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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #120 on: September 09, 2020, 01:46:18 AM »
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And with that, FlatAssembler disappeared in a puff of logic.
Most leading theologians claim that this argument is a load of dingo's kidneys.
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #121 on: September 09, 2020, 02:17:59 AM »
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And with that, FlatAssembler disappeared in a puff of logic.
Most leading theologians claim that this argument is a load of dingo's kidneys.
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #122 on: September 10, 2020, 08:04:39 AM »
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FlatAssembler doesn't exist.
FlatAssembler isn't my real name any more than "Space Cowgirl" is your real name. And we are not claiming those are our real names, though they may appear ironic. Vladimir Putin claims "Vladimir" (ruler of the world) is his real name.

You didn't ask if Vladimir Putin is his real name, you asked if he exists. People change their names. Do women who change their name when they get married cease to exist? Do people who hate their name cease to exist if they legally change it?
Well, yes, we could say that Vladimir Putin exists in the sense that there is a person who uses that name, but not in the sense that it's somebody's real name. And, what do you think, was "Teuta" the real name of the Illyrian queen? Most linguists, as far as I can tell, agree that it wasn't, that it was far more likely a title meaning "mistress of the people".
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #123 on: September 10, 2020, 09:16:59 AM »
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Well, yes, we could say that Vladimir Putin exists in the sense that there is a person who uses that name, but not in the sense that it's somebody's real name.
So, do you have any evidence at all that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was given a different name by his parents?

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And, what do you think, was "Teuta" the real name of the Illyrian queen? Most linguists, as far as I can tell, agree that it wasn't, that it was far more likely a title meaning "mistress of the people".
What has that got to do with anything?
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #124 on: September 10, 2020, 09:24:14 AM »
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Well, yes, we could say that Vladimir Putin exists in the sense that there is a person who uses that name, but not in the sense that it's somebody's real name.
So, do you have any evidence at all that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was given a different name by his parents?

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And, what do you think, was "Teuta" the real name of the Illyrian queen? Most linguists, as far as I can tell, agree that it wasn't, that it was far more likely a title meaning "mistress of the people".
What has that got to do with anything?
If it's reasonable to believe that Teuta(na) was her title rather than a name because Teuta(na) probably meant something like "mistress of the people" in Illyrian, as James Mallory claims in Encyclopedia of Indo-European Culture, then it's also reasonable to believe "Vladimir" isn't Vladimir Putin's real name. In fact, the case can be made even stronger, because we know for certain what "Vladimir" means in Russian, whereas we can't know for certain what Teuta(na) meant in Illyrian.
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #125 on: September 10, 2020, 09:52:12 AM »
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So, do you have any evidence at all that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was given a different name by his parents?
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #126 on: September 10, 2020, 09:53:41 AM »
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So, do you have any evidence at all that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was given a different name by his parents?
The irony in the name "Vladimir" is evidence, isn't it? That is, if the irony in the name Teuta(na) is evidence that wasn't her real name.
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #127 on: September 10, 2020, 10:02:51 AM »
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So, do you have any evidence at all that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was given a different name by his parents?
The irony in the name "Vladimir" is evidence, isn't it?
No, absolutely not. 

It's not even ironic anyway.  If his name meant "Peasant with no power" or similar, then it would be ironic.  A powerful person with a name that means "powerful person" is not irony.

If you are claiming he has changed his name, then you need to indicate when that happened and what evidence you have.   

You know his father was also called Vladimir Putin?  He was a lowly cook*.   I suppose that might be considered ironic, if you really want to go that way.


* Though he was a cook for Vladimir Lenin, who I guess didn't exist either.
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #128 on: September 10, 2020, 10:13:10 AM »
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So, do you have any evidence at all that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was given a different name by his parents?
The irony in the name "Vladimir" is evidence, isn't it?
No, absolutely not. 

It's not even ironic anyway.  If his name meant "Peasant with no power" or similar, then it would be ironic.  A powerful person with a name that means "powerful person" is not irony.

If you are claiming he has changed his name, then you need to indicate when that happened and what evidence you have.   

You know his father was also called Vladimir Putin?  He was a lowly cook*.   I suppose that might be considered ironic, if you really want to go that way.


* Though he was a cook for Vladimir Lenin, who I guess didn't exist either.
So, you think James Mallory was wrong when suggesting Teuta(na) wasn't the real name of the famous Illyrian queen, because Teuta(na) probably meant "mistress of the people" in Illyrian?
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #129 on: September 10, 2020, 10:49:21 AM »
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #130 on: September 10, 2020, 11:05:41 AM »
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #131 on: September 10, 2020, 12:41:44 PM »
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #132 on: September 10, 2020, 12:54:46 PM »
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So, do you have any evidence at all that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was given a different name by his parents?
The irony in the name "Vladimir" is evidence, isn't it?
No, absolutely not. 

It's not even ironic anyway.  If his name meant "Peasant with no power" or similar, then it would be ironic.  A powerful person with a name that means "powerful person" is not irony.

If you are claiming he has changed his name, then you need to indicate when that happened and what evidence you have.   

You know his father was also called Vladimir Putin?  He was a lowly cook*.   I suppose that might be considered ironic, if you really want to go that way.


* Though he was a cook for Vladimir Lenin, who I guess didn't exist either.
So, you think James Mallory was wrong when suggesting Teuta(na) wasn't the real name of the famous Illyrian queen, because Teuta(na) probably meant "mistress of the people" in Illyrian?
We are not talking about a Balkan queen from over 2000 years ago, it's irrelevant. 

