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My Computer Has A Soul
« on: August 30, 2007, 01:39:20 PM »
This thread is to demonstrate that anything can be debated endlessly, regardless of how absurd what your debating may be.

The example I am choosing to use is my computer.

The challenge is to you!  Any of you who wish to actually debate.

The claim: 

My computer has a soul, and can think for itself.



I welcome all half witted challengers, as well as the truly scientific minded to convince me, that my computer is nothing more then a pile of electronics and plastic.
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2007, 01:41:39 PM »
The 'ghost in the machine' Idea has always interested me. I think i'll back that claim up, computers are always bitches to me
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2007, 01:42:02 PM »
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 01:39:20 PM
This thread is to demonstrate that anything can be debated endlessly, regardless of how absurd what your debating may be.

The example I am choosing to use is my computer.

The challenge is to you!  Any of you who wish to actually debate.

The claim: 

My computer has a soul, and can think for itself.



I welcome all half witted challengers, as well as the truly scientific minded to convince me, that my computer is nothing more then a pile of electronics and plastic.


Virus programming. /thread
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My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2007, 01:44:22 PM »
Quote from: Midnight on August 30, 2007, 01:42:02 PM
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 01:39:20 PM
This thread is to demonstrate that anything can be debated endlessly, regardless of how absurd what your debating may be.

The example I am choosing to use is my computer.

The challenge is to you!  Any of you who wish to actually debate.

The claim: 

My computer has a soul, and can think for itself.



I welcome all half witted challengers, as well as the truly scientific minded to convince me, that my computer is nothing more then a pile of electronics and plastic.


Virus programming. /thread

so your fragmented sentence is your debate?  Try not to over analyze the subject would ya?
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2007, 01:52:47 PM »
Ok, your computer has a soul. What's your point?
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2007, 01:54:00 PM »
Quote from: divito on August 30, 2007, 01:52:47 PM
Ok, your computer has a soul. What's your point?

My point is I'm always right....Thanks for confirming my theory!  ;)
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2007, 01:56:16 PM »
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I welcome all half witted challengers, as well as the truly scientific minded to convince me, that my computer is nothing more then a pile of electronics and plastic.

The human mind is nothing but flesh and electronics
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SkyDiver

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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2007, 01:57:35 PM »
Quote from: Khrissetti on August 30, 2007, 01:56:16 PM

The human mind is nothing but flesh and electronics

Does this mean you are agree'ing that my computer does in fact have a soul?
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2007, 02:02:32 PM »
It does indeed.
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SkyDiver

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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2007, 02:07:23 PM »

Ok...  well seeing as this isn't quite working out as I had planned, I'm going to switch my stance and debate that a computer does not have a soul.

A computer cannot have a soul because it is not ALIVE.  It is merely trace elements combined together through man-made processes.

A computer can only do what a person has programmed it to do!  Debate That!  :D
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2007, 02:10:23 PM »
A human mind can only operate as it is 'programmed' to do through it's genetic code. If computers cannot have souls, then neither can we.

Who is to say that souls are exclusive to living things?
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2007, 02:15:32 PM »
Your worthless thread fails.
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2007, 02:17:31 PM »
A human is just an organic computer.
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2007, 02:18:12 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Ireland on August 30, 2007, 02:15:32 PM
Your worthless thread fails.

aw, leave him be, it's a pretty interesting topic
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2007, 02:30:16 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Ireland on August 30, 2007, 02:15:32 PM
Your worthless thread fails.

To a simpleton, I suppose it did, I apologize for not using crayons instead of typed text.


Quote from: divito on August 30, 2007, 02:17:31 PM
A human is just an organic computer.

Humans are much more then just organic, we have the divine spirit within us.  It wasn't always this way ya know.

Monkeys do not have souls, neither do dogs, cats, or any other animals.  Humans are the only beings with a soul.

Our souls are made of light energy that never dies, are organic form is just a vessel for a short time here and now.
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2007, 02:33:59 PM »
Quote from: Khrissetti on August 30, 2007, 02:10:23 PM
A human mind can only operate as it is 'programmed' to do through it's genetic code. If computers cannot have souls, then neither can we.

Not True....  Our genetic code may control how tall we grow, or what color our eyes are.  But environment and the act of learning is seperate then genetics.

Quote from: Khrissetti on August 30, 2007, 02:10:23 PM
Who is to say that souls are exclusive to living things?

I say...  prove me wrong.
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2007, 02:38:47 PM »
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 02:30:16 PM
Humans are much more then just organic, we have the divine spirit within us.  It wasn't always this way ya know.

Monkeys do not have souls, neither do dogs, cats, or any other animals.  Humans are the only beings with a soul.

Our souls are made of light energy that never dies, are organic form is just a vessel for a short time here and now.

Our sapience makes us think this.

Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 02:33:59 PM
Not True....  Our genetic code may control how tall we grow, or what color our eyes are.  But environment and the act of learning is seperate then genetics.

