Pics of Another Sunrise Impossible on Flat Earth

either they have to be cut into the Earth to make them level
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or they have to conform to a sphere, which puts it into fairly consistent areas of tension.

No, it doesn't.

Again, you just continually spout crap with no justification at all.

The roads can be laid on the surface of Earth, including laying them level (which does not mean flat), with the primary tension in them being from the road cooling which would happen regardless of the shape of Earth.

Stop just asserting complete and utter crap.

Again, do you think they fabricate roads off site, making sure they are perfectly straight and then bring them in and beat them into shape?

If so, you are insane and it is clear you have never seen people work on roads.

Or, the far more likely option - you are yet again lying to everyone to pretend reality is wrong to pretend your delusional fantasy is true; repeating the same pathetic, already refuted lies; all to deflect from your inability to explain things like why the sun sets and why objects disappear from the bottom up while remaining resolvable as they go over the horizon.

Which would be fine if we were seeing this road crack apart in perfect straight line.  Only as we can clearly see, it is not a straight line.

Again, more complete and utter BS.
Why should it crack in a perfectly straight line?


Try pulling a piece of paper apart, or a piece of tape, or that flat rope/ribbon, or so many other things.
So they break in a straight line? NO!
Do you know the only thing that does? A single crystal, which cleaves along a crystal facet.
If you want it to break in a straight line, you need to carefully cut it or to score it to introduce a weak point along the line to cause it to break along that line and even then it doesn't always work.

Why do you just keep on asserting such obvious crap?
Are you truly that pathetic and desperate that you need your delusional fantasy to be true? That you can go on living if reality is true?
Because if that is true, you belong in an institution.


Now stop with all the crap and explain to us:
Why objects disappear from the bottom up, appearing to sink into Earth, as if they are going around a curve?
Why does the sun set? Especially when it is meant to be so far above us, and it clearly isn't shrinking to a point like you would expect for an object just moving away.
Why, during the southern summer, do you get more daylight hours the further south you go, importantly addressing how places further from the sun can see the south while places closer to it can't? (Importantly, this shows it has nothing to do with distance. Another thing which shows it is not to do with distance is how we can see the light in the sky (twilight) after the sun has set, whereas if it was just about distance, the light in the sky and on the ground would disappear long before we lose sight of the sun.)

And if you want to invoke your BS parabola which has been refuted so many times it isn't funny then clearly explain:
How does the magic parabola work to magically change the path of light to reach your eyes?
With your magic parabola just having a distance of roughly 3 archaic units, how do we end up seeing the sun for hours, rather than the few minutes and only if you are in a small band near the path of the sub-solar point? Or if the sun is large enough to cover such a larger area, why doesn't it take up the entire sky?

Try pulling a piece of paper apart, or a piece of tape, or that flat rope/ribbon, or so many other things.
So they break in a straight line? NO!

Not as good an example as you might think.  Paper, tape and many other such materials often have a grain structure.  Tearing with the grain usually produces much cleaner separation than tearing against the grain.

Basically, the thinking is that if roads have to adhere to the surface of the Earth, then either they have to be cut into the Earth to make them level

Definition of level surface..

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 30, 2025, 06:19:52 AM

what I should expect to happen is some sort of tension while trying to wrap a level road to this "clearly visible" drop.

The definition of level surface…

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Level Surface : A Curved surface that at every point is perpendicular to the local plumb line. The plumb linemeans the direction in which the gravity acts. Level Surfaces are approximately spheroidal in the shape. The common example of a level surface is a body of the still water.


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(which would result in a massive disconnect between hills and valleys, and roads, which is not seen here)

Road conform to slopes and grades much more extreme than the curve of the earth.  Roads don’t have to be level.

Materials and roads follow “curvature” more extreme than the gentle curvature of the earth.  With little or no problem. 

Bulma.  Are you this big of a troll to keep lying when you are proven to be caught in a lie.  Or you just this stupid and brainwashed Bulma.  You’r f’n ignorant.

How with any sense at all Bulma can you ignore roads are built on hills, bridges are built with inclines and to move with load and wind.  But you have the stupidity to claim roads can’t be built on a curved earth.  When roads on hills and mountains are literally roads on “curved” earth.

 

In fact Bulma.  The ideal road isn’t even “level”.