I have noticed how you dodge and deflect and totally avoid addressing any points I made.

I'll try again:  have you any evidence that Vladimir Putin was given a different name by his parents and not actually named after his father? 
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #133 on: September 10, 2020, 02:19:56 PM »
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #134 on: September 10, 2020, 03:58:51 PM »
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So, do you have any evidence at all that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was given a different name by his parents?
The irony in the name "Vladimir" is evidence, isn't it?
No, absolutely not. 

It's not even ironic anyway.  If his name meant "Peasant with no power" or similar, then it would be ironic.  A powerful person with a name that means "powerful person" is not irony.

If you are claiming he has changed his name, then you need to indicate when that happened and what evidence you have.   

You know his father was also called Vladimir Putin?  He was a lowly cook*.   I suppose that might be considered ironic, if you really want to go that way.


* Though he was a cook for Vladimir Lenin, who I guess didn't exist either.
So, you think James Mallory was wrong when suggesting Teuta(na) wasn't the real name of the famous Illyrian queen, because Teuta(na) probably meant "mistress of the people" in Illyrian?
We are not talking about a Balkan queen from over 2000 years ago, it's irrelevant. 

I have noticed how you dodge and deflect and totally avoid addressing any points I made.

I'll try again:  have you any evidence that Vladimir Putin was given a different name by his parents and not actually named after his father?
I think I have slightly more evidence than Mallory has for his claim that "Teuta(na)" wasn't her real name. Mallory can only guess that "Teuta(na)" meant "mistress of the tribe" in Illyrian, because there is nobody speaking Illyrian to confirm that. On the other hand, I can know for certain that "Vladimir" can be read as "ruler of the world" in Russian.
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #135 on: September 10, 2020, 05:02:25 PM »
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So, do you have any evidence at all that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was given a different name by his parents?
The irony in the name "Vladimir" is evidence, isn't it?
No, absolutely not. 

It's not even ironic anyway.  If his name meant "Peasant with no power" or similar, then it would be ironic.  A powerful person with a name that means "powerful person" is not irony.

If you are claiming he has changed his name, then you need to indicate when that happened and what evidence you have.   

You know his father was also called Vladimir Putin?  He was a lowly cook*.   I suppose that might be considered ironic, if you really want to go that way.


* Though he was a cook for Vladimir Lenin, who I guess didn't exist either.
So, you think James Mallory was wrong when suggesting Teuta(na) wasn't the real name of the famous Illyrian queen, because Teuta(na) probably meant "mistress of the people" in Illyrian?
We are not talking about a Balkan queen from over 2000 years ago, it's irrelevant. 

I have noticed how you dodge and deflect and totally avoid addressing any points I made.

I'll try again:  have you any evidence that Vladimir Putin was given a different name by his parents and not actually named after his father?
I think I have slightly more evidence than Mallory has for his claim that "Teuta(na)" wasn't her real name. Mallory can only guess that "Teuta(na)" meant "mistress of the tribe" in Illyrian, because there is nobody speaking Illyrian to confirm that. On the other hand, I can know for certain that "Vladimir" can be read as "ruler of the world" in Russian.

Why are you not answering the question? Have you gone from Putin doesn't exist because his name is slightly ironic to he does exist, but changed his name to reflect his position? If so, where's the evidence for the name change?

As pointed out several times, President of Russia Vladimir Putin's dad's name was Vladimir Spiridonovich Putin. Does that offer you any insight?
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #136 on: September 10, 2020, 05:29:33 PM »
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So, do you have any evidence at all that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was given a different name by his parents?
The irony in the name "Vladimir" is evidence, isn't it?
Not as ironic as all of the people named "Vladimir" who aren't leader of the world.
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #137 on: September 11, 2020, 01:31:00 AM »
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So, do you have any evidence at all that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was given a different name by his parents?
The irony in the name "Vladimir" is evidence, isn't it?
No, absolutely not. 

It's not even ironic anyway.  If his name meant "Peasant with no power" or similar, then it would be ironic.  A powerful person with a name that means "powerful person" is not irony.

If you are claiming he has changed his name, then you need to indicate when that happened and what evidence you have.   

You know his father was also called Vladimir Putin?  He was a lowly cook*.   I suppose that might be considered ironic, if you really want to go that way.


* Though he was a cook for Vladimir Lenin, who I guess didn't exist either.
So, you think James Mallory was wrong when suggesting Teuta(na) wasn't the real name of the famous Illyrian queen, because Teuta(na) probably meant "mistress of the people" in Illyrian?
We are not talking about a Balkan queen from over 2000 years ago, it's irrelevant. 

I have noticed how you dodge and deflect and totally avoid addressing any points I made.

I'll try again:  have you any evidence that Vladimir Putin was given a different name by his parents and not actually named after his father?
I think I have slightly more evidence than Mallory has for his claim that "Teuta(na)" wasn't her real name. Mallory can only guess that "Teuta(na)" meant "mistress of the tribe" in Illyrian, because there is nobody speaking Illyrian to confirm that. On the other hand, I can know for certain that "Vladimir" can be read as "ruler of the world" in Russian.
OK, so you do not have evidence Vladimir Putin was given a different name by his parents.

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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #138 on: September 11, 2020, 07:16:44 AM »
If Vladimir Putin was named after his father (not at all uncommon in pretty much any society), then it's very possible that his father was named after Vladimir Lenin.  After all, how better to show your patriotism than to name your first born son after a hero of the revolution?
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Re: Does Vladimir Putin exist?
« Reply #139 on: September 12, 2020, 04:46:46 AM »
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