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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth General => Topic started by: Thork on May 25, 2013, 04:50:55 AM

Title: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Thork on May 25, 2013, 04:50:55 AM
The lizard conspiracy is central to flat earth theory.

This set me wondering what a lizardman might look like in its native form? I would like to debate what a lizardman might look like in the context of it being central to flat earth theory.

Assuming they are reptilian shapeshifters, what is their native form? Are they more like alligators or geckos, snakes or monitor lizards? Does anyone have any sources to suggest what they might look like?

I might also like to debate where they keep their eggs, so as they are never found.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: RyanTG on May 25, 2013, 04:55:58 AM
I'd also like to know whether or not these "lizard people" are a terrestrial species or an extraterrestrial species, if it is the first, how are they capable of copulating with humans all together? Are these lizard people able to instantly morph and change their genome to match a humans and then change back to their original genome? If it is the latter, i'm amazed life from other planets is made up of the same biological molecules (DNA) as all life on this earth and then also apply the questions I asked first to the latter.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: icanbeanything on May 25, 2013, 05:27:07 AM
I'd also like to know whether or not these "lizard people" are a terrestrial species or an extraterrestrial species, if it is the first, how are they capable of copulating with humans all together? Are these lizard people able to instantly morph and change their genome to match a humans and then change back to their original genome? If it is the latter, i'm amazed life from other planets is made up of the same biological molecules (DNA) as all life on this earth and then also apply the questions I asked first to the latter.

I think the notion of extraterrestrial species is completely incompatible with any FET...

Also, you can't consider them reptiles if they're shapeshifters. When they shift into humans, are they still reptiles, or they become mammals? Besides, a shapeshifter, whatever fantasy world it comes from, has no reason to have a 'native form'.

And I have absolutely no freakin' idea in what way it's central to the flat earth theory? In what way are they even related?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: DuckDodgers on May 25, 2013, 07:17:17 AM
I imagine that in their true form, the lizard people look a lot like the ones from Planet of the Lost.  And it is a well known fact that they do not breed with humans, but are instead sent to infiltrate the upper echelon of society in pairs so that they do not taint the pure breeding of the lizard people.  Those that do mix species are hunted down and eradicated and labeled as psychotic or sociopathic, and often times framed in the activities of the other lizard people, such as the Batman Release Killer or the guy from Sandy Hook.  If any children are spawned from such a coupling, they are immediately taken and killed in previously stated activities so that there are victims to sympathize for to fuel the emotion of the inferior humans.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Username on May 26, 2013, 09:22:10 AM
From what I understand from there are those who believe they look like giant lizard men, and those that believe they look like you and I. 

Based off the implications, I imagine they would simply have a higher rate of use of their basal ganglia and other reptilian portions of their brain (R-Complex) driving them to seek dominance. Likely other reptilian-like behavior would occur, like rote and ritual behavior and tendencies to act in a primitive way often worried about power structure and unimportant details.  When confronted with a situation in which dominance is not an option they may behave in a frenzy or even show super-violence.  A lack of higher functions like certain positive emotions may be a hallmark.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Saddam Hussein on May 26, 2013, 09:40:28 AM
Might this be related to boat-building dinosaurs?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Username on May 26, 2013, 09:47:06 AM
Might this be related to boat-building dinosaurs?
Nothings impossible. A reptilian society would likely be highly vicious, but if part mammalian or otherwise evolved it is not outside of possibility.  James might have some enlightenment to share on this issue, though I'm sure he's rather too busy to comment. 

I must admit that lately this hypothesis seems more likely, albeit I am more interested in idea of metaphysical boat-building dinosaurs.  Dinosaurs aware of their fate that may have moved on and ascended.  Likewise, dinosaurs aware of a flood that may have attempted to save themselves.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Saddam Hussein on May 26, 2013, 09:51:12 AM
Metaphysical boats, or metaphysical dinosaurs?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Username on May 26, 2013, 09:52:41 AM
Right, sorry;  Metaphysical boats.  Its a silly thought though. And one that changes little.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on May 26, 2013, 08:12:57 PM
Do we have anything to fear of these "lizard people"?
And is it possible they have infiltrated the The Flat Earth Society leaders?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: squevil on May 26, 2013, 09:01:15 PM
I suggest reading the eden trillogy by harry harrison for an insight to the the possible foundations of the lizard culture.

since the egg of time they have been the leading species. however since capturing kerrik they made a big mistake and numbers would of dwindled. but they were still dominant and could still be pulling the strings.

if their history is correct id imagine they use a living mammal (although this would disgust them) as camouflage to appear human.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on May 26, 2013, 10:57:33 PM
I suggest reading the eden trillogy by harry harrison for an insight to the the possible foundations of the lizard culture.

since the egg of time they have been the leading species. however since capturing kerrik they made a big mistake and numbers would of dwindled. but they were still dominant and could still be pulling the strings.

if their history is correct id imagine they use a living mammal (although this would disgust them) as camouflage to appear human.


Did they make a movie version?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sandokhan on May 26, 2013, 11:31:56 PM
The term reptilian does not refer to appearance, it refers to the blood line.

The historical figure known as Leonardo Da Vinci included this mysteries in his paintings:

(http://loyallawyer.ru/img/e3/e36/Leonardo_da_Vinci_The_Mirror_of_the_Sacred_Scriptures_and_Paintings_World_Bacchus_1_4.jpg)

Leonardo da Vinci - The Mirror of the Sacred Scriptures and Paintings World - Bacchus -1/4 (http://#)

(http://www.leonardodavinci.net/images/gallery/mona-lisa.jpg)

Certainly the landscape resembles nothing comparable to the known flat earth geography: where is it actually located?

Most researchers think that this is the Mona Lisa or Gioconda, IT IS NOT.

In the official chronology of history, Raphael made a sketch of this painting, probably from memory, after seeing it in Leonardo's studio (this sketch is at the Louvre). The Raphael sketch includes the two Greek columns that are found not in the Louvre's Mona Lisa.

Who then is the figure with no eyebrows and no eyelashes?

Read also the book of Enoch, chapter 15.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on May 27, 2013, 12:08:43 AM
the mona lisa was a lizard woman?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: squevil on May 27, 2013, 01:27:17 AM
the mona lisa was a lizard woman?

Yeah and probably painted 20 years ago according to levee.  ::)

And no sadly the Eden trilogy was not made into a movie. It would be better than starwars and LOTR combined if it was. The lizard tape scene would be a talking point! 

Whenever dinosaur boats get bought up it always reminds me of murgu and their ways.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Saddam Hussein on May 27, 2013, 05:52:34 AM
the mona lisa was a lizard woman?

Read Brother Levee's post more carefully.  She was of the reptilian bloodline.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Lord Wilmore on May 27, 2013, 04:46:30 PM
(http://www.leonardodavinci.net/images/gallery/mona-lisa.jpg)

Certainly the landscape resembles nothing comparable to the known flat earth geography: where is it actually located?

Most researchers think that this is the Mona Lisa or Gioconda, IT IS NOT.

In the official chronology of history, Raphael made a sketch of this painting, probably from memory, after seeing it in Leonardo's studio (this sketch is at the Louvre). The Raphael sketch includes the two Greek columns that are found not in the Louvre's Mona Lisa.

Who then is the figure with no eyebrows and no eyelashes?

Read also the book of Enoch, chapter 15.


Brother levee, is it your opinion that the Mona Lisa is a depiction of a reptilian-human hybrid beyond the known Earth?


Also, I am familiar with the book of Enoch, and have read that chapter, but I cannot fully understand the connection you are referring to. Are the reptilians those who were banished for lying with Earthly women, or am I misunderstanding you?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: squevil on May 27, 2013, 05:58:26 PM
he said it was bloodline for the second time  ::)
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Lord Wilmore on May 27, 2013, 06:08:51 PM
he said it was bloodline for the second time  ::)


Yes, I gathered that from the images. But the book of Enoch refers to both giants and the watchers from heaven. The Watchers from Heaven, presumably the reptilians, are confined to the spiritual world and given no "wives". Their offspring, the giants, are presumably the hybrids, and they must dwell on the Earth.


