Just after FE's take on this

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Just after FE's take on this
« on: September 21, 2008, 04:15:09 PM »
Just after FE's take on this

"Explanation: Here is what the Earth looks like during a solar eclipse. The shadow of the Moon can be seen darkening part of Earth. This shadow moved across the Earth at nearly 2000 kilometers per hour. Only observers near the center of the dark circle see a total solar eclipse - others see a partial eclipse where only part of the Sun appears blocked by the Moon. This spectacular picture of the 1999 August 11 solar eclipse was one of the last ever taken from the Mir space station, which was deorbited in a controlled re-entry in 2001. "

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040926.html

I'd be dissapointed in a "Photo Shop" blanket dissmissal.

Brett

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2008, 04:18:54 PM »
Shadow object blocked the sun.  Whats the problem again?

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2008, 10:06:54 PM »
Just after FE's take on this

"Explanation: Here is what the Earth looks like during a solar eclipse. The shadow of the Moon can be seen darkening part of Earth. This shadow moved across the Earth at nearly 2000 kilometers per hour. Only observers near the center of the dark circle see a total solar eclipse - others see a partial eclipse where only part of the Sun appears blocked by the Moon. This spectacular picture of the 1999 August 11 solar eclipse was one of the last ever taken from the Mir space station, which was deorbited in a controlled re-entry in 2001. "

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040926.html

I'd be dissapointed in a "Photo Shop" blanket dissmissal.

Brett

But photo shop is the only explanation they can give.  I've posted pictures and I get "You think that that picture is real?" or "Clearly a photo shop"  Its actually pretty funny at this point.  But I suppose when you really believe something, its hard to deny it even when the evidence is slapping you in the face like an abusive step-father.

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2008, 10:12:27 PM »
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Just after FE's take on this

"Explanation: Here is what the Earth looks like during a solar eclipse. The shadow of the Moon can be seen darkening part of Earth. This shadow moved across the Earth at nearly 2000 kilometers per hour. Only observers near the center of the dark circle see a total solar eclipse - others see a partial eclipse where only part of the Sun appears blocked by the Moon. This spectacular picture of the 1999 August 11 solar eclipse was one of the last ever taken from the Mir space station, which was deorbited in a controlled re-entry in 2001. "

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040926.html

I'd be dissapointed in a "Photo Shop" blanket dissmissal.

Brett

Why should we trust anything from NASA's website?

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2008, 10:18:38 PM »
Aw, Thomo's going to be so disappointed!  :(
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2008, 10:36:25 PM »
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Just after FE's take on this

"Explanation: Here is what the Earth looks like during a solar eclipse. The shadow of the Moon can be seen darkening part of Earth. This shadow moved across the Earth at nearly 2000 kilometers per hour. Only observers near the center of the dark circle see a total solar eclipse - others see a partial eclipse where only part of the Sun appears blocked by the Moon. This spectacular picture of the 1999 August 11 solar eclipse was one of the last ever taken from the Mir space station, which was deorbited in a controlled re-entry in 2001. "

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040926.html

I'd be dissapointed in a "Photo Shop" blanket dissmissal.

Brett

Why should we trust anything from NASA's website?

Why shouldn't we?  I haven't seen a single piece of evidence proving that NASA has faked any photos of the Earth.

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2008, 11:18:49 PM »
If the earth is flat, how can the photos be anything but fake?

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2008, 11:29:35 PM »
If the earth is flat, how can the photos be anything but fake?


Indeed. Fortunately the Earth is round, so the point is moot.
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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2008, 11:34:34 PM »
We disproved a round earth a while ago. Try to keep up.

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2008, 11:37:08 PM »
We disproved a round earth a while ago. Try to keep up.


I rather doubt that. Linkage?
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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2008, 12:19:51 AM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11211.0


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Q: "Why do the all the world Governments say the Earth is round?"

