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Title: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rvlvr on June 07, 2019, 12:51:30 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48560874

Nasa is to allow tourists to visit the International Space Station from 2020, priced at $35,000 (£27,500) per night.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: wise on June 07, 2019, 12:55:53 PM
When I first read the news, I have laughed boisterously. What's NASA gonna do, like a horror toy at an amusement park? you get on the train and you think you're in a real environment, but it's all fiction.  :)
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Curiouser and Curiouser on June 07, 2019, 12:57:57 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48560874

Nasa is to allow tourists to visit the International Space Station from 2020, priced at $35,000 (£27,500) per night.

The cost to stay is trivial compared to the taxi fare to get there.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: wise on June 07, 2019, 01:00:11 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48560874

Nasa is to allow tourists to visit the International Space Station from 2020, priced at $35,000 (£27,500) per night.

The cost to stay is trivial compared to the taxi fare to get there.

Think its being just 50 kms altitude zero gravity plane then taxi fare becomes unimportant. With this, NASA has proved ISS's not being orbit. Now they will think on this, they will correct it.  ;)
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Ozymandias74 on June 07, 2019, 01:09:10 PM
I would like to see a crowdfunded campaign to get someone famous in the flat earth community to hitch a ride to the ISS and document their adventure.   Only problem is that most people famous in the FE community do not want to do something like this.   Because if it turns out to be real then their entire believe system is shattered.  Of course they claim its fake, but they cant actually go through the trouble of proving its fake.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: wise on June 07, 2019, 01:14:32 PM
None of flat earthers will try it because it's not possible to take this funny claim seriously.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rvlvr on June 07, 2019, 01:28:10 PM
None of flat earthers will try it because it's not possible to take this funny claim seriously.
Why is it funny?
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: wise on June 07, 2019, 01:49:11 PM
None of flat earthers will try it because it's not possible to take this funny claim seriously.
Why is it funny?

Is not it funny? Think on it, ISS, exist, and touristic travels to there. Ahahahah, get it rvlvr? travel, ISS, rvlvr. ahahaha!  ;D
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Unconvinced on June 07, 2019, 02:06:42 PM
I would like to see a crowdfunded campaign to get someone famous in the flat earth community to hitch a ride to the ISS and document their adventure.   Only problem is that most people famous in the FE community do not want to do something like this.   Because if it turns out to be real then their entire believe system is shattered.  Of course they claim its fake, but they cant actually go through the trouble of proving its fake.

I don’t know.  We might see one or two of these YouTube charlatans asking for donations for this.  They’ll probably come up with some excuse why they can’t go through with it though.

I certainly wouldn’t give them any money for it, anyway.

Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rabinoz on June 07, 2019, 02:23:14 PM
I would like to see a crowdfunded campaign to get someone famous in the flat earth community to hitch a ride to the ISS and document their adventure.   Only problem is that most people famous in the FE community do not want to do something like this.   Because if it turns out to be real then their entire believe system is shattered.  Of course they claim its fake, but they cant actually go through the trouble of proving its fake.
The only differences getting "someone famous in the flat earth community to hitch a ride to the ISS" would make is possibly one less famous person in the flat earth community and that person being viciously attacked as a shill.

A visit to the South Pole with some means to verify where they were (a sextant for sun angles would do) would be enough to kill off the "AEP map".
But when that was suggested to Mark Sargent he simply says that is not possible because it is prohibited, which is a total lie.

So I agree with, "Of course they claim its fake, but" it's more like Flat Earthers being unwilling to take these obvious steps because most are afraid that they'll be proven wrong.
This is because, as you say, "because if it turns out to be real then their entire belief system is shattered".

Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 07, 2019, 09:42:46 PM
I would say, "let's send rab".

But the ISS probably has WiFi.  :(





        ;D






Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rvlvr on June 07, 2019, 10:30:36 PM
But do they have a navy?
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rabinoz on June 07, 2019, 10:44:21 PM
I would say, "let's send rab".

But the ISS probably has WiFi.  :(
        ;D
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Networking to the ISS is provided via a satellite network, at a speed of around 10mbps down and 3mbps up. However, most of that is allocated for use by NASA's private network. Everything from monitoring vital information to providing live imagery of the Earth below. NASA does allow internet access, but it's very slow.
And I'm used to at least 25Mbps download and 5Mbps upload on cable and up 40Mbps and 30Mbps on mobile (cellphone).
Not great but far better than on the ISS.