So if the Mona Lisa is a hybrid, and levee is contending that the scenery in the image is not from the known Earth, then that would mean she was a human-reptilian hybrid living beyond the known Earth. This presents problems, or at least questions, as compared with the book of Enoch, which is why I was trying to clarify the exact relationship with levee.


Are the Watchers from beyond the known Earth, or beyond that again? Have their been hybrids in what is referred to as the spiritual realm, or are their hybrids living beyond the knowledge of man, yet still cut off from their reptilian ancestors?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on May 27, 2013, 07:51:12 PM
So now that we know the lizard people are abundant and rule the earth, and maybe even the FES. What measures can we take to protect ourselves?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sandokhan on May 27, 2013, 08:50:39 PM
Watchers of Heaven are not reptilian.

Reptilian refers to this.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ySGCMh4EVtY/TXb2BB5Yf7I/AAAAAAAAAj0/fyw0bh4_CLM/s1600/The%2BFall%2Bof%2BAdam%2Band%2BEve%252C%2BHugo%2Bvan%2Bder%2BGoes%2B1470.jpg)

The scenery in Mona Lisa is a direct reference to the Garden of Eden, which is not beyond the Earth but very much at the center of it, as the Book of Jubilees makes perfectly clear.


You can protect yourself indirectly by listening to the voice of the heart, which can easily access information which is not available to the five senses; to protect oneself directly would mean to see the baryons, mesons, and subquarks which comprise the aura of the human body, and which are slightly different for a reptilian bloodline descendant:

(http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt-Body.jpg)

This is what the human body really looks like, and we can note the striking similarities with the subquark itself:

(http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt%20color.jpg)
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Saddam Hussein on May 27, 2013, 08:53:41 PM
What are baryons, mesons, and subquarks?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Sean on May 27, 2013, 09:03:08 PM
Reptilians are flat
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on May 27, 2013, 09:08:21 PM
How do we obtain these items?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Saddam Hussein on May 27, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
What happened to levee's post?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on May 27, 2013, 09:21:10 PM
I believed it was moved to the FEB forum.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sandokhan on May 27, 2013, 10:47:30 PM
My last message here was actually DELETED.

What the frell is going on?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sandokhan on May 28, 2013, 02:49:11 AM
Most probably the message was deleted because of the painting...

Let us try again without a direct link to that painting in question.

Watchers from Heaven are not reptilian.

Reptilian refers to something else: please search for van der goes temptation the eve and the identity of women website (those who understand the new radical chronology already know that the Renaissance occurred during the 18th century, as the works of major artists like Raphael, Caravaggio, Titian can be found at Pompei which was destroyed by the eruption of the volcano Vesuvius at least after 1700 AD).

This painting explains everything.

The scenery in the Mona Lisa painting refers to the Garden of Eden, which is not located beyond the Earth, but very much at the center of it as described in the Book of Jubilees. Chapter 15 from the Book of Enoch specifies what happened to the hybrids.


Now, this is what the human body really looks like, when we add what cannot be seen or detected with usual scientific equipment: the baryons, mesons, and subquarks which compose the human aura.

http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt-Body.jpg (http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt-Body.jpg)

In the human aura each feeling and thought can actually be seen, if we had the esp capacity to observe them.

Notice the extraordinary resemblance to the shape of a subquark:

http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt%20color.jpg (http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt%20color.jpg)


Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Eddy Baby on May 28, 2013, 03:28:53 AM
Is that a knitted person?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: squevil on May 29, 2013, 10:10:09 AM
You might be just making a mistake by interpreting facts within a work of fiction?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Lord Wilmore on May 29, 2013, 05:40:10 PM
Apologies, there was apparently a bit of a mix-up with moving posts. I've put Sandokhan's post back where it should be.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on May 29, 2013, 05:50:31 PM
Thank you Willmore, but why was Th*rk demodded?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Lord Wilmore on May 29, 2013, 05:51:47 PM
Thank you Willmore, but why was Th*rk demodded?


Because he resigned a few months ago. Now, let's stick to the topic at hand.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: squevil on May 29, 2013, 09:42:16 PM
why does the body look like something my nan made? id love to know what detected my wooly aura.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Eddy Baby on May 30, 2013, 06:57:12 AM
Why has this thread gone back in time?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Lord Wilmore on June 04, 2013, 06:20:38 PM
Most probably the message was deleted because of the painting...

Let us try again without a direct link to that painting in question.

Watchers from Heaven are not reptilian.

Reptilian refers to something else: please search for van der goes temptation the eve and the identity of women website (those who understand the new radical chronology already know that the Renaissance occurred during the 18th century, as the works of major artists like Raphael, Caravaggio, Titian can be found at Pompei which was destroyed by the eruption of the volcano Vesuvius at least after 1700 AD).

This painting explains everything.

The scenery in the Mona Lisa painting refers to the Garden of Eden, which is not located beyond the Earth, but very much at the center of it as described in the Book of Jubilees. Chapter 15 from the Book of Enoch specifies what happened to the hybrids.


Now, this is what the human body really looks like, when we add what cannot be seen or detected with usual scientific equipment: the baryons, mesons, and subquarks which compose the human aura.

http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt-Body.jpg (http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt-Body.jpg)

In the human aura each feeling and thought can actually be seen, if we had the esp capacity to observe them.

Notice the extraordinary resemblance to the shape of a subquark:

http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt%20color.jpg (http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt%20color.jpg)


Thank you, I will look into this.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: FlatOrange on June 04, 2013, 06:30:07 PM
Anyone recognize this speaker? He talks about lizard men

01 Firewall- Bright Eyes (The People's Key) (http://#)

Edit: never mind, youtube comments are so helpful. I guess it's Denny Brewer
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 04, 2013, 06:50:55 PM
Most probably the message was deleted because of the painting...

Let us try again without a direct link to that painting in question.

Watchers from Heaven are not reptilian.

Reptilian refers to something else: please search for van der goes temptation the eve and the identity of women website (those who understand the new radical chronology already know that the Renaissance occurred during the 18th century, as the works of major artists like Raphael, Caravaggio, Titian can be found at Pompei which was destroyed by the eruption of the volcano Vesuvius at least after 1700 AD).

This painting explains everything.

The scenery in the Mona Lisa painting refers to the Garden of Eden, which is not located beyond the Earth, but very much at the center of it as described in the Book of Jubilees. Chapter 15 from the Book of Enoch specifies what happened to the hybrids.


Now, this is what the human body really looks like, when we add what cannot be seen or detected with usual scientific equipment: the baryons, mesons, and subquarks which compose the human aura.

http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt-Body.jpg (http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt-Body.jpg)

In the human aura each feeling and thought can actually be seen, if we had the esp capacity to observe them.

Notice the extraordinary resemblance to the shape of a subquark:

http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt%20color.jpg (http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt%20color.jpg)


Thank you, I will look into this.


If you are Reptilian, you can tell us the whole story about the Conspiracy.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: mexicanwave on June 05, 2013, 04:04:53 AM

(http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt-Body.jpg)

Where can I get one of these fabulous (and cozy) knitted suits of armour??? I must have it! We all must protect ourselves form the lizard men, and we all know that lizard men just can't stand the feel of fine MAN-MADE knitted (or crochet) garments.

Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 05, 2013, 09:35:59 AM

(http://www.weare1.us/Babbitt-Body.jpg)

Where can I get one of these fabulous (and cozy) knitted suits of armour??? I must have it! We all must protect ourselves form the lizard men, and we all know that lizard men just can't stand the feel of fine LIZARD-MADE knitted (or crochet) garments.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Username on June 05, 2013, 10:04:35 AM
For those interested in the source, http://www.archive.org/download/http://archive.org/details/PrinciplesOfLightAndColor (http://www.archive.org/download/http://archive.org/details/PrinciplesOfLightAndColor)
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Rushy on June 05, 2013, 10:35:53 AM
This thread needs to go away.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 05, 2013, 03:48:26 PM
This thread needs to go away.


