Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.

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Papa Legba

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Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« on: January 27, 2016, 12:18:11 PM »
The purpose of a 'conspiracy theorists' tinfoil hat is allegedly to Reflect Radio Waves.

Tinfoil is made of Aluminium.

Interestingly, the main ingredient of Chemtrails - which only retards & paid shills cannot see - is also Aluminium...

Along with Barium.

Is there any history of Aluminium & Barium being aerosolised in the upper atmosphere to enhance radio wave reflectivity?

Why yes - there are plenty!

'Operation Smoke Puff' is one; & guess what?

It was performed shortly before the first 'transcontinental satellite broadcast'...

LOL!!!

Tinfoil hats on everyone; watch the shills assemble!

theEngineer will help out, I'm sure; he LOVES his space-fraud; he's a real, live rokkit enjynerr you know!

Off you go, disinfo-scum; pick the bones out of that...

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2016, 12:31:03 PM »
Evidence please.
Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by ignorance or stupidity.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2016, 12:57:58 PM »
Please search - UN geo engineering program.

Lots of information on atmospheric manipulation using a high altitude aerosol delivery  systemto combat "climate change" lol ( formally known as "global warming")

You may also research the alternatives to beat "solar radiation" including

Solar panels on every roof (this is actually a good idea but would obviously damage energy companies)
Huge space reflectors  ::)
and plenty of other mad cap ideas.

Tiny high altitude reflective particles where chosen on cost,

added bonuses include-
Signal bounce (see op)
Extreme weather (excuse for higher taxation)
Long term soil contamination (monsanto has the answer)
Long term air  contamination (big pharma has the answer)
atmospheric holograms (I suspect some are not ready to even read these applications)
etc


this is not even a conspiracy theory,
they admit it but no one really pays any attention.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2016, 01:49:16 PM »
Tin foil is made out of tin. Aluminum foil is made out of aluminum. "Tin foil hat" is now made of aluminum. The term is left over from the old days when they still used tin.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2016, 04:45:15 PM »
There is no actual proof that what is seen in the trails, which by the way have been around since aircraft could fly high enough, contains aluminum or barium.

EVERY test has been done on samples collected on the ground which are not only likely to be contaminated by local sources, but the very idea they can prove anything about a trail 30,000+ feet in the air is absurd.

"Chemtrailers" have for years avoided obtaining and testing a sample taken directly from a trail though some have collected money to do so and then never did anything.  This would be the best evidence they could obtain but for some reason they settle for flawed tests that prove nothing.

And talking about or proposing possible remedies to a problem not everyone agrees exists does not mean they are actually doing what is being talked about.


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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2016, 05:00:09 PM »
Off you go, disinfo-scum; pick the bones out of that...

You are scraping the barrel now aren't you?  Misunderstanding Newton was good trolling for you,  but as usual you overplayed your hand.   Your alts aren't doing much better.

So sad.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2016, 06:24:10 PM »
Off you go, disinfo-scum; pick the bones out of that...

You are scraping the barrel now aren't you?  Misunderstanding Newton was good trolling for you,  but as usual you overplayed your hand.   Your alts aren't doing much better.

So sad.
What do you mean? "PL IS the bottom of the barrel",
gee, I must bite my tongue and keep quiet! He and his identical twin sister can't help it.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2016, 10:11:21 PM »


'Operation Smoke Puff'


Just had a look at "Operation Smoke Puff" and thought, this is for you Geoff!
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2016, 12:36:56 AM »
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they admit it but no one really pays any attention.

Just what do they "admit"?  That all these ideas have been suggested?
Pass the "tin foil hats!

Evidence?

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2016, 01:16:50 AM »
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they admit it but no one really pays any attention.

Just what do they "admit"?  That all these ideas have been suggested?
Pass the "tin foil hats!

Evidence?

 
Please search - UN geo engineering program or solar radiation management programs or atmospheric cloud creation etc.

Lots and lots of "evidence",

But unfortunately you now appear scientifically illiterate,
Which is strange because you was an atmospheric expert last week.

search,
Research.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2016, 01:58:24 AM »
I fail to see any real problems,   I've got plenty of gluten free apple cider vinegar in stock, and a few spare spray bottles.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2016, 02:43:50 AM »
I fail to see any real problems,   I've got plenty of gluten free apple cider vinegar in stock, and a few spare spray bottles.


What the hell are you doing in that video?
You are making a fool of yourself!