No, our genetic code also tells us what to do with the information. For instance, look at savants, or autistic savants, etc...
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2007, 02:50:19 PM »
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 02:30:16 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ireland on August 30, 2007, 02:15:32 PM
Your worthless thread fails.

To a simpleton, I suppose it did, I apologize for not using crayons instead of typed text.


Quote from: divito on August 30, 2007, 02:17:31 PM
A human is just an organic computer.

Humans are much more then just organic, we have the divine spirit within us.  It wasn't always this way ya know.

Monkeys do not have souls, neither do dogs, cats, or any other animals.  Humans are the only beings with a soul.

Our souls are made of light energy that never dies, are organic form is just a vessel for a short time here and now.

Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim?
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Raist

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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2007, 03:01:30 PM »
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 01:39:20 PM
This thread is to demonstrate that anything can be debated endlessly, regardless of how absurd what your debating may be.

The example I am choosing to use is my computer.

The challenge is to you!  Any of you who wish to actually debate.

The claim: 

My computer has a soul, and can think for itself.



I welcome all half witted challengers, as well as the truly scientific minded to convince me, that my computer is nothing more then a pile of electronics and plastic.


I already bought it's soul from it. Your computer is now souless.
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2007, 03:03:04 PM »
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 02:30:16 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ireland on August 30, 2007, 02:15:32 PM
Your worthless thread fails.

To a simpleton, I suppose it did, I apologize for not using crayons instead of typed text.


Quote from: divito on August 30, 2007, 02:17:31 PM
A human is just an organic computer.

Humans are much more then just organic, we have the divine spirit within us.  It wasn't always this way ya know.

Monkeys do not have souls, neither do dogs, cats, or any other animals.  Humans are the only beings with a soul.

Our souls are made of light energy that never dies, are organic form is just a vessel for a short time here and now.

Your mom doesn't have a soul after what we did last night. ;)
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2007, 03:08:24 PM »
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 02:33:59 PM
Not True....  Our genetic code may control how tall we grow, or what color our eyes are.  But environment and the act of learning is seperate then genetics.
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No, our genetic code also tells us what to do with the information. For instance, look at savants, or autistic savants, etc...

savants and autistic....have mutations in their genes, they do not realize what they are calculating, there is a big difference between knowing what your doing, and doing something without thinking.  If you cannot control your calculations then they are un usable, making them irrelevant and pointless.


Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 02:30:16 PM

Humans are much more then just organic, we have the divine spirit within us.  It wasn't always this way ya know.

Monkeys do not have souls, neither do dogs, cats, or any other animals.  Humans are the only beings with a soul.

Our souls are made of light energy that never dies, are organic form is just a vessel for a short time here and now.
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Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim?

I will now refer you to the oldest and most widely read book on the planet.  The Holy Bible.
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2007, 03:08:48 PM »
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 01:44:22 PM
Quote from: Midnight on August 30, 2007, 01:42:02 PM
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 01:39:20 PM
This thread is to demonstrate that anything can be debated endlessly, regardless of how absurd what your debating may be.

The example I am choosing to use is my computer.

The challenge is to you!  Any of you who wish to actually debate.

The claim: 

My computer has a soul, and can think for itself.



I welcome all half witted challengers, as well as the truly scientific minded to convince me, that my computer is nothing more then a pile of electronics and plastic.


Virus programming. /thread

so your fragmented sentence is your debate?  Try not to over analyze the subject would ya?

A - Define a soul.

B - A machine overrun with strong code can act on its own volition.

C - There is nothing to debate.
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2007, 03:10:41 PM »
Quote from: Raist on August 30, 2007, 03:03:04 PM
Your mom doesn't have a soul after what we did last night. ;)

Yo momma jokes....aye?  wah wah....you hurted my feelwings. 

And at the same time you demonstrated to everyone you lack of intelligence.  try again. 
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2007, 03:14:36 PM »
Quote from: Midnight on August 30, 2007, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 01:44:22 PM
Quote from: Midnight on August 30, 2007, 01:42:02 PM
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 01:39:20 PM
This thread is to demonstrate that anything can be debated endlessly, regardless of how absurd what your debating may be.

The example I am choosing to use is my computer.

The challenge is to you!  Any of you who wish to actually debate.

The claim: 

My computer has a soul, and can think for itself.



I welcome all half witted challengers, as well as the truly scientific minded to convince me, that my computer is nothing more then a pile of electronics and plastic.


Virus programming. /thread

so your fragmented sentence is your debate?  Try not to over analyze the subject would ya?

A - Define a soul.

B - A machine overrun with strong code can act on its own volition.

C - There is nothing to debate.