Camber in Road: Types and Advantages




https://civilguidelines.com/articles/camber-in-road.html

When it comes to road construction and design, various factors are considered to ensure safety and functionality. One important aspect is road camber, which refers to the slope or curvature of the road surface. Camber plays a crucial role in providing adequate drainage, enhancing vehicle stability, and improving overall road performance.

Bulma.  What’s this obsession with “level” roads?

Where one, you ignore the definition of level surface.

And two, roads usually follow the lay of the land.


 And three, roads are built with a crown or hump to sheet water off the road. 

Basically,

Bulma posted stupid BS to try to derail the thread from documented evidence the earth is spherical.

Like normal Bulma.  Trying to spam the thread with useless arguments that are lies based on false authority.

Back to the subject at hand.

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Bulma.  Notice zooming in didn’t reveal more of the tower physically blocked from view.  The zoom made the image bigger.   By the shape of the structure, zooming in didn’t reveal more of the structure physically blocked by earh’s curvature.


Where Bulma.  FE doesn’t even have a working explanation for phases of the moon and why lunar eclipses interrupt the cycle.  Where it’s just demonstrable proof of the heliocentric model. 

Quote from: JackBlack on June 19, 2025, 02:39:36 PM

Try pulling a piece of paper apart, or a piece of tape, or that flat rope/ribbon, or so many other things.
So they break in a straight line? NO!

Not as good an example as you might think.  Paper, tape and many other such materials often have a grain structure.  Tearing with the grain usually produces much cleaner separation than tearing against the grain.

Just to clarify, I'm not meaning tearing it, I mean pull it so it is under tension until it snaps.
But I am aware of grain structure and how it effects it, but even then the closest I can get to perfectly straight for paper is by folding it first. And even then the edge is rough.
Tape instead normally stretches and then snaps.

Excuses and missing the point.

Which of these is straight up tension and which of these is an artificial tear?



Stop being dishonest and look again at that roadside picture!



While the near side of the road is generally a line, when viewed a little at a time, there are clearly cracks extending out in all directions. That's not even a jagged tear (markjo is correct here, you  can make a very clean tear), that's something more akin to when glass cracks from inside out. Two things do this on glass:
1. Massive impact (such as from a rock, hail, some other object slams against the glass)
2. When ice penetrates the glass, thaws, freezes again, forming widening cracks.

Now, again look on the other side of the street. Both the tension that should supposedly exist her and maybe an earthquake should provide a jagged straight line or even a jagged crooked line. But these "lines" have no point of connection to the other side. Both sides are actually series of potholes, with the nearest side to perspective appearing as a line because the potholes connect. Now, why do they connect? It is because the cracks form a seam where more water penetrates.

Excuses and missing the point.

That certainly sums up your pathetic BS.

Once more, the point is that you CANNOT explain simple everyday observations that show Earth isn't flat.
Then because of how pathetic you are, rather than admit that or just doing everyone a favour and remaining silent, you instead decide to attack with complete and utter BS.
BS which is so trivial to refute in multiple different ways, that you then double down with more pathetic BS.
And when that gets refuted, you now need to flee entirely and ignore what you said.

Which of these is straight up tension and which of these is an artificial tear?

Which of them has a crack produced as a perfectly straight line? NEITHER!
So what point are you trying to make?
That you can't easily tell if it is cracked do to tension pulling it apart of something else? Effectively just further shooting yourself in the foot.

As a reminder, the only one delusional or insane enough to claim the roads due to the tension due to the curvature is YOU!
Something you have repeatedly refused to back up and instead just repeatedly asserted with no justification at all.

But in response to that repeated pathetic BS it was pointed out that roads have cracks all the time.
So yet again it is an example of claiming complete and utter BS and not even having the sense to realise reality shows that BS argument wont help you.


Once more:
There is no reason for the curvature of Earth to make the roads crack.
Even if there was, roads are cracked, so we have the results expected from your BS claims anyway.
Either way, your pathetic BS fails.

Stop being dishonest

The dishoneset scum here is you.
Repeatedly lying to everyone, and then repeatedly fleeing from your refuted BS, only to repeat the same refuted BS later.

How about you follow your own advice and try being honest for once in your life.
Are you even capable of that?
I don't think so.


