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Some polemicists among Christians, having seen the scale of conversions from Christianity to Islam, got into the idea of propagating false conversions in the opposite direction. It is not a question here of denying this reality, but simply of exposing the false accounts of conversion which circulate on the Internet.
So, in my opinion, this “testimony” should be classified under the rubric of “ignorants pretending to be ex-Muslims”.

There are so many on the internet,



مبشر مسيحي جاء كي يناظر ش.عثمان بن فاروق +  مسيحية تعتنق الإسلام

Why do bad things happen to good people? Is it Gods way of testing someone? Why does he use us as play things?

Remember the story of Job? A devout follower of God and all round great guy. What does God do? In a pissing contest with Satan he allows Satan to utterly destroy Jobs life. Murders his 10 children, all livestock, all possessions, his wealth gone and gives him massive skin sores all over his body.

Sorry yasoooo but God sounds like an utter psycho. Who the fuck does he think he is?

Why did you leave Christianity and accept Islam ?

The hats, mainly.

So why wasn't the writer of the Quran aware of the Americas or Australia?

ALLAH SWT knows everything
Creator of the universe

ALLAH knows everything on earth and in heaven

He tests people as he wants




Remember, O ungrateful one, the blessing of God upon you is the earth and the sky, your body, your eyes, your nose, your mouth, your hands, your feet, etc.
All this for free in exchange for worshiping only the one God


And when you die, you  can't   prevent your soul from leaving or to bring it back into your body

Many unbelievers deny God, but we all need God in distress and prosperity

. . ALLAH SWT mentions in Noble Quran that ALLAH knows what you hide in your hearts/chest. In another place he says he knows what you display and what you hide. ALLAH SWT also mentions in Noble Quran that he keeps creating, Which means his creation is so vast and we human cannot even imagine that.

Usually people take this question in another way. They say if ALLAH knows everything then why doesn’t he solve our problems. Why he doesn’t listen to the tears of people or why doesn’t he clean the atmosphere. They ask all kinds of questions. , this word has been designed in this way. You cannot watch TV and drink coffee while taking exam. This is how this world works. It’s a testing place. We need to perform well to earn well in hereafter. That is why ALLAH SWT mentions in Noble Quran that things or comfort in this world is nothing compare to hereafter. This world is a like a dream. Our lives have become robotic which makes it even shorter. In such a short life we need to worship the true God. Recognize him and obey him.

So in the hereafter ALLAH SWT will judge us based on our performance in this world. He will reward those who did good and punish those who did evil. Everyone will be treated fairly. This world is a chance for us to do good and the reward will be given in hereafter. This is how it works whether we like it or not.

ALLAH SWT knows everything
Creator of the universe

ALLAH knows everything on earth and in heaven

He tests people as he wants




Remember, O ungrateful one, the blessing of God upon you is the earth and the sky, your body, your eyes, your nose, your mouth, your hands, your feet, etc.
All this for free in exchange for worshiping only the one God


And when you die, you  can't   prevent your soul from leaving or to bring it back into your body

Many unbelievers deny God, but we all need God in distress and prosperity

. . ALLAH SWT mentions in Noble Quran that ALLAH knows what you hide in your hearts/chest. In another place he says he knows what you display and what you hide. ALLAH SWT also mentions in Noble Quran that he keeps creating, Which means his creation is so vast and we human cannot even imagine that.

Usually people take this question in another way. They say if ALLAH knows everything then why doesn’t he solve our problems. Why he doesn’t listen to the tears of people or why doesn’t he clean the atmosphere. They ask all kinds of questions. , this word has been designed in this way. You cannot watch TV and drink coffee while taking exam. This is how this world works. It’s a testing place. We need to perform well to earn well in hereafter. That is why ALLAH SWT mentions in Noble Quran that things or comfort in this world is nothing compare to hereafter. This world is a like a dream. Our lives have become robotic which makes it even shorter. In such a short life we need to worship the true God. Recognize him and obey him.

