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Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?

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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2018, 10:41:32 PM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 23, 2018, 09:20:03 PM
Quote from: John Davis on December 23, 2018, 05:15:14 PM
The idea that its impossible to prove any other idea wrong is one against the history and the philosophy of science.  Science has again and again benefited from contrary.  Every single notable advance has come about, by definition, from ignoring or outright throwing away current knowledge. Like the flu, the best you can hope for is to vaccinate against strains that will of course evolve.
The things Science found irrefutable are facts. For example, spinning Globe, Darwinism. But there is self-contradiction, because they wrongly believe, that Science is refutable. So, facts are not scientific things?!
Why do you persist with such fallacies?

"Science" is not a thing that "is refutable falsifiable". Individual scientific theories are falsifiable but not Science itself.

The slowly rotating Globe is still a scientific theory and is still falsifiable.
It is, however, supported by so much evidence that it could almost be said to be "Proven beyond Reasonable Doubt".
But your claim that "Science found Darwinism irrefutable" is simply incorrect.
Quote from: Wikipedia
Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by the English naturalist Charles Darwin (1809–1882) and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations that increase the individual's ability to compete, survive, and reproduce.
So Darwinism is certainly a scientific theory and as such is certainly falsifiable.
The part many question is "all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection" as that seems to deny "Special Creation".

It is, however, undeniable that evolution within species is so well demonstrated that it could be said to be "Proven beyond Reasonable Doubt".
John Davis gave a simple case of viruses mutating (within the species) and there are many similar cases right up to higher animals.

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Wikipedia:
A fact is a thing that is known to be consistent with objective reality and can be proven to be true with evidence. For example, "this sentence contains words" is a linguistic fact, and "the sun is a star" is a cosmological fact.
So your conclusion "Science is refutable. So, facts are not scientific things?!" is quite meaningless!
As above,  "Science" is not even a thing that can be "refutable" - scientific theories are falsfiable.
So there is no reason why there cannot be scientific facts - usually direct observations and the like.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #31 on: December 24, 2018, 12:06:53 AM »
Quote from: rabinoz on December 23, 2018, 10:41:32 PM
So there is no reason why there cannot be scientific facts - usually direct observations and the like.
Do you like Nihilism?
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #32 on: December 24, 2018, 12:55:26 AM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 24, 2018, 12:06:53 AM
Quote from: rabinoz on December 23, 2018, 10:41:32 PM
So there is no reason why there cannot be scientific facts - usually direct observations and the like.
Do you like Nihilism?
Irrelevant, so I'll not waste my time.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2018, 03:14:11 AM »
Quote from: rabinoz on December 24, 2018, 12:55:26 AM
Irrelevant, so I'll not waste my time.
If there are no doubt-free areas in Science, then it is Nihilism. Nihilism is not true, and not right, because rejects the existence of Absolute Truth.

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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #34 on: December 24, 2018, 04:54:02 AM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 24, 2018, 03:14:11 AM
Quote from: rabinoz on December 24, 2018, 12:55:26 AM
Irrelevant, so I'll not waste my time.
If there are no doubt-free areas in Science, then it is Nihilism. Nihilism is not true, and not right, because rejects the existence of Absolute Truth.
You are still on "Science" as a "thing". Science is simply the pursuit of knowledge.
So "Science" of itself is not a "thing" that can accept or reject anything including "the existence of Absolute Truth".

There are Scientific Theories and each of those are falsifiable in that they can be modified, extended or replaced if further or contrary evidence is found.
Newton's Theory of Universal Gravitation was shown by astronomers to be very accurate and with Newton's Theory of Motion had great predictive power when it came to calculating the expected orbits of the planets.
Newton's Theories were even able to be used to calculate the extremely small observed precession of the perihelion of the planets.
But the precession of the perihelion of the orbit of Mercury did not come out quite right by the unbelievably small 43 arcseconds per century.
This is a small part of reason Einstein pursued his Theory of General Relativity, which explained this discrepancy 43 arcseconds per century.
So Newton's Theory of Universal Gravitation has been falsified but only for regions of very high "gravity" so Newton is still used for almost all gravitation calculations.

That is how scientific theories can be falsified but "Science" is not in any falsified by that sort of thing. That is what science is., "the pursuit of knowledge".

