimers that basically say they're nonsense.
A lot of trump supporters are taking this very hard. I'm surprised there haven't been riots yet.
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I have an insane brother in law who got banned from Facebook for threatening to go somewhere with guns. I don't have a Facebook so I didn't get to witness this meltdown.
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What I noticed about all of this was how unattached to reality Trump supporters are.
Biden Supporters: It's gonna be a landslide! Oh fuck, we gonna lose, again! Wait, it's going to be close... fingers crossed, come on!
Trump Supporters: We will win! We are winning! We won, but the Democrats are trying to steal the election! Trump will win in the courts now! This will all be overturned!
I never see Trump supporters ever showing doubt, their belief and faith is unshakable by mere facts. Some are saying Trump is LETTING the Democrats cheat so he can all at once sweep the corruption up, destroying the Democratic party once and for all. It's all an act, Trump has it under control and has already won.
Crazy. Literally crazy. They just can't accept reality.
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I have an insane brother in law who got banned from Facebook for threatening to go somewhere with guns. I don't have a Facebook so I didn't get to witness this meltdown.
You don't have a Facebook?
I am envious. That's a whole world of stress you get to avoid.
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I use Facebook just to share baby pictures. There's also a few facebook groups like Victorian House and Abandoned Beauties that show really cool pictures old castles and mansions.
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When Facebook first existed I thought it was just like myspace, so I didn't get one. Then Facebook started encouraging people to post all the details of their lives (Google did too) and I knew something was fishy about them.
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The speeches are good.
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The speeches are good.
He's not making fun of disabled people, praising racists, or talking about how great and awesome he is and how awful everyone else is.
Low bar.
I can't believe I'm happy about a speech that just... a normal political speech. Amazing how good it feels.
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(https://i.ibb.co/sW5bv8G/spinster1.png)
lol
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Wow, anyone see the reaction to the confetti cannon go off after the acceptance speech?
Whoever failed to WARN everyone that there would be a loud, explosive POP going off right in front of them needs to be fired.
Going to be a viral moment for sure. There were some very scared looks for a few seconds there.
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I was mentioning that on the internet elsewhere! It definitely was a panic-inducing moment for everyone on the stage, and I thought Joe looked like he definitely thought it was a gun shot and was just waiting to see who the bullet landed in.
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Well, I've got a gallon of gas and some matches . . . time to go full Democrat. ;D
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The most important question now is, how long will it take biden to start one (or multiple) wars? Who will get 'freedomed' next?
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Well, I've got a gallon of gas and some matches . . . time to go full Democrat. ;D
Sequester your fossil fuels and electrolise some hydrogen instead.
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Well, I've got a gallon of gas and some matches . . . time to go full Democrat. ;D
Tut tut... no fossil fuels allowed. Only wind and solar.
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The most important question now is, how long will it take biden to start one (or multiple) wars? Who will get 'freedomed' next?
Statistically speaking, he'll start the first one after 1 year and 7 months.
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The most important question now is, how long will it take biden to start one (or multiple) wars? Who will get 'freedomed' next?
Statistically speaking, he'll start the first one after 1 year and 7 months.
Is that a first term President stat? I actually wouldn't be surprised. Though Biden has never really struck me as the hawkish type.
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The most important question now is, how long will it take biden to start one (or multiple) wars? Who will get 'freedomed' next?
Statistically speaking, he'll start the first one after 1 year and 7 months.
Is that a first term President stat? I actually wouldn't be surprised. Though Biden has never really struck me as the hawkish type.
No, I've read that biden agreed to start 5 wars during thr 8 yrs as vize president, thus one war each year and 7 months.
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The most important question now is, how long will it take biden to start one (or multiple) wars? Who will get 'freedomed' next?
Statistically speaking, he'll start the first one after 1 year and 7 months.
Is that a first term President stat? I actually wouldn't be surprised. Though Biden has never really struck me as the hawkish type.
No, I've read that biden agreed to start 5 wars during thr 8 yrs as vize president, thus one war each year and 7 months.
Mostly true, but like a lot of these things, quite nuanced and needs clarification:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/26/rand-paul/fact-checking-rand-paul-joe-biden-and-support-wars/
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The most important question now is, how long will it take biden to start one (or multiple) wars? Who will get 'freedomed' next?
Statistically speaking, he'll start the first one after 1 year and 7 months.
Is that a first term President stat? I actually wouldn't be surprised. Though Biden has never really struck me as the hawkish type.
No, I've read that biden agreed to start 5 wars during thr 8 yrs as vize president, thus one war each year and 7 months.
"Agreed" to start 5 wars? What does that even mean? The veep has no power, nobody has to get their agreement for anything.
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The most important question now is, how long will it take biden to start one (or multiple) wars? Who will get 'freedomed' next?
Statistically speaking, he'll start the first one after 1 year and 7 months.
Is that a first term President stat? I actually wouldn't be surprised. Though Biden has never really struck me as the hawkish type.
No, I've read that biden agreed to start 5 wars during thr 8 yrs as vize president, thus one war each year and 7 months.
"Agreed" to start 5 wars? What does that even mean? The veep has no power, nobody has to get their agreement for anything.
He was fine with / agreed to / supported 5 wars. Choose whatever word you want, libtard.
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The Trumptards are really digging in their heels now.
Mathematicians scrutinized Biden's victory in PA and identified significant questionable irregularities in some counties as compared to others:
https://thenationalpulse.com/politics/pennsylvania-vote-anomalies/ "
I read through that article. They claim 'maths people' said Biden winning was the same as flipping heads 100 times in a row.
Hahaha. To put that in perspective, the chances of that are 0.000000000000000000000000000078886%. Or to put it another way, 1 in 1,267,650,600,228,229,401,496,703,205,376.
So yeah, a bit of hyperbole here. ::)
Then they say this.
"For example, Biden, who bizarrely beat Barack Obama’s popular vote record, received several tens of thousands of more votes than registered Democrats in the following counties."
Wow, what a brain-dead statement. Lets look at how many mail-in ballots were returned.
Democrats: 1,600,000
Republicans: 586,000
Independents: 278,000
So the idiot who wrote that article and the morons who believe it kind of forgot about independents. What bunk.
Trumptards have lost the plot. It's clear they will never accept the vote, and will just continue to play make-believe. If this is the best they got, even the current Supreme Court wouldn't touch their arguments.
Poor schmucks, grasping for straws.
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The Trumptards are really digging in their heels now.
Mathematicians scrutinized Biden's victory in PA and identified significant questionable irregularities in some counties as compared to others:
https://thenationalpulse.com/politics/pennsylvania-vote-anomalies/ "
I read through that article. They claim 'maths people' said Biden winning was the same as flipping heads 100 times in a row.
Hahaha. To put that in perspective, the chances of that are 0.000000000000000000000000000078886%. Or to put it another way, 1 in 1,267,650,600,228,229,401,496,703,205,376.
So yeah, a bit of hyperbole here. ::)
Then they say this.
"For example, Biden, who bizarrely beat Barack Obama’s popular vote record, received several tens of thousands of more votes than registered Democrats in the following counties."
Wow, what a brain-dead statement. Lets look at how many mail-in ballots were returned.
Democrats: 1,600,000
Republicans: 586,000
Independents: 278,000
So the idiot who wrote that article and the morons who believe it kind of forgot about independents. What bunk.
Trumptards have lost the plot. It's clear they will never accept the vote, and will just continue to play make-believe. If this is the best they got, even the current Supreme Court wouldn't touch their arguments.
Poor schmucks, grasping for straws.
Aye.
They also seem to think that this election is the same as last one and people can't vote for the "other" Party.
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The silver lining here is that for all the worry about Trump throwing out democracy and declaring himself king he seems to be too incompetent to use his powers to make that happen. This isn't scary as much as it is embarrassing.
Once he realizes he's done for we're going to see a lot of really weird decisions. I predict it'll start with a flurry of pardons for all his allies still in prison.
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Aye.
They also seem to think that this election is the same as last one and people can't vote for the "other" Party.
They don't seem capable of putting "Trump" and "lose" together.
It really is a cult mentality. Orange Jesus can't fail! THey are just baffled and confused and their go-to is conspiracies and lies.
Absolute insanity.
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https://twitter.com/VladimirFurdik/status/1325202694152220675
I WON THE BATTLE OF WINTERFELL, BY A LOT!
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A lot of trump supporters are taking this very hard. I'm surprised there haven't been riots yet.
We leave that for the Dems, plus it's Monday and gotta work tomorrow. We also don't like tearing up other people's stuff, actually know what it's like to work for something over being given it.
This is an interesting thing on youtube that will soon be deleted. Sounds pretty legit
Ignore the dumb ass music, it shows exactly how it's done.
People who cast the vote decides nothing, it's the people who count it that decides everything... pretty sure a few nasty leaders used that slogan.
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Do you think the same type of fraud was used to get Trump elected?
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Do you think the same type of fraud was used to get Trump elected?
I don't think there was any fraud for Trump or Hillary. Maybe that group posting fake stuff for Trump in russia, but that would have made a negligible difference at best. Until this election, I think our election system has been clean. That is what really pisses me off with this one, not who won. I was planning on Biden, planned my business strategy with the far left being in the white house. I had accepted it months before the election. Plus, it's not that I liked Trump, I just disliked the other side and what they stood for more. Especially calling everyone a racist/terrible except for them.
However, he won by fraud of our election system, that means it is no longer secure. It was an ingenious plan though, I had wondered what the left was going to fabricate to give themselves the chance. No matter what they said, they had no chance to win with the best economy we have seen.
So, use their media to push covid to tank the economy at the same time using that to push absentee ballots. Not only does that make their lazy ass voters an easy way to vote, it allows them to "find" votes when they need them with little to no trace.
Even if Trump wanted to try that in 2016 he couldn't. The majority of people in that system are Dems and there wasn't covid or an excuse to use such an absentee ballot system.
Y'all didn't have anything to do with the fraud, but you certainly applaud it because your side won.
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Why do the lawsuits keep getting thrown out?
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Why do the lawsuits keep getting thrown out?
Not the right ones. Even if he hits the nail on the head, it's unlikely to catch ground. The ramifications of admitting our system was rigged is huge. Not sure a judge would want to open that can of worms, no matter how big the smoking gun is. Who knows, maybe they will.
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A lot of trump supporters are taking this very hard. I'm surprised there haven't been riots yet.
We leave that for the Dems, plus it's Monday and gotta work tomorrow. We also don't like tearing up other people's stuff, actually know what it's like to work for something over being given it.
This is an interesting thing on youtube that will soon be deleted. Sounds pretty legit
Ignore the dumb ass music, it shows exactly how it's done.
People who cast the vote decides nothing, it's the people who count it that decides everything... pretty sure a few nasty leaders used that slogan.
I just watched the whole thing, all of the "Steps". I actually didn't see where they were instructed to do anything fraudulent. What's the big thing that stood out for you?
For instance. 8:55, Step 6 regarding where a voter was sent an absentee ballot yet comes into the polling place to vote. Next to his name the instructor asks, what do you see. They respond, "Absentee Ballot". She asks what else. They respond "Sent and Received". The instructor says to NOT issue them a ballot. Which is correct, because their absentee ballot was "received". Works the same way in my state.
Then the video states:
Trainer assumes voter has already voted absentee. Unsaid is the possibility that the ballot was stolen, or some other error possibly ocurred."
Umm, that's exactly the way it is supposed to work. If your mail in/absentee ballot shows as "received" you should NOT get another ballot in person. When I mailed in my ballot, 3 days later I went online and it showed my ballot as "received". If I went to a polling booth because I had never checked my status, it would show as revceived and I wouldn't get handed a ballot.
Earlier on in the vid the instructor lets them know if a poll watcher starts "yelling and making a scene" they can call 911. Seems reasonable.
The point being, I literally can't find anything nefarious in the whole 11 minutes.
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Why do the lawsuits keep getting thrown out?
Not the right ones. Even if he hits the nail on the head, it's unlikely to catch ground. The ramifications of admitting our system was rigged is huge. Not sure a judge would want to open that can of worms, no matter how big the smoking gun is. Who knows, maybe they will.
The Trump administration installed a whole lot of judges. None of them would take the case?
More importantly though, what specifically is the fraudulent activity you are suggesting happened and what is the evidence that it happened?
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So, use their media to push covid to tank the economy at the same time using that to push absentee ballots. Not only does that make their lazy ass voters an easy way to vote, it allows them to "find" votes when they need them with little to no trace.
The problem is that it isn't enough to just claim fraud: you actually have to show it. Even then, can you show that the fraud would be enough to change the overall outcome? BTW, if there are so many fraudulent votes for Biden, then why weren't there enough fraudulent votes to flip the senate too?
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Do you think the same type of fraud was used to get Trump elected?
I don't think there was any fraud for Trump or Hillary. Maybe that group posting fake stuff for Trump in russia, but that would have made a negligible difference at best. Until this election, I think our election system has been clean. That is what really pisses me off with this one, not who won. I was planning on Biden, planned my business strategy with the far left being in the white house. I had accepted it months before the election. Plus, it's not that I liked Trump, I just disliked the other side and what they stood for more. Especially calling everyone a racist/terrible except for them.
Biden/Harris = Far left?
However, he won by fraud of our election system, that means it is no longer secure. It was an ingenious plan though, I had wondered what the left was going to fabricate to give themselves the chance. No matter what they said, they had no chance to win with the best economy we have seen.
So, use their media to push covid to tank the economy at the same time using that to push absentee ballots. Not only does that make their lazy ass voters an easy way to vote, it allows them to "find" votes when they need them with little to no trace.
Mail-in ballots were mailed to every registered voter in my state, regardless of party. What's wrong with making it easier for people of any party to vote, especially in the midst of this virus? And why are Dems more prone to fraud than repubs when both got the same ballots and the same opportunity?
Even if Trump wanted to try that in 2016 he couldn't. The majority of people in that system are Dems and there wasn't covid or an excuse to use such an absentee ballot system.
Y'all didn't have anything to do with the fraud, but you certainly applaud it because your side won.
No one I know who is happy about Biden's win is or would applaud fraud. I'm just mystified as to why Trump supports automatically think it's fraud that he lost. What are the indicators that only fraud could have made that happen. It's really quite a strange belief.
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A lot of trump supporters are taking this very hard. I'm surprised there haven't been riots yet.
We leave that for the Dems, plus it's Monday and gotta work tomorrow. We also don't like tearing up other people's stuff, actually know what it's like to work for something over being given it.
This is an interesting thing on youtube that will soon be deleted. Sounds pretty legit
Ignore the dumb ass music, it shows exactly how it's done.
People who cast the vote decides nothing, it's the people who count it that decides everything... pretty sure a few nasty leaders used that slogan.
I'll check that video out.
Let me propose a theory to you, see what you think.
So the democrats failed to capture the senate, lost seats in the house but won the presidency. Have you considered that it is not the democrats who committed fraud but the republicans? They got their tax cuts and their conservative supreme court. Perhaps Trump was too much of a pain in the ass and they decided to fix the election against him. Maybe your beef is with the republican party.
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I'm just mystified as to why Trump supports automatically think it's fraud that he lost. What are the indicators that only fraud could have made that happen. It's really quite a strange belief.
Standard Trump response, if he loses he claims the other side cheated, he's been doing the exact same thing all his life. He doesn't need evidence, he just needs gullible idiots to buy the con.
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Hypothetical Question.
Can the Biden administration apply to join the ACA action currently before the Supreme Court maybe with a transition legal team asking for action to be deferred till after January 20th?
Then after Jan 20, withdraw the case.
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There definitely was an attempt to deliver a whole bunch of fraudulent ballots into Philly. That much isn't really in dispute, the guys attempting it got busted. But they were Qanons. They need Trump to help get all the cannibalistic pedos from the Deep State arrested, so I don't think they had a Hummer full of Biden votes.
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Yeah, I'm wondering why they didn't make it the blue wave, if they're so good at the fraud stuff. All the polling made it seem this would be a landslide victory for the Democrats, but it wasn't (which I am glad didn't happen).
I watched the video. Other than the nefarious music, it didn't seem like they were telling the poll workers how to commit fraud. If an absentee ballot was received, then of course that person doesn't need to vote again.
Also, Joe Biden is not far left. He is a moderate, and a capitalist. He will probably pander to the squad a bit, but he won't be able to pass anything crazy without getting Republicans onboard. The midterms are in two years, if the Democrats pass dumb shit they'll lose more seats. Believe me, there are already letter writing campaigns to congress to stop them passing some bills. Regular people don't have as much power as corporate donors, but it doesn't stop people trying, and those politicians still need votes to win.
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I was planning on Biden, planned my business strategy with the far left being in the white house.
Biden is far left? Are you crazy?
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I was planning on Biden, planned my business strategy with the far left being in the white house.
Biden is far left? Are you crazy?
I guess the right went so far right that now even moderate seems pretty far left.
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Trumps scatter gun approach to taking law suits is stupid. That's not how the law works. You can't go fishing for crime because you think something happened. You need evidence. You don't get to make a claim of a crime if you don't have anything to back it up.
That's why the law suits are all failing. No evidence. No wrong doing (certainly on a scale that could change the result).
Also let's face it. How well does it look for Trumps lawsuits that the election was rigged when he's said for years (even before the last one) that if he doesn't win that it's rigged. WTF is up with that?
I don't know what penalties apply for trying to commit voter fraud in America but I'm guessing it's simply not worth the penalty.
American elections aren't perfect (50 states with different laws) but from what I can see, it's still run like a tight ship.
I think America got the best result. You have a guy in the white house that doesn't lie or make shit up everytime he opens his mouth. Doesn't indulge conspiracy theories. Listens to experts and science. Is respectable around the world so America won't appear to be a joke. Has almost 50 years experience in politics. Doesn't rile up people stoking fear, hatred and division, doesn't have an apathy for life, doesn't mock or bully disabled people, doesn't trash your democracy by thinking the oval office is an entitlement simply because he wants it, would appoint people based on experience and ability, not because their some old mate or family and you have a senate that can keep the democrats in check.
America is in a far better position. You are not facing an existential crisis.
There will be recounts in several states. For all the claims of fraud or shenanigans during the counting, how silly will Trump look if a few extra were found for the democrats. In all the history of recounts, the results are not always guaranteed to find favour for the loser, and it's only ever changed by a few hundred votes. Trump wants a recount in Wisconsin for example where the recount will need to overturn by more than 20,000 votes.
He's just fishing.
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I was planning on Biden, planned my business strategy with the far left being in the white house.
Biden is far left? Are you crazy?
I guess the right went so far right that now even moderate seems pretty far left.
Objectively Trump is far right but has convinced his followers he is the 'sensible centre'. So yeah, that shifts everyone that actually is centre to be far far left in their minds
Well if Trump is centre I'm happy to be far left
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Bom, like Tom and most Republicans, simply believed the hype: That Trump was invincible. That he couldn't be stopped. And who told them? Why Trump himself of course.
This is like finding out the Earth revolves around the sun when the church taught otherwise. You can't accept it because it would throw your entire life into chaos. Everytbing you believed would be in doubt.
That's what I and many ithers felt 4 years ago. Payback's a bitct, is't it?
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Have you guys seen the vid where a guy gives a literal hitler speech and the trumpsters cheer him on?
WhY wOuLd yoU comPaRe uS to NaZiS?
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A lot of trump supporters are taking this very hard. I'm surprised there haven't been riots yet.
We leave that for the Dems, plus it's Monday and gotta work tomorrow. We also don't like tearing up other people's stuff, actually know what it's like to work for something over being given it.
This is an interesting thing on youtube that will soon be deleted. Sounds pretty legit
Ignore the dumb ass music, it shows exactly how it's done.
People who cast the vote decides nothing, it's the people who count it that decides everything... pretty sure a few nasty leaders used that slogan.
Alright. I watched it. Well actually I listened to it. I really don't know what this is getting at. All I heard was a poll supervisor giving an orientation lecture that was so boring it was difficult to pay attention to.
BTW the music is from Final Fantasy 2(us). One of the tracks played on the moon I think.
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Make America Rake Again..... Lawn Order.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmWSoVHXIAAVqEh?format=jpg&name=360x360)
LOL.
In other news Trump is planning rallies in states where he is contesting results. WTF.....
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Make America Rake Again..... Lawn Order.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmWSoVHXIAAVqEh?format=jpg&name=360x360)
LOL.
In other news Trump is planning rallies in states where he is contesting results. WTF.....
Ahahahahah.
Yeah, Trump and his supporters will NEVER admit that was a mistake. They will insist Trump himself picked that location and come up with a hundred reasons why it's better than the actual Four Seasons Hotel.
I'd love to hear a Trump supporters excuses for this one.
For the rest of the world it's obvious. Trump and his pet attack lawyer are complete idiots.
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Make America Rake Again..... Lawn Order.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmWSoVHXIAAVqEh?format=jpg&name=360x360)
LOL.
In other news Trump is planning rallies in states where he is contesting results. WTF.....
Ahahahahah.
Yeah, Trump and his supporters will NEVER admit that was a mistake. They will insist Trump himself picked that location and come up with a hundred reasons why it's better than the actual Four Seasons Hotel.
I'd love to hear a Trump supporters excuses for this one.
For the rest of the world it's obvious. Trump and his pet attack lawyer are complete idiots.
Hold on, let me try.
"We wanted to do this in front of a small business, not a large hotel, to showcare the working class of Philidelphia. We know you're struggling and we want the world to see it too. We're not in bed with big, money grubbing, liberal corporations. We are fighting for you. The people who get up every morning to do the hard, backbreaking work those liberals in congress don't care about. We are here for the heart of America and the heart is right here, at Four Seasons lawn care."
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Make America Rake Again..... Lawn Order.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmWSoVHXIAAVqEh?format=jpg&name=360x360)
LOL.
In other news Trump is planning rallies in states where he is contesting results. WTF.....
Ahahahahah.
Yeah, Trump and his supporters will NEVER admit that was a mistake. They will insist Trump himself picked that location and come up with a hundred reasons why it's better than the actual Four Seasons Hotel.
I'd love to hear a Trump supporters excuses for this one.
For the rest of the world it's obvious. Trump and his pet attack lawyer are complete idiots.
Hold on, let me try.
"We wanted to do this in front of a small business, not a large hotel, to showcare the working class of Philidelphia. We know you're struggling and we want the world to see it too. We're not in bed with big, money grubbing, liberal corporations. We are fighting for you. The people who get up every morning to do the hard, backbreaking work those liberals in congress don't care about. We are here for the heart of America and the heart is right here, at Four Seasons lawn care."
I think you missed your calling - Kayleigh McEnany has got nothing on you.
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It's also obvious why the democrats didn't win the Senate and lost seats in the House. They rigged it to throw off accusations of fraud by making it look like they didn't do anything wrong because obviously they would have taken the Senate and at least kept their lead in the House if they really were going to commit voter fraud. 5d chess.
But seriously, Biden is as far from the far left as Trumplicans are from the center. Also, the courts in Georgia would love nothing more than to be able to substantiate Trumps claims of voter fraud and flip it back to Trump. And really, who wouldn't want to be the first judge to preside over a massive voter fraud scheme and have your name placed in the history books?
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If the republicans keep the senate then Biden being a centrist might be an asset. I'm probably delusional but they might be able to actually compromise on legislation.
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If the republicans keep the senate then Biden being a centrist might be an asset. I'm probably delusional but they might be able to actually compromise on legislation.
Not with the likes of McConnell and Cruz. Cruz and his lot will claim anything left of them is literal socialism and then McConnell will prevent anything they won't support from coming up because "We can't have divided republicans".
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If the republicans keep the senate then Biden being a centrist might be an asset. I'm probably delusional but they might be able to actually compromise on legislation.
You think Mitch will allow anything that benefits the Democrats to pass?
You remember what he did to Obama, and how he acted during Trump's run?
Every year he gets worse and worse, there is zero chance of any cooperation because Mitch isn't going to allow it.
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If by chance the Republicans lose both senate seats in the Georgia runoff and it becomes a 50-50 split, will there still be majority/minority leaders?
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If by chance the Republicans lose both senate seats in the Georgia runoff and it becomes a 50-50 split, will there still be majority/minority leaders?
The majority leader in that case would be a democrat because VP Harris would get the tie-breaking vote as president of the Senate.
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If by chance the Republicans lose both senate seats in the Georgia runoff and it becomes a 50-50 split, will there still be majority/minority leaders?
The majority leader in that case would be a democrat because VP Harris would get the tie-breaking vote as president of the Senate.
I'm not sure about that. It would be 50 Republicans, 48 Democrats and 2 Independents who usually side with the Democrats.
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If by chance the Republicans lose both senate seats in the Georgia runoff and it becomes a 50-50 split, will there still be majority/minority leaders?
The majority leader in that case would be a democrat because VP Harris would get the tie-breaking vote as president of the Senate.
I'm not sure about that. It would be 50 Republicans, 48 Democrats and 2 Independents who usually side with the Democrats.
Majority leader isn't decided based one which party is in the majority, but rather which person gets the majority of the vote. If the 2 independents vote with the dems to put presumably Schumer as leader, then it's 50/50 split with Harris casting the tie-breaker vote.
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Listen, Schumer isn't going to get the Senate because God is gonna smash him with his iron rod https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1325811083492401152?s=20
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That's a former congresswoman...
I am shocked at how well this country is doing with leadership like this. I wonder if lizard people really are in charge.
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I was just happy to find out God's dick is made of iron.
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I wonder if lizard people really are in charge.
I would think that the lizard people would be a lot more competent.
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The stress of the last few days is finally taking it's toll.
Who will be the first to write fanfic about lizardmen and God's iron penis?
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/defense-secretary-mark-esper-fired-trump/2020/11/09/9b7cbcbc-a5b9-11ea-8681-7d471bf20207_story.html
Trump fires the secretary of defense via tweet.
The meltdown has begun.
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You think Mitch will allow anything that benefits the Democrats to pass?
You remember what he did to Obama, and how he acted during Trump's run?
Every year he gets worse and worse, there is zero chance of any cooperation because Mitch isn't going to allow it.
McConnell is scum.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/defense-secretary-mark-esper-fired-trump/2020/11/09/9b7cbcbc-a5b9-11ea-8681-7d471bf20207_story.html
Trump fires the secretary of defense via tweet.
The meltdown has begun.
Does this make it more or less likely that Trump could “go out with a bang”?
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Oh snap https://www.axios.com/trump-2024-presidential-run-4add0d86-02be-41f9-b2fd-5aaca96ce6ce.html We'll have another carnival in 4 years!
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Oh snap https://www.axios.com/trump-2024-presidential-run-4add0d86-02be-41f9-b2fd-5aaca96ce6ce.html We'll have another carnival in 4 years!
A lot can happen in 4 years, but I wonder if that would be yet another boon for the dems to secure either a 2nd Biden term or the 47th president.
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Oh snap https://www.axios.com/trump-2024-presidential-run-4add0d86-02be-41f9-b2fd-5aaca96ce6ce.html We'll have another carnival in 4 years!
More likely one of his idiot sons.
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Oh snap https://www.axios.com/trump-2024-presidential-run-4add0d86-02be-41f9-b2fd-5aaca96ce6ce.html We'll have another carnival in 4 years!
Can you run a campaign from Sing Sing? I guess we will find out?
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For your viewing pleasure:
What Happens When CNN Tries To Fact Check 'Stop The Steal' Protesters
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I guess Trump found out where they hid his phone. Back to his usual ranting.
Nevada is turning out to be a cesspool of Fake Votes. @mschlapp & @AdamLaxalt are finding things that, when released, will be absolutely shocking!
- Donald J. Trump
Calling a state a cesspool, classy.
And yeah.. I'm sure this info will be coming out REAL SOON NOW. Just like all the other shit he promised over the years and never delivered on. Still waiting for the stuff from Hawaii about Obamas birth certificate. Wasn't there something about a hard drive as well?
ITS ALL RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER! PROMISE!
I'm sure it's got people like Tom all bouncing in their seats and clapping like idiots, breathlessly awaiting this next revelation from their Lord. Holy hell, how can people get fooled over and over so MANY times? And every time... drooling over the next lie.
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For your viewing pleasure:
What Happens When CNN Tries To Fact Check 'Stop The Steal' Protesters
Holy crap.
Woman: "It's legal for them to count votes in PA two days after the election on Nov 3?"
Reporter: "Yes."
Woman: "Your wrong, go, I don't even want to talk to you!"
Ahhahahahahahahhahhahahahahahahahahah.
Oh my god, these people are such dumbasses. The ignorance hurts so bad. Have none of them ever watched an election before? How stupid do you have to be to think we stop counting on election day. :o
I just have to laugh, it's either that or cry.
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Bom, like Tom and most Republicans, simply believed the hype: That Trump was invincible. That he couldn't be stopped. And who told them? Why Trump himself of course.
This is like finding out the Earth revolves around the sun when the church taught otherwise. You can't accept it because it would throw your entire life into chaos. Everytbing you believed would be in doubt.
That's what I and many ithers felt 4 years ago. Payback's a bitct, is't it?
Right....I thought Trump is bulletproof, that's why I planned my future business model with Biden in office (if you actually read what other people said instead of just waiting for your turn to type you would know this).
You and many others here are always demonstrating what is wrong with the people in the dem party. Always speaking to people in a condescending tone, acting high and mighty sitting right on top of your high horse.
It could be somewhat excusable, and just considered brash, if there was substance. Like if someone of solid moral character told me I was doing something wrong, or someone rich scolded me about money. Yet, with Dems it is completely unfounded, all hypocritical hot air. It is getting worse and worse as the echo chamber gets louder.
All these years I have tried to separate the party from the people. Unfortunately now it is getting tough as it seems each person that joins needs to know the proper handshake and wear the right uniform. Unfortunately, I am simply coming to the conclusion I don't like democrats, the party or people, and I don't want to be that way.
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You and many others here are always demonstrating what is wrong with the people in the dem party. Always speaking to people in a condescending tone, acting high and mighty sitting right on top of your high horse.
Well, we didn't vote for Trump so yeah, we get to look down condescendingly on those who did.
Especially when you did it again after 4 years of seeing EXACTLY what you elected the first time.
You want to support Trump? That's your right. But prepare to be looked down on for it.
Trump is trying to destroy democracy in America because he's having a temper tantrum, and you guys are helping him. Maybe you should clean your own house before getting upset and people complaining about the smell from across the street.
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Here's the video I was talking about:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jqdddl/maga_crowd_cheers_for_a_guy_giving_a_literal/
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You and many others here are always demonstrating what is wrong with the people in the dem party. Always speaking to people in a condescending tone, acting high and mighty sitting right on top of your high horse.
Well, we didn't vote for Trump so yeah, we get to look down condescendingly on those who did.
Especially when you did it again after 4 years of seeing EXACTLY what you elected the first time.
You want to support Trump? That's your right. But prepare to be looked down on for it.
Trump is trying to destroy democracy in America because he's having a temper tantrum, and you guys are helping him. Maybe you should clean your own house before getting upset and people complaining about the smell from across the street.
Please show where I acted like that during 2016. The only things I said was I think he has more support than we think despite the polls, and after the election how I was shocked and it showed how the media was all biased and liars (proven again this election).
Both elections I have supported no one only said one shit sandwich was less stinky than the other. Instead of talking from your high horse try reading a little first. Unless you did and are being dishonest, then at that point God-speed
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Bom, like Tom and most Republicans, simply believed the hype: That Trump was invincible. That he couldn't be stopped. And who told them? Why Trump himself of course.
This is like finding out the Earth revolves around the sun when the church taught otherwise. You can't accept it because it would throw your entire life into chaos. Everytbing you believed would be in doubt.
That's what I and many ithers felt 4 years ago. Payback's a bitct, is't it?
Right....I thought Trump is bulletproof, that's why I planned my future business model with Biden in office (if you actually read what other people said instead of just waiting for your turn to type you would know this).
You and many others here are always demonstrating what is wrong with the people in the dem party. Always speaking to people in a condescending tone, acting high and mighty sitting right on top of your high horse.
It could be somewhat excusable, and just considered brash, if there was substance. Like if someone of solid moral character told me I was doing something wrong, or someone rich scolded me about money. Yet, with Dems it is completely unfounded, all hypocritical hot air. It is getting worse and worse as the echo chamber gets louder.
All these years I have tried to separate the party from the people. Unfortunately now it is getting tough as it seems each person that joins needs to know the proper handshake and wear the right uniform. Unfortunately, I am simply coming to the conclusion I don't like democrats, the party or people, and I don't want to be that way.
You're perhaps spoken to condescendingly because you post things like that video of the ballot training claiming that it was a smoking gun about voter fraud and there was literally nothing nefarious in it at all. And you immediately are saying that the Dems defrauded the election process without evidence. What do you expect?
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Bom, like Tom and most Republicans, simply believed the hype: That Trump was invincible. That he couldn't be stopped. And who told them? Why Trump himself of course.
This is like finding out the Earth revolves around the sun when the church taught otherwise. You can't accept it because it would throw your entire life into chaos. Everytbing you believed would be in doubt.
That's what I and many ithers felt 4 years ago. Payback's a bitct, is't it?
Right....I thought Trump is bulletproof, that's why I planned my future business model with Biden in office (if you actually read what other people said instead of just waiting for your turn to type you would know this).
You and many others here are always demonstrating what is wrong with the people in the dem party. Always speaking to people in a condescending tone, acting high and mighty sitting right on top of your high horse.
It could be somewhat excusable, and just considered brash, if there was substance. Like if someone of solid moral character told me I was doing something wrong, or someone rich scolded me about money. Yet, with Dems it is completely unfounded, all hypocritical hot air. It is getting worse and worse as the echo chamber gets louder.
All these years I have tried to separate the party from the people. Unfortunately now it is getting tough as it seems each person that joins needs to know the proper handshake and wear the right uniform. Unfortunately, I am simply coming to the conclusion I don't like democrats, the party or people, and I don't want to be that way.
To be honest, I don't believe you. You talked so much about how Trump was going to win that it seems very odd for you to have typed all that and then plan otherwise. Also, not sure HOW you plan otherwise given we can't be sure exactly what will happen, given Congress is still in split control.
As for condescending:
Seriously? You, the party of morals and family values? Not being condescending to us godless, radical democrats? Rrrriiiiggghhhtt... I bet you wish you had another cup of lib tears, don't ya?
You are, quite literally describing yourself and the Republican party.
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Here's the video I was talking about:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jqdddl/maga_crowd_cheers_for_a_guy_giving_a_literal/
I have no words. That's just hard to watch. And very, very sad.
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Here's the video I was talking about:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jqdddl/maga_crowd_cheers_for_a_guy_giving_a_literal/
I have no words. That's just hard to watch. And very, very sad.
I long for the days when bringing up Hitler meant the conversation was over.
Not like it is now, where it just means you're literally discussing Trump and Republicans.
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Here's the video I was talking about:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jqdddl/maga_crowd_cheers_for_a_guy_giving_a_literal/
I have no words. That's just hard to watch. And very, very sad.
I wonder if that guy was trolling them.
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He wasn't. There's one video of him saying 'I hate niggers' and then smiling stupidly, then chanting 'USA, USA,...'. Also the guy that's introducing him is a known nazi.
I may post the evidence if I come across it soon.
Btw, I was also kinda shocked that he is NOT a troll. It's just above any stupidity I could imagine.
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It's just, that was part of the plot of an episode of The Office once. Jim writes a speech for Dwight to deliver for an awards night. The speech was originally given by Mussolini.
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Here's the video I was talking about:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jqdddl/maga_crowd_cheers_for_a_guy_giving_a_literal/
I have no words. That's just hard to watch. And very, very sad.
I wonder if that guy was trolling them.
I think he was given the smirk lol
Trump isnt a Jew hating hitler though. The Jews seem to love him. But he is Americas Mussolini though. Quite a few disturbing parallels
https://www.businessinsider.com/historians-election-experts-warn-trump-behaving-like-mussolini-2020-9
It's good he's gone. Democracy really was at stake. Hopefully the repugnicans can get a more moderate and respectable candidate next election.
I'm sure there will be a TV deal about the Trumps. Akin to 'The House of Borja'. I don't think it will be very flattering though.
Trump being booted out shows the strength of American democracy. Look at all the memes making fun of his meltdown and the boos when he walks past. In China, if you even dare post a picture of Winnie the Pooh on Weibo, you could get a knock on the door and taken away in the middle of the night.
Don't think if Trump could do that he wouldn't. That guy loved flirting with being a dictator and apparantly half of America was okay with it :o
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Indeed. I'm surprised that Trump has been so ineffective at stealing the election.
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Indeed. I'm surprised that Trump has been so ineffective at stealing the election.
Its his ego.
"I don't need to steal. I'll win. They'll.cheat and I'll still win. Everyone loves me. I'm the best president America has ever had and will ever have."
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So are they going to immortalise Trump in a statue like other past presidents? What would the pose be? I reckon it will be condescendingly pointing his finger like the rude SOB he is
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Meanwhile virtual reality furries are hanging out at Four Seasons Total Landscaping https://twitter.com/thecoopertom/status/1325710953305026560?s=20
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Here's the video I was talking about:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jqdddl/maga_crowd_cheers_for_a_guy_giving_a_literal/
I have no words. That's just hard to watch. And very, very sad.
I wonder if that guy was trolling them.
100% he was trolling them. That grin at the end, that wasn't the smug smile of a NAZI who just got a bunch of people to cheer for Hitler.
I wonder if any of them have the self awareness to feel ashamed once they see themselves. I doubt it.
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To be honest, I don't believe you. You talked so much about how Trump was going to win that it seems very odd for you to have typed all that and then plan otherwise. Also, not sure HOW you plan otherwise given we can't be sure exactly what will happen, given Congress is still in split control.
As for condescending:
Seriously? You, the party of morals and family values? Not being condescending to us godless, radical democrats? Rrrriiiiggghhhtt... I bet you wish you had another cup of lib tears, don't ya?
You are, quite literally describing yourself and the Republican party.
Care to find any proof of me saying Trump is going to win this election besides this thread when I said BOOOM Trump? That was simply for me being beyond shocked. Find anything before this since I "talked so much", the search function works fine.
If you do I will say you are right on everything and I am terrible... If you can't (which I know you can't), you have to admit you are a typical blowhard liberal. This whole time all I have said is what will happen if either wins, that I hope Trump does but doubtful. That I don't like Trump but I like Biden less, no different that 2016, just put Hillary in Biden's place.
If you actually paid attention, a democratic had my vote over Trump before he got booted (Yang). Crouton can vouch for this if he would like to be honest because he liked him as well, if not I am sure I can go back and find the convo.
I have also maintained many times over that we all need to work together and get everyone out of government, both sides are screwing us over and give no damns about us.
So, as usual you are showing your true colors, and fitting yourself in the box you claim not to wear.
(Oh and PS, don't give me shit about being so sad or alone being a democrat while Trump was in office. You had all of social media, news networks, entertainment, more than half of america etc etc etc on your side. You were just fine)
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Meanwhile virtual reality furries are hanging out at Four Seasons Total Landscaping https://twitter.com/thecoopertom/status/1325710953305026560?s=20
Enlighten me. What was that that I just watched? VR Furries? As opposed to the IRL ones I would see when I lived a block from the Folsom Street Fair? I guess it makes sense, there's a VR thing for everything. I just had no idea.
Maybe next up would be VR Looners at Mar-a-Largo.
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Australia burns trunp
https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/1325883025721339904?s=20
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To be honest, I don't believe you. You talked so much about how Trump was going to win that it seems very odd for you to have typed all that and then plan otherwise. Also, not sure HOW you plan otherwise given we can't be sure exactly what will happen, given Congress is still in split control.
As for condescending:
Seriously? You, the party of morals and family values? Not being condescending to us godless, radical democrats? Rrrriiiiggghhhtt... I bet you wish you had another cup of lib tears, don't ya?
You are, quite literally describing yourself and the Republican party.
Care to find any proof of me saying Trump is going to win this election besides this thread when I said BOOOM Trump? That was simply for me being beyond shocked. Find anything before this since I "talked so much", the search function works fine.
If you do I will say you are right on everything and I am terrible... If you can't (which I know you can't), you have to admit you are a typical blowhard liberal. This whole time all I have said is what will happen if either wins, that I hope Trump does but doubtful. That I don't like Trump but I like Biden less, no different that 2016, just put Hillary in Biden's place.
If you actually paid attention, a democratic had my vote over Trump before he got booted (Yang). Crouton can vouch for this if he would like to be honest because he liked him as well, if not I am sure I can go back and find the convo.
I have also maintained many times over that we all need to work together and get everyone out of government, both sides are screwing us over and give no damns about us.
So, as usual you are showing your true colors, and fitting yourself in the box you claim not to wear.
(Oh and PS, don't give me shit about being so sad or alone being a democrat while Trump was in office. You had all of social media, news networks, entertainment, more than half of america etc etc etc on your side. You were just fine)
I do recall this fwiw.
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you are right on everything and I am terrible...
Thank you for being honest.
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I do recall this fwiw.
Thanks Crouton. I think I also said he was going to get booted quick because he made too much sense, which sadly was true.
Least we saw a good candidate for a brief moment
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Here's the video I was talking about:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jqdddl/maga_crowd_cheers_for_a_guy_giving_a_literal/
I have no words. That's just hard to watch. And very, very sad.
I wonder if that guy was trolling them.
I dunno, check out his haircut...
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To be honest, I don't believe you. You talked so much about how Trump was going to win that it seems very odd for you to have typed all that and then plan otherwise. Also, not sure HOW you plan otherwise given we can't be sure exactly what will happen, given Congress is still in split control.
As for condescending:
Seriously? You, the party of morals and family values? Not being condescending to us godless, radical democrats? Rrrriiiiggghhhtt... I bet you wish you had another cup of lib tears, don't ya?
You are, quite literally describing yourself and the Republican party.
Care to find any proof of me saying Trump is going to win this election besides this thread when I said BOOOM Trump? That was simply for me being beyond shocked. Find anything before this since I "talked so much", the search function works fine.
If you do I will say you are right on everything and I am terrible... If you can't (which I know you can't), you have to admit you are a typical blowhard liberal. This whole time all I have said is what will happen if either wins, that I hope Trump does but doubtful. That I don't like Trump but I like Biden less, no different that 2016, just put Hillary in Biden's place.
If you actually paid attention, a democratic had my vote over Trump before he got booted (Yang). Crouton can vouch for this if he would like to be honest because he liked him as well, if not I am sure I can go back and find the convo.
I have also maintained many times over that we all need to work together and get everyone out of government, both sides are screwing us over and give no damns about us.
So, as usual you are showing your true colors, and fitting yourself in the box you claim not to wear.
(Oh and PS, don't give me shit about being so sad or alone being a democrat while Trump was in office. You had all of social media, news networks, entertainment, more than half of america etc etc etc on your side. You were just fine)
I do recall this fwiw.
I am not in a position to search well now but yes, I recall that too. Then he got booted and my memory tells me you were unhappy as you kept saying Trump will easily win because the Dems are dumb.
If I am unable to find this evidence then I will apologize and consider myself terrible and you are right on everything.
I'll even sig it.
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You and many others here are always demonstrating what is wrong with the people in the dem party. Always speaking to people in a condescending tone, acting high and mighty sitting right on top of your high horse.
Well, we didn't vote for Trump so yeah, we get to look down condescendingly on those who did.
Especially when you did it again after 4 years of seeing EXACTLY what you elected the first time.
You want to support Trump? That's your right. But prepare to be looked down on for it.
Trump is trying to destroy democracy in America because he's having a temper tantrum, and you guys are helping him. Maybe you should clean your own house before getting upset and people complaining about the smell from across the street.
Please show where I acted like that during 2016. The only things I said was I think he has more support than we think despite the polls, and after the election how I was shocked and it showed how the media was all biased and liars (proven again this election).
Both elections I have supported no one only said one shit sandwich was less stinky than the other. Instead of talking from your high horse try reading a little first. Unless you did and are being dishonest, then at that point God-speed
What are you even talking about? I never said anything in that quote about how you acted. I said you voted for Trump, supported Trump, and deserve all the scorn you get.
You are trying to backpedal away from being a Trumptard but it's not going to work.
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I do recall this fwiw.
Thanks Crouton. I think I also said he was going to get booted quick because he made too much sense, which sadly was true.
Least we saw a good candidate for a brief moment
I would have voted for Yang!
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Interesting. That video that Bom posted is now deleted. Big tech is actively flagging or deleting election misinformation. They are now flocking to Parler.
An interesting dilemma for Parler. Their commitment to free speech is being used to attempt to destroy liberal democracy which would in turn eventually destroy free speech.
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Interesting. That video that Bom posted is now deleted. Big tech is actively flagging or deleting election misinformation. They are now flocking to Parler.
An interesting dilemma for Parler. Their commitment to free speech is being used to attempt to destroy liberal democracy which would in turn eventually destroy free speech.
Facebook will die if all the Trumpeters flock away from it. They are all that's left there.
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Gee, I guess that Trump isn't alone in the sore loser department:
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Interesting. That video that Bom posted is now deleted. Big tech is actively flagging or deleting election misinformation. They are now flocking to Parler.
An interesting dilemma for Parler. Their commitment to free speech is being used to attempt to destroy liberal democracy which would in turn eventually destroy free speech.
Facebook will die if all the Trumpeters flock away from it. They are all that's left there.
Yesterday my 76yr old mother asked me what Parler is. lol
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Interesting. That video that Bom posted is now deleted. Big tech is actively flagging or deleting election misinformation. They are now flocking to Parler.
An interesting dilemma for Parler. Their commitment to free speech is being used to attempt to destroy liberal democracy which would in turn eventually destroy free speech.
Facebook will die if all the Trumpeters flock away from it. They are all that's left there.
Yesterday my 76yr old mother asked me what Parler is. lol
My friend's mom posted something on FB yesterday that talked about new FB, new Twitter, new search engine, new everything online to combat big tech.
The funny thing is people have already tried to replace FB, no one talks about Gab anymore, but it was supposed to be the new FB years ago.
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I know a guy who worked on the tech side of Gab for awhile. They wouldn't let him fix anything. Gab defederated about a month ago. I think Parler probably won't have those same tech issues, and infighting. I know a lot of people who have accts there, but I don't know much about it. I don't get the impression they are as free speech extreme as Gab. Gab was filled with /pol types, and was really dumb most of the time. I spend lots of time on the fediverse, lol.
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Gee, I guess that Trump isn't alone in the sore loser department:
I guess I didn't watch enough Fox News during the midterms. I don't even recall that happening. I remember a weird situation where it looks bad for democrats on the first night but it took longer than usual for the votes to be counted and then the democrats took the house.
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To be honest, I don't believe you. You talked so much about how Trump was going to win that it seems very odd for you to have typed all that and then plan otherwise. Also, not sure HOW you plan otherwise given we can't be sure exactly what will happen, given Congress is still in split control.
As for condescending:
Seriously? You, the party of morals and family values? Not being condescending to us godless, radical democrats? Rrrriiiiggghhhtt... I bet you wish you had another cup of lib tears, don't ya?
You are, quite literally describing yourself and the Republican party.
Care to find any proof of me saying Trump is going to win this election besides this thread when I said BOOOM Trump? That was simply for me being beyond shocked. Find anything before this since I "talked so much", the search function works fine.
If you do I will say you are right on everything and I am terrible... If you can't (which I know you can't), you have to admit you are a typical blowhard liberal. This whole time all I have said is what will happen if either wins, that I hope Trump does but doubtful. That I don't like Trump but I like Biden less, no different that 2016, just put Hillary in Biden's place.
If you actually paid attention, a democratic had my vote over Trump before he got booted (Yang). Crouton can vouch for this if he would like to be honest because he liked him as well, if not I am sure I can go back and find the convo.
I have also maintained many times over that we all need to work together and get everyone out of government, both sides are screwing us over and give no damns about us.
So, as usual you are showing your true colors, and fitting yourself in the box you claim not to wear.
(Oh and PS, don't give me shit about being so sad or alone being a democrat while Trump was in office. You had all of social media, news networks, entertainment, more than half of america etc etc etc on your side. You were just fine)
I do recall this fwiw.
I am not in a position to search well now but yes, I recall that too. Then he got booted and my memory tells me you were unhappy as you kept saying Trump will easily win because the Dems are dumb.
If I am unable to find this evidence then I will apologize and consider myself terrible and you are right on everything.
I'll even sig it.
Welp, I'm gonna go with mixed.
You jump a few times back and forth. You definitely support Trump with a hatred for Biden (Cause Yang got dropped).
But you rarely stated that you thought Trump would win and when you did, it was only specifically in a "I hope he wins because Biden is the worst" kinda way.
Sooo... yeah. I got your hatred of Biden mixed up with your thinking Trump will win. I appologize. Thus, I shall sig this:
I am a terrible person and I am a typical Blowhard Liberal for being wrong about Bom.
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Meanwhile virtual reality furries are hanging out at Four Seasons Total Landscaping https://twitter.com/thecoopertom/status/1325710953305026560?s=20
Awww, furries <3
They seem to be having fun.
Great wholesome avatars! I see a protogen, awww.
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Any bets on when we will see the copious amounts of evidence of voter fraud we have been promised?
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The problem with trying to fabricate evidence of retail voter fraud is the same problem with actually perpetrating retail voter fraud. It's not a single incident. It's hundreds of thousands of separate incidences. A very difficult thing to fake.
They'd have more luck trying to invalid a large portion of ballots that voted for Biden which is difficult enough to do before an election but after it's a pretty bad look.
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Any bets on when we will see the copious amounts of evidence of voter fraud we have been promised?
Same time Trump releases his taxes as he promised?
Same time the GOP releases the dirt on Biden's laptop that was promised?
Same time Trump releases the dirt on Obamas birth certificate he said he had and would release soon?
The same time Tom's Storm happens and all the Democrats are arrested?
Never.
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Welp, I'm gonna go with mixed.
You jump a few times back and forth. You definitely support Trump with a hatred for Biden (Cause Yang got dropped).
But you rarely stated that you thought Trump would win and when you did, it was only specifically in a "I hope he wins because Biden is the worst" kinda way.
Sooo... yeah. I got your hatred of Biden mixed up with your thinking Trump will win. I appologize. Thus, I shall sig this:
I am a terrible person and I am a typical Blowhard Liberal for being wrong about Bom.
Just a heads up, BHS ( aka BOM ) likes to make everything about himself. Spoiler alert: It never is.
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Any bets on when we will see the copious amounts of evidence of voter fraud we have been promised?
Same time Trump releases his taxes as he promised?
Same time the GOP releases the dirt on Biden's laptop that was promised?
Same time Trump releases the dirt on Obamas birth certificate he said he had and would release soon?
The same time Tom's Storm happens and all the Democrats are arrested?
Never.
What matters in the Trump bizarro world is not reality, but the perception of reality. Putting it another way, it doesn't matter if it's true or not, it only matters that there are people who believe the lie.
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Welp, I'm gonna go with mixed.
You jump a few times back and forth. You definitely support Trump with a hatred for Biden (Cause Yang got dropped).
But you rarely stated that you thought Trump would win and when you did, it was only specifically in a "I hope he wins because Biden is the worst" kinda way.
Sooo... yeah. I got your hatred of Biden mixed up with your thinking Trump will win. I appologize. Thus, I shall sig this:
I am a terrible person and I am a typical Blowhard Liberal for being wrong about Bom.
Just a heads up, BHS ( aka BOM ) likes to make everything about himself. Spoiler alert: It never is.
Perhaps but irrelevant. I made a claim. That claim was false. I shall accept the punishment even tho I never agreed to prior.
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Welp, I'm gonna go with mixed.
You jump a few times back and forth. You definitely support Trump with a hatred for Biden (Cause Yang got dropped).
But you rarely stated that you thought Trump would win and when you did, it was only specifically in a "I hope he wins because Biden is the worst" kinda way.
Sooo... yeah. I got your hatred of Biden mixed up with your thinking Trump will win. I appologize. Thus, I shall sig this:
I am a terrible person and I am a typical Blowhard Liberal for being wrong about Bom.
Just a heads up, BHS ( aka BOM ) likes to make everything about himself. Spoiler alert: It never is.
Perhaps but irrelevant. I made a claim. That claim was false. I shall accept the punishment even tho I never agreed to prior.
Fair enough, but if you re-read the shit he posts its always about him. Never addressing the issues, just how it affects him personally. ( or how much money he's going to gain/lose)
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Any bets on when we will see the copious amounts of evidence of voter fraud we have been promised?
Same time Trump releases his taxes as he promised?
Same time the GOP releases the dirt on Biden's laptop that was promised?
Same time Trump releases the dirt on Obamas birth certificate he said he had and would release soon?
The same time Tom's Storm happens and all the Democrats are arrested?
Never.
What matters in the Trump bizarro world is not reality, but the perception of reality. Putting it another way, it doesn't matter if it's true or not, it only matters that there are people who believe the lie.
Looks liek we got our answer!
Ballot Corruption will be exposed tonight at 9:00pmE on @SeanHannity on @FoxNews!
- @realDonaldTrump
So the evidence of illegal activity collected by all the lawyers and DOJ will be announced by... a talk show host on an entertainment channel.
Right.
This will be good.
Will be be talking from the Four Seasons?
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I'm starting to think Trump struggles with basic arithmetic. As far as I can tell if we took at face value every specific allegation of voter fraud he still wouldn't have enough to win the election.
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Georgia’s Republican Congressional delegation sent a letter to Georgia's Secretary of State, in this letter they misspelled Georgia, and they also don't mind that some them were elected in this corrupt election themselves? https://static.fox5atlanta.com/www.fox5atlanta.com/content/uploads/2020/11/Ga-GOP-Delegation-to-Raffensperger-111020.pdf I mean, if deceased people were voting, maybe that's why they got elected.
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I mean, if deceased people were voting, maybe that's why they got elected.
Trump is off his rocker as usual.
I've seen a number of reports of people who died after sending their mail-in ballot. Nothing conspiratorial about that. If you get hit by a bus as you walk out of the voting booth do they make sure to remove your vote? Shouldn't be any difference with mail-in.
Here is the worst case of dead people voting I could find from 2016. Good old California, so forward in many ways, so backward in many others.
Looks like the massive cases of dead people turns out to be about 8 a rear in a state that casts 10 million votes. Something to fix but hardly going to affect anything.
But hey, the GOP is going all in with voter fraud. I mean, these are the guys who have been telling their own voters for decades that their own government is corrupt and incompetent. So convincing them voting itself is worthless, par for the course for these traitorous assholes.
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The thing about dead people voting, is not that they voted, it's that they're names are still on the registered voter lists. It happens all the time. Politicians make a big deal out of it, but only when it's on the other team. They've got dead registered voters on their lists too.
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I'm starting to think Trump struggles with basic arithmetic. As far as I can tell if we took at face value every specific allegation of voter fraud he still wouldn't have enough to win the election.
Incorrect.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-analysis-election-night-data-states-shows-millions-votes-either-switched-president-trump-biden-lost/
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8O2wesk/happening-calling-every-pede-to-/
If we take this at face value, there is enough voter fraud here to flip PA, VA, and GA.
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Tom, are only the votes for Democrats fraud? Why wasn't there a blue wave?
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I'm starting to think Trump struggles with basic arithmetic. As far as I can tell if we took at face value every specific allegation of voter fraud he still wouldn't have enough to win the election.
Incorrect.
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8O2wesk/happening-calling-every-pede-to-/
If we take this at face value, there is enough voter fraud here to flip PA, VA, and GA.
This list is not what Trump is alleging. The author of this has nothing to do with the Trump campaign or administration.
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If we take this at face value, there is enough voter fraud here to flip PA, VA, and GA.
If there is so much voter fraud, then why were the counts so close is so many states? Why did the democrats lose seats in the house and fail to flip the senate? Doesn't sound like a very good fraud to me.
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I'm starting to think Trump struggles with basic arithmetic. As far as I can tell if we took at face value every specific allegation of voter fraud he still wouldn't have enough to win the election.
Incorrect.
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8O2wesk/happening-calling-every-pede-to-/
If we take this at face value, there is enough voter fraud here to flip PA, VA, GA, and close to a tie in NY.
This is the worst high-school level conspiracy theorist website blog you have posted so far. How can you even post that with a straight face? You taking this at face value only indicates your inability to notice when your being fed garbage.
Call us back when any of that garbage actually makes it in front of a judge. Not going to happen.
Just like Trump's reelection didn't happen. Just like the Storm didn't happen. Just like Trump staying in the White House isn't going to happen.
For starters, this isn't 'official government data' it's what the NY Times is sending browsers to display their fancy charts and graphs. I posted some of those graphs here during the counting.
This guy is looking at a newspapers heavily processed numbers and trying to prove some kind of voter fraud because it rounds numbers to a few decimal places and he's freaking out because he can't figure out how counting works.
This is Tom's "evidence".
{
"vote_shares": {
"trumpd": 0.566,
"bidenj": 0.42
},
"votes": 2984468,
"eevp": 42,
"eevp_source": "edison",
"timestamp": "2020-11-04T04:07:43Z"
},
{
"vote_shares": {
"trumpd": 0.56,
"bidenj": 0.426
},
"votes": 2984522,
"eevp": 42,
"eevp_source": "edison",
"timestamp": "2020-11-04T04:08:51Z"
},
So the problem seems to be the percentage changes 'too much' for this guy to handle based on the numbers displayed. He comes to this crackpot theory with no idea how these numbers are being processed internally, and jumps to the conclusion that because a newspaper rounds percentages on his web browser when it draws those fancy red and blue lines, that means the actual votes are being changed.
Let me repeat, this is data used to create the little voting graphs displayed on the web page. That's what this data is. This is not raw voting data direct from the government, it's drawing little graphs with a very small amount of precision.
Do you understand numerical precision Tom? Lets add that one to the list.
This is so much nothing, but yet again Tom brings the fun. You need to lay off the 4chan level websites, dude.
TLDR; Tom thinks actual votes are being changed because a newspaper web page is drawing graphs with limited precision.
LOL. The ignorance never ends. ::)
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Looks like you wasted your time. No one asked you to try to rebut the content. We were talking about the current existing claims taken at face value. Crouton asked us to take it at face value. If we take it at face value the results of the election are in question, or at least represents significant anomalies which calls for further investigation.
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Looks like you wasted your time. No one asked you to try to rebut the content. We were talking about the current existing claims taken at face value. Crouton asked us to take it at face value. If we take it at face value the results of the election are in question.
No, I asked you to consider what Trump's legal team is actually alleging.
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Looks like you wasted your time. No one asked you to try to rebut the content. We were talking about the current existing claims taken at face value. Crouton asked us to take it at face value. If we take it at face value the results of the election are in question.
Engaging you is always a waste of time. :P
No Tom, you taking some bullshit conspiracy theory website at face value doesn't call the results into question.
Just your intelligence.
Your guy lost. Get over it. Quit trying to help your failed President destroy American democracy because his ego won't let him admit he lost.
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Looks like you wasted your time. No one asked you to try to rebut the content. We were talking about the current existing claims taken at face value. Crouton asked us to take it at face value. If we take it at face value the results of the election are in question.
No, I asked you to consider what Trump's legal team is actually alleging.
You didn't specify anything about Trump's legal team's current lawsuits. You said "I'm starting to think Trump struggles with basic arithmetic. As far as I can tell if we took at face value every specific allegation of voter fraud he still wouldn't have enough to win the election."
Trump tweeted about fraud in the computer systems just earlier today.
(https://i.imgur.com/CMzcUJy.png)
Yesterday he called out Dominion by name:
(https://i.imgur.com/9Qypn6F.png)
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Looks like you wasted your time. No one asked you to try to rebut the content. We were talking about the current existing claims taken at face value. Crouton asked us to take it at face value. If we take it at face value the results of the election are in question.
No, I asked you to consider what Trump's legal team is actually alleging.
You didn't say Trump's legal team. You said Trump, and how he "struggles with basic arithmetic". Trump tweeted about fraud in the computer systems just earlier today.
(https://i.imgur.com/CMzcUJy.png)
The Storm! Is it The Storm? It's The Storm coming, isn't it?
Trump promising shit and not delivering is one of his most enduring features.
Trump lost, and the scary thing is he would have won easily if he wasn't such an idiot. Scary.
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Trump lost
Please show us where in the Constitution the media decides the president. There is a long process after election day before the states certify the results. Election day results have been overturned before.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Oe1JPUC4AXk/hqdefault.jpg)
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Looks like you wasted your time. No one asked you to try to rebut the content. We were talking about the current existing claims taken at face value. Crouton asked us to take it at face value. If we take it at face value the results of the election are in question.
No, I asked you to consider what Trump's legal team is actually alleging.
You didn't specify anything about Trump's legal team's current lawsuits. You said "I'm starting to think Trump struggles with basic arithmetic. As far as I can tell if we took at face value every specific allegation of voter fraud he still wouldn't have enough to win the election."
Trump tweeted about fraud in the computer systems just earlier today.
(https://i.imgur.com/CMzcUJy.png)
Yesterday he called out Dominion by name:
(https://i.imgur.com/9Qypn6F.png)
From the AP (Far more trustworthy and non-partisan than OANN):
Posts falsify ties between election tech firm and Democrats
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-us-news-media-michigan-43bdaa186e3b8d9d897cae3bd0c6cdc0
"AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Dominion made a one-time philanthropic commitment at a Clinton Global Initiative meeting in 2014, but the Clinton Foundation has no stake or involvement in Dominion’s operations, the nonprofit confirmed to The Associated Press. A former aide to Pelosi has represented Dominion as a lobbyist, but so have lobbyists who worked for Republicans. Claims that Feinstein’s husband, Richard Blum, holds a stake in Dominion are baseless."
From Snopes regarding a Dominion fraud claim:
"In response to the false claims made by Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, the Michigan Department of State issues the following statements of fact:
Michigan’s elections were conducted fairly, effectively and transparently and are an accurate reflection of the will of Michigan voters.
The erroneous reporting of unofficial results from Antrim county was a result of accidental error on the part of the Antrim County Clerk. The equipment and software did not malfunction and all ballots were properly tabulated. However, the clerk accidentally did not update the software used to collect voting machine data and report unofficial results."
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rumor-alert-dominion-voting-systems-fraud-claims/
TL;DR: Dominion Voting System fraud claims are garbage.
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Trump lost
Please show us where in the Constitution the Media decides the president. There is a long process after the election before the states certify the results. Initial election results have been overturned before.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Oe1JPUC4AXk/hqdefault.jpg)
Yes, the Supreme Court decided that election where it was down to a hundred votes in one state. That's a good example of Republicans stealing an election, as it turns out Gore actually DID have more votes.
This is a bit different, Tom.
The Supreme Court isn't going to throw out the results in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada. You can't steal it this time.
Let me explain who actually decides. The people. And they told Trump: You're fired.
The media hasn't decided this, the numbers have. Biden is on track to have over 300 electoral votes. It's a landslide, as Trump has said.
Biden has nearly five million more votes than Trump. Recounts won't help. Lawsuits that keep getting thrown out won't help. Whining won't help. Trump's going to get dragged out of the office kicking and screaming if he has to, and that will just show everyone how sad he is.
You just can't accept that America is kicking your candidate out of the White House. But you're good at denying reality.
Here, since you love memes so much. Just keep watching this until it sinks in. :D
https://twitter.com/ChristiaanVanV/status/1325694189451927552
( Oh, and learn how to use forum software for crying out loud. )
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From the AP (Far more trustworthy and non-partisan than OANN):
Posts falsify ties between election tech firm and Democrats
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-us-news-media-michigan-43bdaa186e3b8d9d897cae3bd0c6cdc0
"AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Dominion made a one-time philanthropic commitment at a Clinton Global Initiative meeting in 2014, but the Clinton Foundation has no stake or involvement in Dominion’s operations, the nonprofit confirmed to The Associated Press. A former aide to Pelosi has represented Dominion as a lobbyist, but so have lobbyists who worked for Republicans. Claims that Feinstein’s husband, Richard Blum, holds a stake in Dominion are baseless."
TL;DR: Dominion Voting System fraud claims are garbage.
Did you read your article? It says that money exchanged hands between Dominion and the Clinton Foundation, and Nancy Pelosi's former aid is their lobbyist. Therefore there is a Democrat connection.
The Supreme Court isn't going to throw out the results in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada. You can't steal it this time.
Let me explain who actually decides. The people. And they told Trump: You're fired.
President isn't elected by the people. Learn moar Constitution.
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Trump lost
Please show us where in the Constitution the media decides the president. There is a long process after election day before the states certify the results. Election day results have been overturned before.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Oe1JPUC4AXk/hqdefault.jpg)
That call of Gore winning in FLA on Election night was very early on. As the 7th became the 8th, FLA swung to Bush and at about 3 AM it was called for Bush by the media. Gore was going to concede but was talked out of it by his aides/advisors because it was so close. By the waking hours of the 8th, all of the media had called the election for Bush. You know the rest of the story.
As for a long process after election day, controversy or not, this is true. Which makes Trump's "We will know the winner election night" and his calling himself the winner on election night and repeatedly ever since absolutely hilarious. You might want to let him know that "There is a long process after election day before the states certify the results.".
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From the AP (Far more trustworthy and non-partisan than OANN):
Posts falsify ties between election tech firm and Democrats
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-us-news-media-michigan-43bdaa186e3b8d9d897cae3bd0c6cdc0
"AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Dominion made a one-time philanthropic commitment at a Clinton Global Initiative meeting in 2014, but the Clinton Foundation has no stake or involvement in Dominion’s operations, the nonprofit confirmed to The Associated Press. A former aide to Pelosi has represented Dominion as a lobbyist, but so have lobbyists who worked for Republicans. Claims that Feinstein’s husband, Richard Blum, holds a stake in Dominion are baseless."
TL;DR: Dominion Voting System fraud claims are garbage.
Did you read your article? It says that money exchanged hands between Dominion and the Clinton Foundation, and Nancy Pelosi's former aid is their lobbyist. Therefore there is a Democrat connection.
The Supreme Court isn't going to throw out the results in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada. You can't steal it this time.
Let me explain who actually decides. The people. And they told Trump: You're fired.
President isn't elected by the people. Learn moar Constitution.
"A former aide to Pelosi has represented Dominion as a lobbyist, but so have lobbyists who worked for Republicans."
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From the AP (Far more trustworthy and non-partisan than OANN):
Posts falsify ties between election tech firm and Democrats
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-us-news-media-michigan-43bdaa186e3b8d9d897cae3bd0c6cdc0
"AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Dominion made a one-time philanthropic commitment at a Clinton Global Initiative meeting in 2014, but the Clinton Foundation has no stake or involvement in Dominion’s operations, the nonprofit confirmed to The Associated Press. A former aide to Pelosi has represented Dominion as a lobbyist, but so have lobbyists who worked for Republicans. Claims that Feinstein’s husband, Richard Blum, holds a stake in Dominion are baseless."
TL;DR: Dominion Voting System fraud claims are garbage.
Did you read your article? It says that money exchanged hands between Dominion and the Clinton Foundation, and Nancy Pelosi's former aid is their lobbyist. Therefore there is a Democrat connection.
The Supreme Court isn't going to throw out the results in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada. You can't steal it this time.
Let me explain who actually decides. The people. And they told Trump: You're fired.
President isn't elected by the people. Learn moar Constitution.
"A former aide to Pelosi has represented Dominion as a lobbyist, but so have lobbyists who worked for Republicans."
What you posted is a democrat connection.
Also, I don't donate to political groups that I am not biased towards. Why should we believe that this company does?