Rushy, you speak heresy. Do not tread on thin ice, or Willmore will smack his ban hammer!
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: ataraxia on June 11, 2013, 12:30:56 AM
This thread needs to go away.

Someone is scared of the truth!
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Username on June 13, 2013, 08:10:24 AM
Terra Firma 1901, p38
Angels are an entirely different order of begings from men, and in the Old Testament, are called Beni Elohim, "Sons of God" who, we are told, when the foundations of the Earth were laid, "shouted for joy" - Job xxxviii
...
And, under certain particular circumstances, they have been mistaken for men, but, in Scripture, the distinction between them and ourselves has always been essential and must so continue.  It is only when redeemed men are raised from the dead, or changed at the Coming of our Lord, that they are said to be made isangeloi, equal to angels in the respect that "they shell die no more" Luke xx. 36
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 13, 2013, 09:48:22 AM
So is it possible the lizard men have infiltrated the FES?
Did Th*rk find out and that is why he was ousted?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sandokhan on June 14, 2013, 04:32:54 AM
Minerals - subject only to the dextrorotatory terrestrial gravity waves

Plants - ability to use baryons and mesons (laevorotatory, left-handed, subquarks)

Animals - baryons, mesons and on a limited level, quarks (emotional body)

Human beings - baryons, mesons, quarks, and subquarks (mental body) - one sexual force to be used outside the body to create, the other one remains latent inside the body (emotions, seminal liquid, male force - imagination, blood, female force)

Angels - both creative forces can be used inside and outside the body - body is made entirely of baryons, mesons, quarks, and subquarks - the vibration of these particles (energy meridians) can be increased or reduced (can take on the appearance of a human being, or increase the vibration to become invisible to the naked eye)

Blood - physical manifestation of the imagination
Seminal liquid - physical manifestation of the generative force

Once both creative forces can be used, the neutral force, divine wisdom, can be received in full power.

More information here: http://www.rosicrucian.com/rcc/rcceng00.htm (http://www.rosicrucian.com/rcc/rcceng00.htm) (use both the topical and alphabetical indices)
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: RyanTG on June 14, 2013, 06:01:21 AM
Minerals - subject only to the dextrorotatory terrestrial gravity waves

Plants - ability to use baryons and mesons (laevorotatory, left-handed, subquarks)

Animals - baryons, mesons and on a limited level, quarks (emotional body)

Human beings - baryons, mesons, quarks, and subquarks (mental body) - one sexual force to be used outside the body to create, the other one remains latent inside the body (emotions, seminal liquid, male force - imagination, blood, female force)

Angels - both creative forces can be used inside and outside the body - body is made entirely of baryons, mesons, quarks, and subquarks - the vibration of these particles (energy meridians) can be increased or reduced (can take on the appearance of a human being, or increase the vibration to become invisible to the naked eye)

Blood - physical manifestation of the imagination
Seminal liquid - physical manifestation of the generative force

Once both creative forces can be used, the neutral force, divine wisdom, can be received in full power.

More information here: http://www.rosicrucian.com/rcc/rcceng00.htm (http://www.rosicrucian.com/rcc/rcceng00.htm) (use both the topical and alphabetical indices)

Do you just make this up as you go along?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sandokhan on June 14, 2013, 06:23:24 AM
Not at all.

Please read:

http://www.prosveta.com/product_detail.phtml?id=285&pos=8&collection_id=3 (http://www.prosveta.com/product_detail.phtml?id=285&pos=8&collection_id=3)


http://www.healthy.net/Health/Article/Scientific_Evidence_in_Support_of_Acupuncture_and_Meridian_Theory_I_Introduction/1087 (http://www.healthy.net/Health/Article/Scientific_Evidence_in_Support_of_Acupuncture_and_Meridian_Theory_I_Introduction/1087) (three pages)

http://www.qigonginstitute.org/html/scientificbasis.php (http://www.qigonginstitute.org/html/scientificbasis.php)


Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: RyanTG on June 14, 2013, 06:50:01 AM
Not at all.

Please read:

http://www.prosveta.com/product_detail.phtml?id=285&pos=8&collection_id=3 (http://www.prosveta.com/product_detail.phtml?id=285&pos=8&collection_id=3)


http://www.healthy.net/Health/Article/Scientific_Evidence_in_Support_of_Acupuncture_and_Meridian_Theory_I_Introduction/1087 (http://www.healthy.net/Health/Article/Scientific_Evidence_in_Support_of_Acupuncture_and_Meridian_Theory_I_Introduction/1087) (three pages)

http://www.qigonginstitute.org/html/scientificbasis.php (http://www.qigonginstitute.org/html/scientificbasis.php)

Have you ever considered the scientific evidence (not that you should, assuming you are a zetetic) that indicates that Acupuncture is a pseudo-medicine, meridian points don't exist, clairvoyance and astral projections are complete nonsense and "energy medicine" is pile of shit masked in a shroud of "quantum physics"?

As a side note, none of those links explain why minerals are "subject only to the dextrorotatory terrestrial gravity waves" ??? and blood is a "physical manifestation of the imagination" ???.

You also seem to me throwing around the terms quark, baryon, mesons and subquarks (a term that isn't even used in physics) without really understanding what they are. For example, baryons are made of quarks. I don't see how a plant has the ability to use a baryon but only a human can use a quark?

What? ??? ???
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Adolf Hipster on June 14, 2013, 07:05:20 AM
I apologize for asking and my late entrance to the thread, but John Davis said how the lizard conspiracy is central to flat earth theory.
In what way do lizard-men have anything to do with it?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sandokhan on June 14, 2013, 07:07:10 AM
You have not done your homework at all (not that you should, assuming you are a RE).

In my alternative flat earth faq (and also at the beam neutrinos thread) you will find the most precise proofs re: subquarks, quarks, mesons, baryons - the best description and exact function.

For the existence of subquarks please also see my alternative faq, for the latest experiments and findings (obviously, you have not done any research, yet you have the audacity to complain).

I have explained many times what dextrorotatory ether waves are and their effect on matter (minerals); in fact I have done so better than anybody else.

Once you will read all the material I provided, you will gain an extraordinary knowledge re: baryons, mesons, quarks, subquarks, their relationship to the etheric/reproductive/emotional/mental bodies, how blood is related to the imagination.

It is obvious that this is your first exposure to such subjects...if you are really interested, my messages are a very good starting point to learn everything you want to know re: meridian theory (they really do exist).

Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sandokhan on June 14, 2013, 07:10:09 AM
Lizard conspiracy refers to the bloodline who invented the round earth theory, and who also falsified the entire official history and chronology.

Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Username on June 14, 2013, 07:20:43 AM
I would suggest amendment here - there are , if one follows biblical sources, at least two types of angels (though perhaps up to 4);  those that are immortal men changed through Death or the Coming, and angels themselves who may have ruled this land under Satan at some point. I am about to do some heavy digging through religious sources on this sorta thing.  I'll keep in mind to notate any contextual or semantic clues concerning their nature.

I can't say I agree with your assessment of the data, but I'm sure it could be right for your World View. I still would think it a stretch to think Angels are reptilian.  However, it would fit with what we know about certain histories.  We have a race of lizards that lived in the past and died due to their lack of abstraction and territorial mindset. We as humans are given a mammalian aspect to thought and a reptilian one.  Could it be that Those Who Do Not Die are not those humans that have shed all traces of reptilian urge and ascended to a higher form of living?

One has to draw no thin line when examining the histories of religions and the mythologies and tales of man to see the blinding similarity between forms of angelus and serpents - especially when one considers who Satan is and the birth of a world order, the knowledge of good and evil.  Vampyres, who fail to have the abstraction necessary to deal with even a mess of rice without rainmaning them, in gypsy and European mythologies. Looking back to Egyptian, Mayan, etc you can rely on texts like Chariot of the Gods to point out the obvious incongruities, even if their interpretations may differ.  Angels, referring in this case to those that Announce, also seem to lack this abstraction, relying on God's Law to point the way alone, sometimes with a lack of free will.

