The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth General => Topic started by: EarthIsFlatFRFR on January 17, 2024, 02:12:10 PM
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I get that the earth is flat, but I don't get why the government would work so hard to hide it
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I get that the earth is flat, but I don't get why the government would work so hard to hide it
The point is you couldn’t hide it. Like the sun wouldn’t set on a flat earth. Lunar eclipses wouldn’t be possible.
It would take every aspect of the society to hide the truth. Everyone world wide from amateur astronomers, civilian sailors, civilian pilots, and satellite dish installers.
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That's clearly false seeing as it is currently being faked those poor people are just convinced via mind control vaccines/fluoride to believe what they are seeing. If the earth isn't flat why don't people just roll off of the edge? If the earth isn't flat then how are radio signals able to pass all the way through the earth to the other side?
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Answered earlier in another thread.
Hello tipper, welcome to FES.
They are lying for that sweet sweet space money.
NASA earns roughly $24 billion, as of 2022. Even if they had 100,000 employees, they can afford to pay each one more than many workers in the US make in ten years.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/nasas-budget-was-24b-in-2022-heres-how-it-spends-the-money/
Think about that. While many Americans (myself included) were basically stuck at home, it was deemed big and important that NASA kept doing the round Earth things it was doing.
If we say that flat Earth is fraud, then it becomes egregious and offensive misuse of funds. While regular people get poorer and poorer due to income taxes, these people claim a lie and show doctored videos, and get paid enormous amounts to misinform the public. Basically, there's money made here, and how it's made directly hurts the public and greatly distorts their view of the world.
Now let me be clear. I do not mind individuals deciding the Earth is flat or round or hollow or pyramid. I would object to flat Earth being a universal, just as I object to RE being universal. It's the monopoly on though that bothers me. That flat Earthers can expect to get shouted down not only at web forums like this one but in academic circles means that NASA and the like continue to make huge amounts of money. And people continue to buy this shill, even though globalism controls their lives. The woke pseudoscientific system of globalism exerts tyranny through its climate change limits on resource use and its open borders. In other words, they are not content with stealing the money of the populace, their goal extends to power over the lives and freedoms of others.
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NASA earns roughly $24 billion, as of 2022.
And in order to fake it they would need to spend much much more.
Conversely, the US black budget is roughly $50 billion and has no accountability to the public.
Why not just take that?
And even if Earth was flat, NASA would still be able to get founded to do things in space above the disc.
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not with the assistance of foreign countries who are in on the conspiracy, and all the billionaires in on it to. Now that I think about it even if there isn't a net positive of money coming from it I'm sure that they are willing to pay that price in order to control the world, and make that money, and more, from it.
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Brainwashing to keep something ticking along is easy with the human race.
We are programmed like all animals to simply follow patterns or routines.
It's not difficult for those running the show to have us believe anything.
We are all rooted in one area and are treated to moving pictures or still pictures or writings about what we are told to believe anything is or was.
To prove something to be true or false we have to find out physically and we are all shepherded onto routes so it's a hard job to veer from them, as we all know.
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I get that the earth is flat, but I don't get why the government would work so hard to hide it
Forcing people to obey is the main reason. Like avoiding questioning. One aspect of the matter is that NASA generates more than 20 billion dollars of dirty money every year through fake space flights and does shady things in the world with it. But these are claims, you know.
The truth of the matter is that if the earth is a sphere, there is no oxygen outside the atmosphere, and you need to have a budget like NASA to reach here, and there is no place left to see in the world, which will give you the impression that you are in captivity. In this case, you believe everything that people who deceive you in the name of pseudo-science say and support every lie of NASA. This is one of the basic steps in adapting you to the global slavery system. Projects that follow this, such as global warming, kidnapping our children and taking their blood or killing them, generation Z project are efforts to adapt humanity to slavery and create fear and anxiety.
Knowing that the world has continents beyond Antarctica and that the underground is not just magma, human beings will research in every direction, and no country can prevent this desire to research and learn. This means the collapse of their plans to enslave people.