Now stop with all the crap and explain to us:
Why objects disappear from the bottom up, appearing to sink into Earth, as if they are going around a curve?
Why does the sun set? Especially when it is meant to be so far above us, and it clearly isn't shrinking to a point like you would expect for an object just moving away.
Why, during the southern summer, do you get more daylight hours the further south you go, importantly addressing how places further from the sun can see the south while places closer to it can't? (Importantly, this shows it has nothing to do with distance. Another thing which shows it is not to do with distance is how we can see the light in the sky (twilight) after the sun has set, whereas if it was just about distance, the light in the sky and on the ground would disappear long before we lose sight of the sun.)

And if you want to invoke your BS parabola which has been refuted so many times it isn't funny then clearly explain:
How does the magic parabola work to magically change the path of light to reach your eyes?
With your magic parabola just having a distance of roughly 3 archaic units, how do we end up seeing the sun for hours, rather than the few minutes and only if you are in a small band near the path of the sub-solar point? Or if the sun is large enough to cover such a larger area, why doesn't it take up the entire sky?

Stop being dishonest and look again at that roadside picture!

You can’t even be honest about the definition of level surface.

Basically, the thinking is that if roads have to adhere to the surface of the Earth, then either they have to be cut into the Earth to make them level

Definition of level surface..

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on May 30, 2025, 06:19:52 AM

what I should expect to happen is some sort of tension while trying to wrap a level road to this "clearly visible" drop.

The definition of level surface…

Quote

Level Surface : A Curved surface that at every point is perpendicular to the local plumb line. The plumb linemeans the direction in which the gravity acts. Level Surfaces are approximately spheroidal in the shape. The common example of a level surface is a body of the still water.


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(which would result in a massive disconnect between hills and valleys, and roads, which is not seen here)

Road conform to slopes and grades much more extreme than the curve of the earth.  Roads don’t have to be level.

Materials and roads follow “curvature” more extreme than the gentle curvature of the earth.  With little or no problem. 

In fact Bulma.  The ideal road isn’t even “level”.

Camber in Road: Types and Advantages




https://civilguidelines.com/articles/camber-in-road.html

When it comes to road construction and design, various factors are considered to ensure safety and functionality. One important aspect is road camber, which refers to the slope or curvature of the road surface. Camber plays a crucial role in providing adequate drainage, enhancing vehicle stability, and improving overall road performance.

Bulma.  What’s this obsession with “level” roads?

Where one, you ignore the definition of level surface.

And two, roads usually follow the lay of the land.


 And three, roads are built with a crown or hump to sheet water off the road. 

Bulma.  No matter what you believe.  Many roads follow the lay of the land that have a slope or grade more extreme than what the curvature of the earth presents.  Your argument is idiotic. 
 

Stop being dishonest and look again at that roadside picture!

Are you so desperate to post completely idiotic BS to try to derail from the below.  Your pitiful Bulma, and a majority of the people see your pathological lies.

Bulma posted stupid BS to try to derail the thread from documented evidence the earth is spherical.

Like normal Bulma.  Trying to spam the thread with useless arguments that are lies based on false authority.

Back to the subject at hand.

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Bulma.  Notice zooming in didn’t reveal more of the tower physically blocked from view.  The zoom made the image bigger.   By the shape of the structure, zooming in didn’t reveal more of the structure physically blocked by earh’s curvature.


Where Bulma.  FE doesn’t even have a working explanation for phases of the moon and why lunar eclipses interrupt the cycle.  Where it’s just demonstrable proof of the heliocentric model. 

 

Basically, the thinking is that if roads have to adhere to the surface of the Earth, then either they have to be cut into the Earth to make them level (which would result in a massive disconnect between hills and valleys, and roads, which is not seen here)

Actually, road are usually “cut into the earth” anyway because they usually consist of several layers which could be 2-3 feet or more total thickness, depending on the particular type of road.  These layers will likely have different coefficients of thermal expansion which can lead to eventual cracking. Sometimes they even apply a layer of flexible asphalt on top of existing rigid concrete roads.  When they do, you will eventually get straight cracks in the asphalt that are right on top of the expansion joints in the concrete layer.


It seems that I was right when I said that you don’t know anything about anything. 

You are not grasping something even still (or being deliberately obtuse).

Cutting a few ft into the surface?

