I say it’s fanciful because it is.
Perhaps you could give some information on some of the hard facts that you imagine exist.
Possibly you could include the details of the researchers that produced them.
The problem is fanciful ideas are fanciful. Pointing that out is neither horrible or being closed minded it’s just stating the obvious.
As I said if you know some facts that could blow this open, prove the conspiracy is true then please share, as it would be horrible not to.
Notice how you aren't actually objecting to what I said?
I said that not trying to figure things out makes you closed minded.
Imagine it the other way around, a FEer asks about trying to figure out how something works on the RE, and then someone like you responds stating:
"Don’t even try to figure it out. The notion of a round earth is no more than a fanciful belief. If people wish to believe the earth is round then that’s fine. But don’t imagine that round earth belief has robust explanations for any natural event that will stand up to the slightest scrutiny."
Would you consider such a person closed minded? Or is it fine for them to dismiss the RE like that?
After all, they would claim they would say "it's fanciful because it is."
Or because you think FE is wrong and RE is right, they are closed minded and you aren't?
This hypothetical person would respond that because they think RE is wrong and FE is right, that they are not closed minded but you are.
Rather than focusing on me why not address the point of the discussion. I imagine that’s the whole point in coming here to join in discussing the topic rather than the people posting.
Yes, why not address the point of the discussion? Rather than just dismissing the FE as fantasy and telling people to not even bother trying to figure it out, why not actually try to address the issue?
Why not try to explain some of the logical consequences of how sunrise and sunset interacts with a FE.
For example, consider what this would mean without bendy light, and the observation that the sun is ~due west at a specific time for everyone at a given longitude, even if limited to just to the northern parts of Canada to the southern parts of Chile.
That span of areas covers a distance of over 13 000 km.
If we be generous and give a margin of error of 1 degree, that places the sun over 350 000 km away. This would mean it couldn't be observed to be directly overhead for anyone.
But in reality, while the sun is rising or setting for one location, it is directly above a different location ~10 000 km away, on the equinox, that is some point on the equator, roughly 90 degrees of longitude away.
So the only way for this to work is if the light from the sun bends, which raises the question of what is causing it to bend, especially in such a way that makes it appear as a very distant sun and a RE?