Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?

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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2025, 06:22:55 AM »
Shows the same pictures over and

From the person that has to derail thread after thread with lies.

One of the subjects of the video is the pressure gradient of the atmosphere.

Why bother with taking a box at a vacuum to 10,000 feet while ignoring FE doesn’t answer why the greater pressure and density at sea level isn’t equalizing with the less pressure and density at 10,000 feet in the first place.

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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2025, 07:09:18 AM »
Shows the same pictures o

Where your photo is dishonest.  Hides half the horizon in the photo.

It still shows curvature.



Look at the most right. The horizon is curving downward to the right.  The sea is more blue than the sky and is curving down to the right.




Where you still ignore dip of the horizon.






And you ignore how a tall tower can be used to gauge the dip of the horizon.


 Only there is no such curvature drop.


Then why is the bottom of this towe increasingly physically blocked from view with distance by the curvature of the earth where zooming doesn’t unblocked the blocked portion back into view. 

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Bulma.  Notice zooming in didn’t reveal more of the tower physically blocked from view.  The zoom made the image bigger.   By the shape of the structure, zooming in didn’t reveal more of the structure physically blocked by earh’s curvature.


Where Bulma.  FE doesn’t even have a working explanation for phases of the moon and why lunar eclipses interrupt the cycle.  Where it’s just demonstrable proof of the heliocentric model.


 

Hey.  Bulma.  Jackass.  Got looking at your picture.  Not only is half the horizon of the photo blocked from view by the wing.  There is a thick layer of clouds.  And there still is detectable curvature on the right side.  Jokes on you.

Now Bulma.  How about posting a picture that shows the actual horizon.  Not a horizon obscured by clouds.  Jackass.



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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2025, 02:46:47 PM »
At any distance, you can look outward to the horizon
Yes, and see a horizon, which so simply and trivially demonstrates beyond any sane doubt that Earth is round.

do simple linear measurements to determine that the Earth is locally flat at any distance.
i.e. be a lying, subhuman POS, appealing to tiny measurements where your uncertainty makes you incapable of distinguishing between flat and round, so you can then proceed to lie to everyone by falsely claiming it proves Earth is flat.
And what makes that even more pathetic, you also need to ignore that you need to artificially flatten the ground to get that.


Shows the same pictures over and over, then asks "Bulma, I bet you haven't disproved this!" Sure have. About eight or ten pages ago.
No, you haven't refuted it.
You have yet again wilfully rejected reality solely on the basis that it doesn't match your delusional fantasy.

1. Fake horizon created by camera perspective trick (horizon is always at eye level, so this level is tweaked by setting the camera low)
This CANNOT be used as an argument.
This is because this is literally what is being discussed.
You baselessly it must be wrong because it doesn't match your delusional fantasy doesn't make it wrong.

In reality, the horizon is NOT at eye level.
And no amount of absolutely pathetic assertions by you will change that.

Again, just step back and look at how absolutely pathetic your argument is.
It can basically be summed up as:
"This shows I am wrong so it is fake".
That is truly what your argument is.
Do you have anything to show it is fake? No. You can just appeal to the fact it shows you are wrong.
Do you have any evidence to counter it? No. You can just appeal to the fact it shows you are wrong.
Can you easily get images like this yourself, i.e. taking them yourself, to confirm if it was shows is true? Yes. But you refuse to, because you know it will show you are wrong an you will lose the excuse of it being fake.

3. Literally explaining how to create a trick curved sky, using high contrast and vertical stretching
You mean lying to everyone by pretending vertical stretching will magically make a curve.
It wont.
Vertical stretching, as long as it is done uniformly throughout the image (as it is in this case) will make straight lines remain straight.
All it does is make an already existing curve easier to see.

4. Idiot making a video doesn't make it true
Again, just pathetic dismissal with no justification at all.
Yet you happily go and get a video by your cult leader and act like that must be true, while ignoring the refutation of it.

