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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Evolution and religion

« on: September 15, 2008, 06:51:51 PM »

No. We were never chimpanzees. You are dumb. Get the fuck off.

chimpanzees, apes, gorrilas, it's the theory that counts. moron.

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 06:45:49 PM »

I would like to find a cohesive video disproving the conspiracy. I'm not trying to make any implications, but there aren't many. I haven't found any, but I would enjoy watching the video.

I would like to find a cohesive video disproving the reptilian overlords. I'm not trying to make any implications, but there aren't many. I haven't found any, but I would enjoy watching the video.

i couldn't help but lol 

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Gravitation is caused by electromagnetism

« on: September 15, 2008, 02:39:11 PM »

How high?

As high as possible. If that fails to yield a positive result, then we go higher still.

I invite you to exit the plane at this altitude.

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 02:14:15 PM »

"most are more along the lines of left wing"

your saying that most of the people who support Bush think the WTC is a US Conspiracy?

I tried searching with google and couldnt find any.

anyway nobody has yet explained why the existing support provided no resistance at all to the building. the building fell in 15 seconds, for an object in a vacuum to fall the same distance it would take 10 seconds. The 5 seconds can be accounted for by airresistance, airpressure, and solid resistance, however it cannot be accounted for by strong building archetectural foundations)

Bush is right wing..... Are you slow?

I said bush is right wing at first. The second post was a mistake.

anyway will someone post a video proving that it isn't.

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 12:52:37 PM »

anyway nobody has yet explained why the existing support provided no resistance at all to the building.

READ MY POST AGAIN.

So PM has a video of it? I think videos are more educational.

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 12:43:14 PM »

"most are more along the lines of left wing"

your saying that most of the people who support Bush think the WTC is a US Conspiracy?

I tried searching with google and couldnt find any.

anyway nobody has yet explained why the existing support provided no resistance at all to the building. the building fell in 15 seconds, for an object in a vacuum to fall the same distance it would take 10 seconds. The 5 seconds can be accounted for by airresistance, airpressure, and solid resistance, however it cannot be accounted for by strong building archetectural foundations)

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 12:39:55 PM »

I would like to find a cohesive video disproving the conspiracy. I'm not trying to make any implications, but there aren't many. I haven't found any, but I would enjoy watching the video.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Evolution and religion

« on: September 15, 2008, 12:35:34 PM »

We evolved from chimpanzees. they climb trees to evade predators. then we evolved to stronger and bigger apelike creatures. we beat up predators occasionally but mostly we still climbed trees. then our brains got bigger. We threw stones at predators and even beat them down with tree limbs. eventually our brains got even bigger. we figured out how to sharpen the sticks and we cut predators and ate them for breakfast. then we found fire and forged swords and killing predators was even easier...bla bla bla bla the ligers and tigers that tried to eat humans did not live long enough to reproduce, the only ones that remained were the one's that thought we taste bad...

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 12:21:44 PM »

Hey it's true? 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The argument of disproving God.

« on: September 15, 2008, 12:16:46 PM »

Seems to me you believe in a God who is emotionally un-stable (sending people to the worse place of torture ever existing for eternity because they believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.) That would be like Bret Favre killing everybody who doesn't watch football (except ten times worse.)

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 12:12:56 PM »

Isn't it kind of funny though how most of the people who disbelieve the conspiracy are usually right-wing conservative Uncle Sams?

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 12:08:29 PM »

Well I shall believe it is a missile until the Government releases the confiscated vids of it (being a missile.)

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 11:05:10 AM »

also how do u explain the pentagon? the plane disapeared? LOL

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 10:33:50 AM »

Maybe...maybe I'll be generous and say it makes sense for a few floors near the crash site. But how the hell did all the rest of the floors lose their integrity? 

The theory is, their compounding weight crashing down, structurally collapsed each floor, attaining free-fall speed. My toothpick bridges in elementary school seem to discount this theory though.

But, the steel girders were built to account for this, and even if they were built incorrectly they should have put some sort of force against the falling...which isn't apparent in the WTC videos. Obviously they held up the building for 50 years so they couldn't have been as weak as you say.

If you try to demolish a skyscraper, by destroying a few of the middle floors, it won't happen.

