Tides

In the Round Earth model the tides are caused by the slight gravitational pull of the moon which in turn makes predicting them easy.  In the Flat Earth model however they are caused by the slight wobble of the earth.  Why are they so predictable if the earth is just wobbling?

Wobbling flat Earth. However, since the USA accelerates the earth from beneath, and there is no external gravity, the water would have nothing to make it "run" to the lower side.
I hate to say it, but FAIL.

I'd imagine the movements of the FE are caused by the elephants and the turtle having massive spasms.

Wobbling flat Earth. However, since the USA accelerates the earth from beneath, and there is no external gravity, the water would have nothing to make it "run" to the lower side.
I hate to say it, but FAIL.

I'm finding it hard to believe that the UA can accelerate the Earth and the atmosphere, yet not humans.

I was thinking about it this way. take a bucket with water in it and swing it around. the bucket is accelerating which causes the water to be higher on the rims than in the center. the atmosphere should act like the water would in an FET due to this simple act. if its different, then isnt that going against everything in nature?

and whether ornot I have witnessed it doesnt matter, because the effect exist. which you arent denying

Quote from: Jenova Cell on November 08, 2007, 07:33:22 AM

and whether ornot I have witnessed it doesnt matter, because the effect exist. which you arent denying

I am denying it happens because of the way you say it does.  I say it is due to surface tension, you say it is due to acceleration.

Show me how it is caused by an upwards or downwards acceleration.

Show me how it is caused by an upwards or downwards acceleration.

it's not either, in fact, it's an angular acceleration.

The bucket is spinning in an arc of a certain radius.  The surface of the water will settle to this radius (minus the depth of the water), because acceleration is constant at any point in the arc.  (inward acceleration is less at smaller radii, more at larger radii).

Quote from: Moon squirter on November 08, 2007, 08:05:08 AM

The bucket is spinning in an arc of a certain radius.  The surface of the water will settle to this radius (minus the depth of the water), because acceleration is constant at any point in the arc.  (inward acceleration is less at smaller radii, more at larger radii).

False. In circular motion, and since velocity is a vector, the direction of velocity is always changing. The change in direction is more rapid near the centre of the circle due to the smaller radius. Thus, the rate in change of velocity is faster.

a = v^2
       r

Thus, there is greater acceleration near the center (smaller radii).

Quote from: Moon squirter on November 08, 2007, 08:05:08 AM

The bucket is spinning in an arc of a certain radius.  The surface of the water will settle to this radius (minus the depth of the water), because acceleration is constant at any point in the arc.  (inward acceleration is less at smaller radii, more at larger radii).

False. In circular motion, and since velocity is a vector, the direction of velocity is always changing. The change in direction is more rapid near the center of the circle due to the smaller radii. Thus, the rate of change in velocity is faster.

a = v^2
       r

Thus, there is greater acceleration near the centre (smaller radii).

Quote from: Jack- on November 08, 2007, 10:11:14 AM

Quote from: Moon squirter on November 08, 2007, 08:05:08 AM

The bucket is spinning in an arc of a certain radius.  The surface of the water will settle to this radius (minus the depth of the water), because acceleration is constant at any point in the arc.  (inward acceleration is less at smaller radii, more at larger radii).

False. In circular motion, and since velocity is a vector, the direction of velocity is always changing. The change in direction is more rapid near the center of the circle due to the smaller radii. Thus, the rate of change in velocity is faster.

a = v^2
       r

Thus, there is greater acceleration near the centre (smaller radii).

Wrong.  Centripetal acceleration (inward acceleration) has the formula a = ω²r.  (ω is angular velolcity).  Therefore for a constant angular velocity (in the case of the bucket), a is proportional to r.

And Engineer if the earth is infinite how can it wobble?  Not saying that you believe that but how would that work?