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From the AP (Far more trustworthy and non-partisan than OANN):
Posts falsify ties between election tech firm and Democrats
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-us-news-media-michigan-43bdaa186e3b8d9d897cae3bd0c6cdc0
"AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Dominion made a one-time philanthropic commitment at a Clinton Global Initiative meeting in 2014, but the Clinton Foundation has no stake or involvement in Dominion’s operations, the nonprofit confirmed to The Associated Press. A former aide to Pelosi has represented Dominion as a lobbyist, but so have lobbyists who worked for Republicans. Claims that Feinstein’s husband, Richard Blum, holds a stake in Dominion are baseless."
TL;DR: Dominion Voting System fraud claims are garbage.
Did you read your article? It says that money exchanged hands between Dominion and the Clinton Foundation, and Nancy Pelosi's former aid is their lobbyist. Therefore there is a Democrat connection.
The Supreme Court isn't going to throw out the results in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada. You can't steal it this time.
Let me explain who actually decides. The people. And they told Trump: You're fired.
President isn't elected by the people. Learn moar Constitution.
"A former aide to Pelosi has represented Dominion as a lobbyist, but so have lobbyists who worked for Republicans."
What you posted is a democrat connection.
Also, I don't donate to political groups that I am not biased towards. Why should we believe that this company does?
The Clinton Global Initiative Group isn't a political group just like Jimmy Carter's Carter Foundation that partners with Bill and Melinda Gates and Habitats for Humanity isn't a political group.
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That call of Gore winning in FLA on Election night was very early on. As the 7th became the 8th, FLA swung to Bush and at about 3 AM it was called for Bush by the media. Gore was going to concede but was talked out of it by his aides/advisors because it was so close. By the waking hours of the 8th, all of the media had called the election for Bush. You know the rest of the story.
Incorrect. It wasn't resolved on November 8th. It went on for a while. The race wasn't resolved until December 12th.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Bush-v-Gore
Bush v. Gore, case in which, on December 12, 2000, the Supreme Court of the United States reversed a Florida Supreme Court request for a selective manual recount of that state’s U.S. presidential election ballots. The 5–4 decision effectively awarded Florida’s 25 votes in the electoral college—and thus the election itself—to Republican candidate George W. Bush.
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What you posted is a democrat connection.
Also, I don't donate to political groups that I am not biased towards. Why should we believe that this company does?
Oh how soon you forget. Remember Diebold?
In 2003, Diebold’s CEO caused a controversy when he became a top fundraiser for George W. Bush and promised to help Ohio “deliver its electoral votes to the president.”
You guys have just a BIT more of a connection to voting machine makers than Democrats, so if you're going to claim one donation is evidence of conspiracy, Diebold has a whole mountain of donations and connections.
Keep grasping for straws.
Trump lost. Good luck overturning PA's 45,000 votes. Then another several states.
(https://i.imgur.com/Wmblck7.png)
https://twitter.com/ChristiaanVanV/status/1325694189451927552
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That call of Gore winning in FLA on Election night was very early on. As the 7th became the 8th, FLA swung to Bush and at about 3 AM it was called for Bush by the media. Gore was going to concede but was talked out of it by his aides/advisors because it was so close. By the waking hours of the 8th, all of the media had called the election for Bush. You know the rest of the story.
Incorrect. It wasn't resolved on November 8th. It went on for a while. The race wasn't called until December 12th.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Bush-v-Gore
Bush v. Gore, case in which, on December 12, 2000, the Supreme Court of the United States reversed a Florida Supreme Court request for a selective manual recount of that state’s U.S. presidential election ballots. The 5–4 decision effectively awarded Florida’s 25 votes in the electoral college—and thus the election itself—to Republican candidate George W. Bush.
Pay attention. Called by the media.
But still let your guy know that these things take time. He apparently didn't get the memo when he asked to stop counting and called the election for himself the night of.
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But still let your guy know that these things take time. He apparently didn't get the memo when he asked to stop counting and called the election for himself the night of.
Amazing how Trump claimed to be the winner before they even STARTED counting half the votes.
Which he knew was going to happen, especially as it was the GOP that ensured those votes WOULDN'T be counted until the next day.
That's some grade a level lying and bullshitting right there. Yet Trumpsters ate it up, forgetting how elections work overnight.
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That call of Gore winning in FLA on Election night was very early on. As the 7th became the 8th, FLA swung to Bush and at about 3 AM it was called for Bush by the media. Gore was going to concede but was talked out of it by his aides/advisors because it was so close. By the waking hours of the 8th, all of the media had called the election for Bush. You know the rest of the story.
Incorrect. It wasn't resolved on November 8th. It went on for a while. The race wasn't called until December 12th.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Bush-v-Gore
Bush v. Gore, case in which, on December 12, 2000, the Supreme Court of the United States reversed a Florida Supreme Court request for a selective manual recount of that state’s U.S. presidential election ballots. The 5–4 decision effectively awarded Florida’s 25 votes in the electoral college—and thus the election itself—to Republican candidate George W. Bush.
Pay attention. Called by the media.
Well yeah, I argued that the media's calling doesn't matter and gave the Gore-Bush example. You are supposed to be contradicting that.
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Well yeah, I argued that the media's calling doesn't matter and gave the Gore-Bush example. You are supposed to be contradicting that.
The votes matter, Tom.
We can all see the votes, and count them.
Trump got a smaller number and didn't win enough states. So he lost. That's how numbers work. ::)
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Even Fox news is throwing in the towel. Fox Entertainment is still spreading lies, but the news part of Fox sees reality.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-lead-trump-arizona-15k-comeback-unlikely
Biden's lead over Trump in Arizona drops below 15K votes, but comeback unlikely: report
The Fox News Decision Desk projected a Biden victory in Arizona on Nov. 3
President-elect Joe Biden’s lead over President Trump in Arizona fell below 15,000 votes as of Monday, but the president is unlikely to stage a successful comeback in the key battleground state.
As of Monday, Biden received a record 75.67 million votes nationwide, while Trump received 71.01 million votes.
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We were talking about the current existing claims taken at face value.
Tom, you do understand that the courts don't take existing claims at face value, don't you? There's this little thing called "evidence" that you need to provide to substantiate those claims, otherwise your case gets thrown out. You know, like just about every single case so far.
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We were talking about the current existing claims taken at face value.
Tom, you do understand that the courts don't take existing claims at face value, don't you? There's this little thing called "evidence" that you need to provide to substantiate those claims, otherwise your case gets thrown out. You know, like just about every single case so far.
There is evidence for many of the existing allegations of fraud. And the fact that the Trump hate and TDS is so pronounced compared to other politicans is evidence enough that shenanigans may have occured.
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We were talking about the current existing claims taken at face value.
Tom, you do understand that the courts don't take existing claims at face value, don't you? There's this little thing called "evidence" that you need to provide to substantiate those claims, otherwise your case gets thrown out. You know, like just about every single case so far.
There is evidence for many of the existing allegations of fraud.
But like Hunter Bidens emails, they're not going to release it. Not even to the courts
Trump may still pull this out of his arse. Don't put it past him to not bribe enough 'faithless electors'
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The fraud is systemic.There has been a tremendous amount of election fraud in this election and the primaries. Here is some:
Hundreds of uncounted ballots found hidden in massachusetts Grafton town clerk's vault
https://www.milforddailynews.com/news/20200701/hundreds-of-uncounted-ballots-discovered-in-grafton-town-clerks-vault
Discarded ballots found dumped outside of drive thru ATM machine in california
https://www.newsweek.com/discarded-mail-ballot-found-california-atm-1537386
Dozens (est 40) ballots go missing in Contra Costa county
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/decision-2020/dozens-of-ballots-go-missing-in-contra-costa-county/2388551/
FBI investigates ballot drop box set on fire at Boston public library, est 35 ballots destroyed
https://amp.wbur.org/news/2020/10/25/investigation-fire-ballot-box-boston
Burned/Destroyed mail found in boston Copley Square , 2nd arson instance
https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2020/10/26/burnt-mail-near-copley-square-where-ballot-box-was-set-on-fire
Mail & Absentee ballots stolen in Baton Rouge found open and thrown in houston trash
https://www.wbrz.com/news/la-absentee-ballot-showing-vote-for-president-trump-found-stolen-opened-and-dumped-in-tx-trash/
Video out of Miami postal center where numerous bins filled with mail, including ballots discovered sitting for more than a week
3 tubs of absentee ballots discovered in Wisconsin processing center for Oshkosh and Appleton after primary
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/three-tubs-of-ballots-discovered-in-mail-processing-center-after-polls-closed-in-wisconsin/ar-BB12laJO
California Kern County sees hundreds of residents receiving damaged , ripped and destroyed ballots
https://www.turnto23.com/news/election-2020/hundreds-of-kern-county-voters-claim-voter-ballots-were-ripped-tampered-with
Parolled cop killer busted attempting to obtain voter registration in Rochester NY
https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york-news/paroled-cop-killer-facing-voter-fraud-charges/5911589/
Fayette county Pittsburg, pre filled out democrat ballots sent to registered voters + 2 tampered with
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/video/4834757-officials-investigating-possible-voter-fraud-in-fayette-county/
Florida man arrested for changing address in voting database for governor Ron Desantis
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/29/florida-man-desantis-voting-address/
Florida Election Official foil plot to register 50 dead people as democrats
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/florida-election-officials-foil-plot-to-register-over-fifty-dead-people-as-democratic-voters
Thieves steal mail from two usps trucks in Far south side Chicago
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/4/21/21230630/usps-postal-trucks-vehicles-stolen-far-south-side
2 men charged in stealing ballots from post office boxes in light house point West Palm Beach
Almost a dozen people in NY busted for plot to conceal identity / shave heads and vote multiple times
https://nypost.com/2020/10/29/new-yorkers-plan-to-illegally-vote-by-shaving-heads-foiled/
Woman arrested in Vanderburgh county for pre checking boxes on 400+ ballots
https://www.tristatehomepage.com/news/local-news/vanderburgh-county-woman-facing-felony-election-fraud-charge/
Butler county Pennsylvania loses untold number of mail in ballots
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/10/28/butler-county-elections-director-says-postal-service-lost-mail-in-ballots/
Ballots stolen from mail boxes and discarded on roadsides in Washington town
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ballots-stolen-from-mailboxes-discarded-on-roadsides-in-washington-town
Group claims 400,000 ballots sent to residents who moved out of state or died in California
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/10/15/nearly-400000-california-ballots-sent-to-people-who-moved-out-of-state-or-died/
Texas officer & poll watcher testifies on 2020 Houston Voting Fraud Using stacks of drivers licenses , (has photos)
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2084295714190/exclusive-texas-poll-watcher-testifies-on-2020-voter-fraud-in-houston-has-photos
West Palm Beach residents receive duplicate ballots and ballots for dead relatives
https://www.wpbf.com/article/duplicate-ballots-sealed-envelopes-dead-relatives-voters-raise-mail-in-ballot-concerns/34198409
Pennsylvania postal employee on leave and now fired after bags of mail discovered outside of home put out for trash pickup
https://www.foxnews.com/us/pennsylvania-postal-worker-on-leave-after-bags-of-undelivered-mail-found-outside-home
25,263 ballots rejected in Colorado primary
https://www.cpr.org/2020/10/08/colorado-vote-by-mail-ballots-rejected-signatures/
Double absentee ballots sent to residents in Henrico county
https://www.nbc12.com/2020/09/22/double-absentee-ballots-accidentally-sent-some-henrico-voters/
Pa rejects 336,000 duplicate ballot requests 34,000 rejected for other reasons . Many voters request ballots up to 11 times
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-state/2020/10/16/pennsylvania-rejected-mail-ballot-applications-duplicates-voters/stories/202010160153
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Mecklenburg residents receiving double ballots due to labelling glitch
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article245761310.html
San Mateo residents receive multiple ballots
https://abc7news.com/mail-in-ballot-california-2020-election-san-mateo-county-double-two-ballots/7006753/
Multiple absentee ballot applications showing up at Flint Michigan homes
https://nbc25news.com/news/local/multiple-absentee-ballot-applications-being-sent-to-mid-michigan-homes
Florida man arrested for obtaining dead wife's ballot and forging signature to "test the system"
https://www.wptv.com/news/state/florida-man-who-tried-to-get-ballot-for-dead-wife-arrested
Election officials ask voters to not disinfect their mail in ballots as handfulls have already arrived destroyed and unable to be tabulated
https://www.kcra.com/article/election-officials-ask-voters-stop-disinfecting-mail-in-ballots/34336823
400 duplicate ballots sent to local voters in Richmond
https://richmond.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/roughly-400-local-voters-receive-two-ballots-officials-say-errors-wont-lead-to-double-votes/article_934f11bf-8825-5f2f-8391-8cdbe707cd7a.html
Duplicate ballots sent to "some" in North Carolina. How many? Who knows.
https://www.wxii12.com/article/duplicate-ballots-sent-to-some-north-carolina-voters/34056922
Placer county residents receiving duplicate ballots
https://www.kcra.com/article/thousands-of-second-ballots-mailed-placer-county-voters/34306099
Bay area voters receive multiple ballots
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/bay-area-voters-receive-multiple-ballots-fuel-concern-over-november-election/2378192/
USPS confirms missing ballots, never made it to residents of Seminole county. How many? Who knows
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/10/06/usps-confirms-missing-ballots-but-doesnt-have-any-additional-information/
Board of elections resends 99,000+ ballots in Brooklyn . Officials worry numerous originals already filled out and sent off
https://nypost.com/2020/10/06/board-of-elections-resends-99k-ballots-in-brooklyn-amid-snafu
50,000 ballots in Ohio sent to wrong addresses
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/09/ohio-county-wrong-ballots-428350
500,000 ballots in Virginia labelled with wrong return address
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/verify-wrong-mail-in-ballots-fairfax-virginia/65-94c4847c-63fb-4a93-bac5-9bb45df00a8d
Glitch sends duplicate ballots in pittsburg Allegheny county
https://www.wesa.fm/post/glitch-sends-duplicate-ballots-voters-system-prevents-double-voting-county-says#stream/0
Glitch sends duplicate ballots to Needham town residents
https://needham.wickedlocal.com/news/20200818/needham-town-clerk-several-voters-received-duplicate-ballot-after-possible-glitch
Detroit elections, where 72% of absentee votes do not match registered voters
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/20/benson-asked-investigate-detroit-perfect-storm-voting-problems/5616629002/
80,000 ballots dissappeared in baltimore
https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-voting-snafu-update-20180625-story.html
New York voting official warns people will use dead people to vote, and a few have
https://www.newsweek.com/mail-voting-ballots-deceased-1531481
Michigan secretary misprinted military absentee ballots . 400 already issued
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/09/president-trump-goes-after-michigan-secretary-of-state-again-over-ballot-misprint.html
Mail in ballots found in road ditch in Wisconsin
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/23/mailed-in-ballots-found-tossed-in-wisconsin-ditch/
4 officials arrested in ballot harvesting scheme
https://www.kltv.com/2020/09/24/gregg-county-commissioner-others-arrested-alleged-vote-harvesting-scheme/
9 military mail in ballots thrown in dumpster in PA
https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/poconos-coal/fbi-psp-probing-9-discarded-ballots-in-luzerne-county/article_249405da-fea4-11ea-a8d7-b7faa419550f.html
134 felony voter fraud charges announced in Dem primary
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-attorney-general-ken-paxton-voter-fraud
New Yorkers receiving ballots with wrong names and adresses
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/518682-new-yorkers-report-receiving-ballots-with-wrong-name-voter-addresses
Queens voters receiving military ballots
https://nypost.com/2020/09/28/nyc-voters-wrongly-getting-mail-in-ballots-marked-for-military-use/
Sun sentinel detailing Florida voting fraud
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/commentary/fl-op-com-menge-mail-in-ballots-fraud-florida-20200416-hanmbneuendpbaftyktpactlga-story.html
Ballot harvesting scam exposed in minneapolis
https://nypost.com/2020/09/29/minneapolis-police-probing-alleged-ballot-harvesting-claims/
1 in 4 " A Quarter" of election officials quit due to the new election law and chaos of mail in ballots
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/mail-ballot-law-pennsylvania-has-driven-out-nearly-quarter-state-n1240504
Texas Official arrested on felony election fraud charges
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-official-arrested-felony-election-fraud-charges-could-face-99-year-sentence-1534183
Patterson city council official arrested along with 4 others in ballot fraud scheme
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/paterson-city-council-vice-president-among-4-charged-with-voting-fraud-in-may-special-election-nj-ag/2484797/
Yes America! Plenty of voter fraud
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/yes-america-there-voter-fraud-these-recent-cases-prove-it
D.C voters receiving ballots for ex residents with some receiving up to 5 multiple ballots
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-voters-are-being-sent-mail-in-ballots-for-ex-residents
Numerous reports of people going door to door illegally collecting ballots
https://www.newsweek.com/ballot-vote-maryland-collect-anne-arundel-1535901
Project Veritas uncovers ballot fraud in San Antonio . 7,000 ballots compromised , likely up to 14,000
https://www.expressnews.com/news/politics/texas_legislature/article/Project-Veritas-activists-release-San-Antonio-15679739.php
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Orono, Maine Woman charged for casting roommates ballot
https://bangordailynews.com/2020/10/27/politics/orono-woman-charged-with-voter-fraud-after-allegedly-casting-former-roommates-ballot/
Man Arrested in Luzerne county for trying to cast ballot for dead Wife
https://www.wnep.com/article/news/local/luzerne-county/man-arrested-for-voter-fraud-in-luzerne-county/523-7fc4fd2f-9105-47e7-a510-2b5ff176ab2c
Postal Carrier in Miami arrested and charged with stealing ballots and gift cards
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/postal-carrier-accused-stealing-mail-ballot-miami-73713450
Poll worker in Germantown maryland caught filling out / fixing ballots
(Video)
https://www.financialsurvivalnetwork.com/2020/10/voter-fraud-caught-on-camera-poll-worker-appears-to-write-on-ballot/
Ballot box containing ballots set on fire from the inside in Baldwin Park california
300 Pounds of mail including ballots found in dumpster in New Jersey
https://mb.ntd.com/piles-of-mail-including-ballots-found-in-dumpster-in-new-jersey_514529.html
6 USPS postal mail boxes tampered with in Richmond VA
https://www.localdvm.com/news/virginia/mail-collection-boxes-tampered-with-at-6-usps-locations-across-central-virginia c/
2,100 residents in woodland hills receive faulty ballots
https://www.kcra.com/article/2100-los-angeles-county-voters-receive-faulty-ballots/34289550
5,500 sample ballots sent in New Hampshire not labeled as "sample" leads many to believe they are legit election ballots
https://www.wmur.com/article/unlabeled-sample-absentee-ballots-new-hampshire/34394841
1,500 ballots in Kansas not counted in primary
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/kansas/articles/2020-09-25/1-500-mail-ballots-arrived-too-late-to-count-in-kansas
Ballot printing error in sanpete Utah leaves 13,000 ballots with no where to put signature
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/14/ballot-printing-error/
Alaska, voter mistakes put many ballots on track for rejection 3 weeks out
https://www.adn.com/politics/2020/10/15/voter-mistakes-put-many-mail-in-ballots-on-track-for-rejection-3-weeks-before-election-day/
Ballots found damaged and vandalized in Billings Montana
https://billingsgazette.com/news/local/billings-residents-report-missing-vandalized-ballots/article_7ccc48bf-8b31-55a0-b264-eca5a4e877b7.html
USPS Bins with 112 ballots found in dumpster in louisville Kentucky
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/over-100-undelivered-absentee-ballots-found-discarded-in-dumpster
60,000 ballots in Pennsylvania unaccounted for.
https://www.newsweek.com/pennsylvania-mail-ballots-delayed-25-days-until-election-1537824
Landlord in Las vegas received 18 ballots for Tennant's he's never had
https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1316833363169284104
Tiktok video allegedly showing someone filling out multiple ballots in California
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/10/13/eric-trump-says-the-campaign-will-be-taking-immediate-legal-action-over-a-tiktok-video-allegedly-showing-a-person-filling-out-multiple-ballots/
Utah man finds ballots in dumpster
https://news/local-news/utah-man-concerned-about-finding-voters-ballots-in-dumpster
29,000 incorrect ballots sent out in Philly due to mapping error
https://nypost.com/2020/10/15/error-leads-to-30k-pa-voters-receiving-incorrect-ballots/
Election workers swamped with requests for multiple absentee ballots from "same people"
https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/politics/elections/election-workers-swamped-multiple-absentee-ballot-requests-same-people/275-8dc73fb0-a9e4-424b-a019-fda28130b517
Ballots for deceased voter raises concern in L.a county
https://www.dailynews.com/ballot-for-deceased-voter-raises-concerns-about-l-a-county-election-integrity
Kern country voter receives 3 ballots
https://bakersfieldnow.com/newsletter-daily/duplicate-ballot-confusion-kern-county-voter-receives-three-ballots-for-nov-3-election
1000 duplicate ballots sent in Fairfax county
https://wjla.com/news/local/voters-alert-7-on-your-side-after-receiving-duplicate-mail-in-ballots
Discarded mail in ballots found dumped in Joshua tree park in San bernadino CA
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/10/08/mail-including-voter-ballots-found-discarded-twentynine-palms-joshua-tree/
Some Ohio Residents report recieving damaged ballots
https://www.statenews.org/post/some-ohio-voters-report-receiving-damaged-ballots
Thief caught on camera stealing ballots from mail boxes
https://streamable.com/z94se1
Hall county nebraska. 21 residents receive duplicate ballots
https://nebraska.tv/news/hall-county-issues-21-duplicate-ballots
Texas mayoral candidate arrested for election fraud, charged with over 100 counts
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/08/voting-fraud-arrest-carrollton/
39 Colorado counties have more voters than people, is now being sued
https://www.wnd.com/2020/10/colorado-sued-voters-people/
USPS Employee arrested for dumping mail which included 99 ballots
https://www.radio.com/1010wins/news/usps-mail-carrier-arrested-for-dumping-election-ballots
19 illegals busted voting in 2016. 2 re entered n re voted in this year's primary
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/19-foreign-nationals-indicted-illegally-voting-2016-elections
1000 people voted twice in georgia
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgia-official-claims-1-000-people-illegally-voted-twice-in-primaries/ar-BB18PGvz?li=BB141NW3
Mail truck catches fire destroying thousands of ballots
https://amp.dailyrecord.com/amp/3257291001
200,000 ballots sent to wrong addresses in nevada
https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2020-08-10-more-than-200000-ballots-in-nevada-mailed-to-the-wrong-addresses/
Entire NJ election called a do over due to ballot fraud
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/paterson-press/2020/08/11/paterson-nj-election-rivals-agree-do-over-council-election/3343160001/
New jersey man votes 3 times
https://patch.com/new-hampshire/concord-nh/new-hampshire-man-arrested-vote-fraud-charge
Kansas Republican + 4 others charged in ballot fraud
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/kansas-republican-charged-with-three-felonies-in-voter-fraud-investigation/2020/07/14/7d0fe8c2-c629-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html
200,000 purged from rolls in New york
https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/politics/campaigns-elections/new-york-city-purged-voters-2016-it-wasnt-mistake.html
Deceased cat receives ballot
https://apnews.com/fbcec393dc652a9ccdb2cc8aacb15895
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Ok Tom I'm going to need you to stop pasting walls of links. Thanks.
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Feel free to delete them. I don't know of any other way to show that there is systemic chronic fraud and election issues without linking the evidence.
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I'm not going to delete them, but I think the walls of links you've provided can't possibly be enhanced by more posts with walls of links. You needn't Gish Gallop any further.
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I suspect the GOP is more heavily involved in election fraud than the Dems. Here is a good example of GOP deliberately delaying ballots, from Tom's wall-o-links.. :)
https://www.newsweek.com/pennsylvania-mail-ballots-delayed-25-days-until-election-1537824
A GOP leaning printing contractor delayed 60,000 ballots in PA, thus making it harder to return on-time. Voter supression.... or Fraud?
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Not entirely unexpected.
"A Pennsylvania postal worker whose claims have been cited by top Republicans as potential evidence of widespread voting irregularities admitted to U.S. Postal Service investigators that he fabricated the allegations, according to three officials briefed on the investigation and a statement from a House congressional committee."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/postal-worker-fabricated-ballot-pennsylvania/2020/11/10/99269a7c-2364-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e_story.html
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Looks like you wasted your time. No one asked you to try to rebut the content. We were talking about the current existing claims taken at face value. Crouton asked us to take it at face value. If we take it at face value the results of the election are in question.
No, I asked you to consider what Trump's legal team is actually alleging.
You didn't specify anything about Trump's legal team's current lawsuits. You said "I'm starting to think Trump struggles with basic arithmetic. As far as I can tell if we took at face value every specific allegation of voter fraud he still wouldn't have enough to win the election."
Trump tweeted about fraud in the computer systems just earlier today.
(https://i.imgur.com/CMzcUJy.png)
Yesterday he called out Dominion by name:
(https://i.imgur.com/9Qypn6F.png)
He might have said it in a tweet. Is his legal team acting on it?
Let me ask you a question I've asked Bom but I never got an answer;
Given that the Republicans gained house seats, kept the senate, did well in the house races, control some or all of the instruments of voting in most of the swing states, have you considered that it's more likely that if anyone committed fraud then it would be the Republicans?
We both know the Republican establishment despises Trump. For the Democrats Trump is the greatest fundraiser in history.
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Feel free to delete them. I don't know of any other way to show that there is systemic chronic fraud and election issues without linking the evidence.
I looked at a few. Most seem to be cases of people messing with the mail. Such as a postal worker stealing debit cards, gift cards and a ballot (1 ballot!). People setting fire to mail boxes, some shitty contractor dumping a bag of mail instead of delivering it, etc.
These are not evidence of a coordinated attempt to mess with the election, most likely just the normal stuff that unfortunately happens to mail. But even if there was intention to manipulate the election, why would the Democrats hinder postal votes when they knew that postal votes would favour them?
The democrats have been calling for the USPS to make sure they are ready to deliver all the ballots on time for months.
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If the Republicans are cheating then they deserve jail time. All the more reason to call for regular audits of the elections, or a restructure on how it is conducted. There shouldn't be companies involved who can possibly be politically biased. The military can conduct it with observers from both sides observing or auditing the results every step of the way.
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If the Republicans are cheating then they deserve jail time. All the more reason to call for regular audits of the elections, or a restructure on how it is conducted. There shouldn't be companies involved who can possibly be politically biased. The military can conduct it with observers from both sides observing or auditing the results every step of the way.
Then doesn't it follow then every race, including the ones the Republicans won, should be subject to the same level of scrutiny?
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If the Republicans are cheating then they deserve jail time. All the more reason to call for regular audits of the elections, or a restructure on how it is conducted. There shouldn't be companies involved who can possibly be politically biased. The military can conduct it with observers from both sides observing or auditing the results every step of the way.
Then doesn't it follow then every race, including the ones the Republicans won, should be subject to the same level of scrutiny?
Yep. There should be heavy scrutiny, safeguards, and transparency for all elections, no matter who wins.
After the 2016 election Trump attempted an audit of the election he won because he suspected fraud. The mostly democrat states refused to participate and it was eventually closed.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did
States refused to cooperate and participate in an audit of their elections.
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If the Republicans are cheating then they deserve jail time. All the more reason to call for regular audits of the elections, or a restructure on how it is conducted. There shouldn't be companies involved who can possibly be politically biased. The military can conduct it with observers from both sides observing or auditing the results every step of the way.
Then doesn't it follow then every race, including the ones the Republicans won, should be subject to the same level of scrutiny?
Yep. There should be heavy scrutiny, safeguards, and transparency for all elections, no matter who wins.
After the 2016 election Trump attempted an audit of the election he won because he suspected fraud. The mostly democrat states refused to participate and it was eventually closed.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did
States refused to cooperate and participate in an audit of their elections.
Interesting indeed. Let me ask you another question. The people you talk to about all this generally who agree with you. Has anyone brought up the strong possibility of Lindsay Graham and Mitch Mcconnell stealing their own elections? Perhaps you should demand that they not be seated in the Senate until this is all sorted out.
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buahahaha anyone know if this is legit? hehe. I think he's a comedian though?
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buahahaha anyone know if this is legit? hehe. I think he's a comedian though?
Who, Trump?
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To be honest, I don't believe you. You talked so much about how Trump was going to win that it seems very odd for you to have typed all that and then plan otherwise. Also, not sure HOW you plan otherwise given we can't be sure exactly what will happen, given Congress is still in split control.
As for condescending:
Seriously? You, the party of morals and family values? Not being condescending to us godless, radical democrats? Rrrriiiiggghhhtt... I bet you wish you had another cup of lib tears, don't ya?
You are, quite literally describing yourself and the Republican party.
Care to find any proof of me saying Trump is going to win this election besides this thread when I said BOOOM Trump? That was simply for me being beyond shocked. Find anything before this since I "talked so much", the search function works fine.
If you do I will say you are right on everything and I am terrible... If you can't (which I know you can't), you have to admit you are a typical blowhard liberal. This whole time all I have said is what will happen if either wins, that I hope Trump does but doubtful. That I don't like Trump but I like Biden less, no different that 2016, just put Hillary in Biden's place.
If you actually paid attention, a democratic had my vote over Trump before he got booted (Yang). Crouton can vouch for this if he would like to be honest because he liked him as well, if not I am sure I can go back and find the convo.
I have also maintained many times over that we all need to work together and get everyone out of government, both sides are screwing us over and give no damns about us.
So, as usual you are showing your true colors, and fitting yourself in the box you claim not to wear.
(Oh and PS, don't give me shit about being so sad or alone being a democrat while Trump was in office. You had all of social media, news networks, entertainment, more than half of america etc etc etc on your side. You were just fine)
I do recall this fwiw.
I am not in a position to search well now but yes, I recall that too. Then he got booted and my memory tells me you were unhappy as you kept saying Trump will easily win because the Dems are dumb.
If I am unable to find this evidence then I will apologize and consider myself terrible and you are right on everything.
I'll even sig it.
Welp, I'm gonna go with mixed.
You jump a few times back and forth. You definitely support Trump with a hatred for Biden (Cause Yang got dropped).
But you rarely stated that you thought Trump would win and when you did, it was only specifically in a "I hope he wins because Biden is the worst" kinda way.
Sooo... yeah. I got your hatred of Biden mixed up with your thinking Trump will win. I appologize. Thus, I shall sig this:
I am a terrible person and I am a typical Blowhard Liberal for being wrong about Bom.
Thank you for admitting you were wrong about me, takes a man to do that. Yes, I don't like the Biden group, not a single bit. I think they stole the nomination from legitimate candidates just the way Hillary stole it from Bernie in 2016.
Though just as you showed your sense of honor and humor with your sig even though you never officially agreed, I will extend a signature of my own even though it was not stated in said agreement.
Cheers
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Just a heads up, BHS ( aka BOM ) likes to make everything about himself. Spoiler alert: It never is.
Dip shit's like yourself love to attack me personally, yet when I defend myself, y'all say I am making it about me.
Typical attempted mind games by the pathetic lefties here.... It's sad... I get hate because I see right through it and call it for what it is.
On another note.... Republicans are calling out all the election issues, which is considered "undemocratic" by the left wing establishment (aka, all mainstream media, social media and entertainment). Yet when the left and all their cronies (including all entities stated above) spent 4 years and countless dollars on a
Russian witch hunt, it was righteous. Yep, that makes sense...
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Feel free to delete them. I don't know of any other way to show that there is systemic chronic fraud and election issues without linking the evidence.
Since you admit you don't know how to argue correctly without spamming copy-pasted spam, let me explain how.
You post a link, you then post a SMALL, relevant section and then explain what this means and how it supports your argument. Your argument being Trump didn't lose. Then you continue with the next. If you get to the 100th link and still haven't made your point, recognize your argument is pretty thin.,
Try doing that for once instead of just posting a massive wall of mostly unrelated links that don't even support your own argument.
All your links showed was that out of three hundred million people, you get a few that do dumb stuff. Half of the links aren't even voter fraud, just mistakes or people being lazy or vandals. You show a few cases where a handful of votes were cast illegally. Then some links show large scale fraud like Republicans illegally removing hundreds of thousands of Democrats from the voting registrations.
Three hundred million people and yes there are going to be idiots. You haven't shown ANY evidence of wide scale Democratic fraud causing a shift in 5 million votes.
Try again.
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There are pages more of fraud and mail in ballot issues I can post, but won't. It's a systemic issue.
Study estimate: 28,000,000 ballots lost in last 3 elections
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html
When you have millions of ballots floating around that people can just collect in various ways and submit with a signature on it, it leaves the door wide open for fraud. There are plenty of people willing to commit it.
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There are pages more of fraud and mail in ballot issues I can post, but won't. It's a systemic issue.
Study estimate: 28,000,000 ballots lost in last 3 elections
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html
When you have millions of ballots floating around that people can just collect and submit and with a signature on it, it leaves the door wide open for fraud. There are plenty of people willing to commit it.
Ok, this is better.
So millions of ballots were sent out and not returned. That is completely normal, not everyone who requests a ballot will bother filling it out. I voted by mail and if I had been lazy or uninspired, I could have just thrown it away.
The article still doesn't show any actual cases of widespread voter fraud. Not enough to shift five million votes to Trump.
You are confusing an article that worries about possible fraud with your claim that it was actually committed, with no evidence.
Your claim is Democrats stole the election. This is still not evidence of it. I could use it to claim Republicans committed fraud.
Have any evidence of ACTUAL FRAUD committed by Democrats with enough votes to actually flip a state by 50,000 votes?
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There are pages more of fraud and mail in ballot issues I can post, but won't. It's a systemic issue.
Study estimate: 28,000,000 ballots lost in last 3 elections
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html
When you have millions of ballots floating around that people can just collect in various ways and submit with a signature on it, it leaves the door wide open for fraud. There are plenty of people willing to commit it.
Sure.
And when the poll workers match signatures and it fails, well, its not a very good fraud now is it?
You would need to take the voter rosters with signatures and make ballots based on that. Doable for someone with access but these systems rarely have 1 person with access so you'd need several, all willing to do illegal things. Some of them Republicans.
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Feel free to delete them. I don't know of any other way to show that there is systemic chronic fraud and election issues without linking the evidence.
Tom, how many of those links relate to the 2020 presidential election?
I don't think that anyone would deny that some level of fraud exists in any election. However, the trick is to show that the fraud was enough to affect the final results. So far, no one has done that with this election.
There are pages more of fraud and mail in ballot issues I can post, but won't. It's a systemic issue.
Study estimate: 28,000,000 ballots lost in last 3 elections
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html
When you have millions of ballots floating around that people can just collect in various ways and submit with a signature on it, it leaves the door wide open for fraud. There are plenty of people willing to commit it.
Are missing mail-in ballots a sign of election fraud or postal service incompetence?
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Feel free to delete them. I don't know of any other way to show that there is systemic chronic fraud and election issues without linking the evidence.
Tom, how many of those links relate to the 2020 presidential election?
I don't think that anyone would deny that some level of fraud exists in any election. However, the trick is to show that the fraud was enough to affect the final results. So far, no one has done that with this election.
That's because the election was a week ago and you have to wait for the evidence of what occurred to be collected and presented.
Trump's legal team have now jumped on the Dominion Voting Machine narrative alleging mass fraud.
(https://i.imgur.com/8ZRIVZ3.png)
Are missing mail-in ballots a sign of election fraud or postal service incompetence?
Who knows? That's why there should be audits, rather than no audits. That article used it to question the security of the election.
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Chris Wallace during the first debate: “Will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently certified?” Joe Biden: “Yes.”
Whoops.
Video: https://twitter.com/SocialM85897394/status/1326483692202635265
(https://i.imgur.com/Z1DZxYV.jpg)
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Feel free to delete them. I don't know of any other way to show that there is systemic chronic fraud and election issues without linking the evidence.
Tom, how many of those links relate to the 2020 presidential election?
I don't think that anyone would deny that some level of fraud exists in any election. However, the trick is to show that the fraud was enough to affect the final results. So far, no one has done that with this election.
That's because the election was a week ago and you have to wait for the evidence of what occurred to be collected and presented.
Don't you think that Trump's legal team should collect the evidence before filing the lawsuits so that they have something to present?
Are missing mail-in ballots a sign of election fraud or postal service incompetence?
Who knows? That's why there should be audits, rather than no audits. That article used it to question the security of the election.
Check me if I'm wrong, but a recent Trump appointee is in charge of the postal service. If there was any systemic fraud with mail-in voting, then it seems that the postal service would be in a good position to make sure that the fraud favors Trump.
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Chris Wallace during the first debate: “Will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently certified?” Joe Biden: “Yes.”
Whoops.
FOX News declared Biden the winner. How much more independent can you get?
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The claims certainly seem credible enough for Georgia to announce today that they are conducting a full audit.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1326539346372038659
(https://i.imgur.com/AXzi3QI.png)
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/georgia-hold-first-ever-audit-election-results-wednesday/IGGCKZEHRFFQTBAWGBP7SPJNYM/
There is also some chatter that Giuliani also apparently said on the War Room show that whistleblowers have come forward about the Dominion machines.
(https://i.imgur.com/UKtW5ZD.png)
https://listen.warroom.org/
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dan-patrick-texas-lt-governor-1-million-reward-voter-fraud-evidence/
Houston — Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick announced Tuesday that he would pay up to $1 million from his campaign account to incentivize, encourage and reward people to come forward and report voter fraud from anywhere in the country, CBS Dallas Fort Worth reports.
"Whistleblowers and tipsters should turn over their evidence to local law enforcement. Anyone who provides information that leads to an arrest and final conviction of voter fraud will be paid a minimum of $25,000," said Patrick in a news release.
If there was so much voter fraud, would they have to pay for evidence?
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It probably means that they don't yet have the legal smoking gun needed to wrap this up. I can only assume that Texas is using the reward to incite a corruption purge, and that it has something to to with the recent string of high profile voter fraud in Texas involving a Biden Campaign Operative and a State Senator. This one is especially damning because the Biden campaign team is apparently implicated, and a senator is involved.
Biden Campaign Operative, Texas State Senator Accused of Mail-in Ballot Fraud - https://thetexan.news/biden-campaign-operative-texas-state-senator-accused-of-mail-in-ballot-fraud/
Also:
Project Veritas Drops NUKE — GOP Ballot Chaser Admits to Major Voter Fraud Operation in Texas to Help Biden — ‘$55K for 5,000 Votes’ (VIDEO) - https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2092105168418/project-veritas-drops-nuke-gop-ballot-chaser-admits-to-major-voter-fraud-operation-in-texas-to-help-biden-55k-for-5000-votes-video
Patrick Howley: FBI interrogated Dallas Jones & others in biggest election fraud bust in US history. Fake driver licenses from China, nursing home patients denied food until vote as told - https://twitter.com/Mareq16/status/1324692724906364928
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Patrick Howley: FBI interrogated Dallas Jones & others in biggest election fraud bust in US history. Fake driver licenses from China, nursing home patients denied food until vote as told - https://twitter.com/Mareq16/status/1324692724906364928
Wow, a tweet from MaReQ - who uses a pepe the frog avatar. Evidence doesn't get much stronger than that.
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It probably means that they don't yet have the legal smoking gun needed to wrap this up. I can only assume that Texas is using the reward to incite a corruption purge, and that it has something to to with the recent string of high profile voter fraud in Texas involving a Biden Campaign Operative and a State Senator. This one is especially damning because the Biden campaign team is apparently implicated, and a senator is involved.
Biden Campaign Operative, Texas State Senator Accused of Mail-in Ballot Fraud - https://thetexan.news/biden-campaign-operative-texas-state-senator-accused-of-mail-in-ballot-fraud/
How serious can the fraud in Texas be if Trump won the state by 650K votes?
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https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/11/10/gop-list-of-alleged-voter-fraud-nevada-contains-hundreds-of-military-addresses.html
A letter sent Nov. 5 on behalf of President Donald Trump's reelection campaign to Attorney General William Barr alleges that 3,062 voters who do not live in the state of Nevada "improperly cast" absentee ballots in the 2020 election.
But the list that accompanies the letter of those accused of "criminal voter fraud" contains hundreds of overseas military post office boxes and more than 1,000 locations where military personnel are stationed, such as Minot, North Dakota; Edwards and Fort Irwin, California; Hill Air Force Base, Utah; Carlisle, Pennsylvania; and Yuma, Arizona.
To at least one military spouse whose residences of Henderson, Nevada, and Davis, California, are listed -- with their specific nine-digit ZIP codes (exact addresses are not included) -- finding herself and her husband, an Air Force major, on the list was "shocking."
"To see my integrity challenged, along with other members of the military to be challenged in this way, it is a shock. And to be potentially disenfranchised because of these actions, that's not OK," said Amy Rose, who votes absentee and claims Henderson as her home while the couple is stationed in California.
I guess supporting the troops is not the conservative mantra anymore.
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https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/11/10/gop-list-of-alleged-voter-fraud-nevada-contains-hundreds-of-military-addresses.html
A letter sent Nov. 5 on behalf of President Donald Trump's reelection campaign to Attorney General William Barr alleges that 3,062 voters who do not live in the state of Nevada "improperly cast" absentee ballots in the 2020 election.
But the list that accompanies the letter of those accused of "criminal voter fraud" contains hundreds of overseas military post office boxes and more than 1,000 locations where military personnel are stationed, such as Minot, North Dakota; Edwards and Fort Irwin, California; Hill Air Force Base, Utah; Carlisle, Pennsylvania; and Yuma, Arizona.
To at least one military spouse whose residences of Henderson, Nevada, and Davis, California, are listed -- with their specific nine-digit ZIP codes (exact addresses are not included) -- finding herself and her husband, an Air Force major, on the list was "shocking."
"To see my integrity challenged, along with other members of the military to be challenged in this way, it is a shock. And to be potentially disenfranchised because of these actions, that's not OK," said Amy Rose, who votes absentee and claims Henderson as her home while the couple is stationed in California.
I guess supporting the troops is not the conservative mantra anymore.
If I'm not mistaken, not only can military votes show up in that manner, but also college students and people living outside the US, right? Lord Dave should be able to answer on the last one, do you get to vote in the city and state of your last residence?
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Federal Election Commission Chairman Drops Bombshell: ‘This Election Is Illegitimate’
https://newspunch.com/federal-election-commission-chairman-drops-bombshell-this-election-is-illegitimate/
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NewsPunch, the home of the pizzagate conspiracy theory.
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Federal Election Commission Chairman Drops Bombshell: ‘This Election Is Illegitimate’
https://newspunch.com/federal-election-commission-chairman-drops-bombshell-this-election-is-illegitimate/
How serious can the fraud in Texas be if Trump won the state by 650K votes?
The fraud in Texas is probably very concerning. Trump won it in 2016 by almost a million votes, and has only become a more popular with TX Republicans since then.
It's only a bombshell to you, Tom. To everyone else it's just another clueless Trump appointee parroting Trumps claim with no evidence.
You really do hate democracy. You're ready to throw it all out the window because your God-anointed savior got his ass kicked.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, Biden is the President elect, and nobody has shown ANY evidence of massive voter fraud.
You can cream your pants at the thought of Georgia doing a recount, and imagine it's all party of THE STORM but Georgia doing a recount was always expected. It's what you do in a close race, and it's not going to change anything.
See, this is what happens when you START with a conclusion "Trump is unbeatable!" and then make up evidence based on your pre-existing belief. You think since Trump CAN'T be beat, then it must all be lies. Democrats must have cheated. But you don't have any evidence, just Trump tweeting angerly because he's a loser.
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Federal Election Commission Chairman Drops Bombshell: ‘This Election Is Illegitimate’
It sounds like the FEC is responsible for counting the beans, not the ballots.
Mission and history
The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is the independent regulatory agency charged with administering and enforcing the federal campaign finance law. The FEC has jurisdiction over the financing of campaigns for the U.S. House, Senate, Presidency and the Vice Presidency.
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Here's the video of the FEC Chairman:
It's only a bombshell to you, Tom. To everyone else it's just another clueless Trump appointee parroting Trumps claim with no evidence.
It doesn't matter that he's a Trump appointee. He's the FEC Chairman. It's not all about what you think. You neglect to realize that there are many, many people in positions of power who are conservatives, such as judges, put in place by the Bush, Bush Sr. and Trump administrations, as well as scores of elected republicans, who do view this as notable news that the FEC Chairman is calling fraud. Average non-political people would also find it notable.
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I watched the video, he never said the election was illegitimate. He said "if" a lot.
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He comes pretty close to saying that he thinks it's an illegitimate election, if he did not technically say that. Clearly a negative stance on the matter.
From the transcript of that clip:
@1:23
"I do believe that there's voter fraud
taking place in these places otherwise
they would allow the observers to go in
when you have claims of you know 10 000
people who don't live in the state of Nevada
uh having voted in Nevada you have the
video showing where people are
you know they're either they're either
duplicating a a spoiled ballot right there
or they're uh in the process of just
marking a ballot that came in blank
uh for a voter that's a process that
needs to be observed by election
observers state law allows those
observers to be in there
and if they're not then the law is not
being followed making this
an illegitimate election."
@4:39:
"From what I've seen of the lawsuits
there are very valid allegations that
are being made that need to be fully
vetted by the court system."
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Here's the video of the FEC Chairman:
It's only a bombshell to you, Tom. To everyone else it's just another clueless Trump appointee parroting Trumps claim with no evidence.
It doesn't matter that he's a Trump appointee. He's the FEC Chairman. It's not all about what you think. You neglect to realize that there are many, many people in positions of power who are conservatives, such as judges, put in place by the Bush, Bush Sr. and Trump administrations, as well as scores of elected republicans, who do view this as notable news that the FEC Chairman is calling fraud. Average non-political people would also find it notable.
You said this before.
Do you think that people appointed by a Republican are so loyal they will literally throw out a legitimate election and elect their guy instead?
Because that's how you think? Do anything if it supports YOU and screw anyone else?
No.. all these judges and 'people in power' are not going to blindly follow Trump and do his bidding. You might happily follow that clown into TOTAL WAR but thank God you are a minority.
You lost. Get over it.
https://twitter.com/ChristiaanVanV/status/1325694189451927552
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Saying valid allegations should be fully vetted by the courts is perfectly sensible. Claiming that is the same as saying the election is illegitimate is nuts.
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He comes pretty close to saying that he thinks it's an illegitimate election, if he did not technically say that. Clearly a negative stance on the matter.
From the transcript of that clip:
@1:23
"I do believe that there's voter fraud
taking place in these places otherwise
they would allow the observers to go in
when you have claims of you know 10 000
people who don't live in the state of Nevada
uh having voted in Nevada you have the
video showing where people are
you know they're either they're either
duplicating a a spoiled ballot right there
or they're uh in the process of just
marking a ballot that came in blank
uh for a voter that's a process that
needs to be observed by election
observers state law allows those
observers to be in there
and if they're not then the law is not
being followed making this
an illegitimate election."
@4:39:
"From what I've seen of the lawsuits
there are very valid allegations that
are being made that need to be fully
vetted by the court system."
All BS
Observers were in. Illegal not to have
The only people that weren't allowed in was the rabid pork chops banging and screaming on the windows demanding to be let inside to watch over the people counting the votes. OF COURSE they aren't allowed in.
If there were official observers barred from doing their job I think there would be much bigger trouble by now. Independent international election monitors have also not seen any foul play. None of them.
Stop listening to BS nonsense. So far every conspiracy theory has been debunked. Every nonsense claim fact checked and laughed away. Just accept that Trump is no longer your liege.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/11/mississippi-secede-election-republican/
Mississippi Republican calls for his state to ‘succeed from the union’ after Biden victory
As the dust settles from the 2020 presidential election, one disappointed Mississippi lawmaker has a proposition for the Magnolia State. Instead of being governed by President-elect Joe Biden, state Rep. Price Wallace (R) reportedly said on Twitter that Mississippi should “succeed” from the rest of the United States and form its own country.
Yeah, Mississippi would be a great third world country.
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The Times Called Officials in Every State: No Evidence of Voter Fraud
"The president and his allies have baselessly claimed that rampant voter fraud stole victory from him. Officials contacted by The Times said that there were no irregularities that affected the outcome.
PHILADELPHIA — Election officials in dozens of states representing both political parties said that there was no evidence that fraud or other irregularities played a role in the outcome of the presidential race, amounting to a forceful rebuke of President Trump’s portrait of a fraudulent election."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/us/politics/voting-fraud.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/11/mississippi-secede-election-republican/
Mississippi Republican calls for his state to ‘succeed from the union’ after Biden victory
As the dust settles from the 2020 presidential election, one disappointed Mississippi lawmaker has a proposition for the Magnolia State. Instead of being governed by President-elect Joe Biden, state Rep. Price Wallace (R) reportedly said on Twitter that Mississippi should “succeed” from the rest of the United States and form its own country.
Yeah, Mississippi would be a great third world country.
Do conservatives want to start ANOTHER Civil War?
Time to kick their ass, again.
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Further chatter that Giuliani is claiming that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.
https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1326555434405097477
(https://i.imgur.com/gKPkulb.png)
Agreed. Probably the biggest scandal short of historical royal assassinations if true.
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Further chatter that Giuliani is claiming that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.
https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1326555434405097477
(https://i.imgur.com/gKPkulb.png)
Agreed. Probably the biggest modern scandal short of historical royal assassinations if true.
Lol sure. Go take your meds, pls.
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Further chatter that Giuliani is claiming that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.
https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1326555434405097477
(https://i.imgur.com/gKPkulb.png)
Agreed. Probably the biggest modern scandal short of historical royal assassinations if true.
You realize it's Giuliani we're talking here? You know, the Hunter-Laptop-Borat-Lapdance guy.
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Further chatter that Giuliani is claiming that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.
https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1326555434405097477
(https://i.imgur.com/gKPkulb.png)
Agreed. Probably the biggest modern scandal short of historical royal assassinations if true.
Oh Great! Finally, some people with tangible evidence to back up all these fraud claims. Cant wait for it to be presented in the court ::)
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HOLY SHIT YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME. I just watched the video from rudy giuliani and the guys is litterally presenting an ad in the middle of his 'election theft' video with a promocode. And guess what, it's an ad for cigarrs. So cancer is advertising for cancer. HOLY SHIT you couldn't make that shit up.
min 11:10
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Further chatter that Giuliani is claiming that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.
https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1326555434405097477
(https://i.imgur.com/gKPkulb.png)
Agreed. Probably the biggest modern scandal short of historical royal assassinations if true.
You realize it's Giuliani we're talking here? You know, the Hunter-Laptop-Borat-Lapdance guy.
I've just watched borat 2, ngl the giuliani guy is kinda creepy but he didn't do anything morally wrong.
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Further chatter that Giuliani is claiming that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.
https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1326555434405097477
(https://i.imgur.com/gKPkulb.png)
Agreed. Probably the biggest modern scandal short of historical royal assassinations if true.
You realize it's Giuliani we're talking here? You know, the Hunter-Laptop-Borat-Lapdance guy.
I've just watched borat 2, ngl the giuliani guy is kinda creepy but he didn't do anything morally wrong.
That's because a half naked man in a very off putting getup burst into the room and stopped him.
Tucking in his shirt my arse
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Further chatter that Giuliani is claiming that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.
https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1326555434405097477
(https://i.imgur.com/gKPkulb.png)
Agreed. Probably the biggest scandal short of historical royal assassinations if true.
*yawn* Wake me up when those whistle blowers step in front of a judge.
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Further chatter that Giuliani is claiming that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.
https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1326555434405097477
(https://i.imgur.com/gKPkulb.png)
Agreed. Probably the biggest modern scandal short of historical royal assassinations if true.
You realize it's Giuliani we're talking here? You know, the Hunter-Laptop-Borat-Lapdance guy.
I've just watched borat 2, ngl the giuliani guy is kinda creepy but he didn't do anything morally wrong.
That's because a half naked man in a very off putting getup burst into the room and stopped him.
Tucking in his shirt my arse
If he was touching his peen, would that have been morally wrong?
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Further chatter that Giuliani is claiming that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.
https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1326555434405097477
(https://i.imgur.com/gKPkulb.png)
Agreed. Probably the biggest scandal short of historical royal assassinations if true.
Rudy Giuliani claims all kinds of stuff. If the source of your convictions is Rudy is saying it, that's pretty sad.
Where is he announcing it this time? Going back to the Four Seasons? Rudy and Trump are a joke at this point.
GO STORM, GO! ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/A0evipb.jpg)
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Further chatter that Giuliani is claiming that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.
https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1326555434405097477
(https://i.imgur.com/gKPkulb.png)
Agreed. Probably the biggest modern scandal short of historical royal assassinations if true.
You realize it's Giuliani we're talking here? You know, the Hunter-Laptop-Borat-Lapdance guy.
I've just watched borat 2, ngl the giuliani guy is kinda creepy but he didn't do anything morally wrong.
That's because a half naked man in a very off putting getup burst into the room and stopped him.
Tucking in his shirt my arse
If he was touching his peen, would that have been morally wrong?
Like most things in life, there is a time and place.
Maybe in Swedesville you guys are a little more liberal about it
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I've just watched borat 2, ngl the giuliani guy is kinda creepy but he didn't do anything morally wrong.
It's not that he's morally wrong that is so worrying. It's how easy he was to entrap. This is one of the world's most famous comedians, just imagine what a foreign intelligence agency could do with him
They'd have cloned his phone and photocopied the contents of his briefcase while he was still slobbering over some Russian cleavage (not a bad name for a band 8)).
He may have been a fine lawyer at some point, but he's just a degenerate old fool now.
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Further chatter that Giuliani is claiming that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.
https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1326555434405097477
(https://i.imgur.com/gKPkulb.png)
Agreed. Probably the biggest scandal short of historical royal assassinations if true.
It’s the pant wetting excitement that’s so depressing. Rudy’s dug up another “whistleblower” (not the one who later admitted he made it all up), so obviously 10s of millions more votes for Trump? This is someone who has lost it.
The legal cases are being thrown out left and right. Why is that? Why not carefully put together a strong case and present that to a judge? Because it’s most likely all bullocks. It’s legal gish gallop.
They are simultaneously alleging that postal votes are fundamentally undemocratic, that postal votes arriving after Election Day don’t count (but others do), that honest Republican postal votes are being changed, etc, etc. These are mutually exclusive arguments. And they are turning up to court without a scrap of evidence to present.
The only plausible explanation for all these spurious legal actions is that they aren’t trying to win them. They are just trying to throw everything into confusion and hang up the process as long as possible, casting doubt on the whole system.
Isn’t it just possible that strongly Democrat supporting cities like Detroit and Philadelphia that Trump has personally insulted voted for the other guy?
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Interesting. That video that Bom posted is now deleted. Big tech is actively flagging or deleting election misinformation. They are now flocking to Parler.
An interesting dilemma for Parler. Their commitment to free speech is being used to attempt to destroy liberal democracy which would in turn eventually destroy free speech.
Facebook will die if all the Trumpeters flock away from it. They are all that's left there.
Yesterday my 76yr old mother asked me what Parler is. lol
My friend's mom posted something on FB yesterday that talked about new FB, new Twitter, new search engine, new everything online to combat big tech.
The funny thing is people have already tried to replace FB, no one talks about Gab anymore, but it was supposed to be the new FB years ago.
(https://i.ibb.co/NjMvvt2/fes.png)
George Soros owns everything!
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Interesting. That video that Bom posted is now deleted. Big tech is actively flagging or deleting election misinformation. They are now flocking to Parler.
An interesting dilemma for Parler. Their commitment to free speech is being used to attempt to destroy liberal democracy which would in turn eventually destroy free speech.
Facebook will die if all the Trumpeters flock away from it. They are all that's left there.
Yesterday my 76yr old mother asked me what Parler is. lol
My friend's mom posted something on FB yesterday that talked about new FB, new Twitter, new search engine, new everything online to combat big tech.
The funny thing is people have already tried to replace FB, no one talks about Gab anymore, but it was supposed to be the new FB years ago.
(https://i.ibb.co/NjMvvt2/fes.png)
George Soros owns everything!
In other Parker news, it's supposedly partially owned by Saudis, or financially backed by them. They have also started banning a lot of users recently.
https://www.newsweek.com/parler-ted-cruz-approved-free-speech-app-already-banning-users-1514358
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https://in.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll/nearly-80-of-americans-say-biden-won-white-house-ignoring-trumps-refusal-to-concede-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN27Q3ED
Almost 80% of Americans in a national poll (for whatever they're worth these days) believe Biden won the election. 13% believe it is still undecided
Looks like Americans overall aren't as stupid as Trump and Rudy think. The longer they drag this out, the more damage they will do to the flailing 'Trump' brand. He's already trashed his legacy
Time for Trump to save what's left of his face and concede graciously.
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George Soros owns everything!
LOL Dan Bongino is complaining about misinformation.... KARMA is a beautiful thing
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/11/mississippi-secede-election-republican/
Mississippi Republican calls for his state to ‘succeed from the union’ after Biden victory
As the dust settles from the 2020 presidential election, one disappointed Mississippi lawmaker has a proposition for the Magnolia State. Instead of being governed by President-elect Joe Biden, state Rep. Price Wallace (R) reportedly said on Twitter that Mississippi should “succeed” from the rest of the United States and form its own country.
Yeah, Mississippi would be a great third world country.
Do conservatives want to start ANOTHER Civil War?
Time to kick their ass, again.
SCG
That happens every time in Texas when a dem gets into office. Only difference is we could be self supporting, though obviously it will never happen. I think the biggest I saw was like 1.5 million people sign the petition.. myself included ha ha.
JJA
You should check your history before spouting nonsense per the usual.
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JJA
You should check your history before spouting nonsense per the usual.
I'm pretty sure America won the Civil War.
Very confident it was southern, conservative slave holding states that started it, then got their asses kicked by the northern libs.
We will do it again if needed.
You guys are good at losing, I'll give you that. But being on the wrong side of literally everything in history will do that to a movement.
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Well shit, you can't watch the video of this hearing now, but you can read about it https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/watch-live-judge-hears-lawsuit-in-michigan-that-seeks-to-overturn-election-result/ and you can read the "live tweets" from when it was live. https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1326624975655215108?s=20
OH edited because you can watch the hearing here
BHS the difference is that Texas could survive if it seceded, Mississippi not so much. What do they have, a port and a Chevy plant?
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JJA
You should check your history before spouting nonsense per the usual.
I'm pretty sure America won the Civil War.
Very confident it was southern, conservative slave holding states that started it, then got their asses kicked by the northern libs.
We will do it again if needed.
You guys are good at losing, I'll give you that. But being on the wrong side of literally everything in history will do that to a movement.
I have a sneaking suspicion he's going to say with a straight face that the Democrats (which, of course, means modern day liberals in all contexts at all times) are the ones that seceded, thereby demonstrating exactly how much history he has studied while asserting that you should study yours. Let's watch and find out though!
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JJA
You should check your history before spouting nonsense per the usual.
I'm pretty sure America won the Civil War.
Very confident it was southern, conservative slave holding states that started it, then got their asses kicked by the northern libs.
We will do it again if needed.
You guys are good at losing, I'll give you that. But being on the wrong side of literally everything in history will do that to a movement.
I have a sneaking suspicion he's going to say with a straight face that the Democrats (which, of course, means modern day liberals in all contexts at all times) are the ones that seceded, thereby demonstrating exactly how much history he has studied while asserting that you should study yours. Let's watch and find out though!
Yeah. "But, but, but Lincoln was a Republican!!!"
Like I haven't heard that one a thousand times before. Thanks a lot, Dick.
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BHS the difference is that Texas could survive if it seceded, Mississippi not so much. What do they have, a port and a Chevy plant?
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/mississippi
Hmm...
Meth? I guess. Lots of meth. Probably hydrocodone too.
Unlike Utah which has the rank of 3rd best state overall. But the rankings don't take into account all the Mormons we have so it's really more like 25th.
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BHS the difference is that Texas could survive if it seceded, Mississippi not so much. What do they have, a port and a Chevy plant?
They have Iron Man.
https://starkaerospace.com/
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BHS the difference is that Texas could survive if it seceded, Mississippi not so much. What do they have, a port and a Chevy plant?
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/mississippi
Hmm...
Meth? I guess. Lots of meth. Probably hydrocodone too.
Unlike Utah which has the rank of 3rd best state overall. But the rankings don't take into account all the Mormons we have so it's really more like 25th.
Florida is not the worst! We're #13!
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lol
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The real election fraud? https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/11/11/evidence-suggests-several-state-senate-candidates-were-plants-funded-by-dark-money/
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You guys know that many Dems are dirty and that many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
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You guys know that many Dems are dirty and that many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
So is that speculation your evidence?
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You guys know that many Dems are dirty and that many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
Everybody on the planet, except the brainwashed few hate Trump for the lying slimy con-man that he is. So what's your point?
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You guys know that many Dems are dirty and that many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
I'd domit agaijst Biden.
First I'd convince a few Trump suporters that the election is rigged. Then I'd have more ballots than voters prepared with Trump and republicans on the ballot. I would have the supporters deliver them. They'd be turned away immediately and/or arrested. The ballots collected as evidence. The story would be buried under election news. Until Trump blew up and demanded full investigstions.
https://www.kmov.com/news/report-armed-men-arrested-in-philadelphia-were-trying-to-deliver-fake-ballots/article_12ee5e77-a724-5633-9c52-6bc3ae91a28b.html
Like that.
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You guys know that many Dems are dirty and that many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
How exactly? You're a US citizen and a voter right? I'm sure you're aware that it's more involved than just writing a name on a piece of paper and dropping it in a box. Your name and address are attached to your ballot. Say I lived in a swing state like Nevada. Trump is behind by about 31,000 votes. Did I xerox my ballot 31,000 times and just hope that no one ever notices the same household voted 31,000 times?
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You guys know that many Dems are dirty and that many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
I suggest you give cash to the good clean Republicans then.
Trump’s “Official Election Defense Fund” is asking for YOUR money to help SAVE AMERICA!
The really good news is that you only have to donate $8000 before any of your money goes towards anything challenging election results.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-fundraising-insigh-idUSKBN27R309
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Well, no one is even denying that many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
This isn't speculation if it's the concensus. It's more like established knowledge. Asking "How?" is irrelevant to this established knowledge that people hate Trump enough to commit fraud. Some may work or volunteer for the election places, others are mailmen, ballot harvesters, or are programmers.
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Guys I have a confession to make
I hate Trump so much, I voted for Biden too. Tens of thousands of times all over America despite living here in Australia
Rudy, if you're reading this, jump on this as proof and evidence of the fraud and submit it to court. I think I heard you guys are paying people who submit their fraud stories? Hit me up man 8) Thanks
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I knew it!
Shit, Tom... I think we owe you an apology. It was Shifter all along.
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I'm getting 10-20 Trump begging emails a day currently, 1000% match, I hear the Trump campaign is in debt to the tune of 400 million or so, that's why they are trying to keep the charade going as long as possible. Gives them more time to fleece the dumb yokels of their hard earned.
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Well, no one is even denying that many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
This isn't speculation if it's the concensus. It's more like established knowledge. Asking "How?" is irrelevant to this established knowledge that people hate Trump enough to commit fraud. Some may work or volunteer for the election places, others are mailmen, ballot harvesters, or are programmers.
Is this the best you have Tom, really?
A good proportion of your country, (probably the same ones who won’t concede they’ve lost) hated Obama, didn’t stop him getting consecutive terms.
The “How” is acutely relevant considering the 10’s 0f thousand necessary to pull this off, your list of a few here and there attempts, mostly failures, just doesn’t cut it and seeing as your orange blimp of a god has singularly failed to come up with any actual proof, his and your mudslinging against your own people and its constitution is deeply damaging.
Do you realise just what the rest of the world is saying about you?
Allies, most of whom have already congratulated Biden on his win, are wondering if this buffoon and his mind-slaves are going for the coup, enemies are rubbing their hands together at the projection of paralysis within the US and the neutrals are shaking their heads and thinking “Jesus fucking Christ, can’t respond in a meaningful way to covid, can’t run an election or get rid of a moron, are we supposed to look at these people as leaders of the free world?”
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Well, no one is even denying that many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
This isn't speculation if it's the concensus. It's more like established knowledge. Asking "How?" is irrelevant to this established knowledge that people hate Trump enough to commit fraud. Some may work or volunteer for the election places, others are mailmen, ballot harvesters, or are programmers.
So because 10% of Republicans are die-hard Trump worshipers, what they say must be true? Do you realize how stupid that sounds? It's irrelevant because you have no proof other than your own delusions.
Yes, Trump lost because people hate him. So they voted for Biden instead. One of the reasons Hillary lost was so much hate for her on the right.
Trump is now throwing America under the bus because he can't admit he lost.
Actually, lets not mince words. Trump is an America-hating traitor who with the help of the GOP and his idiot followers is trying to undermine public confidence in the most important foundation of our entire Democracy.
And you are gleefully, happily, willingly helping him.
For a political party that prides itself on how much it loves America, you guys are doing serious, lasting damage to our country now. You should be ashamed, and I hope after Trump has been kicked out of office and few years go by, you realize how terrible his, and your actions were.
You lost. Get over it.
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This isn't speculation if it's the concensus. It's more like established knowledge. Asking "How?" is irrelevant to this established knowledge that people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
Good luck with that in court. A ballsy move.
Don't change Tom.
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Well, no one is even denying that many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
This isn't speculation if it's the concensus. It's more like established knowledge. Asking "How?" is irrelevant to this established knowledge that people hate Trump enough to commit fraud. Some may work or volunteer for the election places, others are mailmen, ballot harvesters, or are programmers.
So because 10% of Republicans are die-hard Trump worshipers, what they say must be true? Do you realize how stupid that sounds? It's irrelevant because you have no proof other than your own delusions.
Yes, Trump lost because people hate him. So they voted for Biden instead. One of the reasons Hillary lost was so much hate for her on the right.
Trump is now throwing America under the bus because he can't admit he lost.
Actually, lets not mince words. Trump is an America-hating traitor who with the help of the GOP and his idiot followers is trying to undermine public confidence in the most important foundation of our entire Democracy.
And you are gleefully, happily, willingly helping him.
For a political party that prides itself on how much it loves America, you guys are doing serious, lasting damage to our country now. You should be ashamed, and I hope after Trump has been kicked out of office and few years go by, you realize how terrible his, and your actions were.
You lost. Get over it.
Incorrect. He won. He just doesn't know it yet. If Trump pulled off another win, he and the rest of America would have surely lost.
There is a big stink in the GOP right now. History will remember that they were the only party to try and subvert democracy and whinge at a fair and square election loss.
Actually it wasn't even fair and square. It was an uphill battle for the Democrats as Trump schemed his way at undermining the post office, ballot drop off points, voter suppression tactics etc.
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You guys know that many Dems are dirty and that many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
And you know that many Reps are dirty and that many people hate Biden enough to commit fraud.
Doesn't mean it happened either way.
P.S. Looking at your other comments in this thread, I can see exactly why you're a flat Earth'er. Cheers.
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I mean, Republicans were the ones who put out unauthorized ballot collection boxes in California and were told by the Sec. of State to take them down, which they didn't.
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Well, no one is even denying that many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
This isn't speculation if it's the concensus. It's more like established knowledge. Asking "How?" is irrelevant to this established knowledge that people hate Trump enough to commit fraud. Some may work or volunteer for the election places, others are mailmen, ballot harvesters, or are programmers.