A: It's a conspiracy


Yay! Evidence at last. I'm finally convinced...  ::)
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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2008, 12:22:28 AM »
The evidence is all here. You can use the search function if you need to. It's at the top there.

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2008, 12:32:07 AM »
The evidence is all here. You can use the search function if you need to. It's at the top there.


Even with the help of the search function, sifting through the immense piles of rubbish on this forum to find something seems like a pretty pointless endeavor. Surely, if there were any kind of irrefutable evidence pro FE or contra RE, it would have been compiled and presented as evidence by now. The FAQ is, with all due respect, nothing but drivel.

If you have proof, present it.
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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2008, 12:39:00 AM »
The evidence is all here. You can use the search function if you need to. It's at the top there.
Even with the help of the search function, sifting through the immense piles of rubbish on this forum to find something seems like a pretty pointless endeavor. Surely, if there were any kind of irrefutable evidence pro FE or contra RE, it would have been compiled and presented as evidence by now.
A pointless endeavor? Finding out the truth is a pointless endeavor? I can see that you came here with an open mind and a desire to learn. ::)

The FAQ is, with all due respect, nothing but drivel.
I'll admit that it is outdated, but it's still better than anything RE has come up with.

If you have proof, present it.
You've got something at the side of your mouth there...it's the burden of proof...

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2008, 12:45:06 AM »
I originally came here to find out what proof the FES could provide to support their claims. So far, I have seen nothing but conjecture, conclusions drawn from unreasonable assumptions and circular logic.

Expecting someone to search the entire content of this forum in order to find some obscure posts that may support FET is unreasonable. If you have proof, why should I be expected to spend my time finding it? Why can't you present it?
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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2008, 12:52:40 AM »
The evidence is all here. You can use the search function if you need to. It's at the top there.

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2008, 12:57:27 AM »
Expecting someone to search the entire content of this forum in order to find some obscure posts that may support FET is unreasonable. If you have proof, why should I be expected to spend my time finding it? Why can't you present it?
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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2008, 03:31:14 AM »
The evidence is all here. You can use the search function if you need to. It's at the top there.

Expecting someone to search the entire content of this forum in order to find some obscure posts that may support FET is unreasonable. If you have proof, why should I be expected to spend my time finding it? Why can't you present it?

I propose a solution to this argument. Here's how it goes:

Oscar Wilde links to one piece of evidence that disproves RET and that has never been answered. It has to be a conclusive one, where factors like refraction can be quantified.

If RE'ers can't explain why he is wrong, his claim to have disporved RET may have merit.

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2008, 03:48:00 AM »
Or, how about not being lazy and just reading? The burden of proof is not on FET here - one of the axioms of the site is that the Earth is flat, so it has to be disproved in debate, not the other way around.
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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2008, 04:00:55 AM »
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I propose a solution to this argument. Here's how it goes:

Oscar Wilde links to one piece of evidence that disproves RET and that has never been answered. It has to be a conclusive one, where factors like refraction can be quantified.

Lots of proofs in the literature listed in my signature link.

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2008, 06:58:33 AM »
Too bad none of them are valid.  :-\
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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2008, 11:49:37 PM »
Too bad none of them are valid.  :-\

Why not? Did you look up and read the books I have listed in my signature link?

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2008, 01:19:57 AM »
I just watched the "movie", and I really can't believe you consider THAT a strong enough proof, there's only dialogues, and a drawing at the end I could also do. Tom, are you sure the books and everything else in your signature is not the same comical/ironical material?
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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2008, 01:39:42 AM »
I just watched the "movie", and I really can't believe you consider THAT a strong enough proof, there's only dialogues, and a drawing at the end I could also do. Tom, are you sure the books and everything else in your signature is not the same comical/ironical material?

Did I tell you to look at the 10 minute movie? No. I specifically said to read the books which go into FET with some depth.

