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Title: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 12:32:53 PM: To all FEer's

At one point in your life you would have been exposed to something that made you say 'Damn you are right, the world is flat!!'

What was that?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on August 31, 2008, 12:35:44 PM: I was exposed to FES. That make me believe the Earth is flat.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on August 31, 2008, 12:38:56 PM: The FES has been toiling for many years to reveal a deep conspiracy at the heart of modern civilisation. I find these efforts admirable, so I paid attention. Their accumulated evidence is what convinced me that FES was something worth sticking with.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 12:42:33 PM: Prof GC - that response just makes you sound like you are easily lead.

Matrix - thanks but was was the evidence that you were exposed to to make you say 'Yes, Now I'm convinced?
I am open minded but you are presenting me with nothing.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Sir_Drainsalot on August 31, 2008, 12:44:34 PM: Quote from: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 12:42:33 PM
Prof GC - that response just makes you sound like you are easily lead.

Why do you believe the earth is round?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on August 31, 2008, 12:51:23 PM: Gobsmacked - I appreciate where you're coming from; you want me to say "Well I was like you once until I read this post (http://xkcd.com/404)" but sadly that moment never happened for me.

You see, I've been here a couple of months now getting to know all these guys. I've seen the same arguments get trotted out over and over and still take part in them. But I'm still here.

Isn't that evidence of something in itself?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Oscar Wilde on August 31, 2008, 12:51:41 PM: That's an interesting corollary; what made you suddenly believe that the earth is a whirling globe hurtling through space?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 12:58:06 PM: I obviously have not been into space. I have never been to either pole.

I have been exposed to photographs, TV programs etc that educates people that the Earth is round. You say it is all a cover up yet you cannot give any reasons why except - and I will quote from your FAQ 'The motive is unknown although it is probably money'.

You cannot show any clear cut evidence to counter the Round Earth theory. So as a sensible human being I will be more prone to go with the evidence that has more back up. Just as happens in any court of law, debate etc.

The side that can produce the most evidence generally is the side I would believe.

I am not here to make fun or to ridicule. I'm just curious as to why you believe the Earth is flat and what convinced you. If your claims are true then show your evidence and as yet, unfortunately, no one has.

Regards
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Sir_Drainsalot on August 31, 2008, 01:01:39 PM: Quote from: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 12:58:06 PM
I obviously have not been into space. I have never been to either pole.
I have been exposed to photographs, TV programs etc that educates people that the Earth is round

So in other words, you just believe what youve been told.

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You cannot show any clear cut evidence to counter the Round Earth theory. So as a sensible human being I will be more prone to go with the evidence that has more back up. Just as happens in any court of law, debate etc.

Define "clear cut evidence"
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The side that can produce the most evidence generally is the side I would believe

"Generally" being the key word.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on August 31, 2008, 01:02:23 PM: Just for reference, I never claimed the Earth was flat. What I specifically said was that FES (Flat Earth Society) was worth sticking with. You seem like a reasonable, intelligent person so I'll let you know now that at least 95% of the people here do not believe the Earth is flat. If you have a look through some of the threads (esp. in 'angry ranting' or the infamous stickied 'gravity' thread) you will find why there are so many people here.

Just don't tell anyone I told you.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on August 31, 2008, 01:13:01 PM: Quote from: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 12:42:33 PM
Prof GC - that response just makes you sound like you are easily lead.

Says. I'm not the one who thinks the Earth is round cos the easily faked pictures say so.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on August 31, 2008, 01:14:30 PM: Quote from: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 12:58:06 PM
I have been exposed to photographs, TV programs etc that educates people that the Earth is round. You say it is all a cover up yet you cannot give any reasons why except - and I will quote from your FAQ 'The motive is unknown although it is probably money'.

Actually, the FAQ has a very important link in it that you probably missed. For most people the belief that the earth is flat begins with the obvious observation that it appears flat, but there is actually even stronger evidence that it's not round.