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 10:18:07 AM »

The funny thing is all your arguments do not work. Just like any conspiracy theory. The empire state building has a completely different structural support system. The planes that hit the twin towers had completely full fuel tanks. The metal lost all structural integrity, then the cement brought itself down. Guess how they demo a building? They blow out the supports, then let it's weight bring it down. Wow. That actually makes.... sense.

Maybe...maybe I'll be generous and say it makes sense for a few floors near the crash site. But how the hell did all the rest of the floors lose their integrity? 

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 10:14:35 AM »

Air pressure ain't that powerful. It may have pushed debris, but not much more.

It only "hints"

For both our sakes, it would make our arguments a lot more solid if it did.

Never heard of it but I believe you.

Can you explain how the building fell so fast though? If the supports weren't removed before the incident, it would have fallen a lot slower (less than 9 m/s2?)

Also, how did airpressure turn the building to dust?

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 09:42:50 AM »

But how did this fuel spread to every section of the building?

I didn't.  Although it did spread down through a few floors.  Where were these secondaries you speak of, and when did they occur?

well just watch it falling. u see explosions on every side. Also, a question: Have you ever seen videos of tall buildings that have been demolished? They go the exact same way as the WTC. Also these vids were around before the wtc. Now, if there are any videos that show a building falling because of a plane, I'd like to see them, because it's never happened before.

Also, how could it fall at free-fall speeds unless all of the supports in the building were gone.

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 09:35:21 AM »

But how did this fuel spread to every section of the building?

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 09:20:09 AM »

Never heard of the 20$ bill one before, and I don't believe most of those "forced math superstitions", but this one's kind of neat. Anyway, if the US killed him it would prove the conspiracy to the extreme.

-I am currently researching this
-Researching
-These were significant secondaries
-But there were failsafes
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-No, I am saying if the building were as weak as you say, it would have toppled.

A little research has brought me to the following conclusions:

-There is conflicting data on this. If the WTC is really a conspiracy, it obviously involves the media, the internet, and possibly the engineers who built the WTC. However, one site claims that the WTC could possibly withstand a 707 but not a 767. However, a 707 has a higher maximum speed than a 767. Though I do not claim the Force equation to equate with the Damage equation, a 767 would have more kinetic energy crashing into a building than a 707.
-At 9:49 a.m., the ten-ton, B-25 bomber smashed into the north side of the Empire State Building. The majority of the plane hit the 79th floor, creating a hole in the building eighteen feet wide and twenty feet high. The plane's high-octane fuel exploded, hurtling flames down the side of the building and inside through hallways and stairwells all the way down to the 75th floor. The plane crash killed 14 people (11 office workers and the three crewmen) plus injured 26 others. Though the integrity of the Empire State Building was not affected, the cost of the damage done by the crash was $1 million. The speed was 225 mph.
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-If the building fell down due corrosion you would have heard the metal bending and it would have fell down slowly and irregularly.

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 09:10:31 AM »

-Can you redirect me to a site that lists the WTC archetectural integrity specifications?
-You would think 70 years later buildings would be stronger.
-The effect of the plane crashing?
-Well there are secondary supports.
-It only "hints"
-Ok.
-No if the plane crashed like it did on tv the building would have toppled over not have fallen vertically

thankyou all for believing the conspiracy

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 15, 2008, 09:00:36 AM »

If you feel that the 9/11 attacks were wrong, then why did you do them?

Osama didn't destroy the buildings! He was employed by the CIA (for a second time) to hijack the planes! The US did the dirty work by planting demo charges!

the evidence:

-the wtc was built to withstand the impact of large passenger planes
-70 years earlier, a large military transport plane crashed into the empire state building...and nothing happened to the building
-there are secondary and tertiary explosions after the effect
-the fuel wasn't hot enough to melt the supports
-a few weeks earlier the wtc was evacuated so some "engineers" could access the building
-a few policemen were censored for inferring that there was a bomb
-the building fell exactly the same way as every professionally demolished multi-story building

someone said that they could disprove this, I invite you to please try

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: My dear christian...

« on: September 15, 2008, 08:32:33 AM »

in Islam you should know that when the day of judgment comes no human can withstand what's going on that day, he would be as what was described quoted from the Quran in the previous posts. For example the Sun will be so close to humans, some humans would be standing 50,000 years waiting to be judged by God, your sweats will reach your mouth because of the weather on that day and god will change the earth and the heavens and do you seriously believe you can think of anything else when you see such thing? no god proves that humans on that day would be acting as he described in his book maybe some of it was described in the Old Testament and the Bible as well.

