Eclipses, Moon, Sun

If Lunar Eclipses are caused by the (Round) Earth moving between the Sun and Moon, how do Lunar eclipses sometimes occur with the Sun still in the sky?

they don't

If Lunar Eclipses are caused by the (Round) Earth moving between the Sun and Moon, how do Lunar eclipses sometimes occur with the Sun still in the sky?

the sun is always in the sky somewhere, just like the moon is always in the sky somewhere.

I'm not sure what the question is here; sometimes the moon is out during the day.

There was one on the July 17th 1590, one on June 16th 1666, another on May 26th 1668, another on the 20th of September 1717, another on the 20th of April 1837. There was one on the 17th of January 1870.

They happen and have been recorded repeatedly throughout history.

I'm not sure what the question is here; sometimes the moon is out during the day.

he is saying eclipses sometime happen during the day. i sure hope he don't mean

Quote from: Dogplatter on November 07, 2007, 11:32:52 AM

If Lunar Eclipses are caused by the (Round) Earth moving between the Sun and Moon, how do Lunar eclipses sometimes occur with the Sun still in the sky?

the sun is always in the sky somewhere, just like the moon is always in the sky somewhere.

Do you understand how Lunar Eclipses are purported to work by globularist science? The Earth is meant to come between the Sun and Moon.

Quote from: Roundy has been sacked on November 07, 2007, 11:39:58 AM

I'm not sure what the question is here; sometimes the moon is out during the day.

he is saying eclipses sometime happen during the day. i sure hope he don't mean

That isn't a Lunar eclipse.

Quote from: semperround on November 07, 2007, 11:41:50 AM

Quote from: Roundy has been sacked on November 07, 2007, 11:39:58 AM

I'm not sure what the question is here; sometimes the moon is out during the day.

he is saying eclipses sometime happen during the day. i sure hope he don't mean

That isn't a Lunar eclipse.

good, you had me worried for a second.

good, you had me worried for a second.

You mean you're not worried now? You've yet to explain how a lunar eclipse could occur during daylight, and I don't think you're going to.

they don't

i quote myself.

Quote from: semperround on November 07, 2007, 11:35:21 AM

they don't

i quote myself.

The fingers-in-ears approach doesn't make for a very convincing argument. These occurances happen and have been documented.

unless maybe you see photos like this:

note that the closest you would get to a daytime viewing of a lunar eclipse would be during the twilight of the dawn or dusk hours.

That picture doesn't seem to make sense in the context of this argument. What's it even supposed to depict?

we're arguing
the photo depicts the path of a lunar eclipse through the sky, don't ask me how it's done, but clearly the first few photos where taken during the twilight hours. the last taken sometime later in the night.

we're arguing
the photo depicts the path of a lunar eclipse through the sky, don't ask me how it's done, but clearly the first few photos where taken during the twilight hours. the last taken sometime later in the night.

Alright. How, when the Sun is in the sky at all, can the Earth obscure its light and prevent it reaching the moon?

maybe this pic is eaisier to understand.

Quote from: semperround on November 07, 2007, 12:05:23 PM

we're arguing
the photo depicts the path of a lunar eclipse through the sky, don't ask me how it's done, but clearly the first few photos where taken during the twilight hours. the last taken sometime later in the night.

Alright. How, when the Sun is in the sky at all, can the Earth obscure its light and prevent it reaching the moon?

it's a refraction/aether/perspective thing. You know the idea...

maybe this pic is eaisier to understand.

Yeah. That's a partial eclipse, which could conceivably be spun as the Earth being partly in the way of the Sun's light with the Moon low on the (RE) horizon. What about total eclipses?

Quote from: semperround on November 07, 2007, 12:05:23 PM

we're arguing
the photo depicts the path of a lunar eclipse through the sky, don't ask me how it's done, but clearly the first few photos where taken during the twilight hours. the last taken sometime later in the night.

Alright. How, when the Sun is in the sky at all, can the Earth obscure its light and prevent it reaching the moon?

it depends where you are when the eclipse begins. if it so happens that the moon crosses into the the earth's shadow just as the sun sets, then you will see a lunar eclipse with a bit of sunlight still lighting the sky. as for the sun and an eclipsed moon being in the sky at the same time, not likely. i would say the moon half above the horizon, the sun half below the horizon is the closest that scenario will ever come to.

How are these reported cases found to be reliable? Sources?
--- It sounds like hogwash to convince people of FE. 

http://www.moonconnection.com/lunar_vs_solar.phtml

How are a lunar eclipse and solar eclipse different?

A lunar eclipse occurs at night and a solar eclipse occurs during the day. There are only certain times when either of them can occur. A lunar eclipse can only occur when the moon is directly opposite the Sun in the sky — a full moon. Even though there is a full moon each month, obviously a lunar eclipse does not occur on a monthly basis because the Sun isn't exactly in line with the Earth and the moon. The moon's orbit is actually tilted 5 degrees more than that of the Earth; otherwise, we would see a lunar eclipse each month.

The reason that we see a lunar eclipse more readily than we see a solar eclipse has to do with the Earth's shadow. The Earth casts a much larger shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse than the moon casts on the Sun in a solar eclipse. It is quite safe to watch a lunar eclipse with the naked eye, while watching a solar eclipse without eyewear protection can seriously damage your eyesight. You can use a telescope to get a clearer view of the moon during an eclipse and really see what is happening.

A solar eclipse has always had a more profound effect on humans than a lunar eclipse. This is probably because of the importance of the Sun to all life on Earth. In ancient China, a solar eclipse was thought to be the dragon coming to eat the Sun. The effect that an eclipse has on all life on Earth is of particular interest to scientists. They eagerly await a solar eclipse because it helps them to gather more knowledge about the Sun and its position with respect to Earth.

Where's your source that says lunar eclipses do occur during the day, Dogplatter? 

Now now. Let's not pick on him. He probably feels horrible enough just for being wrong. 

19th Century geographer and astronomer McCulloch recorded two incidences, one in his own lifetime (1837) and one in 1717. I can't profess to know what his source was for the latter - unsurprisingly I never met the guy. The Daily Telegraph reported a daytime lunar eclipse on July 16th, 1870 - a look at newspaper archives will verify this for you.

link?

19th Century geographer and astronomer McCulloch recorded two incidences, one in his own lifetime (1837) and one in 1717. I can't profess to know what his source was for the latter - unsurprisingly I never met the guy. The Daily Telegraph reported a daytime lunar eclipse on July 16th, 1870 - a look at newspaper archives will verify this for you.

So you can't provide a verifiable source?

How is that not verifiable? Because you can't google it?

Dogplatter. take a flashlight (Sun), and a basketball (Earth), and a baseball (moon). Now hold the flashlight so its opposite the baseball and the basketball. Now slowly raise the flashlight and baseball. low and behold! part of the baseball is lit up AND covered by the basketball. Note that people in the "top" part of the basketball could see both items! I know a normal aviator like yourself could never have figured this out on your own, so I hope this helped. oh, and I'm not proving an eclipse during daylight, I'm showing you how the sun and moon can be seen in the sky at the same time (like in all those pictures).   

How is that not verifiable? Because you can't google it?

Yeah! 

Quote from: Username on November 07, 2007, 07:43:21 PM

How is that not verifiable? Because you can't google it?

Yeah! 

;-)