Get yourself two

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One in blue, one in green. Now using paint, you will fill in land and water until it resembles a globe. This is challenge #1. Challenge #2:
1. With ball #1, get cement to simulate layer of road. Just for fun , we'll add dirt as the sub-base, cement as the base, and rock and tar as the surface. So that you can see what I already know to be true, make a continuous road, such as from France to China.
2. Now with ball #2, use an Sharpie to draw a line to that road, and since it will naturally curve on that ball, cut inwards drawing line up toward where you would have to cut in to get a flat road. It's just a little bit more than a few ft, isn't it?

Cutting a few ft into the surface?

Holly cow Bulma

Most roads are not even made to be flat where you lie and butcher “level surface”.

Bulma, your level and tension argument is right out idiocy.

Most roads just simple follow the lay of the land.

Materials and roads follow “curvature” more extreme than the gentle curvature of the earth.  With little or no problem. 

You are not grasping something even still (or being deliberately obtuse).

Cutting a few ft into the surface?

Get yourself two

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For the life of me, I cannot grasp why you think that an exercise ball is a reasonable analog for the earth.

You are not grasping something even still (or being deliberately obtuse).

And of course, like usual, you just ignore all the refutation of your BS, and instead deflect with more pathetic BS.

Yes, I get it, you want to pretend that roads should be laid perfectly straight, or otherwise they will fall apart.
But you have literally NOTHING to justify that delusional pile of garbage of yours.

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And once more you dishonestly appeal to your tiny balls.
You sure do love bring up your tiny balls and suggesting people should play with them.

But again, this is in no way an honest representation.
You appeal to a tiny, soft flexible ball.

You make no attempt to understand scale.
Lets say your ball has a radius of 6.371 m.
That would already be a very large ball. And this has to correspond to the radius of Earth, 6371 km.
That means it is a factor of 1 m smaller.
That means if your layer is even 1 mm thick, that would correspond to a road that is 1 km thick.
So a far more honest comparison would be to paint on a road. That would still likely be far too thick, but it would be a far more honest comparison.

The other issue for your tiny balls is the rigidity.
I can't go sit on Earth and have it massively compress like I can for a yoga ball.
You are intentionally appealing to a flexible ball.
This means whatever you put on top, if it isn't able to bend, must be able to support itself.
Unlike a road laid on Earth, which is supported by Earth.

But even then, you again make no attempt to do it yourself or look for it yourself.
You are happy, being the lying POS you are, to make up an idea for an experiment and make up the results and act like that must be the only possible result.
Meanwhile, if you were honest, you might try looking for it, to see if someone has done it already. Like this:

What's that, a concrete ball, laid over the top of a yoga ball?
I guess that must be impossible and must be CGI right?

But even more absolutely pathetic and dishonest of you, all it takes to refute your pathetic BS is to look at a road going over a hill.
If your BS was true, such a feat would be impossible.

Now again, stop with pathetic, dishonest BS.
Stop repeatedly lying to everyone.

Explain the simple issues you keep fleeing from you lying POS:

Why objects disappear from the bottom up, appearing to sink into Earth, as if they are going around a curve?
Why does the sun set? Especially when it is meant to be so far above us, and it clearly isn't shrinking to a point like you would expect for an object just moving away.
Why, during the southern summer, do you get more daylight hours the further south you go, importantly addressing how places further from the sun can see the south while places closer to it can't? (Importantly, this shows it has nothing to do with distance. Another thing which shows it is not to do with distance is how we can see the light in the sky (twilight) after the sun has set, whereas if it was just about distance, the light in the sky and on the ground would disappear long before we lose sight of the sun.)

And if you want to invoke your BS parabola which has been refuted so many times it isn't funny then clearly explain:
How does the magic parabola work to magically change the path of light to reach your eyes?
With your magic parabola just having a distance of roughly 3 archaic units, how do we end up seeing the sun for hours, rather than the few minutes and only if you are in a small band near the path of the sub-solar point? Or if the sun is large enough to cover such a larger area, why doesn't it take up the entire sky?

You are not grasping something even still (or being deliberately obtuse).

What keeps the dust and rocks of the moon from falling away from the bottom of the moon? 

either they have to be cut into the Earth to make them level
...
or they have to conform to a sphere, which puts it into fairly consistent areas of tension.

Just lying is the best FE can do?

Yes.  Roads are smoothed and graded off for comfort and to make it so cars even with the lowest ground clearance can travel.  I’ve seen a few bumpy rail road crossing not very sports car friendly in my life. I’ll try to get a photo of a crossing cars bottom out on.