Well, no one is even denying that many people hate Clinton enough to commit fraud.
This isn't speculation if it's the concensus. It's more like established knowledge. Asking "How?" is irrelevant to this established knowledge that people hate Clinton enough to commit fraud. Some may work or volunteer for the election places, others are mailmen, ballot harvesters, or are programmers.
So in clonclusion, Trump rigged the 2016 election(which he admits was rigged) and should never have been president.
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Well, no one is even denying that many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud.
This isn't speculation if it's the concensus. It's more like established knowledge. Asking "How?" is irrelevant to this established knowledge that people hate Trump enough to commit fraud. Some may work or volunteer for the election places, others are mailmen, ballot harvesters, or are programmers.
The consensus is that the earth is round. So much for the consensus being the final arbiter of truth.
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"Many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud"
> All nods in agreement
"So they did."
> Nooooooooooo
Pretty redic.
Bringing up how people hated Clinton is just agreement that there needs to be audits.
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Tom, do you think many individuals committed voter fraud, or do you think the Democratic party committed election fraud?
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Bringing up how people hated Clinton is just agreement that there needs to be audits.
When has an audit ever overturned the results of an election?
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"Many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud"
> All nods in agreement
"So they did."
> Nooooooooooo
Pretty redic.
Bringing up how people hated Clinton is just agreement that there needs to be audits.
Many hated him enough to want him dead.
How many people have tried? Answer? 0.
Just because your morals are so lose you'll lie and cheat without conscious, doesn't mean most people would.
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"Many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud"
> All nods in agreement
"So they did."
> Nooooooooooo
Pretty redic.
Bringing up how people hated Clinton is just agreement that there needs to be audits.
So you think it's ok to refuse to accept the results of the election until you have 'audits'. What the heck do you even mean by audits?
How come you happily accepted the 2016 election results without 'audits'?
It looks to me like you just hate the fact you lost and are making up any excuse you can to deny reality.
No, we don't need 'audits' to know Trump lost. Audits aren't going to find 5 million more votes for Trump.
Look at yourself, Tom. America has never in it's entire existence not had a peaceful transition of power from one President to the next.
You want to change that. You want WAR. That's sick. It's anti-American. You should go move to a country run by a dictator so you don't need to vote anymore, since you don't want to accept the results. You can be as mad and pissed as you want but this is America and the people choose who represents us. Trump was hired, now he's fired. It's no longer his job, it's not HIS decision to say.
You lost. Get over it, or leave.
https://twitter.com/ChristiaanVanV/status/1325694189451927552
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"Many people hate Trump enough to commit fraud"
> All nods in agreement
"So they did."
> Nooooooooooo
Pretty redic.
Bringing up how people hated Clinton is just agreement that there needs to be audits.
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Many hated him enough to want him dead.
How many people have tried? Answer? 0.
Just because your morals are so lose you'll lie and cheat without conscious, doesn't mean most people would.
Wanting politicians put to death is really something I've only seen you suggest on this forum and the tfes.org forum. I don't think that one is really that prevalent.
And there have been assassination attempts against Trump.
How come you happily accepted the 2016 election results without 'audits'?
I wouldn't be happy if there were voting irregularities. I did agree with the attempts to audit the election that were being attempted at the time:
After the 2016 election Trump attempted an audit of the election he won because he suspected fraud. The mostly democrat states refused to participate and it was eventually closed.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did
States refused to cooperate and participate in an audit of their elections.
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I wouldn't be happy if there were voting irregularities. I did agree with the attempts to audit the election that were being attempted at the time:
But there were irregularities. For one, an asshole was elected.
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Many hated him enough to want him dead.
How many people have tried? Answer? 0.
Just because your morals are so lose you'll lie and cheat without conscious, doesn't mean most people would.
Wanting politicians put to death is really something I've only seen you suggest on this forum and the tfes.org forum. I don't think that one is really that prevalent.
And there have been assassination attempts against Trump.
How come you happily accepted the 2016 election results without 'audits'?
I wouldn't be happy if there were voting irregularities. I did agree with the attempts to audit the election that were being attempted at the time:
After the 2016 election Trump attempted an audit of the election he won because he suspected fraud. The mostly democrat states refused to participate and it was eventually closed.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did
States refused to cooperate and participate in an audit of their elections.
Care to point to an assassination attempt on Trump? This is the only time I've heard anything about that.
Also, Trump didn't attempt to audit the 2016 election, he put together a commission in order to find fraud that would have given him the popular vote as well as the EC vote. That commission didn't find anything and was dismantled.
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How come you happily accepted the 2016 election results without 'audits'?
I wouldn't be happy if there were voting irregularities. I did agree with the attempts to audit the election that were being attempted at the time:
After the 2016 election Trump attempted an audit of the election he won because he suspected fraud. The mostly democrat states refused to participate and it was eventually closed.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did
States refused to cooperate and participate in an audit of their elections.
No, Tom. That was not an 'audit'.
That was republicans searching for any evidence of election fraud so they could impose more restrictions on voting and continue to suppress votes. Democratic states were right to do what they did and not hand over peoples private information to a bunch of hacks.
But they didn't find shit even with the full cooperation of Republican states. They looked at a billion votes and found a dozen fraudulent votes that had already been caught and dealt with. They shut it down due to embarrassment over not finding anything in their witch hunt.
Even your logic here makes no sense. You claim the 2016 audit wasn't complete yet you still accepted that election. We have never waited a year for an 'audit' before accepting the results of a Presidential election.
You're full of it, as usual. But this isn't some harmless misunderstanding of how orbits work, this is you misunderstanding how democracy works. We vote for our leaders, we don't allow dictators. We don't allow parties to just decide to not accept the will of the people.
And for crying out loud, figure out how to use the quote button. It's not that hard, you just press it. It's one click Tom. But if you want to continue looking dumb, go ahead I suppose. Quoting people is another to add to the list of things Tom doesn't understand. Along with elections and voting and democracy in general.
Trump lost, and you can't handle it. Not America's problem. Nobody wants to see Trump dragged crying and humiliated out of the White House, but if he keeps it up that's going to happen.
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Care to point to an assassination attempt on Trump? This is the only time I've heard anything about that.
Possibly because the sources you read don't like to talk about things like that.
Man tries to shoot Trump - http://archive.vn/Pfx77
Fundraiser for Trump-Pence assassination uncovered on Dark Web - https://www.rt.com/viral/369258-trump-pence-assassination-darkweb/
More:
2018 Poison Attempt: https://en-volve.com/2018/10/02/breaking-president-trump-targeted-in-foiled-assassination-attempt/
"Man who entered Trump’s motorcade in North Dakota and planned to ‘flip’ the president’s limo and then kill him is jailed for five years" - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6454109/Man-entered-Trumps-motorcade-North-Dakota-flip-presidents-limo-kill-jailed.html
Vehicle tries to crash into motorcade - http://www.waff.com/2019/03/08/video-shows-crash-near-president-trumps-motorcade/
Assassiation attempt in Phillipines - https://sputniknews.com/us/201810141068886474-secret-service-trump-assassination/
2020 Poison Attempt: https://news.0censor.com/assassination-attempt-against-president-trump-foiled-by-law-enforcement-report/?fbclid=IwAR2dnX8ZiDerTOO3CKG8RkjDSP-5fL3pvBgg-qa0hoPgqlmRbsbs1ZcmZOk -
Man firing gun and ranting about Trump shot by police inside Trump National Doral resort - https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/doral/article211406689.html
Also, Trump didn't attempt to audit the 2016 election, he put together a commission in order to find fraud that would have given him the popular vote as well as the EC vote. That commission didn't find anything and was dismantled.
The article I posted (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did) provides references that the states stonewalled the voter fraud investigation. That's different than "didn't find anything."
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Also, Trump didn't attempt to audit the 2016 election, he put together a commission in order to find fraud that would have given him the popular vote as well as the EC vote. That commission didn't find anything and was dismantled.
The article I posted (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did) provides references that the states stonewalled the voter fraud investigation. That's different than "didn't find anything."
At least 44 states have rejected the Trump voter fraud commission’s sweeping data request
One Republican secretary of state even told the commission to “jump in the Gulf of Mexico.”
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/5/15921806/trump-voter-fraud-commission-states
So where did you get this from:
After the 2016 election Trump attempted an audit of the election he won because he suspected fraud. The mostly democrat states refused to participate and it was eventually closed.
Seems like it was both Dem and Repubs who "stonewalled".
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The quote you posted says one Republican.
From the article:
"'The Democrats, both on and off the commission, made very clear that they were not interested in determining the scope and extent of voter fraud and, indeed, they were trying to stop the commission in its tracks,' Kobach said. 'The Democrats lost their opportunity, lost their seat at the table, by stonewalling.'"
Trump Tweet:
"Many mostly Democrat States refused to hand over data from the 2016 Election to the Commission On Voter Fraud. They fought hard that the Commission not see their records or methods because they know that many people are voting illegally. System is rigged, must go to Voter I.D."
But Republicans stonewalled too. They don't want election fraud to tarnish their state.
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Also, Trump didn't attempt to audit the 2016 election, he put together a commission in order to find fraud that would have given him the popular vote as well as the EC vote. That commission didn't find anything and was dismantled.
The article I posted (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did) provides references that the states stonewalled the voter fraud investigation. That's different than "didn't find anything."
Still can't figure out the quote button? Sad. Is ctrl-c/ctrl-v the only computer operation you're capable of?
And no, states didn't stonewall. They didn't hand over private information on their citizens to a bullshit fishing expedition and as been mentioned by others, only 6 states did. It wasn't the Democrats stonewalling, it was nobody wanting to be associated with that garbage.
They didn't find anything because there wasn't anything to find. They had all the time they wanted to look, they couldn't get ALL the data they demanded, but found jack shit in the mountains of data they did find. Then they gave up and all you have are your excuses.
It's all just distractions from reality. Trump lost, you can't accept it, and he can't either.
For the first time ever, a President and political party is denying the will of the people in a Presidential election.
The last time you conservatives elected your own President and went to WAR with America we kicked your asses. We will do it again if you try a second time.
Pages and pages of bullshit, and no evidence. All you can do is whine about not having an 'audit' and other excuses. Just admit you hate democracy and America and want to just install a dictator, because that's what Trump, and you are trying to do.
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The quote you posted says one Republican.
From the article:
"'The Democrats, both on and off the commission, made very clear that they were not interested in determining the scope and extent of voter fraud and, indeed, they were trying to stop the commission in its tracks,' Kobach said. 'The Democrats lost their opportunity, lost their seat at the table, by stonewalling.'"
Trump Tweet:
"Many mostly Democrat States refused to hand over data from the 2016 Election to the Commission On Voter Fraud. They fought hard that the Commission not see their records or methods because they know that many people are voting illegally. System is rigged, must go to Voter I.D."
But Republicans stonewalled too. They don't want election fraud to tarnish their state.
Quoting a Trump tweet regarding anything is about as rich as it gets.
Everyone stonewalled because they didn't want to give the ridiculous and unneeded commission all of the personal data they were asking for. A commission that was set up solely because Trump said he lost the popular vote due to 3 million illegals who voted.
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Voting is meant to be private and protected. For a government to want to get their hands on the information flies in the face of democracy and amounts to intimidation. How do people give Trump a free pass to Trump for pulling shit like this? This is a dictator in the making. Is that what repugnicans want now? A dictator?
Clearly Tom Bishop has no problem with it.
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Voting is meant to be private and protected. For a government to want to get their hands on the information flies in the face of democracy and amounts to intimidation. How do people give Trump a free pass to Trump for pulling shit like this? This is a dictator in the making. Is that what repugnicans want now? A dictator?
Clearly Tom Bishop has no problem with it.
I will at least give this to defending Trump, even if they got the massive amounts of data they asked for, they wouldn't be able to tell whether John Doe voted for Clinton or Trump, as the actual votes have no identifying information on them (though I can't speak for mail-in ballots as I've never seen one of those).
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Clearly Tom Bishop has no problem with it.
Yeah, cos the STORM is coming and all the paedos will be arrested, or something.
A vote for Biden was a vote for satanic paedo networks and therefore should not be counted. Simple when you think about it.
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In Utah the mail in ballots have a name, address and signature on them. I assume it's something similar for most other states. This is one of the reasons that they don't just anyone into ballot counting with a high definition webcam pointed straight at the ballots.
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Voting is meant to be private and protected. For a government to want to get their hands on the information flies in the face of democracy and amounts to intimidation. How do people give Trump a free pass to Trump for pulling shit like this? This is a dictator in the making. Is that what repugnicans want now? A dictator?
Clearly Tom Bishop has no problem with it.
I will at least give this to defending Trump, even if they got the massive amounts of data they asked for, they wouldn't be able to tell whether John Doe voted for Clinton or Trump, as the actual votes have no identifying information on them (though I can't speak for mail-in ballots as I've never seen one of those).
They were indeed asking for that information.
In June, the commission sent requests to states asking for all voters’ names, party IDs, addresses, and even the last four digits of their Social Security numbers, among other information. The request was so sweeping that more than 40 states, led by Democrats and Republicans, at the time partly or fully rejected it as federal overreach.
So yeah. Based solely on Trump whining that he couldn't have lost the popular vote, the commission formed by Republicans tried to invade the privacy of every single voter in America and got told NO. Then they spent months looking and found nothing anyway.
Classy.
And this is what Tom Bishop thinks an 'audit' is and is required to validate this election, but not the last one.
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Nope. I said that I did agree with an audit of the 2016 election.
I wouldn't be happy if there were voting irregularities. I did agree with the attempts to audit the election that were being attempted at the time:
After the 2016 election Trump attempted an audit of the election he won because he suspected fraud. The mostly democrat states refused to participate and it was eventually closed.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did
States refused to cooperate and participate in an audit of their elections.
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Nope. I said that I did agree with an audit of the 2016 election.
I wouldn't be happy if there were voting irregularities. I did agree with the attempts to audit the election that were being attempted at the time:
After the 2016 election Trump attempted an audit of the election he won because he suspected fraud. The mostly democrat states refused to participate and it was eventually closed.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did
States refused to cooperate and participate in an audit of their elections.
And that's what makes you a dictator enabling Muppet
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Only someone with something to hide would resist calls for audits of elections when fraud and voting irregularities are suspected.
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Nope. I said that I did agree with an audit of the 2016 election.
I wouldn't be happy if there were voting irregularities. I did agree with the attempts to audit the election that were being attempted at the time:
After the 2016 election Trump attempted an audit of the election he won because he suspected fraud. The mostly democrat states refused to participate and it was eventually closed.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did
States refused to cooperate and participate in an audit of their elections.
The Dems have lost another seat in the house. Max Rose has just conceded to Republican Nicole Malliotakis.
Would you like to audit that result? Just to be absolutely sure Rose didn’t win? Someone might have cheated.
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Only someone with something to hide would resist calls for audits of elections when fraud and voting irregularities are suspected.
Indeed. When I vote I do have something to hide. My vote!
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Nope. I said that I did agree with an audit of the 2016 election.
I wouldn't be happy if there were voting irregularities. I did agree with the attempts to audit the election that were being attempted at the time:
After the 2016 election Trump attempted an audit of the election he won because he suspected fraud. The mostly democrat states refused to participate and it was eventually closed.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did
States refused to cooperate and participate in an audit of their elections.
The Dems have lost another seat in the house. Max Rose has just conceded to Republican Nicole Malliotakis.
Would you like to audit that result? Just to be absolutely sure Rose didn’t win? Someone might have cheated.
IDC. If you are in a competition and your opponent wants to observe and audit the details of the results to ensure that no cheating has occured that should be obliged.
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There is a difference between observation and conducting 'audits' and outright calling the entire process rigged and fraudulent
How can one make those accusations before an audit? It makes no sense
Would you like the tax man to rake you over the coals when ever you submit a tax return there is a possibility that you could have cheated?
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There is a difference between observation and conducting 'audits' and outright calling the entire process rigged and fraudulent
How can one make those accusations before an audit? It makes no sense
Would you like the tax man to rake you over the coals when ever you submit a tax return there is a possibility that you could have cheated?
In your example the IRS does have the power to call for an audit whenever they want. I interpret this as an agreement with me.
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Nope. I said that I did agree with an audit of the 2016 election.
I wouldn't be happy if there were voting irregularities. I did agree with the attempts to audit the election that were being attempted at the time:
After the 2016 election Trump attempted an audit of the election he won because he suspected fraud. The mostly democrat states refused to participate and it was eventually closed.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did
States refused to cooperate and participate in an audit of their elections.
The Dems have lost another seat in the house. Max Rose has just conceded to Republican Nicole Malliotakis.
Would you like to audit that result? Just to be absolutely sure Rose didn’t win? Someone might have cheated.
IDC. If you are in a competition and your opponent wants to observe and audit the details of the results to ensure that no cheating has occured that should be obliged.
Sounds like a good way to ruin every sporting event on the planet,. Mind you, I’ve seen the game you lot call “football”, and probably wouldn’t notice if it got any slower.
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There is a difference between observation and conducting 'audits' and outright calling the entire process rigged and fraudulent
How can one make those accusations before an audit? It makes no sense
Would you like the tax man to rake you over the coals when ever you submit a tax return there is a possibility that you could have cheated?
In your example the IRS does have the power to call for an audit whenever they want. I interpret this as an agreement with me.
The crucial difference is that the IRS doesn't claim that you cheated before they audit you.
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There is a difference between observation and conducting 'audits' and outright calling the entire process rigged and fraudulent
How can one make those accusations before an audit? It makes no sense
Would you like the tax man to rake you over the coals when ever you submit a tax return there is a possibility that you could have cheated?
In your example the IRS does have the power to call for an audit whenever they want. I interpret this as an agreement with me.
The crucial difference is that the IRS doesn't claim that you cheated before they audit you.
Sure they do. They suspect that you cheated, so they audit you. They are claiming that cheating may have occured.
The audit is to get the complete evidence that cheating has occurred.
In this case you want the complete evidence of fraud before an audit is even conducted.
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There is a difference between observation and conducting 'audits' and outright calling the entire process rigged and fraudulent
How can one make those accusations before an audit? It makes no sense
Would you like the tax man to rake you over the coals when ever you submit a tax return there is a possibility that you could have cheated?
In your example the IRS does have the power to call for an audit whenever they want. I interpret this as an agreement with me.
The crucial difference is that the IRS doesn't claim that you cheated before they audit you.
Sure they do. They suspect that you cheated, so they audit you. They are claiming that cheating may have occured.
The audit is to get the concrete evidence that cheating has occured.
In this case you want infallible evidence of fraud before an audit is even conducted.
How much cheating must Trump have been accused of to have his taxes under perpetual audit?
Also, it appears that President Trump himself has committed voter fraud.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheGoodLiars/status/1263867787925229568
Another fraudulent voter: Donald Trump. Under the terms of his development agreement with Palm Beach Cty, Mar-a-Lago is only transient housing—not a legal residence. Yet he voted in FL citing Mar-a-Lago as his official residence.
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Only someone with something to hide would resist calls for audits of elections when fraud and voting irregularities are suspected.
Nobody here is saying we shouldn't have an 'audit' but that we shouldn't delay deciding the election for months until we have one. Everyone else knows he won, and no Biden supporter is afraid of an audit. We worry about humoring Trump and hurting national security by delaying the transition process.
And the only one suspecting voting irregularities is Trump. You're just blindly parroting everything that comes out of his mouth, or what he can type into Twitter with his stubby little fingers.
Trump lost.
Quit hoping for WAR against your own country. That's what traitors do.
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There is a difference between observation and conducting 'audits' and outright calling the entire process rigged and fraudulent
How can one make those accusations before an audit? It makes no sense
Would you like the tax man to rake you over the coals when ever you submit a tax return there is a possibility that you could have cheated?
In your example the IRS does have the power to call for an audit whenever they want. I interpret this as an agreement with me.
The crucial difference is that the IRS doesn't claim that you cheated before they audit you.
Sure they do. They suspect that you cheated, so they audit you. They are claiming that cheating may have occured.
The audit is to get the concrete evidence that cheating has occured.
In this case you want infallible evidence of fraud before an audit is even conducted.
That's not even close to how the IRS performs audits. What you are describing is a criminal tax investigation. The audits split up between a percentage of random audits of everyone and targeted audits of high risk returns, those with high complexities.
To audit the election results, you would pick a random sample of votes based on the population you choose, whether that be nation wide, state wide, or district wide. You definitely don't go into an audit with the formed opinion that there was fraud committed, as that makes the auditor biased and likely to draw an improper conclusion, not to mention would violate Generally Accepted Auditing Standards and lead to punishments by the AICPA, possibly leading to revocation of their license.
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You definitely don't go into an audit with the formed opinion that there was fraud committed, as that makes the auditor biased and likely to draw an improper conclusion, not to mention would violate Generally Accepted Auditing Standards and lead to punishments by the AICPA, possibly leading to revocation of their license.
Are you claiming that the IRS never suspects that fraud was committed before conducting audits?
Pretty sure that this is incorrect. It is possible that the investigators don't tell the auditors what they suspect happened to prevent bias, but unless they are constrained on resources, they certainly don't just ignore irregularities and give suspected fraud a free pass.
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It's really not that hard to understand Tom.
An audit is a check to make sure everything is above board. Trump could have been the statesmen he is supposed to be while still doing checks or investigations that he is entitled to.
Instead he's drawn a conclusion before the event in progress even took place!
Imagine getting accused of cheating your tax return and taken to court before you even submitted one. Because Trump has said long before the election it was rigged and full of fraud. What a joke
This from a man whose done everything he could to undermine the post office and people's ability to vote. If there is any rigging of the election, it's Trump
You know it, I know it, the world knows it and even Trump knows it. The question is, why do you disengage from reality to help troll for this lout? This isn't shits and giggles as you LARP on a flat earth forum anymore Tom. You are helping to erode your own countries democracy. History will not look kindly on you morons
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You definitely don't go into an audit with the formed opinion that there was fraud committed, as that makes the auditor biased and likely to draw an improper conclusion, not to mention would violate Generally Accepted Auditing Standards and lead to punishments by the AICPA, possibly leading to revocation of their license.
Are you claiming that the IRS never suspects that fraud was committed before conducting audits?
Pretty sure that this is incorrect. It is possible that the investigators don't tell the auditors what they suspect happened to prevent bias, but unless they are constrained on resources, they certainly don't just ignore irregularities and give suspected fraud a free pass.
Your cherry picking quotes and language lawyering might be amusing when you're misunderstanding the n-body problem.
Using these pitiful techniques trying to justify ignoring a valid Presidential election and put the country in real danger is on an entirely new level of terrible behavior from you.
Trump lost. You dancing around definitions and claiming with total confidence that the Democrats stole the election when you have ZERO evidence is just showing you to be even more delusional than you normally are.
Trump lost. There is NO evidence the Democrats faked millions of ballots. None. Trumps court cases are a joke.
You are trying to install a dictator simply because you don't like the winner. Tough cookies.
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New irregularities to this election continue to pop up:
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-new-pennsylvania-usps-whistleblower-supervisor-told-us-the-only/
BREAKING: New Pennsylvania USPS Whistleblower: Supervisor Told Us ‘The Only Political Mail That Will Be Delivered From Now On Will Be That of the ‘Winner,’ In This Case, Joe Biden’ … Trump Bulk-Mail Treated Like ‘Garbage’
Elkins Park, Pa., USPS whistleblower: “The only political mail that will be delivered from now on will be that of the ‘winner,’ in this case, Joe Biden. Other political mail from other sources and senders would be put into the undeliverable bulk business mail bin.”
Elkins Park, Pa., USPS whistleblower: “All political mail for Biden was to be continued to be treated as first-class and delivered the day it was received.”
Elkins Park, Pa., USPS whistleblower: “I think that we're a delivery service and that [playing politics] is not really our place.”
Elkins Park, Pa., USPS whistleblower: “The only thing that's going to prevent a fraudulent election is people having the courage to come forward. I wouldn't want to say that I had the opportunity to do that and didn't do it.”
Whistleblower says Elkins Park, Pa., USPS Supervisor of Customer Services Walter Lee gave the order to 30 postal workers
James O’Keefe: “This is the third Pennsylvania USPS Insider to blow the whistle on election malfeasance in the last week. There is something going on with USPS and we must get to the bottom of it immediately.”
If these people are lying for some reason and making libelous claims against the government, that needs to be investigated and dealt with harshly.
Anyone wanting to just ignore this completely is complicit.
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When Trump fired Mark Esper to install a Trump loyalist I thought perhaps he's going to try and weasel some way to retaining power. Whether it's bribing faithless electors or getting the courts to dismiss those swing states won by Biden for being in a continuous state of contension
Or maybe he'll just refuse to leave at all even as Biden is sworn in
Mark drew Trumps ire when he didn't want to use the military to quell BLM protests.
I wonder if Trump wants a die hard Trump fan to do his bidding because one can only imagine the protests if Trump steals this election. Will he do what all other dictators do and get the military to squash them?
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
All those in the GOP like Pence who stay silent are as complicit as the evil that is Trump. They will be remembered for that when history writes about Trumps downfall
Downfall. Sounds like a good name for a movie about Trump 8)
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Always a laugh
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When Trump fired Mark Esper to install a Trump loyalist I thought perhaps he's going to try and weasel some way to retaining power. Whether it's bribing faithless electors or getting the courts to dismiss those swing states won by Biden for being in a continuous state of contension
Or maybe he'll just refuse to leave at all even as Biden is sworn in
Mark drew Trumps ire when he didn't want to use the military to quell BLM protests.
I wonder if Trump wants a die hard Trump fan to do his bidding because one can only imagine the protests if Trump steals this election. Will he do what all other dictators do and get the military to squash them?
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
All those in the GOP like Pence who stay silent are as complicit as the evil that is Trump. They will be remembered for that when history writes about Trumps downfall
Downfall. Sounds like a good name for a movie about Trump 8)
On that note.
An excerpt from a report from the V-Dem institute from Gothenburg Sweden that publishes an annual Democracy Report that describes the state of democracy in the world;
V-Party’s Illiberalism Index shows that the Republican party in the US has retreated from upholding democratic norms in recent years. Its rhetoric is closer to authoritarian parties, such as AKP in Turkey and Fidesz in Hungary. Conversely, the Democratic party has retained a commitment to longstanding democratic standards.
Tom?
https://www.v-dem.net/media/filer_public/b6/55/b6553f85-5c5d-45ec-be63-a48a2abe3f62/briefing_paper_9.pdf
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"All political mail for Biden was to be continued to be treated as first-class and delivered the day it was received.”
What does this bullshit have to do with election fraud?
LOL, just watched a bit of the video and it's a nameless person with their identity and voice completely disguised claiming some crap. It could be literally anyone. For all we know it is Rudy Giuliani making these irrelevant claims.
Projectveritas is a joke fake news site. Come on Tom, is this all you got?
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If you think that the whistleblowers or any enablers are liars, then there should certainly be an investigation into it to put them into jail. Making false claims of criminality is also illegal.
Instead you are just saying "LOL, we shouldn't pay attention to that" and are asking us to ignore it, and are trying to discredit whistleblowers who claim fraud.
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Well these so called 'whistle blowers' are offered up to 1 million dollars for their 'evidence'. No wonder they say it and then upon realising the consequences of lying to a judge, retract it when it counts
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Well these so called 'whistle blowers' are offered up to 1 million dollars for their 'evidence'. No wonder they say it and then upon realising the consequences of lying to a judge, retract it when it counts
If it's all an effort to lie then the truth will prevail in a full investigation and it will be a destruction of either the Republicans who are enabling and promoting these numerous and serious lies or the Democrats who are committing the crimes alleged.
I want the people committing illegal acts here to face the punishment for it.
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You definitely don't go into an audit with the formed opinion that there was fraud committed, as that makes the auditor biased and likely to draw an improper conclusion, not to mention would violate Generally Accepted Auditing Standards and lead to punishments by the AICPA, possibly leading to revocation of their license.
Are you claiming that the IRS never suspects that fraud was committed before conducting audits?
Pretty sure that this is incorrect. It is possible that the investigators don't tell the auditors what they suspect happened to prevent bias, but unless they are constrained on resources, they certainly don't just ignore irregularities and give suspected fraud a free pass.
That's not even close to what I said. When there is suspected fraud, you don't audit, you investigate which includes forensic accounting.
I've just looked at more information regarding election audits, and it sounds like a glorified recount for a results oriented audit. It also sounds like a lot of states already do some sort of audit, including Pennsylvania and Nevada and other states like Georgia and Michigan allow for it to happen in special circumstances, like Georgia is currently doing. But again, the most important thing of doing this is to go in unbiased and not with the mindset that you'll definitely find problems.
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If you think that the whistleblowers or any enablers are liars, then there should certainly be an investigation into it to put them into jail. Making false claims of criminality is also illegal.
Tom, if there is ever a time to beware of your own confirmation bias, it's right now. Any competent lawyer knows to vet their sources and evidence before going in front of a judge.
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If you think that the whistleblowers or any enablers are liars, then there should certainly be an investigation into it to put them into jail. Making false claims of criminality is also illegal.
Instead you are just saying "LOL, we shouldn't pay attention to that" and are asking us to ignore it, and are trying to discredit whistleblowers who claim fraud.
You mean like the whisteblower who signed an affidavit basically saying she heard someone else say they saw something improper happen?
Let's just wait until this is all hashed out in the courts. The biggest problem with all of this is that on election night, Trump claimed victory before a very large portion of ballots were counted and immediately claimed election fraud with 0 evidence at the time. It's very hard to believe someone who blindly states that fraud occurred and is now trying to find it to fit his narrative. So far, no court has been given anything by Trump's camp to suggest the election was inappropriately given to Biden. The court cases involve tens or hundreds of votes, sometimes votes that were never even counted in the first place, and trump needs tens to hundreds of thousands of votes to change the election.
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Well these so called 'whistle blowers' are offered up to 1 million dollars for their 'evidence'. No wonder they say it and then upon realising the consequences of lying to a judge, retract it when it counts
If it's all an effort to lie then the truth will prevail in a full investigation and it will be a destruction of either the Republicans who are enabling and promoting these numerous and serious lies or the Democrats who are committing the crimes alleged.
I want the people committing illegal acts here to face the punishment for it.
The people who will get charged are those who commit perjury by signing false affidavits, the ones who should be held accountable, but won't, are the ones who amplify the lies through social media.
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New irregularities to this election continue to pop up:
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-new-pennsylvania-usps-whistleblower-supervisor-told-us-the-only/
BREAKING: New Pennsylvania USPS Whistleblower: Supervisor Told Us ‘The Only Political Mail That Will Be Delivered From Now On Will Be That of the ‘Winner,’ In This Case, Joe Biden’ … Trump Bulk-Mail Treated Like ‘Garbage’
Elkins Park, Pa., USPS whistleblower: “The only political mail that will be delivered from now on will be that of the ‘winner,’ in this case, Joe Biden. Other political mail from other sources and senders would be put into the undeliverable bulk business mail bin.”
Elkins Park, Pa., USPS whistleblower: “All political mail for Biden was to be continued to be treated as first-class and delivered the day it was received.”
Elkins Park, Pa., USPS whistleblower: “I think that we're a delivery service and that [playing politics] is not really our place.”
Elkins Park, Pa., USPS whistleblower: “The only thing that's going to prevent a fraudulent election is people having the courage to come forward. I wouldn't want to say that I had the opportunity to do that and didn't do it.”
Whistleblower says Elkins Park, Pa., USPS Supervisor of Customer Services Walter Lee gave the order to 30 postal workers
James O’Keefe: “This is the third Pennsylvania USPS Insider to blow the whistle on election malfeasance in the last week. There is something going on with USPS and we must get to the bottom of it immediately.”
If these people are lying for some reason and making libelous claims against the government, that needs to be investigated and dealt with harshly.
Anyone wanting to just ignore this completely is complicit.
Project Veritas' first fraud claim still up on their site is garbage. Factcheck.org:
Claim of Michigan Postal Fraud Is Moot
Quick Take
A video from a right-wing activist (Project Veritas) suggests that U.S. Postal Service employees backdated ballots in Michigan. The claim is unproven, but, even if true, no ballots in the state are accepted after Nov. 3, regardless of the postmark.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/claim-of-michigan-postal-fraud-is-moot/
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Claiming that people working at the election place wouldn't accept it isn't relevant to the claim that the USPS is instigating mail or election fraud. That's a separate claim which relies on the integrity of another group, and does nothing to address the USPS's possible wrongdoing.
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If you think that the whistleblowers or any enablers are liars, then there should certainly be an investigation into it to put them into jail. Making false claims of criminality is also illegal.
Instead you are just saying "LOL, we shouldn't pay attention to that" and are asking us to ignore it, and are trying to discredit whistleblowers who claim fraud.
Bullshit. Nobody here is saying that, Tom.
What we are saying is if you want investigations, go ahead. Want to audit, go ahead. Want recounts, go ahead.
If you find any actual evidence you can take it to the courts.
Until then, Biden won the election. Trump throwing his baseless hissy fit and refusing to concede or cooperate is hurting America. It's harming our security. It's going to make COVID worse by delaying Biden's plans. Going to make the economy worse by delaying his plans. Nothing good will come of locking Biden out until Trump gets his ass evicted on Jan 20th.
This is how democracy works. If you find EVIDENCE of fraud, then you take action, legally. If you just are pissed you lost then you suck it up and run a better campaign next time.
You are the crazy one here, you are the one throwing 76 million votes into the garbage because you don't like it. You are the one trying to turn us into some shitty 3rd world dictatorship.
Investigate it all, that doesn't scare anyone. What scares people is you fanatical right wing conservatives who are ready to throw out the Constitution, rule of law and common decency out the window the moment you don't get what you want.
Don't be babies. Grow up. Deal with it.
And most of all, don't be traitors.
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Claiming that people working at the election place wouldn't accept it isn't relevant to the claim that the USPS is instigating mail or election fraud. That's a separate claim which relies on the integrity of another group, and does nothing to address the USPS's possible wrongdoing.
Obviously the worst fraudster ever. Telling postal workers to back date ballots even though they can't be accepted regardless of the backdate.
Also, "Also worth noting is that President Donald Trump received more votes in that county, although his challenger, former Vice President Joe Biden, did get more mail-in votes."
Lastly, the alleged fraud is moot. It doesn't effect the vote count at all.
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Only someone with something to hide would resist calls for audits of elections when fraud and voting irregularities are suspected.
Only someone with something to hide would resist cops searching them when drugs are suspected. /s
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WH Press Secretary claiming that they have been collecting lots of evidence of fraud.
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1327009008377466881?s=20
(https://i.imgur.com/ZQ8ebw8.png)
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WH Press Secretary claiming that they have been collecting lots of evidence of fraud.
So a lying liar says some more lies. Big deal.
Did you not listen? If they have evidence they need to take it to court and have a judge rule on it.
If they are just issuing press conferences and going on entertainment talk shows it's meaningless.
In the meantime, Biden won. Trump stonewalling things is hurting America. Why can't he let things move forward. He has until Jan 20th to find evidence. Until then Biden is only Presiden Elect, if you guys can find actual evidence and get a ruling before the 20th then good for you.
Otherwise... quit being the party of traitors and let the democratic process work as it always has. No President has ever acted like this.
Quit being babies, suck it up and move on.
How would YOU have reacted if Obama simply said, "Nah, I don't accept Trump, I'm staying."
You guys would have burned the country down. Just like you are trying to do now, destroying 200 years of peaceful, lawful, legal transitions of power.
Well, other than the time you seceded and we had to drag you kicking and screaming back. Sore losers.
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WH Press Secretary claiming that they have been collecting lots of evidence of fraud.
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1327009008377466881?s=20
(https://i.imgur.com/ZQ8ebw8.png)
Thank you James Woods for relaying such important information.
This will be fun going through these affidavits...Some fun ones are already coming out:
Trump's 234 pages of 'election fraud' affidavits include Detroit poll watcher who says he thought military wouldn't vote Biden and that independent' watchers were liberals 'because they wanted to work in Brooklyn'
- Suit filed by Trump campaign in Michigan contains claim after claim from GOP poll watchers
- One said military ballots going to Joe Biden 'stuck out' to them because they believed military 'tended to be more conservative
- The person could not 'provide specific numbers or names'
- Another claimed independent poll watchers seemed 'ideologically far-left' and supported the proclaimed autonomous zone in Seattle
- They also 'condoned' crime and wanted to work in Brooklyn
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8938507/Donald-Trumps-234-pages-fraud-affidavits-include-unusual-claims.html
I'm sure there are a lot more like this in 234 pages. Seems suspiciously like your "terabytes of treasonous evidence" that would take down the entirety of the Obama administration.
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Yeah, I'm going to take that more seriously when a lawyer presents this "evidence" under penalty of perjury in a court of law. Until that happens it's just the ravings of James Woods.
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It's also more complaints about not being able to get close, already settled because of covid, and about dem challengers wearing blm stuff, also already covered as that's not campaign gear.
EDIT. Though from what I've seen, some of them are troubling if true, but not nearly on the scale to be able to change the election outcome in Michigan.
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WH Press Secretary claiming that they have been collecting lots of evidence of fraud.
So?
Why give weight to anything that lying dumbarse bimbo says? Do you think she's trustworthy? Are you so pussy whipped?
Mate, she is full of shit. Don't pay any attention to her
Tom, do you believe Trump was right to claim victory when and how he did on election night? I mean with hundreds of thousands of votes still to count he literally called dibs on all the swing states lol
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I read a few of the affidavits, it's increasingly clear that the GOP poll watchers were loud mouthed ignorant and disruptive.
The GOP poll watchers often failed to show up for training sessions and polling rules walk through's, ignored instructions and turned up late often without face masks.
Then complained in affidavits about being kicked out or told to stand back. GTFO
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WH Press Secretary claiming that they have been collecting lots of evidence of fraud.
So?
Why give weight to anything that lying dumbarse bimbo says? Do you think she's trustworthy? Are you so pussy whipped?
Mate, she is full of shit. Don't pay any attention to her
Tom, do you believe Trump was right to claim victory when and how he did on election night? I mean with hundreds of thousands of votes still to count he literally called dibs on all the swing states lol
Trump's work seems to be convincing some judges so far.
THROW ‘EM OUT: PA judge sides with Trump campaign, orders ballots with no proof of ID be discarded - https://theleoterrell.com/throw-em-out-pennsylvania-judge-sides-with-trump-campaign-orders-ballots-with-no-proof-of-id-be-discarded/
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WH Press Secretary claiming that they have been collecting lots of evidence of fraud.
So?
Why give weight to anything that lying dumbarse bimbo says? Do you think she's trustworthy? Are you so pussy whipped?
Mate, she is full of shit. Don't pay any attention to her
Tom, do you believe Trump was right to claim victory when and how he did on election night? I mean with hundreds of thousands of votes still to count he literally called dibs on all the swing states lol
Trump's work seems to be convincing some judges so far.
THROW ‘EM OUT: PA judge sides with Trump campaign, orders ballots with no proof of ID be discarded - https://theleoterrell.com/throw-em-out-pennsylvania-judge-sides-with-trump-campaign-orders-ballots-with-no-proof-of-id-be-discarded/
Wow Tom, what a win.
Trump managed to convince a judge to stop letting people show proof of identification after 6 days instead of 12.
You are celebrating that Trump's lawyers are causing ballots to be thrown out. This makes you proud? How sad.
So... his only win is that he managed to prevent people from voting. Yeah, that's a win for Republicans isn't it, got to stop all the voting.
Nowhere does this have anything to do with cheating or fraud, it's just changing how long people have to correct errors in ballot information.
Once again, you fail to show ANY evidence of Democratic cheating.
If this is what you call a win, well no wonder you can't recognize TRUMP LOST.
Get over it.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/11/12/pennsylvania-judge-rules-in-favor-of-trump-campaign-orders-state-cant-count-some-ballots/?sh=270ed6976c12
A Pennsylvania state judge ruled Thursday in favor of the Trump campaign and ordered the state not to count some mail-in ballots that were missing proof of identification and cured during an extended deadline—but the ruling will not change the vote count as it currently stands and will not impact Joe Biden’s win in the state.
lol
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Trump's work seems to be convincing some judges so far.
THROW ‘EM OUT: PA judge sides with Trump campaign, orders ballots with no proof of ID be discarded - https://theleoterrell.com/throw-em-out-pennsylvania-judge-sides-with-trump-campaign-orders-ballots-with-no-proof-of-id-be-discarded/
A hearing is scheduled for Friday to determine if “over thousands of ballots” missing crucial information were incorrectly counted by election officials in the Keystone State.
Maybe, maybe not. I suppose we'll find out tomorrow.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/11/12/pennsylvania-judge-rules-in-favor-of-trump-campaign-orders-state-cant-count-some-ballots/?sh=270ed6976c12
A Pennsylvania state judge ruled Thursday in favor of the Trump campaign and ordered the state not to count some mail-in ballots that were missing proof of identification and cured during an extended deadline—but the ruling will not change the vote count as it currently stands and will not impact Joe Biden’s win in the state.
lol
I guess we can put that one solidly in the Trump win column. Probably a lot more winners just like it.
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I found the problem:
The audit is to get the complete evidence that cheating has occurred.
Don't you mean IF cheating has occurred? Sounds to me like you want to audit to ensure evidence exists of cheating, not see if it does.
Also the IRS usually requires more suspicion then "Oh, Trump lost".
Also, how do those USPS people know Biden votes from Trump votes in sealed envelopes? Doesn't make a lot of sense does it?
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Oh, it has been proven in arizona that there was no voter fraud.
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/biden-trump-us-election-news-11-12-20/h_98a625dddebc622aa30eb510a0514e1f
I hope our special snowflake (aka SS) can deal with it.
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Oh look. More of Trumps baseless BS being called out.
https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election
WASHINGTON – The members of Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) Executive Committee – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Assistant Director Bob Kolasky, U.S. Election Assistance Commission Chair Benjamin Hovland, National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) President Maggie Toulouse Oliver, National Association of State Election Directors (NASED) President Lori Augino, and Escambia County (Florida) Supervisor of Elections David Stafford – and the members of the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC) – Chair Brian Hancock (Unisyn Voting Solutions), Vice Chair Sam Derheimer (Hart InterCivic), Chris Wlaschin (Election Systems & Software), Ericka Haas (Electronic Registration Information Center), and Maria Bianchi (Democracy Works) - released the following statement:
“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.
“When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.
“Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.
“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”
Time for the repugnican party to accept the will of the people and stop eroding peoples confidence in democracy.
Tom, that means you too. Go home
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Oops, looks like Arizona has been called. That puts Biden at 290 electoral votes.
Yes Tom, the 'evil media' don't get to choose the President.
The people do, and the media is still allowed to report on it. Trump hasn't managed to completely control the media like his buddies Kim and Putin do.
Biden keeps winning states as the votes come in.
Trump on the other hand... most of his lawsuits are thrown out, and his 'wins' aren't going to change anything.
It's going to be interesting, and depressing to see how far Trump drags this out. What a crybaby snowflake.
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WH Press Secretary claiming that they have been collecting lots of evidence of fraud.
So?
Why give weight to anything that lying dumbarse bimbo says? Do you think she's trustworthy? Are you so pussy whipped?
Mate, she is full of shit. Don't pay any attention to her
Tom, do you believe Trump was right to claim victory when and how he did on election night? I mean with hundreds of thousands of votes still to count he literally called dibs on all the swing states lol
Trump's work seems to be convincing some judges so far.
THROW ‘EM OUT: PA judge sides with Trump campaign, orders ballots with no proof of ID be discarded - https://theleoterrell.com/throw-em-out-pennsylvania-judge-sides-with-trump-campaign-orders-ballots-with-no-proof-of-id-be-discarded/
Wow Tom, what a win.
Trump managed to convince a judge to stop letting people show proof of identification after 6 days instead of 12.
You are celebrating that Trump's lawyers are causing ballots to be thrown out. This makes you proud? How sad.
So... his only win is that he managed to prevent people from voting. Yeah, that's a win for Republicans isn't it, got to stop all the voting.
Nowhere does this have anything to do with cheating or fraud, it's just changing how long people have to correct errors in ballot information.
Once again, you fail to show ANY evidence of Democratic cheating.
If this is what you call a win, well no wonder you can't recognize TRUMP LOST.
Get over it.
It's even worse than what you are saying. The PA supreme court allowed for 3 extra days for mail in ballots to arrive, beyond what would normally be the case. The mail-in ballots are typically supposed to arrive by election day, but the supreme court allowed for them to arrive up to 3 days later. PA law also allows for 6 days to correct any errors with the ballots, such as signature issues, IDs, etc. The PA Secretary of State tried to extend that 6 day window also to those ballots arriving after election day, which would have given the last arriving ballot up to 6 days to correct any issues. Instead, this ruling means that those ballots only had 3 days, instead of the standard 6 days to correct issues. So yeah, that ruling actually does appear to be an attack on voting, which is a win for Trump.
But the best thing is, the votes in question were never counted, so it literally does nothing to help Trump.
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I read a few of the affidavits, it's increasingly clear that the GOP poll watchers were loud mouthed ignorant and disruptive.
The GOP poll watchers often failed to show up for training sessions and polling rules walk through's, ignored instructions and turned up late often without face masks.
Then complained in affidavits about being kicked out or told to stand back. GTFO
Those affidavits also claim ballots were scanned multiple times. This seems to be the easiest thing to prevent against by only allowing one distinct instance of a particular barcode to exist in the count at a time. I would imagine even the most incompetent coding team would have programmed something about that type of situation into the counting software to prevent 1 ballot from being counted multiple times as a default.
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I read a few of the affidavits, it's increasingly clear that the GOP poll watchers were loud mouthed ignorant and disruptive.
The GOP poll watchers often failed to show up for training sessions and polling rules walk through's, ignored instructions and turned up late often without face masks.
Then complained in affidavits about being kicked out or told to stand back. GTFO
Those affidavits also claim ballots were scanned multiple times. This seems to be the easiest thing to prevent against by only allowing one distinct instance of a particular barcode to exist in the count at a time. I would imagine even the most incompetent coding team would have programmed something about that type of situation into the counting software to prevent 1 ballot from being counted multiple times as a default.
Also, ballots may have been scanned multiple times because barcodes can get messed up or read wrong. If you scan a ballot and it comes up "ballot not found" You scan it a few more times to be sure. Enter the number manually. If that all fails chuck it.
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You western globilists dont get it do you?! The world as we know it is changing, Trump is going to stay! When he said twelve more years he was not kidding! Everything has gone to plan, this is exactly what he wanted, he didnt want to win, he wanted to shook the system. To him its fix it or fuck it! I think it going to be fuck it!
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You western globilists dont get it do you?! The world as we know it is changing, Trump is going to stay! When he said twelve more years he was not kidding! Everything has gone to plan, this is exactly what he wanted, he didnt want to win, he wanted to shook the system. To him its fix it or fuck it! I think it going to be fuck it!
Yeah, baby!
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Got it. So when Biden is in the White House giving speeches and whatnot it's all just a ruse. Trump is still the real president. And you have to watch OANN or Newsmax to see what this real president is doing.
I think I can live with that arrangement.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/13/law-firm-drops-trump-campaign-436418
The law firms working with Trump on this are quitting. Could it be a crisis of conscience? The humiliation?
Or could it be that their client is broke and won't pay them?
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/13/law-firm-drops-trump-campaign-436418
The law firms working with Trump on this are quitting. Could it be a crisis of conscience? The humiliation?
Or could it be that their client is broke and won't pay them?
Or, maybe they're afraid of being disbarred for filing so many frivolous and/or fraudulent lawsuits that are undermining our democracy?
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I read a few of the affidavits, it's increasingly clear that the GOP poll watchers were loud mouthed ignorant and disruptive.
The GOP poll watchers often failed to show up for training sessions and polling rules walk through's, ignored instructions and turned up late often without face masks.
Then complained in affidavits about being kicked out or told to stand back. GTFO
Those affidavits also claim ballots were scanned multiple times. This seems to be the easiest thing to prevent against by only allowing one distinct instance of a particular barcode to exist in the count at a time. I would imagine even the most incompetent coding team would have programmed something about that type of situation into the counting software to prevent 1 ballot from being counted multiple times as a default.
Also, ballots may have been scanned multiple times because barcodes can get messed up or read wrong. If you scan a ballot and it comes up "ballot not found" You scan it a few more times to be sure. Enter the number manually. If that all fails chuck it.
So the same basic procedure I just employed by repeatedly waving a pizza at a stubborn barcode reader in my local supermarket?
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I read a few of the affidavits, it's increasingly clear that the GOP poll watchers were loud mouthed ignorant and disruptive.
The GOP poll watchers often failed to show up for training sessions and polling rules walk through's, ignored instructions and turned up late often without face masks.
Then complained in affidavits about being kicked out or told to stand back. GTFO
Those affidavits also claim ballots were scanned multiple times. This seems to be the easiest thing to prevent against by only allowing one distinct instance of a particular barcode to exist in the count at a time. I would imagine even the most incompetent coding team would have programmed something about that type of situation into the counting software to prevent 1 ballot from being counted multiple times as a default.
Also, ballots may have been scanned multiple times because barcodes can get messed up or read wrong. If you scan a ballot and it comes up "ballot not found" You scan it a few more times to be sure. Enter the number manually. If that all fails chuck it.
So the same basic procedure I just employed by repeatedly waving a pizza at a stubborn barcode reader in my local supermarket?
False dichotomy. Counting a unique ballot is not the same as buying a pizza at a supermarket.
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I read a few of the affidavits, it's increasingly clear that the GOP poll watchers were loud mouthed ignorant and disruptive.
The GOP poll watchers often failed to show up for training sessions and polling rules walk through's, ignored instructions and turned up late often without face masks.
Then complained in affidavits about being kicked out or told to stand back. GTFO
Those affidavits also claim ballots were scanned multiple times. This seems to be the easiest thing to prevent against by only allowing one distinct instance of a particular barcode to exist in the count at a time. I would imagine even the most incompetent coding team would have programmed something about that type of situation into the counting software to prevent 1 ballot from being counted multiple times as a default.
Also, ballots may have been scanned multiple times because barcodes can get messed up or read wrong. If you scan a ballot and it comes up "ballot not found" You scan it a few more times to be sure. Enter the number manually. If that all fails chuck it.
So the same basic procedure I just employed by repeatedly waving a pizza at a stubborn barcode reader in my local supermarket?
You really shouldn't have taken it out the box. Bet there was cheese everywhere.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/13/law-firm-drops-trump-campaign-436418
The law firms working with Trump on this are quitting. Could it be a crisis of conscience? The humiliation?
Or could it be that their client is broke and won't pay them?
Or, maybe they're afraid of being disbarred for filing so many frivolous and/or fraudulent lawsuits that are undermining our democracy?
I can imagine apart from having their reputation turned into a joke 'There were a non zero number of people in the room', it was probably getting to a point where continuing to defend Trump meant they were going to have to outright bullshit to the judges.
I think Trump will have enough money for now only because of the stupid fund raising and the sheer amount of morons willing to part with their money to a guy that likes to brag about how really rich he is
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Every state has been called. https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/president/
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I read a few of the affidavits, it's increasingly clear that the GOP poll watchers were loud mouthed ignorant and disruptive.
The GOP poll watchers often failed to show up for training sessions and polling rules walk through's, ignored instructions and turned up late often without face masks.
Then complained in affidavits about being kicked out or told to stand back. GTFO
Those affidavits also claim ballots were scanned multiple times. This seems to be the easiest thing to prevent against by only allowing one distinct instance of a particular barcode to exist in the count at a time. I would imagine even the most incompetent coding team would have programmed something about that type of situation into the counting software to prevent 1 ballot from being counted multiple times as a default.
Also, ballots may have been scanned multiple times because barcodes can get messed up or read wrong. If you scan a ballot and it comes up "ballot not found" You scan it a few more times to be sure. Enter the number manually. If that all fails chuck it.
So the same basic procedure I just employed by repeatedly waving a pizza at a stubborn barcode reader in my local supermarket?
False dichotomy. Counting a unique ballot is not the same as buying a pizza at a supermarket.
But it’s a similar technology both with the chance of getting a read error. The main difference is what to do with the numbers.
You really shouldn't have taken it out the box. Bet there was cheese everywhere.
#pizzagate
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Trump is giving a press conference in 5 minutes. I wonder what nonsense we're about to hear.
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According to the White House live page, he's scheduled to give an update on Operation Warp Speed at 4:00 EST.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
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Ah okay. Trump is just going to take credit for a drug created by a German company and invented by Turkish scientists without any US funding.
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Twitter is talking about how white Trump's hair is! Oh, it does look white, maybe he ran out of orange hair dye.
Operation warp speed!
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I'm sure he was told all about how other presidents' hair gets noticeably whiter while they are in office, so he wanted to make sure his did too.
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Twitter is talking about how white Trump's hair is! Oh, it does look white, maybe he ran out of orange hair dye.
Operation warp speed!
He's probably so stressed that his stylist won't come near him. And he can't possibly dye his own hair...
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His stylist probably has the corone :(
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I'm sure he was told all about how other presidents' hair gets noticeably whiter while they are in office, so he wanted to make sure his did too.
He must believe it makes a man look distinguished.
Instead, he looks like an idiot. You're not meant to dye a toupée ::)
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-E-5ajCvfBiI/UfQ-VJsGVjI/AAAAAAAAA5k/v-u3k64zElE/s1600/ST+TNG+All+Good+Things+1.jpg)
I disagree!
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Yesterday my 76yr old mother asked me what Parler is. lol
Today, 59yo me asks what is Parler?
Is that something where intellectually vacuous folks find out what to think?
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Yesterday my 76yr old mother asked me what Parler is. lol
Today, 59yo me asks what is Parler?
Is that something where intellectually vacuous folks find out what to think?
It's a very secret place for very smart people :)
I think you'd love it!
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Yesterday my 76yr old mother asked me what Parler is. lol
Today, 59yo me asks what is Parler?
Is that something where intellectually vacuous folks find out what to think?
It's a very secret place for very smart people :)
I think you'd love it!
If it's in the park @ 3am . . . not doing that again.
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Yesterday my 76yr old mother asked me what Parler is. lol
Today, 59yo me asks what is Parler?
Is that something where intellectually vacuous folks find out what to think?
It's a very secret place for very smart people :)
I think you'd love it!
If it's in the park @ 3am . . . not doing that again.
Ha!
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Yesterday my 76yr old mother asked me what Parler is. lol
Today, 59yo me asks what is Parler?
Is that something where intellectually vacuous folks find out what to think?
It's a place where you can say anything you want and not get banned (you'll totally still get banned but that's beside the point) and you can get the complete unfiltered truth about those demonic democrats stealing the election by stuffing the ballot boxes with 3.89 billion fake ballots.
In all seriousness, it's a place where "totally not snowflake" conservatives can escape from the evils of Facebook censoring their disinformation.
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Until it runs out of start up money and needs corporate sponsorship - then it will become like the rest.
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Yesterday my 76yr old mother asked me what Parler is. lol
Today, 59yo me asks what is Parler?
Is that something where intellectually vacuous folks find out what to think?
It's a place where you can say anything you want and not get banned (you'll totally still get banned but that's beside the point) and you can get the complete unfiltered truth about those demonic democrats stealing the election by stuffing the ballot boxes with 3.89 billion fake ballots.
In all seriousness, it's a place where "totally not snowflake" conservatives can escape from the evils of Facebook censoring their disinformation.
So basically its for right wing nuts/nazis but everyone else gets banned?
Classic free speech!
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I was away all day yesterday. Anything happen?
Looks like nothing happened. Biden still won. Trump is still in denial. The GOP is too cowardly to do the right thing.
Looks like Rudy is causing most of Trumps lawyers to run away screaming, clutching their law licenses.
Trump will never admit he lost. At some point the GOP will have to admit it.
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New York Post : DHS boss Chad Wolf defies Trump order to fire cyber chief Chris Krebs.
https://nypost.com/2020/11/13/dhs-boss-chad-wolf-defies-trump-order-to-fire-cyber-chief-chris-krebs/
Trump has ordered the head of dhs to fire the cyber security chief. But he has refused to do so.
Chad Wolf, the kids in cages guy, won't go along with this. This is where he draws the line?
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Even with the fishy shit in the election and I don't agree with the results, it's time for Trump to stop. Accept the results and disappear/relax (though I promise you Biden would have done the same, least for a bit if Trump had won. He even admitted it during his first debate), he is making the country look even worse than usual. Plus, no court will tackle this no matter the evidence.
I will say the same I expected from Dems in 2016, Biden is our president and I will hope and wish him the best for the country's sake. Hopefully I am wrong about him and he kills it, we could use it as a country, that's for sure.
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If it were close then it should be looked into. 2000 was a much different situation.
I really don't think you have any cause for concern with Biden. Republicans will most likely keep the senate. Probably get 4 years of total gridlock.
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Even with the fishy shit in the election and I don't agree with the results, it's time for Trump to stop. Accept the results and disappear/relax (though I promise you Biden would have done the same, least for a bit if Trump had won. He even admitted it during his first debate), he is making the country look even worse than usual. Plus, no court will tackle this no matter the evidence.
I will say the same I expected from Dems in 2016, Biden is our president and I will hope and wish him the best for the country's sake. Hopefully I am wrong about him and he kills it, we could use it as a country, that's for sure.
Ditto.
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If it were close then it should be looked into. 2000 was a much different situation.
I really don't think you have any cause for concern with Biden. Republicans will most likely keep the senate. Probably get 4 years of total gridlock.
Yeah, that is probably accurate, which in it's own way is terrible. We actually need something to change obviously.
I do admit, it will be nice to have someone in office that doesn't act like a toddler non stop. At least Biden has a team of people that posts positive things in twitter for him, rather it's BS or not.
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Even with the fishy shit in the election and I don't agree with the results, it's time for Trump to stop. Accept the results and disappear/relax (though I promise you Biden would have done the same, least for a bit if Trump had won. He even admitted it during his first debate), he is making the country look even worse than usual. Plus, no court will tackle this no matter the evidence.
I will say the same I expected from Dems in 2016, Biden is our president and I will hope and wish him the best for the country's sake. Hopefully I am wrong about him and he kills it, we could use it as a country, that's for sure.
How could Biden say he would do the same thing, since he isn't President and can't drag his feet on the power transfer process?
Obama didn't deny reality or deny Trump the resources and cooperation he deserved as President elect. Trump should be man enough to do the same.
Trump is not just being a jerk, he is being dangerous. How far will he take this? Will he order the wall around the White House built higher and stronger with his own security and refuse to leave? AN armed standoff? Order the military to defend him?
But I agree, I did hope Trump actually would 'become more Presidential than any president ever" and would have happily supported him if he actually HAD a health care plan like he promised.
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Yesterday my 76yr old mother asked me what Parler is. lol
Today, 59yo me asks what is Parler?
Is that something where intellectually vacuous folks find out what to think?
It's a place where you can say anything you want and not get banned (you'll totally still get banned but that's beside the point) and you can get the complete unfiltered truth about those demonic democrats stealing the election by stuffing the ballot boxes with 3.89 billion fake ballots.
In all seriousness, it's a place where "totally not snowflake" conservatives can escape from the evils of Facebook censoring their disinformation.
;D
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Yesterday my 76yr old mother asked me what Parler is. lol
Today, 59yo me asks what is Parler?
Is that something where intellectually vacuous folks find out what to think?
It's a place where you can say anything you want and not get banned (you'll totally still get banned but that's beside the point) and you can get the complete unfiltered truth about those demonic democrats stealing the election by stuffing the ballot boxes with 3.89 billion fake ballots.
In all seriousness, it's a place where "totally not snowflake" conservatives can escape from the evils of Facebook censoring their disinformation.
;D
You kinda forgot to write something.
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Trump is not just being a jerk, he is being dangerous. How far will he take this? Will he order the wall around the White House built higher and stronger with his own security and refuse to leave? AN armed standoff? Order the military to defend him?
Unlikely.
What do you think is Trump’s favourite thing about being president? The responsibility and work of running a government? Or the rallies, the fans and being in the news constantly?
My bet is that he will step down peacefully, but never step aside quietly. He’ll keep doing rallies, he’ll keep tweeting, he’ll keep selling merch and he’ll keep stirring up shit.
Being the “legitimate” people’s president who tried to Make America Great Again, but had the job stolen from him by the corrupt elites and the lame stream media is a perfect fit for the grievance culture he thrives off. It’s going to be his brand and his business model for years.
This of course is plenty dangerous enough.
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Trump is not just being a jerk, he is being dangerous. How far will he take this? Will he order the wall around the White House built higher and stronger with his own security and refuse to leave? AN armed standoff? Order the military to defend him?
Unlikely.
What do you think is Trump’s favourite thing about being president? The responsibility and work of running a government? Or the rallies, the fans and being in the news constantly?
My bet is that he will step down peacefully, but never step aside quietly. He’ll keep doing rallies, he’ll keep tweeting, he’ll keep selling merch and he’ll keep stirring up shit.
Being the “legitimate” people’s president who tried to Make America Great Again, but had the job stolen from him by the corrupt elites and the lame stream media is a perfect fit for the grievance culture he thrives off. It’s going to be his brand and his business model for years.
This of course is plenty dangerous enough.
An apt assessment for sure. We're going to wake up some morning to the launch of the Trump News Network and suffer his Rush inspired rhetoric for the next 4 years. Oh well, at least he won't have access to the football anymore.
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Yesterday my 76yr old mother asked me what Parler is. lol
Today, 59yo me asks what is Parler?
Is that something where intellectually vacuous folks find out what to think?
It's a place where you can say anything you want and not get banned (you'll totally still get banned but that's beside the point) and you can get the complete unfiltered truth about those demonic democrats stealing the election by stuffing the ballot boxes with 3.89 billion fake ballots.
In all seriousness, it's a place where "totally not snowflake" conservatives can escape from the evils of Facebook censoring their disinformation.
;D
You kinda forgot to write something.
>:(
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Trump is not just being a jerk, he is being dangerous. How far will he take this? Will he order the wall around the White House built higher and stronger with his own security and refuse to leave? AN armed standoff? Order the military to defend him?
Unlikely.
What do you think is Trump’s favourite thing about being president? The responsibility and work of running a government? Or the rallies, the fans and being in the news constantly?
My bet is that he will step down peacefully, but never step aside quietly. He’ll keep doing rallies, he’ll keep tweeting, he’ll keep selling merch and he’ll keep stirring up shit.
Being the “legitimate” people’s president who tried to Make America Great Again, but had the job stolen from him by the corrupt elites and the lame stream media is a perfect fit for the grievance culture he thrives off. It’s going to be his brand and his business model for years.
This of course is plenty dangerous enough.
You forgot about the part where being president makes him immune to prosecution, he can pardon himself (he thinks) and his friends and can fire people in the justice department if they try and look at his taxes.
His position protects him, and he won't give it up.
And what responsibility and work? Watch TV all day? Golf?
No, he needs the job, and his ego won't allow him to admit he lost. This guy is dangerous. He's hurting the country NOW, as the time grows shorter who knows what he's going to do.
But, this IS America. We know how to handle his kind, eventually. If he pushes too far, we will push right back.
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Trump is not just being a jerk, he is being dangerous. How far will he take this? Will he order the wall around the White House built higher and stronger with his own security and refuse to leave? AN armed standoff? Order the military to defend him?
Unlikely.
What do you think is Trump’s favourite thing about being president? The responsibility and work of running a government? Or the rallies, the fans and being in the news constantly?
My bet is that he will step down peacefully, but never step aside quietly. He’ll keep doing rallies, he’ll keep tweeting, he’ll keep selling merch and he’ll keep stirring up shit.
Being the “legitimate” people’s president who tried to Make America Great Again, but had the job stolen from him by the corrupt elites and the lame stream media is a perfect fit for the grievance culture he thrives off. It’s going to be his brand and his business model for years.
This of course is plenty dangerous enough.
You forgot about the part where being president makes him immune to prosecution, he can pardon himself (he thinks) and his friends and can fire people in the justice department if they try and look at his taxes.
His position protects him, and he won't give it up.
And what responsibility and work? Watch TV all day? Golf?
No, he needs the job, and his ego won't allow him to admit he lost. This guy is dangerous. He's hurting the country NOW, as the time grows shorter who knows what he's going to do.
But, this IS America. We know how to handle his kind, eventually. If he pushes too far, we will push right back.
I think I wrote this before, but in short, here's my theory:
- He won't concede. He doesn't have to.
- He will pardon himself
Result: He doesn't have to publicly admit defeat, he won't have to be present at the whole inauguration thing, and he will be immune to at least federal prosecution. He will continue to rant and rave about how the election was stolen. He will fire up his new media venture and try to take the mantel from Rush, make $250 mill a year doing so, and keep himself in the limelight enjoying the embrace from his base.
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Trump finally admitted that Biden won the election.
He the immediately said Biden cheated and that hw would keep fighting and eventually win.
But hey, progress! The fat orange clown finally figured out 306 is bigger than 232.
It's bigger than 303 too. :D
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Trump’s lawyers have dropped the claim that observers didn’t have access in Pennsylvania.
They are now only claiming that allowing voters to fix any technical problems on their ballot shouldn’t have been allowed.
So no fraud then. They aren’t even alleging fraud in court. Just trying to invalidate people’s votes.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-campaign-retreats-from-key-claim-in-pennsylvania-suit-donald-trump-joe-biden-pennsylvania-ap-claim-b1723452.html
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My stupid lazy niece didn't vote. I filled out her ballot and mailed it in.
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My stupid lazy niece didn't vote. I filled out her ballot and mailed it in.
So you stole her ballot and voted for Trump? You forge her signature as well?
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My stupid lazy niece didn't vote. I filled out her ballot and mailed it in.
Someone cheated!
Better throw 150 million votes in the trash and start again.
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What a dumbass.
Trump's ego is so huge he's going to have a meltdown over this until the day he dies.
Hopefully in prison. ;D
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Speaking of his ego not letting him admit he lost... now all the court cases he lost and got thrown out of court are suddeny 'other people' and totally nothing to do with him.
He would never lose a court case! LOL.
How long before he claims Rudy was just a loose cannon and he hardly knows the guy?
Many of the court cases being filed all over the Country are not ours, but rather those of people that have seen horrible abuses. Our big cases showing the unconstitutionality of the 2020 Election, & the outrage of things that were done to change the outcome, will soon be filed! - @realDonaldTrump
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What a dumbass.
Trump's ego is so huge he's going to have a meltdown over this until the day he dies.
Hopefully in prison. ;D
That's what happens when you are a spoiled and delusional billionaire whom was supported by their father from the beginning.
Though sorry, he will face no prison time.
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What a dumbass.
Trump's ego is so huge he's going to have a meltdown over this until the day he dies.
Hopefully in prison. ;D
That's what happens when you are a spoiled and delusional billionaire whom was supported by their father from the beginning.
Though sorry, he will face no prison time.
Let me dream! >:(
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My stupid lazy niece didn't vote. I filled out her ballot and mailed it in.
Oooohhhh!!! I'm going to screenshot this and send it to Trump's voter fraud website.
Unless you filled in her ballot for Trump. In which case it is not voter fraud.
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Speaking of his ego not letting him admit he lost... now all the court cases he lost and got thrown out of court are suddeny 'other people' and totally nothing to do with him.
He would never lose a court case! LOL.
How long before he claims Rudy was just a loose cannon and he hardly knows the guy?