If we are dealing with angels, which by nature are in part metaphysical beings and have oft in story and legend changed shape, concerning oneself with their physical or natural makeup seems foolhardy.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Adolf Hipster on June 14, 2013, 07:42:57 AM
You have not done your homework at all (not that you should, assuming you are a RE).

In my alternative flat earth faq (and also at the beam neutrinos thread) you will find the most precise proofs re: subquarks, quarks, mesons, baryons - the best description and exact function.

For the existence of subquarks please also see my alternative faq, for the latest experiments and findings (obviously, you have not done any research, yet you have the audacity to complain).

I have explained many times what dextrorotatory ether waves are and their effect on matter (minerals); in fact I have done so better than anybody else.

Once you will read all the material I provided, you will gain an extraordinary knowledge re: baryons, mesons, quarks, subquarks, their relationship to the etheric/reproductive/emotional/mental bodies, how blood is related to the imagination.

It is obvious that this is your first exposure to such subjects...if you are really interested, my messages are a very good starting point to learn everything you want to know re: meridian theory (they really do exist).
Blood and imagination?

I am not saying this is ridiculous, but very interesting. I shall have to read your alternative FAQ sometime.

EDIT: I have tried to open the links in your Alternative Flat Earth Theory thread, but they all don't work.
It just says Server Error
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Username on June 14, 2013, 07:49:47 AM
I'll resolve that today, thanks for letting me know!
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: RyanTG on June 14, 2013, 08:08:19 AM
You have not done your homework at all (not that you should, assuming you are a RE).

If by homework you mean reading your own sources, then no I haven't. If by homework you mean examining the scientific literature on the claims you make, then yes I have. Nothing of which, agrees with what you are saying.


For the existence of subquarks please also see my alternative faq, for the latest experiments and findings (obviously, you have not done any research, yet you have the audacity to complain).

Jesus christ, if I was to read through all that i'd be here for weeks. Give me exact links to your evidence for subquarks, i'm sure the scientific community would love to hear it. Especially since the existence of preons (subquarks) have yet to be found in particle accelerators.


I have explained many times what dextrorotatory ether waves are and their effect on matter (minerals); in fact I have done so better than anybody else.

Once you will read all the material I provided, you will gain an extraordinary knowledge re: baryons, mesons, quarks, subquarks, their relationship to the etheric/reproductive/emotional/mental bodies, how blood is related to the imagination.

It is obvious that this is your first exposure to such subjects...if you are really interested, my messages are a very good starting point to learn everything you want to know re: meridian theory (they really do exist).

Once again, I simply don't have the time to read through all of your work. You should submit it to a physics journal or some other sort of journal. I've been on many forums, many alternative theory websites and they are all like you.

They all have these wildly different alternative explanations for the universe we live in, yet there have gotten no where, there are still moaning on internet forums.

Why should I trust what you say compared to the literally dozens of other people who are exactly like you spouting the exact same nonsense?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sokarul on June 14, 2013, 01:35:14 PM
Minerals - subject only to the dextrorotatory terrestrial gravity waves

Plants - ability to use baryons and mesons (laevorotatory, left-handed, subquarks)

Animals - baryons, mesons and on a limited level, quarks (emotional body)

Human beings - baryons, mesons, quarks, and subquarks (mental body) - one sexual force to be used outside the body to create, the other one remains latent inside the body (emotions, seminal liquid, male force - imagination, blood, female force)

Angels - both creative forces can be used inside and outside the body - body is made entirely of baryons, mesons, quarks, and subquarks - the vibration of these particles (energy meridians) can be increased or reduced (can take on the appearance of a human being, or increase the vibration to become invisible to the naked eye)

Blood - physical manifestation of the imagination
Seminal liquid - physical manifestation of the generative force

Once both creative forces can be used, the neutral force, divine wisdom, can be received in full power.

More information here: http://www.rosicrucian.com/rcc/rcceng00.htm (http://www.rosicrucian.com/rcc/rcceng00.htm) (use both the topical and alphabetical indices)

Do you just make this up as you go along?
He does. And he still hasn't addressed how I make a living using what he says doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sandokhan on June 15, 2013, 01:12:57 AM
ryantg wrote:

Yes a photon is massless, the speed of light c is most definitely a constant (under known conditions) and yes the general theory of relativity is always going to be correct.

You haven't done your homework, not at all.

At the present time, you know perhaps some 10% of what you should know as a scientist.



There is no such thing as the theory of relativity.


How the concept of space-time was introduced in physics/total demolition of the theory of relativity:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489133.html#msg1489133 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489133.html#msg1489133)

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489282.html#msg1489282 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489282.html#msg1489282)


Dayton Miller experiments contradict the theory of relativity:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489282.html#msg1489282 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489282.html#msg1489282)


Nikola Tesla, faster than light experiment:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489340.html#msg1489340 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489340.html#msg1489340)


Colossal mistakes in the stroboscopic dating:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489346.html#msg1489346 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489346.html#msg1489346)


How Einstein fudged the Mercury perihelion equation:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489387.html#msg1489387 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489387.html#msg1489387)


Dr. Bruce DePalma's experiments demolish the theory of relativity:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489408.html#msg1489408 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489408.html#msg1489408)



Maxwell's original equations demolish the accepted theory of relativity, also they prove that the speed of light is a VARIABLE:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489693.html#msg1489693 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489693.html#msg1489693)

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489785.html#msg1489785 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1489785.html#msg1489785)


Total demolition of the big bang theory:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,55861.0.html#.UbXRpecweSo (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,55861.0.html#.UbXRpecweSo)


Jupiter infrared radiation paradox:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,55860.0.html#.UbXRzucweSo (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,55860.0.html#.UbXRzucweSo)


What did you say? That you have done your homework? You are dreaming of course, just like sokarul.


SUBQUARK MODEL OF THE ATOM, TOTAL PROOFS:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,30499.msg1401101.html#msg1401101 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,30499.msg1401101.html#msg1401101)


FERMILAB, SUBQUARK DETECTION:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,30499.msg1278981.html#msg1278981 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,30499.msg1278981.html#msg1278981)



You posted earlier something relating to pulsars...again, no homework at all.

PULSAR ANGULAR MOMENTUM PARADOX:

http://www.enterprisemission.com/pulsar.htm (http://www.enterprisemission.com/pulsar.htm)


No homework at all...this is your problem ryantg.

BIOHOMOCHIRALITY AND TERRESTRIAL GRAVITY:

Some molecules come in left– and right-handed forms that are mirror images of each other (i.e.: they are related like our left and right hands. Hence this property is called chirality, from the Greek word for hand. The two forms are called enantiomers (from the Greek word for opposite) or optical isomers, because they rotate plane-polarised light either to the right or to the left.).  All biological proteins are composed of only left-handed amino acids.  How this could have come about in a primordial soup has long been a puzzle to origin-of-life researchers, since both L (levo, left-handed) and D (dextro, right-handed) forms react indiscriminately.

Francis Crick, codiscoverer of the DNA structure, describes this strange characteristic of the molecules of living organisms:

    It has been well known for many years that for any particular molecule only one hand occurs in nature.  For example the amino acids one finds in proteins are always what are called the L or levo amino acids, and never the D or dextro amino acids.  Only one of the two mirror possibilities occurs in proteins.