Anyway.  But roads and highways around here are anything but level and flat.  And designed to sheet water off them with crowns and grades.















Example after example of roads laid to follow the lay of the land.  Banked turns, over hills and down hills, roads laying over localized terrain with more extreme “curvature” than what the radius of the earth provides.  Nothing flat nor level about them.  No need to cut down through hills.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on June 20, 2025, 06:49:30 AM

Cutting a few ft into the surface?

Holly cow Bulma

Most roads are not even made to be flat where you lie and butcher “level surface”.

Bulma, your level and tension argument is right out idiocy.

Most roads just simple follow the lay of the land.

If you weren't an idiot, this would be a huge hint to you.

The lay of the land is something that you she be able to look at and say... "Hey this land doesn't continue to curve around in a single direction! It has hills and valleys!"



More importantly, taking roads up and down these hills and mountains is fairly easy and painless. No major cutting into the Earth. As the Earth is mostly level, this is variation along an average that is actually below sea level.  As a sharp contrast, the Round Earth needs to be cut this hard in order to be level.



You'd basically have to dig as deep as you possibly could to have a road that wouldn't force itself apart.  Then you'd have to dig clear across the surface of this round Earth. Otherwise? Forget little hills in Ohio,

again, according to the figures of the curvature model, by 200 miles,

the level of curvature drop is equal to Everest. Let's compare hills, okay?



The entire curve is one massive hill that is literally miles high.  Do I need to spell this out for you?!?  You cannot build a road capable of holding up under these conditions.  Hell, there isn't road up Everest. It's too high, too unsteady, and too snowy.

Everest is only 21,260 ft. After 3959 miles, the amount of curvature being 90° is 3959 miles, or 20,903,520 ft. Then the drop heads the opposite way. So yeah, 1000x Everest. Tell me again how your Podunk, Ohio roads are such an engineering marvel.

More importantly, taking roads up and down these hills and mountains is fairly easy and painless. No major cutting into the Earth.

That looks like a pretty significant cut into the earth to me.

If you weren't an idiot,

I’m not the one posting complete idiocy.

but it's too rigid. What have we learned kids? Bending a long section of straight mass (such as the single-bound One Piece) snaps it apart.

If bridges were really made to be dynamic,

Bulma.  Are you really this ignorant and stupid.

You never seen a thermal expansion joint for a bridge and / or overpass?  Never wondered what a joint like what is pictured below was for?

Calculating Thermal Expansion

Yes.  Bridges are made to be dynamic.


Bulma, your original post that is complete stupidity!

what I should expect to happen is some sort of tension while trying to wrap a level road to this "clearly visible" drop.

In the context of that post.  Where you think all roads have to be flat and level?  I provided examples if we follow your stupid logic that should be under greater tension due to following curvatures more extreme than the radius of the earth.

Anyway.  But roads and highways around here are anything but level and flat.  And designed to sheet water off them with crowns and grades.















Example after example of roads laid to follow the lay of the land.  Banked turns, over hills and down hills, roads laying over localized terrain with more extreme “curvature” than what the radius of the earth provides.  Nothing flat nor level about them.  No need to cut down through hills.

Where we know roads do crack and need repair from “tension”.










Where Bulma, you don’t even get you can role up sod.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on June 17, 2025, 06:24:49 PM

Really? Fake rolls of grass? Yeah, I know that's a thing, but real grass is seeded.

Is your soil truly that shitty?

As pointed out already.  Sod is real grass, and there are farms dedicated to growing sod.  And they often sale it in roles. 

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So Bulma.  Just like FE.  All you can do is make false assurances, lie, and make stupid false accusations that titer on slander.

Bulma are you this stupid or just a pathological liar.

If you weren't an idiot, this would be a huge hint to you.

A hint that you are a lying POS?
Yes. We have already worked it out.
A hint that your inability to see the curve because you are wilfully ignorance? Yes, already worked that out as well.

More importantly, taking roads up and down these hills and mountains is fairly easy and painless. No major cutting into the Earth.

No major cutting into the Earth, because roads don't need to be flat.

the Round Earth needs to be cut this hard in order to be level.

No you lying POS, that would be FLAT not level, they are not the same.
This has been explained to you repeatedly.
And all you can do in response is just repat the same pathetic refuted BS which amounts to nothing more than just asserting there is a magical universal down.