Many of the court cases being filed all over the Country are not ours, but rather those of people that have seen horrible abuses. Our big cases showing the unconstitutionality of the 2020 Election, & the outrage of things that were done to change the outcome, will soon be filed! - @realDonaldTrump
I like how he flat out says he hasn't even filed any court cases with his mountain of evidence. XD
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That's what happens when you are a spoiled and delusional billionaire whom was supported by their father from the beginning.
Though sorry, he will face no prison time.
Nah, he lost his daddys money with bad deals and failed casinos. When that ran out he made millions on TV pretending to be rich. Then when he blew through that as well, he turned to the Russian mob for money laundering deals funded by Deutshe Bank. He's still in hock for over 400 million.
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Georgia found some missing ballots https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-recount-uncovers-2600-new-votes-in-presidential-race/I75NSPYYGNF43HQZBPYKJWJ5MA/
A recount in Georgia’s presidential race found more than 2,600 ballots in Floyd County that hadn’t originally been tallied, likely helping President Donald Trump reduce his 14,000-vote deficit to Joe Biden.
Trump could gain nearly 800 net votes from the discovered ballots. There were 1,643 new votes for Trump and 865 for Biden.
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My stupid lazy niece didn't vote. I filled out her ballot and mailed it in.
So you stole her ballot and voted for Trump?
yes
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My stupid lazy niece didn't vote. I filled out her ballot and mailed it in.
So you stole her ballot and voted for Trump?
yes
Assuming you're not making it all up to troll, did you fake her signature? What would you have done if she decided to vote after you sent it in?
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Bulls wrinkles is basically on the edge of death with his copd and the corone being everywhere in the us, he probably doesnt give a fuck.
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Bulls wrinkles is basically on the edge of death with his copd and the corone being everywhere in the us, he probably doesnt give a fuck.
I'm still guessing he's joking and doesn't want to go to jail. I'm also guessing he was too apathetic to vote at all, let alone commit fraud.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/16/lindsey-graham-georgia-2020-election-436910
Remember normal times, where something like this would force a senator to resign?
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/16/lindsey-graham-georgia-2020-election-436910
Remember normal times, where something like this would force a senator to resign?
Lindsey can't outrun his sexuality forever.
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In the name of Jesus Pat Robertson still thinks Trump will win the election https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1328799694051549195?s=20
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In the name of Jesus Pat Robertson still thinks Trump will win the election https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1328799694051549195?s=20
"We will not give up this great country and Satan, you cannot have it.""
Looks like the libs are going to have to get their own Satan.
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In the name of Jesus Pat Robertson still thinks Trump will win the election https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1328799694051549195?s=20
I'm confident that auditing the Election through legal, systematic avenues will produce instances of voter fraud that'll change the outcome.
Then, once those few hundred or maybe even a thousand votes have been found, and once the popular vote has been adjusted very slightly to reflect that, Biden will still be President.
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My stupid lazy niece didn't vote. I filled out her ballot and mailed it in.
So you stole her ballot and voted for Trump?
yes
Assuming you're not making it all up to troll, did you fake her signature?
Yes
What would you have done if she decided to vote after you sent it in?
crack another beer
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https://www.axios.com/trump-fires-cybersecurity-christopher-krebs-fa03f026-1acb-4669-8e76-38f13307f7bd.html
Trump fires his cybersecurity chief.
This totally doesn't make him look like a giant baby.
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https://www.axios.com/trump-fires-cybersecurity-christopher-krebs-fa03f026-1acb-4669-8e76-38f13307f7bd.html
Trump fires his cybersecurity chief.
This totally doesn't make him look like a giant baby.
I know you're being sarcastic, but this is one instance where I'm 100% opposed to Trump.
Our Elections are fine. If he wants to audit them and ensure that, I have no issue with it. But to make such bold claims about voter fraud and to contest the outcome of the Election without any meaningful, significant evidence is foolish.
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https://www.axios.com/trump-fires-cybersecurity-christopher-krebs-fa03f026-1acb-4669-8e76-38f13307f7bd.html
Trump fires his cybersecurity chief.
This totally doesn't make him look like a giant baby.
I know you're being sarcastic, but this is one instance where I'm 100% opposed to Trump.
Our Elections are fine. If he wants to audit them and ensure that, I have no issue with it. But to make such bold claims about voter fraud and to contest the outcome of the Election without any meaningful, significant evidence is foolish.
Trump is going to place some pastry chef that made him yummy pop tarts and flattered him as head of the agency, and he will start telling everyone Trump[ is right.
Trump will likely take old reports, cross out the "no" of "no fraud" with a sharpie and proclaim himself the victor again.
At this point, anyone who voted for Trump that doesn't feel a LITTLE bad about it needs to try harder.
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Initially Wayne County, Michigan refused to Certify their election results of a Biden win.
At 9:12PM Trump began tweeting about it, bragging that they refused to certify the results
At 9:14PM Wayne County announced they reversed the Decision & will certify Biden's win
LOL
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Initially Wayne County, Michigan refused to Certify their election results of a Biden win.
At 9:12PM Trump began tweeting about it, bragging that they refused to certify the results
At 9:14PM Wayne County announced they reversed the Decision & will certify Biden's win
LOL
I came here to laugh at Trump about this too. ;D
What a dumbass. And I bet 99% of Trump voters think Trump has won Michigan. It will be days before some of them figure it out, and years from now they will still be puzzled why Michigan is blue when Trump clearly won it. I mean, he said so!!! :o
Too bad Tom abandoned this thread (and hopefully his clown of a Presidents chances at winning and we can't hear his take on how QAnon is behind it all and it's all part of Trumps 6D chess game.
(https://i.imgur.com/Nvq4vf0.png)
FIVE MINUTES LATER....
(https://i.imgur.com/bAF4HjJ.png)
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/18/trump-pennsylvania-election-lawsuit-437996
Trump is filing a lawsuit to declare himself the winner in Pennsylvania for... reasons.
There's a brightside to this nonsense. If Trump believes he can steal the elections by running everything through the courts then he's less likely to consider other solutions to the stealing the election.
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I can't wait to see how that one turns out.
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He's got his top man on it, Rudy Giuliani.
Never have I wished for cameras in a courtroom more than now.
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What if these frivolous court cases are still going on before the electoral college meets to vote? Can States that are supposedly in contention still vote?
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He's got his top man on it, Rudy Giuliani.
Never have I wished for cameras in a courtroom more than now.
At $20k per day, I wonder how long he can drag it out.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/us/politics/giuliani-trump-election-pay.html
What if these frivolous court cases are still going on before the electoral college meets to vote? Can States that are supposedly in contention still vote?
As I understand it, December 12 is pretty much the drop-dead date for states to certify so that the electors can vote on the 14th.
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Rudy Giuliani is having a press conference involving the election.
I'm not so sure I can take it seriously since this new venue just doesn't have the same gravitas as the parking lot of a landscaping business next to a sex shop.
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“Your question is fundamentally flawed, when you’re asking, ‘Where’s the evidence?’ You clearly don’t understand the legal process,”
- Jenna Ellis, senior legal adviser for the Trump campaign
Say what now, Jenna?
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One must watch the actual video to get the full effect. Giuliani's hair dye is leaking onto his shirt.
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This press conference is amazing. There is a second lawyer now who is going into a word salad of Clinton Foundation, George Soros and something about software with backdoors. I'm really having a difficult time following all these separate conspiracies.
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I can't help but to wonder if any of these people criticizing the voting machines have actually examined them or have any clue as to how they work.
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I mean, I get it was a mess but not shocked since this is new for alot of people. Usually its just machines counting ballots so any fraud is totally under the radar. But now its hand ballots with paper and signatures and everything. So yeah, everyone is kinds frantic.
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This press conference is amazing. There is a second lawyer now who is going into a word salad of Clinton Foundation, George Soros and something about software with backdoors. I'm really having a difficult time following all these separate conspiracies.
(https://i.ibb.co/ZcH4mYB/fes.jpg)
I thought, no Crouton is making that up, but IT'S REAL. Now I must find the press conference on youtube so I can become even more horrified.
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This press conference is amazing. There is a second lawyer now who is going into a word salad of Clinton Foundation, George Soros and something about software with backdoors. I'm really having a difficult time following all these separate conspiracies.
(https://i.ibb.co/ZcH4mYB/fes.jpg)
I thought, no Crouton is making that up, but IT'S REAL. Now I must find the press conference on youtube so I can become even more horrified.
It's horrific.
The guy charges $20K per day for his services so maybe this hair dye thing is intended. To get all the libs to watch what he has to say.
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This press conference is amazing. There is a second lawyer now who is going into a word salad of Clinton Foundation, George Soros and something about software with backdoors. I'm really having a difficult time following all these separate conspiracies.
(https://i.ibb.co/ZcH4mYB/fes.jpg)
I thought, no Crouton is making that up, but IT'S REAL. Now I must find the press conference on youtube so I can become even more horrified.
It's horrific.
The guy charges $20K per day for his services so maybe this hair dye thing is intended. To get all the libs to watch what he has to say.
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The message is clear- This is what your fences will look like if you use inferior exterior wood stain. Four seasons landscaping stocks only quality branded wood stains and seals in the full range of colours for any application!
Not only did I laugh, but that is super creative, well done!
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The message is clear- This is what your fences will look like if you use inferior exterior wood stain. Four seasons landscaping stocks only quality branded wood stains and seals in the full range of colours for any application!
Not only did I laugh, but that is super creative, well done!
Agreed.
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(https://i.imgur.com/lQRIH3m.png)
Oh my God. How does anyone take this guy seriously. I love how he cropped out the part that mentioned the TINY fact that the results have been certified.
So... he delayed the certification of his loss by a few hours? VICTORY!
Even taking that lie at face value, it's still pathetic.
"We withdrew because we won!"
No wonder this guy lost. What an idiot. ;D
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-19/trump-campaign-seeks-to-withdraw-michigan-election-suit
Trump Campaign Drops Michigan Election Suit, Claims Victory
President Donald Trump’s campaign says it’s dropping its Michigan election lawsuit because it succeeded in halting certification of election results in Detroit and surrounding Wayne County, despite the outcome already having been certified in favor of President-elect Joe Biden.
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(https://i.imgur.com/lQRIH3m.png)
Oh my God. How does anyone take this guy seriously. I love how he cropped out the part that mentioned the TINY fact that the results have been certified.
So... he delayed the certification of his loss by a few hours? VICTORY!
Even taking that lie at face value, it's still pathetic.
"We withdrew because we won!"
No wonder this guy lost. What an idiot. ;D
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-19/trump-campaign-seeks-to-withdraw-michigan-election-suit
Trump Campaign Drops Michigan Election Suit, Claims Victory
President Donald Trump’s campaign says it’s dropping its Michigan election lawsuit because it succeeded in halting certification of election results in Detroit and surrounding Wayne County, despite the outcome already having been certified in favor of President-elect Joe Biden.
How can somebody be so fucking retarded? Thats just pathetic.
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This press conference is amazing. There is a second lawyer now who is going into a word salad of Clinton Foundation, George Soros and something about software with backdoors. I'm really having a difficult time following all these separate conspiracies.
(https://i.ibb.co/ZcH4mYB/fes.jpg)
I thought, no Crouton is making that up, but IT'S REAL. Now I must find the press conference on youtube so I can become even more horrified.
It's bad.
I got no problem with aging. If I'm going grey, I'm going grey; if I'm going bald, I'm going bald.
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(https://i.imgur.com/lQRIH3m.png)
Oh my God. How does anyone take this guy seriously. I love how he cropped out the part that mentioned the TINY fact that the results have been certified.
So... he delayed the certification of his loss by a few hours? VICTORY!
Even taking that lie at face value, it's still pathetic.
"We withdrew because we won!"
No wonder this guy lost. What an idiot. ;D
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-19/trump-campaign-seeks-to-withdraw-michigan-election-suit
Trump Campaign Drops Michigan Election Suit, Claims Victory
President Donald Trump’s campaign says it’s dropping its Michigan election lawsuit because it succeeded in halting certification of election results in Detroit and surrounding Wayne County, despite the outcome already having been certified in favor of President-elect Joe Biden.
Let's talk about how scummy it is to file frivolous lawsuits in order to tie up the election certification process so that you can try to invalidate votes against you. Apparently Arizona isn't going to certify the election until all the lawsuits are settled, which means Trump could literally just keep filing these stupid lawsuits until after the deadline for certification and prevent Arizona from certifying, invalidating all those people's votes.
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Let's talk about how scummy it is to file frivolous lawsuits in order to tie up the election certification process so that you can try to invalidate votes against you. Apparently Arizona isn't going to certify the election until all the lawsuits are settled, which means Trump could literally just keep filing these stupid lawsuits until after the deadline for certification and prevent Arizona from certifying, invalidating all those people's votes.
According to this site (https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020), Arizona's deadline to certify is 11/30/2020. Not sure what happens if any of the states miss their deadline.
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics/michigan-house-speaker-will-meet-trump/index.html
Something really weird is happening with the GOP in Michigan. Why would these people agree to meet at all with Trump? They should at least make him come to them.
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Michigan
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics/michigan-house-speaker-will-meet-trump/index.html
Something really weird is happening with the GOP in Michigan. Why would these people agree to meet at all with Trump? They should at least make him come to them.
Because that doesn't look shady as fuck. Nope. Not at all.
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Michigan
At what point does this cross into illegal election interference?
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I guess it will cross the line if they do what Trump wants, but they can talk about it all they want.
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Michigan
At what point does this cross into illegal election interference treason?
I seriously doubt that Trump will be able to steal this state let alone the election. But he may succeed in shifting the Overton Window on what the Republican party can do in an election.
They already have the electoral college on their side and soon it might be acceptable in their eyes to steal a state or 2 if things are close enough.
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Michigan
At what point does this cross into illegal election interference treason?
I seriously doubt that Trump will be able to steal this state let alone the election. But he may succeed in shifting the Overton Window on what the Republican party can do in an election.
They already have the electoral college on their side and soon it might be acceptable in their eyes to steal a state or 2 if things are close enough.
Wouldn't really matter, the US elections have never been democratic anyway.
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I guess it will cross the line if they do what Trump wants, but they can talk about it all they want.
But doesn't even just talking about it get into the fuzzy territory of conspiracy/collusion?
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It's all baby steps. This time around it was shocking but will be accepted as a new normal. The precedent has been made and in 2024 the GOP will do whatever it wants and people will just accept it. Hell, they'll expect it
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I think they could cross the line into conspiring to commit a crime, but I don't know how far they have to go to get there. One of Trump's lawyers urged militias to retake the country, that kinda seems to cross a line, but I haven't seen any of the 1st amendment people I follow talk about it.
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Newsweek: Trump Supporters in Georgia Threaten to Destroy GOP, Boycott Runoff Elections.
https://www.newsweek.com/georgia-trump-supporters-destroy-gop-boycott-senate-runoffs-1549245
Oh no! Maga heads have an awesome plan to really stick it to the Dems here.
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Pennsylvania dismissed Trump's suit with prejudice https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057.202.0_1.pdf
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Pennsylvania dismissed Trump's suit with prejudice https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057.202.0_1.pdf
Ouch. That is some serious prejudice. :)
I guess Trump will call this a GREAT VICTORY and continue denying reality.
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He's transitioning to his next plan, pressuring the GOP to steal states for him. This plan is also failing pretty hard.
I'm kind of impressed. They're not even bending to just give him a few more votes to humor him.
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(https://i.imgur.com/9W2AEYw.jpg?fb)
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Newsweek: Trump Supporters in Georgia Threaten to Destroy GOP, Boycott Runoff Elections.
https://www.newsweek.com/georgia-trump-supporters-destroy-gop-boycott-senate-runoffs-1549245
Oh no! Maga heads have an awesome plan to really stick it to the Dems here.
Wow. They are civil warring within themselves. Not shocked, but ya sleep in the bed ya make and they made this bed
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This is some fun stuff.
(Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump's election campaign on Sunday distanced itself from Sidney Powell, a lawyer who claimed at a news conference last week that electronic voting systems had switched millions of ballots to President-elect Joe Biden.
"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," Trump campaign lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis said in a statement. "She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team."
Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EndgPVgXIAcQZJe?format=jpg&name=900x900)
More dirt from WaPO:
"Two advisers to Trump, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations, said that the president disliked the coverage Powell was receiving from Fox News host Tucker Carlson and others and that several allies had reached out to say she had gone too far. The advisers also said she fought with Giuliani and others in recent days.
“She was too crazy even for the president,” a campaign official said."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/22/giuliani-releases-statement-distancing-trump-campaign-lawyer-sidney-powell/
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Maybe Hugo Chavez will hire her!
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This is some fun stuff.
(Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump's election campaign on Sunday distanced itself from Sidney Powell, a lawyer who claimed at a news conference last week that electronic voting systems had switched millions of ballots to President-elect Joe Biden.
"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," Trump campaign lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis said in a statement. "She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team."
Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EndgPVgXIAcQZJe?format=jpg&name=900x900)
More dirt from WaPO:
"Two advisers to Trump, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations, said that the president disliked the coverage Powell was receiving from Fox News host Tucker Carlson and others and that several allies had reached out to say she had gone too far. The advisers also said she fought with Giuliani and others in recent days.
“She was too crazy even for the president,” a campaign official said."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/22/giuliani-releases-statement-distancing-trump-campaign-lawyer-sidney-powell/
So what was going on when the three of them held that press conference a week ago?
They must think the public is even stupider than they are.
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So what was going on when the three of them held that press conference a week ago?
They must think the public is even stupider than they are.
Trump thinks his followers/worshipers are that stupid, and they are. They have to be for believing his bullshit after 4 years of it.
It looks like there is no limit to how dumb Republicans are capable of getting. "I hardly knew the guy" keeps working for them I guess. Sounds legit?
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That could also been seen as a public firing, as in she was working on the Trump legal team, but no longer is.
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That could also been seen as a public firing, as in she was working on the Trump legal team, but no longer is.
Yes, it could at a stretch. And that’s the whole point. The wording very strongly implies that they just have nothing to do with her, but it’s deliberately ambiguous. If they wanted to be open and honest they would have just said she was leaving, like normal people (even normal lawyers).
I wonder long these two legal geniuses burnt the midnight oil coming up with that statement?
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The attorney leading President Donald Trump’s recount effort in Wisconsin voted illegally according to his own legal argument that in-person absentee ballots should be thrown out. So did his wife.
Jim Troupis, a former Dane County judge and Cross Plains attorney who is representing the Trump campaign, would not answer questions about why he and his wife voted that way.
Troupis and his wife voted early using the state's in-person absentee option — one of a group of voters whose ballots the Trump campaign has asked election officials to deem illegal.
Their names appeared on exhibits Troupis submitted to the Dane County Board of Canvassers on Sunday, during the county's third day of retallying ballots. The exhibits include lists of voters who voted in a manner the campaign alleges is illegal, an argument the Board of Canvassers has rejected. The information was provided by Dane County to both campaigns...
https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/22/attorney-heading-up-trump-recount-wants-throw-out-his-own-vote/6382647002/
:D
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Looks like Team Trump's strategy of spamming the courts might be getting ready to backfire, bigly.
New Jersey Lawmaker Pushes To Disbar Rudy Giuliani For Deceitful, 'Absurd' Election Cases
Giuliani has caused "irreversible damage to the public trust in the fair administration of our elections," Rep. Bill Pascrell wrote to officials policing attorney conduct.
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Does Howie get inaugurated January 20th or 21st, 2021? I can never remember which day it is.
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Who?
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Who?
No idea.
Biden will be inaugurated on the 20th.
Trump will hold his own even better inauguration, with hookers and blow. And his idiot worshipers will spend the next four years claiming Trump is the real President, exiled to whatever golf resort he flees the country for.
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Who?
No idea.
Biden will be inaugurated on the 20th.
Trump will hold his own even better inauguration, with hookers and blow. And his idiot worshipers will spend the next four years claiming Trump is the real President, exiled to whatever golf resort he flees the country for.
I definitely want in to Trumps Inaugural after-party. Sounds like way more fun than Joe's.
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Looks like GSA is finally making the Biden transition official.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/transition-biden-gsa-begin/index.html
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Looks like GSA is finally making the Biden transition official.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/transition-biden-gsa-begin/index.html
Finally.
Oh, and Howie was the Green Party candidate. ;)
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Good news.
The next few days should be fun watching a trickle of face saving and arse covering turn into a tide, as grandees of Republican Party try to weasel their way back to democracy.
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I'm guessing this is the closest we'll get to a concession:
(https://i.imgur.com/O1kTcGL.jpg)
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At least he's not summoning the angels from Africa.
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At least he's not summoning the angels from Africa.
Gotta love the right wing evangelist nutters and the clueless followers... Just brilliant.
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I don't know how their followers don't realize the televangelists are atheists.
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I'm guessing this is the closest we'll get to a concession:
(https://i.imgur.com/O1kTcGL.jpg)
That was not written by Trump.
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Perhaps they replaced him with a newer version, but this time they didn't forget to put the brain inside?
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Perhaps they replaced him with a newer version, but this time they didn't forget to put the brain inside?
Or, you know, an aide.
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Trump totally wasn't responsible for delaying the decision, but now that the GSA made it Trump totally is responsible for it.
Right.
Dumb as a stump.
The only thing that makes this attempted coup bearable is how incompetent Trump and his allies are at it. Still, it's panful to watch a quarter of the country and half the government cowardly going along with it. The GOP has no backbone and no morals. Any they once had they threw away with their behavior now.
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Well, it's not as if Trump conceded or the GSA referred to Biden as president-elect. They're just humoring everyone by letting Biden officially plan a transition that will never happen, because, you know, Trump won by a lot.
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A missed opportunity by trump.
What he should have done is signed an executive order to direct the gsa to humor all senior citizens suffering from dementia and trump derangement syndrome to pretend that they won the election.
It would have meant spending huge amounts of cash and risking national security but it's a small price to pay to own the libs.
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A missed opportunity by trump.
What he should have done is signed an executive order to direct the gsa to humor all senior citizens suffering from dementia and trump derangement syndrome to pretend that they won the election.
Would that executive order include Trump as one of the demented senior citizens pretending that they won?
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A missed opportunity by trump.
What he should have done is signed an executive order to direct the gsa to humor all senior citizens suffering from dementia and trump derangement syndrome to pretend that they won the election.
Would that executive order include Trump as one of the demented senior citizens pretending that they won?
Obviously. That's an additional benefit that would allow him to pretend to be president.
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A missed opportunity by trump.
What he should have done is signed an executive order to direct the gsa to humor all senior citizens suffering from dementia and trump derangement syndrome to pretend that they won the election.
Would that executive order include Trump as one of the demented senior citizens pretending that they won?
Obviously. That's an additional benefit that would allow him to pretend to be president.
Can’t he just build himself a replica of the White House on one of his golf courses? I say white, I mean gold of course.
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Perhaps they replaced him with a newer version, but this time they didn't forget to put the brain inside?
Or, you know, an aide.
Oh look, another guy who not only lost smell due to covid but also the sense of humour. I hope its not permanent.
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Pennsylvania and Nevada just certified their results making them just that much harder to overturn.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/24/pennsylvania-certifies-election.html
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Today Trump is retweeting Randy Quaid! lol https://twitter.com/RandyRRQuaid/status/1327043884082409474?s=20
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Oh. Well that makes Trump supporters seem completely reasonably and not at all batshit insane.
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Today Trump is retweeting Randy Quaid! lol https://twitter.com/RandyRRQuaid/status/1327043884082409474?s=20
Is this satire? Performance art? Or just straight up whacko?
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/25/politics/trump-pennsylvania-hearing-giuliani/index.html
Gettysburg is where we stopped these guys the last time. I guess Trump wants a do-over?
That's fine. We will stop them here again. :)
A fitting location for Trump to lose AGAIN, really.
Amazing that people like Tim are STILL convinced that Trump is going to win, that the Supreme Court will hand it to him, or congress, or Superman, or the Lone Ranger, SOMEONE will step in and save the day, surely!
The whole lot of idiots are going to be so confused when Biden is President on Jan 20th.
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/25/politics/trump-pennsylvania-hearing-giuliani/index.html
Gettysburg is where we stopped these guys the last time. I guess Trump wants a do-over?
That's fine. We will stop them here again. :)
A fitting location for Trump to lose AGAIN, really.
Amazing that people like Tim are STILL convinced that Trump is going to win, that the Supreme Court will hand it to him, or congress, or Superman, or the Lone Ranger, SOMEONE will step in and save the day, surely!
The whole lot of idiots are going to be so confused when Biden is President on Jan 20th.
Trump is trying to start another civil war. All so he can win. But I don't think it'll happen. He is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
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Today Trump is retweeting Randy Quaid! lol https://twitter.com/RandyRRQuaid/status/1327043884082409474?s=20
Is this satire? Performance art? Or just straight up whacko?
Randy Quaid lost his marbles years ago! Trump retweeted several of his tweets yesterday, which is pretty weird, but maybe Trump just doesn't know how cuckoo Randy Quaid is.
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Randy Quaid lost his marbles years ago! Trump retweeted several of his tweets yesterday, which is pretty weird, but maybe Trump just doesn't know how cuckoo Randy Quaid is.
Or, maybe Randy Quaid is just Trump's kind of cuckoo.
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Apparently today is "Kraken day" and some Trump supporters think Sidney Powell will release the Kraken. Others have said that every Wednesday before Thanksgiving will be Kraken Day from now on. lol
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I've got a live stream going waiting for it to start. I've heard that Trump was supposed to be there but someone tested positive for covid but they won't say who. Sort of odd since Trump would probably assume he's immune from covid.
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Apparently today is "Kraken day" and some Trump supporters think Sidney Powell will release the Kraken. Others have said that every Wednesday before Thanksgiving will be Kraken Day from now on. lol
I mean, technically correct.
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The New York Times: Trump Pardons Michael Flynn.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/25/us/politics/michael-flynn-pardon.html
Let the pardon orgy commence!
Hopefully Snowden will be among them.
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Why is pardoning a thing? I though everyone is equal in front of the law.
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Some Americans are more equal than others.
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I though everyone is equal in front of the law.
LoL
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So between the two thanksgiving turkeys, Corn and Cob, which was the former national security adviser and which the former campaign manager?
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Sidney Powell released the kraken in distrcoict court. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-26/ex-trump-lawyer-files-election-lawsuits-in-distrcoict-court
Already, there are claims she made so many spelling errors on purpose so the media would cover it.
OH, forgot to link directly to the filing https://www.docdroid.com/e3rhDCz/complaint-cj-pearson-v-kemp-11252020-pdf
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So did Hugo Chavez get Biden elected?
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YES!
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So did Hugo Chavez get Biden elected?
The evidence would seem to suggest that, yes.
Of course we're not allowed to see the evidence yet. They're saving it for the supreme Court because that makes perfect sense.
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So between the two thanksgiving turkeys, Corn and Cob, which was the former national security adviser and which the former campaign manager?
Good question, I'd suggest the one who was working as an undeclared agent for Turkey. He got pardonned and used his influence to get the other Turkeys pardonned.
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Trump is slowly being forced to admit that he's a loser.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/26/politics/trump-leave-office-electoral-college/index.html
Finally he said that if Biden is voted in, Trump will leave the White House.
Of course, he lies so much that his word here is worthless. But at least he said it. That's progress, right?
Baby steps.
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Trump is slowly being forced to admit that he's a loser.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/26/politics/trump-leave-office-electoral-college/index.html
Finally he said that if Biden is voted in, Trump will leave the White House.
Of course, he lies so much that his word here is worthless. But at least he said it. That's progress, right?
Baby steps.
He'll still sook it was stolen while leaving the White House and never conceding. He will do his damnedest to make Biden look illegitimate. Trump never cared about a cohesive and strong America. He's the sort of guy that not only likes to watch things burn but start the fires.
How many Presidents in your history have behaved liked Trump when they have been defeated in an election? If it's zero, then 'well done' repugnicans for being the first party to break from the tradition and being remembered for nothing more than democracy hating authoritarian dictatorship
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the Dems robbed the election fair and square.
STFU and pay taxes.
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Trump is slowly being forced to admit that he's a loser.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/26/politics/trump-leave-office-electoral-college/index.html
Finally he said that if Biden is voted in, Trump will leave the White House.
Of course, he lies so much that his word here is worthless. But at least he said it. That's progress, right?
Baby steps.
He'll still sook it was stolen while leaving the White House and never conceding. He will do his damnedest to make Biden look illegitimate. Trump never cared about a cohesive and strong America. He's the sort of guy that not only likes to watch things burn but start the fires.
How many Presidents in your history have behaved liked Trump when they have been defeated in an election? If it's zero, then 'well done' repugnicans for being the first party to break from the tradition and being remembered for nothing more than democracy hating authoritarian dictatorship
Its 0.
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Perhaps we should get Jimmy Carter to talk to him about being a one term president. Maybe tell him he's in a very special club with Carter, Bush 43, John Adams and his son, Van Buren. You know, winners, except in their run for a second term, in which case, losers.
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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-appointed-judge-dismisses-pennsylvania-election-case-trumps-latest-legal-defeat-1550860
Donald Trump's latest case regarding the 2020 election results has been dismissed. On Friday, a judge (who was appointed by Trump) dismissed the case against Pennsylvania, where Trump attempted to undo Joe Biden's victory.
Circuit Judge Stephanos Bibas, who oversaw the case, began the scathing ruling stating: "Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."
Trump nominated Bibas to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit in 2017.
Activist judges!
Rudy thinks these losses help Trump because then they can go to the Supreme Court (eventually) but I'm beginning to think it's all just a scam to get people to give them more money.
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It boggles the mind that he would think the Supreme Court would give this to him. It'll just be a bunch of 8 1 against decisions. (Clarence Thomas always sides with the conservatives no matter how ludicrous).
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The Daily Beast: Ex-Overstock CEO Says He's Put Together an 'Army of Various Odd People' to Save Trump.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-overstock-ceo-says-hes-put-together-an-army-of-various-odd-people-to-save-trump?source=articles&via=rss
Things like this make me think our economy is broken. If someone this stupid can be rich there's something seriously wrong with this country.
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When even The Daily Beast is painting this guy as a whackjob, it is a wonder these people even exist. Let alone somehow navigating the economy to become super wealthy.
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If someone this stupid can be rich there's something seriously wrong with this country.
Crazy does not always mean stupid.
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I'm beginning to think it's all just a scam to get people to give them more money.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/donor-25m-group-trying-find-election-fraud-wants-refund-report-2020-11%3famp
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Well it was something like $3m to do the Milwaukee recount that actually yielded a few hundred more votes for Biden and I'm sure that guy's money was a part of it. Disappointing indeed. But does he really have an argument to recoup his cash? I kinda don't think so. I guess some rich folk have really gotten caught up in the Kraken hype.
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I'm beginning to think it's all just a scam to get people to give them more money.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/donor-25m-group-trying-find-election-fraud-wants-refund-report-2020-11%3famp
Geez, if I had a cool $2.5 million dollars to dispose of I'd buy a nice house, car, go on a holiday (when this corone is finished). Even if I already had 10 houses, Why the frell would I want to simply 'give' it to a guy who claims he is a 'really rich' billionaire? Shouldn't he already have lots of money? Maybe Rudy if he was so concerned would do this 'pro bono' and not for $20K a day lol.
Where does the $20K a day come from anyway? Just plucked out of the air. Easy way to make more than half a million in a month I guess. Really stinks of a scam to siphon money of the plebs
You would think with half a million dollars you could actually go to a professional hair stylist to colour his hair instead of a DIY cheap supermarket
Well looks like Rudy may be facing the music
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/can-rudy-giuliani-be-disbarred-election-lawsuits-trump-ukraine-investigation-2020-11?r=US&IR=T
This guy went from a legendary hero to less than zero.
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I'm beginning to think it's all just a scam to get people to give them more money.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/donor-25m-group-trying-find-election-fraud-wants-refund-report-2020-11%3famp
That's interesting! I don't necessarily feel bad for the millionaires giving money to these groups, but I kinda do for the working poor who believe all this crap.
I know you wanted Trump to win, but I wonder how you feel about him now?
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Big massive dumps!
https://lawandcrime.com/politics/lets-talk-about-massive-dumps-that-lost-trump-the-presidential-election/
President Donald Trump, who lost the 2020 election, uttered the phrase as part of a bewildering interview with Fox News host Maria Bartiromo. He repeated unsubstantiated claims of wide-ranging election fraud, disowned Georgia Governor Brian Kemp (R), and baselessly suggested the FBI and Department of Justice were involved in stealing the race from him.
“And what happened, if you watched the election, I was called by the biggest people, saying congratulations,” he said. “Political people. ‘Congratulations, sir, you just won the election.’ It was 10 o’clock and you looked at the numbers, and I’m sure you felt that way. This election was over. And then they did dumps. They called them dumps. Big massive dumps in Michigan, and Pennsylvania, and all over.”
lol
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Gabriel Sterling is done with the bullshit.
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I've got to say that through all this what impresses me the most is how strong the institution of our elections are. The most powerful man in the world is railing against it 24/7 and it has not budged an inch.
There's this notion among among liberals that republicans win elections through gerrymandering and voter suppression. I'm going to have to reassess my opinion of that. After seeing how hard it is to fuck with our elections I'm starting to wonder if the accusations of voter suppression are just a little overstated.
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I've got to say that through all this what impresses me the most is how strong the institution of our elections are. The most powerful man in the world is railing against it 24/7 and it has not budged an inch.
There's this notion among among liberals that republicans win elections through gerrymandering and voter suppression. I'm going to have to reassess my opinion of that. After seeing how hard it is to fuck with our elections I'm starting to wonder if the accusations of voter suppression are just a little overstated.
Voter suppression can take many forms, such as Texas opting for 1 drop off location per county for absentee ballots instead of basing it off population count. As for the strength of our election process, it is only as strong as our judiciary. Several of the battle ground states have members of their state legislatures attempting to invalidate the state's election results so that they can choose the electors instead of the people choosing them. It's the judiciary that is largely stopping this from happening.
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I just started watching, this will be fantastic. It's entitled "This may be the most important speech I've ever made...."
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He really can't figure out how other Republicans won down ticket, but he lost at the top of the ticket. And also, the Dominion system does all the counting in some other country, maybe, and it might be a nefarious place, who knows, except he knows, he totally knows. I guess Hugo Chavez did the counting.
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I just started watching, this will be fantastic. It's entitled "This may be the most important speech I've ever made...."
What is he doing!?!? I'm only 3 minutes in. Is he really going to lay out all of his fraud charges for 45 mins?
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Holy God it goes on for 46 minutes...
There's also an insane Rudy Giuliani clown show going right now.
I really think that just to be safe we should invade Venezuela. Or Brazil. Whichever country Hugo Chavez's ghost is interfering from.
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This camera angle is very odd.
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I really think that just to be safe we should invade Venezuela. Or Brazil. Whichever country Hugo Chavez's ghost is interfering from.
Tough choice. Venezuela has plenty of oil, but Brazil has the hot babes on their beaches.
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Well I'm guessing he's not ready to concede yet.
I really think that just to be safe we should invade Venezuela. Or Brazil. Whichever country Hugo Chavez's ghost is interfering from.
Tough choice. Venezuela has plenty of oil, but Brazil has the hot babes on their beaches.
Brazil does have a threatening lead in hair removal technology.
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What's weird is CNN doesn't even mention the address and Fox does, but barely, halfway down the page. Like the media is almost disregarding his 46 mins of I-don't-know-what.
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Mrs Boydster just got home, so we started it back from the beginning. I only made it about 15 minutes in, but it's been just a parade of "I can't believe I lost, so I didn't lose, look at this chart" and whining. It's really weird.
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I saw a mention of it on the Washington Post.
But this is basically a rerun. He hasn't introduced any new conspiracy theories so far.
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She's yelling at the TV now, this might have been a bad idea
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20 minutes in. It looks like he's now whining about the Mueller investigation and being impeached.
He's also whining about his attorney general.
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Weird random tweets from him about fraud is one thing. But I'm just blown away that he's standing there for 45 minutes behind the presidential seal talking about the Mueller Report and the 100's of thousands of dead people who voted against him. He even brought up the whole dominion thing.
I think the Barr thing yesterday pushed him over the edge. He is clearly out of his mind.
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I'm to the part where he talks about the massive dumps.
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I'm to the part where he talks about the massive dumps.
He even charted his massive dump that took place at around 6:34 AM. He said all of the other dumps were normal, but that one was "massive". Based upon that chart, he should see a gastroenterologist.
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Alright. I've finished watching that craziness. Now onto the Giuliani show.
This is a house hearing in Michigan. Immediately one of the democrats on the panel called to have Rudy Giuliani swear in. Oddly enough the Republicans did not take kindly to that idea.
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I quit with about 10 minutes left. I think he'd already said everything, lol
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Nah, Trump's a lightweight. To get the hard stuff, gotta go for Lin Wood, he's a whole other level of batshit crazy. I think he could be President in 2024?
https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elections/2020/11/meet-the-lawyer-behind-the-georgia-election-lawsuit-that-trump-is-obsessed-with/
Here's a sample...
Wood repeatedly emailed them at odd hours and reiterated that he was behaving according to God’s will and would not pay them. “God has given me permission to be profane in this email,” he wrote early one morning around 3:45 a.m. “You damn dumb motherfuckers…God Almighty told me to get you back to where you belong. Broke and essentially homeless.”
He continued: “You all better get on your knees and pray to Almighty God that He now asks me to show you mercy. If he does, I will show it, if he does not, I will deliver a fiery judgment against you on earth. Who the fuck did you think you were dealing with? You were screwing around me with [sic], but I was someone else in disguise. You in fact have been screwing around with God Almighty. I am not God. You lied when you told others that I thought I was…I am L. Lin Wood—the sole member of L. Lin Wood, P.C. The architect of the most masterful and powerful Valentine’s Day massacre known in American history. The last one killed seven. Mine will ruin many more before it is over. Deservedly so.”
Oh, and forgot to mention he has proof Brian Kemp is a chinese agent.
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lol, I'm definitely going to watch the Giuliani thing tomorrow. https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1334311448340795396?s=20
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Alright. I've finished watching that craziness. Now onto the Giuliani show.
This is a house hearing in Michigan. Immediately one of the democrats on the panel called to have Rudy Giuliani swear in. Oddly enough the Republicans did not take kindly to that idea.
How odd. You'd think they'd have suggested it first, because Rudy isn't lying. Right?
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lol, I'm definitely going to watch the Giuliani thing tomorrow. https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1334311448340795396?s=20
I would love to buy that Melissa Corone a drink and find out what she really thinks.
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Here's Melissa's full testimony. I really don't have words to describe it other than my faith in humanity is at around DEFCON 2.
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lol, I'm definitely going to watch the Giuliani thing tomorrow. https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1334311448340795396?s=20
I would love to buy that Melissa Corone a drink and find out what she really thinks.
I think someone already bought her a few drinks. She's like a perfect demonstration of Dunning–Kruger.
I find it hard to believe she isn't a comedy creation. I suspect at the end of it she'll stand up and reveal herself to be Sacha Baron Cohen in a latex suit.
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I suspect at the end of it she'll stand up and reveal herself to be Sacha Baron Cohen in a latex suit.
That is literally the only sane explanation.
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Here's Melissa's full testimony. I really don't have words to describe it other than my faith in humanity is at around DEFCON 2.
OMG she reminds me of Sarah Palin.
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Here's Melissa's full testimony. I really don't have words to describe it other than my faith in humanity is at around DEFCON 2.
OMG she reminds me of Sarah Palin.
How about Victoria Jackson from SNL?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3732271685/65631d1f3d340e53c16333cd9485240f_400x400.jpeg)
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OH yes, she is an unholy combination of those two. Earlier Kate McKinnon was trending because everyone wants her to to play her on SNL.
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I'm nearing the end of it, she's now repeating that she was an IT worker. Earlier she said she told people how to unjam the machines, which are like printers. I think IT worker is a bit much! I mean, I could be an IT worker if that is how you get that title.
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"IT worker" basically means nothing. She's not the brightest button in the box.
She's clearly relishing being the centre of attention though.
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Even Rudy was trying to reel her in. She was too over-the-top even for his comfort. Wow!
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Shush...
My god, Rudy and Trump have become such a shitshow.
I'm sorry, but anyone who voted for Trump and still supports his literally trying to orchestrate a coup, should be deeply ashamed of themselves.
This of course applies to pretty much every GOP elected official. They are all complicit in his treason.
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I'm nearing the end of it, she's now repeating that she was an IT worker. Earlier she said she told people how to unjam the machines, which are like printers. I think IT worker is a bit much! I mean, I could be an IT worker if that is how you get that title.
There are various levels of IT work. Sounds like she was first level help desk support, which is an entry level job and basically means that she takes end user calls and works from a script and flow chart to fix the simple problems. Anything more complicated gets kicked up to second level people who actually know what they're doing.
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I'm nearing the end of it, she's now repeating that she was an IT worker. Earlier she said she told people how to unjam the machines, which are like printers. I think IT worker is a bit much! I mean, I could be an IT worker if that is how you get that title.
There are various levels of IT work. Sounds like she was first level help desk support, which is an entry level job and basically means that she takes end user calls and works from a script and flow chart to fix the simple problems. Anything more complicated gets kicked up to second level people who actually know what they're doing.
She's the person you call that says, "Is your device plugged in and/or powered on?" Followed by, "Have you restarted your device?" Beyond that, she hands you off to tier 2 support.
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Even Rudy was trying to reel her in. She was too over-the-top even for his comfort.
Well to fair, he'd only just met her at the hotel bar.
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I'm nearing the end of it, she's now repeating that she was an IT worker. Earlier she said she told people how to unjam the machines, which are like printers. I think IT worker is a bit much! I mean, I could be an IT worker if that is how you get that title.
There are various levels of IT work. Sounds like she was first level help desk support, which is an entry level job and basically means that she takes end user calls and works from a script and flow chart to fix the simple problems. Anything more complicated gets kicked up to second level people who actually know what they're doing.
She's the person you call that says, "Is your device plugged in and/or powered on?" Followed by, "Have you restarted your device?" Beyond that, she hands you off to tier 2 support.
The only thing level 1 support people seem know for sure is that they're very sorry and they completely understand. Also please leave them glowing reviews for every call or else they have to eat cat food tonight.
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"IT worker" basically means nothing. She's not the brightest button in the box.
She's clearly relishing being the centre of attention though.
You forgot that she's a "Freelance" "IT worker"
In other words, she has no actual accredited qualifications
At the end her true colours showed as she got more and more unhinged. Sooking that she had to get rid of her social media profile and change her number because THE DEMOCRATS WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE!
I guess she must have missed the parts where Trump has been firing and his lawyers have been calling for people doing their jobs to be shot and executed
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"IT worker" basically means nothing. She's not the brightest button in the box.
She's clearly relishing being the centre of attention though.
You forgot that she's a "Freelance" "IT worker"
In other words, she has no actual accredited qualifications
No, that isn't what freelance means. You can have accreditations out the wazoo and still be freelance.
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"IT worker" basically means nothing. She's not the brightest button in the box.
She's clearly relishing being the centre of attention though.
You forgot that she's a "Freelance" "IT worker"
In other words, she has no actual accredited qualifications
No, that isn't what freelance means. You can have accreditations out the wazoo and still be freelance.
True. But in this particular case there is nothing coming out of her wazoo.
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"IT worker" basically means nothing. She's not the brightest button in the box.
She's clearly relishing being the centre of attention though.
You forgot that she's a "Freelance" "IT worker"
In other words, she has no actual accredited qualifications
No, that isn't what freelance means. You can have accreditations out the wazoo and still be freelance.
True. But in this particular case there is nothing coming out of her wazoo.
Agreed, but irrelevant.
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"IT worker" basically means nothing. She's not the brightest button in the box.
She's clearly relishing being the centre of attention though.
You forgot that she's a "Freelance" "IT worker"
In other words, she has no actual accredited qualifications
No, that isn't what freelance means. You can have accreditations out the wazoo and still be freelance.
True. But in this particular case there is nothing coming out of her wazoo.
Agreed, but irrelevant.
Sure, but once you shove 'freelance' on front of your job title, you diminish it
Like 'freelance journalism'. It's just a fancy way of saying 'blog post'
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Didn't she say she's laid off from Ford? I really hope some former coworkers come out of the woodwork with some gossip.
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So we have the poll book being off by 100s of thousands from the official vote count, we have 0 registered voters in the poll book, and we have roughly 30,000 ballots being counted twice. All 3 of those claims seem easy to verify. Match the poll book to the vote count, which it sounds like has already happened and they line up. Verify voter registrations of those found in the poll book, which I can only assume happened when they verified the poll book count. Lastly, the ballots being counted twice, which should be the most basic of election security measures on any tabulation machine, 1 ballot 1 vote.
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Freelance is also a fancy way of saying "temp"
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Sure, but once you shove 'freelance' on front of your job title, you diminish it
Like 'freelance journalism'. It's just a fancy way of saying 'blog post'
I disagree. "Freelance" doesn't diminish one's job title any more than "professional" enhances it. There are plenty of incompetent professionals in all sorts of fields, including IT. "Freelance" is just a fancy way of saying "I don't currently have a steady gig".
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Verify voter registrations of those found in the poll book, which I can only assume happened when they verified the poll book count.
Isn't the the whole function of a poll book to keep track of registered voters?
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Sure, but once you shove 'freelance' on front of your job title, you diminish it
Like 'freelance journalism'. It's just a fancy way of saying 'blog post'
I disagree. "Freelance" doesn't diminish one's job title any more than "professional" enhances it. There are plenty of incompetent professionals in all sorts of fields, including IT. "Freelance" is just a fancy way of saying "I don't currently have a steady gig".
This.
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Verify voter registrations of those found in the poll book, which I can only assume happened when they verified the poll book count.
Isn't the the whole function of a poll book to keep track of registered voters?
I haven't checked the validity of this claim, but I've read the poll book doesn't actually state whether someone is registered. However, it does show who voted and you can only vote if you are registered, so in theory 100% of the people in the poll book should be registered.
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Didn't she say she's laid off from Ford? I really hope some former coworkers come out of the woodwork with some gossip.
Yeah, I bet her backstory is juicy.
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Apparently, the pollbook does keep track of voter registration status:
The Bureau of Elections developed computer software that can be used in the polling place on election day to process voters and generate precinct reports. The electronic pollbook (EPB) software is a unique download from the Qualified Voter File (QVF) software that can be loaded on to a laptop prior to each election. The software allows election inspectors to look up a voter's registration record, confirm their registration is correct and assign a ballot to that voter, essentially automating the typical paper process. After the election is complete, the EPB software will generate reports to complete the official precinct record (paper pollbook) and a voter history file that can be uploaded into the QVF software to update voter history in a matter of minutes.
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Sure, but once you shove 'freelance' on front of your job title, you diminish it
Like 'freelance journalism'. It's just a fancy way of saying 'blog post'
I disagree. "Freelance" doesn't diminish one's job title any more than "professional" enhances it. There are plenty of incompetent professionals in all sorts of fields, including IT. "Freelance" is just a fancy way of saying "I don't currently have a steady gig".
This.
I could set up a blog and sign each thing as me being a freelance journalist.
As a freelancer, I am accountable only to me. I don't need credentials to parade myself as a journalist.
The only reason I can't call myself a journalist is that is a professional career where I am accountable to people higher up than me and to have that backing, I'd clearly have credentials
As a freelancer, none of that matters. Personally, when I see 'freelancer' I do not hold them in the same regard professionally. You are free to think otherwise
She calls herself a freelance IT worker. I'd say she ticked a box on an employment recruitment agency saying she likes computers. When the election rolled around, they called her up for a temp gig
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She calls herself a freelance IT worker. I'd say she ticked a box on an employment recruitment agency saying she likes computers. When the election rolled around, they called her up for a temp gig
I'd say that's probably about right considering she described her duties as assisting with unjamming a tabulation machine that happens to use Information Technology to count/log things. That's what an admin assistant does in an office for the shared floor copier. So she is a "Freelance De-jammer".
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Some people call themselves "freelancers" and they have no experience or expertise, other people call themselves freelancers because they are independent, but they have expertise and experience. In the case of our freelance IT worker, she's probably an unemployed whatever looking to make herself seem important. It was probably Giuliani's idea.
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I'm 30 minutes into her "testimony". Great stuff. I believe Trump has found his new Attorney General!
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As a freelancer, I am accountable only to me.
As a freelancer, you are accountable to your client.
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Oh yeah. This Q&A is awesome.
Representative bald guy, "if what you said is true then the vote count would not match the poll book. But this is not the case"
"I saw something"(head tilt, followed by arched eyebrows)
"I signed something that said I could go to prison, did you?"
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Oh yeah. This Q&A is awesome.
Representative bald guy, "if what you said is true then the vote count would not match the poll book. But this is not the case"
"I saw something"(head tilt, followed by arched eyebrows)
"I signed something that said I could go to prison, did you?"
Oh, it just gets better and better...
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Oh yeah. This Q&A is awesome.
Representative bald guy, "if what you said is true then the vote count would not match the poll book. But this is not the case"
"I saw something"(head tilt, followed by arched eyebrows)
"I signed something that said I could go to prison, did you?"
The problem with her line of reasoning is that its very hard to prove one way or another. Without other witnesses, you can say "I saw a 3 headed dog walk across the parking lot", sign it as an avadaviet and send it to court. Court would then need to prove you didn't see it, which they may not be able to do because, well, how do we know you didn't hallucinate? So hard to prove intentional lying.
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She won't go to jail or get in any trouble for talking shit because the court sees her as nothing more than an idiot
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She won't go to jail or get in any trouble for talking shit because the court sees her as nothing more than an idiot
And this "hearing" was nothing more than a glorified press conference.
It's just come out that she has just finished probation for a 12 month suspended sentence for "computer crime" which she got as a part of plea deal for them dropping a first degree obscenity charge (I bet we'd all love to know what that was). She has also been done for driving on a suspended licence.
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It's just come out that she has just finished probation for a 12 month suspended sentence for "computer crime" which she got as a part of plea deal for them dropping a first degree obscenity charge (I bet we'd all love to know what that was).
Maybe her "computer crime" was remotely hacking voting machines and she was testifying as an expert witness.
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She calls herself a freelance IT worker. I'd say she ticked a box on an employment recruitment agency saying she likes computers. When the election rolled around, they called her up for a temp gig
I'd say that's probably about right considering she described her duties as assisting with unjamming a tabulation machine that happens to use Information Technology to count/log things. That's what an admin assistant does in an office for the shared floor copier. So she is a "Freelance De-jammer".
She called herself a "freelance IT worker" but then admitted she is employed by a temp agency. She legit calls herself freelance in order to make herself seem more qualified and important than she actually is. She is nothing more than a temporary administrative assistant who is only there to walk people through how to fix a jam, not actually fix the jam herself. She stated she wasn't allowed to touch the ballots and could only tell the workers what to do.
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She won't go to jail or get in any trouble for talking shit because the court sees her as nothing more than an idiot
And this "hearing" was nothing more than a glorified press conference.
It's just come out that she has just finished probation for a 12 month suspended sentence for "computer crime" which she got as a part of plea deal for them dropping a first degree obscenity charge (I bet we'd all love to know what that was). She has also been done for driving on a suspended licence.
Wow, I knew she'd have skeletons!
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She calls herself a freelance IT worker. I'd say she ticked a box on an employment recruitment agency saying she likes computers. When the election rolled around, they called her up for a temp gig
I'd say that's probably about right considering she described her duties as assisting with unjamming a tabulation machine that happens to use Information Technology to count/log things. That's what an admin assistant does in an office for the shared floor copier. So she is a "Freelance De-jammer".
She called herself a "freelance IT worker" but then admitted she is employed by a temp agency. She legit calls herself freelance in order to make herself seem more qualified and important than she actually is. She is nothing more than a temporary administrative assistant who is only there to walk people through how to fix a jam, not actually fix the jam herself. She stated she wasn't allowed to touch the ballots and could only tell the workers what to do.
Oh she could be freelance and work for a temp agency. I had a recruiter try to get me into that.
Basically you are offered jobs (go here and fkx X. Go here and be phone support for 2 weeks, etc...) But as a freelance, you're not on their company payroll per se. You get paid only when you have a job to do and that pay varies based on what you do and for who. Its a shit gig that lets a company hire out temps without having to actually have them on the payroll.
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As great as a computer criminal bolsters their I still think Giuliani needs to bring in the professional ghost hunter.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-fraud-witness-also-believes-ghosts-are-haunting-his-family
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As great as a computer criminal bolsters their I still think Giuliani needs to bring in the professional ghost hunter.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-fraud-witness-also-believes-ghosts-are-haunting-his-family
That would explain the ghost ballots.
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She calls herself a freelance IT worker. I'd say she ticked a box on an employment recruitment agency saying she likes computers. When the election rolled around, they called her up for a temp gig
I'd say that's probably about right considering she described her duties as assisting with unjamming a tabulation machine that happens to use Information Technology to count/log things. That's what an admin assistant does in an office for the shared floor copier. So she is a "Freelance De-jammer".
She called herself a "freelance IT worker" but then admitted she is employed by a temp agency. She legit calls herself freelance in order to make herself seem more qualified and important than she actually is. She is nothing more than a temporary administrative assistant who is only there to walk people through how to fix a jam, not actually fix the jam herself. She stated she wasn't allowed to touch the ballots and could only tell the workers what to do.
Oh she could be freelance and work for a temp agency. I had a recruiter try to get me into that.
Basically you are offered jobs (go here and fkx X. Go here and be phone support for 2 weeks, etc...) But as a freelance, you're not on their company payroll per se. You get paid only when you have a job to do and that pay varies based on what you do and for who. Its a shit gig that lets a company hire out temps without having to actually have them on the payroll.
What you described is how temp agencies work in general. They get a call from a company that needs X number of people for a job, the agency provides the people. The company pays the agency, and then the agency pays the people. The amount of pay is dependent on the job they do. The temp agency only pays their "employees" when they are on a job, and it's actually the company that pays the employees indirectly. Temp work is "freelance" in that it's inconsistent and you could be working for various companies in the span of weeks. It's not freelance in that the temp agency finds the work for you, instead of you being contacted directly by those seeking your expertise.
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She calls herself a freelance IT worker. I'd say she ticked a box on an employment recruitment agency saying she likes computers. When the election rolled around, they called her up for a temp gig
I'd say that's probably about right considering she described her duties as assisting with unjamming a tabulation machine that happens to use Information Technology to count/log things. That's what an admin assistant does in an office for the shared floor copier. So she is a "Freelance De-jammer".
She called herself a "freelance IT worker" but then admitted she is employed by a temp agency. She legit calls herself freelance in order to make herself seem more qualified and important than she actually is. She is nothing more than a temporary administrative assistant who is only there to walk people through how to fix a jam, not actually fix the jam herself. She stated she wasn't allowed to touch the ballots and could only tell the workers what to do.
Oh she could be freelance and work for a temp agency. I had a recruiter try to get me into that.
Basically you are offered jobs (go here and fkx X. Go here and be phone support for 2 weeks, etc...) But as a freelance, you're not on their company payroll per se. You get paid only when you have a job to do and that pay varies based on what you do and for who. Its a shit gig that lets a company hire out temps without having to actually have them on the payroll.
What you described is how temp agencies work in general. They get a call from a company that needs X number of people for a job, the agency provides the people. The company pays the agency, and then the agency pays the people. The amount of pay is dependent on the job they do. The temp agency only pays their "employees" when they are on a job, and it's actually the company that pays the employees indirectly. Temp work is "freelance" in that it's inconsistent and you could be working for various companies in the span of weeks. It's not freelance in that the temp agency finds the work for you, instead of you being contacted directly by those seeking your expertise.
Eh. Not always. Depends on your contract. Some will pay you a reduced wage even if you have no assigned work, so as to retain you for when there is.
But freelance is not a temp agency as you, the freelancer, have to pay all the taxes and fees generally associated with employment: so unemployment insurance, payroll tax, etc... It sucks but your client doesn't have to pay this or anything except your fee. Its a bonus for them: skilled labor, none of the tax and insurance with hiring. Downside is lack of steady people.
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Freelance, Independent Contractor, Temp, in essence all the same as described. Equalling the Gig Economy. It has its upsides for the workers, flexibility, in more skilled settings slightly higher wages, choice. Downsides, taxes, no benefits, even less protections than "at will employees".
In the case here, she is basically a low skilled temp with a suspect criminal record, probably a day drinker (which I'm all for) and above all, a pathological attention seeking liar.
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Freelance, Independent Contractor, Temp, in essence all the same as described.
Not really. Freelancers and independent contractors are self-employed. Temps are employed by the temp agency. The biggest differences are who cuts your paycheck and how your taxes are paid.
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I think we just jumped the shark on election fraud claims....
Roger Stone Says North Korean Boats Delivered Ballots Through Maine Harbor As Trump Boosts Fraud Claims
https://twitter.com/pbump/status/1334475698803707905
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Freelance, Independent Contractor, Temp, in essence all the same as described.
Not really. Freelancers and independent contractors are self-employed. Temps are employed by the temp agency. The biggest differences are who cuts your paycheck and how your taxes are paid.
So she wasn't a Freelancer at the time because she was employed by a Temp agency. Not that it matters. In any case, I would employ her just so I could hear here ramble on about a variety of topics.
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I think we just jumped the shark on election fraud claims....
Roger Stone Says North Korean Boats Delivered Ballots Through Maine Harbor As Trump Boosts Fraud Claims
https://twitter.com/pbump/status/1334475698803707905
It really doesn't get better than the Alex Jones/Roger Stone Show:
During an interview on The Alex Jones Show, Stone baselessly said he had received proof of election fraud.
"I just learned of absolute incontrovertible evidence of North Korean boats delivering ballots through a harbor in Maine, the state of Maine," Stone said. "If this checks out, if law enforcement looked into that and it turned out to be true, it would be proof of foreign involvement in the election."
I'd love to see what he thinks "absolute incontrovertible evidence" looks like.
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I think we just jumped the shark on election fraud claims....
Roger Stone Says North Korean Boats Delivered Ballots Through Maine Harbor As Trump Boosts Fraud Claims
https://twitter.com/pbump/status/1334475698803707905
It really doesn't get better than the Alex Jones/Roger Stone Show:
During an interview on The Alex Jones Show, Stone baselessly said he had received proof of election fraud.
"I just learned of absolute incontrovertible evidence of North Korean boats delivering ballots through a harbor in Maine, the state of Maine," Stone said. "If this checks out, if law enforcement looked into that and it turned out to be true, it would be proof of foreign involvement in the election."
I'd love to see what he thinks "absolute incontrovertible evidence" looks like.
But I thought Mr Un and Mr Trump were BFFs!! T_T
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How to tell when a media story is biased....
The caption of this photo was that he was 'listening to evidence '
(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/6d109beb392f73542390d04644ee8d47)
lol
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Does North Korea even have boats that can travel that far?
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[quote
absolute incontrovertible evidence
[/quote]
[quote
If this checks out
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So it is "absolute incontrovertible evidence" that may or may not check out ::)
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I'm about 30 minutes into the Trump rally.
Apparently the two democrats running are the most radical leftists in the history of the country.
If they win then they'll increase the Supreme Court to 24.
They'll introduce an additional 4 states to the country.
They'll surrender the country to China.
It's about what you'd expect. Ridiculous hyperbole. I'd say %80 of this rally is Trump saying he won the election. I'm not sure if this really helps the Republicans. I guess we'll find out in a month.
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I'm about 30 minutes into the Trump rally.
Apparently the two democrats running are the most radical leftists in the history of the country.
If they win then they'll increase the Supreme Court to 24.
They'll introduce an additional 4 states to the country.
They'll surrender the country to China.
It's about what you'd expect. Ridiculous hyperbole. I'd say %80 of this rally is Trump saying he won the election. I'm not sure if this really helps the Republicans. I guess we'll find out in a month.
What an unhinged loser. No one in good conscious can support this guy for the highest office in the free world. What a travesty. What an embarrassment. What an indictment of America that 70 million people still gave a POS like this the tick of approval
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Rudy has COVID.
I am really surprised it took this long.
I wonder how many people he spread it to.
What a bunch of idiots.
Now I wonder if COVID is transmitted via farts... or shushing people without a mask.
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Contaminated hair dye?
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Rudy has COVID.
I am really surprised it took this long.
I wonder how many people he spread it to.
What a bunch of idiots.
Now I wonder if COVID is transmitted via farts... or shushing people without a mask.
Probably spread it to his star bimbo witness lol
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https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/12/08/texas-attorney-general-ken-paxton-sues-battleground-states-says-changes-to-2020-election-laws-unconstitutional/
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton today filed a lawsuit against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in the United States Supreme Court. The four states exploited the COVID-19 pandemic to justify ignoring federal and state election laws and unlawfully enacting last-minute changes, thus skewing the results of the 2020 General Election. The battleground states flooded their people with unlawful ballot applications and ballots while ignoring statutory requirements as to how they were received, evaluated and counted.
It's so weird to watch Republicans, who are usually all about states' rights, flip like this.
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What does it say about Trump's election security team if the dems could still rig "the most secure election ever".
(https://i.ibb.co/9gsvzfn/Trump-Tweet.jpg)
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What does it say about Trump's election security team if the dems could still rig "the most secure election ever".
(https://i.ibb.co/9gsvzfn/Trump-Tweet.jpg)
That they're the smartest, most talented organization on Earth and should be running this planet
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It seems we have a major political party in America that isn't all that enamored with democracy.
Maybe they'll come to Jesus when Trump is gone or maybe this is just their new normal now. Either way there's just not a lot of republicans that I can ever see myself voting for again.
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LoL, that's a pretty mixed up tweet. It was the the most secure in history and also rigged.
OK....
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-trump-pennsylvania-election-results/2020/12/08/4d39e16c-397d-11eb-98c4-25dc9f4987e8_story.html
Trump, "Hey since I own you can you please give me Pennsylvania?"
Scotus, "Umm... pass."
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Shot down in a blaze of poo.
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If only Trump had put as much effort into fighting the corone as he's putting into fighting mail-in voting, then he probably wouldn't need to fight mail-in voting.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-arizona-idUSKBN28J018
There are no words....
The official Arizona Republican Party Twitter account had earlier retweeted a post by right-wing activist Ali Alexander, in which he pledged that he was "willing to give up my life for this fight."
The state party responded in a tweet, saying: "He is. Are you?"
In a now-deleted tweet from Monday, the party posted a movie scene from "Rambo" featuring the quote: "This is what we do, who we are. Live for nothing, or die for something."
I don't care how much they try and walk it back. They are lighting up the tinderbox happy to see people fight and kill each other. What a fkn sorry state your country is in
We had the 'Arab spring' uprising. Do we need a 'American spring' one too?
Accept your loss repugnicans. Suck it up
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We had the 'Arab spring' uprising.
How's that working out?
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Pardon Me?
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/legally-troubled-texas-a-g-concocts-absurd-election-lawsuit-as-trump-muses-about-pardons-97380933944
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Pardon Me?
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/legally-troubled-texas-a-g-concocts-absurd-election-lawsuit-as-trump-muses-about-pardons-97380933944
The party of 'law and order' huh. What a joke
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Pardon Me?
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/legally-troubled-texas-a-g-concocts-absurd-election-lawsuit-as-trump-muses-about-pardons-97380933944
It's worse than that too, 17 states have signed on with Texas in this lawsuit, mostly southern and midwestern states. I don't even know what to think about something like this, it's absolutely ridiculous.
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Pardon Me?
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/legally-troubled-texas-a-g-concocts-absurd-election-lawsuit-as-trump-muses-about-pardons-97380933944
It's worse than that too, 17 states have signed on with Texas in this lawsuit, mostly southern and midwestern states. I don't even know what to think about something like this, it's absolutely ridiculous.
The courts will reject it and the lawmakers can save face with their Trump supporting voters.
But they probably hope their voters don't start shooting...
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Pardon Me?
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/legally-troubled-texas-a-g-concocts-absurd-election-lawsuit-as-trump-muses-about-pardons-97380933944
It's worse than that too, 17 states have signed on with Texas in this lawsuit, mostly southern and midwestern states. I don't even know what to think about something like this, it's absolutely ridiculous.
It's pure theatre, as everyone involved knows. It's just local republicans making sure they show their Trumpist credentials for local voters.
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The downside for them is that when the courts immediately dismiss it then it might start to make their supporters wonder why they put so much effort into packing the courts with conservatives if they won't even steal the election for Trump.
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Ah, the good old days when the defeated would take the podium, congratulate his opponent, offer his support to him and the crowd would cheer
I think it's time we Make America Great Again. What do you guys think?
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Pardon Me?
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/legally-troubled-texas-a-g-concocts-absurd-election-lawsuit-as-trump-muses-about-pardons-97380933944
It's worse than that too, 17 states have signed on with Texas in this lawsuit, mostly southern and midwestern states. I don't even know what to think about something like this, it's absolutely ridiculous.
It's pure theatre, as everyone involved knows. It's just local republicans making sure they show their Trumpist credentials for local voters.
I understand the other states jumping on board once Texas filed, but the Texas AG had no reason to show support for Trump to the locals by suing the swing states to invalidate their election results. Well, I say that but he is supposed in some legal trouble and might could use some support from Trump while he is still in the White House. It still seems like a very strange move to come from an AG and something I would expect more from state legislatures instead.
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Bill Pascrell is trying to invoke the 14th amendment https://twitter.com/BillPascrell/status/1337482153752453120?s=20
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Bill Pascrell is trying to invoke the 14th amendment https://twitter.com/BillPascrell/status/1337482153752453120?s=20
Sedition is exactly what Trump and his enablers are guilty of.
Trump and Giuliani may be laughable clowns, inside and outside the courtroom, but they are traitorous clowns.
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To no one's surprise:
Supreme Court rejects Texas’ bid to overturn Joe Biden’s election, handing decisive blow to Trump
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Three more days until the electoral college votes.
I wonder if Trump will turn to the military next.
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Bill Pascrell is trying to invoke the 14th amendment https://twitter.com/BillPascrell/status/1337482153752453120?s=20
Biden should kick off his presidency by issuing a pardon to these traitors.
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Texas is threatening to secede again.
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Republicans don’t want the government to force them to wear masks or get a vaccine but they want Texas to be able to force their ways on other states. Makes no sense.
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This time just let them secede and be done with their nonsense.
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If they secede, will we have to build a wall around Texas?
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This time just let them secede and be done with their nonsense.
Then you cant say 'Walker Texas Ranger' is one of you guys. Think carefully
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This time just let them secede and be done with their nonsense.
Then you cant say 'Walker Texas Ranger' is one of you guys. Think carefully
Yeah... I'm not so sure he's one of us either way.
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Can we install Biden a month early?
I want my free shit now!
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This time just let them secede and be done with their nonsense.
Then you cant say 'Walker Texas Ranger' is one of you guys. Think carefully
Yeah... I'm not so sure he's one of us either way.
Way to crush my idol growing up :'(
Yeah, you've lost him. F him. He's gone full on cultist and whack job. Talking about the opposition as if they are 'evil' and 'socialist'. FFS he's turning into a Rudy. Should have stayed out of the frelling politics and he could be remembered as good, decent and honourable.
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The Texas GOP chairman made a statement after the SC decision and suggested for states to join Texas in making a new union of states.
https://www.texasgop.org/chairman-allen-wests-response-to-scotus-decision/
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Republicans don’t want the government to force them to wear masks or get a vaccine but they want Texas to be able to force their ways on other states. Makes no sense.