Since you have not yet defined "Absolute Truth" I'll not comment but as yet I see nothing in science that "rejects the existence of Absolute Truth".
"Absolute Truth" is simply not a "scientific theory".
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2018, 07:46:01 AM »
Quote from: rabinoz on December 24, 2018, 04:54:02 AM
Since you have not yet defined "Absolute Truth" I'll not comment but as yet I see nothing in science that "rejects the existence of Absolute Truth".
"Absolute Truth" is simply not a "scientific theory".
The theories are true in own area of applicability, thus, the Newton Physics was never made false.
The false, however is the Newton assumption of infinite velocity of light.
Look the official definition of Truth:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_truth
Whoever does not know what the Truth is is a liar.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2018, 12:12:21 PM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 24, 2018, 03:14:11 AM
If there are no doubt-free areas in Science, then it is Nihilism. Nihilism is not true, and not right, because rejects the existence of Absolute Truth.
I'm pretty sure not a single statement in that was correct.
The only "doubt free" areas are simple observations (and even they can be taken to have some doubt as soon as it becomes recollection).
Other things are just beyond any reasonable doubt.
Nihilism comes in many forms, but the basic idea is that you know that you exist, but can't be certain of anything else.
There are lesser versions like existential nihilism which simply accepts that life does not have an objective meaning; and moral nihilism which rejects objective moral values.

That is completely separate from science, even what you presented it as.
So no, Nihilism is not science.

Absolute truth is simply anything which is true which is impossible to not be true, for example, a square has 4 sides, a square circle cannot exist, and so on.
Nihilism doesn't reject absolute truth.

Or by "absolute truth" did you mean the garbage you presented as absolute truth before?
If so yes, nihilism would typically reject your absolute truths, like "pixies are real", but so does almost every sane person.

Quote from: Astronomy on December 24, 2018, 07:46:01 AM
The theories are true in own area of applicability, thus, the Newton Physics was never made false.
Who said anything about Newtonian (I assume that is what you mean) Physics being false?

Again, falsifiable doesn't mean false.

Quote from: Astronomy on December 24, 2018, 07:46:01 AM
Look the official definition of Truth:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_truth
That is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary. That is also for the phrase absolute truth, not truth.

Absolute truth is a subset of truth.
To put it simply, an absolute truth is any truth which is absolute (i.e. not subject to anything, other than definitions).

For example, "a square has 4 sides" is an absolute truth. That is because nothing can change the truth value of that statement because by definition a square is a quadrilateral and thus it has 4 sides.

A non absolute truth would be something like "it is 7:12 am".
It may be true for a particular time zone at a particular time, and thus is true, but it is subject to the timezone and the time, and thus won't be true soon or in other locations.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #37 on: December 24, 2018, 02:31:10 PM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 24, 2018, 07:46:01 AM
Quote from: rabinoz on December 24, 2018, 04:54:02 AM
Since you have not yet defined "Absolute Truth" I'll not comment but as yet I see nothing in science that "rejects the existence of Absolute Truth".
"Absolute Truth" is simply not a "scientific theory".
The theories are true in own area of applicability, thus, the Newton Physics was never made false.
Well, Newton presented his Law of Universal Gravitation with no caveats and. unknowingly to him, based on a false assumption.
So whether you say it was falsified or not is simply a minor debating point .
The Law of Universal Gravitation was no longer Universally applicable because there are regions of space where it is far from accurate - QED!
But there are numerous early and not so early scientific theories that have been falsified.
  • Flat Earth theory. On length scales much smaller than the radius of the Earth, a flat map projection gives a quite accurate and practically useful approximation to true distances and sizes, but departures from flatness become increasingly significant over larger distances.
  • Aristotelian physics – superseded by Newtonian physics.
  • Spontaneous generation – a principle regarding the spontaneous generation of complex life from inanimate matter, which held that this process was a commonplace and everyday occurrence, as distinguished from univocal generation, or reproduction from parent(s). Falsified by an experiment by Louis Pasteur: where apparently spontaneous generation of microorganisms occurred, it did not happen on repeating the process without access to unfiltered air; on then opening the apparatus to the atmosphere, bacterial growth started.
  • John Dalton's model of the atom, which held that atoms are indivisible and indestructible (superseded by nuclear physics) and that all atoms of a given element are identical in mass (superseded by discovery of atomic isotopes).
  • Luminiferous aether theory.
  • Aristotelian physics – superseded by Newtonian physics.
etc, etc.