Earth Not a Globe (http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/index.htm)

This book presents evidence that the surface of standing water cannot possibly be convex. Many FEers have duplicated the experiments on their own and gotten the same results. Don't worry, you don't have to read the whole thing; the experiments at the beginning of the book are the ones that prove the earth is flat.

You see, FEers believe there is a Conspiracy because it can be demonstrated that the earth is flat. I guess this would be the evidence you've been missing.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 01:17:59 PM: DrainCoverLover, I know what you are getting at here. I think I have explained my stance.

If you are a FE'er then you must have just believed what you have been told also as I am assuming you have never been in a position to see the flatness of the Earth with your own eyes.

If you were to give me a good reason why the worlds governments would want to cover this all up (and thats why they have drilled the Round Earth theory into us) then I maybe able to weigh up both sides equally. But, 'probably money' seems a lazy reason.

What convinced you? That was the point of the thread after all.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 01:23:01 PM: Roundy thanks that is very interesting. I shall read more over the next few days.

What is your theory as to why Governments would cover up a flat earth?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on August 31, 2008, 01:26:52 PM: Well not the governments, but the space agencies in order to get lots of money for doing not much more than faking a few photos and videos.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on August 31, 2008, 01:30:17 PM: Exactly. The governments as a whole have little, if any, involvement. NASA, for example, is duping the American government into believing they have a legitimate space program so they can get all that dirty funding. It stands to reason that it would cost a lot less to fake a space program than to actually have one.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 01:35:08 PM: Could they not do the same with a flat earth?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: roundiesunite on August 31, 2008, 01:52:32 PM: Quote from: Matrix on August 31, 2008, 12:51:23 PM

Isn't that evidence of something in itself?
evidence that your an idiot.

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Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 01:56:29 PM: Someone earlier said there was an ice wall that you would reach if you headed south from any point on our earth. Why has no one flown next to or over or even close enough to see whats over the other side?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on August 31, 2008, 03:13:08 PM: Quote from: roundiesunite on August 31, 2008, 01:52:32 PM
evidence that your an idiot.

Irony incarnate.

You fail.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: cmdshft on August 31, 2008, 03:23:02 PM: Quote from: roundiesunite on August 31, 2008, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: Matrix on August 31, 2008, 12:51:23 PM

Isn't that evidence of something in itself?
evidence that your an idiot.

Enjoy your B&.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Fletch on August 31, 2008, 11:39:26 PM: Quote from: Hara Taiki on August 31, 2008, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: roundiesunite on August 31, 2008, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: Matrix on August 31, 2008, 12:51:23 PM

Isn't that evidence of something in itself?
evidence that your an idiot.

Enjoy your B&.
Bampersand? ;)
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Gobsmacked on September 01, 2008, 04:57:39 AM: I'd like to get back to the original question please.

To all FEer's

At one point in your life you would have been exposed to something that made you say 'Damn you are right, the world is flat!!'

What was that?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Fletch on September 01, 2008, 05:53:50 AM: In my experience changes of any core beliefs are a gradual process and due to a culmination of things.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Atheist Antagonist on September 01, 2008, 07:34:00 PM: Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on August 31, 2008, 01:14:30 PM
This book presents evidence that the surface of standing water cannot possibly be convex.

So there is no such thing as a drop of water? Because that's essentially what the Earth's oceans are (according to RET): a gigantic drop of salt water surrounding the rocky crust of the Earth, with the exception of the continents. If you look at it from a more distant perspective like that, you will notice that the oceans are not actually standing water at all. Not only are they basically a drop of water, they have currents as well and are therefore in constant movement. So they defy every possible definition of "standing water". In addition, presuming that the author's argument is just an observation of water in a still container or on a flat surface, the reason for the flat surface would be gravity. Due to the nature of gravity, there is no actual up or down in space, only "in" towards concentrations of matter (read:objects). The water on Earth is only strongly affected by the gravitational pul of Earth itself, which pulls it evenly inward to form a roughly spherical shape. The only other object that has a major effect on the oceans but not the rest of the Earth is the Moon, which causes the tides.