Here is what is so insane about conservative Republicans freaking out about masks.
Who is it that freaks out about women breastfeeding in public? Who exactly wants laws to make nudity in public illegal?
Who exactly wants to force people to wear stuff on their bodies?
Yeah. Going to give you one guess, and Liberals isn't it.
Republicans are all for forcing people to wear stuff to protect their sensitive snowflake selves from seeing evil human body parts, but when it comes to wearing something to protect the lives of other people?
MUH FREEDOHMS!!!!!
Selfish jerks.
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Trump is in retart mode this morning.
I WON THE ELECTION IN A LANDSLIDE, but remember, I only think in terms of legal votes, not all of the fake voters and fraud that miraculously floated in from everywhere! What a disgrace! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1337745268591259648?s=20
WE HAVE JUST BEGUN TO FIGHT!!! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1337755964339081216?s=20
Why didn’t Bill Barr reveal the truth to the public, before the Election, about Hunter Biden. Joe was lying on the debate stage that nothing was wrong, or going on - Press confirmed. Big disadvantage for Republicans at the polls! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1337772511870799872?s=20
(https://i.ibb.co/q1DQR9Y/fes1.png)
And he's back on Twitter tweeting up a storm right now.
The thing about Barr is weird. Barr is Trump's guy, Trump should ask him.
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Can we install Biden a month early?
I want my free shit now!
What free shit is that?
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Is he gonna declassify all the military secrets?
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Can we install Biden a month early?
I want my free shit now!
What free shit is that?
A trillion $$$ worth of school debt.
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Can we install Biden a month early?
I want my free shit now!
What free shit is that?
A trillion $$$ worth of school debt.
Have you noticed how crappy the American education system currently is? You guys could do with some investment in that sector 8)
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Can we install Biden a month early?
I want my free shit now!
What free shit is that?
A trillion $$$ worth of school debt.
Too late, Trump already gave it to his rich mates. You'll just have to line up at the food bank as usual.
EDIT: Just in case it wasn't obvious what I meant, the food bank is the only free shit you are going to get.
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My brother is a total maga-head. It's okay. He has a serious mental health condition though so he has an excuse.
Since the elections I've seen him post a lot of nonsense about the election being stolen on Facebook. It's died down but since this latest Supreme Court not giving him the election it seems to have flared back up again.
It's fun to watch these maga people and what they talk about. He keeps writing comments intended for Trump to hear them...
Like I said, serious mental health issues.
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My brother is a total maga-head. It's okay. He has a serious mental health condition though so he has an excuse.
Since the elections I've seen him post a lot of nonsense about the election being stolen on Facebook. It's died down but since this latest Supreme Court not giving him the election it seems to have flared back up again.
It's fun to watch these maga people and what they talk about. He keeps writing comments intended for Trump to hear them...
Like I said, serious mental health issues.
Does he have guns?
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My brother is a total maga-head. It's okay. He has a serious mental health condition though so he has an excuse.
Since the elections I've seen him post a lot of nonsense about the election being stolen on Facebook. It's died down but since this latest Supreme Court not giving him the election it seems to have flared back up again.
It's fun to watch these maga people and what they talk about. He keeps writing comments intended for Trump to hear them...
Like I said, serious mental health issues.
Does he have guns?
Yes. I'm not a gun expert but I believe it's a black powder rifle from the pioneer days. It's the sort of thing where you have to measure the powder, pack it in the barrel, load a shot and hope it does more damage to your target than you.
So if he does go on a rampage with that thing then I would respect the effort.
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My brother is a total maga-head. It's okay. He has a serious mental health condition though so he has an excuse.
Since the elections I've seen him post a lot of nonsense about the election being stolen on Facebook. It's died down but since this latest Supreme Court not giving him the election it seems to have flared back up again.
It's fun to watch these maga people and what they talk about. He keeps writing comments intended for Trump to hear them...
Like I said, serious mental health issues.
Does he have guns?
Yes. I'm not a gun expert but I believe it's a black powder rifle from the pioneer days. It's the sort of thing where you have to measure the powder, pack it in the barrel, load a shot and hope it does more damage to your target than you.
So if he does go on a rampage with that thing then I would respect the effort.
So how stable is this guy?
If I knocked on his door a 3am waving 'I LOVE BIDEN' flags and saying Trump is a dickhead, will he do the sane choice, tell me to kindly leave and close the door? Or will he go full rampage with the gun? >:D
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My brother is a total maga-head. It's okay. He has a serious mental health condition though so he has an excuse.
Since the elections I've seen him post a lot of nonsense about the election being stolen on Facebook. It's died down but since this latest Supreme Court not giving him the election it seems to have flared back up again.
It's fun to watch these maga people and what they talk about. He keeps writing comments intended for Trump to hear them...
Like I said, serious mental health issues.
Does he have guns?
Yes. I'm not a gun expert but I believe it's a black powder rifle from the pioneer days. It's the sort of thing where you have to measure the powder, pack it in the barrel, load a shot and hope it does more damage to your target than you.
So if he does go on a rampage with that thing then I would respect the effort.
So how stable is this guy?
If I knocked on his door a 3am waving 'I LOVE BIDEN' flags and saying Trump is a dickhead, will he do the sane choice, tell me to kindly leave and close the door? Or will he go full rampage with the gun? >:D
Not at all the violent sort. Not even all that aggressive. Which is why I don't challenge him on it. It would really hurt his feelings and he'd just withdraw inward more than he already does.
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I love black powder guns, they're so fun to shoot. They are a pain in the ass to clean after, though.
I think the super MAGAs are now hoping enough faithless electors will give Trump the win.
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I love black powder guns, they're so fun to shoot. They are a pain in the ass to clean after, though.
I think the super MAGAs are now hoping enough faithless electors will give Trump the win.
You are sooooo stereotypically texas, it's insane. Maybe you could marry bom tishop?
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I am Florida Woman.
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This time just let them secede and be done with their nonsense.
Then you cant say 'Walker Texas Ranger' is one of you guys. Think carefully
Yeah... I'm not so sure he's one of us either way.
Way to crush my idol growing up :'(
Yeah, you've lost him. F him. He's gone full on cultist and whack job. Talking about the opposition as if they are 'evil' and 'socialist'. FFS he's turning into a Rudy. Should have stayed out of the frelling politics and he could be remembered as good, decent and honourable.
All he said is get off your ass and vote.... What is so wrong with that? You know, besides the fact his opinion is different than yours?
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I love black powder guns, they're so fun to shoot. They are a pain in the ass to clean after, though.
I think the super MAGAs are now hoping enough faithless electors will give Trump the win.
You are sooooo stereotypically texas, it's insane. Maybe you could marry bom tishop?
I could do worse...what did she say besides she likes black powder guns, besides the fact they make a mess (which they do, I have experienced first hand. Though they fire with odd timing but a very smooth sensation. Accuracy is non existent, but the big poof of smoke is quite rewarding). Y'all sound ridiculous
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It's funny, the republican party is trying nonsense to win. Yet, for the entire presidency of Trump the Dems have tried nonsense to remove Trump. That's ok right? Of course it is if you are a hypocritical dem.
So dumb
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It's funny, the republican party is trying nonsense to win. Yet, for the entire presidency of Trump the Dems have tried nonsense to remove Trump. That's ok right? Of course it is if you are a hypocritical dem.
So dumb
Wrong. The crazy right ( distinct from the GOP ) is pushing blatant lies and misinformation to try and get a civil war going. They are pretty hopeless at organizing, but are really good, i mean REALLY good at radicalizing people who are gullible and ignorant. So much so that the GOP is scared of what the loonies could do.
By way of contrast the Dems had cast iron proof that Trump broke the law and should have been removed from office, it was only the spineless senate that stopped him getting removed.
To try and equate what the loonie right is currently trying to do with the Dems holding Trump to account for his corruption is a sign you are incapable of independant thought.
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This time just let them secede and be done with their nonsense.
Then you cant say 'Walker Texas Ranger' is one of you guys. Think carefully
Yeah... I'm not so sure he's one of us either way.
Way to crush my idol growing up :'(
Yeah, you've lost him. F him. He's gone full on cultist and whack job. Talking about the opposition as if they are 'evil' and 'socialist'. FFS he's turning into a Rudy. Should have stayed out of the frelling politics and he could be remembered as good, decent and honourable.
All he said is get off your ass and vote.... What is so wrong with that? You know, besides the fact his opinion is different than yours?
His language was ridiculous. Called the other side 'evil' and 'socialists' which is just over the top nonsense, polarising and inflammatory among other things. I have no problem with his call out to vote and mentioning statistics (30 million evangelicals stayed home during the 2008 election)
It's far better to call people out to vote on the merits of your party, it's platform, ideals and plans for the future than calling them out to vote by making them fear if the other side gets in that it will turn into some evil socialist country. It's just fear mongering rubbish. Yes fear mongering works but it does a lot of damage. Just look at the state of America and how polarised the politics and people are now. That is an indictment to the language used by your leaders and influencers.
If people want to vote republican or Trump because they believe that party represents their ideals or the kind of future they want, then more power to them. But it should be based on truth and reason. Not made up bullshit to make the 'other side' looked at as if they are 'enemies of the state' that if they were to come to power that it represents some kind of existential threat
It is language like Chucks which divides America which is rather sad. You see when George Bush or John McCain lost the elections, their language was positive and unifying and the people got behind their new President even though they were Democrat. That is how it should be done. America has gone full retard with Trumps loss. I dont know how Chuck has responded to Trumps defeat (I couldn't find anything) But I would have hoped that other republican leaders and senators etc were more mature and statesmen like as has always been the way in your history. Certainly some have called Trump out to stop his bullshit. Good on them
Still, I blame social media for a lot of the problems lol. It's funny that people like Mark Zuckerberg aren't held more to account. So if we know or believe Russians are using Facebook to stir shit up in America and spread fake BS around - why are we blaming Russia more than the people who enabled it? Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey of Twitter should be raked over the coals.
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Sometimes I wonder, do I look like that to the Republicans? A crazy guy ranting about how Republicans are the party of NAZIs and White Supremacists?
Then I remember that NAZIs took to the streets to openly 'unite the right' and praise Trump and remember that, yeah. They are.
I guess the NAZIs are going to have to 'stand down and stand by' a little longer, at least until 20204. ;D
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I think the super MAGAs are now hoping enough faithless electors will give Trump the win.
Can you imagine the meltdown if there were any faithless electors that were to vote for Biden instead of Trump.
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I think the super MAGAs are now hoping enough faithless electors will give Trump the win.
Can you imagine the meltdown if there were any faithless electors that were to vote for Biden instead of Trump.
I'm imagining all of them who should vote Trump, vote Buden, and the massive hell that would break out.
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In 2016 Trump got 3 more electoral votes than he should have because of faithless electors.
It's going to be REALLY interesting this time to see if they all vote for who they are supposed to, with all the eyes on them.
Will that make them vote the way they should, or will some decide they want to be famous and get attention?
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This time just let them secede and be done with their nonsense.
Then you cant say 'Walker Texas Ranger' is one of you guys. Think carefully
Yeah... I'm not so sure he's one of us either way.
Way to crush my idol growing up :'(
Yeah, you've lost him. F him. He's gone full on cultist and whack job. Talking about the opposition as if they are 'evil' and 'socialist'. FFS he's turning into a Rudy. Should have stayed out of the frelling politics and he could be remembered as good, decent and honourable.
All he said is get off your ass and vote.... What is so wrong with that? You know, besides the fact his opinion is different than yours?
That wasn't all he said. He said that one side (the democrats) were socialists in bed with Satan to destroy America, turn the country communist and kill Jesus.
To be clear this was the 2012 election between Obama and Romney he was talking about.
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538 electors live streaming. 0 electors with their dicks out.
Total mockery of the zoom electoral college process.
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Trump is way ahead in the EC vote right now! 56-36. It's a landslide!
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And the electors have begun voting.
"Vermont's three electors were the first to cast their votes for Biden just after 10 a.m. ET, with Tennessee following shortly after with 11 votes for President Donald Trump..."
GASP!
Trump is ahead, by a lot!
I guess it's time for Democrats to 'find' a bunch of votes for Biden.
Those bastards!
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Every state's electors is voting according to who won their states popular vote???
RIGGED!!!
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Biden just shot up by 26 votes and Trump didn't get a single one!
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Why aren't there Republican poll watchers at these events!
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Stop the voting! Stop the voting! Trump won biggly so stop the voting!
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LOOK AT MY RALLIES!
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WTF is this shit from the repugnicans? Imagine if Trump won the election and the dems said 'we don't like that result so we'll get our own guys to vote the way we like and count those instead'
I mean what would they say!?!?
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/electoral-college-voting-to-formally-make-joe-biden-the-next-us-president/live-coverage/a9ef37eb453876b5c468a75129281663
“An alternate slate of electors in the contested states is going to vote and we are going to send those results to Congress,” Mr Miller said.
“You have an alternate slate of electors in a state like, say, Wisconsin. Or in a state like Georgia. And we’ll make sure that those results are sent up side-by-side to Congress.
“We have the opportunity, every day between now and January 20, to say that slate of electors in the contested states is the slate that should be certified to uphold a free and fair election and an honest result.”
Alternative electors lol. Like the 'alternate facts?'
Dumbarses ::)
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It's a dumb stunt that doesn't mean anything. It's about as meaningful as if the flat earth society sent it's own slate of electors to congress.
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We are living in a simulation.
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OMG, Twitter is filled with people who think the fake electors' votes count.
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It's just a matter of waiting for California and Hawaii to make it official now.
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OMG, Twitter is filled with people who think the fake electors' votes count.
Well we'll just have to keep adding electors I guess.
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https://twitter.com/NVGOP/status/1338574820649254913?s=20
History made today in Carson City, Nevada, as @McDonaldNV leads our electors in casting Nevada's 6 electoral votes for the winner of Nevada, @realDonaldTrump and @Mike_Pence!
Fucking Nevada GOP making people think this is real. lol
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There it is. Just passed 270.
I wonder if Trump will concede yet.
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Let's see what Fox News is saying.
And their main stories are the vaccine and Hunter Biden.
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Holy shit! I just saw this on Trump twitter feed. He just fired Bill Barr.
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Does Trump think he will have time between Christmas and the inauguration to get Jeff Rosen to do anything?
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Probably not but I bet it sure makes him feel better.
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https://twitter.com/NVGOP/status/1338574820649254913?s=20
History made today in Carson City, Nevada, as @McDonaldNV leads our electors in casting Nevada's 6 electoral votes for the winner of Nevada, @realDonaldTrump and @Mike_Pence!
Fucking Nevada GOP making people think this is real. lol
Makes one wonder if the Senate is going to contest or certify the EC vote come January.
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Let's see what Fox News is saying.
And their main stories are the vaccine and Hunter Biden.
Always interesting editorial decisions over at Fox.
Main story still: HHS Sec'y Azar touts Pfizer COVID vaccine as nationwide rollout begins. But he also has a warning
Next: Calif. electors cast state's 55 electoral votes for Biden, putting him over the top
Third: Trump reveals AG will be leaving post 'before Christmas'
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Aha!! Finally the smoking gun!! Proof positive that the filthy Russkies hacked the election servers and stole the election for Biden.
https://apnews.com/article/technology-politics-national-security-hacking-e8a2e819f7cc6982f6a72f8c85209b72
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Holy shit! I just saw this on Trump twitter feed. He just fired Bill Barr.
Read the tweet. It was not written by Trump. It was quite pleasant and measured.
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Aha!! Finally the smoking gun!! Proof positive that the filthy Russkies hacked the election servers and stole the election for Biden.
https://apnews.com/article/technology-politics-national-security-hacking-e8a2e819f7cc6982f6a72f8c85209b72
Why would the ruskis want Biden to win? Trump was their puppet!
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My goodness...
Just hang in there for four more years Mr. Biden. I'm guessing there's a good chance that we're going to get our first female president a lot quicker than people were predicting.
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My goodness...
Just hang in there for four more years Mr. Biden. I'm guessing there's a good chance that we're going to get our first female president a lot quicker than people were predicting.
I'm sure he'll be okay. Happens to the best of us.
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I'm starting to think Biden just might win this thing.
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Aha!! Finally the smoking gun!! Proof positive that the filthy Russkies hacked the election servers and stole the election for Biden.
https://apnews.com/article/technology-politics-national-security-hacking-e8a2e819f7cc6982f6a72f8c85209b72
Why would the ruskis want Biden to win? Trump was their puppet!
Trump a puppet? Pftt!! Who do you think is behind the Burisma cover-up. Biden owes Vald and he knows it.
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Aha!! Finally the smoking gun!! Proof positive that the filthy Russkies hacked the election servers and stole the election for Biden.
https://apnews.com/article/technology-politics-national-security-hacking-e8a2e819f7cc6982f6a72f8c85209b72
Why would the ruskis want Biden to win? Trump was their puppet!
Trump a puppet? Pftt!! Who do you think is behind the Burisma cover-up. Biden owes Vald and he knows it.
So in TV terms?
Trump - Monster of the Week
Putin - the Big Bad
Biden - Greater Scope Villain
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GreaterScopeVillain
Trump would of course never be privy to Biden’s machinations or know that he was working for him all along.
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https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/donald-trump-shares-post-saying-republican-leaders-in-georgia-will-soon-be-going-to-jail/news-story/59dfd8991e19fc40a1b474f76c4ef354
ROFL
US President Donald Trump has shared a post online saying two Republican political leaders in Georgia who resisted his efforts to overturn the election result “will soon be going to jail”.
The officials in question are Georgia’s Governor Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, both of whom supported Mr Trump’s re-election, but rejected his claims about widespread voter fraud.
The pair certified Joe Biden’s victory in the state, and yesterday Georgia’s 16 presidential electors cast their votes for him in the electoral college.
The electoral college vote formalised Mr Biden’s win over Mr Trump, and prompted senior Republicans in Washington D.C. to acknowledge him as the president-elect.
“The electoral college has spoken,” Senate Leader Mitch McConnell said today.
“Our country has, officially, a president-elect and vice president-elect. I want to congratulate president-elect Joe Biden.”
I guess Mitch McConnell will be going to jail too? >:D
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https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/donald-trump-shares-post-saying-republican-leaders-in-georgia-will-soon-be-going-to-jail/news-story/59dfd8991e19fc40a1b474f76c4ef354
ROFL
US President Donald Trump has shared a post online saying two Republican political leaders in Georgia who resisted his efforts to overturn the election result “will soon be going to jail”.
The officials in question are Georgia’s Governor Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, both of whom supported Mr Trump’s re-election, but rejected his claims about widespread voter fraud.
The pair certified Joe Biden’s victory in the state, and yesterday Georgia’s 16 presidential electors cast their votes for him in the electoral college.
The electoral college vote formalised Mr Biden’s win over Mr Trump, and prompted senior Republicans in Washington D.C. to acknowledge him as the president-elect.
“The electoral college has spoken,” Senate Leader Mitch McConnell said today.
“Our country has, officially, a president-elect and vice president-elect. I want to congratulate president-elect Joe Biden.”
I guess Mitch McConnell will be going to jail too? >:D
Here is what Trump re-tweeted.
How the fuck does ANYONE ally themselves with Trump at this point? He will throw anyone and everyone under the bus.
I guess Republicans are just absolutely terrified of his voters. Cowards.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpQSiF5XcAAqbQI?format=jpg&name=small)
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Yep. Along with everyone who voted against him. So like 80 million new prisoners. That roughly doubles our average prison population so it's tough but manageable.
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I guess Republicans are just absolutely terrified of his voters. Cowards.
They know that Trump will now become the kingmaker in the GOP - they are shitting it.
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It'll be just like The Apprentice, except for a major political party in a country that outspends the rest of the world combined on its military.
What could possibly go wrong?
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https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/donald-trump-shares-post-saying-republican-leaders-in-georgia-will-soon-be-going-to-jail/news-story/59dfd8991e19fc40a1b474f76c4ef354
ROFL
US President Donald Trump has shared a post online saying two Republican political leaders in Georgia who resisted his efforts to overturn the election result “will soon be going to jail”.
The officials in question are Georgia’s Governor Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, both of whom supported Mr Trump’s re-election, but rejected his claims about widespread voter fraud.
The pair certified Joe Biden’s victory in the state, and yesterday Georgia’s 16 presidential electors cast their votes for him in the electoral college.
The electoral college vote formalised Mr Biden’s win over Mr Trump, and prompted senior Republicans in Washington D.C. to acknowledge him as the president-elect.
“The electoral college has spoken,” Senate Leader Mitch McConnell said today.
“Our country has, officially, a president-elect and vice president-elect. I want to congratulate president-elect Joe Biden.”
I guess Mitch McConnell will be going to jail too? >:D
Wow. He really is a dictator.
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Law & Crime: Ex-Police Captain Accused of Holding Man at Gunpoint Under False Belief That He Had 750,000 Fake Ballots Signed by ‘Hispanic Children’ in Van.
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/ex-police-captain-accused-of-holding-man-at-gunpoint-under-false-belief-that-he-had-750000-fake-ballots-signed-by-hispanic-children-in-van/
A true patriot! I'm certain trump will give him a full pardon and a medal of freedom!
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Law & Crime: Ex-Police Captain Accused of Holding Man at Gunpoint Under False Belief That He Had 750,000 Fake Ballots Signed by ‘Hispanic Children’ in Van.
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/ex-police-captain-accused-of-holding-man-at-gunpoint-under-false-belief-that-he-had-750000-fake-ballots-signed-by-hispanic-children-in-van/
A true patriot! I'm certain trump will give him a full pardon and a medal of freedom!
He probably would, if it was a federal crime.
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Law & Crime: Ex-Police Captain Accused of Holding Man at Gunpoint Under False Belief That He Had 750,000 Fake Ballots Signed by ‘Hispanic Children’ in Van.
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/ex-police-captain-accused-of-holding-man-at-gunpoint-under-false-belief-that-he-had-750000-fake-ballots-signed-by-hispanic-children-in-van/
A true patriot! I'm certain trump will give him a full pardon and a medal of freedom!
What possible indicator led him to believe this van driving around had '750,000 fake ballots' and 'signed by Hispanic children'
Right wing logic ::)
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Law & Crime: Ex-Police Captain Accused of Holding Man at Gunpoint Under False Belief That He Had 750,000 Fake Ballots Signed by ‘Hispanic Children’ in Van.
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/ex-police-captain-accused-of-holding-man-at-gunpoint-under-false-belief-that-he-had-750000-fake-ballots-signed-by-hispanic-children-in-van/
A true patriot! I'm certain trump will give him a full pardon and a medal of freedom!
What possible indicator led him to believe this van driving around had '750,000 fake ballots' and 'signed by Hispanic children'
Right wing logic ::)
Odds are he read that it is happening on a facebook post, saw a van with a hispanic guy, and just drew his conclusions using his years of police experience.
Ie. Hispanic + van = criminal.
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Law & Crime: Ex-Police Captain Accused of Holding Man at Gunpoint Under False Belief That He Had 750,000 Fake Ballots Signed by ‘Hispanic Children’ in Van.
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/ex-police-captain-accused-of-holding-man-at-gunpoint-under-false-belief-that-he-had-750000-fake-ballots-signed-by-hispanic-children-in-van/
A true patriot! I'm certain trump will give him a full pardon and a medal of freedom!
What possible indicator led him to believe this van driving around had '750,000 fake ballots' and 'signed by Hispanic children'
Right wing logic ::)
Odds are he read that it is happening on a facebook post, saw a van with a hispanic guy, and just drew his conclusions using his years of police experience.
Ie. Hispanic + van = criminal.
I don't know. Maybe his ethnicity didn't factor into it.
He's also an hvac tech and I know what it's like to be screwed over by incompetent techs. In fact might go so far as to say that I'm kind of in his side if he's harassing hvac techs.
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Paid $266,000 by the “Liberty Center for God & Country”, he uncovered this despicable conspiracy by looking for big vans driven by people his highly tuned prejudice told him were commie infiltrators, retrofitting the story to fit with batshit theories caused by a mental deficiency called conservatism bought on by starring too long through tear filled eyes at a stripey flag while thinking about the Alamo.
Unfortunately, by the time the incompetent local police got to the subversive’s/victim’s house, the hundreds of Hispanic children he’d used to sign the ¾ of a million fake ballots (the youths’ fingerprints would not appear in databases), had all been moved out, harvested for their Adrenochrome by a shadowy figure known only as Dr Gonzo and the bodies rendered and shipped as meat-feast topping for the Comet ping-pong pizza restaurant by the CIA.
It was a valiant attempt by a serial fuck up merchant to turn his life around and save America, but just goes to show how deeply embedded the Queen of England’s reptilian tendrils are within the US system, and how there is no point in continued struggle against the forces that have had you tagged and monitored since you were born.
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN AND BROOD MOTHER.
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GOD SAVE THE QUEEN AND BROOD MOTHER.
My name is Jimmy the Crab and I approve of this message.
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He went for the decoy van. Never underestimate those sneaky commies.
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https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/supreme-smear-lin-wood-goes-full-q-in-bonkers-tweets-telling-800000-plus-followers-that-chief-justice-roberts-called-trump-a-motherfer-on-a-phone-call/
Supreme Smear: Lin Wood Goes Full Q in Bonkers Tweets Telling 800,000-Plus Followers That Chief Justice Roberts Called Trump a ‘Motherf***er’ on a Phone Call
Just when you thought you had seen it all from various figures litigating and going off the deep end in the aftermath of the 2020 election, attorney Lin Wood told his 800,000-plus Twitter followers on Thursday that Chief Justice John Roberts said during a phone call in August that President Donald Trump is a “motherfucker” who could not be allowed to have another term.
Wood, who has the QAnon hashtag “#WWG1WGA” in his Twitter bio, prefaced his attack on Roberts and Justice Stephen Breyer by saying that “This may be most important tweet of my life.”
In the next tweet, Wood made a claim that was both risible and beyond belief. He initially claimed to have knowledge of a phone conversation from Aug. 19 wherein Roberts vowed that Trump was a “motherfucker” who would not be permitted to be reelected. Wood also bizarrely claimed that Breyer was in on the conspiracy.
“In discussing @realDonaldTrump in phone conversation in 8/19, Justice John Roberts stated that he would make sure ‘the mother f#*ker would never be re-elected,” the tweet said. “Roberts engaged in phone conversations with Justice Stephen Breyer discussing how to work to get Trump voted out.”
Wood did not elaborate and did not provide any evidence whatsoever to back up this wild claim. What he did do was preemptively attempt to discredit anyone who criticized him or questioned what he was saying. He only asserted that there is “documentation” in the hands of unspecified third parties.
There's more in the article, also you can take a scroll through Lin Wood's unhinged timeline https://twitter.com/LLinWood
The MAGAs want to impeach John Roberts now. The Qs have been reignited. lol
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For all of their bluster over the last 4 years, it seems that the Republican snowflakes are now the ones who have been triggered.
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I don't know why you can't be a repugnican supporter but still not think that Trump is utter human scum
Like, given all the hate, the racism, the intolerance, misogyny, an adulterer, rejection of science, truth, facts, the corruption, the romanticisation with being a dictator, the nepotism, the staggering number of people that died all over the country from covid, the childish and uncouth way of dealing allies and friends around the world while being so friendly and accommodating and trustful of Americas enemies, the disaster of the trade war with China and just sheer incompetence on every metric you would think repugnicans could demand better from their leaders
Instead it's Trump all the way. Not even a chatter about who could be better suited. It's like Trump is the best that repugnicans have
God damn how low a party if that's the case
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I wish we had more conservatives actively posting. I'm genuinely curious if this ad improves their opinion of Dan Crenshaw. Because to me it makes me think that Crenshaw is too stupid to hold a public office.
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I wish we had more conservatives actively posting. I'm genuinely curious if this ad improves their opinion of Dan Crenshaw. Because to me it makes me think that Crenshaw is too stupid to hold a public office.
That is a parody, right? That can't be real.
Please tell me that's fake.
But then again, someone who looks at Trump and thinks, "Well there is a fine, honest, smart, strong leader I can get behind!" will wall for that crap too I suppose.
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IT'S REAL.
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I wish we had more conservatives actively posting. I'm genuinely curious if this ad improves their opinion of Dan Crenshaw. Because to me it makes me think that Crenshaw is too stupid to hold a public office.
I think it would have been better if he just went off on an unhinged rant like Tom Cruise did on his crew. Expletive filled and terse.
Bereft of context AOC and Harris clips, guns, HALO jump, superhero landing & a power punch to antifa. Seems right in the neo-MAGA wheelhouse. I bet they looooove it!
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It's just so disturbing to see Republican's blatantly pushing for violence like this, swinging their guns around while talking about the need to fight the enemy.
They aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
Republicans are openly talking about armed rebellion.
Can someone remind them how THAT ended last time?
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It's just so disturbing to see Republican's blatantly pushing for violence like this, swinging their guns around while talking about the need to fight the enemy.
They aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
Republicans are openly talking about armed rebellion.
Can someone remind them how THAT ended last time?
Isn't "armed rebellion" another term for "treason"?
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The propaganda Trump posted a few minutes ago is insane. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340362336390004737?s=20
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What exactly does Trump think is supposed to happen with this?
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I can assure you that that clip from the UK, was not a pro Trump one.
Warning! There is a nazi reference.
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What exactly does Trump think is supposed to happen with this?
He still hasn't noticed the election is over and that he was beaten.
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What exactly does Trump think is supposed to happen with this?
He still hasn't noticed the election is over and that he was beaten.
He still hasn't figured out that people can love America and hate him.
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Relax everyone: Trump has it under control, he's going to get Sidney Powell appointed as a special counsel to investigate electoral fraud.
We can look forward to an action packed season 5, led by Q and the Kraken. Exciting times ahead.
No I'm not kidding. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/us/politics/trump-sidney-powell-voter-fraud.html
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Relax everyone: Trump has it under control, he's going to get Sidney Powell appointed as a special counsel to investigate electoral fraud.
We can look forward to an action packed season 5, led by Q and the Kraken. Exciting times ahead.
No I'm not kidding. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/us/politics/trump-sidney-powell-voter-fraud.html
Also maybe martial law. Because when the process fails to give you the win, just force them at gun point.
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https://twitter.com/RepClayHiggins/status/1340736712792821762?s=20
Rep. Clay Higgins @RepClayHiggins
If Biden is inaugurated as the 46th President of the United States on January 20th, it will mark the final hour of conspiracy to dismantle the American election process, and the first hour of conspiracy to dismantle America.
I wonder if any of our conservatives worry at all about this sort of thing being posted by Republicans? Or do you think it's just talk and nothing will happen after the inauguration?
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https://twitter.com/RepClayHiggins/status/1340736712792821762?s=20
Rep. Clay Higgins @RepClayHiggins
If Biden is inaugurated as the 46th President of the United States on January 20th, it will mark the final hour of conspiracy to dismantle the American election process, and the first hour of conspiracy to dismantle America.
I wonder if any of our conservatives worry at all about this sort of thing being posted by Republicans? Or do you think it's just talk and nothing will happen after the inauguration?
Another gun toting homophobic repugnican 3x divorced piece of shit racist hate monger who stiffed out on paying child support because he is gutter trash
A guy that resigned before he got fired from his job in law enforcement for hitting a suspect in handcuffs and lying about it trying to throw his college under the bus. Real upstanding piece of work the repugnicans have there
Perhaps he is pandering to Trump to get his old mate Jerod Prunty a pardon. Though, looking at this guys moral compass (or lack there of) I'm sure he's saying this shit for free
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https://apnews.com/article/william-barr-hunter-biden-election-047487650cd50f5a874c406aad214ce7
WASHINGTON (AP) — Breaking with President Donald Trump, outgoing Attorney General William Barr said Monday he saw no reason to appoint a special counsel to look into the president’s claims of election fraud or the tax investigation into the son of President-elect Joe Biden.
In his final press conference, Barr also undercut Trump as he reinforced the belief of federal officials that Russia was behind the cyberespionage operation targeting the U.S. government. Trump had suggested without evidence that China could be responsible.
Barr said the investigation into Hunter Biden’s financial dealings was “being handled responsibly and professionally.”
“I have not seen a reason to appoint a special counsel and I have no plan to do so before I leave,” he said.
Barr also told The Associated Press in a previous interview that he had seen no evidence of widespread voting fraud, despite Trump’s claims to the contrary. Trump has continued to push baseless claims even after the Electoral College made Biden’s victory formal Dec. 14.
I hope when this is all over Barr does all the media and tells what it was like working for Trump.
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https://apnews.com/article/william-barr-hunter-biden-election-047487650cd50f5a874c406aad214ce7
WASHINGTON (AP) — Breaking with President Donald Trump, outgoing Attorney General William Barr said Monday he saw no reason to appoint a special counsel to look into the president’s claims of election fraud or the tax investigation into the son of President-elect Joe Biden.
In his final press conference, Barr also undercut Trump as he reinforced the belief of federal officials that Russia was behind the cyberespionage operation targeting the U.S. government. Trump had suggested without evidence that China could be responsible.
Barr said the investigation into Hunter Biden’s financial dealings was “being handled responsibly and professionally.”
“I have not seen a reason to appoint a special counsel and I have no plan to do so before I leave,” he said.
Barr also told The Associated Press in a previous interview that he had seen no evidence of widespread voting fraud, despite Trump’s claims to the contrary. Trump has continued to push baseless claims even after the Electoral College made Biden’s victory formal Dec. 14.
I hope when this is all over Barr does all the media and tells what it was like working for Trump.
"Trump is a dangerous, insane idiot who I tirelessly worked hard to suck up to and kiss his ass all the way until I realized he was going to lose his second election and now I'm abandoning him as fast as I can in hopes of saving what little of my reputation I have left."
That's what he should be saying.
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I mean, I wouldn't be upset to hear him make the circuit saying "In hindsight, I wish I hadn't done several things.
But what you need to understand, is that I did those things in order to mitigate against another laundry list of other totally wacky shit he was trying to get me to go along with. Let's talk about what those things were, because it'll knock your socks off."
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My stupid lazy niece didn't vote. I filled out her ballot and mailed it in.
Did you just confess to committing a crime, I hope not.
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Pat Robertson thinks Trump lives in an alternate reality and it's time for him to move on. lol https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1341122230026178561?s=20
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I wish we had more conservatives actively posting. I'm genuinely curious if this ad improves their opinion of Dan Crenshaw. Because to me it makes me think that Crenshaw is too stupid to hold a public office.
That is a parody, right? That can't be real.
Please tell me that's fake.
But then again, someone who looks at Trump and thinks, "Well there is a fine, honest, smart, strong leader I can get behind!" will wall for that crap too I suppose.
Wow, that is embarrassing... I really don't know what to say besides that.
It's odd, the conservatives trying to be hard asses while the Dems are trying to be vaginas... I really don't know what to make of that.
Though, on another note, isn't the guy at around 1:40 with the white facial hair the fuck her right in the pussy guy from youtube years ago?
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Its clear that Trump won but the democrats stole the election. This is a classic Chicago style election fraud when the dead people rise from the graves and vote. Moreover not only Trump won but he most likely won in every stated except for may be New York. No one voted for Biden, forgetful old man who doesn't even remember what state he is in. And don't even get me started on Hunter Biden. What a disgrace to our military and to our country in general this guy is. Drug addict and a tax cheat, yet somehow scored a job that pays 84.000 a week and when Ukraine investigated, Biden threatened the prosecutor and Ukrainian government. Typical Irish father to son crooks.
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Its clear that Trump won but the democrats stole the election. This is a classic Chicago style election fraud when the dead people rise from the graves and vote. Moreover not only Trump won but he most likely won in every stated except for may be New York. No one voted for Biden, forgetful old man who doesn't even remember what state he is in. And don't even get me started on Hunter Biden. What a disgrace to our military and to our country in general this guy is. Drug addict and a tax cheat, yet somehow scored a job that pays 84.000 a week and when Ukraine investigated, Biden threatened the prosecutor and Ukrainian government. Typical Irish father to son crooks.
LOL. You lost. Man up and get over it.
The only dead people who voted were Republicans.
https://www.businessinsider.com/voter-election-fraud-pennsylvania-charge-dead-mom-vote-trump-2020-12
Nice to see your still racist and being fooled by all the lies too. Wonderful. Stay classy, Republicans. ;D
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Evidence of me being racist please?
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Evidence of me being racist please?
This.
Bonus evidence of you being a loser is Trump got fired. :)
Typical Irish father to son crooks.
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Irish are not a race dumbass. They are part of white race. Anyways regardless of what they are, history showed us that they are very political and love to alienate others from certain jobs, exchanging favors amongst each other, you disagree? Watch the movie gangs of New York
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Irish are not a race dumbass. They are part of white race. Anyways regardless of what they are, history showed us that they are very political and love to alienate others from certain jobs, exchanging favors amongst each other, you disagree? Watch the movie gangs of New York
I thought you were asking me to provide more evidence of your being a racist. I guess you decided to do it yourself.
Thanks?
Although in this case I think you're being more of a biggot, only a little racism. This time.
But considering you seem to get your ideas of what people are like from movies, maybe you're just stupid.
Probably a mix of all three.
Stay classy, stay strong. You should be getting used to losing by now, Trump has lost what, 50 lawsuits so far? I wonder if he will get to 100. Must be rough.
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Of course he lost lawsuits because the judges are onboard Biden's Socialist train. I knew that Trump would lose, he can't defeat the new world order, I never had my hopes up. I however did not get my ideas from the movie, but I strongly recommend you watch that movie to get basic idea of Irish American history and how they did business. I'm from Chicago and I know what the Irish do here, you can call it racist or bigot, but to anyone with brain and basic knowledge of things, it is reality.
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Of course he lost lawsuits because the judges are onboard Biden's Socialist train. I knew that Trump would lose, he can't defeat the new world order, I never had my hopes up. I however did not get my ideas from the movie, but I strongly recommend you watch that movie to get basic idea of Irish American history and how they did business. I'm from Chicago and I know what the Irish do here, you can call it racist or bigot, but to anyone with brain and basic knowledge of things, it is reality.
Some of the judges were appointed by Trump himself. Are you saying Trump is a bad judge of character? Is he stupid for appointing all those judges who were fooling him? What a dumbass. ;D
No, he lost because his lawsuits didn't have any evidence. Duh.
Yeah, I've seen that movie. And the Godfather and lots of others. I saw Star Wars but I'm not running around telling everyone how evil Wookies are. I've lived in Chicago too. So I know that racism and bigotry don't come from movies or where you live. They come frim within you, born of hate and fear and ignorance.
Sad.
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Remember when the irish were used as cheap, expendable labor in America? Especiallly New York?
Those were the days, eh NE?
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You guys, he used "Gangs of New York" as a source. I'm sure he is laughing every time you take the bait.
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I'm not baiting anyone and I appreciate all the input and all the replies even if you disagree with me, after all this is the point of a message board right? Anyways you don't have to watch any movies, come to Chicago go to Herold Washington library and read on Chicago politics. Read who ran all the construction industry, streets and sanitation, transportation, basically all city jobs and all high paying jobs all political all Irish, all father to son. May be they are true racists and not me since I have Eastern European last name and was never even considered for some of those jobs even thou I' more then qualified?
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I'm not baiting anyone and I appreciate all the input and all the replies even if you disagree with me, after all this is the point of a message board right? Anyways you don't have to watch any movies, come to Chicago go to Herold Washington library and read on Chicago politics. Read who ran all the construction industry, streets and sanitation, transportation, basically all city jobs and all high paying jobs all political all Irish, all father to son. May be they are true racists and not me since I have Eastern European last name and was never even considered for some of those jobs even thou I' more then qualified?
Since when is Chicago all of America?
And yeah, to SCG's point, historically all of your musings here have been based off of fictional media, whether it be books or movies, etc. The last thing you are is a credible narrator of history and fact. And if your sense of logic as evidenced in these boards is any indication as to how you reason in real life, I wouldn't hire you either regardless of your last name.
But please do carry on with your notions that Biden is a Socialist and with your non-evidence that Trump actually won, and won every State except New York. Which means he won California? That's the funniest thing I've heard all week and is proof of the fact that you are deluded in your thinking and bereft of any rationale whatsoever.
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I'm not baiting anyone and I appreciate all the input and all the replies even if you disagree with me, after all this is the point of a message board right? Anyways you don't have to watch any movies, come to Chicago go to Herold Washington library and read on Chicago politics. Read who ran all the construction industry, streets and sanitation, transportation, basically all city jobs and all high paying jobs all political all Irish, all father to son. May be they are true racists and not me since I have Eastern European last name and was never even considered for some of those jobs even thou I' more then qualified?
Having a non-american name is a big downside. Not just to the Irish but everyone.
You find that problem everywhere. Even here in Norway. If your name is hard to say, its not gonna be at the top of any interview list.
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Watching Trump destroy the GOP is somewhat satisfying... Or am I being too cruel?
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Watching Trump destroy the GOP is somewhat satisfying... Or am I being too cruel?
Personally I wish the GOP would go back to sanity. Destroying them only creates a power vaccume that Trump will fill.
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Watching Trump destroy the GOP is somewhat satisfying... Or am I being too cruel?
Normally I might think that too. Except I also thought that in 2016. Didn't quite work out as planned.
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Yeah, I don't want the GOP destroyed, I want it to represent conservatives. Just like I want the Democratic party to represent progressives. I wish there was representation for those of us who are somewhere in between.
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Yeah, I don't want the GOP destroyed, I want it to represent conservatives. Just like I want the Democratic party to represent progressives. I wish there was representation for those of us who are somewhere in between.
A party like that can never be successful. In trying to please everyone they just end up pissing everyone off instead.
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I'm not suggesting a single party that pleases everyone, I'm suggesting parties that represent people on the right, the left, and in the middle.
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Those exist, but people insist on voting only democrat or republican
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Those exist, but people insist on voting only democrat or republican
The problem is many people are one issue voters
How does a 'sensible centre' party deal with something like abortion?
Then there are the morons that shift the spectrum and believe a party under the steed of Trump IS centre (making Joe Biden a far left socialist lol)
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The media in the US only give Republicans and Democrats air time. The other parties don't have a chance.
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The media in the US only give Republicans and Democrats air time. The other parties don't have a chance.
The media can cover third parties all day and it's not going to change anything. Nothing is going to change until we fix our two party voting system.
Ranked choice voting like California has is one solution, that would make third parties instantly viable. I loved voting when I lived there, I didn't have to fell like my only choices were throwing away my vote or voting for the lesser of two evils.
I keep hoping other states will follow their lead.
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NYC is dipping their toe into the ranked choice voting pool, but apparently there is still some resistance to the idea.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/09/nyregion/ranked-choice-lawsuit-voting.html
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Maine is dabbling in ranked choice, too. NH had some people standing outside the polls trying to ask voters if they would support ranked choice for future elections. I hope that actually gains more traction. First Past the Post is problematic, and we are seeing the inevitable result of it right now in all the worst ways. But also, if people want other parties to gain any traction, it needs to start at state and local levels. We're not getting a 3rd party president any time soon, but a couple of mayors and state representatives isn't nearly as tough of a thing to achieve. That, plus making good solid policy choices while in office, would help build a grass roots movement. And ranked choice voting would be another huge victory in that effort, since people could decide "I really want this one candidate, but if they don't win, here are my fallbacks, in this order." That would at least help minimize the super-polarity.
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I'm not baiting anyone and I appreciate all the input and all the replies even if you disagree with me, after all this is the point of a message board right? Anyways you don't have to watch any movies, come to Chicago go to Herold Washington library and read on Chicago politics. Read who ran all the construction industry, streets and sanitation, transportation, basically all city jobs and all high paying jobs all political all Irish, all father to son. May be they are true racists and not me since I have Eastern European last name and was never even considered for some of those jobs even thou I' more then qualified?
Having a non-american name is a big downside. Not just to the Irish but everyone.
You find that problem everywhere. Even here in Norway. If your name is hard to say, its not gonna be at the top of any interview list.
That is very true, however Irish names are American names.
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I'm not baiting anyone and I appreciate all the input and all the replies even if you disagree with me, after all this is the point of a message board right? Anyways you don't have to watch any movies, come to Chicago go to Herold Washington library and read on Chicago politics. Read who ran all the construction industry, streets and sanitation, transportation, basically all city jobs and all high paying jobs all political all Irish, all father to son. May be they are true racists and not me since I have Eastern European last name and was never even considered for some of those jobs even thou I' more then qualified?
Having a non-american name is a big downside. Not just to the Irish but everyone.
You find that problem everywhere. Even here in Norway. If your name is hard to say, its not gonna be at the top of any interview list.
That is very true, however Irish names are American names.
Only because some irish immigrated to the colonies.
But I digress.
The Irish had other issues. During the potato famine, when thousands if Irish immigrated to America, they were basically considered cheap, disposable labor. Spit on. Looked down upon. All because there was alot of them. They were exploited for years. Not sure what stopped it.
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Hahahahahah.
https://thehill.com/homenews/531485-pennsylvania-lieutenant-governor-says-texas-counterpart-owes-him-bounty-money-after
My home state of PA is rally pulling through at the end of a shitty year.
Texas offered a million dollars to anyone who can uncover a case of voter fraud.
PA found three cases of voter fraud after Texas sued PA and forced them to investigate. Two of those were Trump supporters voting illegally.
PA is now demanding their three million dollar bounty that Texas offered for anyone who finds proof of voter fraud.
Texas is all huffy and saying nu-uh.
PA is threating to sue to get their reward.
Now then... didn't someone on this board admit to committing voter fraud? Who's going to be first to turn him in for that million bucks? :)
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Maine is dabbling in ranked choice, too. NH had some people standing outside the polls trying to ask voters if they would support ranked choice for future elections. I hope that actually gains more traction. First Past the Post is problematic, and we are seeing the inevitable result of it right now in all the worst ways. But also, if people want other parties to gain any traction, it needs to start at state and local levels. We're not getting a 3rd party president any time soon, but a couple of mayors and state representatives isn't nearly as tough of a thing to achieve. That, plus making good solid policy choices while in office, would help build a grass roots movement. And ranked choice voting would be another huge victory in that effort, since people could decide "I really want this one candidate, but if they don't win, here are my fallbacks, in this order." That would at least help minimize the super-polarity.
We have preferential voting here in Australia, plus voting is compulsory, you get fined if you don't vote. Elections are run by an independant Electoral Commission.
There are flaws in the preferential voting systems, in that you can end up with a zillion special interest groups who can direct their preferences to one or the other major parties to effect the outcome. It's not easy to manipulate but it can be done. Still light years ahead of first past the post.
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... plus voting is compulsory ...
You can stop right there, pal. We work very hard to restrict exactly who can vote, and how they should be allowed to do it. Everyone knows, when more people vote, al Qaeda wins. >:(
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... plus voting is compulsory ...
You can stop right there, pal. We work very hard to restrict exactly who can vote, and how they should be allowed to do it. Everyone knows, when more people vote, al Qaeda wins. >:(
And look who wins when people don't vote. >:(
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... plus voting is compulsory ...
You can stop right there, pal. We work very hard to restrict exactly who can vote, and how they should be allowed to do it. Everyone knows, when more people vote, al Qaeda wins. >:(
And look who wins when people don't vote. >:(
Y'all Qaeda
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... plus voting is compulsory ...
You can stop right there, pal. We work very hard to restrict exactly who can vote, and how they should be allowed to do it. Everyone knows, when more people vote, al Qaeda wins. >:(
And look who wins when people don't vote. >:(
Y'all Qaeda
Exactly. Because they hurt the right people.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1342243632833814528?s=20
Twitter is going wild with their flags, trying hard to suppress even the truth. Just shows how dangerous they are, purposely stifling free speech. Very dangerous for our Country. Does Congress know that this is how Communism starts? Cancel Culture at its worst. End Section 230!
Communism starts with Twitter flags!
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I thought that communism starts with overturning legal elections.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1342243632833814528?s=20
Twitter is going wild with their flags, trying hard to suppress even the truth. Just shows how dangerous they are, purposely stifling free speech. Very dangerous for our Country. Does Congress know that this is how Communism starts? Cancel Culture at its worst. End Section 230!
Communism starts with Twitter flags!
Yes! Flags that do not delete or obstruct the original content! But its a slippery slope. Soon it'll be a pop up. Then a spoiler tag. Then the user will be reppaced by a bot! Communism!!!
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/28/gohmert-other-republicans-sue-pence-in-last-ditch-effort-to-overturn-biden-win.html
So now Republicans are suing Mike Pence to make him pick Trump as the winner instead of BIden.
The coup attempts continue.
Poor Pence, all he wants to do is quietly ride Trumps coattails without ever openly taking his side. That's going to be hard to do now.
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The GOP is going down in flames. History will remember these sore, petty losers. The only party that trashed the ideals of democracy and tried its hand at dictatorship
What an embrassment for them
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I know you guys keep saying otherwise, but I still think Biden can win this.
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I know you guys keep saying otherwise, but I still think Biden can win this.
I see rumors on twitter that the My Pillow guy is releasing a new product called the "overthrow blanket"
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The GOP is going down in flames. History will remember these sore, petty losers. The only party that trashed the ideals of democracy and tried its hand at dictatorship
What an embrassment for them
The Dems have done the exact same thing for the last 4 years, it was just as sad as this is now. Even though I don't believe the election results, sometimes you gotta drop it.
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The GOP is going down in flames. History will remember these sore, petty losers. The only party that trashed the ideals of democracy and tried its hand at dictatorship
What an embrassment for them
The Dems have done the exact same thing for the last 4 years, it was just as sad as this is now. Even though I don't believe the election results, sometimes you gotta drop it.
I disagree. Its one thing to try and force the election result you want by invalidating it. Its another to try and remove a president of the opposite party in favor of his VP who is also the opposite party. I mean, you did know that Mike Pence would be president if Trump got removed, right?
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Perhaps the republicans would be kind enough to return the favor. Then we'd have president Harris. Who knows. She might get something accomplished other than not being trump.
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(https://i.ibb.co/WsjJw5L/fes1.jpg)
The MAGAs are threatening to boycott Walmart now.
In case the image doesn't show up https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1344355788303855617?s=20
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For the vast majority of Trump supporters I think Walmart might be the only shop in town.
It's kind of strange that the Walmart official twitter account would post that. Seems out of character.
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The explanation is that their social media person didn't realize they were still on the Walmart acct, and thought it was the personal acct.
I have more options now, but there was a time I'd have to travel more than 20 miles to find an alternative to Walmart (except grocery stores, always had a few of them nearby). Now there are Dollar General stores everywhere.
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I find it funny that a republican is complaining about low wages.
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Now there are Dollar General stores everywhere.
Dollar General. The poor person's Walmart?
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The GOP is going down in flames. History will remember these sore, petty losers. The only party that trashed the ideals of democracy and tried its hand at dictatorship
What an embrassment for them
The Dems have done the exact same thing for the last 4 years, it was just as sad as this is now. Even though I don't believe the election results, sometimes you gotta drop it.
Not even close to being true. How many law suits did the Dems file disputing the 2016 result?
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The GOP is going down in flames. History will remember these sore, petty losers. The only party that trashed the ideals of democracy and tried its hand at dictatorship
What an embrassment for them
The Dems have done the exact same thing for the last 4 years, it was just as sad as this is now. Even though I don't believe the election results, sometimes you gotta drop it.
Not even close to being true. How many law suits did the Dems file disputing the 2016 result?
"Both sides are the same" is the argument used by the side that constantly does terrible things. It's an excuse as to why they are terrible, "because everyone does it".
It's also a lie. But it helps them sleep at night.
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Now there are Dollar General stores everywhere.
Dollar General. The poor person's Walmart?
No, things are a little bit less expensive at Walmart, but Dollar General is a lot less expensive than a convenience store for things like laundry soap, shampoo, deodorant and lots of other things you might run out of. Before they started opening Dollar General stores in rural areas, you either shopped at a convenience store, or drove to town.
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I remember bitching and crying about the elections being rigged etc 4 year ago.
...it was trumo tho, because he lost the popular vote. Never seen the dems do it.
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LOL.
https://politizoom.com/2020/12/30/trump-crows-about-being-named-africa-world-man-of-the-year/
Trump is still butthurt that he lost out on Man of the Year to a girl, and then to Biden.
So he's bragging about all the things he's winning now... well lying about them but what else is new.
My God, he's such a disgrace and so easily manipulated. It is just mind boggling anyone can look at him and feel pride that he's the leader of our country. For 20 more days at least.
Hey! Maybe you Flat Earthers can name him Flat Earth Man of the Year, and then he will tweet about you to his 30 million followers. Only have 20 days left to do it though, but I'm sure it would only take 5 minutes to make a MS Paint 'award' and post it somewhere. You just have to tweet him about it first. ;D
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Yeah but honestly, it would have made sense if trump was 'men of the year'. They mostly didn't choose him out of spite.
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It's a fairly consistent pattern. They usually name the new president as the man of the year.
This year is sort of the exception naming both Harris and Biden. Seems like a violation of the rule. Unless sometime in the future bidens body is critically injured and they have to amputate his head and graft it onto Harris's body like that Halloween episode of the Simpsons.
Such incidents are rare in the presidency though.
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They should have given it to President Pelosi!
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html
Not sure if there's a non paywalled version of this. This is a recording of Trump pressuring the GOP in Georgia to declare Trump the winner of that state.
It's Trump's standard misinformation. But it's interesting that this goes on so much that someone just recorded it and released it. I guess this is how Trump spends all his spare time now.
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Here's an archive of that article https://archive.is/Tr6tM and you can listen to 4 minutes of the phone call here https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1345814756280700929?s=20
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Here's a YT version. Kinda chilling:
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The full hour long recording. I don't know if I can stand to listen to him go on and on about all the rumors he's heard.
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Trump trying to commit electoral fraud ::) so much for the party of 'law and order' ::)
Nothing about the Trump administration has been about law or been orderly.
People still believe this POS represents Americas best hope for a bright future?
Any repugnican worth their salt would demand Trump be arrested. If you don't like the Dems, that's cool. Insist on Pence then. But empowering Trump is enabling him. And all his fascist, white supremist, hate filled, criminal, authoritarian dictatorship aspirations. He is the worst president. The most corrupt president and he is taking America down the shitter with him
To hell with him
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The full hour long recording. I don't know if I can stand to listen to him go on and on about all the rumors he's heard.
I don't know either. The 4 minute excerpt was almost too much to handle.
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The full hour long recording. I don't know if I can stand to listen to him go on and on about all the rumors he's heard.
I don't know either. The 4 minute excerpt was almost too much to handle.
Nine minutes ten seconds in and so far no one but Trump (other than the very beginning of the call) has said a word. He's now talking about dead people voting. Five thousand dead voters!
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Trump has caused me to loose faith in anyone who has voted for him, and the entire GOP party. I didn't have a lot to begin with after how they treated Obama, but now... anyone who is a Trump supporter is just demonstrating ignorance and a desire to be ruled by a tyrant.
How anyone can throw their support behind that man-child is beyond me.
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I find it incredible that Trump is trying doing the exact thing he accuses the Democrats of doing and seems unaware of the hypocrisy.
He's having some kind of a mental breakdown.
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Other people are talking now.
Trump said 5,000 dead voters, turns out there were only 2. They've been asking Trump's team (or whatever) for all the data on the dead voters, and the phony ballots, etc etc, but they haven't given them any data. Trump changed the subject to stuffed ballot boxes, now he's saying she stuffed the machines.
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The full hour long recording. I don't know if I can stand to listen to him go on and on about all the rumors he's heard.
I don't know either. The 4 minute excerpt was almost too much to handle.
Nine minutes ten seconds in and so far no one but Trump (other than the very beginning of the call) has said a word. He's now talking about dead people voting. Five thousand dead voters!
In my work I've had to take calls from conspiracy nutter morons. Sometimes I'd put the phone down, get on with my work, pick it up 20 minutes later and they're still running their mouth.
Trump is the same as those losers. And America elected him as their president. Many still want an idiot like that for their president. ::)
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I listened to the whole thing. The whole hour of Trump ranting and barely letting the other people speak. I'm sure his fans will think he was great!
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He's a strong alpha male who dominates every conversation!
Swoon.
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I listened to the whole thing. The whole hour of Trump ranting and barely letting the other people speak. I'm sure his fans will think he was great!
Your perserverence is truly commendable
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15 minutes in. I should be terrified but instead I feel embarrassed for the Republican party. It would be less humiliating for Trump if he uploaded an hour of him fisting himself to pornhub.
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The full hour long recording. I don't know if I can stand to listen to him go on and on about all the rumors he's heard.
I don't know either. The 4 minute excerpt was almost too much to handle.
Nine minutes ten seconds in and so far no one but Trump (other than the very beginning of the call) has said a word. He's now talking about dead people voting. Five thousand dead voters!
In my work I've had to take calls from conspiracy nutter morons. Sometimes I'd put the phone down, get on with my work, pick it up 20 minutes later and they're still running their mouth.
Trump is the same as those losers. And America elected him as their president. Many still want an idiot like that for their president. ::)
Apparently about 70 some odd million of them. Frightening.
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He just repeated all the same stuff they've been saying since the election. All the conspiracy stuff, the shredded ballots, the ballots under the table, putting the same ballots through the machine more than once. I think all that has been addressed in the courts, and they didn't have any evidence.
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Just listened to the whole thing. What isn't obvious in the 4 minute recording is just how many times Trump reiterated that he won the state by half a million votes but he'll be generous and let them find the 12k he needs to officially win.
The other thing was repeating a not very subtle threat to crash the special elections this Tuesday. His rally on Monday might be very interesting.
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A standard dull interview about that call except for the last question. He asks him if he would vote for Trump again. He says sure! I mean yeah he did try to extort me into destroying democracy but he's still better than a democrat(paraphrasing a little).
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https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html
For those who prefer to read it.
My god, that man just repeats the same thing for like an hour.
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So what are we going to do here, folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break. You know, we have that in spades already. Or we can keep it going, but that’s not fair to the voters of Georgia because they’re going to see what happened, and they’re going to see what happened. I mean, I’ll, I’ll take on anybody you want with regard to [name] and her lovely daughter, a very lovely young lady, I’m sure. But, but [name] . . . I will take on anybody you want. And the minimum, there were 18,000 ballots, but they used them three times. So that’s, you know, a lot of votes. And they were all to Biden, by the way, that’s the other thing we didn’t say. You know, [name] , the one thing I forgot to say, which was the most important. You know that every single ballot she did went to Biden. You know that, right? Do you know that, by the way, Brad?
Yeah, I was just going to say reading the transcript is somehow worse than listening to him speak. I didn't notice him perving on the lovely young lady when I listened.
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I totally missed, "I mean, I’ll, I’ll take on anybody you want with regard to [name] and her lovely daughter, a very lovely young lady, I’m sure."
Her lovely daughter??? WTF?
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I totally missed, "I mean, I’ll, I’ll take on anybody you want with regard to [name] and her lovely daughter, a very lovely young lady, I’m sure."
Her lovely daughter??? WTF?
1. How does he even know she has a daughter?
2. How old is she?....
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I totally missed, "I mean, I’ll, I’ll take on anybody you want with regard to [name] and her lovely daughter, a very lovely young lady, I’m sure."
Her lovely daughter??? WTF?
1. How does he even know she has a daughter?
2. How old is she?....
I think it's in reference to the boxes of ballots "hidden under the tables" gambit:
"We had at least 18,000 — that’s on tape, we had them counted very painstakingly — 18,000 voters having to do with [name]. She’s a vote scammer, a professional vote scammer and hustler [name].
That was the [Fulton County] tape that’s been shown all over the world that makes everybody look bad, you, me and everybody else.
Where they got — number one they said very clearly and it’s been reported that they said there was a major water main break. Everybody fled the area.
And then they came back, [name] and her daughter and a few people.
There were no Republican poll watchers."
But yeah, creepy at best.
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I totally missed, "I mean, I’ll, I’ll take on anybody you want with regard to [name] and her lovely daughter, a very lovely young lady, I’m sure."
Her lovely daughter??? WTF?
1. How does he even know she has a daughter?
2. How old is she?....
I think it's in reference to the boxes of ballots "hidden under the tables" gambit:
"We had at least 18,000 — that’s on tape, we had them counted very painstakingly — 18,000 voters having to do with [name]. She’s a vote scammer, a professional vote scammer and hustler [name].
That was the [Fulton County] tape that’s been shown all over the world that makes everybody look bad, you, me and everybody else.
Where they got — number one they said very clearly and it’s been reported that they said there was a major water main break. Everybody fled the area.
And then they came back, [name] and her daughter and a few people.
There were no Republican poll watchers."
But yeah, creepy at best.
I didn't realize they released names and parentage of the people on tape. Or that Trump knew. Not impossible but... Yeah, creepy.
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Also, who the hell is Ruby Freeman? I can't keep up with all the conspiracy theories.
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I totally missed, "I mean, I’ll, I’ll take on anybody you want with regard to [name] and her lovely daughter, a very lovely young lady, I’m sure."
Her lovely daughter??? WTF?
1. How does he even know she has a daughter?
2. How old is she?....
I think it's in reference to the boxes of ballots "hidden under the tables" gambit:
"We had at least 18,000 — that’s on tape, we had them counted very painstakingly — 18,000 voters having to do with [name]. She’s a vote scammer, a professional vote scammer and hustler [name].
That was the [Fulton County] tape that’s been shown all over the world that makes everybody look bad, you, me and everybody else.
Where they got — number one they said very clearly and it’s been reported that they said there was a major water main break. Everybody fled the area.
And then they came back, [name] and her daughter and a few people.
There were no Republican poll watchers."
But yeah, creepy at best.
I didn't realize they released names and parentage of the people on tape. Or that Trump knew. Not impossible but... Yeah, creepy.
Yeah, I've never seen anything like, "So and so by name re-entered the building with her daughter, who happens to be lovely, easy on the eyes, as it were, and started recounting ballots..."
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Georgia Secretary of State office had a press conference about "the call".
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A very exasperated secretary of state discusses Trump's fantasies.
Some people are demanding that they impeach him again. But how do you impeach a president for having a perfect phone call!
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A very exasperated secretary of state discusses Trump's fantasies.
Some people are demanding that they impeach him again. But how do you impeach a president for having a perfect phone call!
There's no point in impeaching him again. He'll be gone before the process could even start.
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A very exasperated secretary of state discusses Trump's fantasies.
Some people are demanding that they impeach him again. But how do you impeach a president for having a perfect phone call!
There's no point in impeaching him again. He'll be gone before the process could even start.
I've been thinking about this today, and while in a practical sense you are right, it sets a bad example for future terrible presidents to feel entitled to do even worse things because "why not, they don't have time to impeach me." So I'm kind of torn on this.
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Or, they could wait until Jan 21 to file criminal charges against private citizen Trump, although they may have to wait in line.
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A very exasperated secretary of state discusses Trump's fantasies.
Some people are demanding that they impeach him again. But how do you impeach a president for having a perfect phone call!
There's no point in impeaching him again. He'll be gone before the process could even start.
Probably. But there's a danger in doing nothing. He's shifting the Overton Window on the subject of ignoring elections. Impeachment or maybe just a censure might help to remedy that.
It would also be really funny to impeach him twice in one term.
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Impeachment or maybe just a censure might help to remedy that.
It would also be really funny to impeach him twice in one term.
There's already a house motion to censure Trump, and a request from the House for the FBI to investigate, the GA authorities are also investigating. Since he broke both Federal and State laws, I bet he gets hit with both Federal and State charges.
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This should be interesting, in an omgwtf kind of way. https://twitter.com/rollcall/status/1346473050078777356?s=20
NEW: Iowa Sen. Charles E. Grassley, the Senate president pro tempore, says he and not Vice President Mike Pence will preside over the certification of Electoral College votes, since "we don't expect him to be there."
Grassley said he will listen to debate and that "it would be really wrong for me to say I have my mind made up."
Thirty minutes later and... whew https://twitter.com/rollcall/status/1346480140100911108?s=20
Grassley's office clarifies that he was meaning to explain what would happen if Pence had to step away during Wednesday's proceedings to count Electoral College votes. "Every indication we have is that the vice president will be there," Grassley's office said.
The next few days are going to be interesting. lol
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The next few days are going to be interesting. lol
Isn't that supposed to be an ancient Chinese curse or something?
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Oh no, I've doomed us all.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346488314157797389?s=20
The Vice President has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors.
Now #stopthesqueal is trending. lol
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About as much power as Steve Harvey has to decide who won the Oscar.
I would love to see it play out. Pence opens the envelope and sheepishly declares Trump the winner. When asked to see the actual ballots it's a bunch of sheets of paper with the word "Trump" written with a sharpie, occasionally misspelled.
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The last time I checked, the sedition caucus now stands at 140 representatives and 12 senators.
Suppose this becomes the norm. Then whoever has the majority in congress gets to pick the president. I think that's how a prime minister is chosen. Maybe there's an argument for that. Seems to me that this makes a pretty strong case for just getting rid of the electoral college and using a popular vote. Less shenanagins.
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The last time I checked, the sedition caucus now stands at 140 representatives and 12 senators.
Suppose this becomes the norm. Then whoever has the majority in congress gets to pick the president. I think that's how a prime minister is chosen. Maybe there's an argument for that. Seems to me that this makes a pretty strong case for just getting rid of the electoral college and using a popular vote. Less shenanagins.
Round up the ring leaders and have them shot for treason. The rest of the corrupt cowards only going along with it because they're too worried about their own re-election can be let off with prison terms.
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If Pence has the power to stop Biden from being inaugurated on Jan 20th, we will have President Pelosi.
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The last time I checked, the sedition caucus now stands at 140 representatives and 12 senators.
Suppose this becomes the norm. Then whoever has the majority in congress gets to pick the president. I think that's how a prime minister is chosen. Maybe there's an argument for that. Seems to me that this makes a pretty strong case for just getting rid of the electoral college and using a popular vote. Less shenanagins.
Same in Australia, the prime minister is elected by the parlimentary party, which has the majority in the House of Reps. The head of state in Australia is still the Queen of England. If we ever become a republic then we will have to decide how to elect the President.
Meanwhile back in the USA, I see Tom Cotton has done the calculation and decided that the Sedition Caucus is going to lose support in the future.
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Georgia polls are closed and the results are starting to come in. So far, it's not looking good for the Repubs.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/05/us/georgia-elections
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I seriously doubt that lead will hold. I'm expecting it to flip to the republicans pretty strongly and then getting closer and closer over the next day or so. But maybe I'll be surprised.
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Probably depends on when they count the fraudulent mail-in and absentee ballots.
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Perhaps ruby freeman is working overtime.
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I can't remember, but I thought Georgia's thing was that they start counting mail-ins first. If so, I wouldn't be surprised if it starts to shift red as the night wears on.
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In November it was in person first then mail in which is why it was so lopsided in Trump's favor on election night. I don't know if they've changed that this time.
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According to the NYT https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/05/us/elections/forecast-georgia-senate-runoff.html
Republicans have taken a narrow lead in the tabulated vote, but the Democrats are clear favorites in both races. The overwhelming majority of remaining votes are in the Atlanta metro area, and while the race remains competitive, there's no indication that the Republicans are poised to outperform expectations. The big Democratic vote left: the DeKalb County early vote. We expect these 170,000 votes to break for Ossoff by an 85-15 margin.
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In November it was in person first then mail in which is why it was so lopsided in Trump's favor on election night. I don't know if they've changed that this time.