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rabinoz

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2016, 03:32:46 AM »
Why yes - there are plenty!
'Operation Smoke Puff' is one; & guess what?
It was performed shortly before the first 'transcontinental satellite broadcast'...

I thought 'Operation Smoke Puff' was in Texas and gave a range of "maybe" 700 miles! In the wrong place and way short of the 8,550 miles to get from the UK to Carnarvon!

So, I'm curious!
Just how did your magical tin foil manage a link from the UK to Australia on Friday, November 25th, 1966?
There's no way to cover that distance with your tinpot reflector within the atmosphere!
Still makes good story, you'll be up to Scepti's level soon, keep at it!

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2016, 12:14:02 PM »
Simple proof for what I say; search for 'grid chemtrails' on google images.

The checker-board pattern ones.

Then correlate the locations of the images with known air force bases & weapons testing areas.

Look out for DRONE bases & testing especially...

Bingo!

This is old tech; it's been developed since the 1940s at least.

'Window'; 'Chaff'.

Your 'satellites' are just a load of muck chucked out the back of an aeroplane.

I have more evidence too.

Once you know what you're looking at the pieces fall together easily.

ROTHR radar is lulzy for example, as is HAARP...

Toodle-pip disinfo-scum & fraud-mods!
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2016, 01:09:36 AM »
Today's homework: research Tropospheric Scatter/Troposcatter.

More to come...
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2016, 03:33:26 AM »
Strange isn't it,
The usual suspects demand evidence,
get given evidence by the truck load,
then run away.

"How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It's not easy to become sane."

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2016, 04:14:45 AM »
Still waiting for evidence to be given.  I've seen claims that the checkerboard patterns are supposedly  correlated with with bases and weapons testing but no evidence.  I've seen claims that the trails contain barium and aluminum but no proof.  There is talk about a UN geoengineering program but no proof it has gotten further than talk.  No reason to run when no actual evidence has been presented.  So far this one of the most boring "chemtrails" threads I've ever seen.

Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2016, 05:44:03 AM »
Papa Legba is the most eminent flat earth scientist. He's never even heard of you clowns.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2016, 06:28:53 AM »
Still waiting for evidence to be given.  I've seen claims that the checkerboard patterns are supposedly  correlated with with bases and weapons testing but no evidence.  I've seen claims that the trails contain barium and aluminum but no proof.  There is talk about a UN geoengineering program but no proof it has gotten further than talk.  No reason to run when no actual evidence has been presented.  So far this one of the most boring "chemtrails" threads I've ever seen.

Search,
Research,
Learn.

Here's a nice article from 2010,
 http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/sep/13/geoengineering-coalition-world-climate

" Various schemes have been proposed, with the most promising being adaptation of high-flying aircraft fitted with extra tanks and nozzles to spray the chemicals. A fleet of 747s could do the job. To have the desired effect we would need the equivalent of one Mount Pinatubo eruption every three or four years. "

" Although ideas for climate engineering have been around for at least twenty years, until recently public discussion has been discouraged by the scientific community. Environmentalists and governments have been reluctant to talk about it too. The reason is simple: apart from its unknown side-effects, geoengineering would weaken resolve to reduce carbon emissions."

" Even now, beneath the radar, Russia has already begun testing. Yuri Izrael, a Russian scientist who is both a global-warming sceptic and a senior adviser to Prime Minister Putin, has tested the effects of aerosol spraying from a helicopter on solar radiation reaching the ground. He now plans a full-scale trial."

" Perhaps the wealthy individual he has in mind is Bill Gates
, who has covertly been funding geoengineering research for three years with advice from Keith and Caldeira.  They now oversee Gates' research fund, which has spent some $4.5 million to date, including funding the three private dinners. Keith will not reveal what the money is being spent on, downplaying it as "a little private funding agency". Right—the world's richest man has a little private funding agency devoted to researching ways to manipulate the Earth's climate system. Conspiracy theory anyone?"

" Gates is also an investor in a firm named Intellectual Ventures that is promoting a scheme called "StratoShield
", which would pump sulphur dioxide into the upper atmosphere through a 30-kilometre hose held aloft by V-shaped blimps.   Intellectual Ventures is run by Nathan Myhrvold, former chief technology officer at Microsoft, and includes Lowell Wood among its associates."

Stratoshield ?

" but a more disturbing effect of enhanced dimming would be the permanent whitening of day-time skies. A washed-out sky would become the norm."

Hmmmm

it goes on,

This article from 2010 should get you thinking,
Unless of course you believe all well funded governmental and private organisations have a policy of full disclosure and hold press conferences to inform you, the man in the street of their every move.