Well, then. I've contradicted a whole lot of FET doctrine just now, haven't I?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Fletch on September 01, 2008, 11:59:03 PM: Quote from: Atheist Antagonist on September 01, 2008, 07:34:00 PM
Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on August 31, 2008, 01:14:30 PM
This book presents evidence that the surface of standing water cannot possibly be convex.

So there is no such thing as a drop of water? Because that's essentially what the Earth's oceans are (according to RET): a gigantic drop of salt water surrounding the rocky crust of the Earth, with the exception of the continents. If you look at it from a more distant perspective like that, you will notice that the oceans are not actually standing water at all. Not only are they basically a drop of water, they have currents as well and are therefore in constant movement. So they defy every possible definition of "standing water". In addition, presuming that the author's argument is just an observation of water in a still container or on a flat surface, the reason for the flat surface would be gravity. Due to the nature of gravity, there is no actual up or down in space, only "in" towards concentrations of matter (read:objects). The water on Earth is only strongly affected by the gravitational pul of Earth itself, which pulls it evenly inward to form a roughly spherical shape. The only other object that has a major effect on the oceans but not the rest of the Earth is the Moon, which causes the tides.

Well, then. I've contradicted a whole lot of FET doctrine just now, haven't I?
Way to totally misinterpret a sentence.

If you go to a large body of water, say a lake, on a totally windless day, so that the surface of it is entirely still, and you look across it, on a Round Earth you would be able to measure the curve. The experiments listed in this book show that you cannot.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/index.htm
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on September 02, 2008, 09:39:07 PM: Quote from: Atheist Antagonist on September 01, 2008, 07:34:00 PM
Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on August 31, 2008, 01:14:30 PM
This book presents evidence that the surface of standing water cannot possibly be convex.

So there is no such thing as a drop of water? Because that's essentially what the Earth's oceans are (according to RET): a gigantic drop of salt water surrounding the rocky crust of the Earth, with the exception of the continents. If you look at it from a more distant perspective like that, you will notice that the oceans are not actually standing water at all. Not only are they basically a drop of water, they have currents as well and are therefore in constant movement. So they defy every possible definition of "standing water". In addition, presuming that the author's argument is just an observation of water in a still container or on a flat surface, the reason for the flat surface would be gravity. Due to the nature of gravity, there is no actual up or down in space, only "in" towards concentrations of matter (read:objects). The water on Earth is only strongly affected by the gravitational pul of Earth itself, which pulls it evenly inward to form a roughly spherical shape. The only other object that has a major effect on the oceans but not the rest of the Earth is the Moon, which causes the tides.

Well, then. I've contradicted a whole lot of FET doctrine just now, haven't I?

Wow, way to misinterpret! You should take a look at what the book actually says before passing a judgment like that.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: astronomy101 on September 03, 2008, 01:12:20 PM: The fact that FET is cool. No kids in school believe it.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: zeroply on September 04, 2008, 02:03:22 PM: Quote from: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 12:32:53 PM
To all FEer's

At one point in your life you would have been exposed to something that made you say 'Damn you are right, the world is flat!!'

What was that?

For me, it was when I realized that I was getting my science information from the same government that believes abstinence-only sex ed works, and the war on drugs can be won.

If they're that misguided, they're probably wrong about the shape of the earth too.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: JohnBreckman007 on September 04, 2008, 02:53:22 PM: Quote from: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 12:32:53 PM
To all FEer's

At one point in your life you would have been exposed to something that made you say 'Damn you are right, the world is flat!!'

What was that?

The Bible and my parents both say it's flat and I feel in my heart it is flat and that God is there.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Fletch on September 04, 2008, 09:21:10 PM: Quote from: JohnBreckman007 on September 04, 2008, 02:53:22 PM
The Bible and my parents both say it's flat and I feel in my heart it is flat and that God is there.
I'm keen to read the quote in the bible that says the world is flat. Can you point that out to me, please.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: cmdshft on September 04, 2008, 09:26:05 PM: Quote from: Fletch on September 04, 2008, 09:21:10 PM
Quote from: JohnBreckman007 on September 04, 2008, 02:53:22 PM
The Bible and my parents both say it's flat and I feel in my heart it is flat and that God is there.
I'm keen to read the quote in the bible that says the world is flat. Can you point that out to me, please.

