Please Define AETHER

I have noticed that the word "aether" is used multiple times by different people on these forums.  I searched the Flat Earth Wiki for its definition and could only find one reference which mentioned AETHERIC EDDIFICATION as a sub-heading.  But this entry is vacant.

What is aetheric eddification?  It has been suggested that aether may have no mass (substance?) so how can it form eddies?  TIA.

EVeryone has different definitions. Vauxhall has a fluid which somehow has no mass, JRowe says it's the same as space, and I don't think anyone else has offered a clear description. A handful of FEers reject it entirely.
Basically aether is whatever's convenient.

Einstein used the word aether, so it must exist.

(just thought I would get that in before Jroa)

Aether = Aether

It's pretty straightforward really.

Aether is a substance with no mass, but great power. Probably released after the Big Bang and has been flowing upward (relative) in space ever since. Whatever is trapped (mostly stray matter) in this upward flow eventually gets condensed into a disc. It is theorized that there are many separate aetheric flows in the universe (which means many possible disc planets), but only ours has been identified. FE scientists are currently working to find these other aetheric flows in space so that we can discover life on the discs formed by them. As you know, the resources of our disc are dwindling, and I believe this search for more life may just be an attempt to steal resources.

...FE scientists...

Names? Records? Could you please link us to their work?

Quote from: Vauxhall on April 13, 2015, 09:44:38 AM

...FE scientists...

Names? Records? Could you please link us to their work?

I can't give you that information. It's confidential. I'm sorry.

Quote from: BiJane on April 13, 2015, 10:02:18 AM

Names? Records? Could you please link us to their work?

I can't give you that information. It's confidential. I'm sorry.

Q1:  Why—specifically—are the names of the scientists who you claim are working on flat earth theory confidential?
Q2:  Shouldn't they be publicly announcing their (presumably positive) research results in order to educate the public as to the "true" shape of the planet?
Q3:  When will their names and their research data be made public?

I can't give you that information. It's confidential. I'm sorry.

Actually, I think a better question than Geoff's would be why?

Large scale conspiratorial reasons. I appreciate your understanding.

Large scale conspiratorial reasons. I appreciate your understanding.

How do you "know" it then?

Quote from: Vauxhall on April 13, 2015, 02:17:22 PM

Large scale conspiratorial reasons. I appreciate your understanding.

How do you "know" it then?

Most of us are aware of the research. I'll just put it this way: the Earth is flat. We have science to prove it.

However, we cannot provide this evidence because it would most likely be deleted or discredited and I would disappear from this forum. I want to stay alive, you know? That's a common human emotion, right?

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on April 13, 2015, 02:18:29 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on April 13, 2015, 02:17:22 PM

Large scale conspiratorial reasons. I appreciate your understanding.

How do you "know" it then?

Most of us are aware of the research. I'll just put it this way: the Earth is flat. We have science to prove it.

However, we cannot provide this evidence because it would most likely be deleted or discredited and I would disappear from this forum. I want to stay alive, you know? That's a common human emotion, right?

How do you "know" it then?
You didn't answer the question.

Quote from: Vauxhall on April 13, 2015, 02:20:34 PM

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on April 13, 2015, 02:18:29 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on April 13, 2015, 02:17:22 PM

Large scale conspiratorial reasons. I appreciate your understanding.

How do you "know" it then?

Most of us are aware of the research. I'll just put it this way: the Earth is flat. We have science to prove it.

However, we cannot provide this evidence because it would most likely be deleted or discredited and I would disappear from this forum. I want to stay alive, you know? That's a common human emotion, right?

How do you "know" it then?
You didn't answer the question.

That's confidential.

That's confidential.

May I ask how one would go about getting access to it?
If there are several scientists at work, clearly you are not the only one who possesses the knowledge. If it is too much to ask, to know how to gain access, can we have a general idea of who else has this information? Clearly it is not confidential to know who possesses it, as you came clean so easily.
A general idea would be good. Pongo? Jroa? JRowe? Scepti? Did Flatbrainer hear it and tha was what drove him insane?

Quote from: Vauxhall on April 13, 2015, 02:37:56 PM

That's confidential.

May I ask how one would go about getting access to it?
If there are several scientists at work, clearly you are not the only one who possesses the knowledge. If it is too much to ask, to know how to gain access, can we have a general idea of who else has this information? Clearly it is not confidential to know who possesses it, as you came clean so easily.
A general idea would be good. Pongo? Jroa? JRowe? Scepti? Did Flatbrainer hear it and tha was what drove him insane?

The moderation team knows this information. I can't speak for Scepti, although I suspect from his posts that he knows as well. Flatbrainer? I don't even know who that is.

The moderation team knows this information. I can't speak for Scepti, although I suspect from his posts that he knows as well. Flatbrainer? I don't even know who that is.

And JRowe?

If Scepti's posts imply he has knowledge of the Flat Earth scientists, may we conclude the work remains inconclusive, at this stage? After all, Scepti rejects aether and acceleration, instead relying on air pressure, for example: that's quite a major feature.

Quote from: Vauxhall on April 13, 2015, 02:50:18 PM

The moderation team knows this information. I can't speak for Scepti, although I suspect from his posts that he knows as well. Flatbrainer? I don't even know who that is.

And JRowe?

If Scepti's posts imply he has knowledge of the Flat Earth scientists, may we conclude the work remains inconclusive, at this stage? After all, Scepti rejects aether and acceleration, instead relying on air pressure, for example: that's quite a major feature.

The research is conclusive. It shows that the Earth is flat. The exact nature of the Earth disc, what keeps it afloat, what causes the phenomenon known as universal acceleration... that's all still up in the air, no pun. This is why there are various theories floating about regarding these issues.

Please keep in mind that I won't be able to tell you much more than this. I have already said too much.

