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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #60 on: May 14, 2007, 02:52:54 PM »
Quote from: Roundy the Globularist on May 08, 2007, 06:41:37 PM
And here's an experiment you can try yourself to confirm the flatness of the earth.  Go outside to a wide open space.  Look down at the ground.  Tell me if you see that you are standing on the top of a giant sphere, or if you are standing on flat ground. ::)

This is a childish comment, have you ever taken into account how huge the earth is? Just under 25,000 miles (assuming that you believe in a round earth). But consider this, why is it that when observing a ship through a telescope, travelling away from/towards you, the mast is the last thing to disapear (if the ship is departing) and the first thing to appear (if travelling towards you)? At this point i feel i may be told to read the FAQ and may find something about there being a slight curvature to "the flat earth" so i will put this to you, how is it possible for the sea to follow a curvature?

Another issue that i have not seen whilst briefly scanning these forums, is the Aurora Borealis/Australis. How could these two acts of scientific phenomena occur on a flat earth? I have seen maps of "the flat earth" and a magnetic field would simply not arrange itself in a pattern that is congruent to that of the north and south poles on the "flat earth".
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #61 on: May 14, 2007, 02:54:49 PM »
First of all read the FAQ and second do a search for magnetic fields or something similar because I think I remember it being discussed before and you might find an answer there.
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #62 on: May 14, 2007, 02:57:53 PM »
Quote from: ezsteve on May 14, 2007, 02:52:54 PM
I have seen maps of "the flat earth" and a magnetic field would simply not arrange itself in a pattern that is congruent to that of the north and south poles on the "flat earth".
Please explain.
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #63 on: May 14, 2007, 03:08:41 PM »
North in the middle, south all the way around the outside, surely this is not possible?! I'm no expert at magnetic fields, so i shall certainatly research this, but it doesnt sound right to me.
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« Reply #64 on: May 14, 2007, 03:15:06 PM »
It is possible.  The magnetic south pole is near the geographic north pole, and the magnetic north is directly under it.
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« Reply #65 on: May 14, 2007, 03:16:52 PM »
That's what I was thinking of. You drew that confusing picture. I'll see if I can find it for this person...
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« Reply #66 on: May 14, 2007, 03:24:57 PM »
I have heard of strange magnetic field activity, including multiple, random poles in various locations when hearing about the round earths magnetic pole flip, so i can see how this could be plausible, but not how it could be sustained for any large periods of time. Also, in this argument you are considering there is no round earth, rendering this evidence invalid.

Anyway, im off now, apoligies if i dont get back to any replies until tomorrow.
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #67 on: May 14, 2007, 03:29:47 PM »


This is it right Engy Baby?
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« Reply #68 on: May 15, 2007, 01:19:19 AM »
That's one of them.
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #69 on: May 15, 2007, 04:44:03 AM »
Well goody goody gum drops, search does help
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #70 on: May 15, 2007, 07:51:59 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on May 14, 2007, 03:15:06 PM
The magnetic south pole is near the geographic north pole, and the magnetic north is directly under it.

Please give more detail...
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« Reply #71 on: May 15, 2007, 08:06:15 AM »
There's a picture up there *points*

I think basically it would work the same...
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #72 on: May 15, 2007, 08:13:57 AM »
Explain the picture please.
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« Reply #73 on: May 15, 2007, 08:15:37 AM »
Erm I'll try but I didn't really understand it too well myself...

The brown bit is the Earth, the lines show high energy and low energy particles(?) and..actually i give up, I really don't know how to explain it, best wait for Engy Baby.

Sorry.
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #74 on: May 15, 2007, 10:05:50 AM »
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #75 on: May 15, 2007, 10:16:18 AM »
That still doesnt explain the aurora australis...
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« Reply #76 on: May 15, 2007, 10:27:23 AM »
The pic that Gayer posted does.

What you are looking at is the right half of the earth and only the top half of the magnetic field.  Only particles of high energy make it deep enough into the field to be swept into the atmosphere near the ice wall, thus creating the 'Southern Lights.'
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #77 on: May 15, 2007, 12:48:30 PM »
You need to draw better pictures
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #78 on: May 15, 2007, 01:08:06 PM »
It sounds very skeptical to me, how exactly are these particles "swept" into the atmosphere near the ice wall, and wouldnt this create a rather different visual effect on to the aurora borealis, where in reality we know they are very much identical.

Does the round earth theory not make much more sense in the explanation of these phenomina, it is so much more simple, and more likely.
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #79 on: May 15, 2007, 01:11:21 PM »
Quote from: ezsteve on May 15, 2007, 01:08:06 PM
It sounds very skeptical to me, how exactly are these particles "swept" into the atmosphere
Well, that's how it works on the RE, also.
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #80 on: May 15, 2007, 01:12:18 PM »
I think I need to start learning science again...
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #81 on: May 15, 2007, 01:17:28 PM »
Sorry, I meant how are they swept into the atmosphere around the ice wall.
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« Reply #82 on: May 15, 2007, 01:24:22 PM »
Because the magnetic field enters the atmosphere around there.
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #83 on: May 15, 2007, 01:28:41 PM »
Theres something not quite right about this, can you explain in full?
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #84 on: May 15, 2007, 01:39:43 PM »
I don't know what else you want.  I think the two pictures and my previous post explain fairly well.  If you can be more specific...
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #85 on: May 15, 2007, 01:42:36 PM »
Yeah that makes sense, think I got it
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #86 on: May 15, 2007, 01:54:35 PM »
I think the main question is how can the flat earth sun, which is a "spotlight" emit the high energy electrons required to create the auroras, especially if it is a spotlight. Also, i have read in a few other threads that the south pole on flat earth is on its underside, so surely this would annihilate the chances of seeing any light shows at the ice wall.
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #87 on: May 15, 2007, 02:50:25 PM »
Look at the picture.
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #88 on: May 15, 2007, 02:52:21 PM »
Engy Baby when am I gonna get my pictures? I haven't got long left
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Re: Sorry to disappoint the believers...
« Reply #89 on: May 15, 2007, 03:05:17 PM »
This is the sort of picture I would like to see with a flat earth, one that clearly shows the magnetic fields and how the solar winds function about the poles (see original page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(astronomy) under "The solar wind and magnetosphere".

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