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not with the assistance of foreign countries who are in on the conspiracy, and all the billionaires in on it to. Now that I think about it even if there isn't a net positive of money coming from it I'm sure that they are willing to pay that price in order to control the world, and make that money, and more, from it.
And those foreign countries would likewise have to be spending money to fake it.
Saying Earth is round doesn't give them any control over Earth or the people in it.
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NASA earns roughly $24 billion,
The earth was treated like the sphere it is long before NASA.
Celestial Navigation
https://newcreeations.org/flat-earth-theory/
The only way the math required for accurate celestial navigation positions works out the way we calculate it is because the earth is spherical. If the earth was flat like some believe, celestial navigation would be based on plane trigonometry instead of spherical trigonometry. And if that were the case, I would be explaining to you that the earth must be flat. But it’s not. It’s a sphere.
Math does not lie. Nor does it have an agenda.
Therefore, the fact that the spherical trigonometry based math required for celestial navigation produces accurate determinations of one’s position on the earth is definitive proof that the earth is spherical.
Celestial navigation truly makes proponents of the flat earth model look silly.
Or navigation on earth and grate circle paths.
Reality…
(https://i.imgur.com/xstYicl.jpeg)
https://www.esquireme.com/culture/travel-culture/40006-inside-the-worlds-first-20-hour-airline-flight
Vs flat earth lie…
(https://i.imgur.com/0d6bUgm.jpg)
Or slant range for radar is a thing because of spherical earth
"The M5 gun director" to a platform.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_(military)#Example
Wonder what calculations went with the M5 when used for targeting…
The M5 director is used to determine or estimate the altitude or slant range of the aerial target.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_(military)#Example
Slant Range?
New term to kick around?
Slant Range
https://www.radartutorial.eu/01.basics/Slant%20Range.en.html
(https://www.radartutorial.eu/01.basics/pic/slantrange.png)
However, this would only be valid if the earth were a flat disk. In addition, however, the earth's radius also has an effect, as shown in figure 3. Thus, the actual topographic distance concerning the slant distance measured by the radar depends on:
the measured slant range,
the actual height of the aim, and
the earth radius, which is valid for the location of the radar unit.
(https://www.radartutorial.eu/01.basics/pic/height3.gif)
From figure 3 one can see the solution approach. A triangle between the points: Center of the earth, the location of the radar unit, and the location of the flight target, whose sides defines the cosine theorem and thus by the equation:
R2 = re2 + (re + H)2 - 2re(re + H) · cos α
(re is the equivalent radius of the earth).
Under the assumption that the earth is a sphere, from the angle α, the part of the earth's circumference can be calculated with a simple ratio calculation from the total earth circumference:
360° · Rtopogr. = α · 2π re
This partial section of the earth circumference can be regarded as an approximation (here still without consideration of the refraction) to the actual topographic distance.
In practice, however, the propagation of electromagnetic waves is also subject to refraction, i.e. the transmitted beam of the radar is not a rectilinear side of this triangle, but this side is additionally also curved depending on
the transmitted wavelength,
the barometric pressure,
the air temperature and
the atmospheric humidity.
Since all these parameters cannot be included in the radar video map, the map is inevitably inaccurate if the radar software does not take into account the relationship between slant range and topographic range. And this is unfortunately always the case with 2D radar devices since these lack the height information compellingly necessary for these computations!
Didn’t see anything about visually adjusting for the fucking delusional parabola….
Lots of technology has to take in account the earth is spherical because the earth really is spherical.
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Forcing people to obey is the main reason.
And how does the shape of Earth impact that?
One aspect of the matter is that NASA generates more than 20 billion dollars
In what way is it dirty?
Because you don't believe them, even though they have contributed some quite significant technology to the world?
The truth of the matter is that if the earth is a sphere, there is no oxygen outside the atmosphere, and you need to have a budget like NASA to reach here, and there is no place left to see in the world, which will give you the impression that you are in captivity.
Which still leaves open the possibility of other planets.
As opposed to the FE, where you live on a tiny disc with nothing outside.