You'd basically have to dig as deep as you possibly could to have a road that wouldn't force itself apart.

Until you can explain what magic is magically forcing these roads magically apart, NO WE DON'T!

Again, if your delusional BS was true a road over a hill would be an impossibility.

the level of curvature drop

Who gives a shit?
A drop does not equal a force.

Do I need to spell this out for you

Yes you lying POS. You do.
You need to clearly spell out what magical force is magically forcing the roads magically apart when it goes level around the surface of a round Earth.

You cannot build a road capable of holding up under these conditions.

Why not?
Again, what magic is trying to destroy it?

It's too high, too unsteady, and too snowy.

And more pathetic BS.
Why is it too high when it is going level over Earth?
What magic makes it unsteady?
And it certainly isn't too snowy.


So yes, spell it you pathetic, lying, subhuman waste of oxygen.
Tell us what magic is trying to rip these roads apart.
Stop just asserting your pathetic BS.


Or, try to stop being so pathetic and address the issues which clearly shows your model is complete and utter crap.

Why objects disappear from the bottom up, appearing to sink into Earth, as if they are going around a curve?
Why does the sun set? Especially when it is meant to be so far above us, and it clearly isn't shrinking to a point like you would expect for an object just moving away.
Why, during the southern summer, do you get more daylight hours the further south you go, importantly addressing how places further from the sun can see the south while places closer to it can't? (Importantly, this shows it has nothing to do with distance. Another thing which shows it is not to do with distance is how we can see the light in the sky (twilight) after the sun has set, whereas if it was just about distance, the light in the sky and on the ground would disappear long before we lose sight of the sun.)

And if you want to invoke your BS parabola which has been refuted so many times it isn't funny then clearly explain:
How does the magic parabola work to magically change the path of light to reach your eyes?
With your magic parabola just having a distance of roughly 3 archaic units, how do we end up seeing the sun for hours, rather than the few minutes and only if you are in a small band near the path of the sub-solar point? Or if the sun is large enough to cover such a larger area, why doesn't it take up the entire sky?

As a comparison, we have clear arguments against your delusional crap which you cannot refute, so you repeatedly flee from them. Conversely, you have pathetic lies where you claim things should just magically fall apart for no reason at all.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on June 20, 2025, 08:55:22 PM

More importantly, taking roads up and down these hills and mountains is fairly easy and painless. No major cutting into the Earth.

That looks like a pretty significant cut into the earth to me.

You need to work on reading comprehension.

"More importantly, taking roads up and down these hills and mountains is fairly easy and painless. No major cutting into the Earth."

You go up and down the mountain cutting only enough to make it level, such as Pikes Peak Highway. Versus cutting straight through said mountain.


But yeah, what you described above is the level of cutting you would need to do to make RE roads not subject to potholes.
 Thank you for showing that image. I couldn't have done it without you.

You go up and down the mountain cutting only enough to make it level,

That road is changing in hight above sea level.  That road isn’t “level”. It has a visible slope.  And definitely not flat.  The road base was graded (smoothed out) so cars can drive on it and not get stuck in a drop / cut or get high centered on a hump.  Then it was paved over. 

But yeah, what you described above is the level of cutting you would need to do to make RE roads not subject to potholes.

Do you think that level roads aren't subject to pot holes?  If anything, level roads encourage water pooling.  When that water repeatedly freezes and thaws, you get potholes.

You go up and down the mountain cutting only enough to make it level, such as Pikes Peak Highway.

So now you are saying a road going up the slope of a mountain is level?
Is that the level of desperation you have sunk to?

to make RE roads not subject to potholes.

Again, you are yet to provide any reason for what magic should cause that.
Instead, it is just a desperate, pathetic attempt by you to pretend the RE couldn't possibly work, all of because of simple which clearly prove your flat fantasy can't work, which you are entirely incapable of addressing.



Again, you desperate, lying, pathetic POS:
Tell us what magic is trying to rip these roads apart.
Stop just asserting your pathetic BS.


Or, try to stop being so pathetic and address the issues which clearly shows your model is complete and utter crap.