Again, if you want to claim your magic FE produces the results expected for a RE by having the horizon be a magical set distance away for the observer in all directions, rather than the expected edge of Earth for a flat Earth; then that means the horizon is a circle.
The sole distinction between a FE and a RE (in terms of how it appears) is the distance below you.
For an observer height of 2 m, the horizon for your fantasy earth will be a 5 km circle centred on a point 2 m below you; while for the round earth it will be a 5 km circle centred on a point roughly 4 m below you.
Either way, it is a circle that is below you.

So any argument about not being able to see the curve will apply to both.

5. Your derpy leveling device. Which is distorted to such an extent that the object cannot be recognized, and just looks like a monstrous hanging windchime.
Only complete imbeciles can't recognise it.
But no, that isn't a levelling device, that is a straight edge, which has been distorted with linear transformations, which simple stretch or compress and DO NOT ADD CURVES, to show the curve that is already there but hard to see.
You could do this yourself to show there is no trickery, but you refuse, because you know it will show you are a lying POS.

6. A pricture from a magazine of a plane superimposed in "space."
Again, just pathetic dismissal.

That is all you have, just pathetic dismissal and lies.

Or maybe you take a shot out of the side of a plane, no filters no editing
And just what is this supposed to show?
That we still have a horizon showing Earth is round?

That the sun is shining from either very close to horizontal or actually slightly upwards?
Showing the Sun in your FE fantasy must be around the altitude of the plane or below it, yet again refuting your fantasy and showing Earth is round?


Again, simple tests you can do yourself which show Earth is round.
Simple facts and logical arguments which show the arguments FEers dishonestly use against the RE work against the FE as well.
And what do you have in response?
Pathetic dismissal and lies.

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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2025, 03:12:35 PM »
So yeah, looking at the sky you assume you know alot of stuff. Yet you haven't figured out that you're standing on a table.
Do you think that the sky should look the same for someone living on a table as it would for someone living on a globe?  Ask ChatGPT what it thinks.
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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2025, 04:44:46 PM »


1. Fake horizon


This?

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https://mctoon.net/photos-of-the-curve/





No.  Horizons are very much seen from airplanes.  So, a horizon is a very real thing seen from airplanes. 

But why is there a horizon.  Why not  the earth and everything on the earth rising up to eye level?

Bulma, where you ignore the very real dip of the horizon.




So.  The horizon in the photos are very real.  Sorry.


created by camera perspective

When I look to the horizon, well I can see the horizon.  No camera needed.



trick (horizon is always at eye level, so this level is tweaked by setting the camera low)

Evidently the dip of the horizon is real, or this tower bottom wouldn’t get increasingly physically blocked from view with distance. 

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Bulma.  Notice zooming in didn’t reveal more of the tower physically blocked from view.  The zoom made the image bigger.   By the shape of the structure, zooming in didn’t reveal more of the structure physically blocked by earh’s curvature.


Before radar, it was shown you can gauge a good approximation of how far away a ship at sea is by how much of the ship is blocked by the earth’s curvature. Where there is also radar horizon because of the spherical earth.



Darn, RE being useful and usable again.  In a measurable way

Back to this.

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https://mctoon.net/photos-of-the-curve/




(Oh look.  Dip of the horizon compared to the artificial horizon.  Damn.  )

Bulma Do you understand how a fisheye lens works?

It’s been explained to you before.

From this video..







For the “horizon to be distorted” by a fisheye lens, the most bottom of the aircraft instrument panel would also be distorted and curved up.  No evidence of any “faking”. 


Bulma.  We covered Radar horizon. Dip of the horizon, and how useful it is for estimating distance to ships at sea.  We covered the earth’s curvature physically blocks objects with enough distance bottom up where zooming doesn’t bring what is physically blocked from view back into view.  And the curvature of the earth can be photographed and is confirmed by dip of the horizon.


Where Bulma, all you can do is slander and make false accusations where you provide no proof of “fake”. Ignoring all the ways RE is useable, or must be taken into account.  Like radar horizon. 



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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2025, 05:07:11 AM »


1. Fake horizon


This?

Wow, you can't even  bother to honestly keep track of your own pictures?