In this case, you believe everything that people who deceive you in the name of pseudo-science say
No. Believing Earth is round doesn't mean you magically believe everything they say.
For a fact so easily verifiable, it would actually lead to massive distrust as soon as it is shown to be wrong.
Just like so many FEers basically reach a point of not trusting anything which doesn't fit their beliefs.
Knowing that the world has continents beyond Antarctica and that the underground is not just magma, human beings will research in every direction, and no country can prevent this desire to research and learn. This means the collapse of their plans to enslave people.
Most people don't want to live underground.
And if Antarctica is already quite harsh, why would they want to go beyond.
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I get that the earth is flat, but I don't get why the government would work so hard to hide it
Forcing people to obey is the main reason. Like avoiding questioning. One aspect of the matter is that NASA generates more than 20 billion dollars of dirty money every year through fake space flights and does shady things in the world with it. But these are claims, you know.
Could it also be the hiding of materials currently unknown to the common man?
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not with the assistance of foreign countries who are in on the conspiracy, and all the billionaires in on it to. Now that I think about it even if there isn't a net positive of money coming from it I'm sure that they are willing to pay that price in order to control the world, and make that money, and more, from it.
If you haven't noticed, there are a ton of signed countries in the Antarctic Treaty. If you're a major country with a large military/science complex or close to the southern area of Earth, you've probably signed. Not even a lost fishing boat can really get away with wandering that far south.
There is plenty of money coming into it, but the money doesn't matter really, as money itself is a control system. You earn money, then pay taxes on it year after year thanks to dumb people supporting income tax. The people in control though are sadists, liking human suffering as a better currency.
Could it also be the hiding of materials currently unknown to the common man?
I think natural resources are a bigger agenda.
Even assuming the goal of hiding this is benign (I doubt it), such as protecting resources from excessive raiding, there is something incredibly patronizing about being told what lands you can and can't explore. But yeah, we do kinda overharvest metals and oils and everything else. If it weren't benign, we have a bunch of people (?) trying to trap us in an artificial cage.
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If you haven't noticed, there are a ton of signed countries in the Antarctic Treaty.
Which has nothing to do with major industries that from day to day save money by treating the earth like the sphere it is.
Again…
Reality…
(https://i.imgur.com/xstYicl.jpeg)
https://www.esquireme.com/culture/travel-culture/40006-inside-the-worlds-first-20-hour-airline-flight
Distance and flight paths that make sense on a glob. Distances verified by actual air speed and travel time.
Vs flat earth lie…
(https://i.imgur.com/0d6bUgm.jpg)
Where the most efficient time would be a straight line. Where distance south the equator would keep getting longer and longer as you travel south. Not the reality of the radius of the earth getting smaller and smaller as one kept traveling south of the equator as witnessed on a sphere.
FLAT EARTH IS DEBUNKED
As proven by numerous everyday observations.
Ever draw out how a lunar eclipse is possible of a flat earth…..
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there is something incredibly patronizing about being told what lands you can and can't explore.
If you have the money. You can fly or sail anywhere in national waters.
If you have the money you can take a trip to Antarctica.
The government owns your right to fly, and if you ever try to say... explore Antarctica, your pilot's license is stripped.
Shrugs…
EXPEDITION
OCEAN NOVA - 78 GUESTS
ANTARCTICA EXPRESS AIR-CRUISE
ANTARCTICA EXPEDITION
Our Antarctica Express Air-Cruise was designed for travelers looking for a quick and affordable visit to the White Continent. This expedition offers you the chance to visit Cape Horn, cruise the Drake Passage, land in Antarctica, and fly back.
https://www.epicpolar.com/epictemplate.php?rno=494
Try to go explore Iran, and let us know how that works out for you.
There are many examples just in the USA of restricted forests for protection.
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If you haven't noticed, there are a ton of signed countries in the Antarctic Treaty. If you're a major country with a large military/science complex or close to the southern area of Earth, you've probably signed. Not even a lost fishing boat can really get away with wandering that far south.
Is that why Japanese whaling vessels never go there? Oh wait, they do.
Again, you are lying about the Antarctic treaty.