So in the hereafter ALLAH SWT will judge us based on our performance in this world. He will reward those who did good and punish those who did evil. Everyone will be treated fairly. This world is a chance for us to do good and the reward will be given in hereafter. This is how it works whether we like it or not.

Was Job treated fairly? What about his 10 children?? They died! Were they treated fairly?

Can I request to God that I do not wish to be a part of his tests? I dont care for his perverted pleasures when he 'tests when he wants'. To hell with that. He seems like quite an unpleasant bastard and I have no desire to spend eternity with him.

God created the universe,

God knows about Australia and America
 but
 God has different measures in His creation

We do not say that God does not know

, nor do we say why he did that

It is necessary to act in good faith with God
 and good manners

God created the universe,

God knows about Australia and America
 but
 God has different measures in His creation

We do not say that God does not know

, nor do we say why he did that

It is necessary to act in good faith with God
 and good manners

Respect is earned. It's a 2 way street. If God wants to treat us like play things where he can fuck up our lives and murder our children just to 'test' us, then I say he is a malevolent dickwad unworthy of devotion or respect. He is without honour. I dont care if he created the universe. He's still an arsehole and he gets no reverence from me

Quote from: yasoooo on February 02, 2022, 04:17:51 AM

God created the universe,

God knows about Australia and America
 but
 God has different measures in His creation

We do not say that God does not know

, nor do we say why he did that

It is necessary to act in good faith with God
 and good manners

Respect is earned. It's a 2 way street. If God wants to treat us like play things where he can fuck up our lives and murder our children just to 'test' us, then I say he is a malevolent dickwad unworthy of devotion or respect. He is without honour. I dont care if he created the universe. He's still an arsehole and he gets no reverence from me

Wait, how can God use measures when measuring systems weren't a thing yet in his time?

comparison between modern knowledge and passages in the Qur’an that are also referred to in the Bible.
Creation
We have already come across some of the contradictions between scripture and science regarding the creation of the universe. When dealing with that topic, I stressed the perfect agreement between modern knowledge and verses in the Qur’an, and pointed out that the Biblical narration contained statements that were scientifically unacceptable.

This is hardly surprising if we are aware that the narration of the creation contained in the Bible was the work of priests living in the sixth century BC, hence the term ‘sacerdotal’ ( priestly ) narration is officially used to refer to it. The narration seems to have been conceived as the theme of a sermon designed to exhort people to observe the Sabbath. The narration was constructed with a definite end in view, and as Father de Vaux (a former head of the Biblical School of Jerusalem) has noted, this end was essentially legalist in character.


The Bible also contains a much shorter and older narration of Creation, the so-called ‘Yahvist’ version, which approaches the subject from a completely different angle. They are both taken from Genesis, the first book of the Pentateuch or Torah. Moses is supposed to have been its author, but the text we have today has undergone many changes.


The sacerdotal narration of Genesis is famous for its whimsical genealogies, that go back to Adam, and which nobody takes very seriously. Nevertheless, such Gospel authors as Matthew and Luke have reproduced them, more or less word-for-word, in their genealogies of Jesus. Matthew goes back as far as Abraham, and Luke to Adam. These writings are scientifically unacceptable, because they set a date for the age of the world and the time humans appeared on Earth, which most definitely contradicts what modern science has firmly established. The Qur’an, on the other hand, is completely free of dates of this kind.

Earlier on, we noted how perfectly the Qur’an agrees with modern ideas on the formation of the Universe. On the other hand, the Biblical narration of primordial waters is hardly, nor is the creation of light on the first day before the creation of the stars which produce this light; the existence of an evening and a morning before the creation of the earth; the creation of the earth on the third day before that of the sun on the fourth; the appearance of beasts of the earth on the sixth day after the appearance of the birds of the air on the fifth day, although the former came first. All these statements are the result of beliefs prevalent at the time this text was written and do not have any other meaning.
Qur'an & Bible In The Light of Science - The Ultimate Dialogue

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God created the universe,

God knows about Australia and America
 
 

So god didn't write the Quran?  Surely if he did he would have told his prophets to go to the Americas and Australia?

