Question about Circle & Square?

We can change a square to circle but if we did so can we still call it a square?

A square is a circle.

A circle is a square.

There is no God but Allah and Muhammed is His prophet.

These are the facts, ladies and gentlemen.

We can change a square to circle but if we did so can we still call it a square?

A square has corners.  A circle does not.  So no, it is not still a square.  What does this have to do with religion and philosophy?

A square is a circle.

A circle is a square.

There is no God but Allah and Muhammed is His prophet.

These are the facts, ladies and gentlemen.

Let me give them the "Hojja"  

but seriously by definition can a square that was changed to circle still be called a square?

A square has corners.  A circle does not.  So no, it is not still a square.  What does this have to do with religion and philosophy?

Is that your opinion or a fact? 

Quote from: T.T. Monsieur on December 03, 2008, 12:32:26 PM

A square is a circle.

A circle is a square.

There is no God but Allah and Muhammed is His prophet.

These are the facts, ladies and gentlemen.

Let me give them the "Hojja" 

but seriously by definition can a square that was changed to circle still be called a square?

The short answer is no.

Guys I really want to know if your answering based on facts or simply opinions!?

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A square has corners.  A circle does not.  So no, it is not still a square.  What does this have to do with religion and philosophy?

Is that your opinion or a fact? 

As far as what I learned in geometry, I understand that to be a fact.  Why?

They are opinions, insofar as it is an opinion that definitions of English words are valid.

Now I ask a group of Christians friends who claims that Jesus is a God! or a God became Human!

By definition of both God & Human!

Can a God be a human and still be GOD! Can God become Jesus (Human) and still be considered a God

Why some of our dear Christians friends want us to believe the IMPOSSIBLE!?

Please be Honest to yourself, can A God become a Human and still be considered as THE GOD...

A god may perhaps possess a human, or take on the physical form of a human, but he will still have the potential to become a god again. So I say, no, a god cannot fully become a human and still be a god.

Now I ask a group of Christians friends who claims that Jesus is a God! or a God became Human!

By definition of both God & Human!

Can a God be a human and still be GOD! Can God become Jesus (Human) and still be considered a God

Why some of our dear Christians friends want us to believe the IMPOSSIBLE!?

Please be Honest to yourself, can A God become a Human and still be considered as THE GOD...

A god doesn't have the limitations of a circle and square.  They can only be what they are.  A god can choose to be whoever or whatever he/she/it wants to be.  Think of it this way.

A poodle is a dog.  A dog isn't always a poodle.

Jesus was a form of God.  God is not always Jesus.

A god may perhaps possess a human, or take on the physical form of a human, but he will still have the potential to become a god again. So I say, no, a god cannot fully become a human and still be a god.

Alright but when he is in that human body this mean at least at this second he wasn't God and be definition he cannot be named as The God. Now I ask in another way, a can The God cease to be a The God for even a second!?

A god doesn't have the limitations of a circle and square.  They can only be what they are.  A god can choose to be whoever or whatever he/she/it wants to be.  Think of it this way.

A poodle is a dog.  A dog isn't always a poodle.

Jesus was a form of God.  God is not always Jesus.

Dear Moonlit thanks for explaining, however I will try to give you another Example!

Can some be called "ALL-WISE" and at the same time "IGNORANT" ? if the All-Wise became ignorant for a second can he be called All-Wise!?

Can a man be considered "Alive" and at the same time "Dead" by definition?

Try to ask yourself these type of questions....

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A god may perhaps possess a human, or take on the physical form of a human, but he will still have the potential to become a god again. So I say, no, a god cannot fully become a human and still be a god.

Alright but when he is in that human body this mean at least at this second he wasn't God and be definition he cannot be named as The God. Now I ask in another way, a can The God cease to be a The God for even a second!?

I think so, yes. God is omnipotent, after all. Though, after he changes, I don't think that he can change back.

a square and circle are mutaully exclusive terms used to descibe shapes.
to have a square circle or a circular square is a contradiction in terms.

such as a married bachelor.
or an intelligent tom bishop.

becasue the terms imply things that cannot be simultaneous, it is impossible to create such an object in this world.
so... no.

a square and circle are mutaully exclusive terms used to descibe shapes.
to have a square circle or a circular square is a contradiction in terms.

such as a married bachelor.
or an intelligent tom bishop.

becasue the terms imply things that cannot be simultaneous, it is impossible to create such an object in this world.
so... no.

Good work, now read past the first post.

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A god may perhaps possess a human, or take on the physical form of a human, but he will still have the potential to become a god again. So I say, no, a god cannot fully become a human and still be a god.