There is plenty of money coming into it, but the money doesn't matter really, as money itself is a control system.
So you are saying the RE is NOT the control system.
Which raises the question of why say Earth is round?
Do you think they wouldn't be able to have taxes if Earth was flat?
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I get that the earth is flat, but I don't get why the government would work so hard to hide it
Forcing people to obey is the main reason. Like avoiding questioning. One aspect of the matter is that NASA generates more than 20 billion dollars of dirty money every year through fake space flights and does shady things in the world with it. But these are claims, you know.
Could it also be the hiding of materials currently unknown to the common man?
I reckon they are hiding the fact that there is more land over the Antarctica Iced walls, why else is Antarctica heavily guarded ?
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there is something incredibly patronizing about being told what lands you can and can't explore.
If you have the money. You can fly or sail anywhere in national waters.
If you have the money you can take a trip to Antarctica.
The government owns your right to fly, and if you ever try to say... explore Antarctica, your pilot's license is stripped.
Shrugs…
EXPEDITION
OCEAN NOVA - 78 GUESTS
ANTARCTICA EXPRESS AIR-CRUISE
ANTARCTICA EXPEDITION
Our Antarctica Express Air-Cruise was designed for travelers looking for a quick and affordable visit to the White Continent. This expedition offers you the chance to visit Cape Horn, cruise the Drake Passage, land in Antarctica, and fly back.
https://www.epicpolar.com/epictemplate.php?rno=494
Try to go explore Iran, and let us know how that works out for you.
There are many examples just in the USA of restricted forests for protection.
On tours to Antarctica they only take you to the edges, there is no way they would allow you to go any further on to the Iced walls. This really pisses me off as beyond or through the iced walls there is more land (extra -terrestrial ).
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A picture is worth a thousand words (but I'll explain anyway).
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/62/1d/67/621d67b5318aac58012bf59f91412415.jpg)
Great, now I want you to imagine this paved over top with a ball where we can't even stand up properly, while the Earth heaves and spins at a frenetic pace, while we are one tiny part of a universe that doesn't care for us. This is the world Jack Black and Data and all of the servants of the Void in NASA will sell us on. A world of loneliness, hatred, and ultimately death. Oh yeah, and after a certain number of years, all heat in the universe will burn out. When a force is literally crushing us to the ground before we cease to exist entirely.
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I want you to imagine a world alive with Jesus's love. Where there actually is peace among all the nations, where there new life to the dead, and where sickness of all sorts can be healed. Where the Earth is still and it cannot be moved. An eternal world built upon God's love. A world that is suited for life, where the entire surface of Earth is built upright for humans who walk upright. The Romans and the Jewish elites made an alliance long ago (two thousand years, to be exact) where they would cover over these events, hide the fact that Jesus is risen and that there is no second coming, because there is no need for a second coming, because Jesus is among us. Yes, there is money to be gained. Yes, NASA gets some sweet merch out of all of this. But the real reason for the Not Actual Science Administration is to hide the real science one gets from studying this world, that energy far surpasses entropy, and matter far outnumbers antimatter, to the point where antimatter is only really existing in terms of death, and if we humans really wanted to, we could overcome that. Oh yeah, and the variety of life in this Earth is a statistical anomaly as the big uncaring universe presented by RE heliocentric model presents a dead universe that cares nothing for us, in sharp contrast to the billions of humans, literally millions of other species on this Earth.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110823180459.htm
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why else is Antarctica heavily guarded ?
It isn't. That is just a lie FEers keep on repeating to keep their fantasy going.
The most significant "guarding" is done by anti-whaling vessels, specifically targeting whaling vessels.
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Great, now I want you to imagine this paved over top with a ball where we can't even stand up properly
So imagine your pathetic strawman of the RE; completely disconnected from the real round Earth model, and by extension reality.
A fantasy nothing like what people like me accept as real.
A world of loneliness, hatred, and ultimately death. Oh yeah, and after a certain number of years, all heat in the universe will burn out. When a force is literally crushing us to the ground before we cease to exist entirely.
i.e. you can't handle reality and escape to a fantasy?
