Because it was my second day here. ...
It's no slur if it's fact.
Quote from: TheEngineer on March 23, 2008, 09:56:36 AMQuote from: sokarul on March 23, 2008, 09:41:36 AMWhile back then I seemed to use gravity and gravitation as the same, you difeined gravity in that thread. Since you used them interchangeably, explain how massless particles have no 'gravity'.They don't accelerate.
Quote from: sokarul on March 23, 2008, 09:41:36 AMWhile back then I seemed to use gravity and gravitation as the same, you difeined gravity in that thread. Since you used them interchangeably, explain how massless particles have no 'gravity'.
While back then I seemed to use gravity and gravitation as the same, you difeined gravity in that thread.
Quote from: sokarul on March 23, 2008, 01:32:53 PMQuote from: TheEngineer on March 23, 2008, 09:56:36 AMQuote from: sokarul on March 23, 2008, 09:41:36 AMWhile back then I seemed to use gravity and gravitation as the same, you difeined gravity in that thread. Since you used them interchangeably, explain how massless particles have no 'gravity'.They don't accelerate. But you posted this three days ago. So, you were uneducated two days after you joined, and you are still uneducated today? We all knew that already.
Quote from: sokarul on March 23, 2008, 01:32:53 PMQuote from: TheEngineer on March 23, 2008, 09:56:36 AMQuote from: sokarul on March 23, 2008, 09:41:36 AMWhile back then I seemed to use gravity and gravitation as the same, you difeined gravity in that thread. Since you used them interchangeably, explain how massless particles have no 'gravity'.They don't accelerate.
The question I want answered is:Why does a photon not have a gravitational field?Which I have asked probably fifteen times now. You should try out for the football team, you are so good at dodging.
And I answered it
Quote from: sokarul on March 26, 2008, 10:31:56 PMAnd I answered itWith:Quote from: sokarul on March 26, 2008, 12:20:18 AMBecause it was my second day here. ...So, what does you only being on the forums for two days have to do with your claim that photons don't have a gravitational field? Was it just discovered by physicists, on the third day you were here, that photons do have a gravitational field?
You should try out for the football team, you are so good at dodging.
Quote from: TheEngineer on March 26, 2008, 10:30:01 PMYou should try out for the football team, you are so good at dodging.
We're all jealous of Raist.
Now I ask you, where did I say photons don't have a gravitational field recently?
But you posted this three days ago. So, you were uneducated two days after you joined, and you are still uneducated today? We all knew that already.
Quote from: sokarul on March 23, 2008, 01:32:53 PMQuote from: TheEngineer on March 23, 2008, 09:56:36 AMQuote from: sokarul on March 23, 2008, 09:41:36 AMWhile back then I seemed to use gravity and gravitation as the same, you difeined gravity in that thread. Since you used them interchangeably, explain how massless particles have no 'gravity'.They don't accelerate. This was your explanation as to why massless particles have no 'gravity'. This was just a few days ago. So, explain please, why they don't.
First I was using your definition of gravity.
Second, massless particles are moving at the speed of light, they don't accelerate or deaccelerate.
Quote from: sokarul on March 28, 2008, 01:52:57 PMFirst I was using your definition of gravity. Nice try, but no you were not.
Quote from: TheEngineer on March 28, 2008, 03:20:25 PMQuote from: sokarul on March 28, 2008, 01:52:57 PMFirst I was using your definition of gravity. Nice try, but no you were not.No, actually I was. Thats why you said to use my definition of gravity.
spacetime is curved by gravity, but it curves down not up. Thats why you fall off a cliff not up it.
Quote from: sokarul on March 28, 2008, 11:24:16 PMQuote from: TheEngineer on March 28, 2008, 03:20:25 PMQuote from: sokarul on March 28, 2008, 01:52:57 PMFirst I was using your definition of gravity. Nice try, but no you were not.No, actually I was. Thats why you said to use my definition of gravity. Like I said, nice try, but no, you were not:Quote from: sokarul on March 03, 2007, 01:17:19 PMspacetime is curved by gravity, but it curves down not up. Thats why you fall off a cliff not up it.
Quote from: sokarul on March 23, 2008, 01:32:53 PMThey don't accelerate. What does that have to do with them producing a gravitational field?
They don't accelerate.
I didn't know you could read my mind.