I'm not sure about the order that votes are counted, but they changed it so they could at least process the ballots (open the envelopes, verify signatures, etc.) beforehand so that they can get to the counting tonight.
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Looks like the Dems are going to control the Senate.... I bet Mitch will be pissed.
Before you ask.. Majority of outstanding votes are metro Atlanta.
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Mitch would probably be more excited to not be in charge in the Senate, it makes his job so much easier. He gets to bitch and moan about all the awful socialist and communist policies the Dems are trying to push, but he doesn't actually have to try to block popular things like the $2k stimulus checks anymore. Best of both worlds, this will ensure he and the Republicans can raise infinite money for the election in 2 years to get control of the House again.
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It looks like the democrats are on track to win this one.
We're totally fucked! We're all going to be forced to drink lattes everyday!
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Mitch would probably be more excited to not be in charge in the Senate, it makes his job so much easier. He gets to bitch and moan about all the awful socialist and communist policies the Dems are trying to push, but he doesn't actually have to try to block popular things like the $2k stimulus checks anymore. Best of both worlds, this will ensure he and the Republicans can raise infinite money for the election in 2 years to get control of the House again.
Best situation to be in really. It's way easier to be the critic than to be the guy who actually makes something.
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Mitch would probably be more excited to not be in charge in the Senate, it makes his job so much easier. He gets to bitch and moan about all the awful socialist and communist policies the Dems are trying to push, but he doesn't actually have to try to block popular things like the $2k stimulus checks anymore. Best of both worlds, this will ensure he and the Republicans can raise infinite money for the election in 2 years to get control of the House again.
Best situation to be in really. It's way easier to be the critic than to be the guy who actually makes something.
Mitch has 2 years where the Republicans had full control of the Government.
All he managed was to pass a massive tax cut for the rich, which I guess is all he really cared about.
Couldn't even repeal Obamacare, which every Republican swore up and down they would do if just given the chance.
I have to say I'm surprised by the results and am still waiting for the result to flip back. Georgia is such a red state I was sure there was no way a Democrat could win. Guess Trump actually managed to carry through on a promise... to wreck the special election for the GOP.
Cue Trump blaming everyone else for his failure, again. What a loser.
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Mitch would probably be more excited to not be in charge in the Senate, it makes his job so much easier. He gets to bitch and moan about all the awful socialist and communist policies the Dems are trying to push, but he doesn't actually have to try to block popular things like the $2k stimulus checks anymore. Best of both worlds, this will ensure he and the Republicans can raise infinite money for the election in 2 years to get control of the House again.
Best situation to be in really. It's way easier to be the critic than to be the guy who actually makes something.
Mitch has 2 years where the Republicans had full control of the Government.
All he managed was to pass a massive tax cut for the rich, which I guess is all he really cared about.
Couldn't even repeal Obamacare, which every Republican swore up and down they would do if just given the chance.
I have to say I'm surprised by the results and am still waiting for the result to flip back. Georgia is such a red state I was sure there was no way a Democrat could win. Guess Trump actually managed to carry through on a promise... to wreck the special election for the GOP.
Cue Trump blaming everyone else for his failure, again. What a loser.
Finally, a progressive, dignified and intelligible government that can get shit done without stupid opposition blocking for blocking sake.
Normally I would think a government that can just 'rubber stamp' legislation is a bad thing but Mitch is a piece of shit who just blocks things if they are blue and passes whatever if its red. No thought or care. So F him and his repugnican spineless loser senators
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Mitch would probably be more excited to not be in charge in the Senate, it makes his job so much easier. He gets to bitch and moan about all the awful socialist and communist policies the Dems are trying to push, but he doesn't actually have to try to block popular things like the $2k stimulus checks anymore. Best of both worlds, this will ensure he and the Republicans can raise infinite money for the election in 2 years to get control of the House again.
Best situation to be in really. It's way easier to be the critic than to be the guy who actually makes something.
Mitch has 2 years where the Republicans had full control of the Government.
All he managed was to pass a massive tax cut for the rich, which I guess is all he really cared about.
Couldn't even repeal Obamacare, which every Republican swore up and down they would do if just given the chance.
I have to say I'm surprised by the results and am still waiting for the result to flip back. Georgia is such a red state I was sure there was no way a Democrat could win. Guess Trump actually managed to carry through on a promise... to wreck the special election for the GOP.
Cue Trump blaming everyone else for his failure, again. What a loser.
Finally, a progressive, dignified and intelligible government that can get shit done without stupid opposition blocking for blocking sake.
Normally I would think a government that can just 'rubber stamp' legislation is a bad thing but Mitch is a piece of shit who just blocks things if they are blue and passes whatever if its red. No thought or care. So F him and his repugnican spineless loser senators
It's worse than that. He blocks EVERYTHING if he thinks it might make a Democrat look good.
Obamacare was a Republican idea after all, it was THEIR plan, and the GOP acts like it's some kind of extreme liberal takeover.
IT WAS THEIR IDEA.
If Mitch has the power, he will simply block everything for the next 4 years. Period.
He's a big pile of human garbage.
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Well the chances if you take the absentee ballots into consideration (that heavily lean towards democratic voters) is that it's a snowflakes chance in hell for the repuglicans to win it. Not impossible, just improbable
Mr Perdue couldn't even attend the rally because he may have covid
Trump is also an idiot for demoralising his supporters before an election essentially telling them voting is a waste of time. Mitch is stupid for denying the $2000 payment when the dems said if they get control they will get everyone the $2000. When you put sugar on the table they will come
When the repugs lose, they only have themselves to blame. They have been the authors of their own shit show all year. Now it's coming back to bite them on the arse
If Mitch wasn't being a smug dick and Trump handled his loss with dignity, there's every reason to believe the repugnicans would still have the Senate.
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Wondering how many times they're going to need to audit/recount this election. Also, if the senate is 50-50 (well, technically 50-48-2), then who will be the majority leader?
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I think that by just having Harris as vp that makes Schumer the majority leader.
Trump is also an idiot for demoralising his supporters before an election essentially telling them voting is a waste of time.
Trump is a national hero! In 4 years he's single handedly wrecked the republican party and put the non insane party in control of Washington. I think Biden should give him a medal of freedom for his work in getting Georgia to turn blue.
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Oh look. A bonus rally. Trump is now at the "Save America" march in Washington. Still crying about the election even hours before congress is going to certify it.
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Biden just picked Merrick Garland to be his attorney general. I love it.
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Biden just picked Merrick Garland to be his attorney general. I love it.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/06/biden-to-tap-merrick-garland-for-attorney-general-455410
In 2016, President Barack Obama nominated Garland to serve on the Supreme Court, but his nomination languished in the GOP-controlled Senate at the end of the former president’s term. In recent weeks, Garland has been recusing himself from cases involving the federal government, fueling speculation that he was a leading candidate for the job.
Nice 8)
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I am really enjoying Trump repeatedly referring to members of his own party as "stupid people".
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I am really enjoying Trump repeatedly referring to members of his own party as "stupid people".
Well it's not often he's not wrong but he's not wrong :D
He only needs to recognise that he is the King of stupid though now
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https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1346878421616500737?s=20
Josh Wingrove is a White House reporter for Bloomberg. He tweeted this a few minutes ago.
. @VP Pence has issued a letter to Congress, basically saying he won't do what Trump is asking.
"I do not believe that the Founders of our country intended to invest the Vice President with unilateral authority to decide which electoral voters should be counted," he writes.
"It is my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the Constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not."
"I want to assure the American people that I will keep the oath I made to them and I will keep the oath I made to Almighty God."
He says he has no objections to lawmakers exercising their powers to object and trigger a debate over certain states.
"I will do my duty to see to it that we open the certificates of electors of the several states, we hear objections raised by Senators and Representatives, and we count the votes of the Electoral College... in a manner consistent with our Constitution, laws and history."
"Given the voting irregularities that took place... and the disregard of state election states by some officials, I welcome the efforts of Senate and House members who have stepped forward to use their authority under the law to raise objections and present evidence."
"As presiding officer, I will ensure that any objections that are sponsored by both a Representative and a Senator are given proper consideration, and that all facts supporting those objections are brought before the Congress and the American people."
At the end of the tweet thread he posted images of the letter (it's too small for me to read, lol) https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1346880798780223491?s=20
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The magaheads in dc are getting pretty rowdy. This could get ugly.
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On Pence
"Given the voting irregularities that took place... and the disregard of state election states by some officials, I welcome the efforts of Senate and House members who have stepped forward to use their authority under the law to raise objections and present evidence."
Looks like he's another conspiracy nutter that believes the election was stolen. There has been no evidence of voting irregularities unless voting Democrat constitutes an irregularity ::) The baseless claims have been tried and tested in the courts and the courts threw them all out. States have recounted and certified, the EC has met and voted so what exactly are these people playing at now apart from showing us all what sore losers they are?
Pence cant do shit except read out the results. It's a 'ceremonial' task he has now made clear he will begrudgingly do because he knows he has no power to do anything except read
Trump claiming Pence can still pick and choose which ones he can dismiss shows how little Trump is engaged in Americas own constitution and politics. What a dumbarse
Fast forward us to the 21st when all this mess is done and dusted. Provided the repugs dont get triggered, lose their shit and try for a civil war. Proud Boys are standing by ??? :-\
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Pence just didn't want to make daddy Trump mad. He's going to do his job just as the Constitution says.
Also, Mitch defending the electoral college https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1346890264628113411?s=20
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Proud Boys are standing by ??? :-\
I’m not sure they are standing by anymore.
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I'm hearing that Pence has been evacuated for his safety.
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The footage on CBSN appears to show protestors all over the place. They aren't supposed to be on the stairs at the Capitol building and they definitely appeared to have been, and it sounds like some might have gotten in? It's all being reported real time, so it's hard to say.
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OMG they are showing footage of protestors in the Capitol building now, that's wild
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Pence just didn't want to make daddy Trump mad. He's going to do his job just as the Constitution says.
Pence needs to grow a pair. America needs voices of reason. Not flippant baseless conspiracies touted as fact
Listening to some quotes from Trumps rallies and he's really doing his hardest to rile up people to violence. He knows once he loses the immunity of the office he's f'ed. I'm sure he'd love it for a 'civil war' of sorts to be fought under his name. What an arse
His failure to accept a pretty obvious defeat with graciousness and dignity ensures that America remains divided and polarised for many years to come. Worst president ever and a low life garbage POS
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(https://i.ibb.co/x7SRtmV/Screen-Shot-2021-01-06-at-2-33-24-PM.png)
Weird.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346900434540240897?s=20
Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!
U mad?
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It appears that Maga lunatics have stormed congress. Ballot counts are temporarily paused.
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We are witnessing the real Trump derangement syndrome right now.
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I wonder if law enforcement is just withdrawing to avoid a conflict or if they're completely incompetent.
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But but but.... I thought repugnicans would never riot!?!?!? That only the dems, antifa, BLM etc do that. Repugs were the party of law and order!!!
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346904110969315332?s=20
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!
Someone must have just told him a police officer was attacked.
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Shots have been fired!
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This is fucking unreal.
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This is fucking unreal.
People in the chamber are advised to put on their gas masks from under their seats. Shits about to hit the fan
My condolences America. You were for a time the leaders of a free world bestowing upon us the virtues of democracy and free and fair elections.
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Someone busted a window on the Capitol Building to get in, holy fuck, this is very surreal
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Mrs. boydster, moments ago: "Weird how they aren't going all 'shock and awe' with the rubber bullets and tear gas, isn't it?"
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https://twitter.com/byaaroncdavis/status/1346908166030766080?s=20
BREAKING: A source tells me The Defense Department has just denied a request by DC officials to deploy the National Guard to the US Capitol.
Quick, tell them Trump wants a photo op with a bible!
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Graphic video https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1346910454665203722?s=20
Getty Images News has good pics from inside https://twitter.com/GettyImagesNews
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This shit is nuts.
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Sooner than expected. I thought they'd wait til Jan 20 so Trump couldn't be made to "stop" them and Biden was the one who had to. Guess they couldn't wait.
So... Civil fucking war 2. I wonder if they can do a quick impeachment just to ensure he doesn't try a coupe while being in command of the military for the next 14 ish days.
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Sooner than expected. I thought they'd wait til Jan 20 so Trump couldn't be made to "stop" them and Biden was the one who had to. Guess they couldn't wait.
So... Civil fucking war 2. I wonder if they can do a quick impeachment just to ensure he doesn't try a coupe while being in command of the military for the next 14 ish days.
Perhaps there's more than a few repugnican senators disenfranchised and disgusted at Trump now to pull it off
They may also not want to be on the 'wrong side' of history
Trump should be charged with insurrection and incitement to violence. Words can't express what a low life scumbag he is.
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I'm hearing that multiple statehouses are bracing for similar protests. Hopefully their law enforcement has their shit together.
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https://www.wnd.com/2021/01/time-georgia-jiujitsu/
I believe political jiujitsu is what Georgians must use to assure that Democrats don't win the trifecta of the White House, House and the Senate, and thus have a monopoly on everything they want and desire. In other words, Georgians need to assure the incumbent Republican senators, Perdue and Loeffler, are reelected so that they can leverage the Senate majority against a Washington Democrat stronghold.
Sucked in Chuck! 8) They lost!
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I'm hearing that multiple statehouses are bracing for similar protests. Hopefully their law enforcement has their shit together.
I think it's already happening at Georgia's capitol. They are probably ready.
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I wonder what the inauguration is going to look like? Maybe a token ceremony in the secure bunker. No visitors
At least Trump can then say his crowd size was bigger ::)
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(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSz8MgasYlitYIqVBlXjEEq-JjYtvbElWOp9Q&usqp=CAU)
So you had this when BLM protested
What was organised in preparation for this coup/insurrection?
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Lol the cops are taking selfies with the people inside and opening up the barriers, it's so obviously staged it is hilarious.
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But but but.... I thought repugnicans would never riot!?!?!? That only the dems, antifa, BLM etc do that. Repugs were the party of law and order!!!
Where is Tom Bishop and the other Repugs to condemn this lawless rioting?
I thought they all hated rioting and were all for the police bashing heads and lethal force to maintain their valued Law and Order?
I guess laws only apply to OTHER people.
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Well we've heard Biden speak. Where the fuck is trump? Hiding in his bunker?
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Well we've heard Biden speak. Where the fuck is trump? Hiding in his bunker?
Trump spoke right before the violence.
He literally told them "March on the captial building"
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-supporters-storm-us-capitol_n_5ff60cc7c5b6ef6b1582ac9c
The chaos began on Wednesday soon after Trump spoke to a crowd on the National Mall. At the end of a rambling speech, the president urged his supporters to march on the Capitol building.
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You guys have gone all banana republic on us.
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Well we've heard Biden speak. Where the fuck is trump? Hiding in his bunker?
He spoke, didn't pay much attention to what he said, he quoted Lincoln I believe and acted super sad. Trump is just not reacting at all. He tweeted something earlier in the effect of "be peaceful" but didn't tell them to leave.
The question is, who staged this and who knew about it?
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Okay. Trump just appeared. He reminds the insurrectionists that even though the election was stolen they should go home.
Fucking disgraceful.
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Trump lobbed a Molotov cocktail onto the dumpster fire with his statement. Predictable, detestable, and really really disheartening.
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Trump is saying just enough to incite the violence but then weasel wording it later to shrug off the responsibility for the bloodshed later on. So transparent....
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Coup attempt.
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Coup attempt.
It's not an attempt, it's a success.
They literally stopped government. They may not hold the senate chambers but they are literally in offices that they should not be in. They have unrestricted acccess to any files or papers, some of which may be classified, in those offices. If I were an enemy nation, I'd have a dozen spies there right now.
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Liberal protesters lawfully protesting but in the way of Trumps photo op? That's a tear gassing and beating.
Armed Trumpers illegibly storming the capital building? Yeah, let them in. Wouldn't want to damage the delicate snowflakes.
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Coup attempt.
It's not an attempt, it's a success.
They literally stopped government. They may not hold the senate chambers but they are literally in offices that they should not be in. They have unrestricted acccess to any files or papers, some of which may be classified, in those offices. If I were an enemy nation, I'd have a dozen spies there right now.
I'm sure they have...
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There is a picture of Pelosi’s computer unlocked. Left in a hurry.
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There is a picture of Pelosi’s computer unlocked. Left in a hurry.
Yeah.
I hope every single one of those selfie takers go to jail.
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If this is someone's idea of making America great, then I think I'd rather have America mediocre.
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Some formal process being postponed is not a successful coup. It's not even a real coup attempt. Well, to some of those in there I'm sure it was real but this won't do anything. The question is who staged it.
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Meh... storm in a teacup, at the end of the day they will have acheived nothing.
I'm curious as to whether there will be consequences for the likes of Cruz and Hawley?
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Meh... storm in a teacup, at the end of the day they will have acheived nothing.
I'm curious as to whether there will be consequences for the likes of Cruz and Hawley?
https://indica.medium.com/i-lived-through-a-coup-america-is-having-one-now-437934b1dac3
Not dissimilar from what is happening now.
You may think its silly but a bunch of mostly unarmed people, walked into the capitol building, stopped government, made the senators all evacuate or hide, took selfies in high ranking senator offices (possibly with unlocked computers) and only one person may have died.
This is like walking into a bank, going into the safe, taking a bag of money, and walking out. Pausing briefly to take a selfie with the bank guard.
It breaks the illusion that the capitol building is secure. That security is tight.
I saw some of "Olympus has fallen" (where terrorists invade the WH) and thought "Nah, not possible."
Now I think "Nah, thats overkill. Just need 500 guys all yelling about freedom to walk inside like they own the place."
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MSNBC has been musing on how law enforcement might have handled this event if it was a BLM action.
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Meh... storm in a teacup, at the end of the day they will have acheived nothing.
I'm curious as to whether there will be consequences for the likes of Cruz and Hawley?
https://indica.medium.com/i-lived-through-a-coup-america-is-having-one-now-437934b1dac3
Not dissimilar from what is happening now.
You may think its silly but a bunch of mostly unarmed people, walked into the capitol building, stopped government, made the senators all evacuate or hide, took selfies in high ranking senator offices (possibly with unlocked computers) and only one person may have died.
This is like walking into a bank, going into the safe, taking a bag of money, and walking out. Pausing briefly to take a selfie with the bank guard.
It breaks the illusion that the capitol building is secure. That security is tight.
I saw some of "Olympus has fallen" (where terrorists invade the WH) and thought "Nah, not possible."
Now I think "Nah, thats overkill. Just need 500 guys all yelling about freedom to walk inside like they own the place."
A coup is not the wrong word to describe it but a bit too strong of a word. I guess it could be called an attempted coup but it's purely driven by the id of the crowd. There's no strategy. No one brought weapons. No lawmakers killed. This will fail to change anything and will likely cause enormous damage to the "conservative" movement.
As for capitol security, I recall a few incidents where crazy people sort of wandered into the White House during the Obama years. There's a lot of security but it's very random.
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These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!
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You can't even link to the tweet. The last sentence is from Twitter.
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MSNBC has been musing on how law enforcement might have handled this event if it was a BLM action.
Maybe like this?
(https://media.gvwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/11102313/lincoln-memorial-750x400.jpg)
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So... Civil fucking war 2. I wonder if they can do a quick impeachment just to ensure he doesn't try a coupe while being in command of the military for the next 14 ish days.
No time for impeachment. Time for the 25th amendment.
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No time for impeachment. Time for the 25th amendment.
Mike Pence grow a spine now? Hardly. Republican toadies don't dare offend Trump or his cult followers. Pence wanted this to go by quickly and quietly hoping Trump's base would forget in four years.
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Pence’s Twitter does have a picture of Biden and Harris now.
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Some media tweeted that it was Pence who called the National Guard today. I think it was MSNBC, but I have already scrolled away.
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Nice to see 2021 is off to a great start. No I'm not being sarcastic, Dems got the senate and Trump is kicked off twitter.
Not bad for day 6, only 359 to go.
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Some media tweeted that it was Pence who called the National Guard today. I think it was MSNBC, but I have already scrolled away.
It was the NYT that reported Pence calling out the National Guard.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/national-guard-capitol-army.html
Now the rumors are going around that they have invoked the 25th.
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https://indica.medium.com/i-lived-through-a-coup-america-is-having-one-now-437934b1dac3
Not dissimilar from what is happening now.
You may think its silly but a bunch of mostly unarmed people, walked into the capitol building, stopped government, made the senators all evacuate or hide, took selfies in high ranking senator offices (possibly with unlocked computers) and only one person may have died.
This is like walking into a bank, going into the safe, taking a bag of money, and walking out. Pausing briefly to take a selfie with the bank guard.
It breaks the illusion that the capitol building is secure. That security is tight.
I saw some of "Olympus has fallen" (where terrorists invade the WH) and thought "Nah, not possible."
Now I think "Nah, thats overkill. Just need 500 guys all yelling about freedom to walk inside like they own the place."
First of all, just saying, be wary of people from countries you don't know making parallels to events you don't know. I'm basing that on the monumentally stupid and ignorant takes some Greek people who write for English language media have, that people abroad treat as gospel because it's their country and they know, right?
Not saying it is wrong, but the parallels between Sri Lanka and the US are far fetched. The only reason this happened was because the police didn't care. Why didn't they care? That is to be answered. But rest assured that if it was any other scenario, they wouldn't have been let near the stairs. It was intentional.
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Congress has reconvened!
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https://indica.medium.com/i-lived-through-a-coup-america-is-having-one-now-437934b1dac3
Not dissimilar from what is happening now.
You may think its silly but a bunch of mostly unarmed people, walked into the capitol building, stopped government, made the senators all evacuate or hide, took selfies in high ranking senator offices (possibly with unlocked computers) and only one person may have died.
This is like walking into a bank, going into the safe, taking a bag of money, and walking out. Pausing briefly to take a selfie with the bank guard.
It breaks the illusion that the capitol building is secure. That security is tight.
I saw some of "Olympus has fallen" (where terrorists invade the WH) and thought "Nah, not possible."
Now I think "Nah, thats overkill. Just need 500 guys all yelling about freedom to walk inside like they own the place."
First of all, just saying, be wary of people from countries you don't know making parallels to events you don't know. I'm basing that on the monumentally stupid and ignorant takes some Greek people who write for English language media have, that people abroad treat as gospel because it's their country and they know, right?
Not saying it is wrong, but the parallels between Sri Lanka and the US are far fetched. The only reason this happened was because the police didn't care. Why didn't they care? That is to be answered. But rest assured that if it was any other scenario, they wouldn't have been let near the stairs. It was intentional.
Not necessarily. I think there's still answers to be had but one thing I've heard is that after the incident where Trump had protesters tear gassed to hold a bible upside down for a photo op that the police presence in DC was intentionally toned down.
Not sure if that's the whole story but I wouldn't immediately assume that the police stepped aside to let maniacs rummage through the capitol.
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Well they know the lady’s name who died. Ashli Babbit She apparently was an Air Force Vet.
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Elizabeth from Knoxville wasn't fully aware what storming the capital for revolution would actually entail.
https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1346919171595137025
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Apparently he has a 24hr Facebook ban, too https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1346993101563314176?s=20
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Elizabeth from Knoxville wasn't fully aware what storming the capital for revolution would actually entail.
https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1346919171595137025
Dumb bitch got what she deserved. I hope police wade through all the entitled Trumptardian morons Twitter, Facebook and interviews like the above to charge them all with trespass, riot and insurrection (if that's a thing) too
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I kinda feel sorry for her. She didn't know the revolution would hurt.
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Elizabeth from Knoxville wasn't fully aware what storming the capital for revolution would actually entail.
https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1346919171595137025
Dumb bitch got what she deserved. I hope police wade through all the entitled Trumptardian morons Twitter, Facebook and interviews like the above to charge them all with trespass, riot and insurrection (if that's a thing) too
The only thing that would have been better is if she got hit in the face with the mace grenade.
I hope she never lives that down. I know better than to hope she will suffer any legal consequences.
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Trumps kids are in damage control mode. Deleting previous tweets (probably worried about how inciting violence looks), calling for 'peace' (ha!) and saying 'don't act like the other side!'
Rudy Giuliani's Twitter is also full of shit telling the 'patriots' they are on 'the right side of history'. Coup enabling f-wit
Honestly I think the Trump family are done and have very little hope of presidential aspirations. Even if they are popular with people they are a poisoned chalice to the repugnican party which I think they are finally starting to see (well the less demented ones).
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The Republicans are turning on Trump tonight. Even Lindsay got up off his knees.
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Wow America, just wow
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It's a shame, the political system needs to be purged with 99 percent of people ran out with pitchforks. It isn't a right or left issue, it's an issue for all inhabitants of America, we all need to unite instead of fight each other over these fucks in the government that could care less if we live or die.
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It's a shame, the political system needs to be purged with 99 percent of people ran out with pitchforks. It isn't a right or left issue, it's an issue for all inhabitants of America, we all need to unite instead of fight each other over these fucks in the government that could care less if we live or die.
All a good sentiment except who would you replace them with? How would you ensure they were worthy of the position?
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It's a shame, the political system needs to be purged with 99 percent of people ran out with pitchforks. It isn't a right or left issue, it's an issue for all inhabitants of America, we all need to unite instead of fight each other over these fucks in the government that could care less if we live or die.
Trump certainly didn’t care if his supporters died when he incited an attack on democracy. And it is a right wing issue. The issue being that the President spread unfounded claims that the left rigged the election, supported by many right wing media and many of his party. The good people of America need to unite against you lot.
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It's a shame, the political system needs to be purged with 99 percent of people ran out with pitchforks. It isn't a right or left issue, it's an issue for all inhabitants of America, we all need to unite instead of fight each other over these fucks in the government that could care less if we live or die.
All a good sentiment except who would you replace them with? How would you ensure they were worthy of the position?
The whole purge with pitchforks is the sentiment that had people breach the capitol though
You guys just need to stop enabling these repugnant politicians and elect people of moral standing.
Reject people who use fear, hate and division to spread a message. Reject corruption. Reject the childish insults and slanging by people on opposite sides of the floor. Demand better from your elected officials. This may mean that you have a very boring political atmosphere but look at your alternative
Most countries peoples wouldn't tolerate the way Trump talks about his opponents for 1 day let alone 4 years. It's disgusting. I know for a fact if Australias PM talked about our opposition leader that way he'd be pretty much tossed out by the end of the day.
So rather than storm the capitol demanding they all be fired, do it by not re-electing people that are only there to serve themselves and political ambitions.
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At long last they finished up. Pence has crowned Biden the president.
Your move Trump. We all know that he's not conceding after today.
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It's a shame, the political system needs to be purged with 99 percent of people ran out with pitchforks. It isn't a right or left issue, it's an issue for all inhabitants of America, we all need to unite instead of fight each other over these fucks in the government that could care less if we live or die.
Bullshit, it's down to the people pushing lies to gullible people. Start with Fox, OAN and Newsmax.
Stop pretending there is some kind of left/right equivance.
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It's a shame, the political system needs to be purged with 99 percent of people ran out with pitchforks. It isn't a right or left issue, it's an issue for all inhabitants of America, we all need to unite instead of fight each other over these fucks in the government that could care less if we live or die.
There is zero equivalence between these parties at this time. One party wants to make us drink soy lattes for every meal, if Tucker Carlson is to be believe. The other people is actively defending a failed reality TV star who just incited an insurrection against the United States, you know, that place where we keep all our stuff.
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Oh, and Bom, before I forget D1 is active in the lower fora. Might want to say hi.
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It's a shame, the political system needs to be purged with 99 percent of people ran out with pitchforks. It isn't a right or left issue, it's an issue for all inhabitants of America, we all need to unite instead of fight each other over these fucks in the government that could care less if we live or die.
All a good sentiment except who would you replace them with? How would you ensure they were worthy of the position?
An elected official is supposed to be the product of the populous, so I would say our shitty governing force is a reflection of a shitty population. However, they are all a gang and have been for decades, controlling who is allowed to get any traction when running for a position (excluding small local elections, though even many of those are corrupt). They are all heads of serpent with one body. If one person betrays the overall principle (greed, power, corruption etc), such as one of the few good people, their head is removed.
So we are stuck with complete shit, choosing between terrible and horrendous with no other options (sure you can vote for an odd ball, but because of said system, it's a wasted vote).
So in answer to your question, if we remove the body of the serpent, we might actually have a chance for good people to run again and be known.
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I think it is evident that the American system of allowing one man so much power only works if the country is capable of selecting someone of enough maturity and sanity to shoulder the burden, you were lucky here, if you get a authoritarian minded candidate who is actually intelligent and knows what he is doing, this could easily have had a very different outcome.
The checks and balances for your leader and their actions should be strengthened.
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It's a shame, the political system needs to be purged with 99 percent of people ran out with pitchforks. It isn't a right or left issue, it's an issue for all inhabitants of America, we all need to unite instead of fight each other over these fucks in the government that could care less if we live or die.
As for this post, it went completely over everyone's head excluding lord dave's. You are acting exactly how the left and right want you to. Please reread the post and think about it. We need to join together against the real enemy, not battle each other like pawns for them.
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It's a shame, the political system needs to be purged with 99 percent of people ran out with pitchforks. It isn't a right or left issue, it's an issue for all inhabitants of America, we all need to unite instead of fight each other over these fucks in the government that could care less if we live or die.
There is zero equivalence between these parties at this time. One party wants to make us drink soy lattes for every meal, if Tucker Carlson is to be believe. The other people is actively defending a failed reality TV star who just incited an insurrection against the United States, you know, that place where we keep all our stuff.
God 2 minutes of the pompous Carlson moron and I have to switch off. I'd rather put my balls in a vice and turn it like there's no tomorrow than watch that goon any longer
What happened in the capitol is nothing short of domestic terrorism by radicalized thugs at the behest of Trump. I'm not sure how Fox after seeing the events today can continue to enable these people like Carlson.
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I think it is evident that the American system of allowing one man so much power only works if the country is capable of selecting someone of enough maturity and sanity to shoulder the burden, you were lucky here, if you get a authoritarian minded candidate who is actually intelligent and knows what he is doing, this could easily have had a very different outcome.
The checks and balances for your leader and their actions should be strengthened.
Well, what has happened is a good 'stress test' of Americas democratic system. Trump, despite all the money he received and his dictatorship ambition. Despite the lies and cult leader status, still failed to get anywhere. He has certainly shown some of its flaws and hopefully after he is booted and now with the dems in control of both the house and the senate they get shit done to fix it up once and for all.
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And so ends the "greatest first term in presidential history"
Trump says 'there will be an orderly transition on January 20th'
President Donald Trump early Thursday morning said that there would be "an orderly transition on January 20th."
The president released the statement through the White House minutes after Congress confirmed President-elect Joe Biden's win.
In his statement, the president again made false claims about the outcome of the election but said that this month will bring to end "the greatest first term in presidential history."
I'm taking bets as to how long before Trump gets arrested. I predict he will be charged before the end of January, any Takers?
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And so ends the "greatest first term in presidential history"
Trump says 'there will be an orderly transition on January 20th'
President Donald Trump early Thursday morning said that there would be "an orderly transition on January 20th."
The president released the statement through the White House minutes after Congress confirmed President-elect Joe Biden's win.
In his statement, the president again made false claims about the outcome of the election but said that this month will bring to end "the greatest first term in presidential history."
I'm taking bets as to how long before Trump gets arrested. I predict he will be charged before the end of January, any Takers?
I'll take that bet. He'll be charged but not sure anything will come of it though. Maybe his spiritual advisor can pray for some angels to save the day again or something
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It's a shame, the political system needs to be purged with 99 percent of people ran out with pitchforks.
You're an anarchist now then?
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https://indica.medium.com/i-lived-through-a-coup-america-is-having-one-now-437934b1dac3
Not dissimilar from what is happening now.
You may think its silly but a bunch of mostly unarmed people, walked into the capitol building, stopped government, made the senators all evacuate or hide, took selfies in high ranking senator offices (possibly with unlocked computers) and only one person may have died.
This is like walking into a bank, going into the safe, taking a bag of money, and walking out. Pausing briefly to take a selfie with the bank guard.
It breaks the illusion that the capitol building is secure. That security is tight.
I saw some of "Olympus has fallen" (where terrorists invade the WH) and thought "Nah, not possible."
Now I think "Nah, thats overkill. Just need 500 guys all yelling about freedom to walk inside like they own the place."
First of all, just saying, be wary of people from countries you don't know making parallels to events you don't know. I'm basing that on the monumentally stupid and ignorant takes some Greek people who write for English language media have, that people abroad treat as gospel because it's their country and they know, right?
Not saying it is wrong, but the parallels between Sri Lanka and the US are far fetched. The only reason this happened was because the police didn't care. Why didn't they care? That is to be answered. But rest assured that if it was any other scenario, they wouldn't have been let near the stairs. It was intentional.
Not necessarily. I think there's still answers to be had but one thing I've heard is that after the incident where Trump had protesters tear gassed to hold a bible upside down for a photo op that the police presence in DC was intentionally toned down.
Not sure if that's the whole story but I wouldn't immediately assume that the police stepped aside to let maniacs rummage through the capitol.
Would you assume it after watching videos where they are doing exactly that?
https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520
https://mobile.twitter.com/jihanbit/status/1346909463660396550
I watched it unfold from the start. There is noooo way this could accidentally happen. The protesters were hardly even feisty, they were weirdly tame for the most part for what they managed to achieve. We've had many demonstrations in Athens much more aggressive and large than that over the years outside the Parliament and the protesters aren't even let close to the stairs. And we're Greece, we're not the US with a hyper militarized and extremely well funded police. They were walking into the building like it was a school trip. Just a bunch of obese 60-somethings and skinny dudes with goat masks walking and police just chilling there, looking at them.
You don't even have to have a lot of police to disperse them. Tear gas feels like you are suffocating. It's extremely effective. Most of these people probably had never been tear gassed before either. They'd lose their shit and start running all over the place before they even figured out what happened.
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In all the excitement I missed this.. Merrick Garland is the new AG.
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I thought they just wanted to have a 'chat' with Pence
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/trump-supporters-congress-offices
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2021-01/6/20/asset/8fa865d5bddb/sub-buzz-30416-1609965395-4.jpg?downsize=700%3A%2A&output-quality=auto&output-format=auto)
Imagine breaking into a bank and taking a selfie in the safe room and sharing it online. This is the level of intelligence of the typical Trumptardian
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Τhis is what it looks like when both police and protesters are actually trying:
This is completely analogous btw because this was also a demonstration by conservative nationalists complaining about North Macedonia. There were far more people there too, 30k in the US ordered by the president is almost pitiful. I checked btw as the Trump supporters were getting inside, very very few had gas masks.
Compare it to this:
What the fuck is going on? Half the police is just chilling on the side, they don't seem to have shields or riot gear in general for some reason (it's a big ass protest, how is there no riot police around?), they're not sitting in formation, they're making no attempt to spray anyone. Also the Capitol was breached and yet the National Guard was just ignoring the whole thing until it was basically over? Like, come on, who is responsible for this? It's such bullshit.
Also apparently the door doesn't lock?? Like, you can just push it open?? How does that work?
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I thought they just wanted to have a 'chat' with Pence
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/trump-supporters-congress-offices
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2021-01/6/20/asset/8fa865d5bddb/sub-buzz-30416-1609965395-4.jpg?downsize=700%3A%2A&output-quality=auto&output-format=auto)
Imagine breaking into a bank and taking a selfie in the safe room and sharing it online. This is the level of intelligence of the typical Trumptardian
Yeah lol these people are so fucked.
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I think it is evident that the American system of allowing one man so much power only works if the country is capable of selecting someone of enough maturity and sanity to shoulder the burden, you were lucky here, if you get a authoritarian minded candidate who is actually intelligent and knows what he is doing, this could easily have had a very different outcome.
The checks and balances for your leader and their actions should be strengthened.
Well, what has happened is a good 'stress test' of Americas democratic system. Trump, despite all the money he received and his dictatorship ambition. Despite the lies and cult leader status, still failed to get anywhere. He has certainly shown some of its flaws and hopefully after he is booted and now with the dems in control of both the house and the senate they get shit done to fix it up once and for all.
I don’t think it was a pass of the stress test, quite the opposite.
Imagine if Trump hadn’t been just a blowhard and had walked with those people. As it was there was no leadership, just a vague idea that justice would prevail, when they got inside, they just milled around taking (incriminating) selfies and being generally dumb.
A charismatic man with a plan would be sitting in his bunker about now thinking; “If that plank can get 70 million people to vote for him and get them to storm the seat of government that easily, shit!”
I would be very scrutinous of who crawls out of the woodwork in the coming months if I were in US security.
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I think it is evident that the American system of allowing one man so much power only works if the country is capable of selecting someone of enough maturity and sanity to shoulder the burden, you were lucky here, if you get a authoritarian minded candidate who is actually intelligent and knows what he is doing, this could easily have had a very different outcome.
The checks and balances for your leader and their actions should be strengthened.
Well, what has happened is a good 'stress test' of Americas democratic system. Trump, despite all the money he received and his dictatorship ambition. Despite the lies and cult leader status, still failed to get anywhere. He has certainly shown some of its flaws and hopefully after he is booted and now with the dems in control of both the house and the senate they get shit done to fix it up once and for all.
I don’t think it was a pass of the stress test, quite the opposite.
Imagine if Trump hadn’t been just a blowhard and had walked with those people. As it was there was no leadership, just a vague idea that justice would prevail, when they got inside, they just milled around taking (incriminating) selfies and being generally dumb.
A charismatic man with a plan would be sitting in his bunker about now thinking; “If that plank can get 70 million people to vote for him and get them to storm the seat of government that easily, shit!”
I would be very scrutinous of who crawls out of the woodwork in the coming months if I were in US security.
If this was actually going to threaten anything, they wouldn't have let it happen.
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I think it is evident that the American system of allowing one man so much power only works if the country is capable of selecting someone of enough maturity and sanity to shoulder the burden, you were lucky here, if you get a authoritarian minded candidate who is actually intelligent and knows what he is doing, this could easily have had a very different outcome.
The checks and balances for your leader and their actions should be strengthened.
Well, what has happened is a good 'stress test' of Americas democratic system. Trump, despite all the money he received and his dictatorship ambition. Despite the lies and cult leader status, still failed to get anywhere. He has certainly shown some of its flaws and hopefully after he is booted and now with the dems in control of both the house and the senate they get shit done to fix it up once and for all.
I don’t think it was a pass of the stress test, quite the opposite.
Imagine if Trump hadn’t been just a blowhard and had walked with those people. As it was there was no leadership, just a vague idea that justice would prevail, when they got inside, they just milled around taking (incriminating) selfies and being generally dumb.
A charismatic man with a plan would be sitting in his bunker about now thinking; “If that plank can get 70 million people to vote for him and get them to storm the seat of government that easily, shit!”
I would be very scrutinous of who crawls out of the woodwork in the coming months if I were in US security.
If this was actually going to threaten anything, they wouldn't have let it happen.
Who is 'they'? Illuminati?
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I think it is evident that the American system of allowing one man so much power only works if the country is capable of selecting someone of enough maturity and sanity to shoulder the burden, you were lucky here, if you get a authoritarian minded candidate who is actually intelligent and knows what he is doing, this could easily have had a very different outcome.
The checks and balances for your leader and their actions should be strengthened.
Well, what has happened is a good 'stress test' of Americas democratic system. Trump, despite all the money he received and his dictatorship ambition. Despite the lies and cult leader status, still failed to get anywhere. He has certainly shown some of its flaws and hopefully after he is booted and now with the dems in control of both the house and the senate they get shit done to fix it up once and for all.
I don’t think it was a pass of the stress test, quite the opposite.
Imagine if Trump hadn’t been just a blowhard and had walked with those people. As it was there was no leadership, just a vague idea that justice would prevail, when they got inside, they just milled around taking (incriminating) selfies and being generally dumb.
A charismatic man with a plan would be sitting in his bunker about now thinking; “If that plank can get 70 million people to vote for him and get them to storm the seat of government that easily, shit!”
I would be very scrutinous of who crawls out of the woodwork in the coming months if I were in US security.
If this was actually going to threaten anything, they wouldn't have let it happen.
Who is 'they'? Illuminati?
The state.
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Elizabeth from Knoxville wasn't fully aware what storming the capital for revolution would actually entail.
https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1346919171595137025
Dumb bitch got what she deserved. I hope police wade through all the entitled Trumptardian morons Twitter, Facebook and interviews like the above to charge them all with trespass, riot and insurrection (if that's a thing) too
If only her name was Karen...
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Elizabeth from Knoxville wasn't fully aware what storming the capital for revolution would actually entail.
https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1346919171595137025
Dumb bitch got what she deserved. I hope police wade through all the entitled Trumptardian morons Twitter, Facebook and interviews like the above to charge them all with trespass, riot and insurrection (if that's a thing) too
If only her name was Karen...
It's funny seeing them cry saying they wanted to see the police 'do their jobs'... Morons. They saw first hand police do their jobs when they got maced in the face! ::)
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I think it is evident that the American system of allowing one man so much power only works if the country is capable of selecting someone of enough maturity and sanity to shoulder the burden, you were lucky here, if you get a authoritarian minded candidate who is actually intelligent and knows what he is doing, this could easily have had a very different outcome.
The checks and balances for your leader and their actions should be strengthened.
Well, what has happened is a good 'stress test' of Americas democratic system. Trump, despite all the money he received and his dictatorship ambition. Despite the lies and cult leader status, still failed to get anywhere. He has certainly shown some of its flaws and hopefully after he is booted and now with the dems in control of both the house and the senate they get shit done to fix it up once and for all.
I don’t think it was a pass of the stress test, quite the opposite.
Imagine if Trump hadn’t been just a blowhard and had walked with those people. As it was there was no leadership, just a vague idea that justice would prevail, when they got inside, they just milled around taking (incriminating) selfies and being generally dumb.
A charismatic man with a plan would be sitting in his bunker about now thinking; “If that plank can get 70 million people to vote for him and get them to storm the seat of government that easily, shit!”
I would be very scrutinous of who crawls out of the woodwork in the coming months if I were in US security.
Agreed. Sometimes I feel that we're very fortunate in a way to get Trump. If for whatever reason enough of the country feels like electing a wannabe dictator is acceptable then I'd rather get an extremely obvious and incompetent one. Maybe it'll inoculate us against fascism.
Then again maybe that's wishful thinking.
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Here's a view of the crowds I didn't see last night https://twitter.com/KySportsRadio/status/1347031398176223233?s=20
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https://indica.medium.com/i-lived-through-a-coup-america-is-having-one-now-437934b1dac3
Not dissimilar from what is happening now.
You may think its silly but a bunch of mostly unarmed people, walked into the capitol building, stopped government, made the senators all evacuate or hide, took selfies in high ranking senator offices (possibly with unlocked computers) and only one person may have died.
This is like walking into a bank, going into the safe, taking a bag of money, and walking out. Pausing briefly to take a selfie with the bank guard.
It breaks the illusion that the capitol building is secure. That security is tight.
I saw some of "Olympus has fallen" (where terrorists invade the WH) and thought "Nah, not possible."
Now I think "Nah, thats overkill. Just need 500 guys all yelling about freedom to walk inside like they own the place."
First of all, just saying, be wary of people from countries you don't know making parallels to events you don't know. I'm basing that on the monumentally stupid and ignorant takes some Greek people who write for English language media have, that people abroad treat as gospel because it's their country and they know, right?
Not saying it is wrong, but the parallels between Sri Lanka and the US are far fetched. The only reason this happened was because the police didn't care. Why didn't they care? That is to be answered. But rest assured that if it was any other scenario, they wouldn't have been let near the stairs. It was intentional.
Not necessarily. I think there's still answers to be had but one thing I've heard is that after the incident where Trump had protesters tear gassed to hold a bible upside down for a photo op that the police presence in DC was intentionally toned down.
Not sure if that's the whole story but I wouldn't immediately assume that the police stepped aside to let maniacs rummage through the capitol.
Would you assume it after watching videos where they are doing exactly that?
https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520
https://mobile.twitter.com/jihanbit/status/1346909463660396550
I watched it unfold from the start. There is noooo way this could accidentally happen. The protesters were hardly even feisty, they were weirdly tame for the most part for what they managed to achieve. We've had many demonstrations in Athens much more aggressive and large than that over the years outside the Parliament and the protesters aren't even let close to the stairs. And we're Greece, we're not the US with a hyper militarized and extremely well funded police. They were walking into the building like it was a school trip. Just a bunch of obese 60-somethings and skinny dudes with goat masks walking and police just chilling there, looking at them.
You don't even have to have a lot of police to disperse them. Tear gas feels like you are suffocating. It's extremely effective. Most of these people probably had never been tear gassed before either. They'd lose their shit and start running all over the place before they even figured out what happened.
Yeah I'm really not sure what to make of the police response yet. It does sort of seem like a blend of total incompetence and affinity for Trump supporters.
I really don't think it was planned though. It seems like it's just a consequence of Trump ginning up his most extreme supporters right next to the building with all the people that he's declaring his enemies.
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Trump has been banned from Facebook permanently.
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It's a shame, the political system needs to be purged with 99 percent of people ran out with pitchforks. It isn't a right or left issue, it's an issue for all inhabitants of America, we all need to unite instead of fight each other over these fucks in the government that could care less if we live or die.
As for this post, it went completely over everyone's head excluding lord dave's. You are acting exactly how the left and right want you to. Please reread the post and think about it. We need to join together against the real enemy, not battle each other like pawns for them.
Yeah , yeah. “We should all stop arguing and do things my way”.
It’s a classic, but I disagree with your way.
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https://indica.medium.com/i-lived-through-a-coup-america-is-having-one-now-437934b1dac3
Not dissimilar from what is happening now.
You may think its silly but a bunch of mostly unarmed people, walked into the capitol building, stopped government, made the senators all evacuate or hide, took selfies in high ranking senator offices (possibly with unlocked computers) and only one person may have died.
This is like walking into a bank, going into the safe, taking a bag of money, and walking out. Pausing briefly to take a selfie with the bank guard.
It breaks the illusion that the capitol building is secure. That security is tight.
I saw some of "Olympus has fallen" (where terrorists invade the WH) and thought "Nah, not possible."
Now I think "Nah, thats overkill. Just need 500 guys all yelling about freedom to walk inside like they own the place."
First of all, just saying, be wary of people from countries you don't know making parallels to events you don't know. I'm basing that on the monumentally stupid and ignorant takes some Greek people who write for English language media have, that people abroad treat as gospel because it's their country and they know, right?
Not saying it is wrong, but the parallels between Sri Lanka and the US are far fetched. The only reason this happened was because the police didn't care. Why didn't they care? That is to be answered. But rest assured that if it was any other scenario, they wouldn't have been let near the stairs. It was intentional.
Not necessarily. I think there's still answers to be had but one thing I've heard is that after the incident where Trump had protesters tear gassed to hold a bible upside down for a photo op that the police presence in DC was intentionally toned down.
Not sure if that's the whole story but I wouldn't immediately assume that the police stepped aside to let maniacs rummage through the capitol.
Would you assume it after watching videos where they are doing exactly that?
https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520
https://mobile.twitter.com/jihanbit/status/1346909463660396550
I watched it unfold from the start. There is noooo way this could accidentally happen. The protesters were hardly even feisty, they were weirdly tame for the most part for what they managed to achieve. We've had many demonstrations in Athens much more aggressive and large than that over the years outside the Parliament and the protesters aren't even let close to the stairs. And we're Greece, we're not the US with a hyper militarized and extremely well funded police. They were walking into the building like it was a school trip. Just a bunch of obese 60-somethings and skinny dudes with goat masks walking and police just chilling there, looking at them.
You don't even have to have a lot of police to disperse them. Tear gas feels like you are suffocating. It's extremely effective. Most of these people probably had never been tear gassed before either. They'd lose their shit and start running all over the place before they even figured out what happened.
Yeah I'm really not sure what to make of the police response yet. It does sort of seem like a blend of total incompetence and affinity for Trump supporters.
I really don't think it was planned though. It seems like it's just a consequence of Trump ginning up his most extreme supporters right next to the building with all the people that he's declaring his enemies.
But it's not like they were so militant it was impossible to hold them back. They were about as tame as raging crowds get, and there wasn't that many of them.
It was so easy for them to get inside that if this was a regular thing, Al Qaeda wouldn't have to go through all the trouble to hijack airplanes and whatnot, they could simply send 40 heavily armed dudes in vans and they could take out all the guards in 5 minutes and go through all the doors since apparently nothing ever locks there. They knew very well there would be demonstrations and they knew very well there would be angry people. You've got the literal president calling for his rabid fan base to stop the election from being "stolen" and only 30k show up? And even the vast majority of the most militant ones don't even have masks or petrol bombs or bats? If anything it was extremely underwhelming and somehow they were "unprepared"? I can't justify to myself the degree of "incompetence" especially when they've shown in the past how brutal and effective they can be when they are actually trying.
The most "charitable" interpretation is that police was amenable to their cause so they didn't try to stop them. The other interpretation is that police was ordered from higher ups not to stop them.
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But it's not like they were so militant it was impossible to hold them back. They were about as tame as raging crowds get, and there wasn't that many of them.
It was so easy for them to get inside that if this was a regular thing, Al Qaeda wouldn't have to go through all the trouble to hijack airplanes and whatnot, they could simply send 40 heavily armed dudes in vans and they could take out all the guards in 5 minutes and go through all the doors since apparently nothing ever locks there. They knew very well there would be demonstrations and they knew very well there would be angry people. You've got the literal president calling for his rabid fan base to stop the election from being "stolen" and only 30k show up? And even the vast majority of the most militant ones don't even have masks or petrol bombs or bats? If anything it was extremely underwhelming and somehow they were "unprepared"? I can't justify to myself the degree of "incompetence" especially when they've shown in the past how brutal and effective they can be when they are actually trying.
The most "charitable" interpretation is that police was amenable to their cause so they didn't try to stop them. The other interpretation is that police was ordered from higher ups not to stop them.
Yeah it looks pretty bad. But we're getting new leadership in two weeks, the house, senate and the presidency(not sure if you followed the news on Georgia). This seriously needs to be looked into.
Fundamentally I think the problem here is similar to the problem of police murdering black people. The police have become political. They have police unions. They can endorse candidates. They have their own superpacs. This should be banned and steps should be made to make law enforcement strictly apolitical.
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Also I feel that my words aren't adequately expressing my outrage here. So here's a video of a man screaming that I feel appropriately represents my feelings on the matter.
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Schumer is now calling for Trump's removal through either impeachment or the 25th amendment.
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Trump has been banned from Facebook for 'at least 2 weeks' and maybe indefinitely.
Twitter should grow a spine and shut him up too.
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Schumer is now calling for Trump's removal through either impeachment or the 25th amendment.
They should impeach the prick to completely remove any aspirations he has for 2024 (should he weasel himself out of the impending charges coming his way).
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But it's not like they were so militant it was impossible to hold them back. They were about as tame as raging crowds get, and there wasn't that many of them.
It was so easy for them to get inside that if this was a regular thing, Al Qaeda wouldn't have to go through all the trouble to hijack airplanes and whatnot, they could simply send 40 heavily armed dudes in vans and they could take out all the guards in 5 minutes and go through all the doors since apparently nothing ever locks there. They knew very well there would be demonstrations and they knew very well there would be angry people. You've got the literal president calling for his rabid fan base to stop the election from being "stolen" and only 30k show up? And even the vast majority of the most militant ones don't even have masks or petrol bombs or bats? If anything it was extremely underwhelming and somehow they were "unprepared"? I can't justify to myself the degree of "incompetence" especially when they've shown in the past how brutal and effective they can be when they are actually trying.
The most "charitable" interpretation is that police was amenable to their cause so they didn't try to stop them. The other interpretation is that police was ordered from higher ups not to stop them.
Yeah it looks pretty bad. But we're getting new leadership in two weeks, the house, senate and the presidency(not sure if you followed the news on Georgia). This seriously needs to be looked into.
Fundamentally I think the problem here is similar to the problem of police murdering black people. The police have become political. They have police unions. They can endorse candidates. They have their own superpacs. This should be banned and steps should be made to make law enforcement strictly apolitical.
I'm definitely not ruling out this being entirely on the police acting independently. However the stuff with police unions and police becoming political etc happens in many places, not just the US. It also happens here. Remember that video I posted comparing the response of police in Greece to crazed nationalists trying to storm the parliament compared to the response American police had to Trump supporters doing the same in Capitol? Well, it's actually perfectly analogous because I would bet good money that not one of the people in riot gear fending off protesters was opposed to their demands. Police is infamously right wing. And yet they still fended him off (their treatment was still kid glove treatment compared to what they would do to anyone else, but they actually tried). Because cops usually just do what they are told to do, when they have orders. It definitely wasn't just down to the individual cops, so the question is, was it down to their bosses or were their bosses too prompted to do that by someone else? If yes, was that the republicans because they somehow thought this was a good idea? Was it Trump's people? Was it the secret services? Idk, what's happening is very weird and this was pretty unexpected.
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Schumer is now calling for Trump's removal through either impeachment or the 25th amendment.
They should impeach the prick to completely remove any aspirations he has for 2024 (should he weasel himself out of the impending charges coming his way).
Putting him in prison for 20 years for sedition would go a long way toward keeping him out of office too.
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LegalEagle discussing the siege yesterday. The anger he's feeling is palpable, but he's still very well spoken and well collected.
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Trump has been banned from Facebook for 'at least 2 weeks' and maybe indefinitely.
Twitter should grow a spine and shut him up too.
Too little, too late. Damage done.
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I think there was more than one thing going on. Trump whipped the rally crowd up and sent them off to take over the capitol. Many police officers are Trump fans, and went along with it. Trump also did not call in extra security for the capitol and it was left to Pence to get the National Guard, which isn't his job, so it took a couple hours.
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None of the response should be a surprise to anyone.
White private is a thing, this was a perfect example of it.
It wasn't until the police felt threatened for their own safety that they began to seriously try and control the situation. Up to that point they were all good ole boys.
It's lucky the pipe bombs were defused, imagine if they had gotten them inside the capital building and detonated them there. A lot more than 4 people could have been killed. One shooter with an automatic weapon could have caused mass deaths too, again only luck that didn't happen.
Trump needs impeached and removed by congress. Fuck the 25th amendment, congress shouldn't get the easy out. They need to vote this seditious bastard out now before he does any more damage.
God, watching some of those GOP assholes debate made my blood boil Especially the guy who said that the protesters were actually "violent antifa terrorists" and Trump has nothing to do with any of it. Screw that asshole, he just kept pouring more fire on the flame.
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/07/us/elections/electoral-college-biden-objectors.html
A complete list of the sedition caucus.
Senate
Tommy Tuberville, Ala.
Rick Scott, Fla.
Roger Marshall, Kan.
John Kennedy, La.
Cindy Hyde-Smith, Miss.
Josh Hawley, Mo.
Ted Cruz, Texas
Cynthia Lummis, Wyo.
House
Robert B. Aderholt, Ala.
Mo Brooks, Ala.
Jerry Carl, Ala.
Barry Moore, Ala.
Gary Palmer, Ala.
Mike Rogers, Ala.
Andy Biggs, Ariz.
Paul Gosar, Ariz.
Debbie Lesko, Ariz.
David Schweikert, Ariz.
Rick Crawford, Ark.
Ken Calvert, Calif.
Mike Garcia, Calif.
Darrell Issa, Calif.
Doug LaMalfa, Calif.
Kevin McCarthy, Calif.
Devin Nunes, Calif.
Jay Obernolte, Calif.
Lauren Boebert, Colo.
Doug Lamborn, Colo.
Kat Cammack, Fla.
Mario Diaz-Balart, Fla.
Byron Donalds, Fla.
Neal Dunn, Fla.
Scott Franklin, Fla.
Matt Gaetz, Fla.
Carlos Gimenez, Fla.
Brian Mast, Fla.
Bill Posey, Fla.
John Rutherford, Fla.
Greg Steube, Fla.
Daniel Webster, Fla.
Rick Allen, Ga.
Earl L. "Buddy" Carter, Ga.
Andrew Clyde, Ga.
Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ga.
Jody Hice, Ga.
Barry Loudermilk, Ga.
Russ Fulcher, Idaho
Mike Bost, Ill.
Mary Miller, Ill.
Jim Baird, Ind.
Jim Banks, Ind.
Greg Pence, Ind.
Jackie Walorski, Ind.
Ron Estes, Kan.
Jacob LaTurner, Kan.
Tracey Mann, Kan.
Harold Rogers, Ky.
Garret Graves, La.
Clay Higgins, La.
Mike Johnson, La.
Steve Scalise, La.
Andy Harris, Md.
Jack Bergman, Mich.
Lisa McClain, Mich.
Tim Walberg, Mich.
Michelle Fischbach, Minn.
Jim Hagedorn, Minn.
Michael Guest, Miss.
Trent Kelly, Miss.
Steven Palazzo, Miss.
Sam Graves, Mo.
Vicky Hartzler, Mo.
Billy Long, Mo.
Blaine Luetkemeyer, Mo.
Jason Smith, Mo.
Matt Rosendale, Mont.
Dan Bishop, N.C.
Ted Budd, N.C.
Madison Cawthorn, N.C.
Virginia Foxx, N.C.
Richard Hudson, N.C.
Gregory F. Murphy, N.C.
David Rouzer, N.C.
Jeff Van Drew, N.J.
Yvette Herrell, N.M.
Chris Jacobs, N.Y.
Nicole Malliotakis, N.Y.
Elise M. Stefanik, N.Y.
Lee Zeldin, N.Y.
Adrian Smith, Neb.
Steve Chabot, Ohio
Warren Davidson, Ohio
Bob Gibbs, Ohio
Bill Johnson, Ohio
Jim Jordan, Ohio
Stephanie Bice, Okla.
Tom Cole, Okla.
Kevin Hern, Okla.
Frank Lucas, Okla.
Markwayne Mullin, Okla.
Cliff Bentz, Ore.
John Joyce, Pa.
Fred Keller, Pa.
Mike Kelly, Pa.
Daniel Meuser, Pa.
Scott Perry, Pa.
Guy Reschenthaler, Pa.
Lloyd Smucker, Pa.
Glenn Thompson, Pa.
Jeff Duncan, S.C.
Ralph Norman, S.C.
Tom Rice, S.C.
William Timmons, S.C.
Joe Wilson, S.C.
Tim Burchett, Tenn.
Scott DesJarlais, Tenn.
Chuck Fleischmann, Tenn.
Mark E. Green, Tenn.
Diana Harshbarger, Tenn.
David Kustoff, Tenn.
John Rose, Tenn.
Jodey Arrington, Texas
Brian Babin, Texas
Michael C. Burgess, Texas
John R. Carter, Texas
Michael Cloud, Texas
Pat Fallon, Texas
Louie Gohmert, Texas
Lance Gooden, Texas
Ronny Jackson, Texas
Troy Nehls, Texas
August Pfluger, Texas
Pete Sessions, Texas
Beth Van Duyne, Texas
Randy Weber, Texas
Roger Williams, Texas
Ron Wright, Texas
Burgess Owens, Utah
Chris Stewart, Utah
Ben Cline, Va.
Bob Good, Va.
Morgan Griffith, Va.
Robert J. Wittman, Va.
Carol Miller, W.Va.
Alexander X. Mooney, W.Va.
Scott Fitzgerald, Wis.
Tom Tiffany, Wis.
Embarrassingly two of these representatives are from my state of Utah.
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Jackpot! 13 are from Florida. lol
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LOL You got the baker's dozen! Meanwhile, Pelosi is making a statement right now demanding Pence immediately invoke the 25th, otherwise the House will impeach again.
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The list was actually longer before the insurrection attempt or whatever that was. Some of them changed their minds while they were running for their lives. But these others just forged ahead which seems particularly psychotic to me. They all understand election safeguards so they know it wasn't stolen. If law enforcement had been just a little more incompetent yesterday then it's likely that a lot of these lawmakers would have been killed. This somehow doesn't seem to bother people like Ted Cruz.
On a separate note, isn't Trump's ban on twitter up? It was only 12 hours. His twitter feed is still quiet.
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The list was actually longer before the insurrection attempt or whatever that was. Some of them changed their minds while they were running for their lives. But these others just forged ahead which seems particularly psychotic to me. They all understand election safeguards so they know it wasn't stolen. If law enforcement had been just a little more incompetent yesterday then it's likely that a lot of these lawmakers would have been killed. This somehow doesn't seem to bother people like Ted Cruz.
On a separate note, isn't Trump's ban on twitter up? It was only 12 hours. His twitter feed is still quiet.
They made it "12 hours after he deletes the offending tweets" and Twitter won't say exactly when he went and deleted them. Even after Twitter removed them from view, he still had to go in and officially delete them himself I guess before they would start the clock. So it could already be over 12 hours since then, or it might not be.
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Graham is now giving a press conference. He is shitting on the response from law enforcement. Interestingly he also brought up how the response to black lives matter differs from the response here.
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Republicans r smrt
Took the flag of the country of Georgia to the protest.
https://twitter.com/sher_khashimov/status/1346942758091689986?s=21
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I'm seeing on NBC news that Pelosi or Schumer tried to call Pence to get him to invoke the 25th. Pence's staff put them on hold for 20 minutes and then refused to speak to them.
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I'm seeing on NBC news that Pelosi or Schumer tried to call Pence to get him to invoke the 25th. Pence's staff put them on hold for 20 minutes and then refused to speak to them.
Impeachment it is then....
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I don't think there's enough time to impeach him with all the steps that are involved. I wonder if it's possible to start impeachment now but finish it after Trump is out of office. It wouldn't remove him now but it would prevent him running for office later.
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Well the repugnicans should think long and hard how they want history books and thus future generations learning how they handled this threat. Do they stand up for the constitution? Or do they enable a wannabe authoritarian dictator who incited domestic terrorism and a siege against the capitol building and democracy
Judging by the list you posted earlier, I'm guessing the repugnicans will be remembered similarly as the NAZI party. It will be finished
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The list was actually longer before the insurrection attempt or whatever that was. Some of them changed their minds while they were running for their lives. But these others just forged ahead which seems particularly psychotic to me. They all understand election safeguards so they know it wasn't stolen. If law enforcement had been just a little more incompetent yesterday then it's likely that a lot of these lawmakers would have been killed. This somehow doesn't seem to bother people like Ted Cruz.
On a separate note, isn't Trump's ban on twitter up? It was only 12 hours. His twitter feed is still quiet.
They made it "12 hours after he deletes the offending tweets" and Twitter won't say exactly when he went and deleted them. Even after Twitter removed them from view, he still had to go in and officially delete them himself I guess before they would start the clock. So it could already be over 12 hours since then, or it might not be.
I wonder if Trump even has the ability to delete them. He probably doesn't want to 'surrender' or 'lose' to Twitter by doing what they tell him to do.
I'm enjoying imagining his angst, and seeing his main way of communicating taken away. He will have to actually give a press conference like a normal President for now.
Of course if I never have to hear from him again in any media, I'd be happy.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErGp-J5WMAEVJUG?format=jpg&name=medium)
How could you not have been prepared when it was predicted?
https://twitter.com/djlistendat/status/1347191200508473347?s=20
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The list was actually longer before the insurrection attempt or whatever that was. Some of them changed their minds while they were running for their lives. But these others just forged ahead which seems particularly psychotic to me. They all understand election safeguards so they know it wasn't stolen. If law enforcement had been just a little more incompetent yesterday then it's likely that a lot of these lawmakers would have been killed. This somehow doesn't seem to bother people like Ted Cruz.
On a separate note, isn't Trump's ban on twitter up? It was only 12 hours. His twitter feed is still quiet.
They made it "12 hours after he deletes the offending tweets" and Twitter won't say exactly when he went and deleted them. Even after Twitter removed them from view, he still had to go in and officially delete them himself I guess before they would start the clock. So it could already be over 12 hours since then, or it might not be.
I wonder if Trump even has the ability to delete them. He probably doesn't want to 'surrender' or 'lose' to Twitter by doing what they tell him to do.
I'm enjoying imagining his angst, and seeing his main way of communicating taken away. He will have to actually give a press conference like a normal President for now.
Of course if I never have to hear from him again in any media, I'd be happy.
Twitter said he did, but wouldn't say when. It's entirely possible one of his aides did it for him, though.
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I think it's telling that the MAGA babies that were in the capitol building didn't feel sure enough of their fan-base to come out and engage, talk down buffalo soldier and the bedrock confederates, might have been able to diffuse the tension.
So much for home of the brave.
Also, won't those arrested be able to use as a defense that the POTUS told them to do what they did? From the live feed I was watching many seemed convinced that he had kept his word and was with them somewhere.
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I find it hard to take people dressed in crazy costumes and dressed in Qanon merch as serious revolutionaries.
Ok, there were a couple of hard core armed nutters in there, but the majority seemed like they didn't really have a plan or purpose.
If this is Trump's second civil war, it's off to a pretty pathetic start, but that's his trademark, pure unadulterated incompetancy.
It could have been worse. Much worse.
Then we have the guy who died of a heart attack after accidentally tasering himself while trying to steal a painting. Duck Dynasty revolutionaries.
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Chad Wolf, the acting chief of homeland security asked Trump to condemn the violence. Trump withdraws his nomination which effectively fires him.
There is a detail in all this that's not being given the attention it deserves if true. Trump resisted sending in the national guard for something like 2 hours. He only gave in when his family started pressuring him. Think about that. Trump watches an angry mob invade congress and... he maybe wants to see how it plays out?
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Trump actually gave a speech without claiming he won the rigged election. By a LOT.
He also admitted that he lost, without actually saying that. Almost a kinda sorta concession speech.
It was almost like watching a normal human being reading a speech someone else wrote from a teleprompter without any incoherent ranting.
Someone really put the fear of God into him.
Lets see how long it lasts.
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Of course he couldn't help lying, claiming he called the national guard right away. Pence did that after he refused.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1347334804052844550
This is... not a great concession speech but there it is.
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The comments are great! I hope Trump declassifies the aliens!
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Betsy DeVos resigned. How many rats will jump ship?
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Betsy DeVos resigned. How many rats will jump ship?
Thank goodness someone is finally thinking of the children.
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OMG, why hasn't this been on the news? https://twitter.com/RaquelNPhoto/status/1347010671087546368?s=20
Okay, apparently that guy was helping her get away https://twitter.com/joybenedict/status/1347342035368308737?s=20
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OMG, why hasn't this been on the news? https://twitter.com/RaquelNPhoto/status/1347010671087546368?s=20
Okay, apparently that guy was helping her get away https://twitter.com/joybenedict/status/1347342035368308737?s=20
I hope there is video of the whole incident so everyone who attacked her gets charged.
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Oh, the irony....
"Capitol rioters could face up to 10 years in prison under Trump monument executive order"
https://www.foxla.com/news/capitol-rioters-could-face-up-to-10-years-in-prison-under-trump-monument-executive-order
You get ten years, you get ten years... EVERYBODY gets ten years!
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Betsy DeVos resigned. How many rats will jump ship?
Full statement from the American Federation of Teachers on the resignation of Betsy DeVos:
"Good riddance."
I'm not kidding.
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He's not wrong and theres not much else to be said about this.
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https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/loss-uscp-colleague-brian-d-sicknick
Party of law and order huh? What a joke
At approximately 9:30 p.m. this evening (January 7, 2021), United States Capitol Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick passed away due to injuries sustained while on-duty.