This short article is one of thousands of articles,
lots of linked information and jump off points.

You could do some research and come back with findings,
or continue wearing a blind fold.

It's up to you,
Just remember it's your world as much as it is theirs.
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"How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It's not easy to become sane."

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frenat

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2016, 07:00:28 AM »
Still waiting for evidence to be given.  I've seen claims that the checkerboard patterns are supposedly  correlated with with bases and weapons testing but no evidence.  I've seen claims that the trails contain barium and aluminum but no proof.  There is talk about a UN geoengineering program but no proof it has gotten further than talk.  No reason to run when no actual evidence has been presented.  So far this one of the most boring "chemtrails" threads I've ever seen.

Search,
Research,
Learn.


Your burden of proof.  And still no proof anything is being done.  Talking about possibly doing something is not proof it is being done.  Especially when we see these trails from all aircraft that are high enough, including commercial aircraft.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2016, 07:03:31 AM »
Still waiting for evidence to be given.  I've seen claims that the checkerboard patterns are supposedly  correlated with with bases and weapons testing but no evidence.  I've seen claims that the trails contain barium and aluminum but no proof.  There is talk about a UN geoengineering program but no proof it has gotten further than talk.  No reason to run when no actual evidence has been presented.  So far this one of the most boring "chemtrails" threads I've ever seen.

Search,
Research,
Learn.

Here's a nice article from 2010,
 http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/sep/13/geoengineering-coalition-world-climate

" Various schemes have been proposed, with the most promising being adaptation of high-flying aircraft fitted with extra tanks and nozzles to spray the chemicals. A fleet of 747s could do the job. To have the desired effect we would need the equivalent of one Mount Pinatubo eruption every three or four years. "

" Although ideas for climate engineering have been around for at least twenty years, until recently public discussion has been discouraged by the scientific community. Environmentalists and governments have been reluctant to talk about it too. The reason is simple: apart from its unknown side-effects, geoengineering would weaken resolve to reduce carbon emissions."

" Even now, beneath the radar, Russia has already begun testing. Yuri Izrael, a Russian scientist who is both a global-warming sceptic and a senior adviser to Prime Minister Putin, has tested the effects of aerosol spraying from a helicopter on solar radiation reaching the ground. He now plans a full-scale trial."

" Perhaps the wealthy individual he has in mind is Bill Gates
, who has covertly been funding geoengineering research for three years with advice from Keith and Caldeira.  They now oversee Gates' research fund, which has spent some $4.5 million to date, including funding the three private dinners. Keith will not reveal what the money is being spent on, downplaying it as "a little private funding agency". Right—the world's richest man has a little private funding agency devoted to researching ways to manipulate the Earth's climate system. Conspiracy theory anyone?"

" Gates is also an investor in a firm named Intellectual Ventures that is promoting a scheme called "StratoShield
", which would pump sulphur dioxide into the upper atmosphere through a 30-kilometre hose held aloft by V-shaped blimps.   Intellectual Ventures is run by Nathan Myhrvold, former chief technology officer at Microsoft, and includes Lowell Wood among its associates."

Stratoshield ?

" but a more disturbing effect of enhanced dimming would be the permanent whitening of day-time skies. A washed-out sky would become the norm."

Hmmmm

it goes on,

This article from 2010 should get you thinking,
Unless of course you believe all well funded governmental and private organisations have a policy of full disclosure and hold press conferences to inform you, the man in the street of their every move.

This short article is one of thousands of articles,
lots of linked information and jump off points.

You could do some research and come back with findings,
or continue wearing a blind fold.

It's up to you,
Just remember it's your world as much as it is theirs.
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I guess this video is in the neighborhood of what you are talking about.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2016, 11:47:13 AM »
The whole 'climate engineering' thing is logistically-impossible bullshit.

A red-herring fear-porn cover story.

As well as an excuse to tax us for breathing; 'CO2 emissions' - LOL!!!.

The only reason for chemtrails is to enhance communications capabilities.

They are sprayed along very specific & narrow corridors.

Simple observation alone will confirm this fact.

Your 'satellites' are just muck thrown out the back of airplanes.

I am correct in this.

Research, observe, & you will agree.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2016, 01:08:29 PM »
I find the sudden lack of responses from the usual screeching forum squatters quite amusing.

have they really run out of pre prepared debunk cut and paste disinfo ?

Seems that way.
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2016, 04:34:21 PM »
Indeed.