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The false, however is the Newton assumption of infinite velocity of light.
Look the official definition of Truth:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_truth
Whoever does not know what the Truth is a liar.
So you assert that someone ignorant of a fact is "a liar" - brilliant.
Well, so far you have refused to tell me what YOU believe "THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH" to be.
How am I to interpret that? Should I conclude that you are one "does not know what the Truth is"?

But none of that has any impact on science - the quest for knowledge or on the falsifiability of scientific theories.
There is not necessarily any conflict between "THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH" and "Science".

But it's Christmas!
Bye!
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #38 on: December 25, 2018, 01:27:20 AM »
Quote from: rabinoz on December 24, 2018, 02:31:10 PM
Well, so far you have refused to tell me what YOU believe "THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH" to be.
How am I to interpret that? Should I conclude that you are one "does not know what the Truth is"?
What is Absolute True about General Relativity? The following is Absolute True:

Assuming, that no evil spirit has modified the experiments, all made experiments have confirmed the General Relativity (one which is endorsed with hypothetical Dark Matter and Dark Energy) within the precision of measuring devices.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #39 on: December 25, 2018, 01:47:15 AM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 01:27:20 AM
Quote from: rabinoz on December 24, 2018, 02:31:10 PM
Well, so far you have refused to tell me what YOU believe "THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH" to be.
How am I to interpret that? Should I conclude that you are one "does not know what the Truth is"?
What is Absolute True about General Relativity? The following is Absolute True:

Assuming, that no evil spirit has modified the experiments, all made experiments have confirmed the General Relativity (one which is endorsed with hypothetical Dark Matter and Dark Energy) within the precision of measuring devices.

I'm pretty sure that Absolute True is that an evil spirit(s) has modified the experiments such that hypothetical Dark Matter and Dark Energy outside the precision of measuring devices yet within the confines of devices used to measure have confirmed the General Relativity as it pertains to the salad that are words strung together, as string, into theory and, therefore have thusly, extruded, squeezed out, if you will, like frosting flourettes onto a cake, a possibility that said cake, or even the salad, is divine, perhaps perfect. Carry on Astronomy. You have our rapt attention on all matters.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2018, 02:05:28 AM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 01:27:20 AM
Quote from: rabinoz on December 24, 2018, 02:31:10 PM
Well, so far you have refused to tell me what YOU believe "THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH" to be.
How am I to interpret that? Should I conclude that you are one "does not know what the Truth is"?
What is Absolute True about General Relativity?
Nobody ever claimed that General Relativity was "Absolute Truth"!
General Relativity is a scientific theory and as such is falsifiable.

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The following is Absolute True:

Assuming, that no evil spirit has modified the experiments, all made experiments have confirmed the General Relativity (one which is endorsed with hypothetical Dark Matter and Dark Energy) within the precision of measuring devices.
All you are saying is that it is "Absolutely True" that cosmologists don't know everything about what is happening thousands to billions of light years away!
Big deal! Those cosmologists would be the first to agree with you.

Try again!
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #41 on: December 25, 2018, 02:40:13 AM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 01:27:20 AM
The following is Absolute True:

Assuming
I can stop you there.
An Absolute truth wouldn't require assumptions.

But more so it is entirely dependent upon the experiments, meaning again, not absolute. It is hypothetically possible that in the future an experiment will be conducted which refutes it.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #42 on: December 25, 2018, 02:46:12 AM »
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 02:05:28 AM
Nobody ever claimed that General Relativity was "Absolute Truth"!
Agree, but my political wording above about GR is Absolute True.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #43 on: December 25, 2018, 02:48:13 AM »
Quote from: JackBlack on December 25, 2018, 02:40:13 AM
An Absolute truth wouldn't require assumptions.
I beg you, please, do not play God here! You are not God.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #44 on: December 25, 2018, 03:05:26 AM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 02:48:13 AM
Quote from: JackBlack on December 25, 2018, 02:40:13 AM
An Absolute truth wouldn't require assumptions.
I beg you, please, do not play God here! You are not God.

How would you know otherwise that he is not?
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #45 on: December 25, 2018, 03:18:46 AM »
Quote from: Stash on December 25, 2018, 03:05:26 AM
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 02:48:13 AM
Quote from: JackBlack on December 25, 2018, 02:40:13 AM
An Absolute truth wouldn't require assumptions.
I beg you, please, do not play God here! You are not God.