Why objects disappear from the bottom up, appearing to sink into Earth, as if they are going around a curve?
Why does the sun set? Especially when it is meant to be so far above us, and it clearly isn't shrinking to a point like you would expect for an object just moving away.
Why, during the southern summer, do you get more daylight hours the further south you go, importantly addressing how places further from the sun can see the south while places closer to it can't? (Importantly, this shows it has nothing to do with distance. Another thing which shows it is not to do with distance is how we can see the light in the sky (twilight) after the sun has set, whereas if it was just about distance, the light in the sky and on the ground would disappear long before we lose sight of the sun.)

And if you want to invoke your BS parabola which has been refuted so many times it isn't funny then clearly explain:
How does the magic parabola work to magically change the path of light to reach your eyes?
With your magic parabola just having a distance of roughly 3 archaic units, how do we end up seeing the sun for hours, rather than the few minutes and only if you are in a small band near the path of the sub-solar point? Or if the sun is large enough to cover such a larger area, why doesn't it take up the entire sky?

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on June 21, 2025, 03:17:37 PM

But yeah, what you described above is the level of cutting you would need to do to make RE roads not subject to potholes.

Do you think that level roads aren't subject to pot holes?  If anything, level roads encourage water pooling.  When that water repeatedly freezes and thaws, you get potholes.

Good roads are then graded. This means you put an arch in the middle of road so water tends to knock off. But this demands a flat base, just as a house built in the middle of a hill or on an open fault line is unlikely to water tight.

Also, no, level roads don't pool as much as you think. Our driveway only pools in a spot where a square  spot is cut into the driveway. Everywhere else, it either slides to the right or left, or  water gradually slides off after enough collects.

But this demands a flat base

No. It demands a stable base.


Again, you have provided no reason for the curvature to be a problem for roads
Again, that pathetic deflection will not explain how the sun sets or anything like that.

Again, stop with the pathetic BS and explain the problems for your delusional fantasy:

Why objects disappear from the bottom up, appearing to sink into Earth, as if they are going around a curve?
Why does the sun set? Especially when it is meant to be so far above us, and it clearly isn't shrinking to a point like you would expect for an object just moving away.
Why, during the southern summer, do you get more daylight hours the further south you go, importantly addressing how places further from the sun can see the south while places closer to it can't? (Importantly, this shows it has nothing to do with distance. Another thing which shows it is not to do with distance is how we can see the light in the sky (twilight) after the sun has set, whereas if it was just about distance, the light in the sky and on the ground would disappear long before we lose sight of the sun.)

And if you want to invoke your BS parabola which has been refuted so many times it isn't funny then clearly explain:
How does the magic parabola work to magically change the path of light to reach your eyes?
With your magic parabola just having a distance of roughly 3 archaic units, how do we end up seeing the sun for hours, rather than the few minutes and only if you are in a small band near the path of the sub-solar point? Or if the sun is large enough to cover such a larger area, why doesn't it take up the entire sky?

No, it demands a flat base. There is nothing at all stable about your model.

Let's refresh you, since you obviously don't remember

There are wonderful passages from the Bible of the Biblical not-artificial world:

• "He established the earth upon its foundations, so it will never move." Psalm 104:5, Psalm 93:1, 1 Chronicles 16:30
• “You have set the boundaries of the earth; you have made both summer and winter.” – Psalm 74:17
• "In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces." Daniel 2:44-45
• "For God so loved the world, that he sent  his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved." John 3:16-17

Versus your fast-moving Earth:

• Earth rotates on its axis at about 1,037 miles per hour at the equator, but this speed decreases as you move towards the poles. (Btw, over 24 hours, that's 24888 miles of unfelt rotation).
• Earth orbits at 66,600 mph (notice the Number of the Beast here; you obviously have not only read Revelation, but take it seriously... even though it's a forgery written by Cerinthus)
• Earth moves  with the sun, which moves 514,000 miles per hour (while somehow not contradicting the previous speed.
• The stars in turn all have to keep pace with this, or those star trails that you enjoy faking with your moving Polaris get forever left in the dust. Instead, night after night, century after century, the same stars light the night.
• Oh yeah, and the Earth is doomed by climate crisis. And if somehow it survives that, the sun will go nova. And if it somehow survives that, well there will be a heat death of the universe, as entropy winds down everything in existence.

Stop reading Revelation. I'm able to tell.

The Earth is stable in my model. It is one planetary crash or accidental flying into the sun away from total destruction in your model. You like to use fear to whip human beings into a state of senseless animals.