So when God finishes judging people, if for example you believed in God and entered heaven, before entering heaven god removes every hatred or greedy...etc from your heart and then you enter, while your GF or wife who was atheists will be thrown to hell. In heaven you will be given virgins more than what you asked, no matter how much you loved or how much can come up in your life in heaven all this will be changed, you would have a virgin wearing a pearl this pearl alone if appeared in our world would light the whole sky...etc and so many good things so your heart wouldn't be driven to those who are in hell and since god removed sadness feeling or any negative feelings from ur heart before entering you would never feel sad about them.

However they would be taking punishments for eternity and maybe  you would be given a chance to see your friends their crying, please help me, give me water, at that time you would be thanking and praising god because he saved you from being thrown in hell and you would thank god that you didn't follow your friend in the life and became Atheist.

Honestly this is a very very huge subject and if you want you can create a topic and ask about this day and hell and heaven. To put it simply, when you enter heaven every negative feelings will be removed from your heart.

God is being just! He gave humans so many chances, he showed them many signs, thousands maybe however they still refused to believe in his existence. It's like if your my servent, and I am feeding you, giving you cloths and place to sleep and supporting you and instead of saying thank you AbdulAziz you went to someone else thanking him. Do you think I would accept it? same thing goes for God!

As for the free will, well in this life you have the free will like the Jinns to choose which end you want to be in, because there is a trial, but once you go into heaven there is no trial or two ways, you will be for eternity there that's in heaven. You will be like Angels, they can never disobey god or do anything without his will humans. They were created just to obey God and praise him. Which means in heaven we are created only to live there in joy and praise God. If humans does have their free will there, who knows maybe one of them would exactly do what Satan did and then another cycle of life and death might start.

However if for example you knew that your way is in heaven and your wife into hell, she still have the chance to be in heaven after being punished In Hell. You would be asking god, oh god my wife, my dear friends are in hell please god forgive them....etc and so god says see anyone who was worshiping god alone, if he the least of believe and take him out from hell... However if she was worshiping anyone beside Allah (Almighty God) she would be in hell for eternity.

Like the Angels who are in the heavens, they are asking god to forgive believers mistakes...etc Same thing would be that time.

Well it seems this God person acts very envious indeed.

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 11, 2008, 12:20:09 PM »

Speaking of WTC, Osama didn't make it fall down!

I totally agree.  Physics did. 

LOL, I would have been dissapointed if you hadn't of said that! 

Any way, I am saying that the US used demolition charges to make the WTC fall.

I know.  I am making fun of how stupid you are for thinking that. 

Oh yeah, I am stupid, AND you are smart! I thouroughly enjoyed reading the counter-evidence you provided for my claim as well! 

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 11, 2008, 10:50:38 AM »

Speaking of WTC, Osama didn't make it fall down!

I totally agree.  Physics did. 

LOL, I would have been dissapointed if you hadn't of said that! 

Any way, I am saying that the US used demolition charges to make the WTC fall.

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The Lounge / Re: Happy 9/11

« on: September 11, 2008, 09:30:59 AM »

Speaking of WTC, Osama didn't make it fall down!

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The Lounge / Re: Amazing epiphany I just had

« on: September 09, 2008, 10:22:10 AM »

Just because you don't agree with my philosophy doesn't mean it's not philosophy.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: hi im new

« on: September 09, 2008, 10:11:36 AM »

sorry never was a Jew or Catholic. also you FEs think you can gang up on me like a bitch. well i guarantee that in real life i would be able to kill you.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Burden of Proof

« on: September 09, 2008, 09:58:10 AM »

why don't you drive to florida and get a telescope and watch the space shuttle take off? and go to outerspace? 

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The Lounge / Re: Amazing epiphany I just had

« on: September 09, 2008, 09:47:04 AM »

Philosophy is the study of general problems concerning matters such as existence, knowledge, truth, justice, beauty, validity, mind, and language.

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The Lounge / Re: Amazing epiphany I just had

« on: September 09, 2008, 09:43:57 AM »

well it is philosophical