Non-Infinite Universe, Universal Expansion, Gravity, Big Bangs and a Flat Earth

Quote from: Saint Raist on May 08, 2008, 10:19:39 PM

Light goes at the speed of light from any frame of reference. If you are going 1 m/s slower than the speed of light, and i shot a laser by you, you would watch it go by at what would still appear to be the speed of light. Though the spectrum would be greatly shifted for you. And as for the greater than speed of light crap. Information can't travel faster than light. So your point is inapplicable.

Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

I don't think he's getting it...

Quote from: Ski on May 08, 2008, 10:24:03 PM

I don't think he's getting it...

He's not, but he's just a troll anyway, so I'm sure whatever logic, science or theory I presented him with, he would have a nonsensical contradiction. That's the last you'll from me about it.

It's not a theory, it's a fact. If it were possible for anything to move faster than the speed of light (and it is not), reflection of any kind would not be possible. Light isn't going to go faster than the speed of itself.

EDIT: If you're still confused, take into mind that stars that have gone out many light years ago are still visible.

wrong he.....

Female.

Quote from: Doctor Yotsuba on May 08, 2008, 10:17:28 PM

It's not a theory, it's a fact. If it were possible for anything to move faster than the speed of light (and it is not), reflection of any kind would not be possible. Light isn't going to go faster than the speed of itself.

So what if you were in a space ship going .9c.  How long would you have to wait for your reflection?

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EDIT: If you're still confused, take into mind that stars that have gone out many light years ago are still visible.

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

Then to be fair, ma'am, I was referring to you. However, I will grant that you've behaved splendidly in your time here and shown a willingness to listen that is rare on the board.

Getting what then, the fact that Saint Raist is a troll? Yeah, I get that. You're going to have to excuse me for being a bit oblivious, at times - I don't exactly take part in many internet communities as more than a casual observer.

Quote from: Doctor Yotsuba on May 08, 2008, 10:22:25 PM

Quote from: Saint Raist on May 08, 2008, 10:19:39 PM

Light goes at the speed of light from any frame of reference. If you are going 1 m/s slower than the speed of light, and i shot a laser by you, you would watch it go by at what would still appear to be the speed of light. Though the spectrum would be greatly shifted for you. And as for the greater than speed of light crap. Information can't travel faster than light. So your point is inapplicable.

Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

Light goes at the same speed from any frame of reference.

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on May 08, 2008, 10:23:24 PM

Quote from: Doctor Yotsuba on May 08, 2008, 10:22:25 PM

Quote from: Saint Raist on May 08, 2008, 10:19:39 PM

Light goes at the speed of light from any frame of reference. If you are going 1 m/s slower than the speed of light, and i shot a laser by you, you would watch it go by at what would still appear to be the speed of light. Though the spectrum would be greatly shifted for you. And as for the greater than speed of light crap. Information can't travel faster than light. So your point is inapplicable.

Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

Light goes at the same speed from any frame of reference.

No, the speed of light is constant for all frames of reference.

Light itself can travel at subluminal speeds.

Still, I don't think the distinction will matter, nor do I think you didn't know, nor will anyone care.

Why the post?

Well I felt like I needed to contradict someone.

Why you?

Not sure, and usually we are basically in wild agreement.

So again, why the post?

Good question, I can click "Post" or I can click "View new replies"

If my decisions were inside of a box, and could not be observed...

Is there perhaps a universe out there where this reply doesn't exist?

Without disputing what you've said as it pertains to RE theory, what does this have to do with the relative speed of light?

Quote from: Ski on May 08, 2008, 10:38:02 PM

Then to be fair, ma'am, I was referring to you. However, I will grant that you've behaved splendidly in your time here and shown a willingness to listen that is rare on the board.

Getting what then, the fact that Saint Raist is a troll? Yeah, I get that. You're going to have to excuse me for being a bit oblivious, at times - I don't exactly take part in many internet communities as more than a casual observer.

If my decisions were inside of a box, and could not be observed...

Is there perhaps a universe out there where this reply doesn't exist?

I'd get a mirror very quickly, but try not to break the speed of light while  looking at it, you might find out that you are wrong.

Quote from: Doctor Yotsuba on May 08, 2008, 10:17:28 PM

It's not a theory, it's a fact. If it were possible for anything to move faster than the speed of light (and it is not), reflection of any kind would not be possible. Light isn't going to go faster than the speed of itself.

So what if you were in a space ship going .9c.  How long would you have to wait for your reflection?

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EDIT: If you're still confused, take into mind that stars that have gone out many light years ago are still visible.

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

If a star "goes out", we can still see the light, sometimes from millions of years ago, and it will be millions more before it actually stops shining when you're looking from earth. Making a connection?!

Quote from: Doctor Yotsuba on May 08, 2008, 10:35:41 PM

Female.

Then to be fair, ma'am, I was referring to you. However, I will grant that you've behaved splendidly in your time here and shown a willingness to listen that is rare on the board.

From where do people adopt the assumption that time is recorded and can be traversed? Travelling "faster than light" would not tear the fabric of time, it would only affect the render time. For instance; if you were to look into a mirror while travelling faster than light speed, you would not see your reflection.

Quote from: Doctor Yotsuba on May 08, 2008, 06:04:00 PM

From where do people adopt the assumption that time is recorded and can be traversed? Travelling "faster than light" would not tear the fabric of time, it would only affect the render time. For instance; if you were to look into a mirror while travelling faster than light speed, you would not see your reflection.

Only if the mirror were stationary, if it was on the spaceship with you then relatively speaking you'd see it as normal because the light on board the ship would be travelling at light speed+the speed the ship is going at. It's the same way you can hear things on board a supersonic airliner

Quote from: Wakka Wakka on May 08, 2008, 02:37:53 PM

I know this is kind of a "little kid" question but what would be on the other side of the wall?

Most likely nothing. Empty space.

If you could travel faster than the speed of light, you would go back in time.