Here you go: Source (http://www.answering-christianity.com/earth_flat.htm)
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: zeroply on September 04, 2008, 09:26:14 PM: Quote from: Fletch on September 04, 2008, 09:21:10 PM
Quote from: JohnBreckman007 on September 04, 2008, 02:53:22 PM
The Bible and my parents both say it's flat and I feel in my heart it is flat and that God is there.
I'm keen to read the quote in the bible that says the world is flat. Can you point that out to me, please.

Daniel 4:11 - "The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth"

The only way you can have a tree that's tall enough to be seen all over the earth is for the earth to be flat. If the Earth was a sphere, no matter how tall you made the tree, there would be people on the other side who could not see it.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Parsifal on September 04, 2008, 10:13:15 PM: Quote from: Hara Taiki on September 04, 2008, 09:26:05 PM
Here you go: Source (http://www.answering-christianity.com/earth_flat.htm)

Some of those quotes show a total lack of understanding of metaphors. Either that, or it suits their interpretation better to ignore what are likely metaphors.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Fletch on September 04, 2008, 11:50:07 PM: Quote from: zeroply on September 04, 2008, 09:26:14 PM
Daniel 4:11 - "The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth"

The only way you can have a tree that's tall enough to be seen all over the earth is for the earth to be flat.
Not only that but the earth has to be about a dozen square miles in size. And heaven has to be really close to the ground.

Adding to Steve's post, any bible texts that aren't obvious metaphors?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: zeroply on September 05, 2008, 06:36:12 AM: Quote from: Fletch on September 04, 2008, 11:50:07 PM
Quote from: zeroply on September 04, 2008, 09:26:14 PM
Daniel 4:11 - "The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth"

The only way you can have a tree that's tall enough to be seen all over the earth is for the earth to be flat.
Not only that but the earth has to be about a dozen square miles in size. And heaven has to be really close to the ground.

Adding to Steve's post, any bible texts that aren't obvious metaphors?

No, there was less atmospheric pollution back then and people had better eye sight. Come on, they lived to be hundreds of years old, why couldn't they have had good eyes?

Four corners has been used in other literature to describe an entire area, so I'll give Steve that. That's why I restricted myself to Daniel. If the Earth were really round, how come Jesus didn't know that? He wouldn't have used that metaphor knowing that in a few thousand years it would be used by websites to discredit his words.

So any Bible text that agrees with my viewpoint is an obvious metaphor, but anything that agrees with yours is to be taken literally? You'd make a wonderful addition to the John Birch society.

Also, thanks for noticing that the Bible says heaven has to be close to the ground, not tens of thousands of miles away. Bingo.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 05, 2008, 06:45:32 AM: :-\
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Fletch on September 05, 2008, 02:38:30 PM: Quote from: zeroply on September 05, 2008, 06:36:12 AM
Also, thanks for noticing that the Bible says heaven has to be close to the ground, not tens of thousands of miles away. Bingo.
It says the tree reached the heavens. How tall do you think they grew back then? And do you really think people could see thousands of miles then, but it's not possible now?

Jesus told parables. Are they meant to be taken literally or were they story telling used to illustrate a point? I'm not using them to discredit his words, just to say that it doesn't mean the earth was literally flat.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: zeroply on September 05, 2008, 02:56:06 PM: Quote from: Fletch on September 05, 2008, 02:38:30 PM
Quote from: zeroply on September 05, 2008, 06:36:12 AM
Also, thanks for noticing that the Bible says heaven has to be close to the ground, not tens of thousands of miles away. Bingo.
It says the tree reached the heavens. How tall do you think they grew back then? And do you really think people could see thousands of miles then, but it's not possible now?

Jesus told parables. Are they meant to be taken literally or were they story telling used to illustrate a point? I'm not using them to discredit his words, just to say that it doesn't mean the earth was literally flat.