This forum is full of ex-forces comms/radar ops, yet they all have nothing to say on a subject they should be expert in.

Bit of a lol needed there.

Now; if chemtrails are for 'geoengineering' then why would the surveyors on a £450 million construction project need them?

Because that is what I Observed.

At 8am on the day that surveying began there were 3 greasy, low altitude chemtrails sprayed directly above the valley the surveying took place in.

Did the surveyors - who were using GPS equipment - need it to be nice & warm that day?

Or did they need pin-point accuracy from their equipment?

You decide.

Keep Observing...
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2016, 04:41:49 PM »
I find the sudden lack of responses from the usual screeching forum squatters quite amusing.

have they really run out of pre prepared debunk cut and paste disinfo ?

Seems that way.
Still waiting for actual evidence.  Talking about geoengineering is not proof it is being done.  And there is no proof at all that the trails contain aluminum or barium.  "Chemtrailers" have avoided getting samples directly from a trail for years.

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2016, 04:43:20 PM »
Indeed.

This forum is full of ex-forces comms/radar ops, yet they all have nothing to say on a subject they should be expert in.

Bit of a lol needed there.

Now; if chemtrails are for 'geoengineering' then why would the surveyors on a £450 million construction project need them?

Because that is what I Observed.

At 8am on the day that surveying began there were 3 greasy, low altitude chemtrails sprayed directly above the valley the surveying took place in.

Did the surveyors - who were using GPS equipment - need it to be nice & warm that day?

Or did they need pin-point accuracy from their equipment?

You decide.

Keep Observing...
Why are you assuming the trails had anything to do with the surveyors?  How did you determine the altitude?  How did you know they were "greasy"?

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2016, 05:45:38 PM »
LOL!!!

Poor try, frenat-whose-youtube-channel-shows-exactly-what-you-are.

I saw what I saw: thick, low-altitude chemtrails directly above the surveyors for a £450 million construction project.

There were a lot of surveyors too; they were doing the railway, as a new station is part of the project, as are bridges, roads, the lot.

And they were all using GPS surveying equipment.

It is a big project & the date of the surveying is a matter of public record.

But you can believe what you want; perhaps the Red Arrows were doing a display to entertain the surveyors?

Or they had crops that needed dusting?

I can't think of many other reasons for laying smoke-trails over construction projects...

Can you, Mr. ex-military radar expert (lol!)?
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2016, 06:07:27 PM »
LOL!!!

Poor try, frenat

I saw what I saw: thick, low-altitude chemtrails directly above the surveyors for a £450 million construction project.
And again, how did you know what altitude they were at?
There were a lot of surveyors too; they were doing the railway, as a new station is part of the project, as are bridges, roads, the lot.

And they were all using GPS surveying equipment.

It is a big project & the date of the surveying is a matter of public record.
I'm sure it was a big project.  Why would I doubt that?  You have yet to prove the trails thousands of feet above were related in any way though.   ::)

But you can believe what you want; perhaps the Red Arrows were doing a display to entertain the surveyors?

Or they had crops that needed dusting?

I can't think of many other reasons for laying smoke-trails over construction projects...

Can you, Mr. ex-military radar expert (lol!)?
Since you've provided no evidence whatsoever, I'll believe the most likely that they were contrails, completely unrelated to what was going on beneath them except in your paranoid mind.  That you think they were laid purposely for this construction project when they likely covered many hundreds of square miles shows just how paranoid you are.

So the questions still stand unanswered.
Why are you assuming the trails had anything to do with the surveyors?  How did you determine the altitude?  How did you know they were "greasy"?

Any proof of your previous claim that these trails contain aluminum and/or barium?

How about your claim in another thread that I claimed to be a non-native English speaker?

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2016, 06:24:11 PM »
LOL!!!

What a jackass!

'They were contrails'....

LMFAO!!!

Seriously, neutrals; go look at this crank's youtube channel - LULZ!
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Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2016, 06:34:41 PM »
LOL!!!

What a jackass!

'They were contrails'....

LMFAO!!!

Seriously, neutrals; go look at this crank's youtube channel - LULZ!

You've provided no proof they are anything but.  But thanks for the admission of stalking. 

So the questions still stand unanswered:
Why are you assuming the trails had anything to do with the surveyors?  How did you determine the altitude?  How did you know they were "greasy"?

Any proof of your previous claim that these trails contain aluminum and/or barium?

How about your claim in another thread that I claimed to be a non-native English speaker?