Alright but when he is in that human body this mean at least at this second he wasn't God and be definition he cannot be named as The God. Now I ask in another way, a can The God cease to be a The God for even a second!?

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A god doesn't have the limitations of a circle and square.  They can only be what they are.  A god can choose to be whoever or whatever he/she/it wants to be.  Think of it this way.

A poodle is a dog.  A dog isn't always a poodle.

Jesus was a form of God.  God is not always Jesus.

Dear Moonlit thanks for explaining, however I will try to give you another Example!

Can some be called "ALL-WISE" and at the same time "IGNORANT" ? if the All-Wise became ignorant for a second can he be called All-Wise!?

Can a man be considered "Alive" and at the same time "Dead" by definition?

Try to ask yourself these type of questions....

How did he become ignorant?  I've never heard that.

I think so, yes. God is omnipotent, after all. Though, after he changes, I don't think that he can change back.

Here comes the question, why Christian then believing in the impossible! I really would like to know why? is it because the possible is not present?

How did he become ignorant?  I've never heard that.

That was an example, and how he can be Ignorant there are many verses proves Jesus didn't know everything.

ok here is another!

can "Seeing-All" be "Limited Vision" at the same time!? of course not, now please read the story of Jesus when he was riding the donkey and the tree and the time he felt hungry

See questioning can clear alot of things and hopefully would guide you to right path.

Abdul derailed his own thread.

He did not. He had a question with three parts.

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I think so, yes. God is omnipotent, after all. Though, after he changes, I don't think that he can change back.

Here comes the question, why Christian then believing in the impossible! I really would like to know why? is it because the possible is not present?

I wouldn't know. Of course, I'm not a christian.

That was an example, and how he can be Ignorant there are many verses proves Jesus didn't know everything.

ok here is another!

can "Seeing-All" be "Limited Vision" at the same time!? of course not, now please read the story of Jesus when he was riding the donkey and the tree and the time he felt hungry

See questioning can clear alot of things and hopefully would guide you to right path.

Welcome to arguments against Christianity 101!!   Kingman and/or Althalus should be along shortly to have this debate with you.  I'm not a Christian so I don't get it myself.

He did not. He had a question with three parts.

The OP claims to have a question about circles and squares.

Now he is arguing the definition of God with a bunch of atheists who don't give a shit.

Join us next week while Frankenstein's monster makes trouble in the kitchen!

There are introductions to reach your goal if it was so hard I am aiming for Christians and for people who believe God can become human

I will wait for Athalus now, after the clear example, why Christians still believing the impossible?

Quote from: Wendy on December 03, 2008, 01:12:37 PM

He did not. He had a question with three parts.

The OP claims to have a question about circles and squares.

Now he is arguing the definition of God with a bunch of atheists who don't give a shit.

Join us next week while Frankenstein's monster makes trouble in the kitchen!

He was using his question about circles and squares to set up a debate about how God can be called a god after becoming a man.

can god not do things that are impossible and out of reach of human understanding?

can god not do things that are impossible and out of reach of human understanding?

No, because he is imaginary.

Quote from: The One True Rat on December 03, 2008, 01:20:34 PM

can god not do things that are impossible and out of reach of human understanding?

No, because he is imaginary.

but what if i imagine that he can?

Quote from: Hara Taiki on December 03, 2008, 01:22:40 PM

Quote from: The One True Rat on December 03, 2008, 01:20:34 PM

can god not do things that are impossible and out of reach of human understanding?

No, because he is imaginary.

but what if i imagine that he can?

That doesn't have any effect on anything outside your own imagination.

Quote from: T.T. Monsieur on December 03, 2008, 01:15:28 PM

Quote from: Wendy on December 03, 2008, 01:12:37 PM

He did not. He had a question with three parts.

The OP claims to have a question about circles and squares.

Now he is arguing the definition of God with a bunch of atheists who don't give a shit.

Join us next week while Frankenstein's monster makes trouble in the kitchen!

He was using his question about circles and squares to set up a debate about how God can be called a god after becoming a man.

Yes, I know.

He was using his question about circles and squares to set up a debate about how God can be called a god after becoming a man.

Thanks for understanding the purpose of the question.

can god not do things that are impossible and out of reach of human understanding?

We human's have nature, animals have nature, God have nature thats why I asked my second question.

God can do the impossible we know that, but ask yourself this:

Can God turn himself to a Dog and still be called a God?

Can God "See-All" and still can't see a tree 500 Meters away?

Can God cease himself to exists?

Can God be immortal and kill himself?

God's nature, he don't do "Un-Godly" things

Same goes for Humans, Human's nature he needs breath, drink and eat. Humans would do acts of Human and God would do acts of "Almighty God"