In any case, I so gullible thst I already believe that the photos from the ISS are genuine so maybe send Tom Bishop or Wise.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: sceptimatic on June 07, 2019, 10:49:35 PM
Seems cheap, right?
What about all the training needed to ready someone for a so called mission, which is what they call it, tourist or not.
What about the cost of the specially fitted space suits they apparently have to have. Has that been downgraded to a set of overalls and a motorbike helmet or something?

What about the poundage cost of getting a person up to the so called space station.
Wasn't it something like $10,000 per kilo or something, or if not, what was it we were told?

I do believe they will have tourists going to the space station but the tourists will be actors and the space station will be part of a ongoing box set series documenting each and every actor and all the CGI accompanying their act.

PFFFFFFFFFT. :P
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rvlvr on June 07, 2019, 11:13:42 PM
Just because you do not have the money to fly there does not mean everyone who does is an actor.

Pretty awesome train of thought you got going there.

Does the fact space flight is becoming more common scare you?
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: sceptimatic on June 07, 2019, 11:20:54 PM
£27,500 per night and I'm fairly sure they don't operate a shuttle service every day, so the £27,500 per night equates to how much for how many nights and is it Earth nights or space station nights, because 16 times a day means 16 nights a day....sort of fictional thing, if you get it.

But anyway the issue still stands and you didn't address any of it except to attack a strawman, sort of thing.
Anyway, at least they'll get to keep their tailor made space suits, won't they?
How much do they cost?

They can cost 80 billion trillion bazillion to be fair, because the actors can go along with any price and any issue, plus and time limit, all in the name of Billy Bull for the public to swallow and ask for seconds.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: sceptimatic on June 07, 2019, 11:25:05 PM


Does the fact space flight is becoming more common scare you?
Didn't see this edit.

Space flight becoming more common does not scare me. There is no space flights and never has been, because the space we're told about, does not exist.
What the reality is, is anyone's guess and something most of us are not privy to.

This is why we're all brainwashed to all hell by the media and that TV screen, etc.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rvlvr on June 07, 2019, 11:27:02 PM
Space flight becoming more common does not scare me. There is no space flights and never has been, because the space we're told about, does not exist.
What the reality is, is anyone's guess and something most of us are not privy to.

This is why we're all brainwashed to all hell by the media and that TV screen, etc.
Fair enough!
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Stash on June 07, 2019, 11:41:47 PM
There is no space flights and never has been, because the space we're told about, does not exist.
What the reality is, is anyone's guess and something most of us are not privy to.

Aren't these two statements contradictory?
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 07, 2019, 11:44:38 PM

Pretty awesome train of thought you got going there.

Spaceship of thought. Just sayin'   ;)


Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rvlvr on June 07, 2019, 11:47:00 PM

Pretty awesome train of thought you got going there.

Spaceship of thought. Just sayin'   ;)
True, true.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rvlvr on June 07, 2019, 11:53:16 PM
What is the reason there is more happening in space nowadays? Does Nasa need to cover the flatness more as the age of awakening is upon us? Is SpaceX and this ISS hoax and all such nonsense just their last desperate attempt to cloud the minds of the people?
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: sceptimatic on June 08, 2019, 12:19:38 AM
There is no space flights and never has been, because the space we're told about, does not exist.
What the reality is, is anyone's guess and something most of us are not privy to.

Aren't these two statements contradictory?
Nope.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: sceptimatic on June 08, 2019, 12:34:25 AM
What is the reason there is more happening in space nowadays? Does Nasa need to cover the flatness more as the age of awakening is upon us? Is SpaceX and this ISS hoax and all such nonsense just their last desperate attempt to cloud the minds of the people?
Like I said before, it's anyone's guess.
POTENTIALLY.Keep the population amazed, scared and out of pocket. It's clever stuff. In my opinion.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rvlvr on June 08, 2019, 12:38:49 AM
What is the reason there is more happening in space nowadays? Does Nasa need to cover the flatness more as the age of awakening is upon us? Is SpaceX and this ISS hoax and all such nonsense just their last desperate attempt to cloud the minds of the people?
Like I said before, it's anyone's guess.
POTENTIALLY.Keep the population amazed, scared and out of pocket. It's clever stuff. In my opinion.
Who does it? Who has the money to pay for it all?
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 08, 2019, 12:44:05 AM

Pretty awesome train of thought you got going there.

Spaceship of thought. Just sayin'   ;)
True, true.


I was thinking Jefferson Airplane to Jefferson Starship.   :D



Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rvlvr on June 08, 2019, 12:47:49 AM
Man, Jefferson Airplane are cool. I haven’t listened to Jefferson Starship as they should have been Jefferson Spaceship and space is a lie!
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 08, 2019, 12:53:43 AM
Man, Jefferson Airplane are cool. I haven’t listened to Jefferson Starship as they should have been Jefferson Spaceship and space is a lie!

