You can't lay all the blame on PL. You guys respond to every fucking post he makes. He flings the poop, you set it on fire.
I know, am attempting to fix that, I am just as guilty. My posting has been slowing down, and it will continue as such. More than likely I will end up blocking him and a few others completely. Though most of the upper fora is either him and his cult or people responding to him and his cult. So I would have very few reasons to post anything lol.
I know you don't like it when people disagree with you, but that's how it is. Is this the first forum you've ever posted on?
I like disagreements, if they are logical. You learn by conflict, or disagreement. I own my company, and am the lead designer/fabricator. However, I have someone on staff who's title is lead fabricator /design, basically the foreman for lack of better words. Why would I do this if I am that person . It's because two heads are better than one, i do not know it all, we argue all the time. Just the other day we got into a 30 minute argument that I told him "fine! Do it then! Your ass if it fails" well it worked great, and that is why I enjoy him as a employee. He has great ideas and will fight for what he knows will work, or back down if proven incorrect, I follow the same principles.
However, here for example I have offered many times "I have extra carbon heat shielding, I will perform tests specified by people here in real time. Including using the plasma cutter to represent plasma heat, or gas cutter ect ect" yet the nay sayers go la la la la. Then continue arguing that heat shielding works using the same made up evidence, yet ignoring the offer empirical evidence. That is what pisses me off, optional ignorance then acting like you know it all. This place is full of that. And this is just one of 1000s of examples here.
And yes this is the first forum I have spent any time at. Yes it is new to me the type of mentality .
The 1950s were great for white middle class people, but pretty terrible for blacks and Native Americans. You realize that a big part of the success in the 50s was due to government spending? Interstate highways, schools, veteran's benefits (like the G.I. bill). There was a housing boom, and migration to the suburbs. People thought there would be nothing but peace and prosperity after WWII. But this notion that they were more moral than we are today is silly. This was the era of McCarthyism, and lynching, and finally the civil rights movement. There were good things and there were terrible things, just like any other era.
I never said this time period was perfect. In a general sense morality was more followed, there is exceptions to everything. I thought to mention about the treatments of minorities, I had figured that was a given of something I didn't agree with. I am 75 percent Cherokee, the rest French. Believe me I know the treatment of natives. I still have 350 acres in Oklahoma tied up in probate from land rights ect. Of course I agree with equal civil rights ect.
Yes there was government spending, but it was spending that was for equal advancement. Not for a small narcissistic group. Yes the middle class thrived (lower,middle,upper), and that is what is suppose to happen in a successful nation. The middle class pays majority of taxes, performs the majority of the labor ect ect ect. A strong middle class will lead a nation, a dying middle class destroys a nation 1950 >2016 proof is in the pudding.
Government spending is just fine if done for advancement of the people and country, or infrastructure ect. That is called an investment not a loss.
Also...look at the nation's who followed our old country model.. they are thriving just like we did. Making education affordable, focusing on making their people more intellgent, wiser, being competitive in the global marketplace, being producers not just consumers.
If you have a country of all 10 dollar an hour employees selling other countries products..how long will the consumer nation be sustainable?? Not super long..which is why we are almost 20 trillion in debt. We are trying to keep up a standard of living we do not deserve. Look at countries that are not consumer nations...their debt per capita is nothing, and it certainly isnt mandatory to survive most just investments. Even Japan whom is more in debt than we are, 90+ percent of their bonds is internal. You really don't want to know how many of America's bonds are external.
Well, I agree there are parts of our culture that are annoying. Post modernism has morphed into batshit insane identity politics.
Guess I have to agree to this. These things are usually the light and magic show while some performs a slight of hand
When you grow up with fuck yeah America propaganda your whole life, it can be jarring to find out people in other countries don't worship us 
Yes but I was hit with this at 12, and fully aware after 2001. I openly admit how horrible we have been over the last couple decades. How deplorable the majority of Americans are. So I don't see where you get the blind patriotism you accuse me of?
Plus false prophet gets a kick out of America's down turn and possible one day demise. I want no countries to fall no matter what horrible things they have done or how shitty the majority of their people are. I always have hope they can change for the better and would rather that than their demise.