Especially as he must have known the Christians would get there first.

Who is the Author of the Glorious Quran? | Dr Zakir Naik

The Quran is only glorious when used as kindling for a fire place or camp fire. Otherwise it's a nonsensial work of fiction and a tool used to make millions of people subservient.

I dont care what passages you think sound enlightened and cherry pick. In every case, those words are twisted into a hammer and used to beat people down

Media & Islam War or Peace ? by Dr. Zakir Naik (Full VCD Quality)

Islam has always been about violence, war and bloodshed. Even today they cant get along and kill each other. Sunni vs Shiite etc. It's madness.

Islam has always been about violence, war and bloodshed. Even today they cant get along and kill each other. Sunni vs Shiite etc. It's madness.

Purely in the interest of fairness, the same could be said of Christianity for much of its history.

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 03, 2022, 06:38:02 AM

Islam has always been about violence, war and bloodshed. Even today they cant get along and kill each other. Sunni vs Shiite etc. It's madness.

Purely in the interest of fairness, the same could be said of Christianity for much of its history.

Indeed. Religion is just a tool, invented by man, to control the masses

Iron is one of the elements highlighted in the Qur'an. There is even a chapter named "al-Hadid", which means "iron".
The following is stated in verse 25 of the chapter of al-Hadid:


"And We also sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind." (al-Hadid, 25)

The word "anzalna", used for the formation of iron in the verse means "we sent down". However, what we know is that the iron is dug out from the underground. In our opinion, "we dug out" should have been preferred instead of "we sent down". However, the situation is not as what we think. With the expression "we sent down" in the verse, a very important scientific miracle is pointed out.



It is as follows: For the formation of the mineral of iron, a certain temperature is needed. This necessary temperature exists neither in the earth nor in the sun. The sun has a surface temperature of 6.000 degrees Celsius, and a core temperature of approximately 15 million degrees. However, this temperature is inadequate for the formation of iron. Iron can only be produced in stars much larger than the Sun, where the temperature reaches a few hundred million degrees. When the amount of iron exceeds a certain level in stars called a "nova" or a "supernova", the star can no longer accommodate it, and it eventually explodes. These explosions make it possible for iron to be dispersed into space. All astronomic discoveries have put forth that the mineral of iron comes from huge stars of outer space.




Not only the iron in the earth but also the iron in the solar system is acquired from outer space. For, as we have stated before, the temperature of the sun is not enough for the formation of the iron mineral. What is understood from all above is that the mineral of iron is not formed in the earth but sent down by being carried away from supernovas just as it is stated in the verse.



It is not possible for this knowledge to be known in the age when the Qur'an was revealed, that is, 1400 years ago. Since it is not possible, how can it be explained that this information exists in the Qur'an?
Is there any explanation other than the fact that the Qur'an is the book of Allah?
Besides, it has been mentioned in the verse that the iron has many benefits for humans. However, people used the iron only to make swords at the time when this verse was revealed and did not know other benefits of the iron. Despite this, the Qur'an stated, "it has many benefits for mankind".

Now let us see the latest scientific data on iron:




Without the iron atom, carbon-based life in the cosmos would not be possible.
That is, there would be no supernovae, no heating of the primitive earth, no atmosphere or hydrosphere. There would be no protective magnetic field, no Van Allen radiation belts, no ozone layer, no metal to make hemoglobin in human blood, no metal to tame the reactivity of oxygen, and no oxidative metabolism.
It is very significant and wise that attention is attracted to the iron particularly and that the following is stated about it: "iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind".