This.  They are actually really taking a picture down the hill from this, zooming in, and cropping the shot. Since the shot is always at eye level, this produces a shot that appears to be vertically higher than it is. But horizon doesn't lie about this.

You couldn't even give the right picture. The picture you gave was number #2.
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2. Doctored image mostly using layers to mock up the inside of a plane (and horizon trick above)

Followed by the the winner where you make this curve by adding contrast and vertically stretching it.


Then you proceed to hide behind your pictures once again.

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Where Bulma, all you can do is slander and make false accusations where you provide no proof of “fake”. Ignoring all the ways RE is useable, or must be taken into account.  Like radar horizon.



Yes, I imagine it's usable for lining your pockets.

Must be taken into account? "Must"? Did you just give me an imperative? I don't have to take anything into account.
 I'm even talking to you as a favor. You're on ignore.

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You are ignoring this user.

I decide to talk to you. Any other person would not put up with your domineering attitude ("must") nor your picture spam of already addressed points, nor your completely antisocial attitude of thinking you can manipulate people. I'm actually here to talk to people since the offline world is lonely and I might actually have to speak up when painfully shy, and the internet is filled with people like you, who I've decided, "well, you'll do" as someone to talk to. But alot of days, I'm like "why did I do that to myself?"

Now as for your last point, is a person standing on a particular point  on Earth assumed to be on the top of the world (that is at the center of the sphere)? Or like this picture behind the sphere?

What's actually happening is the radar is pitched upward. Because its primary objective was always to catch planes. And submarines. Not rowboats. This means the signal is spread outward and the signal ahead is rather thin, like a guy looking left and right not noticing someone straight ahead at a distance.

But sure, attribute curvature to that, then talk about how pitching projectiles upward causes  them to hit straight.

https://greatmountainpublishing.com/2021/07/01/long-distance-radio-transmissions-prove-that-the-earth-is-flat/



I imagine if you sent a radio signal out on radio channel 1740 kHz, the guy in the rowboat would get it. But isn't it strange how your radio signal is received yet your radar signal cannot see him...

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It seems that all supposed satellite signals are actually signals from land-based towers. For example, this author’s wife has a “satellite” radio in her car. We have noticed that when traveling over a mountain road that rises in elevation approximately 2,000 feet above the foot of the mountain, we always lose the “satellite” reception on the radio as we reach the top of the mountain. It seems odd to lose reception from an alleged “satellite” that is supposed to be overhead as one rises in elevation. The radio receiver should be closer to the supposed “satellite” and thus receive a stronger signal the higher we rise in elevation. We have noticed that at the same moment that we lose satellite reception, we also lose cell phone tower reception. I infer, therefore, from the simultaneous loss of cellular phone reception and “satellite” radio reception that the “satellite” radio transmissions are not actually broadcast from satellites at all, but are broadcast via cellular towers.

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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2025, 06:48:09 AM »

Wow, you can't even  bother to honestly keep track of your own pictures?



No.  You just a pathological liar.

You can explain actual and measurable dip of the horizon. Where there is radar horizon.  Backed by radio horizon as evident that listening to a radio station on a specific FM frequency you lose signal with distance because of curvature of the earth.  Where you have to ignore how things are physical blocked from view bottom up with distance because of earth’s curvature. 

Your photo again..

Where your photo is dishonest.  Hides half the horizon in the photo.

It still shows curvature.



Look at the most right. The horizon is curving downward to the right.  The sea is more blue than the sky and is curving down to the right.



Hey.  Bulma.  Jackass.  Got looking at your picture.  Not only is half the horizon of the photo blocked from view by the wing.  There is a thick layer of clouds.  And there still is detectable curvature on the right side.  Jokes on you.

Now Bulma.  How about posting a picture that shows the actual horizon.  Not a horizon obscured by clouds.  Jackass.

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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2025, 06:55:26 AM »

https://greatmountainpublishing.com/2021/07/01/long-distance-radio-transmissions-prove-that-the-earth-is-flat/




Like usual Bulma, either you lie.  Or just don’t understand..