Light doesn't accelerate. You yourself said that had nothing to do with gravitation. Quote from: TheEngineer on March 23, 2008, 01:38:33 PMQuote from: sokarul on March 23, 2008, 01:32:53 PMThey don't accelerate. What does that have to do with them producing a gravitational field?
Quote from: sokarul on March 29, 2008, 06:31:06 AMI didn't know you could read my mind.I don't have to read your mind, I've read your posts. You said gravity is the curvature of spacetime, and massless particles do not have gravity since they have no mass. QuoteLight doesn't accelerate. You yourself said that had nothing to do with gravitation. Quote from: TheEngineer on March 23, 2008, 01:38:33 PMQuote from: sokarul on March 23, 2008, 01:32:53 PMThey don't accelerate. What does that have to do with them producing a gravitational field?Right. What does that have to do with them producing a gravitational field?
You said gravity is the curvature of spacetime, and massless particles do not have gravity since they have no mass.
I'm still waiting for you to back up your original statement, like you claimed you could.
Quote from: Franky FixYou'll all agree with me when I say the personal GPS devices are not programmed to give you wrong numbers when you are flying on a certain route, the system on the plane itself seems possible, but myPocketPC lying as well just is a step too far.Using a GPS system onboard an aircraft in flight is prohibited at all times. The use of anything that recieves or transmits a radio signal is prohibited... could that be part of the big cover up?
You'll all agree with me when I say the personal GPS devices are not programmed to give you wrong numbers when you are flying on a certain route, the system on the plane itself seems possible, but myPocketPC lying as well just is a step too far.
Quote from: TheEngineer on March 29, 2008, 07:31:50 AMI'm still waiting for you to back up your original statement, like you claimed you could.Read the thread.
Speaking of backing up posts.
Airlines which OFFICIALLY DO NOT APPROVE the use of GPS receivers at ANY time during flight.(*) Individual Pilots may allow GPS use. (It never hurts to ask the pilot on any flight. Oftentimes, cabin attendants say NO automatically. If the cabin attendant says "no" respectfully ask them to make your request to the pilot.) * Alaska Airlines (as of 04/01, Yep, they changed AGAIN) * Air Tran * America West Airlines * American Airlines * Britannia Airlines * Continental Airlines (as of March 2005, changed AGAIN!) * El Al Airlines (Israel) * Hawaiian Airlines(*) * Horizon Airlines(*) * Iberia Airlines(*) * Lufthansa Airlines * Mexicana airlines * Midway Express * Monarch Airlines * Ryanair (Irish) (as of January 2008) * SouthWest Airlines (as of November 2007) * Spirit Airlines * US Airways (was US Air) (as of December 2007) * Varig Airlines * Virgin Airlines (As of March 2007)
Quote from: sokarul on March 29, 2008, 07:58:37 AMQuote from: TheEngineer on March 29, 2008, 07:31:50 AMI'm still waiting for you to back up your original statement, like you claimed you could.Read the thread. I have. I've seen just a bunch of flip flopping.
I made no such claim here.
But here you go, anyway:QuoteAirlines which OFFICIALLY DO NOT APPROVE the use of GPS receivers at ANY time during flight.(*) Individual Pilots may allow GPS use. (It never hurts to ask the pilot on any flight. Oftentimes, cabin attendants say NO automatically. If the cabin attendant says "no" respectfully ask them to make your request to the pilot.) * Alaska Airlines (as of 04/01, Yep, they changed AGAIN) * Air Tran * America West Airlines * American Airlines * Britannia Airlines * Continental Airlines (as of March 2005, changed AGAIN!) * El Al Airlines (Israel) * Hawaiian Airlines(*) * Horizon Airlines(*) * Iberia Airlines(*) * Lufthansa Airlines * Mexicana airlines * Midway Express * Monarch Airlines * Ryanair (Irish) (as of January 2008) * SouthWest Airlines (as of November 2007) * Spirit Airlines * US Airways (was US Air) (as of December 2007) * Varig Airlines * Virgin Airlines (As of March 2007)
I have not flip flopped. You just cannot read.
QuoteI made no such claim here.Please post in the right thread. You must not of posted the above statement in the right thread as you anyone can follow the link and find where you posted it.
This does clear some up as I was able to use A GPS on the last flight I took. The safety manual even said so.