Linus Pauling, Nobel laureate in chemistry:

        This is a very puzzling fact . . . . All the proteins that have been investigated, obtained from animals and from plants, from higher organisms and from very simple organisms bacteria, molds, even viruses are found to have been made of L-amino acids.


http://we.vub.ac.be/~dglg/Web/Teaching/Les/Orlifequestions/Cronin-Reisse.pdf (http://we.vub.ac.be/~dglg/Web/Teaching/Les/Orlifequestions/Cronin-Reisse.pdf) (origins of biohomochirality, an unsolved problem)

http://creation.com/origin-of-life-the-chirality-problem (http://creation.com/origin-of-life-the-chirality-problem) (the best work on the problem of biohomochirality)

http://crev.info/2004/06/mystery_of_the_lefthanded_proteins_solved (http://crev.info/2004/06/mystery_of_the_lefthanded_proteins_solved) (biohomochirality still unsolved)

http://guava.physics.uiuc.edu/~nigel/courses/569/Essays_Fall2006/files/Rajan.pdf (http://guava.physics.uiuc.edu/~nigel/courses/569/Essays_Fall2006/files/Rajan.pdf)


The latest attempt to try to solve the biohomochirality problem (salt induced peptides formation and the more recent work on potassium ions http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23536046 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23536046) ) has many unresolved major problems:

http://books.google.ro/books?id=5ZGUD49fMcAC&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=origin+of+salt+in+ocean+water+peptides+primordial+soup&source=bl&ots=FcdmUK6LXN&sig=oCgbOFYcBHsJp2SQ24xQJVxOozY&hl=ro&sa=X&ei=TFWCUcOrAoXatAaGjoGADA&ved=0CGwQ6AEwBzgK#v=onepage&q=origin%20of%20salt%20in%20ocean%20water%20peptides%20primordial%20soup&f=false (http://books.google.ro/books?id=5ZGUD49fMcAC&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=origin+of+salt+in+ocean+water+peptides+primordial+soup&source=bl&ots=FcdmUK6LXN&sig=oCgbOFYcBHsJp2SQ24xQJVxOozY&hl=ro&sa=X&ei=TFWCUcOrAoXatAaGjoGADA&ved=0CGwQ6AEwBzgK#v=onepage&q=origin%20of%20salt%20in%20ocean%20water%20peptides%20primordial%20soup&f=false)

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/evolutionary-theory-just-add-water/ (http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/evolutionary-theory-just-add-water/)


The best proofs from molecular biology and genetics which prove the theory of evolution to be just a myth:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,55960.msg1398306.html#msg1398306 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,55960.msg1398306.html#msg1398306)

http://lettherebelight-77.blogspot.ro/2012/02/what-evidence-is-found-for-first-life.html (http://lettherebelight-77.blogspot.ro/2012/02/what-evidence-is-found-for-first-life.html) (the best work on the proofs from molecular biology and genetics which demolish evolutionism)

http://www.uncommondescent.com/science-education/oldies-but-baddies-af-repeats-ncses-eight-challenges-to-id-from-ten-years-ago/#comment-453060 (http://www.uncommondescent.com/science-education/oldies-but-baddies-af-repeats-ncses-eight-challenges-to-id-from-ten-years-ago/#comment-453060) (R. Shapiro debunks the Miller experiment and the RNA world)


The origin of biohomochirality is to be found in the physics of the subquark:

(http://www.alliancesforhumanity.com/matter/matter_files/image007.jpg)

Dr.T. Henry Moray:

Further I realized that the energy was not coming out of the earth, but instead was coming to the earth from some outside source. These electrical oscillations in the form of waves were not simple oscillations, but were surgings --- like the waves of the sea --- coming to the earth continually, more in the daytime than at night, but always coming in vibrations from the reservoir of colossal energy out there in space.


Living tissue (with the exception of some bacteria) contains only L-amino acids (laevorotatory-left handed); dead tissue only D-amino acids (dextrorotatory-right handed).


Terrestrial gravity is represented by the dextrorotatory strings of receptive subquarks; antigravity comes into play once we can activate the laevorotatory strings of emissive subquarks (by torsion, sound, applying high electrical tension).

The physics of the subquark:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,30499.msg1401101.html#msg140110 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,30499.msg1401101.html#msg140110)


(sokarul is back with the same rambling, incoherent type of messages, which denote a very serious problem; again, Maxwell's original equations prove the existence of ether, not to mention the DePalma experiments).
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 15, 2013, 01:16:49 AM
What does this have to do with FE leaders possibly being Lizardmen?  ???
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sandokhan on June 15, 2013, 01:22:01 AM
A single message, a very useful bibliography for those who thought they had done their homework...

Now, let us get back to the subject of the thread.

By reading my messages, iwtb, you have at your disposal  the best work on the lizard bloodline conspiracy.


Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 15, 2013, 01:27:09 AM
But how does Willmore fit into the Lizardmen bloodline, and should we be concerned that our leaders could possibly be reptilian?
Or just lay back and accept it as fact?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sandokhan on June 15, 2013, 01:39:30 AM
The fact that the FES presents the UA acceleration and/or the infinite earth hypotheses is not due to any reptilian bloodline conspiracy, but simply because of ignoring the basic proofs which defy both the UA acceleration and the infinite earth conjectures.

Leaders with reptilian bloodline will always be part of some secret society...

Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 15, 2013, 01:40:55 AM
But how can we be sure that Willmore is not reptillian?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: RyanTG on June 15, 2013, 03:15:37 AM
There is no such thing as the theory of general relativity, evolution is a myth and you post articles from intelligent design websites (-.-), there is a reptilian blood line, proof for the "subquark model" comes from a paper on extra-sensory perception ???, Maxwell's equation prove light is variable and they demolish theory of relativity yet nobody in the scientific community who studies physics has come to this conclusion except for you may I add.


I think scepti has a rival.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 15, 2013, 07:17:51 AM
There is no such thing as the theory of general relativity, evolution is a myth and you post articles from intelligent design websites (-.-), there is a reptilian blood line, proof for the "subquark model" comes from a paper on extra-sensory perception ???, Maxwell's equation prove light is variable and they demolish theory of relativity yet nobody in the scientific community who studies physics has come to this conclusion except for you may I add.


I think scepti has a rival.



I do not believe anyone can rival Scepti,
He is the greatest example of how very wrong the FAQ can be. God love him.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sokarul on June 15, 2013, 07:55:43 AM


(sokarul is back with the same rambling, incoherent type of messages, which denote a very serious problem; again, Maxwell's original equations prove the existence of ether, not to mention the DePalma experiments).
Feel free to explain how I make a living. You can spam all the links you want but the truth is you can't.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: RyanTG on June 15, 2013, 09:16:49 AM

Feel free to explain how I make a living. You can spam all the links you want but the truth is you can't.

What is your job may I ask?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sokarul on June 15, 2013, 11:14:08 AM

Feel free to explain how I make a living. You can spam all the links you want but the truth is you can't.

What is your job may I ask?
I'm an analytical chemist. What I am referring to is sandokhan inability to explain how the different Spectroscopes i use work, if the electromagnetic spectrum isn't what science says it is.





So I don't get completely yelled at by the mods. If lizard bloodline exists, can DNA test show it?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Junker on June 15, 2013, 08:29:23 PM
Going to hit all of these at once.

But how can we be sure that Willmore is not reptillian?
IWTB.  Stop it with this.  Now.

I'm an analytical chemist. What I am referring to is sandokhan inability to explain how the different Spectroscopes i use work, if the electromagnetic spectrum isn't what science says it is.
So I don't get completely yelled at by the mods. If lizard bloodline exists, can DNA test show it?
You are fine with that post.

Oh right, so now all the historians are in on the RE conspiracy now. Jesus... there's not many people left who aren't in on it!
You have already been warned about things like this.  Please refrain from low content posts in the upper fora.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Rama Set on June 16, 2013, 06:40:19 AM
Going to hit all of these at once.

But how can we be sure that Willmore is not reptillian?
IWTB.  Stop it with this.  Now.

I'm an analytical chemist. What I am referring to is sandokhan inability to explain how the different Spectroscopes i use work, if the electromagnetic spectrum isn't what science says it is.
So I don't get completely yelled at by the mods. If lizard bloodline exists, can DNA test show it?
You are fine with that post.

Oh right, so now all the historians are in on the RE conspiracy now. Jesus... there's not many people left who aren't in on it!
You have already been warned about things like this.  Please refrain from low content posts in the upper fora.

Could I please ask for an elaboration on why this is low-content? 

Thank you.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Eddy Baby on June 16, 2013, 06:42:40 AM
Never before have I not read so much stuff at one time
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: markjo on June 16, 2013, 07:10:35 AM
Going to hit all of these at once.

