Finding the ice wall

Everyone seems afraid of this subject. 

But I shall propose it again.

Why not?

It is easy to make theories, and claim every NASA photograph ever taken is faked, but at some point we must make an effort to see the truth with our own eyes. Only then will we be able to convince the rest of the world.

Perhaps an expedition south by sea from, say, Australia? I know you will tell me "The conspiracy will get you," but that is not sufficient to dissuade me from making a discovery. I intend to call their bluff, and see if they are really as powerful as everyone here baselessly assumes they are.

I am tired of guessing. Why should we not judge the matter with our own eyes? This is the only logical conclusion that can be reached. A voyage of discovery, to prove ourselves right or wrong once and for all.

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It won't work.  Australia doesn't exist.  It's part of the conspiracy!   

LOL - Australia exists, the Icewall doesn't, no expedition is necessary.

But I'd still go if Tom Bishop was there - I'd like to see him making up lame excuses for everything, "Dr Samuel Birley Rowbotham" this, and "the tenets of Snell's law" that... it would be such a great holiday.

It is an unfortunate possibility that the Ice Wall is beyond the outermost extent of the Sun's path of light, meaning we might never see its grandeur except by torchlight.

But TomB said that it gets nearer and nearer to absolute zero the further out you go. How are you going to go "by torch light" to find this presumed wall when your frozen to death in an endless tundra?

But TomB said that it gets nearer and nearer to absolute zero the further out you go. How are you going to go "by torch light" to find this presumed wall when your frozen to death in an endless tundra?

I disagree with Tom. Bear in mind that Tom (correct me if I'm wrong) hold the Earth to be of infinite extent. The model I subscribe to suggests that no part of Antarctica would necessarily be at "absolute zero".

fair enough. not trying to start anyting, but have you ever seen the ice wall?

Assuming the answer is no (from two past ago), then how do you know its true? and if you dont know its true and its just speculation, how can you say that things the REers believe is false due to things we believe?

Assuming the answer is no (from two past ago), then how do you know its true? and if you dont know its true and its just speculation, how can you say that things the REers believe is false due to things we believe?

Well have you ever been to space? Both sides can band back and force the "you haven't personally verified this" argument until we're blue in the face.

It is an unfortunate possibility that the Ice Wall is beyond the outermost extent of the Sun's path of light, meaning we might never see its grandeur except by torchlight.

Well there we go. If we keep travelling south, RE predicts that in December we will get 24 hours of daylight during the solstice, and FE says that the icewall will always be dark. We could all go south and find out the truth this december!!!
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Quote from: Dogplatter on November 07, 2007, 10:58:59 AM

It is an unfortunate possibility that the Ice Wall is beyond the outermost extent of the Sun's path of light, meaning we might never see its grandeur except by torchlight.

Well there we go. If we keep travelling south, RE predicts that in December we will get 24 hours of daylight during the solstice, and FE says that the icewall will always be dark. We could all go south and find out the truth this december!!!
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Pretty hard to go trekking a few hundred miles into Anatarctica without freezing to death or being offed by the Con.

Quote from: Agent Z on November 07, 2007, 11:43:07 AM

Quote from: Dogplatter on November 07, 2007, 10:58:59 AM

It is an unfortunate possibility that the Ice Wall is beyond the outermost extent of the Sun's path of light, meaning we might never see its grandeur except by torchlight.

Well there we go. If we keep travelling south, RE predicts that in December we will get 24 hours of daylight during the solstice, and FE says that the icewall will always be dark. We could all go south and find out the truth this december!!!
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Pretty hard to go trekking a few hundred miles into Anatarctica without freezing to death or being offed by the Con.

not any harder than going to the summit of everest.

not any harder than going to the summit of everest.

Everest isn't hundreds of miles long/tall, there isn't a military presence on Everest, and Everest is, across its entirety, subjected to the rays of the Sun during daytime.

Quote from: semperround on November 07, 2007, 11:46:27 AM

not any harder than going to the summit of everest.

Everest isn't hundreds of miles long/tall, there isn't a military presence on Everest, and Everest is, across its entirety, subjected to the rays of the Sun during daytime.

the ice wall is hundreds of miles tall

the ice wall is hundreds of miles tall

No, it's hundreds of miles beyond the coast of Antarctica. Stop trying to twist my words.

Quote from: semperround on November 07, 2007, 11:46:27 AM

not any harder than going to the summit of everest.

Everest isn't hundreds of miles long/tall, there isn't a military presence on Everest, and Everest is, across its entirety, subjected to the rays of the Sun during daytime.

What the hell? military presence on something that doesn't exist?

Quote from: Agent Z on November 07, 2007, 11:43:07 AM

Quote from: Dogplatter on November 07, 2007, 10:58:59 AM

It is an unfortunate possibility that the Ice Wall is beyond the outermost extent of the Sun's path of light, meaning we might never see its grandeur except by torchlight.

Well there we go. If we keep travelling south, RE predicts that in December we will get 24 hours of daylight during the solstice, and FE says that the icewall will always be dark. We could all go south and find out the truth this december!!!
`

Pretty hard to go trekking a few hundred miles into Anatarctica without freezing to death or being offed by the Con

You can buy gear for Antarctic expeditions.
I wouldn't worry about the Con, they can't murder random people, especially if it can be traced back to them. And obviously before we left, we would let everyone know what we were doing, and thus they would know if we didn't return, the Con would be behind it.