Huh, they did make quite a leap, didn't they?   ;)
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rvlvr on June 08, 2019, 12:58:26 AM
Shills and fascists, I tells ya!
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 08, 2019, 01:17:39 AM
that's kinda judgy.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rvlvr on June 08, 2019, 01:22:43 AM
that's kinda judgy.
I am a man quick to judge.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 08, 2019, 01:26:24 AM
that's kinda judgy.
I am a man quick to judge.


I have found if you're right 38% of the time you are beating the odds.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rvlvr on June 08, 2019, 01:33:31 AM
Sounds like my finances.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: wise on June 08, 2019, 02:18:28 AM
Seems cheap, right?
What about all the training needed to ready someone for a so called mission, which is what they call it, tourist or not.
What about the cost of the specially fitted space suits they apparently have to have. Has that been downgraded to a set of overalls and a motorbike helmet or something?

What about the poundage cost of getting a person up to the so called space station.
Wasn't it something like $10,000 per kilo or something, or if not, what was it we were told?

I do believe they will have tourists going to the space station but the tourists will be actors and the space station will be part of a ongoing box set series documenting each and every actor and all the CGI accompanying their act.

PFFFFFFFFFT. :P

they will do it on a zero gravitation aircraft in the near orb goes with the speed of lie an ordinary aircraft. and their excuses will be in the form that ISS has started to fly low to get tourists. with which plane can you catch, dock and ride an object traveling at 27,000 km / h? no plane. :D it's like catching a bullet and riding on it. :))
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rabinoz on June 08, 2019, 02:32:52 AM
they will do it on a zero gravitation aircraft in the near orb goes with the speed of lie an ordinary aircraft. and their excuses will be in the form that ISS has started to fly low to get tourists. with which plane can you catch, dock and ride an object traveling at 27,000 km / h? no plane. :D it's like catching a bullet and riding on it. :))
Not possible!
On the ISS "zero-g" is continuous but look:
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The flight portion of a ZERO-G Experience® lasts approximately 90 to 100 minutes.
During the flight 15 parabolas are performed each providing about 30 seconds of reduced gravity or weightlessness.
Not only that but the rocket flight up would be impossible to simulate on earth.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Unconvinced on June 08, 2019, 03:02:11 AM
Seems cheap, right?

Maybe NASA are counting a “night” as every time there’s a sunset and sunrise?

Sneaky buggers.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 08, 2019, 03:13:39 AM
Seems cheap, right?

Maybe NASA are counting a “night” as every time there’s a sunset and sunrise?

Sneaky buggers.


Hahahahaha

Always read the fine print!
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rabinoz on June 08, 2019, 03:51:39 AM
Always read the fine print!
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The National Aeronautics and Space Administration is opening up a space station to tourism.

NASA said it would open the International Space Station for “private astronaut missions of up to 30 days,” with the first mission as early as 2020.
As Boeing and SpaceX are developing capsules to carry humans to the ISS, the agency said the two companies will handle these private tourists and any services related to them.

NASA will start with two private astronaut flights a year, with each trip lasting 30 days maximum each.
With NASA getting $35,000[1] for each night a private astronaut spends on the International Space Station.

[1] Each trip will likely cost over $50 million in necessary transport costs to be arranged with 3rd party.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 08, 2019, 04:07:10 AM

NASA will start with two private astronaut flights a year, with each trip lasting 30 days maximum each.
With NASA getting $35,000 for each night a private astronaut spends on the International Space Station.

Trivago has it for $32,600 per night.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 08, 2019, 04:09:01 AM
Wait, Travelocity lists it for $31,999
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rvlvr on June 08, 2019, 04:42:45 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/09/a3/1b/09a31b8335b629e280e798caa8e15e63--shop-smart-bruce-campbell.jpg)
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: rabinoz on June 08, 2019, 05:48:20 AM
Trivago has it for $32,600 per night.
You forgot the "fine print" covering "travel expenses".
Always read the fine print!
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The National Aeronautics and Space Administration is opening up a space station to tourism.
[1] Each trip will likely cost over $50 million in necessary transport costs to be arranged with 3rd party.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 08, 2019, 06:30:51 AM
Trivago has it for $32,600 per night.
You forgot the "fine print" covering "travel expenses".
Always read the fine print!
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The National Aeronautics and Space Administration is opening up a space station to tourism.
[1] Each trip will likely cost over $50 million in necessary transport costs to be arranged with 3rd party.