How would you know otherwise that he is not?
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #46 on: December 25, 2018, 03:35:19 AM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 02:46:12 AM
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 02:05:28 AM
Nobody ever claimed that General Relativity was "Absolute Truth"!
Agree, but my political wording above about GR is Absolute True.
And meaningless because:
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 02:05:28 AM
All you are saying is that it is "Absolutely True" that cosmologists don't know everything about what is happening thousands to billions of light years away!
Big deal! Those cosmologists would be the first to agree with you.
Next time, don't bother replying until you have something relevant to add.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #47 on: December 25, 2018, 03:47:38 AM »
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 03:35:19 AM
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 02:46:12 AM
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 02:05:28 AM
Nobody ever claimed that General Relativity was "Absolute Truth"!
Agree, but my political wording above about GR is Absolute True.
And meaningless because:
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 02:05:28 AM
All you are saying is that it is "Absolutely True" that cosmologists don't know everything about what is happening thousands to billions of light years away!
Big deal! Those cosmologists would be the first to agree with you.
Next time, don't bother replying until you have something relevant to add.
I am not a psychologist, I do not get it.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #48 on: December 25, 2018, 04:38:31 AM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 03:47:38 AM
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 03:35:19 AM
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 02:46:12 AM
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 02:05:28 AM
Nobody ever claimed that General Relativity was "Absolute Truth"!
Agree, but my political wording above about GR is Absolute True.
And meaningless because:
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 02:05:28 AM
All you are saying is that it is "Absolutely True" that cosmologists don't know everything about what is happening thousands to billions of light years away!
Big deal! Those cosmologists would be the first to agree with you.
Next time, don't bother replying until you have something relevant to add.
I am not a psychologist, I do not get it.
I don't see why you need to be "a psychologist". What don't you "get"?

You claimed that your "political wording above about GR is Absolute True" but why was that even relevant? It is no argument against General Relativity.
Observations show is that the orbital velocities of stars around the Galactic Centres seem too fast to be explained by the observed mass so "dark matter" is a "placeholder" for whatever is causing that.

As evidenced by the observed red-shifts, the Universe seems to be expanding at an increasing rate. This would seem to require energy so "dark energy" is a "placeholder" for whatever is causing this.

But none of that is evidence that General Relativity might be incorrect.

But physicists know that General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are not "compatible" but so far there has been no way to unify them.
General Relativity is still an "unquantised" classical theory yet a low "size" limit has not yet been reached where GR fails.

So it has been stated more than once that a certain way to win a Nobel Prize would be to disprove General Relativity! Albert Einstein's thoughts on falsifiability.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #49 on: December 25, 2018, 04:47:33 AM »
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 04:38:31 AM
But physicists know that General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are not "compatible" but so far there has been no way to unify them.
I have Absolute True paper, what explains Dark stuff, and unites the QM and GR. Do you need the link? But it highly technical
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #50 on: December 25, 2018, 12:46:18 PM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 02:48:13 AM
Quote from: JackBlack on December 25, 2018, 02:40:13 AM
An Absolute truth wouldn't require assumptions.
I beg you, please, do not play God here! You are not God.
I'm not. I'm just pointing out you don't have an absolute truth in that statement.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #51 on: December 25, 2018, 01:29:40 PM »
Quote from: JackBlack on December 25, 2018, 12:46:18 PM
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 02:48:13 AM
Quote from: JackBlack on December 25, 2018, 02:40:13 AM
An Absolute truth wouldn't require assumptions.
I beg you, please, do not play God here! You are not God.
I'm not. I'm just pointing out you don't have an absolute truth in that statement.
You have no reason to point that, unless you are Omniscient.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #52 on: December 25, 2018, 01:49:34 PM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 01:29:40 PM
You have no reason to point that, unless you are Omniscient.
Or if I just understand the definition of absolute truth.
Very few things fall under the category of absolute truth and most are tautologies.

If it relies upon experiments or observations or assumptions it cannot be absolute truth. It can be truth, just not absolute.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #53 on: December 25, 2018, 01:59:57 PM »
Quote from: JackBlack on December 25, 2018, 01:49:34 PM
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 01:29:40 PM
You have no reason to point that, unless you are Omniscient.
Or if I just understand the definition of absolute truth.
Very few things fall under the category of absolute truth and most are tautologies.