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Ironically, detractors of the project were correct when they declared that radio waves would not follow the curvature of the earth, as Marconi believed. In fact, Marconi’s transatlantic radio signal had been headed into space when it was reflected off the ionosphere and bounced back down toward Canada. Much remained to be learned about the laws of the radio wave and the role of the atmosphere in radio transmissions, and Marconi would continue to play a leading role in radio discoveries and innovations during the next three decades.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/december-12/marconi-sends-first-atlantic-wireless-transmission

Where only specific frequencies can be bounced off the ionosphere at certain times.

Again..

Backed by radio horizon as evident that listening to a radio station on a specific FM frequency you lose signal with distance because of curvature of the earth.
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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2025, 06:58:58 AM »

Wow,

That you are just detaining another thread.

One of the subjects of the video is the pressure gradient of the atmosphere.

Why bother with taking a box at a vacuum to 10,000 feet while ignoring FE doesn’t answer why the greater pressure and density at sea level isn’t equalizing with the less pressure and density at 10,000 feet in the first place.

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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2025, 07:04:28 AM »

What's actually happening is the radar is pitched upward.

Very real radar horizon is because somebody pitched up every installed radar system for all ships?



https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/radar-ship.html?sortBy=relevant


https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/12161739-radar-spinning-ship


Bulma, which radar array is “pitched upward”.

You’re an idiot Bulma.

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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2025, 02:13:40 PM »
This.  They are actually really taking a picture down the hill from this, zooming in, and cropping the shot.
And what do you have to base this on?
Your pathetic delusional fantasy being wrong.

Seriously, do you have any basis at all to say it is fake other than it showing you are wrong?
Do you have any logical argument? Anything from the picture itself that shows it? Or more importantly the video that it is from?
Do you have any evidence to counter it?
NO!

All you have is the simple fact that it shows everyone you are a lying POS and it so clearly shows your delusional fantasy is wrong.
Because you can't handle your fantasy being wrong, and have no morals which would indicate things like "lying is wrong", you are happy to blatantly lie to everyone repeatedly and just dismiss everything that shows you are wrong.
It shows just how truly pathetic and dishonest you are.

But horizon doesn't lie about this.
No, YOU lie about this.
The horizon is NOT always at eye level, as shown by countless pictures.

Followed by the the winner where you make this curve by adding contrast and vertically stretching it.
Again, none of that can magically add a curve.
The best you can get from that is making an already existing curve more apparent.

your picture spam of already addressed points
Pathetically dismissing things that show you are wrong like a pathetic child sticking their fingers in their ears is not addressing anything.
It just shows everyone how pathetic and dishonest you are.

I'm actually here to talk to people
And notice the phrasing, just talk to. Not talk with, nor even listen.
You just want to say crap and not care about what people say.

Now as for your last point, is a person standing on a particular point  on Earth assumed to be on the top of the world
No. Because there is no top. That is just your pathetic strawman.
If you get a picture like that, and want to have the person on top, just rotate the picture.
Or are you too much of an imbecile to understand that?

What's actually happening is the radar is pitched upward.
Wrong again.
It can be pitched in any direction.
For boats at sea, they also want to see other boats.

This means the signal is spread outward and the signal ahead is rather thin
Which in no way explains why they can see things which are higher from further distance than things which are lower.
Do you know what does?
The curvature of Earth.

[LORAN]
You have already had that pathetic BS refuted so many times it isn't funny.
The pathetic diagrams you have drawn do not represent what is happening.
Again, it is reflecting off the ionosphere.

If your delusional FE fantasy was true, that would happen with all frequencies, and we would be able to see the sun from anywhere on Earth, and be able to trivially send signals across the pacific ocean at basically any frequency.

But back in reality, only certain ranges of frequencies work, those which reflect off the ionosphere.

It seems that all supposed satellite signals are actually signals from land-based towers.
No, it's not.
That is just yet another complete from pathetic lying scum like you.