I want you to imagine a world alive with Jesus's love. Where there actually is peace among all the nations
i.e. a fantasy with no connection to reality?
You aren't showing an alleged benefit to hiding the shape of Earth.
All you are doing is showing you don't like reality and want to cling to a fantasy.
That just shows how ridiculous your position is.
You may as well have lost a leg and just blindly refuse to believe that.
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On tours to Antarctica they only take you to the edges,
What’s this tour?
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Or this?
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https://www.polar-quest.com/trips/antarctica/fly-to-the-south-pole-20232024
Anyone staying over night with a camera could figure out if they were at the South Pole.
(https://i.natgeofe.com/n/80c94e88-a8ef-4c70-a736-1ebd02c97b26/77822.jpg?w=826&h=550)
Star trails seen during the Antarctic winter over the Harker Glacier on the island of South Georgia.
PHOTOGRAPH BY SAM CRIMMIN, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC YOUR SHOT
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/140319-antarctica-big-bang-inflation-telescope-south-pole-astronomy
More FE goal post moving?
Anyway. FYI. Star trails at the equator.
(https://i0.wp.com/vivekphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Celequator.jpg?w=1000&ssl=1)
https://vivekphoto.com/2018/12/08/celestial-equator/amp/
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The purpose is to see which humans are smart enough to debunk the government's lies to society.
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They are not only hiding the fact that the earth is flat, they are also hiding God, if you want the truth read Genesis 1.
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They are not only hiding the fact that the earth is flat, they are also hiding God, if you want the truth read Genesis 1.
Sure, because an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient being can be hidden by mere mortals.
Your god sounds great.
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They are not only hiding the fact that the earth is flat, they are also hiding God, if you want the truth read Genesis 1.
Sure, because an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient being can be hidden by mere mortals.
Your god sounds great.
He is great.
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They are not only hiding the fact that the earth is flat, they are also hiding God, if you want the truth read Genesis 1.
Sure, because an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient being can be hidden by mere mortals.
Your god sounds great.
He is great.
If your god is incapable of preventing mere mortals from hiding it, then it isn't great, it is pathetic; as if it doesn't exist; as if it is just the invention of long dead people.
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They are not only hiding the fact that the earth is flat, they are also hiding God, if you want the truth read Genesis 1.
Sure, because an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient being can be hidden by mere mortals.
Your god sounds great.
He is great.
If your god is incapable of preventing mere mortals from hiding it, then it isn't great, it is pathetic; as if it doesn't exist; as if it is just the invention of long dead people.
This is God testing us to see who see who believes his word & who doesn't, So he allows Satan to do his job & hide the true earth. In fact in these last days God is allowing Satan to do more than just deceive us about the earth.
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This is God testing us to see who see who believes his word & who doesn't, So he allows Satan to do his job & hide the true earth. In fact in these last days God is allowing Satan to do more than just deceive us about the earth.
And how do you know it isn't testing you to see if you will accept pure BS from old dead people that they used to control others?
How do you know that Satan hiding the truth isn't actually what produced Christianity or the Bible?
Maybe God is trying to find out which people are gullible fools that will accept the nonsense of the Bible and FE preachers, vs which ones will show rational thought and look at the evidence and accept reality (that Earth is round)?
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This is God testing us to see who see who believes his word & who doesn't, So he allows Satan to do his job & hide the true earth. In fact in these last days God is allowing Satan to do more than just deceive us about the earth.
Maybe God is trying to find out which people are gullible fools that will accept the nonsense of the Bible and FE preachers, vs which ones will show rational thought and look at the evidence and accept reality (that Earth is round)?
He knows who the gullible fools are & aint the flat earthers.
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He knows who the gullible fools are
The people who believe an ancient book full of crap?
The people that need to reject so much evidence to pretend Earth is flat?
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He knows who the gullible fools are
The people who believe an ancient book full of crap?
The people that need to reject so much evidence to pretend Earth is flat?
If the truth hit you in the face you'd just turn the other cheek.