It's God we're talking about dude. I'm sure that if God can make a quasar then a really tall tree isn't that hard to do. Obviously a NATURALLY growing tree wouldn't be sufficient, they wouldn't be talking about that 2000 years later, would they? It would have to be something so tall anyone on the planet would immediately recognize that only God could have created it.

Why wouldn't people be able to see thousands of miles? How else could they see the tree? I mean, if they lived hundreds of years without MRI machines and antibiotics, they must have had fundamentally different bodies than we do now.

As to parables, I'm sure Jesus told many. This is from Daniel, which is Old Testament. Jesus wasn't around then.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Gobsmacked on September 05, 2008, 03:59:07 PM: The earth is flat =Nonsense
The bible=Nonsense

You can see what we are dealing with here!!
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Fletch on September 05, 2008, 05:24:57 PM: Quote from: zeroply on September 05, 2008, 02:56:06 PM
It's God we're talking about dude. I'm sure that if God can make a quasar then a really tall tree isn't that hard to do. Obviously a NATURALLY growing tree wouldn't be sufficient, they wouldn't be talking about that 2000 years later, would they? It would have to be something so tall anyone on the planet would immediately recognize that only God could have created it.

Why wouldn't people be able to see thousands of miles? How else could they see the tree? I mean, if they lived hundreds of years without MRI machines and antibiotics, they must have had fundamentally different bodies than we do now.

As to parables, I'm sure Jesus told many. This is from Daniel, which is Old Testament. Jesus wasn't around then.
I'm sure God can make a big tree. You know what's easier that that? This is the verse before which you didn't include in your quote:
4:10 Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great.

Easier than making a big tree is to make someone "dream/have a vision" of a big tree. That is not a bible quote which suggests the earth is flat. Do you have any more?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Fletch on September 05, 2008, 05:25:38 PM: Quote from: Gobsmacked on September 05, 2008, 03:59:07 PM
The earth is flat =Nonsense
The bible=Nonsense

You can see what we are dealing with here!!

If you don't want to be a part of this conversation, than please stay out of it.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Gobsmacked on September 07, 2008, 04:08:34 AM: Uhm, who started this thread, idiot!
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 07, 2008, 04:17:29 AM: You're all forgetting the verse right at the start of the whole thing:
0:1 - And lo, let it be known that this is all metaphorical, with pieces of history thrown in for good measure!

Hopefully that clears some of this up.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Jak08 on September 07, 2008, 12:15:19 PM: Gee.......this thread stayedon topic.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Parsifal on September 07, 2008, 02:25:05 PM: Quote from: Jak08 on September 07, 2008, 12:15:19 PM
Gee.......this thread stayedon topic.

No it didn't.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Fletch on September 07, 2008, 07:30:49 PM: Quote from: Gobsmacked on September 07, 2008, 04:08:34 AM
Uhm, who started this thread, idiot!
Apparently you did. I'm sure your parents are very proud.

And I think we're still on topic. The question was what convinced you the Earth was flat, and bible quotes came into it.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: zeroply on September 07, 2008, 08:56:09 PM: Quote from: Fletch on September 05, 2008, 05:24:57 PM
Quote from: zeroply on September 05, 2008, 02:56:06 PM
It's God we're talking about dude. I'm sure that if God can make a quasar then a really tall tree isn't that hard to do. Obviously a NATURALLY growing tree wouldn't be sufficient, they wouldn't be talking about that 2000 years later, would they? It would have to be something so tall anyone on the planet would immediately recognize that only God could have created it.

Why wouldn't people be able to see thousands of miles? How else could they see the tree? I mean, if they lived hundreds of years without MRI machines and antibiotics, they must have had fundamentally different bodies than we do now.

As to parables, I'm sure Jesus told many. This is from Daniel, which is Old Testament. Jesus wasn't around then.
I'm sure God can make a big tree. You know what's easier that that? This is the verse before which you didn't include in your quote:
4:10 Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great.

Easier than making a big tree is to make someone "dream/have a vision" of a big tree. That is not a bible quote which suggests the earth is flat. Do you have any more?