For example, this author’s wife has a “satellite” radio in her car.
And is that just marketing crap where a company is lying to because there is no regulation to stop it?
Even ignoring that, is there any evidence to support any of this?
Even a simple video showing it?
Of course not. All they have is a pathetic, worthless claim from a conspiracy nut desperate to reject reality.
That is entirely worthless.

Here you are dismissing pictures as fake, with no evidence to counter it; yet happily appealing to pathetic stories with no evidence at all supporting them.

Meanwhile, GPS works based upon satellites, you can't fake that.
Satellite TV works with geostationary satellites, where you can measure the angle to the satellites from various locations and see how it matches up to a satellite some 35 000 km above the surface of Earth over the equator.
You can see how you can easily get GPS signals in locations where you don't get cell phone coverage, such as the middle of the ocean.

All that evidence showing satellites are real, which you just ignore; compared to an entirely worthless claim that a "satellite" radio losing signal with no evidence at all.
i.e. you happily reject evidence based upon it not matching your delusional fantasy; while at the same time you accept entirely baseless claims from your cult leaders with no thinking and no evidence.
This really shows just how dishonest you are, and how much of a good, brainwashed, moronic cultist you are.

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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2025, 03:41:12 PM »

 “satellite”

Funny.  You abandoned this thread…

Please debunk the existence and transmissions of a specific sat, EchoStar 16
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=91397.msg2392651#msg2392651

Bulma.  Your last stupid past in the listed thread.


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Please debunk the existence and transmissions of a specific satellite, EchoStar 16.

EchoStar 16 was launched into space Nov 20, 2012, from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan.

I would say the quickest way of doing so is to point out that Kazakhstan is a largely Islamic country, and that Islam is even more committed to flat Earth than I am. Moreover, unlike me, Islam actually tends to oppose science (I support real science). Kazakhstan as a Russian satellite state did not build such a thing.

So?  Why abandon a thread where the topic is specifically satellites. 


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A 5° × 6° view of a part of the geostationary belt, showing several geostationary satellites. Those with inclination 0° form a diagonal belt across the image; a few objects with small inclinations to the Equator are visible above this line. The satellites are pinpoint, while stars have created star trails due to Earth's rotation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EchoStar_XVI


But now Bulma, you want to derail this thread with satellites. 
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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2025, 05:42:34 AM »
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Hey.  Bulma.  Jackass.  Got looking at your picture.  Not only is half the horizon of the photo blocked from view by the wing.  There is a thick layer of clouds.  And there still is detectable curvature on the right side.  Jokes on you.

And how did we find that curvature?

By increasing contrast and stretching the vertical.  :D



Curvature on the right side? No there isn't! I used the first tool I could find, a handy makeup mirror. It was completely level. Or are you assuming those shorter and longer lines on a ruler mean something?

One again, you just say stuff and try to manipulate or gaslight people into believing stuff.

And they probably see what you see because they've been hypnotized.



This is literally the level of delusion our society is at.



Not pitched upward. Fair point.

There's something you need to know about me. I don't double down, I don't try to lie. If I'm wrong, I look at the cause as a puzzle. Now, why would a marine radar miss that rowboat?

Well first of all, it turns out that's probably a lie.
https://www.boattrader.com/research/radar-vs-sonar-on-boats-a-navigational-and-safety-comparison/

It is not a foregone conclusion that it won't spot the boat and unlike vision the horizon doesn't have much to do with it.

First, I mentioned earlier that radar detects stuff below. I'm probably thinking sonar here.

Radar works kinda like this:


Basically like screaming outward in all directions.
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When these radio waves hit an object, they reflect back to the radar antenna. The time it takes for the echoes to return helps calculate the distance to the object, while the direction from which the echoes return indicates the object’s location.

I then asked Internet about small boats.
https://www.boatingworld.com/question-answer/does-radar-detect-small-boats/

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First, the power of your radar plays a significant role in determining whether you can detect small boats. Most recreational boats use marine radars with a power output of 2-4 KW. These radars are typically effective at detecting larger vessels, but may not be very effective at detecting small boats. To detect small boats, you may want to consider using a radar with a higher power output, such as a 6-12 KW radar. However, higher power radars tend to be more expensive and require more energy to operate.