Along with what we have mentioned above, there is one more secret in this verse. It is as follows: The verse that mentions iron is verse 25 of the chapter of al-Hadid. This verse contains two rather interesting mathematical codes



"Al-Hadid" is the 57th chapter in the Qur'an. When the word is uttered with the definite article al (the) as "al-Hadid" in Arabic, the sum of the abjad value (numerological value) of its letters is also 57. The numerological value of the word "hadid" alone (without the definite article) is 26. And 26 is the atomic number of the iron. That is, when we utter it as al-hadid, its numerological value is 57, which is the number of the chapter in the Quran. When we utter it as hadid, its numerological value is 26, which is the atomic number of the iron




Now, let us think justly: Is it possible for a human being who could not read and write and who lived in the desert 1400 years ago, when science and technology did not exist even by name, to know that iron was sent down from the sky and to write it in a book by paying attention to numerological values? Can any sane person accept it? Can a person who accepts it be regarded sane?




In that case, it is nonsense and delusion equal to closing one's eye to the sun, which illuminates the world, to say that the Quran is the word of a human being. A person who closes his eyes is able to turn day into night only for himself. We send endless praise and thanks to our Lord, who does not leave us in darkness and who turns the night into day with the light of the Quran.



Iron In The Quran


christian scientist confirm Quran is true!




Scientists amazed (1 of 2) by Quran's scientific facts





Scientists amazed (2 of 2) by Quran's scientific facts

Yasoooo what do you think of people who commit suicide? What about people like that ISIS leader (who probably thinks Allah loves him) who not only killed himself, but took out his family, including children. Is a guy like that destined for Paradise or Hell?

As far as I know, suicide is a mortal sin. It is not something you have the chance to atone for. And this guy murdered 12 others along the way. Surely Allah is most displeased with this action

However I'm not sure where Islam stands on this. ISIS is proudly adherents to Islam and suicide seems to be celebrated and glorified. Are people like me right to be disgusted at these actions? Are you disgusted at suicide bombers? Or are they martyrs?

رفتاة مسيحية تعتنق الاسلام و تبكي مع الداعيه شمسي مترجم


الداعيه شمسي يشرح لشاب مسيحي محمد في الانجيل مترحم new

Yasoooo can you answer my questions?

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Why don't you answer my questions yasoooo? Is it because you find the answers uncomfortable?

Yasoooo what do you think of people who commit suicide? What about people like that ISIS leader (who probably thinks Allah loves him) who not only killed himself, but took out his family, including children. Is a guy like that destined for Paradise or Hell?

As far as I know, suicide is a mortal sin. It is not something you have the chance to atone for. And this guy murdered 12 others along the way. Surely Allah is most displeased with this action

However I'm not sure where Islam stands on this. ISIS is proudly adherents to Islam and suicide seems to be celebrated and glorified. Are people like me right to be disgusted at these actions? Are you disgusted at suicide bombers? Or are they martyrs?

It's an honest question that many people around the world wonder what general Muslims think about these kinds of actions taken by other Muslims. So what is it that you think?

You are just brainwashed by fake media about MuslimsAnd because there are some misguided groups that attribute themselves to Islam, such as ISIS, and they kill Muslims and non-Muslims They are financed and supplied by the West with weapons

The Prophet Muhammad or quran did not say kill the innocent and blow yourself up

It is not permissible to commit suicide in Islam

you  don't have the slightest clue what is going on . All we have is zionist media,

I didn't live with them and I don't care what the fake media thinks

So that I don't judge people ignorantly


The best way to understand Islam is to refer to its divine source. The source of Islam is the Holy Quran; and the model of morality described in the Holy Quran is completely different from what is conveyed in the West. The Holy Quran is based on the concepts of good character, love, compassion, mercy, humility, dedication, tolerance and peace. A Muslim who lives by these moral precepts is refined, thoughtful, tolerant, trustworthy and obliging.