But how can we be sure that Willmore is not reptillian?
IWTB.  Stop it with this.  Now.

Oh right, so now all the historians are in on the RE conspiracy now. Jesus... there's not many people left who aren't in on it!
You have already been warned about things like this.  Please refrain from low content posts in the upper fora.
In the context of a reptilian conspiracy discussion thread, how are those comments inappropriate?  ???
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: Junker on June 16, 2013, 10:39:28 AM
Oh right, so now all the historians are in on the RE conspiracy now. Jesus... there's not many people left who aren't in on it!
You have already been warned about things like this.  Please refrain from low content posts in the upper fora.
Could I please ask for an elaboration on why this is low-content? 

Thank you.
It adds nothing to the discussion, that is why.  If you would like to continue, we can over PM.

In the context of a reptilian conspiracy discussion thread, how are those comments inappropriate?  ???

Once again, it adds nothing to the discussion.  IWTB has been posting the same nonsense about Wilmore for several weeks now.  If he has some sort of substantiated claim, then great.  Otherwise, I don't want to see anymore posts about how he thinks Wilmore is a Lizardman, or how we can't be sure he isn't (unless he posts them in CN, where they belong).  Like Rama, if you would like to continue, we can over PM.  I don't want to waste anymore space in this thread on it.

Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: squevil on June 16, 2013, 11:40:45 AM
all the lizard business should be in RM. if the society will allow troll threads to exist then stupid stuff will be posted to it.

this is just on par with moon shrimp posts.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: hoppy on June 16, 2013, 11:53:05 AM
all the lizard business should be in RM. if the society will allow troll threads to exist then stupid stuff will be posted to it.

this is just on par with moon shrimp posts.
Lizard reptilian people are a concern to some folks, and can be a legitimate focus of discussion.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 16, 2013, 12:06:40 PM
all the lizard business should be in RM. if the society will allow troll threads to exist then stupid stuff will be posted to it.

this is just on par with moon shrimp posts.
Lizard reptilian people are a concern to some folks, and can be a legitimate focus of discussion.


hoppy is right.
what if these lizardmen are not Christians, or have any faith?
maybe lizardmen are athiests,  like Willmore. 
Posts like these are paramount for maybe the FES leadership just may be reptillian.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: squevil on June 16, 2013, 02:55:53 PM
ahh yes it is a concern. it was the catalyst to thorks leaving. the only people who should concern themselves with such ideas are on medication.

it might be a legitimate focus alright, there are enough crazies talking about it on other forums. why soil this one with this crap too?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 16, 2013, 08:00:23 PM
do you deny, with your one lit square that Lizardmen, are in control of the FES?
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: squevil on June 16, 2013, 08:32:02 PM
yes because it is a stupid idea. seriously dude you should drop the act from time to time before you cant post up here.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: RyanTG on June 17, 2013, 01:23:08 AM
yes because it is a stupid idea. seriously dude you should drop the act from time to time before you cant post up here.

You should go tell sandokhan that.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sandokhan on June 17, 2013, 05:23:00 AM
There is no such thing as the theory of general relativity, evolution is a myth and you post articles from intelligent design websites (-.-), there is a reptilian blood line, proof for the "subquark model" comes from a paper on extra-sensory perception ???, Maxwell's equation prove light is variable and they demolish theory of relativity yet nobody in the scientific community who studies physics has come to this conclusion except for you may I add.


I think scepti has a rival.

The very best of quantum physicists, astrophysicists have come to the same conclusion, and I have enumerated already some of them: Nikola Tesla, T. Townsend Brown, Linus Pauling, J.C. Maxwell and much more.

YOU ryantg continue to post superficially.

Let me remedy your problem right now.


When Einstein asserted that nothing was faster than the speed of light - he was comparing light to electromagnetic emissions, that is, Hertzian waves based on the conventional Maxwell equations.

However, our present-day Maxwell equations are not the original Maxwell equations:

http://vacuum-physics.com/Maxwell/maxwell_oplf.pdf (http://vacuum-physics.com/Maxwell/maxwell_oplf.pdf)

On the modified Maxwell equations:

" ... In discarding the scalar component of the quaternion, Heaviside and Gibbs unwittingly discarded the unified EM/G [electromagnetic/ gravitational] portion of Maxwell's theory that arises when the translation/directional components of two interacting quaternions reduce to zero, but the scalar resultant remains and infolds a deterministic, dynamic structure that is a function of oppositive directional/translational components. In the infolding of EM energy inside a scalar potential, a structured scalar potential results, almost precisely as later shown by Whittaker but unnoticed by the scientific community. The simple vector equations produced by Heaviside and Gibbs captured only that subset of Maxwell's theory where EM and gravitation are mutually exclusive. In that subset, electromagnetic circuits and equipment will not ever, and cannot ever, produce gravitational or inertial effects in materials and equipment.

"Brutally, not a single one of those Heaviside/ Gibbs equations ever appeared in a paper or book by James Clerk Maxwell, even though the severely restricted Heaviside/Gibbs interpretation is universally and erroneously taught in all Western universities as Maxwell's theory.


A true electromagnetic wave does not fall off as the distance from the source increases, that is, it is immune to the inverse square law of the usual Hertz waves.



http://web.archive.org/web/20071006083222/http://www.wbabin.net/science/tombe4.pdf (http://web.archive.org/web/20071006083222/http://www.wbabin.net/science/tombe4.pdf)

Abstract. Maxwell’s 1864 paper ‘A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic
Field’ abandons the theory of molecular vortices that was a central feature of his
1861 paper ‘On Physical Lines of Force’. Even after writing part I of his 1861
paper, Maxwell realized that a purely hydrodynamical approach to
electromagnetic theory is insufficient, and so he introduced electrical particles
and gradually shifted over to a more dynamical approach.
This article investigates whether or not any physics was lost as a result of
Maxwell abandoning his theory of molecular vortices. The focus of attention is
centred on equation (5) of his 1861 paper, as this equation contains components
that can be demonstrated to simultaneously represent both the Coriolis force and
the Lorentz force, therefore implying that the Lorentz force is a kind of Coriolis
force. Since a rotating frame of reference is needed for a Coriolis force, it follows
that the Lorentz force must depend entirely on the rotating aethereal substance
within Maxwell’s vortex cells. The conclusion is that Maxwell made a serious
error when he abandoned his theory of molecular vortices, and that the physical
explanation for the Lorentz force was lost as a result.


Let me stress this fact most strongly.  After Maxwell's death a single man - Oliver Heaviside - directly altered Maxwell's equations, eliminating localized electrogravitation and producing the form of the theory taught throughout the West today as "Maxwell's theory."
     Maxwell's theory has never been taught in Western universities!  Only Heaviside's crippled subset of the theory has been taught!

Then, shortly before the turn of the century , a short, sharp "debate" erupted in a few journals - mostly in the journal Nature.  Only about 30 scientists took part in the "debate."

    It wasn't really much of a debate!  The vectorists simply steam- rolled right over the remaining quaternionists, sweeping all opposition before them.
    They simply threw out the remaining vestiges of Maxwell's quaternion theory, and completely adopted Heaviside's interpretation.
    Thus, a little over a decade later when Einstein wrote his general relativity theory , he did not know that the original work of Maxwell already indicated the unification of gravitation and electromagnetics, and indicated the ease with which local spacetime could be electrogravitationally curved locally and engineered.
    Accordingly, he placed the scientists of the West on a road which rigorously assumed that a unified field theory was yet to be discovered.  It also strongly discouraged any experimentation aimed at curving local spacetime, for it assumed that such could not be done.


YOU ryantg are among those misguided scientists who use ONLY the modified Maxwell equations.


ryantg PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING VERY CAREFULLY.

The biography of Dr. Stephen Phillips.