Dude . . .

to keep a joke rolling it's 'yes, and...'

not, 'wait a minute, what about this?'
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Unconvinced on June 08, 2019, 06:57:44 AM
I generally book last minute to try to get cheap offer, but you can’t be too picky about where you stay.

So you might have to make do with strapped to a wall space no 8 instead of strapped to a wall space no 5.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 08, 2019, 07:42:19 AM
I wonder if they accept pets.
That would be hilarious.

I have a mental image of a bug-eyed chiwawa
shivering and stirring its legs as it spins circles.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Denspressure on June 08, 2019, 09:05:48 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48560874

Nasa is to allow tourists to visit the International Space Station from 2020, priced at $35,000 (£27,500) per night.

The cost to stay is trivial compared to the taxi fare to get there.

Think its being just 50 kms altitude zero gravity plane then taxi fare becomes unimportant. With this, NASA has proved ISS's not being orbit. Now they will think on this, they will correct it.  ;)
Do 24/7 zero-g planes exist?
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Denspressure on June 08, 2019, 09:08:56 AM
Trivago has it for $32,600 per night.
You forgot the "fine print" covering "travel expenses".
Always read the fine print!
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The National Aeronautics and Space Administration is opening up a space station to tourism.
[1] Each trip will likely cost over $50 million in necessary transport costs to be arranged with 3rd party.
So Virgin Galactic flights will still be cheaper then for access to space, al be it 'only' suborbital and for a short time.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: turtles on June 08, 2019, 09:55:58 AM
I wonder if they accept pets.
That would be hilarious.

I have a mental image of a bug-eyed chiwawa
shivering and stirring its legs as it spins circles.

I'd take my pet hornet nest.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Denspressure on June 08, 2019, 09:56:56 AM
I wonder if they accept pets.
That would be hilarious.

I have a mental image of a bug-eyed chiwawa
shivering and stirring its legs as it spins circles.
This is why I don't like humanity as a whole...
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Unconvinced on June 08, 2019, 12:51:47 PM

So Virgin Galactic flights will still be cheaper then for access to space, al be it 'only' suborbital and for a short time.

Yeah, but the ISS would be far cooler.

I’d be a bit cornered they might not have adequate bar facilities or a smoking area though.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: Crutchwater on June 08, 2019, 01:05:55 PM
Just say "Bada Book, Bada Boom"
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: jimster on June 08, 2019, 04:41:23 PM
Whatever you have to say about space tourism, hoax, faked on earth, liar, whatever, it is not future tense, it is pasy tense. Richard Garriott (creator of Ultima), spent 12 days in space. I recall there have been others that paid the Russians over the past several years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Garriott

He is also a ham radio operator who communicated with students on the flight. Ham radio operators have several technical reasons to use RE, direction to point highly directional beam antenna, amsat.org launched a satellite they made on SpaceX, and moonbounce. Try going to a ham radio club and telling them the earth is not round.

Richard Garriott: liar, or Disney ride con victim? NASA (in coordination with the Russians who trained and transported him on Soyuz) threatened to kill him and his family if he didn't act like it all happened? Maybe there never was an Ultima game and the whole thing is a phony NASA persona? Pretty easy to say "fake news" on a web site. Faking all the space flight stuff, that's impressive, pretty much as impressive as actual space flight, in a different way.

As for more space tourists, private countries, nations, satellites, lunar landers, etc, I do not see it affecting FE. There is already huge evidence that spaceflight is real, nothing make it through the FE deflector shields, using the classic tactics: You haven't been to space, NASA hoax, etc. Repeat as needed. 10 years from now, FE will be exactly what it is now, it can never break out and take over university, text books, scientists, etc, either because they are a giant multi-generational multi-national conspiracy of scientists, govt, space programs, ship's captains, astronomers, science teachers, astronomers, pilots, and others for some reason going to immense effort to hide the true shape of the earth, or the earth is round.

Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: hoppy on June 09, 2019, 05:33:49 PM
I wonder if they accept pets.
That would be hilarious.

I have a mental image of a bug-eyed chiwawa
shivering and stirring its legs as it spins circles.
And then the chiwawa pinches a loaf and shillinoz grabs it to eat thinking one of the other guests has made fudge.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: sokarul on June 09, 2019, 05:37:53 PM
*Chihuahua
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: sceptimatic on June 09, 2019, 11:32:41 PM
*Chihuahua
Different dogs. Theirs is a Chiwawa.
Title: Re: Nasa to open International Space Station to tourists
Post by: sokarul on June 12, 2019, 07:22:48 AM
Let’s see one.