Second, the size and construction of the target vessel also affect radar detection. Small boats with a low profile, such as kayaks, canoes, and rowboats, are less visible on radar than larger boats with higher profiles, such as sailboats and powerboats. Additionally, boats made from non-metallic materials, such as wood or fiberglass, may not reflect radar signals as effectively as boats made from metallic materials, such as aluminum or steel.

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Finally, environmental conditions such as fog or heavy rain can significantly impact radar detection. In these conditions, the radar signals may scatter and bounce off nearby objects, making it difficult to distinguish between small boats and other objects in the water.

At no point did they mention the curvature.

Again, like all signals, it spreads out and becomes less effective over distance. This is not due to curvature but because intensity of waves decreases.

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Electromagnetic radiation intensity decreases with distance according to the inverse-square law, meaning that as you move away from the source, the intensity diminishes proportionally to the square of the distance.



Radar waves? They become fainter over long distances and less able to do their job. Light from the sun likewise cannot be billions of miles away.

Even a faint signal can detect a freaking mountain though.

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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2025, 07:04:51 AM »

By increasing contrast and stretching the vertical.  :D


Which would be a lie.

Saved your crapy photo where half of the horizon in the picture is covered by a wing.  And the actual horizon is obscured by clouds





Just added a ruler.


Where your photo is dishonest.  Hides half the horizon in the photo.

It still shows curvature.



Then just cropped zoomed on the right side.




I did nothing that you accused me oh.  So, again Bulma.  Making false accusations with zero proof.

I can screenshot a video of the process if you like. 

Where there is still real measurable dip of the horizon.


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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2025, 07:14:24 AM »

Well first of all,

Which doesn’t address what was posted.

Backed by radio horizon as evident that listening to a radio station on a specific FM frequency you lose signal with distance because of curvature of the earth. 


Backed by radar horizon.

Backed by the horizon and the dip of the horizon physically blocking things bottom up with distance.

Evidently the dip of the horizon is real, or this tower bottom wouldn’t get increasingly physically blocked from view with distance. 

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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2025, 02:11:42 PM »
And how did we find that curvature?
By increasing contrast and stretching the vertical.
And notice the key part there?
FOUND!
It doesn't magically create it from nothing.

This is literally the level of delusion our society is at.
And you are a great example of that delusion.
Believing complete and utter BS even though there is so much evidence showing what you believe is complete and utter BS.

There's something you need to know about me. I don't double down, I don't try to lie.
Except as shown from plenty of previous examples of your behaviour, that is a blatant lie.
When you are wrong, you double down and appeal to more pathetic lies, continually going down that path until you decide you can't make any more excuses and you deflect with some other pathetic BS.

Look at the other thread, where you still can't admit you are wrong and have been lying to everyone.
Instead you just keep repeating the same pathetic lies again and again, doubling down with your lies.

Do you really think that lying to everyone here by falsely claiming you don't double down and don't try to lie will change that (or are you saying you are just accidentally lying)?

If I'm wrong, I look at the cause as a puzzle.
i.e. instead of accepting you are wrong, you treat it as a puzzle to find a pathetic excuse to pretend your delusional BS is true.

It is not a foregone conclusion that it won't spot the boat and unlike vision the horizon doesn't have much to do with it.
Except all the evidence showing otherwise you just ignore.

At no point did they mention the curvature.
i.e. you found a single source, talking about one articular thing, and now you want to pretend that this means curvature isn't real.
Even though there are other sources clearly talking about the curvature.

e.g. https://www.furuno.com/en/technology/radar/basic/

Again, like all signals, it spreads out and becomes less effective over distance.
And as explained, this does not negate the effect of curvature.
Stop acting like either curvature must be the only thing effecting it or can't effect it at all.

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Re: Can you convince ChatGPT that the earth is flat?
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2025, 04:53:03 PM »
Just as an FYI, here is part 3 of Dave vs ChatGPT:
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.