The reason you need your Earth to be fast moving is to justify your frenetic on the move lifestyle. But I think the reason it moves so fast is the high pace disguises that nothing in fact is happening at all.

No, it demands a flat base. There is nothing at all stable about your model.

Let's refresh you, since you obviously don't remember

The earth is curved.

Where you also ignore the dip of the horizon.

https://mctoon.net/photos-of-the-curve/

Flat Earth horizon still wouldn't look flat!

Compressing the photo makes it easier to see.

Cherry picking data would be only accepting stuff you like.

Which has been explained to you.

Photo from 1976 taken by Adrian Meredith

Concorde: A Photographic Tribute: A Photographic...
by Adrian Meredith

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Notice in the picture of the Concorde where the earth is below the jet.  That is significant in terms of a fish eye lens.  The video explains this.

For the Concorde not to be distorted by a fish eye lens, the jet would have to be perfectly in the middle horizontal.  It’s not.  And the horizon under the jet at bottom of the frame would have the horizon distorted up.




Which is why the fisheye lens in you presented videos are BS.



So.  Yes.  There is curvature of the earth.

 Only there is no such curvature drop.

Then why is the bottom of this tower increasingly physically blocked from view with distance by the curvature of the earth where zooming doesn’t unblocked the blocked portion back into view. 

Turning Torso (190m tall) - seen from 25km - 50km
66K views · 9 years ago#TurningTorsoFlatEarth

Bulma.  Notice zooming in didn’t reveal more of the tower physically blocked from view.  The zoom made the image bigger.   By the shape of the structure, zooming in didn’t reveal more of the structure physically blocked by earh’s curvature.


Where Bulma.  FE doesn’t even have a working explanation for phases of the moon and why lunar eclipses interrupt the cycle.  Where it’s just demonstrable proof of the heliocentric model.

No, it demands a flat base.

No, it doesn't.
Why would it?

There is nothing at all stable about your model.

Ignoring earthquakes, Earth is pretty stable.

There are wonderful passages from the Bible

How about we stick to reality, rather than a crappy book full of complete and utter BS. Especially such BS that is refuted by something as simple as an earthquake.

Versus your fast-moving Earth

Again appealing to speeds dishonestly, even after it has been explained why it doesn't help your pathetic BS at all.
Why should fast moving mean non-stable?

And again, notice what your post lacks?
Anything of any real substance.
Still no explanation for why the curvature should magically make roads impossible.
And still no reason for why your delusional pile of garbage should magically make things disappear from the bottom up or why the sun should set.
Just pathetic deflection so you can pretend your delusional BS hasn't been refuted countless times.

Again, stop with the pathetic BS and explain the problems for your delusional fantasy you lying coward:

Why objects disappear from the bottom up, appearing to sink into Earth, as if they are going around a curve?
Why does the sun set? Especially when it is meant to be so far above us, and it clearly isn't shrinking to a point like you would expect for an object just moving away.
Why, during the southern summer, do you get more daylight hours the further south you go, importantly addressing how places further from the sun can see the south while places closer to it can't? (Importantly, this shows it has nothing to do with distance. Another thing which shows it is not to do with distance is how we can see the light in the sky (twilight) after the sun has set, whereas if it was just about distance, the light in the sky and on the ground would disappear long before we lose sight of the sun.)

And if you want to invoke your BS parabola which has been refuted so many times it isn't funny then clearly explain:
How does the magic parabola work to magically change the path of light to reach your eyes?
With your magic parabola just having a distance of roughly 3 archaic units, how do we end up seeing the sun for hours, rather than the few minutes and only if you are in a small band near the path of the sub-solar point? Or if the sun is large enough to cover such a larger area, why doesn't it take up the entire sky?

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No, it demands a flat base.

No, it doesn't.
Why would it?

Put your Lego on a ball. Put the glass dome on top of it. Spin it around. Tell me if anything stays on.
Hint: it won't.
Meanwhile, I can stack stones up like so:

And they will stay put on a flat base. And they will not stay put on a moving ball.

Dry stone, sometimes called drystack or, in Scotland, drystane, is a building method by which structures are constructed from stones without any mortar to bind them together

Nothing holds these together, meaning any major upheaval will knock them loose. How can Earth be a rotating ball in the face of this?

Oh I know. Just make the ball bigger! And make everything farther! And spin everything faster.

That's your answer to everything. Deflect from the actual argument, and then resort to big numbers.