If it relies upon experiments or observations or assumptions it cannot be absolute truth. It can be truth, just not absolute.
Stop talking like a god. You are not a god. Therefore, please define Absolute Truth. Absolute Truth is what can not be falsified. Then derive from it the ban of assumptions in Absolute True statements.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #54 on: December 25, 2018, 02:42:35 PM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 04:47:33 AM
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 04:38:31 AM
But physicists know that General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are not "compatible" but so far there has been no way to unify them.
I have Absolute True paper, what explains Dark stuff, and unites the QM and GR. Do you need the link? But it highly technical
If it's anything like your pebbles orbiting that the sun there seems little point but if send it if you like.

But just get this straight, the Heliocentric Solar System does not need the support modern Cosmology with its dark matter, accelerating universe (and dark energy).

The Globe first and then the Heliocentric Solar System were proven beyond reasonable doubt long before modern cosmology came along and nothing you do, write or say will change that.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #55 on: December 25, 2018, 02:57:02 PM »
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 02:42:35 PM

The Globe first and then the Heliocentric Solar System were proven beyond reasonable doubt long before modern cosmology came along and nothing you do, write or say will change that.

Imagine rabinoz rolling around on the ground flaying his arms and kicking his legs while screaming that at the top of his lungs.
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #56 on: December 25, 2018, 03:21:34 PM »
Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 25, 2018, 02:57:02 PM
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 02:42:35 PM

The Globe first and then the Heliocentric Solar System were proven beyond reasonable doubt long before modern cosmology came along and nothing you do, write or say will change that.

Imagine rabinoz rolling around on the ground flaying his arms and kicking his legs while screaming that at the top of his lungs.
Nope, just sitting here calmly telling Astronomy some of the "facts of life". So please desist from your pretence at "knowing" my state of mind!
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #57 on: December 25, 2018, 04:04:22 PM »
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 01:59:57 PM
Stop talking like a god.
I'm not. If I was going to talk like a god I would demand your silence and worship and threaten you if you disobey.

Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 01:59:57 PM
Therefore, please define Absolute Truth.
I already have, repeatedly.
The simple idea is that it is truth which is absolute.
What this means is that it is a true statement which is not dependent upon anything.
It is true throughout time and space, no matter the circumstances.
An example is the statement "a square has 4 sides".

Another simple idea is that it is impossible for it to not be true.

Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 01:59:57 PM
Absolute Truth is what can not be falsified.
We have been over this. That is not what absolute truth is.
The inability to falsify a statement doesn't make it absolute truth.
If you used that definition all sorts of nonsense would be deemed "absolute truth", including the existence and non-existence of pixies. Yes, both statements because you can't falsify the claim that they exist, and as it can be set up that their existence has the same results as their non-existence, then you can't falsify the claim that they don't exist.

Is that really the path you want to go down?
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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #58 on: December 25, 2018, 07:41:39 PM »
Quote from: JackBlack on December 25, 2018, 04:04:22 PM
If you used that definition all sorts of nonsense would be deemed "absolute truth", including the existence and non-existence of pixies. Yes, both statements because you can't falsify the claim that they exist,
Look the Scientific dialog:

Bob: I claim now, that yesterday I met a pixy in the forest. Can you believe that?
Maria: I am Christian, so in my faith the pixies and other mythical beings are devils and evil spirits.
Bob: can you prove your faith to me?
Maria: Bible is historical book and talks about how Jesus was risen from the dead.
Bob: But what if I am an atheist?
Maria: then you are a liar. Have you never lied in all your life???
Bob: Fair enough. But what if I claim, that aliens on other planets do exist? Some saints in your Church do allow that possibility.
Maria: Then yes, it is a possibility.
Bob: But what if I claim, that aliens exist? You can not falsify it, so you must think, that aliens are Absolute Truth?
Maria: You have no Scientific right to claim the existence of aliens. You have right to claim possibility of aliens.

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Re: Can this disprove the Flat Earth possibility?
« Reply #59 on: December 25, 2018, 10:15:05 PM »
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: Astronomy on December 25, 2018, 04:47:33 AM
Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 04:38:31 AM
But physicists know that General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are not "compatible" but so far there has been no way to unify them.
I have Absolute True paper, what explains Dark stuff, and unites the QM and GR. Do you need the link? But it highly technical
If it's anything like your pebbles orbiting that the sun there seems little point but if send it if you like.
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