DR STEPHEN PHILLIPS earned his Ph.D. at the University of California, where he also taught mathematics and physics. In 1979 one of his scientific papers was published, proposing a theory that unified particle interactions and predicted that quarks are not fundamental (as most physicists currently believe) but are composed of three more basic particles ('subquarks') which, may have since been detected at FermiLab, high-energy physics laboratory near Chicago in America. He has lectured on his research at the Cavendish Laboratory of Cambridge University.


A century-old claim by  two early leaders of  the Theosophical
Society to have used a form of ESP to observe subatomic particles is evaluat-
ed. Their observations  are  found  to be consistent with  facts  of  nuclear
physics and with the quark model of particle physics provided that their as-
sumption that they saw atoms is rejected.  Their account of the force binding
together the fundamental constituents of  matter is shown to agree with the
string model.  Their description of these basic particles bears striking similar-
ity to basic ideas of superstring theory.  The implication  of  this remarkable
correlation between ostensible paranormal  observations of subatomic parti-
cles and facts of nuclear and particle physics is that quarks are neither funda-
mental nor hadronic states of superstrings, as many physicists  currently as-
sume, but, instead, are composed of three subquark states of a superstring.


Given that the gaps in the periodic table represented by these anticipated un-
stable elements were known to Besant & Leadbeater, how can we be sure that
their descriptions were based upon real  objects and were not fabricated  ac-
cording  to their expectations?
Knowing which  groups of  the periodic  table
these  undiscovered  elements belong  to could  have  enabled them  to  deduce
what shape their atoms ought to have, having decided upon a rule to link atom-
ic shapes to groups. But the values of  the atomic weights of  these elements
were unknown to science at the time when Besant and Leadbeater published
observations of them and yet the "number weights" (defined shortly) that they
calculated for  these  elements  agree with  their  chemical atomic  weights  to
within one unit.
It is highly implausible that this measure of agreement could
have  come about by  chance in  every case. Furthermore, analysis (Phillips,
1994) of the particles reported to have been observed in the supposed atoms of
these elements undiscovered by science at the time reveals such a high degree
of agreement with the theory presented in this paper to explain micro-psi ob-
servations of atoms that neither deliberate fabrication nor hallucinations influ-
enced by knowledge of the gaps in the periodic table are realistic explanations
of these elements being examined before their scientific discovery.
  These two
considerations strongly suggest that the descriptions by Besant and Leadbeat-
er of the supposed atoms of these elements must have been based upon physi-
cal objects, for there is simply no more plausible alternative that can explain
such a measure of agreement.


The fact that elements in the same subgroup of a group of the periodic table do not always
occur in the same subgroup of the micro-psi  version of this table is inconsis-
tent with what one would expect if  Besant and Leadbeater  had been merely
guided by their knowledge of chemistry to fabricate the correlation. Secondly,
how could hallucinations, whose cause was located entirely inside their brains
and not outside amongst the trillions of atoms in all the chemicals they exam-
ined, generate UPA populations in MPAs that always turned out to be about 18
times the correct atomic weights of their elements?
  This is true, remarkable,
even for elements like francium and astatine, whose atomic weights must have
been unknown to Besant and Leadbeater because science discovered them in,
respectively,  1939  and  1940,  about seven years  after the deaths of  the two
Theosophists. How, if  MPAs  are not atoms, could they have anticipated  in
1908 - five years before scientists suspected the existence of isotopes
- the
fact that an element such as neon could have more than one type of  atom, an
MPA, moreover, whose calculated number weight of 22.33 is consistent with
their having detected with micro-psi the neon-22 nuclide before the physicist
J. J. Thomson discovered it in  1913? One must turn to particle physics for an-
swers.




This paper has presented evidence (summarized in Table 3) of how facts of
nuclear and particle physics are consistent with purported psychic descriptions
of subatomic particles.  It is because Besant and Leadbeater finished their ob-
servations many years before pertinent scientific knowledge became available
that their work cannot be rejected  as fraudulent once this consistency is ac-
cepted.  Nor can critics plausible interpret their observations as precognitive
visions of future ideas and discoveries of  physics.  If  this had been the case, Besant and Leadbeater might reasonably have been expected to describe atoms according to the Rutherford-Bohr model. The nuclear model of the atom was
formulated by Rutherford in 1911, two years after they concluded their main
investigation of MPAs. Yet none of its features can be found in their publica-
tions. Instead of being atoms, as would be expected if micro-psi faculty were
actually precognition, MPAs are more exotic objects which, as Figure 5 shows,
have  compositions and  UPA  populations indicating  that  they consist of  the
constituent quarks and subquarks or two atomic nuclei of  an element.  This
makes  them more  akin  to what  nuclear physicists  call  "compound nuclei,"
which are formed in high-energy physics laboratories by the collision and brief
fusion  of  two  very  fast-moving  nuclei. Moreover, precognition would  not
have led Besant and Leadbeater to portray some chemical molecules such as
methane and benzene in a way that conflicts with chemistry.  If they had used
merely  precognition, they  would never have observed four MPAs for which
atomic theory can provide no corresponding element; they would have record-
ed only MPAs of known elements.

The fact that most of their descriptions of MPAs were  published  several  years  before  physicists even suspected  that atoms had nuclei excludes the possibility  of their fraudulent use of scientific knowledge about the composition of nuclei in terms of protons, neutrons and mass numbers because no such information existed then, Chadwick discovering  the  neutron  in  1932, twenty-four years  after  the first  edition  of  Occult
Chemistry  appeared.  No normal or alternative paranormal explanation  of the
correlation between modern physics and their ostensible 100-year old obser-
vations  of  subatomic  particles appears  to exist  other  than that  Besant  and
Leadbeater genuinely described aspects of the microscopic world by means of
ESP, albeit one disturbed by the act of paranormal observation.

EACH AND EVERY ELEMENT AND ISOTOPE PREDICTED WITH 100% ACCURACY.

A clear and absolute proof that everything I have posted is true.

ESP OF QUARKS AND STRINGS, 1999, DR. STEPHEN PHILLIPS

http://books.google.ro/books?id=5Qgfx4bXkT4C&pg=PA33&dq=esp+of+quarks+and+strings&hl=ro&sa=X&ei=rM3FUMTSM4b14QT264GYAw&redir_esc=y#v=snippet&q=neutrino&f=false (http://books.google.ro/books?id=5Qgfx4bXkT4C&pg=PA33&dq=esp+of+quarks+and+strings&hl=ro&sa=X&ei=rM3FUMTSM4b14QT264GYAw&redir_esc=y#v=snippet&q=neutrino&f=false)



HISTORICAL EVIDENCE, QUARKS AND STRINGS:

http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_09_4_phillips.pdf (http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_09_4_phillips.pdf)



FARCE OF MODERN PHYSICS:

http://davidpratt.info/farce.htm (http://davidpratt.info/farce.htm)


OCCULT CHEMISTRY, the work copied by Dirac, Gell-Mann, Higgs and many others:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/oc/pdfindex.htm (http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/oc/pdfindex.htm)



As for the lizard thread, all of you now know exactly what is going on: the reptilian bloodline descendants are the ones who invented the round earth theory, who falsified the entire history prior to 1825 ad, and who currently run Nasa.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: RyanTG on June 17, 2013, 07:43:42 AM
1) Only 12 of the 20 maxwell equations were altered and they were improved.
2) I refuse to read a paper that claims to be able to detect "strings" and "quarks" through extra-sensory perception; a paranormal based pseudoscience.
3)

"A true electromagnetic wave does not fall off as the distance from the source increases, that is, it is immune to the inverse square law of the usual Hertz waves."

Why are you classifying as a "Hertz wave"? And what are you classifying as a "true" electromagnetic wave? Because the EM radiation emitted from the sun experiences the inverse square law, so do all the stars and galaxies in the universe.

4)You are claiming all physics used, not in Western countries may I add but all over the planet, is demonstrably fictitious and as evidence for this you give links to unfathomably dubious websites, not journals, not scientific studies (that do not use ESP -.-) and by authors who's named i've never even heard of and who don't even show up in google searches.