Everest isn't hundreds of miles long/tall, there isn't a military presence on Everest, and Everest is, across its entirety, subjected to the rays of the Sun during daytime.

you are saying that you are not comparing the ice wall to everest with this statment?

Quote from: Dogplatter on November 07, 2007, 11:44:23 AM

Quote from: Agent Z on November 07, 2007, 11:43:07 AM

Quote from: Dogplatter on November 07, 2007, 10:58:59 AM

It is an unfortunate possibility that the Ice Wall is beyond the outermost extent of the Sun's path of light, meaning we might never see its grandeur except by torchlight.

Well there we go. If we keep travelling south, RE predicts that in December we will get 24 hours of daylight during the solstice, and FE says that the icewall will always be dark. We could all go south and find out the truth this december!!!
`

Pretty hard to go trekking a few hundred miles into Anatarctica without freezing to death or being offed by the Con

You can buy gear for Antarctic expeditions.
I wouldn't worry about the Con, they can't murder random people, especially if it can be traced back to them. And obviously before we left, we would let everyone know what we were doing, and thus they would know if we didn't return, the Con would be behind it.

Exactly.

With enough documentation of this effort (perhaps alerting the media and keeping in contact with the mainland) the conspiracy won't be able to touch us without exposing themselves.

Yeah, because the media would take that seriously.

With enough documentation of this effort (perhaps alerting the media and keeping in contact with the mainland) the conspiracy won't be able to touch us without exposing themselves.

It'd be great, but we don't have the resources. I can't speak for other FEers, but the FE chapter which I run currently has a budget based pretty much entirely on newsletter subscriptions and very low-scale merch sales, and we can only just afford to keep these enterprises going. An Antarctic expedition of this magnitude (some sort of heavy-duty vehicle would be required, potentially months of supplies, transport to Antarctic coast) would cost thousands if not tens of thousands of pounds.

The Conspiracy doesn't have to do jack - we can't even get to Antarctica in the first place because we're dirt poor.

Quote from: Flapjack on November 07, 2007, 12:10:54 PM

With enough documentation of this effort (perhaps alerting the media and keeping in contact with the mainland) the conspiracy won't be able to touch us without exposing themselves.

It'd be great, but we don't have the resources. I can't speak for other FEers, but the FE chapter which I run currently has a budget based pretty much entirely on newsletter subscriptions and very low-scale merch sales, and we can only just afford to keep these enterprises going. An Antarctic expedition of this magnitude (some sort of heavy-duty vehicle would be required, potentially months of supplies, transport to Antarctic coast) would cost thousands if not tens of thousands of pounds.

The Conspiracy doesn't have to do jack - we can't even get to Antarctica in the first place because we're dirt poor.

dirt poor? maybe you should consider getting a better paying job

Dogplatter. you said earlier that I havent seen space there for how do I know it exist, blah blah. except I have seen space. its noght out. I see stars in a black void. thats what most people consider space. and while I havent been there, none of us are disputing the fact that there is a "space". however, we are arguing that there is no icewall

Quote from: Flapjack on November 07, 2007, 12:10:54 PM

With enough documentation of this effort (perhaps alerting the media and keeping in contact with the mainland) the conspiracy won't be able to touch us without exposing themselves.

It'd be great, but we don't have the resources. I can't speak for other FEers, but the FE chapter which I run currently has a budget based pretty much entirely on newsletter subscriptions and very low-scale merch sales, and we can only just afford to keep these enterprises going. An Antarctic expedition of this magnitude (some sort of heavy-duty vehicle would be required, potentially months of supplies, transport to Antarctic coast) would cost thousands if not tens of thousands of pounds.

The Conspiracy doesn't have to do jack - we can't even get to Antarctica in the first place because we're dirt poor.

According to the FE FAQ, Antarctica does not exist. Our objective would be to find the general area where Antarctica is believed to be, but where the ice wall is instead.

The Conspiracy doesn't have to do jack - we can't even get to Antarctica in the first place because we're dirt poor.

So in the mean time, we'll all just come back to this forum and argue about shit that we can't prove.

Exactly!!!

'The Book' chronicles a fictitious journey to the ice wall...



sorry, gotta plug it whenever this topic comes up ^_^

Dogplatter. you said earlier that I havent seen space there for how do I know it exist, blah blah. except I have seen space. its noght out. I see stars in a black void. thats what most people consider space. and while I havent been there, none of us are disputing the fact that there is a "space". however, we are arguing that there is no icewall

When I look into my cellar I also see a black void. Does that mean that my cellar is a weightless vacuum?

Quote from: Jenova Cell on November 07, 2007, 07:50:07 PM

Dogplatter. you said earlier that I havent seen space there for how do I know it exist, blah blah. except I have seen space. its noght out. I see stars in a black void. thats what most people consider space. and while I havent been there, none of us are disputing the fact that there is a "space". however, we are arguing that there is no icewall

When I look into my cellar I also see a black void. Does that mean that my cellar is a weightless vacuum?

until you turn the light on, yes.