I understand now why they act as being trolls. It's the perfect camouflage. They can't spread the truth too open, but the hints are everywhere. It's a damn dangerous game! You can't but admire their courage and intelligence! 

What a fool I've been! But now I see. 

I have noticed that the word "aether" is used multiple times by different people on these forums.  I searched the Flat Earth Wiki for its definition and could only find one reference which mentioned AETHERIC EDDIFICATION as a sub-heading.  But this entry is vacant.

What is aetheric eddification?  It has been suggested that aether may have no mass (substance?) so how can it form eddies?  TIA.

the wiki is out of date.
aether is the fabric of space, in the dual earth model. it does not need mass to have an effect, as we rely on space to exist. think of it as a way to alter distance.

Quote from: BiJane on April 13, 2015, 02:53:42 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on April 13, 2015, 02:50:18 PM

The moderation team knows this information. I can't speak for Scepti, although I suspect from his posts that he knows as well. Flatbrainer? I don't even know who that is.

And JRowe?

If Scepti's posts imply he has knowledge of the Flat Earth scientists, may we conclude the work remains inconclusive, at this stage? After all, Scepti rejects aether and acceleration, instead relying on air pressure, for example: that's quite a major feature.

The research is conclusive. It shows that the Earth is flat. The exact nature of the Earth disc, what keeps it afloat, what causes the phenomenon known as universal acceleration... that's all still up in the air, no pun. This is why there are various theories floating about regarding these issues.

Please keep in mind that I won't be able to tell you much more than this. I have already said too much.

Now I know you're lying. I have access to research at a higher, more confidential level than you. It shows the earth is not a disc but a flat triangle.

Still flat. I don't know the exact dimensions of Earth.

Now I know you're lying. I have access to research at a higher, more confidential level than you. It shows the earth is not a disc but a flat triangle.

What happened to the torus? 

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on April 14, 2015, 10:40:21 AM

Now I know you're lying. I have access to research at a higher, more confidential level than you. It shows the earth is not a disc but a flat triangle.

What happened to the torus? 

I still believe in it, but the ultra-high level top secret info that is above what Vauxhell can see claims it to be a flat triangle. However, there are even higher levels of clearance that nobody - not even hoppy - has access to, and I am quite certain that documents at that level of clearance will reveal it to be a torus. I cannot prove this, however, just like Vauxy.

Quote from: BiJane on April 14, 2015, 10:46:55 AM

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on April 14, 2015, 10:40:21 AM

Now I know you're lying. I have access to research at a higher, more confidential level than you. It shows the earth is not a disc but a flat triangle.

What happened to the torus? 

I still believe in it, but the ultra-high level top secret info that is above what Vauxhell can see claims it to be a flat triangle. However, there are even higher levels of clearance that nobody - not even hoppy - has access to, and I am quite certain that documents at that level of clearance will reveal it to be a torus. I cannot prove this, however, just like Vauxy.

And beyond the Torus Files you will find another level of top secret that reveals the flatness of the Earth. You are simply part of their disinformation control group.

And beyond the Torus Files you will find another level of top secret that reveals the flatness of the Earth. You are simply part of their disinformation control group.

How do you know there aren't more files above those you have access to, which reveal a different shape to the Earth?
You clearly are not familiar with those that suggest the Earth is a rhombicuboctahedron.

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on April 14, 2015, 11:15:39 AM

Quote from: BiJane on April 14, 2015, 10:46:55 AM

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on April 14, 2015, 10:40:21 AM

Now I know you're lying. I have access to research at a higher, more confidential level than you. It shows the earth is not a disc but a flat triangle.

What happened to the torus? 

I still believe in it, but the ultra-high level top secret info that is above what Vauxhell can see claims it to be a flat triangle. However, there are even higher levels of clearance that nobody - not even hoppy - has access to, and I am quite certain that documents at that level of clearance will reveal it to be a torus. I cannot prove this, however, just like Vauxy.

And beyond the Torus Files you will find another level of top secret that reveals the flatness of the Earth. You are simply part of their disinformation control group.

You can't know that, because your clearance is not high enough to see the Triangle Files, therefore you also can't see what is above the level above that.

Bijane, your theory has merit. I suggest you make up some magic goo to explain how it ties in with observation. You could call it... hmm, how about Aether?

Quote from: Vauxhall on April 14, 2015, 11:36:52 AM

And beyond the Torus Files you will find another level of top secret that reveals the flatness of the Earth. You are simply part of their disinformation control group.

How do you know there aren't more files above those you have access to, which reveal a different shape to the Earth?
You clearly are not familiar with those that suggest the Earth is a rhombicuboctahedron.

I'm glad to see that people begin to approach my matrix theory of reality. How else could earth be a rhombicuthing that sometimes appears as a triangle and sometimes as a torus.

I'm glad to see that people begin to approach my matrix theory of reality. How else could earth be a rhombicuthing that sometimes appears as a triangle and sometimes as a torus.

Actually it's like the story of the blind men and the elephant. Everyone reaches out, and from their limited perspectives, they gain different conclusions. One grasps a side, and concludes it flat. Another finds a triangle, and another a torus. Only, instead of an elephant, it's a rhombicuboctahedron.

Quote from: FalseProphet on April 14, 2015, 12:59:07 PM

I'm glad to see that people begin to approach my matrix theory of reality. How else could earth be a rhombicuthing that sometimes appears as a triangle and sometimes as a torus.

Actually it's like the story of the blind men and the elephant. Everyone reaches out, and from their limited perspectives, they gain different conclusions. One grasps a side, and concludes it flat. Another finds a triangle, and another a torus. Only, instead of an elephant, it's a rhombicuboctahedron.

I looked up that rhombicombi. How blind can one be to see it as a torus?