I would rather not carry on this conversation, especially since you continue to regurgitate the same copy and pasted paragraphs and links with about 5% of the nonsense you post actually being your own writing.

As for the lizard thread, all of you now know exactly what is going on: the reptilian bloodline descendants are the ones who invented the round earth theory, who falsified the entire history prior to 1825 ad, and who currently run Nasa.

It seems that you are also delusional or have some permutation of a mental illness, so on those grounds I would rather not continue this. Please seek medical help, thank you.

Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: squevil on June 17, 2013, 01:13:28 PM
yes because it is a stupid idea. seriously dude you should drop the act from time to time before you cant post up here.

You should go tell sandokhan that.

yes that will get far wouldnt it. it takes a special kind of person to get the label; flat earth believer. you should read his stuff from time to time, he is the copy paste master.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: sandokhan on June 20, 2013, 05:32:11 AM
ryantg, your whimsical belief in the theory of relativity is a certain sign of delusion.

Do you understand where you are and what is being discussed here?

Only 12 of the 20 maxwell equations were altered and they were improved.

Have you lost your mind ryantg?

In discarding the scalar component of the quaternion, Heaviside and Gibbs unwittingly discarded the unified EM/G [electromagnetic/ gravitational] portion of Maxwell's theory that arises when the translation/directional components of two interacting quaternions reduce to zero, but the scalar resultant remains and infolds a deterministic, dynamic structure that is a function of oppositive directional/translational components. In the infolding of EM energy inside a scalar potential, a structured scalar potential results, almost precisely as later shown by Whittaker but unnoticed by the scientific community. The simple vector equations produced by Heaviside and Gibbs captured only that subset of Maxwell's theory where EM and gravitation are mutually exclusive. In that subset, electromagnetic circuits and equipment will not ever, and cannot ever, produce gravitational or inertial effects in materials and equipment.

Maxwell's original equations, which unite electromagnetism and gravity, were simply MUTILATED by both Heaviside and Lorentz.

To acclaim such a brutal deletion of terms as an "improvement" means you have lost your mind.

Heaviside "streamlined" Maxwell's original equations down to four simple (if woefully incomplete!) expressions. Because Heaviside openly felt the quaternions were "an abomination" -- never fully understanding the linkage between the critical scalar and vector components in Maxwell's use of them to describe the potentials of empty space ("apples and oranges," he termed them) -- he eliminated over 200 quaternions from Maxwell's original theory in his attempted "simplification."

You are no scientist ryantg, do not kid yourself.

Heaviside actually felt that Maxwell's use of quaternions and their description of the "potentials" of space was "... mystical, and should be murdered from the theory ..." which -- by drastically editing Maxwell's original work after the latter's untimely death (from cancer), excising the scalar component of the quaternions and eliminating the hyperspatial characteristics of the directional (vector) components -- Oliver Heaviside effectively accomplished singlehanded.

As a result of this artificial restriction of Maxwell's theory, Einstein also inadvertently restricted his theory of general relativity, forever preventing the unification of electromagnetics and relativity.


ryantg, Maxwell's original equations show that terrestrial gravity is a form of electricity and Whittaker's 1903 and 1904 papers (the first was titled "On the partial differential equations of mathematical physics" (Mathematische Annalen, Vol. 57, 1903, p.333-335); the second, "On an Expression of the Electromagnetic Field due to Electrons by means of two Scalar Potential Functions" (Proceedings of the London Mathematical Society, Vol.1, 1904, p. 367-372) do demonstrate that electromagnetic waves travel in two simultaneous directions in the scalar potential of the vacuum.

You simply have never done your homework to understand these issues.

http://www.gsjournal.net/old/science/tombe.pdf (http://www.gsjournal.net/old/science/tombe.pdf)

DOUBLE HELIX THEORY OF THE MAGNETIC FIELD


The biography of Dr. Stephen Phillips.

DR STEPHEN PHILLIPS earned his Ph.D. at the University of California, where he also taught mathematics and physics. In 1979 one of his scientific papers was published, proposing a theory that unified particle interactions and predicted that quarks are not fundamental (as most physicists currently believe) but are composed of three more basic particles ('subquarks') which, may have since been detected at FermiLab, high-energy physics laboratory near Chicago in America. He has lectured on his research at the Cavendish Laboratory of Cambridge University.

HISTORICAL EVIDENCE, QUARKS AND STRINGS:

http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_09_4_phillips.pdf (http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_09_4_phillips.pdf)


Do you speak English ryantg?

Given that the gaps in the periodic table represented by these anticipated un-
stable elements were known to Besant & Leadbeater, how can we be sure that
their descriptions were based upon real  objects and were not fabricated  ac-
cording  to their expectations? Knowing which  groups of  the periodic  table
these  undiscovered  elements belong  to could  have  enabled them  to  deduce
what shape their atoms ought to have, having decided upon a rule to link atom-
ic shapes to groups. But the values of  the atomic weights of  these elements
were unknown to science at the time when Besant and Leadbeater published
observations of them and yet the "number weights" (defined shortly) that they
calculated for  these  elements  agree with  their  chemical atomic  weights  to
within one unit. It is highly implausible that this measure of agreement could
have  come about by  chance in  every case.
Furthermore, analysis (Phillips,
1994) of the particles reported to have been observed in the supposed atoms of
these elements undiscovered by science at the time reveals such a high degree
of agreement with the theory presented in this paper to explain micro-psi ob-
servations of atoms that neither deliberate fabrication nor hallucinations influ-
enced by knowledge of the gaps in the periodic table are realistic explanations
of these elements being examined before their scientific discovery.  These two
considerations strongly suggest that the descriptions by Besant and Leadbeat-
er of the supposed atoms of these elements must have been based upon physi-
cal objects, for there is simply no more plausible alternative that can explain
such a measure of agreement.

The fact that elements in the same subgroup of a group of the periodic table do not always
occur in the same subgroup of the micro-psi  version of this table is inconsis-
tent with what one would expect if  Besant and Leadbeater  had been merely
guided by their knowledge of chemistry to fabricate the correlation. Secondly,
how could hallucinations, whose cause was located entirely inside their brains
and not outside amongst the trillions of atoms in all the chemicals they exam-
ined, generate UPA populations in MPAs that always turned out to be about 18
times the correct atomic weights of their elements?  This is true, remarkable,
even for elements like francium and astatine, whose atomic weights must have
been unknown to Besant and Leadbeater because science discovered them in,
respectively,  1939  and  1940,  about seven years  after the deaths of  the two
Theosophists. How, if  MPAs  are not atoms, could they have anticipated  in
1908 - five years before scientists suspected the existence of isotopes - the
fact that an element such as neon could have more than one type of  atom, an
MPA, moreover, whose calculated number weight of 22.33 is consistent with
their having detected with micro-psi the neon-22 nuclide before the physicist
J. J. Thomson discovered it in  1913? One must turn to particle physics for an-
swers.



Rest assured ryantg, P. Higgs, M. Gell-Mann, P. Dirac, the creators of string theory read the Occult Chemistry: their discoveries were simply copied from this incredible book on quarks and strings.

There is no nonsense in my messages, not ever; so far, I have demonstrated precisely that at the present time you only some 10% of what a true scientist should know.
Title: Re: Lizardman appearance
Post by: RyanTG on June 20, 2013, 05:45:18 AM
You do understand that string theory has yet to be demonstrably proven due to extremely small theorised scales of the strings and the planck length?

I don't see how you can base your entire philosophical around a yet unproven, untested hypothesis. The framework has a strictly mathematical foundation and after reading your post about how irrational numbers don't exist, I'm positive you wouldn't agree with the mathematical derivation.

You also keep alluding to the fact that me and many others only have "10% knowledge" on the subject at hand. You do understand you are most likely the only person, if not part of a handful of people on this planet right now who subscribes to this idiosyncratic and unproven belief?

If I am not a true scientist and only obtain a small portion of knowledge on the subject then so does every single scientist on this planet.

Sandokhan, please stop submitting your works to an online forum and submit your works to a journal, a university or a research centre and let them critique what you've wrote.