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2008, 05:22:10 AM »
I just watched the "movie", and I really can't believe you consider THAT a strong enough proof, there's only dialogues, and a drawing at the end I could also do. Tom, are you sure the books and everything else in your signature is not the same comical/ironical material?

Did I tell you to look at the 10 minute movie? No. I specifically said to read the books which go into FET with some depth.

The books are fake

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2008, 06:22:55 AM »
I just watched the "movie", and I really can't believe you consider THAT a strong enough proof, there's only dialogues, and a drawing at the end I could also do. Tom, are you sure the books and everything else in your signature is not the same comical/ironical material?

Did I tell you to look at the 10 minute movie? No. I specifically said to read the books which go into FET with some depth.

Then why did you link to the movie if it does not support your position?  ???
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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2008, 06:42:12 AM »
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I propose a solution to this argument. Here's how it goes:

Oscar Wilde links to one piece of evidence that disproves RET and that has never been answered. It has to be a conclusive one, where factors like refraction can be quantified.

Lots of proofs in the literature listed in my signature link.

I have issue with the offline media. Specifically - Flat Earth 2007 - Photographs of the Cambridgeshire Fens
by Roger Coleman.

This is a photography exibition of the Cambridgeshire Fens which are flat due to being artificially drained of seawater. Is there no end to your nonsense Thomas?

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2008, 08:08:49 AM »
The evidence is all here. You can use the search function if you need to. It's at the top there.
Even with the help of the search function, sifting through the immense piles of rubbish on this forum to find something seems like a pretty pointless endeavor. Surely, if there were any kind of irrefutable evidence pro FE or contra RE, it would have been compiled and presented as evidence by now.
A pointless endeavor? Finding out the truth is a pointless endeavor? I can see that you came here with an open mind and a desire to learn. ::)

The FAQ is, with all due respect, nothing but drivel.
I'll admit that it is outdated, but it's still better than anything RE has come up with.

RE has sent satellites into orbit and taken pictures of the round earth.  There's plenty of evidence that RE has presented, but it doesn't matter because anybody can just point and say that something is faked or there is a conspiracy.  It's the perfect argument to be honest because one, you don't need any evidence to prove a conspiracy, and two, no matter how much evidence against a conspiracy the opposition offers, you cannot disprove it.

IMO RE has more credibility with their evidence because they don't rely on a conspiracy to refute the evidence of the opposition.

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Re: Just after FE's take on this
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2008, 11:02:49 AM »
The evidence is all here. You can use the search function if you need to. It's at the top there.
Even with the help of the search function, sifting through the immense piles of rubbish on this forum to find something seems like a pretty pointless endeavor. Surely, if there were any kind of irrefutable evidence pro FE or contra RE, it would have been compiled and presented as evidence by now.
A pointless endeavor? Finding out the truth is a pointless endeavor? I can see that you came here with an open mind and a desire to learn. ::)

The FAQ is, with all due respect, nothing but drivel.
I'll admit that it is outdated, but it's still better than anything RE has come up with.

RE has sent satellites into orbit and taken pictures of the round earth.  There's plenty of evidence that RE has presented, but it doesn't matter because anybody can just point and say that something is faked or there is a conspiracy.  It's the perfect argument to be honest because one, you don't need any evidence to prove a conspiracy, and two, no matter how much evidence against a conspiracy the opposition offers, you cannot disprove it.

IMO RE has more credibility with their evidence because they don't rely on a conspiracy to refute the evidence of the opposition.


Actually you do need evidence to prove a conspiracy exists, otherwise it is just a theory. Flat Earthers essentially try to argue the possibility of a conspiracy as proof of its existence - and since you can't prove them wrong (because it is impossible to prove a negative) you are left with two options:

1. Accept the conspiracy theory as a premise for discussion of FET, because no matter what you say, FE'ers will not back down from their conspiracy theory.
2. Leave the forum and live a happy life.

If you enjoy senseless but humorous arguments, stay.
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