Officer Sicknick was responding to the riots on Wednesday, January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol and was injured while physically engaging with protesters. He returned to his division office and collapsed. He was taken to a local hospital where he succumbed to his injuries. The death of Officer Sicknick will be investigated by the Metropolitan Police Department’s Homicide Branch, the USCP, and our federal partners.
Officer Sicknick joined the USCP in July 2008, and most recently served in the Department’s First Responder’s Unit.
The entire USCP Department expresses its deepest sympathies to Officer Sicknick’s family and friends on their loss, and mourns the loss of a friend and colleague.
We ask that Officer Sicknick’s family, and other USCP officers’ and their families’ privacy be respected during this time.
How does Trump walk away from this bloodshed he caused? How can the repugs still stand by this wannabe dictator?
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Looks like all the people involved in the riots are being fired by their employers. Those that tweeted, had pictures taken of or gave interviews of what they did to the media are being found out and busted.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/us-companies-swiftly-terminate-employees-found-in-footage-rioting-at-the-us-capitol-in-washington/news-story/4d3fb35702fd091883c45729d6438a26
Among them are West Virginian lawmaker and Republican Derrick Evans and former Republican state lawmaker Rick Saccone
Sucked in to all those pieces of human garbage! The police and FBI are also trolling through all the social media posts so hopefully many more arrests will be made.
Also
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/dominion-sues-trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-defamation-seeks-1-3-n1253464
Dominion Voting Systems, one of the biggest U.S. election equipment manufacturers and the subject of numerous incoherent conspiracy theories after the 2020 election, has sued lawyer Sidney Powell, who represented President Donald Trump’s attempts to overturn the election’s results, for defamation.
“Powell falsely claimed that Dominion had rigged the election, that Dominion was created in Venezuela to rig elections for Hugo Chávez, and that Dominion bribed Georgia officials for a no-bid contract,” the lawsuit states.
Powell didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
Dominion is requesting damages of more than $1.3 billion, saying it has spent millions on security for its employees and damage control to its reputation, and risks losses of future business.
A Dominion employee who had been subjected to targeted harassment from Trump supporters had previously personally sued Powell and others. . In December, Dominion sent cease-and-desist letters to some conservative media outlets that pushed those theories, including Fox News and OAN, which led to them walking back their claims.
Something tells me she wont have $1.3 billion dollars floating around to pay for that LOL
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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/07/capitol-hill-riots-doj-456178
One current Metro D.C. police officer said in a public Facebook post that off-duty police officers and members of the military, who were among the rioters, flashed their badges and I.D. cards as they attempted to overrun the building. “If these people can storm the Capitol building with no regard to punishment, you have to wonder how much they abuse their powers when they put on their uniforms,” the officer wrote.
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This winner from New Hamphire was there. He's a police chief. His department's Facebook page has one of their vehicles sitting next to an "All Lives Matter" sign they made.
https://www.reddit.com/r/newhampshire/comments/ksftqe/troy_nhs_chief_of_police_david_ellis_in/
https://www.facebook.com/troypolicedepartment/
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/media/josh-hawley-book-canceled/index.html
Josh Hawley's book deal has been cancelled over this. What a strange world where corporate America is trying to reign in shitheads when the government won't.
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At least the Kraken is getting Krakened:
Sidney Powell Sued By Dominion For $1.3 Billion Over Vote Fraud Claims
Former Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell was sued for defamation by the voting machine company she repeatedly placed at the center of a vast and unfounded election conspiracy that she claimed switched votes to favor President-elect Joe Biden.
The Lede
Dominion Voting Systems' $1.3 billion lawsuit against Powell could be the first of several against individuals and media companies accused of spreading conspiracy theories about Dominion to explain Trump's election loss.
Key Details
- Powell was let go from the Trump campaign after a November 19 press conference in which she said Dominion's voting systems were "certainly compromised by rogue actors, such as Iran and China."
- Powell also asserted that Dominion was connected to former Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez, who died in 2013.
- Powell has never provided any evidence to substantiate her claims.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/01/08/dominion-voting-sues-sidney-powell-for-defamation-over-election-conspiracy-theory/?sh=4d488f8220f2
Can't wait to see what's next for Giuliani & Wood.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/08/maga-internet-turns-on-trump-456490
Magaheads are reacting to Trump's concession very strangely. Apparently because Trump said a "new administration" and not a "Biden administration" will start on Jan 20 they think that Trump is somehow this new administration.
Interesting. But then Trump also tweeted that he's not going to attend the inauguration. Which if this theory is correct then it would be his own inauguration for his second term...
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They are also talking on Parler about going back on January 19th for another demonstration it seems, which, this should be a slam dunk for the feds to get in front of. If they can follow all those secret back channels where terrorists plot against the US, one would hope they can also follow what's being discussed right out in the open.
https://twitter.com/doerfler_helen/status/1347576708464070657
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After all the terrible shitty racist things Trump said about Obama, Obama still attended the inauguration. He still handed over the reins with dignity and grace. I don't know why Trump's tweet about not attending the inauguration has made me feel so fucking sad about all this, out everything that's happened, I don't know why this has upset me.
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Probably because of the words "dignity" and "grace". Two things that a leader of the most powerful country in the world needs but Trump has never had.
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I have mixed feelings about this. Trump being at the inauguration is an important endorsement of the legitimacy of Biden's administration. On the other hand does anybody seriously think that Trump wouldn't just shit up the entire event?
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After all the terrible shitty racist things Trump said about Obama, Obama still attended the inauguration. He still handed over the reins with dignity and grace. I don't know why Trump's tweet about not attending the inauguration has made me feel so fucking sad about all this, out everything that's happened, I don't know why this has upset me.
It makes me sad not that Trump is a pile of shit, but because 70 million people think his behavior is what they WANT in a President.
So depressing.
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Derek Evans has been arrested, and that guy who sat in Nancy Pelosi's chair and stole her mail has been arrested.
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I wonder if these people are surprised that they're being arrested or happy that they get to be martyrs for Trump.
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Hmmm... It appears that the plot surrounding Elizabeth from Knoxville thickens.
'Elizabeth from Knoxville' Rioter Armed with Onion May Be Evidence ... Capitol Invasion May Have Been Premeditated
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"Elizabeth from Knoxville" -- the woman who said she got maced storming the Capitol -- is being accused of using an onion to make it look like she was crying, but there could be a deeper, more ominous reason for the bulb -- that she and others were banking on violence at the Capitol.
Onions are an antidote to tear gas. They can relieve the burning sensation from the gas. It's been reported for several years that onions can be used for this purpose. So the question ... why was this woman armed with an onion?
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There are layers to this story. Like a... um... lasagna? Yeah, that's the word I was looking for.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1347614725140590593
Peaceful protest huh? So what's the zip ties for? Why the TAC gear?
Looks like he's on the way to being identified.
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All those officers just letting them through. One of them can even be heard saying "We disagree with it, but we respect it." Really?!
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Let's not jump to conclusions. Perhaps he felt that the best way to stop the steal was to redress all the low voltage cabling in the capitol. Perhaps even upgrade it to cat 6 or fiber.
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They suspended his acct https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump He was just locked out before, but you could still read it. It's gone now.
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THEY'RE SILENCING CONSERVATIVE VOICES!
Merely for trying to destroy democracy. Outrageous!
Next they'll suspend Gul Dukat's account!
https://twitter.com/realGulDukat?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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I wonder if he'll move to Parler.
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Apple is threatening to delete the Parler app.
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Apple is threatening to delete the Parler app.
Maybe they could all go back to 4chan. Sort of like having to move back home to your parents place after getting fired and evicted.
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I hope none of you is downwind from Twitter HQ.
I'd get my iodine tablets ready just in case.
Trump's face will be so red with rage it might be visible through all his fake tan makeup.
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They suspended his acct https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump He was just locked out before, but you could still read it. It's gone now.
I almost searched twitter for David Dennison.... Then I thought maybe John Barron? Any others I should be looking for?
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Chad Wolf, the acting chief of homeland security asked Trump to condemn the violence. Trump withdraws his nomination which effectively fires him.
You made that up. That's not a real name. Come on.
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Chad Wolf, the acting chief of homeland security asked Trump to condemn the violence. Trump withdraws his nomination which effectively fires him.
You made that up. That's not a real name. Come on.
I think they meant Chet.
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They suspended his acct https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump He was just locked out before, but you could still read it. It's gone now.
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Both Apple and Google are threatening to remove Parler from their app stores if they don't start moderating the extrema content.
Apple gave the 24 hours.
Since the whole point of Parler is to be an unmoderated right wing cesspool, I don't see them staying on either platform. Good riddance.
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But that was not the whole point of Parler.
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It's about time Facebook and Twitter were more heavy handed in moderating what's said on their platform too. And the trolls and bullies. The right to free speech doesn't entitle people to bully or spread misinformation. That goes for politicians too. They should not get any special status unless that status is holding them to account even more so than a pleb
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This is weird. Kimberly Trump thinks Pence is locked up in a military jail and his double counted the votes.
https://parler.com/profile/KimberlyTrump/posts
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But that was not the whole point of Parler.
Google has taken parler off the android play store.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/parler-google-play-removed/index.html?utm_content=2021-01-09T01%3A31%3A18&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twcnnbrk
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It's about time Facebook and Twitter were more heavy handed in moderating what's said on their platform too. And the trolls and bullies. The right to free speech doesn't entitle people to bully or spread misinformation. That goes for politicians too. They should not get any special status unless that status is holding them to account even more so than a pleb
Too bad Twitter is more heavy handed with politics they don't like than pedophiles.
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But that was not the whole point of Parler.
Google has taken parler off the android play store.
Poor Trump. How will he spread his hate and lies now? Poor folks will have to use a web browser to read it.
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But that was not the whole point of Parler.
Google has taken parler off the android play store.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/parler-google-play-removed/index.html?utm_content=2021-01-09T01%3A31%3A18&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twcnnbrk
I'm not sure how I feel about that. It seems like a bit much.
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But that was not the whole point of Parler.
Google has taken parler off the android play store.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/parler-google-play-removed/index.html?utm_content=2021-01-09T01%3A31%3A18&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twcnnbrk
I'm not sure how I feel about that. It seems like a bit much.
I don't think Trump even uses Parler.
I do not think these big tech companies should have so much power over speech. I don't like where this is all going.
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Android makes it incredibly easy to sideload apps though, so removing it from the Play store won't really stop people from still installing it. I don't think Google delisting it really introduces a speech issue. Apple delisting it certainly would be more impactful, since they make it basically impossible to sideload apps.
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But that was not the whole point of Parler.
Google has taken parler off the android play store.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/parler-google-play-removed/index.html?utm_content=2021-01-09T01%3A31%3A18&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twcnnbrk
I'm not sure how I feel about that. It seems like a bit much.
It really comes down to one thing Apple and Google will not allow on their platform.
Porn.
Facebook and Twitter outright ban it and have a strong moderation effort to keep it off their sites.
Parler doesn't. Until they change that, they are going to remain banned.
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Android makes it incredibly easy to sideload apps though, so removing it from the Play store won't really stop people from still installing it.
You're assuming that people who think it's a good idea to take selfies of themselves committing felonies and sedition are going to be bright enough to sideload an app. :P
And Apple doesn't even have that option.
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This is weird. Kimberly Trump thinks Pence is locked up in a military jail and his double counted the votes.
https://parler.com/profile/KimberlyTrump/posts
Also in that link:
Kimberly Trump · @KimberlyTrump
1 day ago · Impressions 2241
Look closely. This wasn't event my uncle on stage today. This was an ANTIFA look a like. He would never encourage the storming of the Senate. He could buy the whole senate building and turn it to condos!! False flag. #falseflag #senate #maga
BTW, who is Kimberly Trump? Can't seem to find much of anything about her outside of Parler.
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Android makes it incredibly easy to sideload apps though, so removing it from the Play store won't really stop people from still installing it.
You're assuming that people who think it's a good idea to take selfies of themselves committing felonies and sedition are going to be bright enough to sideload an app. :P
And Apple doesn't even have that option.
Anyone can follow easy instructions they find online from their other more tech-savvy seditious friends. Especially if they know it's their best option for talking about how awesome they are because they have white skin and bright red hats.
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But that was not the whole point of Parler.
Google has taken parler off the android play store.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/parler-google-play-removed/index.html?utm_content=2021-01-09T01%3A31%3A18&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twcnnbrk
I'm not sure how I feel about that. It seems like a bit much.
It really comes down to one thing Apple and Google will not allow on their platform.
Porn.
Facebook and Twitter outright ban it and have a strong moderation effort to keep it off their sites.
Parler doesn't. Until they change that, they are going to remain banned.
Twitter does not outright ban porn. They do not ban porn at all, and do not have strong moderation efforts against it. You have Twitter mixed up with Tumblr. The only reason Tumblr banned porn was because Apple pulled the Tumblr app. Apple pulled the Tumblr app because Tumblr was infested with child porn. If you do not believe me about Twitter, Google "Twitter porn" and then click on any of the links. Even PornHub has a porn clips acct.
Parler is not banned for porn.
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But that was not the whole point of Parler.
Google has taken parler off the android play store.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/parler-google-play-removed/index.html?utm_content=2021-01-09T01%3A31%3A18&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twcnnbrk
I'm not sure how I feel about that. It seems like a bit much.
It really comes down to one thing Apple and Google will not allow on their platform.
Porn.
Facebook and Twitter outright ban it and have a strong moderation effort to keep it off their sites.
Parler doesn't. Until they change that, they are going to remain banned.
Twitter does not outright ban porn. They do not ban porn at all, and do not have strong moderation efforts against it. You have Twitter mixed up with Tumblr. The only reason Tumblr banned porn was because Apple pulled the Tumblr app. Apple pulled the Tumblr app because Tumblr was infested with child porn. If you do not believe me about Twitter, Google "Twitter porn" and then click on any of the links. Even PornHub has a porn clips acct.
Parler is not banned for porn.
Yeah, I got those two mixed up.
It's a double standard for sure, but porn is certainly a part of why Parler is getting the ban. The threats of violence and hate speech is the other of course.
Parler is certainly more porn friendly than Twitter is. That likely has both tech giants looking at them with a more critical eye.
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BTW, who is Kimberly Trump? Can't seem to find much of anything about her outside of Parler.
Hmm... A bit of digging and it seems that "Kimberly Trump" is someone's alt.
This is her(?) profile picture:
(https://images.parler.com/fa17108ec27a423eab74f3183d6550fa_256)
But a reverse image search brings up this picture of Tiffany Trump.
(https://i0.wp.com/akahinews.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/trump-congratulates-daughter-tiffany-on-graduating-from-law-school-scaled.jpg?fit=400%2C242&ssl=1&w=640)
Someone seems to be trolling Parler pretty successfully.
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Ha, well that is just too funny then. I was looking at the posts in that profile and it was definitely on the loopy side. It's sort of easy to mistake "Kimberly Trump" saying crazy things for "Kimberly Guilfoyle" who is dating a Trump and says crazy things, and I definitely made that mental transposition as I was looking at it.
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But that was not the whole point of Parler.
Google has taken parler off the android play store.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/parler-google-play-removed/index.html?utm_content=2021-01-09T01%3A31%3A18&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twcnnbrk
I'm not sure how I feel about that. It seems like a bit much.
It really comes down to one thing Apple and Google will not allow on their platform.
Porn.
Facebook and Twitter outright ban it and have a strong moderation effort to keep it off their sites.
Parler doesn't. Until they change that, they are going to remain banned.
Twitter does not outright ban porn. They do not ban porn at all, and do not have strong moderation efforts against it. You have Twitter mixed up with Tumblr. The only reason Tumblr banned porn was because Apple pulled the Tumblr app. Apple pulled the Tumblr app because Tumblr was infested with child porn. If you do not believe me about Twitter, Google "Twitter porn" and then click on any of the links. Even PornHub has a porn clips acct.
Parler is not banned for porn.
Yeah, I got those two mixed up.
It's a double standard for sure, but porn is certainly a part of why Parler is getting the ban. The threats of violence and hate speech is the other of course.
Parler is certainly more porn friendly than Twitter is. That likely has both tech giants looking at them with a more critical eye.
I do not know why you think Parler is more porn friendly than Twitter, or that porn had anything to do with Apple and Google pulling their apps right now. Every article about it mentions inciting violence and the riots, none of them mention porn.
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But that was not the whole point of Parler.
Google has taken parler off the android play store.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/parler-google-play-removed/index.html?utm_content=2021-01-09T01%3A31%3A18&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twcnnbrk
I'm not sure how I feel about that. It seems like a bit much.
It really comes down to one thing Apple and Google will not allow on their platform.
Porn.
Facebook and Twitter outright ban it and have a strong moderation effort to keep it off their sites.
Parler doesn't. Until they change that, they are going to remain banned.
Twitter does not outright ban porn. They do not ban porn at all, and do not have strong moderation efforts against it. You have Twitter mixed up with Tumblr. The only reason Tumblr banned porn was because Apple pulled the Tumblr app. Apple pulled the Tumblr app because Tumblr was infested with child porn. If you do not believe me about Twitter, Google "Twitter porn" and then click on any of the links. Even PornHub has a porn clips acct.
Parler is not banned for porn.
Yeah, I got those two mixed up.
It's a double standard for sure, but porn is certainly a part of why Parler is getting the ban. The threats of violence and hate speech is the other of course.
Parler is certainly more porn friendly than Twitter is. That likely has both tech giants looking at them with a more critical eye.
I do not know why you think Parler is more porn friendly than Twitter, or that porn had anything to do with Apple and Google pulling their apps right now. Every article about it mentions inciting violence and the riots, none of them mention porn.
Parler is more porn friendly because Twitter requires that porn is marked as adult so users can block it. Parler doesn't, and so it's harder to avoid on there.
Porn is a huge deal with both Apple and Google, there is no way they aren't taking that into consideration. Of course the news is focused on the riots, but being porn friendly isn't doing Parler any favors.
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Ha, well that is just too funny then. I was looking at the posts in that profile and it was definitely on the loopy side. It's sort of easy to mistake "Kimberly Trump" saying crazy things for "Kimberly Guilfoyle" who is dating a Trump and says crazy things, and I definitely made that mental transposition as I was looking at it.
Yeah, I was wondering what provision in the constitution says that they can get a do-over if they can get 2 million names.
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But that was not the whole point of Parler.
Google has taken parler off the android play store.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/parler-google-play-removed/index.html?utm_content=2021-01-09T01%3A31%3A18&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twcnnbrk
I'm not sure how I feel about that. It seems like a bit much.
I don't think Trump even uses Parler.
I do not think these big tech companies should have so much power over speech. I don't like where this is all going.
I for one see social media sites as private entities. They are no different than a TV station. They can and should be able to choose what is on their platform. The problem is that people are using it more than anything else to express themselves and see others express themselves. But if you ignore it, you just go back to a time before they existed.
Like, did the non-existence of twitter mean we had less freedom of speech?
All twitter and facebook does is let people find likeminded views easier. Which, honestly, may part of the problem.
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It's about time Facebook and Twitter were more heavy handed in moderating what's said on their platform too. And the trolls and bullies. The right to free speech doesn't entitle people to bully or spread misinformation. That goes for politicians too. They should not get any special status unless that status is holding them to account even more so than a pleb
It's interesting the things you support now... The baby steps that lead to terrible things of the future... The shifter of a few years ago would have some serious issues with the current shifter.
It's your right to be as you are, and I appreciate that. Just noticing the difference and question it with respect.
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Fuck twitter and fuck facebook for banning trump. Btw the donald trump subreddit also got banned, and parler will get banned, soon.
I find it quite sad that nowdays people with different political views are getting banned and people are all okay with it. I also noticed that many people condemining the capitol-rioters are very extreme themselves, e.g. asking for life long sentences or death penalty for every one of the rioters.
Anyway let's be honest here, for twitter and facecrap this was only a PR-stunt because trump is pretty much at the end of his term. They'd never have done this after e.g. 2 years of donald trump as a president, because they would have lost way too much traffic then. Fucking hypocrites.
And to the people saying 'bUt thEy ArE pRivAte cOmpaNies, thEy caN bAn wHoEver tHeY wAnT' - well yes perhaps they are. But at this point, twitter and youtube are pretty much monopolies in their field. Banning a troll obviously is okay, but banning someone 'big' means taking their ability to speak to milions of people. This can have a major influence on public opinion, on elections etc. It is very obviously a breach of freedom of speech. It might be legal as of today (is it even?) but I'm sure this will change.
And to the Lorddave saying 'Like, did the non-existence of twitter mean we had less freedom of speech?' are you really that stupid or just trolling? It's obviously all relative. If person a and b both have the same means of reaching people then that's okay, but if only one of the person has access to reaching milions of people, that is a BIG problem.
It's also interesting how 5 people dying at the protests is such a HUUUUUUGE deal, yet 40000-5000 people per day due to covid is like 'meh, who cares'.
I guess it's true that a few people dying is a tragedy, yet thousands of people dying is merely a statistic.
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It's about time Facebook and Twitter were more heavy handed in moderating what's said on their platform too. And the trolls and bullies. The right to free speech doesn't entitle people to bully or spread misinformation. That goes for politicians too. They should not get any special status unless that status is holding them to account even more so than a pleb
It's interesting the things you support now... The baby steps that lead to terrible things of the future... The shifter of a few years ago would have some serious issues with the current shifter.
It's your right to be as you are, and I appreciate that. Just noticing the difference and question it with respect.
I have always loathed social media and blame the decoupling of the fabric and cohesion of society in a large part on them. It gives too much vocal authority to trolls and dimwits and dilutes the worlds truth with so much falsehoods and shit
When Trump was elected I was happy 'the establishment' realised it was not a sure thing and maybe a 'regular guy' who had lots of his own money (or could get it) wouldn't need to be beholden to sponsors who got him there
But over time his constant lies, nepotism, corruption and utter incompetence along with the disgusting way he talks about his opponents, his own military, people who dont vote for him etc it wore my hood will I had for him
Is Joe Biden the guy who will bring about a utopia, hell no. But let's be honest. He's not a socialist and he's not 'far left'. He at least can bring some needed dignity to the office once again and put America back in the good books of its allies. Trump soured relations with many of them while he loved up to people like Putin and Kim Jong Un.
For example, I don't agree with how Mitch McConnell runs things (blocking for blocking sake) but at least he knows how to speak the right words and eloquently (even if they are hollow as he doesn't back them up with action). Like how he did after the siege on the capitol
I count myself as left on done things, a little right on others. In the world of politics I never give blind trust or loyalty. It had to be earned. And then it has to be worked on to keep it. I'll never rust on go along with whatever thd leader say. For example if I was a republican, I'd sure as shit wear a mask. I'd never buy into this 'stolen' election nonsense either. If the republicans actually took action on Trump I'd consider them redeemable. But even after this
Mike Pence, who had people prepared to execute him and hang him on a tree outside the building as a 'warning' to traitors, still backs Trump. It is mind boggling. Giving a free pass to a man who put pressure on officials to 'find' extra votes (rigging the election himself!) and when that failed he then riled up and incited a full blown insurrection using Americans he radicalised and led to the deaths of 5 people including 1 police officer. While he was having a viewing party watching it all unfold and denying the national guard to restore order
Trump is a contemptible fuck wit and this is his legacy now. He has polarised Americans so much he has made it a far more dangerous place to live. Americans pitted against fellow Americans based on the colour on who they vote for.
I'll not stand up or back a party which enables and backs a strongman dictator wannabe who is responsible for an insurrection and bloodshed. Remember the faux outrage to Hillary about Benghazi? These deaths are a direct result of Trumps sedition. Where is the republican voter outrage?
Seriously, Trump is the worst president in all of Americas history. The worst, without question. Republicans should just dump his arse and say 'he is not one of us!'
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Fuck twitter and fuck facebook for banning trump. Btw the donald trump subreddit also got banned, and parler will get banned, soon.
I find it quite sad that nowdays people with different political views are getting banned and people are all okay with it. I also noticed that many people condemining the capitol-rioters are very extreme themselves, e.g. asking for life long sentences or death penalty for every one of the rioters.
Anyway let's be honest here, for twitter and facecrap this was only a PR-stunt because trump is pretty much at the end of his term. They'd never have done this after e.g. 2 years of donald trump as a president, because they would have lost way too much traffic then. Fucking hypocrites.
And to the people saying 'bUt thEy ArE pRivAte cOmpaNies, thEy caN bAn wHoEver tHeY wAnT' - well yes perhaps they are. But at this point, twitter and youtube are pretty much monopolies in their field. Banning a troll obviously is okay, but banning someone 'big' means taking their ability to speak to milions of people. This can have a major influence on public opinion, on elections etc. It is very obviously a breach of freedom of speech. It might be legal as of today (is it even?) but I'm sure this will change.
And to the Lorddave saying 'Like, did the non-existence of twitter mean we had less freedom of speech?' are you really that stupid or just trolling? It's obviously all relative. If person a and b both have the same means of reaching people then that's okay, but if only one of the person has access to reaching milions of people, that is a BIG problem.
It's also interesting how 5 people dying at the protests is such a HUUUUUUGE deal, yet 40000-5000 people per day due to covid is like 'meh, who cares'.
I guess it's true that a few people dying is a tragedy, yet thousands of people dying is merely a statistic.
People with different political views do not get banned. Don't fall for the BS. People who incite violence or glorify violence do instead.
Trump got a free pass to do both for far too long. It's about time these companies stood up to that shit
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Perhaps I am out of the loop, but I don't think trump ever asked his supporters to attack the capitol or be violent?
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Perhaps I am out of the loop, but I don't think trump ever asked his supporters to attack the capitol or be violent?
You are indeed quite out of the loop.
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Perhaps I am out of the loop, but I don't think trump ever asked his supporters to attack the capitol or be violent?
Not directly, sure. But he's been making them madder and madder.
If I were to poke you over and over and over, poking you no matter where you go or what you do, just non-stop poking... Whose fault would it be if you punched me?
Answer: Mine. Humans are not robots and we do have limits. Trump is literally saying that the government is against him and the people. The patriots. He's not telling them to invade and kill, but he's making sure they want to.
Also, lets not forget: Trump has far more ways to reach millions than you and me. Obama barely used twitter yet could spread his messages. Trump just chose Twitter for whatever reason. But he is far from silenced. He has a god damn press pool following him around. He could, at any moment, make a speech and tell his people to march on the supreme court and it would be on international news.
So while he can't directly speak to 88 million people every thought in his head, he's not silenced.
Trump got banned from yelling on the street corner, not the public square.
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It's hilarious watching Trump try and figure out how to post on Parler.
So far he posted the same thing three times in a row.
He's posting screenshots of him being quoted.
I suspect the guy can't type more than a single sentence so he's reduced to this.
He looks like a moron even more on Parler.
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It's hilarious watching Trump try and figure out how to post on Parler.
So far he posted the same thing three times in a row.
He's posting screenshots of him being quoted.
I suspect the guy can't type more than a single sentence so he's reduced to this.
He looks like a moron even more on Parler.
Are you sure that's even Trump? There's several accounts with his name and it looks like someone just masquerading as Trump.
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It's hilarious watching Trump try and figure out how to post on Parler.
So far he posted the same thing three times in a row.
He's posting screenshots of him being quoted.
I suspect the guy can't type more than a single sentence so he's reduced to this.
He looks like a moron even more on Parler.
Are you sure that's even Trump? There's several accounts with his name and it looks like someone just masquerading as Trump.
Good point, it's hard to tell.
I found "DonaldTrump2024MAGA" but who knows. The site sucks, and is overloaded from all the MAGA tards flocking there. Good riddance.
Makes it even funnier. :D
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Fuck twitter and fuck facebook for banning trump. Btw the donald trump subreddit also got banned, and parler will get banned, soon.
I find it quite sad that nowdays people with different political views are getting banned and people are all okay with it. I also noticed that many people condemining the capitol-rioters are very extreme themselves, e.g. asking for life long sentences or death penalty for every one of the rioters.
Anyway let's be honest here, for twitter and facecrap this was only a PR-stunt because trump is pretty much at the end of his term. They'd never have done this after e.g. 2 years of donald trump as a president, because they would have lost way too much traffic then. Fucking hypocrites.
And to the people saying 'bUt thEy ArE pRivAte cOmpaNies, thEy caN bAn wHoEver tHeY wAnT' - well yes perhaps they are. But at this point, twitter and youtube are pretty much monopolies in their field. Banning a troll obviously is okay, but banning someone 'big' means taking their ability to speak to milions of people. This can have a major influence on public opinion, on elections etc. It is very obviously a breach of freedom of speech. It might be legal as of today (is it even?) but I'm sure this will change.
And to the Lorddave saying 'Like, did the non-existence of twitter mean we had less freedom of speech?' are you really that stupid or just trolling? It's obviously all relative. If person a and b both have the same means of reaching people then that's okay, but if only one of the person has access to reaching milions of people, that is a BIG problem.
It's also interesting how 5 people dying at the protests is such a HUUUUUUGE deal, yet 40000-5000 people per day due to covid is like 'meh, who cares'.
I guess it's true that a few people dying is a tragedy, yet thousands of people dying is merely a statistic.
People with different political views do not get banned. Don't fall for the BS. People who incite violence or glorify violence do instead.
Trump got a free pass to do both for far too long. It's about time these companies stood up to that shit
They do actually ban people for their political views.
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But that was not the whole point of Parler.
Google has taken parler off the android play store.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/parler-google-play-removed/index.html?utm_content=2021-01-09T01%3A31%3A18&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twcnnbrk
I'm not sure how I feel about that. It seems like a bit much.
It really comes down to one thing Apple and Google will not allow on their platform.
Porn.
Facebook and Twitter outright ban it and have a strong moderation effort to keep it off their sites.
Parler doesn't. Until they change that, they are going to remain banned.
Twitter does not outright ban porn. They do not ban porn at all, and do not have strong moderation efforts against it. You have Twitter mixed up with Tumblr. The only reason Tumblr banned porn was because Apple pulled the Tumblr app. Apple pulled the Tumblr app because Tumblr was infested with child porn. If you do not believe me about Twitter, Google "Twitter porn" and then click on any of the links. Even PornHub has a porn clips acct.
Parler is not banned for porn.
Yeah, I got those two mixed up.
It's a double standard for sure, but porn is certainly a part of why Parler is getting the ban. The threats of violence and hate speech is the other of course.
Parler is certainly more porn friendly than Twitter is. That likely has both tech giants looking at them with a more critical eye.
I do not know why you think Parler is more porn friendly than Twitter, or that porn had anything to do with Apple and Google pulling their apps right now. Every article about it mentions inciting violence and the riots, none of them mention porn.
Parler is more porn friendly because Twitter requires that porn is marked as adult so users can block it. Parler doesn't, and so it's harder to avoid on there.
Porn is a huge deal with both Apple and Google, there is no way they aren't taking that into consideration. Of course the news is focused on the riots, but being porn friendly isn't doing Parler any favors.
I have no idea where you get your information from, but Parler and Twitter have the same guidelines for porn. Twitter has thousands of porn accts, and are extremely porn friendly! Apple cares about porn on its apps, and always have. You'll have to show me some evidence that Google has ever cared about porn.
Parler: 3.Nudity and Pornography Images, videos, depictions or descriptions of adult nudity or sex are permitted, so long as they are designated as “sensitive” (NSFW). Neither cover images nor profile pictures(nor usernames)can be designated as “sensitive,”and so may not contain these types of images(or descriptions).
Twitter: You can share graphic violence and consensually produced adult content within your Tweets, provided that you mark this media as sensitive.
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Perhaps I am out of the loop, but I don't think trump ever asked his supporters to attack the capitol or be violent?
Obviously you weren't at the rally earlier that day.
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Perhaps I am out of the loop, but I don't think trump ever asked his supporters to attack the capitol or be violent?
Obviously you weren't at the rally earlier that day.
do you have a video from that rally?
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Perhaps I am out of the loop, but I don't think trump ever asked his supporters to attack the capitol or be violent?
Obviously you weren't at the rally earlier that day.
do you have a video from that rally?
Lets just skip this whole dance of yours.
No Trump didn't literally say the words "Murder police and rise up in armed insurrection and violently revolt!"
Yes he lied to his supporters that they could Win on the 6th if they were strong and went to the capital and whipped them into a frenzy with months of screaming that their votes were stolen and their victory taken from them.
He is still completely to blame.
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Perhaps I am out of the loop, but I don't think trump ever asked his supporters to attack the capitol or be violent?
Obviously you weren't at the rally earlier that day.
do you have a video from that rally?
Here's the whole thing:
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CNN: Extremists intensify calls for violence ahead of Inauguration Day.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/us/online-extremism-inauguration-capitol-invs/index.html
(CNN)"Trump or war. Today. That simple."
"If you don't know how to shoot: You need to learn. NOW."
"we will storm the government buildings, kill cops, kill security guards, kill federal employees and agents, and demand a recount."
Great. A sequel. This threat seems poorly thought out. After they murder a bunch of cops and force a recount what happens when Joe Biden still wins? Do they just go ahead?
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Fuck twitter and fuck facebook for banning trump. Btw the donald trump subreddit also got banned, and parler will get banned, soon.
I find it quite sad that nowdays people with different political views are getting banned and people are all okay with it. I also noticed that many people condemining the capitol-rioters are very extreme themselves, e.g. asking for life long sentences or death penalty for every one of the rioters.
Anyway let's be honest here, for twitter and facecrap this was only a PR-stunt because trump is pretty much at the end of his term. They'd never have done this after e.g. 2 years of donald trump as a president, because they would have lost way too much traffic then. Fucking hypocrites.
And to the people saying 'bUt thEy ArE pRivAte cOmpaNies, thEy caN bAn wHoEver tHeY wAnT' - well yes perhaps they are. But at this point, twitter and youtube are pretty much monopolies in their field. Banning a troll obviously is okay, but banning someone 'big' means taking their ability to speak to milions of people. This can have a major influence on public opinion, on elections etc. It is very obviously a breach of freedom of speech. It might be legal as of today (is it even?) but I'm sure this will change.
And to the Lorddave saying 'Like, did the non-existence of twitter mean we had less freedom of speech?' are you really that stupid or just trolling? It's obviously all relative. If person a and b both have the same means of reaching people then that's okay, but if only one of the person has access to reaching milions of people, that is a BIG problem.
It's also interesting how 5 people dying at the protests is such a HUUUUUUGE deal, yet 40000-5000 people per day due to covid is like 'meh, who cares'.
I guess it's true that a few people dying is a tragedy, yet thousands of people dying is merely a statistic.
Trump’s freedom of speech? LOL.
He’s been POTUS for the last 4 years. The most powerful office in the world. He’s got the whole house press team to get his views across. When he’s called presidential addresses, the media have been obligated to report them in full. His opinions haven’t just been heard, they’ve been written into law,, he’s set the country’s foreign policy, he made and broken international treaties, he’s authorized military action, he’s got his mates let out jail, changed the tax system to work in favour, etc, etc, etc, etc.
These no “Person B” in this scenario who somehow has more political influence just because they have an active Facebook account.
What a joke.
Facebook and Twitter just decided they wouldn’t facilitate his deranged lies anymore. Trump never needed them in the first place, and frankly they should never been in the picture at all.
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I find it quite sad that nowdays people with different political views are getting banned and people are all okay with it.
If you think encouraging armed rebellion is just a different political view, I don't know what to tell you.
Fuck Trump and his enablers.
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CNN: Extremists intensify calls for violence ahead of Inauguration Day.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/us/online-extremism-inauguration-capitol-invs/index.html
(CNN)"Trump or war. Today. That simple."
"If you don't know how to shoot: You need to learn. NOW."
"we will storm the government buildings, kill cops, kill security guards, kill federal employees and agents, and demand a recount."
Great. A sequel. This threat seems poorly thought out. After they murder a bunch of cops and force a recount what happens when Joe Biden still wins? Do they just go ahead?
I've been thinking about what might happen between now and the 20th. This is going to be a nail biter.
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Perhaps I am out of the loop, but I don't think trump ever asked his supporters to attack the capitol or be violent?
Obviously you weren't at the rally earlier that day.
do you have a video from that rally?
Here's the whole thing:
Watched some of it now, he only says he expect his followers to walk over to the capitol peacfully to show their patrotism.
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Watched some of it now, he only says he expect his followers to walk over to the capitol peacfully to show their patrotism.
You really, really, really need to do your song and dance here, don't you?
Go ahead, play dumb.
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I think there's going to be a vote to impeach this Monday. It looks like it's more than just threats at this point.
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Watched some of it now, he only says he expect his followers to walk over to the capitol peacfully to show their patrotism.
You really, really, really need to do your song and dance here, don't you?
Go ahead, play dumb.
And despite the very clear threats and risk to the lives of the senators inside including his own VP, he refused to call the national guard to restore order instead he was having a viewing 'party'. He incited this. He wanted them to succeed.
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(https://64.media.tumblr.com/2c11b3864e8a70dc14e8f99e954ac9f4/881ad319b9bf986c-f5/s1280x1920/73bec773e05e654acbf62f7e36986a0bd43eb35e.jpg)
Now we'll never know what he pins! :'(
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(https://64.media.tumblr.com/2c11b3864e8a70dc14e8f99e954ac9f4/881ad319b9bf986c-f5/s1280x1920/73bec773e05e654acbf62f7e36986a0bd43eb35e.jpg)
Now we'll never know what he pins! :'(
Aw man, twitch too? Now we won't be able to follow his Minecraft streams
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Spotify?
I guess he'll need to start up his Only Fans account.
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Spotify?
I guess he'll need to start up his Only Fans account.
Trump the e-thot. Time to simp, trumpsters!
Will he sell his bath water too?
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I personallly think tfes should be responsible and also officially ban trump or allow him only in angry ranting. Also that should be made public on twitter, would be goood pr for tfes.
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I'm surprised Tumblr hasn't also signaled their virtue.
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Spotify?
I guess he'll need to start up his Only Fans account.
I'm sure he would make Ivanka and Tiffany join instead. He could probably use the extra income.
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Could be a good way to increase our traffic. Get trump in on the discussion here.
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https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/01/capitol-riot-senior-trump-official-calls-him-a-fascist.html
archive if you want to read past the paywall https://archive.is/daIjD
This adviser, who spoke to Trump on Wednesday amid the siege, said Trump watched the events on television intently. CNN reported that he was so excited by the action, it “freaked out” some staffers around him. The adviser told me that Trump expressed disgust on aesthetic grounds over how “low class” his supporters looked. “He doesn’t like low-class things,” the adviser said, explaining that Trump had a similar reaction over the summer to a video of Brad Parscale, his former campaign manager, shirtless and drinking a beer in his driveway during a mental-health emergency in which police tackled him and seized his weapons. “He kept mentioning, ‘Oh, did you see him in his beer shirt?’ He was annoyed. To him, it’s just low class, in other words.”
Apparently he's offering everyone pardons, too!
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Bye Bye Parler...
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/01/amazon-cuts-off-parlers-web-hosting-following-apple-google-bans/?utm_brand=arstechnica&utm_source=twitter&utm_social-type=owned&utm_medium=social
Of course they will come back with a new hosting service, probably in Moscow.
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Holy shit. Trump's getting the storm front treatment.
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Spotify?
I guess he'll need to start up his Only Fans account.
Trump the e-thot. Time to simp, trumpsters!
Will he sell his bath water too?
Supporters already did.
https://campaignlegal.org/update/trump-campaign-shell-corporation-funneled-617-million-according-reporting-based-clc
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If you want a pardon, just send us your details and what crime you've committed.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErVF0A6XEAAUz2W?format=jpg&name=large)
I congratulate the FBI for their innovative approach to law enforcement.
I wonder how many suckers they managed to get signed up.
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If you want a pardon, just send us your details and what crime you've committed.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErVF0A6XEAAUz2W?format=jpg&name=large)
I congratulate the FBI for their innovative approach to law enforcement.
I wonder how many suckers they managed to get signed up.
I read that and thought 'no way that's legit... They just want everyone to incriminate themselves' lol
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I read that and thought 'no way that's legit... They just want everyone to incriminate themselves' lol
No, no. That's completely legit. You can't pardon an innocent person and you have to provide specific charges to pardon. They just want to make sure that they cross their 'i's and dot their 't's so that the pardons will hold up if challenged.
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Remember, ALL JOURNALISTS are soft targets, and are fair game in the coming revolution! Don't be afraid to take reporters down by any means neccesary!
Some choice commentary on Parlour. Presumably acceptable by its guidelines. Trump will not condem this. More likely to call him a patriot and pardon him.
People want to bitch this site gets taken down?
So the party of 'law and order' now considers journalists a target in their upcoming 'revolution'
The downfall of Trumps and the repugnican party continues.....
I highly recommend Trump watch the movie 'Downfall'
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It's a scary thing to think that we have to treat trump supports online the same we treat terrorists.
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Remember, ALL JOURNALISTS are soft targets, and are fair game in the coming revolution! Don't be afraid to take reporters down by any means neccesary!
Some choice commentary on Parlour. Presumably acceptable by its guidelines. Trump will not condem this. More likely to call him a patriot and pardon him.
People want to bitch this site gets taken down?
So the party of 'law and order' now considers journalists a target in their upcoming 'revolution'
The downfall of Trumps and the repugnican party continues.....
I highly recommend Trump watch the movie 'Downfall'
Well you know...
One law ...
(https://media.tenor.com/images/1a4f844009a817d1120188b3b4a94ccb/tenor.gif)
Trumps all others.
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I watched his 'save america ralley' a bit further, guy sounds like american hitler. No joke, he's got a very similar rhetoric, accentuation and a lot of screaming, just like the hitler speeches I have heared.
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I read that and thought 'no way that's legit... They just want everyone to incriminate themselves' lol
No, no. That's completely legit. You can't pardon an innocent person and you have to provide specific charges to pardon. They just want to make sure that they cross their 'i's and dot their 't's so that the pardons will hold up if challenged.
Don't bother trying to keep up the pretense that this is real.
Anyone dumb enough to think armed rebellion is a good idea is going to fall for this no matter how much they are warned.
Still, funny as hell.
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This is a database of all the charges filed so far from the Capitol riots https://extremism.gwu.edu/Capitol-Hill-Cases
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I read that and thought 'no way that's legit... They just want everyone to incriminate themselves' lol
No, no. That's completely legit. You can't pardon an innocent person and you have to provide specific charges to pardon. They just want to make sure that they cross their 'i's and dot their 't's so that the pardons will hold up if challenged.
Don't bother trying to keep up the pretense that this is real.
Anyone dumb enough to think armed rebellion is a good idea is going to fall for this no matter how much they are warned.
I don't know about that. I seem to recall hearing about a bunch of armed thugs back in 1775...
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I read that and thought 'no way that's legit... They just want everyone to incriminate themselves' lol
No, no. That's completely legit. You can't pardon an innocent person and you have to provide specific charges to pardon. They just want to make sure that they cross their 'i's and dot their 't's so that the pardons will hold up if challenged.
Don't bother trying to keep up the pretense that this is real.
Anyone dumb enough to think armed rebellion is a good idea is going to fall for this no matter how much they are warned.
I don't know about that. I seem to recall hearing about a bunch of armed thugs back in 1775...
Yeah, I should have specified armed rebellion against your own government because you believed the lies the President told you.
People who think rushing into the capital building with weapons to smash and loot and try and kidnap and string up people you voted for is a good idea... but in all honesty since they were let in, then let back out, most of them will get away with it.
So sure, not a terrible idea after all for them. Sucks for the rest of us though.
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One person's insurrectionist is another person's patriot. It's all a matter of perspective.
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I read that and thought 'no way that's legit... They just want everyone to incriminate themselves' lol
No, no. That's completely legit. You can't pardon an innocent person and you have to provide specific charges to pardon. They just want to make sure that they cross their 'i's and dot their 't's so that the pardons will hold up if challenged.
Don't bother trying to keep up the pretense that this is real.
Anyone dumb enough to think armed rebellion is a good idea is going to fall for this no matter how much they are warned.
I don't know about that. I seem to recall hearing about a bunch of armed thugs back in 1775...
Yeah, I should have specified armed rebellion against your own government because you believed the lies the President told you.
People who think rushing into the capital building with weapons to smash and loot and try and kidnap and string up people you voted for is a good idea... but in all honesty since they were let in, then let back out, most of them will get away with it.
So sure, not a terrible idea after all for them. Sucks for the rest of us though.
Alot are being arrested sooo...
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I read that and thought 'no way that's legit... They just want everyone to incriminate themselves' lol
No, no. That's completely legit. You can't pardon an innocent person and you have to provide specific charges to pardon. They just want to make sure that they cross their 'i's and dot their 't's so that the pardons will hold up if challenged.
Don't bother trying to keep up the pretense that this is real.
Anyone dumb enough to think armed rebellion is a good idea is going to fall for this no matter how much they are warned.
I don't know about that. I seem to recall hearing about a bunch of armed thugs back in 1775...
Yeah, I should have specified armed rebellion against your own government because you believed the lies the President told you.
People who think rushing into the capital building with weapons to smash and loot and try and kidnap and string up people you voted for is a good idea... but in all honesty since they were let in, then let back out, most of them will get away with it.
So sure, not a terrible idea after all for them. Sucks for the rest of us though.
Alot are being arrested sooo...
Even a hundred arrests is tiny compared to how many they just let walk out of the capitol building, after letting them walk in.
The FBI is going after them since the capitol police were unwilling to do their jobs.
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You say they were unwilling, but they were outnumbered. https://twitter.com/JanNWolfe/status/1348327073773985802?s=20
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I'm keeping track of the general reaction on Fox News. This seems to have taken them off guard. But they're quickly reassembling their propaganda machine. They agree that trying to overthrow democracy is bad but twitter banning the people that keep trying to overthrow democracy is at least as much of a problem.
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You say they were unwilling, but they were outnumbered. https://twitter.com/JanNWolfe/status/1348327073773985802?s=20
Have you watched the videos where they are waving people in, and then tell the reporter they can't enter the building?
Taking selfies?
Have you ever known a police officer to give up control? They are trained HARD to never, ever give up control under any circumstances. Even when they are dead wrong they never do that. They aren't just going to back down because there are more people there, that happens in pretty much every protest. They didn't back down during the BLM marches.
Their behavior wasn't as bad as the insurrectionists, but it was a far cry from what they did to peaceful left-wing protesters that were in Trumps way for his photo op, or the George Floyd protests. Remember this?
I'm wondering who it was that made the decision to not put a show of force for what was known to be coming well ahead of time.
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210106172554-03-blm-george-floyd-protests-file-exlarge-169.jpg)
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And that image was at the Lincoln Memorial. Just a big hunk of granite and marble. No legislative body barricaded up inside with boxes of confirmed presidential electoral ballots designating who will be the leader of the free world for the next 4 years...
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You say they were unwilling, but they were outnumbered. https://twitter.com/JanNWolfe/status/1348327073773985802?s=20
Have you watched the videos where they are waving people in, and then tell the reporter they can't enter the building?
Taking selfies?
Have you ever known a police officer to give up control? They are trained HARD to never, ever give up control under any circumstances. Even when they are dead wrong they never do that. They aren't just going to back down because there are more people there, that happens in pretty much every protest. They didn't back down during the BLM marches.
Their behavior wasn't as bad as the insurrectionists, but it was a far cry from what they did to peaceful left-wing protesters that were in Trumps way for his photo op, or the George Floyd protests. Remember this?
I'm wondering who it was that made the decision to not put a show of force for what was known to be coming well ahead of time.
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210106172554-03-blm-george-floyd-protests-file-exlarge-169.jpg)
During a BLM protest the police angrily pushed over an old man sending him to hospital
If you look at the commentary online which including things like 'heads on pikes' before this insurrection, (which authorities would have been well aware of) the treat level should have been treated as highly as if this was a violent jihadi group
People in charge wanted this because they are clearly sympathetic to Trump and believe like so many other repug morons that this election was 'stolen'.
It's quite telling that Trump has yet to contact the family of the fallen police officer or order the flag flown at half mast (as is protocol) leaving it to Nancy Pelosi to do so
Trump and the people tasked with organising security should be charged as accessories to his death
I'm sure moving forward now we have a compotent government in charge that physical security will be put in place there so that it can't be stormed by violent terrorists again
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Interesting assessment:
The Police’s Tepid Response To The Capitol Breach Wasn’t An Aberration
Authorities are more than twice as likely to break up a left-wing protest than a right-wing protest.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polices-tepid-response-to-the-capitol-breach-wasnt-an-aberration/
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Interesting assessment:
The Police’s Tepid Response To The Capitol Breach Wasn’t An Aberration
Authorities are more than twice as likely to break up a left-wing protest than a right-wing protest.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polices-tepid-response-to-the-capitol-breach-wasnt-an-aberration/
Not a surprise and no secret.
The police have been going after the left since the right started the "War on Drugs" to blunt the movements of the 60s and 70s. This is just the end result of that.
Anyone who has been involved in protests knows full well how it will go down once the police show up.
Don't get me wrong, I'm against any violent protest and those that throw rocks or bottles or set fires and break windows should be arrested. But I've watched cops just walk up to protestors who were just standing there and pepper spray them in the face for no reason. Not to mention the screaming, pushing, clubbing and everything else done to peaceful protesters.
Defund the police? No. Reform them? Hell yes. It's going to take years and a lot of work to clear out the whole "the public are enemy combatants" mentality. Fire the entire leadership and start over if that's what it takes.
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Interesting assessment:
The Police’s Tepid Response To The Capitol Breach Wasn’t An Aberration
Authorities are more than twice as likely to break up a left-wing protest than a right-wing protest.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polices-tepid-response-to-the-capitol-breach-wasnt-an-aberration/
Because republicu*ts are usually protesting armed.
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Interesting assessment:
The Police’s Tepid Response To The Capitol Breach Wasn’t An Aberration
Authorities are more than twice as likely to break up a left-wing protest than a right-wing protest.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polices-tepid-response-to-the-capitol-breach-wasnt-an-aberration/
Because republicu*ts are usually protesting armed.
From someone who has been involved in situations where guns were in play, let me tell you the cops do NOT fuck around if they think you are a threat.
They let right wingers walk around with guns because they feel they are on the same side. If a left wing group carried guns it would NOT end well.
If they really were afraid of a mob with guns, they are not going to just stand around and let them do whatever. Not in a million years.
The guns are not the issue. It's the cops being buddy buddy with right wing terrorists that is the problem.
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Defund the police? No. Reform them? Hell yes. It's going to take years and a lot of work to clear out the whole "the public are enemy combatants" mentality. Fire the entire leadership and start over if that's what it takes.
Defunding them is a good idea. It's not about removing police from the streets. It's about putting money into other services better equipped to deal with situations so police aren't bogged down doing the work that belongs to what should be other departments.
So if someone is having a mental breakdown, police aren't the first responders with guns drawn. Stray dog? Not the polices problem.
Police should be out there dealing with only police work. Not everything going wrong. Defunding the police would make the police better - not worse.
Shock jocks like that Tucker moron will deliberately lie about it though. That POS lives by spreading fear and hatred.
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You say they were unwilling, but they were outnumbered. https://twitter.com/JanNWolfe/status/1348327073773985802?s=20
Have you watched the videos where they are waving people in, and then tell the reporter they can't enter the building?
Taking selfies?
Have you ever known a police officer to give up control? They are trained HARD to never, ever give up control under any circumstances. Even when they are dead wrong they never do that. They aren't just going to back down because there are more people there, that happens in pretty much every protest. They didn't back down during the BLM marches.
Their behavior wasn't as bad as the insurrectionists, but it was a far cry from what they did to peaceful left-wing protesters that were in Trumps way for his photo op, or the George Floyd protests. Remember this?
I'm wondering who it was that made the decision to not put a show of force for what was known to be coming well ahead of time.
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210106172554-03-blm-george-floyd-protests-file-exlarge-169.jpg)
Of course I have watched the videos, I posted some of them in this thread.
If they deem the safer route is to give up control, they will give up control. I don't know what your source is for your opinion, but I imagine it's the same for that picture you posted. Those aren't Capitol Hill police officers, they are National Guard. The National Guard was called in before that protest at the Lincoln Memorial even got started. There were no National Guard called to the Capitol riot until 2 hours later. This was a failure from the top.
This is a great article describing what it was like inside https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-capitol-siege/2021/01/09/e3ad3274-5283-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html here's the archive https://archive.is/zncZh
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This is an interesting read. It seems likely that the lack of security resources was deliberate, suggesting that there was a conspiracy involving the upper levels of the Capitol police.
https://twitter.com/TerryBoutonHist/status/1348365375449268226
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I strongly believe there were people working on the inside to let this happen. The few cops who appeared "unwilling" to do their job were probably part of it. I hope they're all investigated.
Rep. Jason Crow has released this call summery https://twitter.com/RepJasonCrow/status/1348391040370282501?s=20
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This is an interesting read. It seems likely that the lack of security resources was deliberate, suggesting that there was a conspiracy involving the upper levels of the Capitol police.
https://twitter.com/TerryBoutonHist/status/1348365375449268226
That was a great description from on the ground. I thought it was really weird all those people had items that are usually prohibited at the Capitol building (besides the guns). Once you read the Washington Post article, and then stories like this from the ground it really does start to look like a conspiracy!
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Shock jocks like that Tucker moron will deliberately lie about it though. That POS lives by spreading fear and hatred.
FUD - Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. Or, as I like to think of it - F***ing Useless Data
It's a term that was mostly used for the computer industry some time ago, but it seems apt in this context too. It's getting so bad that I think that I'm starting to see the fnords.
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This is an interesting read. It seems likely that the lack of security resources was deliberate, suggesting that there was a conspiracy involving the upper levels of the Capitol police.
https://twitter.com/TerryBoutonHist/status/1348365375449268226
That was a great description from on the ground. I thought it was really weird all those people had items that are usually prohibited at the Capitol building (besides the guns). Once you read the Washington Post article, and then stories like this from the ground it really does start to look like a conspiracy!
I can believe that a lot of cops were way too sympathetic. If it is a conspiracy then it's a very inept one. The only conceivable goal that might get them what they wanted is murdering most of congress. Some probably were prepared to do that. A lot of them were jackoffs in stupid costumes though.
To me it sort of looks like a rally that morphed into a riot that partially morphed into an insurrection.
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Ahahahah. Trumpsters are going off the deep end.
One group is trying to organize a rally for the 17th.
Another group is saying the first group is actually a false flag antifa trap.
A third group is angry at the second group for outing the first group and letting antifa know they have been found out.
I have no words for the hot mess the far right has become. They have completely lost it.
It's also a great demonstration of Poe's Law.
https://thedonald.win/p/11Rhd2jzbr/the-armed-march-on-jan-17th-is-a/c/
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Trump MAGA morons honestly make ANTIFA look like good people lolol
To be clear, I think ANTIFA are scumbags too
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErVmYhjVQAQvLBw?format=jpg&name=small)
I guess her hair, makeup and fake tan team quit lol
This POS doesn't look so happy anymore
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErS2gyuXIAE8uKR?format=jpg)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErS2gyuXEAA5c18?format=jpg)
Disheartening though that none seem to have any serious charges against them. Like trespass of a federal building is their worst . Has no one paid any attention to the purpose of this? Domestic terrorism and that's pretty open/shut case. Or how about the death of a police officer. Everyone that entered that building should be an accessory
America doesn't muck around with prison sentences though (unlike Australia) so hopefully these losers get put away for a long time regardless. Deserved
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Ahahahah. Trumpsters are going off the deep end.
One group is trying to organize a rally for the 17th.
Another group is saying the first group is actually a false flag antifa trap.
A third group is angry at the second group for outing the first group and letting antifa know they have been found out.
I have no words for the hot mess the far right has become. They have completely lost it.
It's also a great demonstration of Poe's Law.
https://thedonald.win/p/11Rhd2jzbr/the-armed-march-on-jan-17th-is-a/c/
Wow, just reading that. I mean, if they can stop their own protests, I'm not gonna complain.
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It's about time Facebook and Twitter were more heavy handed in moderating what's said on their platform too. And the trolls and bullies. The right to free speech doesn't entitle people to bully or spread misinformation. That goes for politicians too. They should not get any special status unless that status is holding them to account even more so than a pleb
It's interesting the things you support now... The baby steps that lead to terrible things of the future... The shifter of a few years ago would have some serious issues with the current shifter.
It's your right to be as you are, and I appreciate that. Just noticing the difference and question it with respect.
I have always loathed social media and blame the decoupling of the fabric and cohesion of society in a large part on them. It gives too much vocal authority to trolls and dimwits and dilutes the worlds truth with so much falsehoods and shit
When Trump was elected I was happy 'the establishment' realised it was not a sure thing and maybe a 'regular guy' who had lots of his own money (or could get it) wouldn't need to be beholden to sponsors who got him there
But over time his constant lies, nepotism, corruption and utter incompetence along with the disgusting way he talks about his opponents, his own military, people who dont vote for him etc it wore my hood will I had for him
Is Joe Biden the guy who will bring about a utopia, hell no. But let's be honest. He's not a socialist and he's not 'far left'. He at least can bring some needed dignity to the office once again and put America back in the good books of its allies. Trump soured relations with many of them while he loved up to people like Putin and Kim Jong Un.
For example, I don't agree with how Mitch McConnell runs things (blocking for blocking sake) but at least he knows how to speak the right words and eloquently (even if they are hollow as he doesn't back them up with action). Like how he did after the siege on the capitol
I count myself as left on done things, a little right on others. In the world of politics I never give blind trust or loyalty. It had to be earned. And then it has to be worked on to keep it. I'll never rust on go along with whatever thd leader say. For example if I was a republican, I'd sure as shit wear a mask. I'd never buy into this 'stolen' election nonsense either. If the republicans actually took action on Trump I'd consider them redeemable. But even after this
Mike Pence, who had people prepared to execute him and hang him on a tree outside the building as a 'warning' to traitors, still backs Trump. It is mind boggling. Giving a free pass to a man who put pressure on officials to 'find' extra votes (rigging the election himself!) and when that failed he then riled up and incited a full blown insurrection using Americans he radicalised and led to the deaths of 5 people including 1 police officer. While he was having a viewing party watching it all unfold and denying the national guard to restore order
Trump is a contemptible fuck wit and this is his legacy now. He has polarised Americans so much he has made it a far more dangerous place to live. Americans pitted against fellow Americans based on the colour on who they vote for.
I'll not stand up or back a party which enables and backs a strongman dictator wannabe who is responsible for an insurrection and bloodshed. Remember the faux outrage to Hillary about Benghazi? These deaths are a direct result of Trumps sedition. Where is the republican voter outrage?
Seriously, Trump is the worst president in all of Americas history. The worst, without question. Republicans should just dump his arse and say 'he is not one of us!'
I more so meant you saying a platform should stifle freedom of speech more. You used to be pretty into everyone having a voice, and quite a distain for social media (which you still have as you said).
Though I will agree with most of what you say about Trump now. He has really shown how terrible of a person he really is (much surpassed how terrible I already thought he was lol), all we really need to see is how he through Pence under the bus. I guy that has been there for him since he came on board no matter what he did.
Not only did he completely throw him under the bus, he damn near got him killed...and he did not/does not give a rats ass. Worst president I don't know, but I will agree probably the worst in his moral being.
I hope Pence gets mad and 25th amendment Trump's pathetic ass just to piss him off. Though really, social media banning him was probably the worst punishment to give him lol
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The only thing I can say about these "patriots", least they actually went after the people that wronged them in their eyes, instead of burning their neighbors house down.
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The only thing I can say about these "patriots", least they actually went after the people that wronged them in their eyes, instead of burning their neighbors house down.
That's sort of the thing about this. If you truly believe that the election is being stolen then you are obligated as a citizen to take action up to and including violence. If you truly believe that's what happened here then your reaction to Wednesday shouldn't be horror that it happened, it should be disappointment that it failed.
Why would they believe that the election was stolen? Well here's the thing, understanding exactly how an election is secure, how they guarantee accurate ballot count is something that most laypeople don't have the expertise to understand. Who do you trust to tell you what the results are?
In 2016 I trusted the democrats. I figured if there were any fraud that they'd talk about it constantly. I'd be a little distrustful of republicans saying it, not my tribe. But since the democrats said they lost fair and square then it seems reasonable to trust them. (I do realize they had all that Russia stuff. Has nothing to do with the validity of the election.)
Fast forward to 2020. Reverse the situation. Trump loses but won't concede. He just keeps lying and says he won. Here if the republicans were my tribe then I'd be inclined to belief him. He's who I would trust. And most of congress doesn't seem to contradict him. That must be the truth. The democrats say he lost but I can't trust them, not my tribe.
I'm not even sure who bears more of the blame here. These people live in a reality where their only trustworthy source of information is Trump and to a lesser degree the republicans. They acted in a way a reasonable person who is greatly concerned about their democracy would act.
In my opinion these senators and representatives who have been pushing this narrative have blood on their hands as much as Trump does and should resign in disgrace.
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The only thing I can say about these "patriots", least they actually went after the people that wronged them in their eyes, instead of burning their neighbors house down.
Are there many people in the US who think like you? Just curious.
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The two-party system is failing. People are killing each other over which old guy rules them. And sadly it is going to get much worse.
Bush started the divide, obama made it worse and Trump made it reach criticality.
The media is also to blame.
Sides are maximum opposing instead of balancing each other out and offering two different views.
I see no way out without violence.
A parlimantary system where the fate of an entire nation doesn't rest on the whims of a single person. Multiple parties that need to form a coalition and work together instead of against each other.
Smaller federal gov only for critical infrastructure, millitary and police. Each state also gets a representative.
If the coalition can't figure something out, let the people vote.
That or....
The USA splits up into 2, maybe 3 nations. Each having one side of the extreme.
Maybe also several completely independent states.
Borders may very well change
In the case of complete anarchy...
enjoy the already failing infrastructure getting much, much worse.
Remember the hoover dam? Only holds back the biggest lake in the USA... if that were to fail...
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The only thing I can say about these "patriots", least they actually went after the people that wronged them in their eyes, instead of burning their neighbors house down.
Are there many people in the US who think like you? Just curious.
I think so. A lot of americans are proud of how far they can go against their government.
It's one of the reason they want to bear arms, to protect themselves against a government that does something hostile to the population.
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I thought a lot of americans voted for trump because they didn't want an other war with Hillary?
So much for that...
At least not in the middle east this time.
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Fast forward to 2020. Reverse the situation. Trump loses but won't concede. He just keeps lying and says he won. Here if the republicans were my tribe then I'd be inclined to belief him. He's who I would trust. And most of congress doesn't seem to contradict him. That must be the truth. The democrats say he lost but I can't trust them, not my tribe.
I'm not sure this is true. I had this exact same conversation a few days ago and came to the opposite conclusion.
If in 2016 Hillary and Obama both started saying there was massive fraud, Republicans were duplicating millions of votes and said everything Trump and his co-conspirators said... I'd be PISSED. I'd be so mad, so angry that they stole my vote!
But then... at some point I'd be waiting for the fallout, I'd want to see who did this and how, I'd want to know what was being done to make sure it didn't happen again. When a hundred lawsuits got filed and there was nothing... no evidence... when all I got was repeats of the same claims, and conspiracy theories...
I don't think I'd be marching on the capitol. I'd be wondering if I was being lied to.
I don't blindly trust everything I hear, no matter what tribe it comes from. I'd fall for it, for a time.. but eventually the complete lack of evidence is going to start to bug me.
You would probably feel the same too.
Especially if Hillary and Obama were as crazy as Giuliani and Trump.
I truly don't understand how so many Republicans are falling for this. I think it's just how they are. They are angry people who WANT to believe so they can hate. There is a reason right wing media and radio are full of screaming ranting people and why it's so popular, but there isn't anything like that on the liberal side.
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Looks like there might be some time before all of the potential cyber security issues get worked out.
Allowing physical access to a location can have serious cybersecurity ramifications. Rioters could have bugged congressional offices, exfiltrated data from unlocked computers, or installed malware on exposed devices. In the rush to evacuate the Capitol, some computers were left unlocked and remained accessible by the time rioters arrived. And at least some equipment was stolen; Senator Jeff Merkley of Oregon said in a video late Wednesday that intruders took one of his office's laptops off a conference table.
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I'm keeping track of the general reaction on Fox News. This seems to have taken them off guard. But they're quickly reassembling their propaganda machine. They agree that trying to overthrow democracy is bad but twitter banning the people that keep trying to overthrow democracy is at least as much of a problem.
Isn't it wild that some numbnuts consider that censorship?
It isn't censorship for a private company to refuse to freely host someone's content and rhetoric which is an extreme liability to the company.
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I thought a lot of americans voted for trump because they didn't want an other war with Hillary?
So much for that...
At least not in the middle east this time.
I actually voted for Gov. Gary Johnson in 2016. A lot of people didn't because of the Aleppo incident, but I kinda loved that this guy didn't even know the capital of Syria -- his mind was totally on the U.S. of A. Y'know, which a President should be preoccupied with. Sorry, Syria.
But alas, Trump won. And I was pleasantly surprised when he didn't start any new wars, made some (initial) progress with the North Koreans... but he hasn't exactly navigated foreign or international relations with the diplomatic edge befitting of a leader.
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But alas, Trump won. And I was pleasantly surprised when he didn't start any new wars, made some (initial) progress with the North Koreans... but he hasn't exactly navigated foreign or international relations with the diplomatic edge befitting of a leader.
What progress? He got all buddy buddy with Kim and got played from the start, giving him all the recognition and press he wanted, even canceling joint exercises with South Korea and attacking NATO.
What did he get in return other than get a boatload of empty promises, which is what Kim hands out to anyone that engages with him?
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I'm keeping track of the general reaction on Fox News. This seems to have taken them off guard. But they're quickly reassembling their propaganda machine. They agree that trying to overthrow democracy is bad but twitter banning the people that keep trying to overthrow democracy is at least as much of a problem.
Isn't it wild that some numbnuts consider that censorship?
It isn't censorship for a private company to refuse to freely host someone's content and rhetoric which is an extreme liability to the company.
I realize it isn't censorship in the in the Constitutional sense. Given the severity of the situation I'm glad that the tech companies did it. It's no different than the time big tech got together and wiped out all the white supremacists and Islamic extremists. It still sort of rubs me the wrong way though.
So Trump gets kicked off twitter etc. I'm sort of okay with that. They are private companies. They can kick out anyone they want.
Then Parler gets kicked out of the app stores of the major phone operating systems. Hmm...
Now as of this weekend Amazon's hosting service AWS has dropped Parler. The site doesn't exist at the moment.
So we have a situation where there are 4 or 5 companies that if they agreed to it can annihilate a person's or a group of person's ability to communicate with any modern technology. This seems like a worrisome thing to me. At the very least I think we have some tech monopolies that need to be broken up. Not specifically because of this incident but it does underscore how much power they have.
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So we have a situation where there are 4 or 5 companies that if they agreed to it can annihilate a person's or a group of person's ability to communicate with any modern technology. This seems like a worrisome thing to me. At the very least I think we have some tech monopolies that need to be broken up. Not specifically because of this incident but it does underscore how much power they have.
Monopolies are always a problem, regardless of who they are or what industry they are in.
But it's not like these companies got together and decided on a whim to kick off Parler.
Parler was hosting a forum to openly discuss murdering people and commit crimes. These companies don't want to be involved in that so it's no surprise they are cutting ties with them.
Parler is going to be back, they will find a host that doesn't care. Monopiles don't last forever, especially on the internet.