A:  since you are too handicapped to look it up in webster:

Main Entry: 1soul
Pronunciation: 'sOl
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English soule, from Old English sAwol; akin to Old High German sEula soul
1 : the immaterial essence, animating principle, or actuating cause of an individual life
2 a : the spiritual principle embodied in human beings, all rational and spiritual beings, or the universe b capitalized, Christian Science : GOD 1b
3 : a person's total self
4 a : an active or essential part b : a moving spirit : LEADER
5 a : the moral and emotional nature of human beings b : the quality that arouses emotion and sentiment c : spiritual or moral force : FERVOR
6 : PERSON <not a soul in sight>
7 : PERSONIFICATION <she is the soul of integrity>

B.  A computer overun with strong code...???  That code came from where?  Thin Air?  I think not.  A HUMAN wrote the code.

C.  That's what I think about your Flat Earth Theory!   
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2007, 03:15:46 PM »
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 03:10:41 PM
Quote from: Raist on August 30, 2007, 03:03:04 PM
Your mom doesn't have a soul after what we did last night. ;)

Yo momma jokes....aye?  wah wah....you hurted my feelwings. 

And at the same time you demonstrated to everyone you lack of intelligence.  try again. 
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2007, 03:16:14 PM »
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 03:10:41 PM
Quote from: Raist on August 30, 2007, 03:03:04 PM
Your mom doesn't have a soul after what we did last night. ;)

Yo momma jokes....aye?  wah wah....you hurted my feelwings. 

And at the same time you demonstrated to everyone you lack of intelligence.  try again. 

Well i allowed you to demonstrate your own lack of intelligence.

a) the setup of the brain if not the actual programming (learning) is decided by genetics.

b) You said if you didn't know about the calculations you were doing then they wouldn't count, I would say a computer has no idea what calculations it is doing, why else would they willingly erase their own minds, or damage their own hardware?

When you actually have facts or at least a decent theory to keep me entertained i will provide more than momma jokes. Mids and I had a long debate a few days ago because he actually can bring up points that don't make me think he's another tool repeating what he learned in sunday school / middle school.
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2007, 03:17:54 PM »
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 03:08:24 PM
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 02:33:59 PM
Not True....  Our genetic code may control how tall we grow, or what color our eyes are.  But environment and the act of learning is seperate then genetics.
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No, our genetic code also tells us what to do with the information. For instance, look at savants, or autistic savants, etc...

savants and autistic....have mutations in their genes, they do not realize what they are calculating, there is a big difference between knowing what your doing, and doing something without thinking.  If you cannot control your calculations then they are un usable, making them irrelevant and pointless.


Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 02:30:16 PM

Humans are much more then just organic, we have the divine spirit within us.  It wasn't always this way ya know.

Monkeys do not have souls, neither do dogs, cats, or any other animals.  Humans are the only beings with a soul.

Our souls are made of light energy that never dies, are organic form is just a vessel for a short time here and now.
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Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim?

I will now refer you to the oldest and most widely read book on the planet.  The Holy Bible.

The Bible is not evidence.

Yes the programing defines what it does but what is the energy which defines and drives a program?
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2007, 03:19:30 PM »
Quote from: Raist on August 30, 2007, 03:16:14 PM

When you actually have facts or at least a decent theory to keep me entertained i will provide more than momma jokes. Mids and I had a long debate a few days ago because he actually can bring up points that don't make me think he's another tool repeating what he learned in sunday school / middle school.

And this is why you hang on my every word....right!

I would like any of you....just once to present me, with some FACTS about this Flat Earth Theory....

You should really practice what you preach..... tsk tsk
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2007, 03:22:57 PM »
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 03:19:30 PM
Quote from: Raist on August 30, 2007, 03:16:14 PM

When you actually have facts or at least a decent theory to keep me entertained i will provide more than momma jokes. Mids and I had a long debate a few days ago because he actually can bring up points that don't make me think he's another tool repeating what he learned in sunday school / middle school.

And this is why you hang on my every word....right!

I would like any of you....just once to present me, with some FACTS about this Flat Earth Theory....

You should really practice what you preach..... tsk tsk

I hang on your every word for the same reason SETI scans the skies, the search for intelligent life.
One day i hope to see a glimmer of it shine through your posts but until then i'll be there to laugh at your failures.
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Re: My Computer Has A Soul
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2007, 03:23:43 PM »
Quote from: Raist on August 30, 2007, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: SkyDiver on August 30, 2007, 03:19:30 PM
Quote from: Raist on August 30, 2007, 03:16:14 PM

When you actually have facts or at least a decent theory to keep me entertained i will provide more than momma jokes. Mids and I had a long debate a few days ago because he actually can bring up points that don't make me think he's another tool repeating what he learned in sunday school / middle school.

And this is why you hang on my every word....right!

I would like any of you....just once to present me, with some FACTS about this Flat Earth Theory....

You should really practice what you preach..... tsk tsk

I hang on your every word for the same reason SETI scans the skies, the search for intelligent life.
One day i hope to see a glimmer of it shine through your posts but until then i'll be there to laugh at your failures.

Now that's flattering....are you gay?
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