Islam offers love, respect, peace and a zest for life to those around him. And if we stick to the root of the word Islam, which is "salam" and which means "peace" we will quickly understand that Islam sets its foundations on peace; be it social and spiritual. The facts of history - which are solid and absolute - as well as the testimonies of non-Muslim scholars from east and west confirm this

Islam Vs Terrorism | Khalid Yasin (Part 1 of 2)



Islam Vs Terrorism | Khalid Yasin (Part 2 of 2)

Ok. Fair enough, but groups like ISIS do claim to be Islamic and seek to have a caliphate. Surely these people branding themselves as Islamic is a problem for Islam then. It's not just western media saying they are Islamic. It's the groups themselves. Osama Bin Laden often used and praised suicide bombers.

Palestinians also seem to use suicide bombers as a tool against Israelis. It's hideous

What I don't understand is Muslim silence on these groups and their activities. Yet if some moron makes a crappy video about Mohammed, Muslims all over the world rise up and protest / riot. It's not proportional

What I don't understand is Muslim silence on these groups and their activities. Yet if some moron makes a crappy video about Mohammed, Muslims all over the world rise up and protest / riot. It's not proportional

A building is only as strong as its foundation - it must be protected at all costs.  Fail to do so, and all you'll be left with is the rubble of a lie.

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 05, 2022, 01:40:23 PM

What I don't understand is Muslim silence on these groups and their activities. Yet if some moron makes a crappy video about Mohammed, Muslims all over the world rise up and protest / riot. It's not proportional

A building is only as strong as its foundation - it must be protected at all costs.  Fail to do so, and all you'll be left with is the rubble of a lie.

Well they don't seem to want to protect it from bad actors who use the Islam brand and taint its message all over the world

To be so vocal even to the point of violence and death threats over a amateur video (that no one would have known about if not for their raging) but completely silent on the barbaric terrorism from the likes of Al Queda and ISIS,  tends to be a show of acceptance or even support of their activities

If Islam really cared about their image, why the silence?No condemnation. No disavowing or counter message. You would think they would care given the people most at risk to these groups of being brainwashed are fellow Muslims

ISIS is the same as created and controlled by the Zionists. ISIS fighters are provided with abundant free "all weapons" to create evil monsters beyond imagination. They return to ISISRAHELL for medical treatment.
They kill Muslims and non-Muslims
Many extremists are armed with the West

    Therefore
    Islam has nothing to do with these false accusations


the familiar fact of Washington's unwavering support for Israel in the diplomatic arena, at what sometimes seems like a heavy cost to America's interests. And there were threats against those in Washington who opposed Israeli policies: 

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One respected Christian told me

I'm sorry we keep bombing Muslim countries. It isn't fair. We have no right to do it, you have every right to be mad at us.

Please understand that these wars have been for a tiny minority of the West and not for the good of the West in general.

We were never allowed to vote on them and no matter what party is elected the wars continue. It's fair to be angry with the Zionists in Western governments that support these endless wars but most of our population is just stupid and misinformed. It's been happening for so long now it's been normalized

AIPAC has a lot of influence over American politics and have very effective methods of silencing people who speak out against the wars. They are so powerful I worry I will be banned for pointing out their power.

Also please don't believe that all Christians are "Judeo-Christians" who support the never ending wars in the middle east. Although again I understand and think you have a right to be angry with us.
Truth be told.
We can see the inexorable decline of the West at a now very fast pace.

When the West declines the East will take over.
Near East versus Far East?

I rather be under an Islam ruled world than a China ruled one.
Thank God India is not in the race


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Many non Muslims, including Christians to atheists hate the bombing and wars. I think you'll find the large majority of the population hate the wars and religion has nothing to do with it. I class myself as agnostic these days - I see America as the antagonist. I see those terror groups like Al Queda and ISIS as American creations

I don't subscribe to any religious doctrine because I think we should live free. I'll not be subservient to anyone or anything. People however should be free to subscribe to any faith they like - so long as they keep it to themselves and  it infringe on peoples life or liberties. If someone is gay they should not be ostracised for it for example. I see  oth Islam and Christianity as extremely intolerant. I don't care for either. Too much politics infested in both