Remember AOL? They used to BE the internet. How much power do their wield now?
Remember MySpace?
LiveJournal?
Remember how Yahoo crushed all the other web sites that tracked new pages?
Remember how AltaVista dominated the other search engines?
Just as AOL used to be the way EVERYONE got on the internet before thousands of other companies sprang up to replace them, Amazon web services is how EVERYONE hosts their content. Now. Eventually that will change, and you will be able to host your own datacenter in your house. Heck, I have a small 3 server datacenter I run everything I need off of and it sits on a corner of my desk.
Parler could host their own machines. The right wing assholes who fund them just were cheap and went with Amazon. They could easily bypass these other companies.
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So he still has free speech, there are just more steps involved to get his speech out.
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So he still has free speech, there are just more steps involved to get his speech out.
Yes... he simply has to do what every other President in the history of the Unites States has done... go in front of people and talk.
Trump wanting to tweet from his bedroom instead of stand before the people and talk isn't infringing on his first amendment rights.
It's absurd to think the President is muzzled. He can go on any talk show or news program any time he wants. He can hold a press conference any time he wants. He has the ability to reach more people than anyone else in the country.
He's just sulking.
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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/11/business/us-economy-coronavirus
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/01/10/marriott-campaign-donations-congress/
If you work for a company that has a super pac you should consider contacting whoever is in charge of it and asking them to join in.
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Looks like the Trump campaign will need to find someone else to
launder process their web site donations.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/stripe-stops-processing-payments-for-trump-campaign-website-11610319116
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So he still has free speech, there are just more steps involved to get his speech out.
Yes... he simply has to do what every other President in the history of the Unites States has done... go in front of people and talk.
Trump wanting to tweet from his bedroom instead of stand before the people and talk isn't infringing on his first amendment rights.
It's absurd to think the President is muzzled. He can go on any talk show or news program any time he wants. He can hold a press conference any time he wants. He has the ability to reach more people than anyone else in the country.
He's just sulking.
In fairness, the last time Trump stood before people and spoke, he incited a riot.
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The only thing I can say about these "patriots", least they actually went after the people that wronged them in their eyes, instead of burning their neighbors house down.
Are there many people in the US who think like you? Just curious.
I would hope this is common sense, so I would hope most people.
If you have a problem with someone/something you deal with that person/thing and not your neighbor or some random person on the street.
Can you share the error in this?
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If you have a problem with someone/something you deal with that person/thing and not your neighbor or some random person on the street.
The thing is, congress doesn't run presidential elections. That responsibility is left to the states. If you have any problems with the way the election turned out, then you need to take up any changes or reforms you want at the state level. Congress certifying the electoral college vote is (supposed to be) purely ceremonial.
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The only thing I can say about these "patriots", least they actually went after the people that wronged them in their eyes, instead of burning their neighbors house down.
Are there many people in the US who think like you? Just curious.
I would hope this is common sense, so I would hope most people.
If you have a problem with someone/something you deal with that person/thing and not your neighbor or some random person on the street.
Can you share the error in this?
What if your neighbors are the ones who wronged you?
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The only thing I can say about these "patriots", least they actually went after the people that wronged them in their eyes, instead of burning their neighbors house down.
Are there many people in the US who think like you? Just curious.
I would hope this is common sense, so I would hope most people.
If you have a problem with someone/something you deal with that person/thing and not your neighbor or some random person on the street.
Can you share the error in this?
The error is that the police they attacked certainly didn't wrong them. They DID attack random people on the street. And random people inside the building.
They attacked MY house. That building is MINE, it serves the people. They damaged property my taxes pay for, and my taxes will have to repair.
The error is thinking there is anything at all honorable with angry armed insurrectionists trying to overthrow a democratically elected President. They are scum, and shouldn't be praised because they threw rocks at one target instead of another.
Yeah I get it, you hate the BLM movement and what it stands for. Old news. It's just that this riot puts the lie to the whole Party of Law and Order claim. Right wing terrorists have been a problem for decades, this is yet another example.
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There's supposed to be a pro Trump rally at Twitter headquarters today. Other than this article, I haven't seen anything else about it https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-headquarters-trump-rally-san-francisco/
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SF is gearing up, but nothing happening yet.
S.F. police brace for possible pro-Trump demonstration at Twitter headquarters
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Police-brace-for-possible-pro-Trump-demonstration-15861143.php
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Trump's silence is getting a little weird. Yeah he's banned from twitter but he can call up any news network and just talk to them.
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But do any of the news networks (FoxNews) want to talk to Trump?
Who knows, maybe someone on his staff finally convinced him to STFU for the next week or so.
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He's still the president and networks like ratings. Someone would pick up the phone.
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Trump's silence is getting a little weird. Yeah he's banned from twitter but he can call up any news network and just talk to them.
Hes probably working on his next masterplan on how to become a dictator/american hitler.
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Maybe he was Q all along, and he's still leaking important information to all of the Qanons behind the scenes
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But do any of the news networks (FoxNews) want to talk to Trump?
Who knows, maybe someone on his staff finally convinced him to STFU for the next week or so.
Fox Entertainment will talk to Trump any time he wants, not because they like him, but they LOVE the money his followers bring when they watch.
I mean, all those "BUY GOLD" scams advertising on Fox only do so because of how gullible their audience is. Fox needs Trumps worshipers.
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Oh fantastic. Now I'm reading that since they had to throw social distancing out the window during the siege that all of congress probably has covid now.
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He's still the president and networks like ratings. Someone would pick up the phone.
All he has to do is call a press conference and most of the world's media will be queuing to get in.
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He could always use the Emergency Broadcast System!
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I will say, this warms my blackened heart:
The New York State Bar Association is investigating Rudy Giuliani.
Citing his role in the “violent uprising” that occurred last week at the Capitol, the New York State Bar Association, the country’s largest trade organization for lawyers, announced Monday that it had begun investigating President Trump’s lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, which could lead to his removal from the group.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/the-new-york-state-bar-association-is-investigating-rudy-giuliani.html
Probably nothing will come of it, but maybe some public shaming of "America's Mayor" will rattle his prattle.
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Shit, it ain't over yet https://abcnews.go.com/US/armed-protests-planned-50-state-capitols-fbi-bulletin/story?id=75179771
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He could always use the Emergency Broadcast System!
Or send a presidential text alert.
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Just gonna leave this here.
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Shit, it ain't over yet https://abcnews.go.com/US/armed-protests-planned-50-state-capitols-fbi-bulletin/story?id=75179771
China and Russia are rubbing their hands together with glee
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Shit, it ain't over yet https://abcnews.go.com/US/armed-protests-planned-50-state-capitols-fbi-bulletin/story?id=75179771
They should be out arresting these people.
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Shit, it ain't over yet https://abcnews.go.com/US/armed-protests-planned-50-state-capitols-fbi-bulletin/story?id=75179771
They should be out arresting these people.
Yeah in light of this I'm inclined to give the tech companies some slack in silencing these maniacs.
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Meanwhile at the State Department https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherm51/state-department-website-trump-term-ending-employee
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Meanwhile at the State Department https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherm51/state-department-website-trump-term-ending-employee
Both diplomats said that an investigation into the matter could be a challenge, considering how many people have administrative access to the content management system used for the State Department’s official website.
This statement is frightening.
Why? Because it means either they have no tracking on who makes changes (fucking wikipedia has that) or they all share one login.
Nit sure which is worse.
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Shit, it ain't over yet https://abcnews.go.com/US/armed-protests-planned-50-state-capitols-fbi-bulletin/story?id=75179771
They should be out arresting these people.
Yeah in light of this I'm inclined to give the tech companies some slack in silencing these maniacs.
I could honestly go either way here. If tech companies were to allow it, and the FBI were to take action on people plotting to commit violent acts and attack the foundations of our government, letting them all continue to discuss their plans out in the open on social media is a great way to make sure it's out in the open. If, however, it's all just going to be ignored by officials and lead to even greater amounts of domestic terrorism due to the lack of consequences, then yeah, if I'm the CEO of one of the tech giants, I'm getting that shit off my platform because I don't want to be associated with, or even have to try and sleep at night feeling like I enabled, this movement.
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Meanwhile at the State Department https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherm51/state-department-website-trump-term-ending-employee
Both diplomats said that an investigation into the matter could be a challenge, considering how many people have administrative access to the content management system used for the State Department’s official website.
This statement is frightening.
Why? Because it means either they have no tracking on who makes changes (fucking wikipedia has that) or they all share one login.
Nit sure which is worse.
Everybody was making fun of Parler for using Wordpress, who knew the govt did too?
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The head of DHS has stepped down.
I feel as though we're on an airline with no pilots. Hopefully we can coast 9 days with no discernable leadership.
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The head of DHS has stepped down.
I feel as though we're on an airline with no pilots. Hopefully we can coast 9 days with no discernable leadership.
We're in good hands, I'm sure of it.
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The head of DHS has stepped down.
I feel as though we're on an airline with no pilots. Hopefully we can coast 9 days with no discernable leadership.
We made it nearly 4 years.
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The head of DHS has stepped down.
I feel as though we're on an airline with no pilots. Hopefully we can coast 9 days with no discernable leadership.
We made it nearly 4 years.
Let's not bonk just before the finish line.
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I feel as though we're on an airline with no pilots.
Just fucking snakes.
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I feel as though we're on an airline with no pilots.
Just fucking snakes.
Well if that's what they are doing then they will be too busy to bite anybody. Lets hope they have lots of stamina until the flight is over.
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Anyone here on Parler? Looks like everyone who's ever been verified on Parler just got doxxed.
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https://twitter.com/bitburner/status/1348558563019427842
https://www.reddit.com/r/ParlerWatch/
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I have an account on parler, well had an account I guess. I didn't have to upload my driver's license or anything though.
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I wonder how many of the verified citizens were at the riot.
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Molotov cocktails need to be glass. Plastic does not shatter.
BLM
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I created an account just to poke around. So they have my email, randomly generated password and burner phone number. Oh noes.
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/capitol-riot-taser-death/
Damnit! Why did I decide to fact check this story? I should have just stuck with what I heard originally, that an insurrectionist accidently tazed himself in the nuts to death trying to steal a painting.
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The only thing I can say about these "patriots", least they actually went after the people that wronged them in their eyes, instead of burning their neighbors house down.
Are there many people in the US who think like you? Just curious.
I would hope this is common sense, so I would hope most people.
If you have a problem with someone/something you deal with that person/thing and not your neighbor or some random person on the street.
Can you share the error in this?
You are suggesting that armed insurrection is an acceptable solution to the problem of losing an election.
That's not how this works. If you apply that "solution" you end up either dead or in jail.
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The only thing I can say about these "patriots", least they actually went after the people that wronged them in their eyes, instead of burning their neighbors house down.
Are there many people in the US who think like you? Just curious.
I would hope this is common sense, so I would hope most people.
If you have a problem with someone/something you deal with that person/thing and not your neighbor or some random person on the street.
Can you share the error in this?
You are suggesting that armed insurrection is an acceptable solution to the problem of losing an election.
That's not how this works. If you apply that "solution" you end up either dead or in jail.
I think a revolt is absolutely fine if it was an election fraud as Trump advertised. However, there was not any sustainable evidence for that, especially enough to justify a revolt. Definitely a formal inquiry for sure.
Just for the record since people love to put words in my mouth....
I don't agree with what those people did to the capital, they should be arrested when found....face jail time and fines 100 percent.
I was simply saying when you have a problem with someone/something, you revolt against the source, not some random person/thing. Like when BLM attacked and took over the police station.... Makes sense, the police did them wrong so they went to the source. Attacking random people, destroying innocent people's property and hurting/killing innocent people....that makes no sense.
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Speaking of people getting arrested, this is hilarious https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1348760270198472708?s=20
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The only thing I can say about these "patriots", least they actually went after the people that wronged them in their eyes, instead of burning their neighbors house down.
Are there many people in the US who think like you? Just curious.
I would hope this is common sense, so I would hope most people.
If you have a problem with someone/something you deal with that person/thing and not your neighbor or some random person on the street.
Can you share the error in this?
You are suggesting that armed insurrection is an acceptable solution to the problem of losing an election.
That's not how this works. If you apply that "solution" you end up either dead or in jail.
I think a revolt is absolutely fine if it was an election fraud as Trump advertised. However, there was not any sustainable evidence for that, especially enough to justify a revolt. Definitely a formal inquiry for sure.
Just for the record since people love to put words in my mouth....
I don't agree with what those people did to the capital, they should be arrested when found....face jail time and fines 100 percent.
I was simply saying when you have a problem with someone/something, you revolt against the source, not some random person/thing. Like when BLM attacked and took over the police station.... Makes sense, the police did them wrong so they went to the source. Attacking random people, destroying innocent people's property and hurting/killing innocent people....that makes no sense.
Seen on Twitter...
"I want to swim in my neighbors pool, but they voted no. I think their decision unfair & sued them, losing 40+ times. So I held an armed protest in front of their house & in the heat of the moment vandalized it, but couldn't kill them bc they got away. Now they're blaming me!"
"I just pushed my grandmother down the basement steps. My parents want to call the cops on me, but I don't know how that would unify this family."
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Only one person showed up to the pro-Trump protest outside Twitter’s San Francisco HQ
30 police officers were there to monitor the scene
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https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/11/22225721/twitter-protest-san-francisco-trump-stopthesteal-deplatforming
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Only one person showed up to the pro-Trump protest outside Twitter’s San Francisco HQ
30 police officers were there to monitor the scene
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Vkem1XRVbomnLtcxsbQUKEANrYA=/0x0:2040x1360/3820x2149/filters:focal(857x517:1183x843):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/68652819/vpavic_210111_4366_0039.0.jpg)
https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/11/22225721/twitter-protest-san-francisco-trump-stopthesteal-deplatforming
Perfect!
Also https://twitter.com/MelissaBlasius/status/1348740338827939841?s=20
Jacob Chansley, AKA Jake Angeli, Arizona man makes first court appearance in for charges related to storming the U.S. Capitol. His mom says he hasn’t eaten since Friday because the detention facility won’t feed him all organic food. @abc15
lol
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The only thing I can say about these "patriots", least they actually went after the people that wronged them in their eyes, instead of burning their neighbors house down.
Are there many people in the US who think like you? Just curious.
I would hope this is common sense, so I would hope most people.
If you have a problem with someone/something you deal with that person/thing and not your neighbor or some random person on the street.
Can you share the error in this?
You are suggesting that armed insurrection is an acceptable solution to the problem of losing an election.
That's not how this works. If you apply that "solution" you end up either dead or in jail.
I think a revolt is absolutely fine if it was an election fraud as Trump advertised. However, there was not any sustainable evidence for that, especially enough to justify a revolt. Definitely a formal inquiry for sure.
Just for the record since people love to put words in my mouth....
I don't agree with what those people did to the capital, they should be arrested when found....face jail time and fines 100 percent.
I was simply saying when you have a problem with someone/something, you revolt against the source, not some random person/thing. Like when BLM attacked and took over the police station.... Makes sense, the police did them wrong so they went to the source. Attacking random people, destroying innocent people's property and hurting/killing innocent people....that makes no sense.
So the police officer they killed was the source of their problems?
The security personnel in the building was the source of their problems?
Seems like they were attacking innocent people and things too.
And for the record, I agree that anyone (BLM or right-wing) that riots and breaks the law should go to jail. I don't agree that these right winger terrorists were somehow noble or better than BLM, where the protests were overwhelmingly peaceful.
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Also https://twitter.com/MelissaBlasius/status/1348740338827939841?s=20
Jacob Chansley, AKA Jake Angeli, Arizona man makes first court appearance in for charges related to storming the U.S. Capitol. His mom says he hasn’t eaten since Friday because the detention facility won’t feed him all organic food. @abc15
lol
That's comedy gold right there... don't start a civil war if the jails don't serve organic food. LOL
From the same thread.
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an insurrectionist accidently tazed himself in the nuts to death trying to steal a painting.
Zapped myself half way 'tween my belly button and nads.15,000 volts @ 60 mA.
Ask for the story . . .
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Also https://twitter.com/MelissaBlasius/status/1348740338827939841?s=20
Jacob Chansley, AKA Jake Angeli, Arizona man makes first court appearance in for charges related to storming the U.S. Capitol. His mom says he hasn’t eaten since Friday because the detention facility won’t feed him all organic food. @abc15
lol
That's comedy gold right there... don't start a civil war if the jails don't serve organic food. LOL
From the same thread.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ere0mIwVQAAcNhe?format=jpg&name=small)
I wonder if the dead raccoons on his head were all organic.
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an insurrectionist accidently tazed himself in the nuts to death trying to steal a painting.
Zapped myself half way 'tween my belly button and nads.15,000 volts @ 60 mA.
Ask for the story . . .
Not sure what kind of Tazer you are using but they generally only deliver 2 to 3 mA. 60 mA would be quite dangerous.
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I think a revolt is absolutely fine if it was an election fraud as Trump advertised.
I rest my case.
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I wonder if the dead raccoons on his head were all organic.
I'm starting to feel sorry for him. Poor guy all alone in jail with his horned coon skin regalia pining for a hearty serving of kale and wild rice.
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I think a revolt is absolutely fine if it was an election fraud as Trump advertised. However, there was not any sustainable evidence for that, especially enough to justify a revolt. Definitely a formal inquiry for sure.
How many inquiries/audits/recounts/lawsuits does Trump have to lose before you finally accept the results?
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an insurrectionist accidently tazed himself in the nuts to death trying to steal a painting.
Zapped myself half way 'tween my belly button and nads.15,000 volts @ 60 mA.
Ask for the story . . .
Not sure what kind of Tazer you are using but they generally only deliver 2 to 3 mA. 60 mA would be quite dangerous.
Knowing his background, doubt he is talking about a tazer
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I think a revolt is absolutely fine if it was an election fraud as Trump advertised.
I rest my case.
Since we pride ourselves on said democracy, would it not be a point of uprising if it were proven rigged?
Did I also not say it would take proof beyond reasonable doubt to justify said uprising, also that the proof was not there....
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I think a revolt is absolutely fine if it was an election fraud as Trump advertised. However, there was not any sustainable evidence for that, especially enough to justify a revolt. Definitely a formal inquiry for sure.
How many inquiries/audits/recounts/lawsuits does Trump have to lose before you finally accept the results?
I already agreed he won early December. Does that answer your question?
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I think a revolt is absolutely fine if it was an election fraud as Trump advertised. However, there was not any sustainable evidence for that, especially enough to justify a revolt. Definitely a formal inquiry for sure.
How many inquiries/audits/recounts/lawsuits does Trump have to lose before you finally accept the results?
I already agreed he won early December. Does that answer your question?
Fair enough. Perhaps I should have said Trump and his die hard supporters instead of you specifically.
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I think a revolt is absolutely fine if it was an election fraud as Trump advertised. However, there was not any sustainable evidence for that, especially enough to justify a revolt. Definitely a formal inquiry for sure.
How many inquiries/audits/recounts/lawsuits does Trump have to lose before you finally accept the results?
I already agreed he won early December. Does that answer your question?
Fair enough. Perhaps I should have said Trump and his die hard supporters instead of you specifically.
I didn't want Biden to win, but after seeing what Trump is capable of and how bad he threw Pence under the bus. Shows how deranged he truly is, makes me feel a little better about the loss.
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I don't like that the Left is calling to have who even sympathized with what happened to have their lives ruined.
It’s everywhere in msm.
They’re making a big show there of when they arrest people who were at the capital. All conservatives are being labeled domestic terrorists
People are saying garbage in the threads, very sad.
Some of the comment threads:
“I hope they all starve to death after taking everything away from them”
“They don’t deserve jobs and livelihoods”
“We need to send them to camps”
“We should strip veterans of their service record”
When it’s being espoused by the talking heads, of course tens of thousands online are going to parrot it. You don’t think this is the left using their institutional power to implement a monoculture? They control the private sphere and the public.
If you lived around Portland and went downtown with a MAGA hat on, you will be murdered. That has been the political climate there for some time.
Racial divides have turned into violent tribalism that risks spilling out into armed conflict.
And the elite laugh about all of this on late night TV. Smiling. Mocking the people suffering in the country, both left and right.
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I must politely suggest that you've seen too much Fox News. This rhetoric doesn't match the reality I'm seeing here.
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I think a revolt is absolutely fine if it was an election fraud as Trump advertised. However, there was not any sustainable evidence for that, especially enough to justify a revolt. Definitely a formal inquiry for sure.
How many inquiries/audits/recounts/lawsuits does Trump have to lose before you finally accept the results?
I already agreed he won early December. Does that answer your question?
Fair enough. Perhaps I should have said Trump and his die hard supporters instead of you specifically.
I didn't want Biden to win, but after seeing what Trump is capable of and how bad he threw Pence under the bus. Shows how deranged he truly is, makes me feel a little better about the loss.
If you didn't think this would be a possibility considering Trump's past and his demeanor, you need to seriously evaluate your critical thinking skills. This type of lashing out is exactly why most of America voted against Trump in 2 elections. He hates losers, loves himself, and will do anything in his power to not be viewed as a loser.
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I don't like that the Left is calling to have who even sympathized with what happened to have their lives ruined.
It’s everywhere in msm.
They’re making a big show there of when they arrest people who were at the capital. All conservatives are being labeled domestic terrorists
People are saying garbage in the threads, very sad.
Some of the comment threads:
“I hope they all starve to death after taking everything away from them”
“They don’t deserve jobs and livelihoods”
“We need to send them to camps”
“We should strip veterans of their service record”
When it’s being espoused by the talking heads, of course tens of thousands online are going to parrot it. You don’t think this is the left using their institutional power to implement a monoculture? They control the private sphere and the public.
If you lived around Portland and went downtown with a MAGA hat on, you will be murdered. That has been the political climate there for some time.
Racial divides have turned into violent tribalism that risks spilling out into armed conflict.
And the elite laugh about all of this on late night TV. Smiling. Mocking the people suffering in the country, both left and right.
If you broke into the capitol building to try and violently overthrow the government then yes, you deserve to be arrested and have things taken away from you.
Nobody is going to murder you if you wear a MAGA hat. How many MAGA hat wearing murders have happened in the past 4 years?
If you called for armed rebellion, you deserve to be shunned. If you supported lies for months you deserve to be called on it.
What is happening to all these MAGA folks is called... consequences.
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I agree with the dens one that it's ridiculous how much violent hate the protesters get, I read from many people that they deserve to die etc. Honestly, many (most) of them are just clueless retards, they went to a protest in front of the capitol but then the doors got opened so they just walked in... Sure, they deserve a fine, maybe some jail time depending on what they did but that's it. Public shaming, wishing death, rape etc. onto other person just puts the one doing it on the same moral level as the capitol protesters.
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I agree with the dens one that it's ridiculous how much violent hate the protesters get, I read from many people that they deserve to die etc. Honestly, many (most) of them are just clueless retards, they went to a protest in front of the capitol but then the doors got opened so they just walked in... Sure, they deserve a fine, maybe some jail time depending on what they did but that's it. Public shaming, wishing death, rape etc. onto other person just puts the one doing it on the same moral level as the capitol protesters.
They were chanting death threats and literally roaming the halls looking for victims. Hardly innocent.
People died.
They are all adults who chose to be there, chose to go into the building, chose to break windows, chant death threats and try and overturn an election because they are butthurt snowflakes.
I agree, they are clueless and retards. So put them in jail for the criminally insane if it makes you feel better. But everyone who broke into the capital building deserves prison.
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I don't like that the Left is calling to have who even sympathized with what happened to have their lives ruined.
It’s everywhere in msm.
They’re making a big show there of when they arrest people who were at the capital. All conservatives are being labeled domestic terrorists
People are saying garbage in the threads, very sad.
Some of the comment threads:
“I hope they all starve to death after taking everything away from them”
“They don’t deserve jobs and livelihoods”
“We need to send them to camps”
“We should strip veterans of their service record”
When it’s being espoused by the talking heads, of course tens of thousands online are going to parrot it. You don’t think this is the left using their institutional power to implement a monoculture? They control the private sphere and the public.
If you lived around Portland and went downtown with a MAGA hat on, you will be murdered. That has been the political climate there for some time.
Racial divides have turned into violent tribalism that risks spilling out into armed conflict.
And the elite laugh about all of this on late night TV. Smiling. Mocking the people suffering in the country, both left and right.
Yes, this whole 'left' thing and racial divides was made far worse under Trumps rule. Because that's how he operated. Divide, polarize and fear mongering.
I'm sure you were this incensed at the nasty things the right says about BLM or democrat voters
For the record, people who sympathies with people calling for senators or the VP heads to be on a pike, murder a police officer by bludgeoning him to death and try for an insurrection are garbage people. You're entitled to sympathise but I'm also entitled to think they are scum
A lot of those who proudly boasted from inside the capitol have also lost their jobs. Deserved. I wouldn't want a POS whose face has been plastered all over the world grinning as he particpates as a domestic terrorist in an armed insurrection working for me either
Let me ask you this
What do you think about people who sympathize with ISIS? Would you care if their lives were made more difficult?
QAnon has been listed as a domestic terror threat for the past few months. If you follow them and engage in their activities, it's your own fault when you get in trouble.
Proud Boys is going to meet the same fate in Canada at least. The biggest threat to America is not ISIS or Islam or even Russia. It's domestic terrorists and we saw a piece of them on January 6. And you want sympathize with domestic terrorists?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/11/canada-considers-adding-proud-boys-terrorist-list-alongside-isis-al-qaida
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I must politely suggest that you've seen too much Fox News. This rhetoric doesn't match the reality I'm seeing here.
Not from some news.
From a friend that lives around Portland and has seen the place be taken over by BLM and Antifa... endless destruction and hate.
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I must politely suggest that you've seen too much Fox News. This rhetoric doesn't match the reality I'm seeing here.
Not from some news.
From a friend that lives around Portland and has seen the place be taken over by BLM and Antifa... endless destruction and hate.
A black woman walking home past a protest was getting verbally abused and even physically assaulted by the MAGA crowd. I assume you are disgusted by this behaviour?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/08/black-woman-trump-rally-attack-la/
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I agree with the dens one that it's ridiculous how much violent hate the protesters get, I read from many people that they deserve to die etc. Honestly, many (most) of them are just clueless retards, they went to a protest in front of the capitol but then the doors got opened so they just walked in... Sure, they deserve a fine, maybe some jail time depending on what they did but that's it. Public shaming, wishing death, rape etc. onto other person just puts the one doing it on the same moral level as the capitol protesters.
They were chanting death threats and literally roaming the halls looking for victims. Hardly innocent.
People died.
They are all adults who chose to be there, chose to go into the building, chose to break windows, chant death threats and try and overturn an election because they are butthurt snowflakes.
I agree, they are clueless and retards. So put them in jail for the criminally insane if it makes you feel better. But everyone who broke into the capital building deserves prison.
Entering and defacing the capital stuff was done by a minority...
I thought we should not judge a group of people by a few bad apples? Or has that gone out of the window now.
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I thought we should not judge a group of people by a few bad apples? Or has that gone out of the window now.
That went out the window for a long time ago.
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I agree with the dens one that it's ridiculous how much violent hate the protesters get, I read from many people that they deserve to die etc. Honestly, many (most) of them are just clueless retards, they went to a protest in front of the capitol but then the doors got opened so they just walked in... Sure, they deserve a fine, maybe some jail time depending on what they did but that's it. Public shaming, wishing death, rape etc. onto other person just puts the one doing it on the same moral level as the capitol protesters.
They were chanting death threats and literally roaming the halls looking for victims. Hardly innocent.
People died.
They are all adults who chose to be there, chose to go into the building, chose to break windows, chant death threats and try and overturn an election because they are butthurt snowflakes.
I agree, they are clueless and retards. So put them in jail for the criminally insane if it makes you feel better. But everyone who broke into the capital building deserves prison.
Entering and defacing the capital stuff was done by a minority...
I thought we should not judge a group of people by a few bad apples? Or has that gone out of the window now.
Read my post again.
I said everyone who broke into the building deserves to go to jail. That's the least you should do with terrorists.
They committed a crime, did they not? They chose to go through those doors, many helped break them down.
People who just stood around outside and didn't attack anyone are not being arrested.
So what's the problem?
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Trump spoke to reporters today https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-lashes-impeachment-effort-claims-161829721.html I can't find the video of it on youtube yet, but yahoo is not behind a paywall so you can watch it there. Another video I saw (uploaded from cspan to the fediverse so I can't post that either) he is talking about the tremendous success of the completed border wall, and that some caravans are headed this way. lol
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Here it is! I forgot to look on Trump's youtube channel, and I think Google hides it from search results.
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rump, though, appeared to be trying to shift the blame for more potential violent protests, saying it was Democrats -- like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer -- who were "causing tremendous danger to our country," with their attempt to impeach him over his role in Wednesday's insurrection. In his brief remarks, he stopped short of issuing any sort of condemnation of his own supporters' actions.
"For Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to continue on this path, I think it’s causing tremendous danger to our country, and it’s causing tremendous anger," Trump said. "I want no violence."
Nice threat there. A call to arms and see to it that danger happens if the democrats dont back down I guess
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"We've completed the wall."
LOL.
Howe does he get away with these lies? His base just eats them up like the slobbering idiots they are.
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And the positive side him lying about it and his supporters accepting it saves us a lot of money of something that doesn't really do anything.
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Oh great. Another chance for Trump to spew a bunch of lies about the election being stolen.
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I don't like that the Left is calling to have who even sympathized with what happened to have their lives ruined.
It’s everywhere in msm.
They’re making a big show there of when they arrest people who were at the capital. All conservatives are being labeled domestic terrorists
People are saying garbage in the threads, very sad.
Some of the comment threads:
“I hope they all starve to death after taking everything away from them”
“They don’t deserve jobs and livelihoods”
“We need to send them to camps”
“We should strip veterans of their service record”
When it’s being espoused by the talking heads, of course tens of thousands online are going to parrot it. You don’t think this is the left using their institutional power to implement a monoculture? They control the private sphere and the public.
If you lived around Portland and went downtown with a MAGA hat on, you will be murdered. That has been the political climate there for some time.
Racial divides have turned into violent tribalism that risks spilling out into armed conflict.
And the elite laugh about all of this on late night TV. Smiling. Mocking the people suffering in the country, both left and right.
I'm left and I'm not saying it.
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Twitter is all atwitter about Lindsay Graham flying to Texas with Trump on Air Force One.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-github-backlash-jewish-employee-termination-2021-1 (it's behind a paywall, here's the archive https://archive.is/HrM7Y )
Microsoft-owned GitHub is facing an employee backlash after a Jewish employee was terminated two days after suggesting there were "Nazis" among the US Capitol rioters in an internal chat room.
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On January 6th — the day of the siege of the US Capitol by a mob of Trump supporters — an employee at Microsoft-owned GitHub took to an internal Slack chat room to warn coworkers in the greater Washington DC area to "stay safe homies, Nazis are about," with a sad emoji.
A coworker was quick to criticize the employee for using divisive rhetoric, igniting a firestorm of internal debate, with many jumping in to take sides. That same day, HR reprimanded the employee, who is Jewish, for using the word "Nazi" in the workplace.
On Friday, two days later, the employee told Insider that he was terminated, with human resources citing unspecified "patterns of behavior." The employee asked not to be named, citing concerns over online harassment, but his identity is known to Insider.
"I did not know that, as a Jew, it would be so polarizing to say this word," the former employee wrote in a Slack group for Jewish employees, in a message viewed by Insider. The employee says he sent the message during the meeting where he was officially terminated from GitHub, before his corporate accounts got deactivated.
Were they worried he hurt a Nazi's feelings? Jesus, there was a guy at the protest/rally/riot/insurrection wearing a "Camp Auschwitz" hoodie.
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Does Godwin's Law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law) even apply anymore when discussing Trump and his most rabid followers?
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Does Godwin's Law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law) even apply anymore when discussing Trump and his most rabid followers?
Godwins law doesn't apply when there are actual NAZIs involved.
(https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2016/09/Nazi-Bloomburg.jpg)
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I agree with the dens one that it's ridiculous how much violent hate the protesters get, I read from many people that they deserve to die etc. Honestly, many (most) of them are just clueless retards, they went to a protest in front of the capitol but then the doors got opened so they just walked in... Sure, they deserve a fine, maybe some jail time depending on what they did but that's it. Public shaming, wishing death, rape etc. onto other person just puts the one doing it on the same moral level as the capitol protesters.
They were chanting death threats and literally roaming the halls looking for victims. Hardly innocent.
People died.
They are all adults who chose to be there, chose to go into the building, chose to break windows, chant death threats and try and overturn an election because they are butthurt snowflakes.
I agree, they are clueless and retards. So put them in jail for the criminally insane if it makes you feel better. But everyone who broke into the capital building deserves prison.
Sure, some arr hardcore criminals. Mainly the frontliners I d say. But many were just walking along.
Also I never said they were innocent, you made that up.
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I agree with the dens one that it's ridiculous how much violent hate the protesters get, I read from many people that they deserve to die etc. Honestly, many (most) of them are just clueless retards, they went to a protest in front of the capitol but then the doors got opened so they just walked in... Sure, they deserve a fine, maybe some jail time depending on what they did but that's it. Public shaming, wishing death, rape etc. onto other person just puts the one doing it on the same moral level as the capitol protesters.
They were chanting death threats and literally roaming the halls looking for victims. Hardly innocent.
People died.
They are all adults who chose to be there, chose to go into the building, chose to break windows, chant death threats and try and overturn an election because they are butthurt snowflakes.
I agree, they are clueless and retards. So put them in jail for the criminally insane if it makes you feel better. But everyone who broke into the capital building deserves prison.
Sure, some arr hardcore criminals. Mainly the frontliners I d say. But many were just walking along.
Also I never said they were innocent, you made that up.
"I was just walking along, officer, and suddenly found myself taking a shit in Pelosi's office. I have no idea how that happened, honest!"
Nobody just "walked along" into the building. They knew what they were doing, they now will have to pay the price. Those that get caught, as most were just allowed to walk right back out.
Aren't they getting enough special treatment and kid glove handling for you?
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/capitol-riot-arrests-coffman-mostofsky/2021/01/12/634441e0-54f4-11eb-a08b-f1381ef3d207_story.html
Sedition charges are now being considered by the DOJ.
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Another take on the rally:
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Even Hitler is pissed at Trump
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Even Hitler is pissed at Trump
That was hilariois. Especially the meta bit.
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It's funny cos it's Hitler.
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Florida is the new Argentina!
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Florida is the new Argentina!
Dammit!
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Impeachment debates are underway. The republicans defense seems a little halfhearted. There is a lot of talk from them about unity. I think that Matt Gaetz might be undermining that when he vows to go after Biden's "crime family" though.
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https://www.ajc.com/news/trumps-pick-for-us-attorney-in-georgia-dismisses-election-fraud-claims-theres-just-nothing-to-them/7JMIL37WANHWXCZD4FTJXH4CIQ/
The acting U.S. attorney for Northern Georgia, who was named after his predecessor reportedly angered President Trump for not finding election fraud, told staffers in a conference call Monday that he dismissed two election fraud cases on his first day.
“I would love to stand out on the street corner and scream this, and I can’t,” said Bobby Christine, according to an audio recording of the call obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
“But I can tell you I closed the two most — I don’t know, I guess you’d call them high profile or the two most pressing election issues this office has,” he said. “I said I believe, as many of the people around the table believed, there’s just nothing to them.”
Christine also said he found fewer election-related investigations in the office than he expected.
“Quite frankly, just watching television you would assume that you got election cases stacked from the floor to the ceiling,” said Christine. “I am so happy to find out that’s not the case, but I didn’t know coming in.”
Interesting, not even people Trump put in place to help him can find election fraud. I wonder if it will ever be enough for his fans.
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Interesting, not even people Trump put in place to help him can find election fraud. I wonder if it will ever be enough for his fans.
I get the impression that as long as Trump thinks there's fraud, so will his fans. If Trump gave the tiniest **** about calming the country down, he would swallow his pride, drop his clams of fraud and concede. Although I also get the feeling that even that wouldn't be enough for his most rabid followers.
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Impeachment debates are underway. The republicans defense seems a little halfhearted. There is a lot of talk from them about unity. I think that Matt Gaetz might be undermining that when he vows to go after Biden's "crime family" though.
Unity.... FFS
The repugnican version of 'unity' is like if I come over, ransack your house and kill your loved one but then ask you don't get mad and just let it go because if I suffer any consequences that there will be more trouble for you. It boggles the mind
But they are all spineless self serving arseholes with their snouts in the trough. Have a look at what they used to say about Trump before the 2016 election and now. No morals except the one that maximises their chance for reelection. Truly repugnant
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Interesting, not even people Trump put in place to help him can find election fraud. I wonder if it will ever be enough for his fans.
If Trump gave the tiniest **** about calming the country down, he would swallow his pride, drop his clams of fraud and concede. Although I also get the feeling that even that wouldn't be enough for his most rabid followers.
People behind convincing him to make the half arsed concession video about ensuring an orderly transition of power said that he regretted making it because it made him look weak. What an arse.
He has a odd definition of what weak means. If Trump was strong he would have manned up to the defeat on election night (or when Bidens win was assured), phoning Biden and congratulating him on his victory. Strength would be telling his supporters to support the new President of America.
Instead we just see a weak as piss cry baby with the maturity to match.
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He has a odd definition of what weak means.
Not really. Trump isn't the only one who sees losing as weakness, and losing so many tight races to the likes of Biden must be especially galling.
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He has a odd definition of what weak means.
Not really. Trump isn't the only one who sees losing as weakness, and losing so many tight races to the likes of Biden must be especially galling.
The true test of character is how one handles a loss.
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Trump obviously did not play little league baseball.
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The true test of character is how one handles a loss.
With as many of his businesses that went bankrupt, you'd think that he'd be better at handling a loss by now.
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The true test of character is how one handles a loss.
With as many of his businesses that went bankrupt, you'd think that he'd be better at handling a loss by now.
I saw a recent interview with his niece, Mary Trump. I don't remember the exact quote, but the question about how DJT handles "loss" came up. She said something to the effect that he doesn't really see anything as a loss, even if it really is one, just more of a "Win with an asterisk next to it..." And he places that asterisk wherever and whenever he pleases. Probably overstating the obvious, but I thought it concisely spelled out the mentality. I won the election by a landslide, (asterisk = Massive fraud ensued...Making it appear I lost...But I still won...And look at how many people love me and agree with me...)
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So nice they impeached him twice. 10 Republicans joined in.
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So nice they impeached him twice. 10 Republicans joined in.
The impeachment is nice, but only 10 republicans joining in is pretty sad (although not really unexpected).
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https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1349471583455178754?s=20
With 10 republicans voting to impeach the president from their own party, this is the most bipartisan impeachment in American history.
I suppose this is true. Only three presidents have been impeached, and none of them were convicted.
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Maybe this time they'll have witness testemony.
Or call Trump to the stand. Because that would be fucking epic.
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I doubt they want to drag it on more than they have to. They've got congress and the white house. I doubt they want to waste any time.
But then again there might be details that come that might need more investigation.
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I guess there is the question of what was Trump doing during all this and why the hell was law enforcement missing?
It might be worth investigating that.
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Trump made the cover of another magazine https://twitter.com/TheNewEuropean/status/1349338507433664512?s=20
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Any guesses as to when the trial will be held?
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Any guesses as to when the trial will be held?
I just read that the Senate hearings won't be until next week.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/13/facebook-role-in-capitol-protest
Archive https://archive.is/zhghW
Most of the riot was planned on Facebook. How long before Google and Apple take the Facebook app out of their stores? Never, probably. It was all Parler's fault!
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You western globilists dont get it do you?! The world as we know it is changing, Trump is going to stay! When he said twelve more years he was not kidding! Everything has gone to plan, this is exactly what he wanted, he didnt want to win, he wanted to shook the system. To him its fix it or fuck it! I think it going to be fuck it!
I think therefor.....
Now i think that some of the southern states are going to succeed and make Trump the first president.
Now, if I'm half right like I was the first time, then get ready for the real storm!!!
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You western globilists dont get it do you?! The world as we know it is changing, Trump is going to stay! When he said twelve more years he was not kidding! Everything has gone to plan, this is exactly what he wanted, he didnt want to win, he wanted to shook the system. To him its fix it or fuck it! I think it going to be fuck it!
I think therefor.....
Now i think that some of the southern states are going to succeed and make Trump the first president.
Now, if I'm half right like I was the first time, then get ready for the real storm!!!
The revolution failed because it was led by illiterate yobs. Succeed is a bit different to secede.
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Repugnicans warned us how awful a Trump presidency would be
eg Ted Cruz "You want to know how to make America Great Again? Tell Donald Trump to go to hell!'
Well.... That didn't age well ::)
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Repugnicans warned us how awful a Trump presidency would be
eg Ted Cruz "You want to know how to make America Great Again? Tell Donald Trump to go to hell!'
Well.... That didn't age well ::)
The GOP is full of self-serving selfish assholes who care for nothing but their own enrichment.
They will kiss the ass and licks the boots of anyone who either gets them votes or money and will have no courage to stand up to them for fear of risking either.
The only difference between them saying Trump is terrible, and worshiping at his feet, and now starting to back away is how much they fear him.
At least his spell is starting to slip just a bit.. but no worries.. the GOP will find another con man to cower behind and let him destroy teh country as long as he gives them some scraps.
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The GOP is full of self-serving selfish assholes who care for nothing but their own enrichment.
...and the Democrats?
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The GOP is full of self-serving selfish assholes who care for nothing but their own enrichment.
...and the Democrats?
How dare you! The Democrats are pure.
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The GOP is full of self-serving selfish assholes who care for nothing but their own enrichment.
...and the Democrats?
How dare you! The Democrats are pure.
The Democrats aren't pure, but they at least don't continue to support someone who insults them, their wives, their fathers, and anyone who possibly gets in the way.
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The GOP is full of self-serving selfish assholes who care for nothing but their own enrichment.
...and the Democrats?
How dare you! The Democrats are pure.
The Democrats aren't pure
Republicans are pure tho.
...pure shit.
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The GOP is full of self-serving selfish assholes who care for nothing but their own enrichment.
...and the Democrats?
How dare you! The Democrats are pure.
The Democrats aren't pure, but they at least don't continue to support someone who insults them, their wives, their fathers, and anyone who possibly gets in the way.
Well, this is true, but they are a bunch of self serving assholes!
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Well, this is true, but they are a bunch of self serving assholes!
To some degree or other, that's true for every human being on the disc.
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WH Press Secretary claiming that they have been collecting lots of evidence of fraud.
So?
Why give weight to anything that lying dumbarse bimbo says? Do you think she's trustworthy? Are you so pussy whipped?
Mate, she is full of shit. Don't pay any attention to her
Tom, do you believe Trump was right to claim victory when and how he did on election night? I mean with hundreds of thousands of votes still to count he literally called dibs on all the swing states lol
Trump's work seems to be convincing some judges so far.
THROW ‘EM OUT: PA judge sides with Trump campaign, orders ballots with no proof of ID be discarded - https://theleoterrell.com/throw-em-out-pennsylvania-judge-sides-with-trump-campaign-orders-ballots-with-no-proof-of-id-be-discarded/
So how are those lawsuits going for you?
Making lots and lots of progress, right? Going to overturn the vote in PA any day now? No need to panic, you still have 6 days.
Sick of winning yet? :P
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I couldn't help but notice that there's an unusual amount of police cars around today. Maybe because I live close to the state capitol.
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I live out in middle of nowhere Florida and there's supposed to be something happening in town Saturday. I don't know what, but I think a pro Trump rally of some sort.
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A salute to the heroes of the insurrection
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https://abc.net.au/news/2021-01-16/us-political-donations-dry-up-after-capitol-insurrection/13062376
The companies — many consistent Republican donors in the past — are targeting the 147 Republicans who still challenged the results of America's presidential election after the Capitol building was stormed by Donald Trump's supporters on January 6.
Some companies say those Republicans will receive no donations for the rest of their political lives.
"The insurrection at our nation's Capital was a direct assault on one of our country's most revered tenets: the peaceful transition of power," a Disney spokesman told Politico this week.
"In the immediate aftermath of that appalling siege, Members of Congress had an opportunity to unite — an opportunity that some sadly refused to embrace.
"In light of these events, we have decided we will not make political contributions in 2021 to lawmakers who voted to reject the certification of the Electoral College votes."
Ouch.
For all their bluster about sticking up for Trump, this is going to sting. Since all they care about is money it might be enough for the party to take stock and ask themselves just how valuable is Trump
Sucked in to Ted Cruz though. I saw how he harnessed his 'inner Trump' at a rally and it's disturbing he'll probably nominate for president in 2024.
At least now he might find sponsors harder to come by
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Whether or not corporate America has the resolve to stick to this is yet to be seen. No one is running a campaign right now so donations aren't that relevant yet.
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Yeah, they are free to talk tough right now. We'll see what they do in a couple years!
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Footage the Washington Post stitched together during the insurrection. Some of the things the crowd are saying are a little disturbing. This was no out of control mosh pit. A good number of them really seemed intent on murdering lawmakers.
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While all that was happening I was following it on Twitter and the fediverse. I can't stop thinking about the two versions of what happened that day. Twitter was filled with videos of the cops letting them in, and of them walking inside the ropes. Then after the woman was shot, I started seeing the more out of control riot videos. The next day there were two separate stories, one of the cops allowing them in and the other of the cops getting their asses kicked.
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Great video Crouton, thanks for sharing. It baffles me to see how thoroughly these people documented the crime they were in the midst of committing and uploaded it live to the internet. In almost every shot, you can see multiple cell phones recording, GoPros in some, and then later we find out many are on Parler and sharing location data so it's easy to map how far they infiltrated the building and also identify user accounts. The stupidity/audacity/boldness metric is off the charts.
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While all that was happening I was following it on Twitter and the fediverse. I can't stop thinking about the two versions of what happened that day. Twitter was filled with videos of the cops letting them in, and of them walking inside the ropes. Then after the woman was shot, I started seeing the more out of control riot videos. The next day there were two separate stories, one of the cops allowing them in and the other of the cops getting their asses kicked.
I saw the same story, some cops let the rioters in, then when they got out of control others tried and failed to stop them.
Going to be a while before we get the full story, new stuff is coming out every day.
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Holy shit, every new video that comes out seems to show how much worse it was than what the last one showed. This one from the New Yorker shows people rifling through documents to gather, I guess, incriminating congressional info. Then some other perspectives on just how violent the mob was. And jeepers, when you get to 8:45, it's like they are kneeling for a sermon in the Senate chamber. Bizarre stuff.
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I continue to be amazed at the great footage of this very terrible event. The very clear, high quality, widely available, huge amount of video.
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I continue to be amazed at the great footage of this very terrible event. The very clear, high quality, widely available, huge amount of video.
I know. And each one more alarming than the last. I was talking to a MAGA friend of mine Friday night. And of course, he was in that, "It wasn't that bad...I've seen some video, they were walking between the velvet ropes..." mode. Of course I was yelling at him. Can't wait to send the latest off to him.
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So crazy how the slightly less insane ones tried to keep the more insane ones from fucking shit up.
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I like the guy who said they can't sit in Pence's chair. Invade the capitol, that's fine. But sitting in a chair, whoa. Too far.
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"Fuck the blue"?
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They turned on the police real fast.
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And all that "This is an IO!" business. "Information Operation". Kind of creepy. It was the military dude with the zip ties (he found and was looking to return) who kept saying that.
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That guy was also saying something to the effect of "Cruz would want us to do this, so I think we're good" which is just wild
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My uncle believes that was all antifa.
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Great video Crouton, thanks for sharing. It baffles me to see how thoroughly these people documented the crime they were in the midst of committing and uploaded it live to the internet.
These QAnon LARPers have become disconnected from reality. They think they are in a computer game and can restart the level if it goes wrong.
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While all that was happening I was following it on Twitter and the fediverse. I can't stop thinking about the two versions of what happened that day. Twitter was filled with videos of the cops letting them in, and of them walking inside the ropes. Then after the woman was shot, I started seeing the more out of control riot videos. The next day there were two separate stories, one of the cops allowing them in and the other of the cops getting their asses kicked.
Its a big building, so most likely both happened simultaneously.
There was also a video where it seems like a cop is giving hand signals to the protestors to come in, but the video was cut in a way so you couldnt see that she was actually giving signals to the approaching cops.
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I'm not sure what the endgame is. Even if they were to assassinate Biden, Harris and Pelosi. The dems would still be in charge come the 20th.
And what do they think it would look like for the repugnican party to assassinate leaders the other party?
Do they think usiness would go on as usual with the rest of the world? It boggles the mind
And for them to talk about tyranny! ROFL
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I'm not sure what the endgame is. Even if they were to assassinate Biden, Harris and Pelosi. The dems would still be in charge come the 20th.
And what do they think it would look like for the repugnican party to assassinate leaders the other party?
Do they think usiness would go on as usual with the rest of the world? It boggles the mind
And for them to talk about tyranny! ROFL
They'd demand Trump as President, who would happily take it.
10 minutes later the national guard, by order of the current president, would kill everyone.
The right wing would see this as an unjust massacure and use it to radicalize everyone into action.
This is how they do it in the middle east.
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I'm not sure what the endgame is. Even if they were to assassinate Biden, Harris and Pelosi. The dems would still be in charge come the 20th.
And what do they think it would look like for the repugnican party to assassinate leaders the other party?
Do they think usiness would go on as usual with the rest of the world? It boggles the mind
And for them to talk about tyranny! ROFL
The GOP would just claim it was a false flag antifa operation and their dumbass voters would fall for it.
It's terrifying how far into fantasyland they have gone. To the point QAnon supporters are being openly elected.
Even if everyone knew Republicans did the killings, they would just cheer and beg for a dictator to come save them.
I've never seen a group of people so happy to be dominated and controlled like the current right-wing. Please give more of my money to the rich, Sir! And save me from the scary commies and socialists!
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Sometimes you need to laugh at the simulation.
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Sometimes you need to laugh at the simulation.
Only good thing is her cleavage. Unfortunately she talks too much.
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Sometimes you need to laugh at the simulation.
Only good thing is her cleavage. Unfortunately she talks too much.
That's sexist
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Sometimes you need to laugh at the simulation.
Only good thing is her cleavage. Unfortunately she talks too much.
thats sexist
She talks too much because she's saying nothing. Many words, no meaning. Has nothing to do with her gender.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/2021/01/18/pelosi-laptop-riley-june-williams/
An ex-partner of Williams’s, identified only as W1 in court filings, told the FBI that friends of Williams played a video of her stealing the drive or computer from Pelosi’s office, and that Williams “intended to send the computer device to a friend in Russia, who then planned to sell the device to SVR, Russia’s foreign intelligence service,” a criminal complaint states.
This is what it means to be a patriot Trump MAGA. Selling classified information from your government and selling to Russia....
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/2021/01/18/pelosi-laptop-riley-june-williams/
An ex-partner of Williams’s, identified only as W1 in court filings, told the FBI that friends of Williams played a video of her stealing the drive or computer from Pelosi’s office, and that Williams “intended to send the computer device to a friend in Russia, who then planned to sell the device to SVR, Russia’s foreign intelligence service,” a criminal complaint states.
This is what it means to be a patriot Trump MAGA. Selling classified information from your government and selling to Russia....
Potential classified data. According to Pelosi, it was just used for presentations.
But I'm wondering if the IT at the capitol is any good. I mean, no compuTrace? No instant wipe setup? Bitlocker encryption? Or does it have all those and the lady hasn't turned it on yet?
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Something might be happening...
Confirmed now that the Marines are deployed to DC and have full combat gear.
The National Guardsmen in the city were disarmed due to Democrat paranoia, and they tried to vet all 25,000 of them to weed out anybody that voted Republican at all in the last election.
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All signs point to a major military buildup for something big tomorrow, but I don't know what.
Also keep in mind that the USMC's Commandant, who is usually pretty active on social media, has gone completely dark in the last couple of weeks. I also have inside sources that tell me that there are indeed Marines in DC right now, just not what they're doing. Understandable, since they have to maintain OPSEC.
Trump still technically controls the armed forces until 12 PM EST on the 20th. So if they're going to make a move, they have about a day to do it.
It's also possible that they're acting on their own initiative.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/2021/01/18/pelosi-laptop-riley-june-williams/
An ex-partner of Williams’s, identified only as W1 in court filings, told the FBI that friends of Williams played a video of her stealing the drive or computer from Pelosi’s office, and that Williams “intended to send the computer device to a friend in Russia, who then planned to sell the device to SVR, Russia’s foreign intelligence service,” a criminal complaint states.
This is what it means to be a patriot Trump MAGA. Selling classified information from your government and selling to Russia....
Potential classified data. According to Pelosi, it was just used for presentations.
But I'm wondering if the IT at the capitol is any good. I mean, no compuTrace? No instant wipe setup? Bitlocker encryption? Or does it have all those and the lady hasn't turned it on yet?
I guess it's just the intent. She wouldn't think of selling it to Russians if she believed it was harmless presentations. She probably thought it had lots of juicy intel and could sell out her country for a quick buck
Regardless of what was on there, she should be if found guilty be charged with espionage on top of being a treasonous insurrectionist
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All signs point to a major military buildup for something big tomorrow, but I don't know what.
I'm going to take a stab at this, maybe they are preparing for tomorrows inauguration?
Just a wild guess!
I know, that's crazy talk. I'm sure it's all part of Trumps plan instead and not part of the huge event with massive security concerns that's been planned for a year.
But keep on truckin!
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All signs point to a major military buildup for something big tomorrow, but I don't know what.
The beginning of major military actions in Civil War 2.0 are scheduled for tomorrow at 12:01 PM. Didn't you get the memo?
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All signs point to a major military buildup for something big tomorrow, but I don't know what.
I'm going to take a stab at this, maybe they are preparing for tomorrows inauguration?
Just a wild guess!
I know, that's crazy talk. I'm sure it's all part of Trumps plan instead and not part of the huge event with massive security concerns that's been planned for a year.
But keep on truckin!
Lol no, are you out of your mind? Why would the military protect the capitol? Its doors have never been breached ever!!
They plan a coup, obviously, what else would they be doing?!
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/2021/01/18/pelosi-laptop-riley-june-williams/
An ex-partner of Williams’s, identified only as W1 in court filings, told the FBI that friends of Williams played a video of her stealing the drive or computer from Pelosi’s office, and that Williams “intended to send the computer device to a friend in Russia, who then planned to sell the device to SVR, Russia’s foreign intelligence service,” a criminal complaint states.
This is what it means to be a patriot Trump MAGA. Selling classified information from your government and selling to Russia....
Potential classified data. According to Pelosi, it was just used for presentations.
But I'm wondering if the IT at the capitol is any good. I mean, no compuTrace? No instant wipe setup? Bitlocker encryption? Or does it have all those and the lady hasn't turned it on yet?
I guess it's just the intent. She wouldn't think of selling it to Russians if she believed it was harmless presentations. She probably thought it had lots of juicy intel and could sell out her country for a quick buck
Regardless of what was on there, she should be if found guilty be charged with espionage on top of being a treasonous insurrectionist
It's unlikely she'd even know what she's looking at. She probably just assumed, government laptop = the entirety of US classified intel.
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Something might be happening...
Confirmed now that the Marines are deployed to DC and have full combat gear.
The National Guardsmen in the city were disarmed due to Democrat paranoia, and they tried to vet all 25,000 of them to weed out anybody that voted Republican at all in the last election.
This is overstating it a bit. They're just checking their social media accounts for things like qanon or #stopthesteal.
If they banned republicans then we wouldn't have much of a military left over.
Also regarding tomorrow. Maybe an attack will occur. But DC is locked up tighter than a dolphin's butthole right now. We expected riots at all 50 state capitols yesterday. But it turned out that law enforcement outnumbered the protesters.
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Something might be happening...
Confirmed now that the Marines are deployed to DC and have full combat gear.
The National Guardsmen in the city were disarmed due to Democrat paranoia, and they tried to vet all 25,000 of them to weed out anybody that voted Republican at all in the last election.
This is overstating it a bit. They're just checking their social media accounts for things like qanon or #stopthesteal.
If they banned republicans then we wouldn't have much of a military left over.
Also regarding tomorrow. Maybe an attack will occur. But DC is locked up tighter than a dolphin's butthole right now. We expected riots at all 50 state capitols yesterday. But it turned out that law enforcement outnumbered the protesters.
I'm hoping they all stay home but better safe than sorry.
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Something might be happening...
Confirmed now that the Marines are deployed to DC and have full combat gear.
The National Guardsmen in the city were disarmed due to Democrat paranoia, and they tried to vet all 25,000 of them to weed out anybody that voted Republican at all in the last election.
This is overstating it a bit. They're just checking their social media accounts for things like qanon or #stopthesteal.
If they banned republicans then we wouldn't have much of a military left over.
Also regarding tomorrow. Maybe an attack will occur. But DC is locked up tighter than a dolphin's butthole right now. We expected riots at all 50 state capitols yesterday. But it turned out that law enforcement outnumbered the protesters.
I'm hoping they all stay home but better safe than sorry.
100%. If the events of January 6th made anything clear, it was that there exists a subset of Americans that think it's fine to go to great lengths to stop the incoming administration, up to and including sacrificing lives for the cause. It's the right set and setting to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
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All signs point to a major military buildup for something big tomorrow, but I don't know what.
The beginning of major military actions in Civil War 2.0 are scheduled for tomorrow at 12:01 PM. Didn't you get the memo?
LOL.
The Qanons are going to look pretty silly after then. Unless Trump is still playing 5D chess and its all a clever ruse. I'm going with Joe Biden has been cloned and a robotic Kamala Harris is being remote controlled by Trump loyalists, the mass round up of Democratic child traffickers can then begin.
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All signs point to a major military buildup for something big tomorrow, but I don't know what.
The beginning of major military actions in Civil War 2.0 are scheduled for tomorrow at 12:01 PM. Didn't you get the memo?
LOL.
The Qanons are going to look pretty silly after then. Unless Trump is still playing 5D chess and its all a clever ruse. I'm going with Joe Biden has been cloned and a robotic Kamala Harris is being remote controlled by Trump loyalists, the mass round up of Democratic child traffickers can then begin.
Qanons are conspiracy theorists, and can never be proven wrong, will never admit they are wrong.
When nothing happens and Obama and Hillary aren't arrested for their crimes and plots against the people... all it will do is make Qanon even MORE convinced that the shadowy child moldering canabal demon worshiping Democrats is super powerful and needs to be destroyed more than ever.
Even failure just makes them into more crazy lunatics. There will be more deaths, more bombs... the right has helped create a brand new terrorist organization and we will all suffer for it.
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All signs point to a major military buildup for something big tomorrow, but I don't know what.
The beginning of major military actions in Civil War 2.0 are scheduled for tomorrow at 12:01 PM. Didn't you get the memo?
LOL.
The Qanons are going to look pretty silly after then. Unless Trump is still playing 5D chess and its all a clever ruse. I'm going with Joe Biden has been cloned and a robotic Kamala Harris is being remote controlled by Trump loyalists, the mass round up of Democratic child traffickers can then begin.
Don't underestimate the level of crazy in these freaks. Some of them see a 'prophecy' and will self fulfil it. Even if it means killing themselves in a blaze if glory trying to shoot their way to Biden.
So the inauguration happens 3am my time. F'ed if I'm staying or waking up for that.
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Trump even in his final hours is showing what an ass he is.
One of the first things he did as President was issue an executive order to not allow any government employees to join a lobbying firm or work for a foreign government for 5 years after they leave.
It's one of the few things he did that I wholeheartedly agreed with.
On his last day, he just rescinded that order.
So basically he just wanted to keep Obama employees from having jobs. That's all it was, he never really cared, and now that it's his cronies looking to lobby, suddenly it's all right again.
It's not the worse thing he has even done, but it's right up there showing what a fake he is.
I have to wonder what excuses Tom and his worshipers make of it. Probably think it's just fine because Trump's fellow conspirators are all Good People who can handle a lobbying job, unlike the child-molesting slave-ring running cannibal Democrats.
What a complete piece of trash.
Four hours to go... good riddance! I with that 21 gun salute would have hit him in his fat ass on the way to air force one as he fled in full cowardly retreat.
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Trump even in his final hours is showing what an ass he is.
One of the first things he did as President was issue an executive order to not allow any government employees to join a lobbying firm or work for a foreign government for 5 years after they leave.
It's one of the few things he did that I wholeheartedly agreed with.
On his last day, he just rescinded that order.
So basically he just wanted to keep Obama employees from having jobs. That's all it was, he never really cared, and now that it's his cronies looking to lobby, suddenly it's all right again.
It's not the worse thing he has even done, but it's right up there showing what a fake he is.
I have to wonder what excuses Tom and his worshipers make of it. Probably think it's just fine because Trump's fellow conspirators are all Good People who can handle a lobbying job, unlike the child-molesting slave-ring running cannibal Democrats.
What a complete piece of trash.
Four hours to go... good riddance! I with that 21 gun salute would have hit him in his fat ass on the way to air force one as he fled in full cowardly retreat.
So much for "draining the swamp."
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Four hours to go... good riddance! I with that 21 gun salute would have hit him in his fat ass on the way to air force one as he fled in full cowardly retreat.
Yeah, it's a shame that they use blanks for the 21 gun salute. Or, in this case, it might be a good thing.
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Four hours to go... good riddance! I with that 21 gun salute would have hit him in his fat ass on the way to air force one as he fled in full cowardly retreat.
Yeah, it's a shame that they use blanks for the 21 gun salute. Or, in this case, it might be a good thing.
There should have been a crowd funding effort to pay someone in the military band to give Trump a final “wah-wah waaahhh” on the trombone.
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Four hours to go... good riddance! I with that 21 gun salute would have hit him in his fat ass on the way to air force one as he fled in full cowardly retreat.
Yeah, it's a shame that they use blanks for the 21 gun salute. Or, in this case, it might be a good thing.
Blanks at close range can kill, fyi.
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Four hours to go... good riddance! I with that 21 gun salute would have hit him in his fat ass on the way to air force one as he fled in full cowardly retreat.
Yeah, it's a shame that they use blanks for the 21 gun salute. Or, in this case, it might be a good thing.
Blanks at close range can kill, fyi.
Not if your rifle has a flash suppressor or blank firing adapter. Even then, you would need to press the barrel right against their head.
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Four hours to go... good riddance! I with that 21 gun salute would have hit him in his fat ass on the way to air force one as he fled in full cowardly retreat.
Yeah, it's a shame that they use blanks for the 21 gun salute. Or, in this case, it might be a good thing.
Blanks at close range can kill, fyi.
Not if your rifle has a flash suppressor or blank firing adapter. Even then, you would need to press the barrel right against their head.
Yeah, I recall an actor killing himself by accident by shooting himself in the head with a 'blank'. They can even be lethal up to a few inches away, but very quickly become harmless further than that.
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Four hours to go... good riddance! I with that 21 gun salute would have hit him in his fat ass on the way to air force one as he fled in full cowardly retreat.
Yeah, it's a shame that they use blanks for the 21 gun salute. Or, in this case, it might be a good thing.
Blanks at close range can kill, fyi.
Not if your rifle has a flash suppressor or blank firing adapter. Even then, you would need to press the barrel right against their head.
Yeah, I recall an actor killing himself by accident by shooting himself in the head with a 'blank'. They can even be lethal up to a few inches away, but very quickly become harmless further than that.
I wouldnt say harmless but yeah.
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Four hours to go... good riddance! I with that 21 gun salute would have hit him in his fat ass on the way to air force one as he fled in full cowardly retreat.
Yeah, it's a shame that they use blanks for the 21 gun salute. Or, in this case, it might be a good thing.
Blanks at close range can kill, fyi.
Not if your rifle has a flash suppressor or blank firing adapter. Even then, you would need to press the barrel right against their head.
Yeah, I recall an actor killing himself by accident by shooting himself in the head with a 'blank'. They can even be lethal up to a few inches away, but very quickly become harmless further than that.
Yes but that was really more due to the curse that Bruce Lee brought upon his family.
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Brandon Lee, while filming The Crow, was shot by a stunt guy. They were blanks but something like some shards of a bullet were still in the gun. The other dude was the star of some action TV show, messing around with a prop gun, put it to his head and pulled the trigger. Some component of whatever blanks are made of killed him.
These days, I don't even know if they use blanks anymore, all CG. I watched some behind the scenes thing about John Wick - All the muzzle flashes and stuff were added in Post.
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Brandon Lee, while filming The Crow, was shot by a stunt guy. They were blanks but something like some shards of a bullet were still in the gun. The other dude was the star of some action TV show, messing around with a prop gun, put it to his head and pulled the trigger. Some component of whatever blanks are made of killed him.
These days, I don't even know if they use blanks anymore, all CG. I watched some behind the scenes thing about John Wick - All the muzzle flashes and stuff were added in Post.
The guy shot himself in the head with a handgun loaded with blanks as a joke. The paper wad hit his head hard enough that the shockwave shattered a bit of the INSIDE of his skull and sent it into his brain. Instant death, everyone thought he was faking at first because there was no wound or blood.
I bet the insurance savings of not using live ammo of any kind on set offsets the cost of CGI. Which is all done by minimum wage temporary contractors these days and is nearly free.
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Back on topic, I know I said it before, but I think Biden just might actually win this election.
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Back on topic, I know I said it before, but I think Biden just might actually win this election.
It's still too close to call.
But Biden won the "I got more famous people to sing than you did at my inauguration" contest. It helps not to be a toxic asshole when asking for people to perform for you.
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I think it's too early to count out Klobuchar. She seems to be getting a suspicious amount of stage time.
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Well, looks like he finally won.
Congratulations, President Biden.
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Well, looks like he finally won.
Congratulations, President Biden.
God has spoken.
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Well, looks like he finally won.
Congratulations, President Biden.
God has spoken.
Well I do like to be called "M'Lord" during role-play but I wouldn't go THAT far.
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Well, looks like he finally won.
Congratulations, President Biden.
God has spoken.
Well I do like to be called "M'Lord" during role-play but I wouldn't go THAT far.
Kinky
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Well, looks like he finally won.
Congratulations, President Biden.
God has spoken.
Well I do like to be called "M'Lord" during role-play but I wouldn't go THAT far.
Kinky
So JJA is now President, did I miss something?
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You can always rely on Hannity and Fox for a laugh, gruesome tho it is.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsO4WwuVEAA3z3x?format=jpg&name=large)
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You can always rely on Hannity and Fox for a laugh, gruesome tho it is.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsO4WwuVEAA3z3x?format=jpg&name=large)
They're probably just happy they can go back to bashing a Democrat president for stupid things instead of supporting a Republican president for dangerously stupid things.
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You can always rely on Hannity and Fox for a laugh, gruesome tho it is.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsO4WwuVEAA3z3x?format=jpg&name=large)
This shows that fox news actually is against trump, because literally everyone realizes those people have not died in bidens 9h.
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Wait... Is that even a real headline? Look at the roling text.... Something seems fishy.
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But speaking of fox...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-democrats-2000-checks-1400
Apparently Georgia folks can't do math.
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Wait... Is that even a real headline? Look at the roling text.... Something seems fishy.
Well, it is from a source that claims to be a fake news show...
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1.3 billion dollars!
Hot damn, that’s a lot of money.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/25/dominion-rudy-giuliani-lawsuit-election
I hope he knows a good lawyer. Hint: Probably no one he’s worked with recently.
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That's probably why he was charging 20k a day.