So you're saying God made this poor dude dream that the Earth was flat?

What kind of deceitful manipulative God are you worshipping? I feel sorry for you...
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Fletch on September 07, 2008, 09:37:05 PM: Quote from: zeroply on September 07, 2008, 08:56:09 PM
So you're saying God made this poor dude dream that the Earth was flat?

What kind of deceitful manipulative God are you worshipping? I feel sorry for you...
What?

I'm quoting the source you quoted that said the earth was flat. I pointed out that the full quote showed it was vision in a persons head.

Gen 37:09 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.

Does this mean Joseph was actually going to get the sun, moon and stars to obey him? No it was a dream with a meaning.

I still don't know what you are getting at in your last post.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: zeroply on September 08, 2008, 08:43:47 AM: Quote from: Fletch on September 07, 2008, 09:37:05 PM
Quote from: zeroply on September 07, 2008, 08:56:09 PM
So you're saying God made this poor dude dream that the Earth was flat?

What kind of deceitful manipulative God are you worshipping? I feel sorry for you...
What?

I'm quoting the source you quoted that said the earth was flat. I pointed out that the full quote showed it was vision in a persons head.

Gen 37:09 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.

Does this mean Joseph was actually going to get the sun, moon and stars to obey him? No it was a dream with a meaning.

I still don't know what you are getting at in your last post.

I'm just saying that this was a vision inspired directly by God, so it was a "constructed dream". It would have been pointless for God to include the part about being able to see the tree from the whole Earth, when he could have just as easily tweaked the dream so that the tree was visible from "all of X" where X actually makes sense.

Now Gen 37 is actually about a dream, but Daniel specifically mentions "vision", so you can't compare the two.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: GoodPoint on September 08, 2008, 05:55:20 PM: Quote from: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 12:32:53 PM
To all FEer's

At one point in your life you would have been exposed to something that made you say 'Damn you are right, the world is flat!!'

What was that?
It was probably because it would attract attention to the site. (They do say that the Round Earth Conspiracy is probably for money) ;)
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Fletch on September 09, 2008, 01:36:37 AM: Quote from: zeroply on September 08, 2008, 08:43:47 AM
I'm just saying that this was a vision inspired directly by God, so it was a "constructed dream". It would have been pointless for God to include the part about being able to see the tree from the whole Earth, when he could have just as easily tweaked the dream so that the tree was visible from "all of X" where X actually makes sense.

Now Gen 37 is actually about a dream, but Daniel specifically mentions "vision", so you can't compare the two.
Firstly how do you know it was inspired by God? Secondly, the specifics are that a man says he has a vision of a tree that reached into the heavens and could be seen by all the earth. What exactly do you think his vision was of? What was his frame of reference that allowed him to know all the earth could see the tree? Was he seeing this from space so he could see the entire earth? Was he atop the tree? How big do you think he thought the earth was?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 09, 2008, 02:57:53 AM: I move that any appeal to authority based on Biblical evidence is invalid based on the corruption of the collected works that contributed to the Bible's original text during the intervening translations and transliterations. Only the very broadest of messages can be relied upon, with the (lost/destroyed) original texts being required to allow any sort of reliable argument to be made.

The Bible is more like a sketch map than Google Earth - the landmarks are all there but don't expect to get the street names all right.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: zeroply on September 09, 2008, 06:45:53 AM: Quote from: Matrix on September 09, 2008, 02:57:53 AM
I move that any appeal to authority based on Biblical evidence is invalid based on the corruption of the collected works that contributed to the Bible's original text during the intervening translations and transliterations. Only the very broadest of messages can be relied upon, with the (lost/destroyed) original texts being required to allow any sort of reliable argument to be made.

Yet where the horribly shaky translation suits the purposes of the Christians, the Bible must be taken literally? "Almah" translates to a young girl who may or may not be a virgin, but that's unconditionally mistranslated to give us the idea of virgin birth.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Fletch on September 09, 2008, 03:33:46 PM: Quote from: zeroply on September 09, 2008, 06:45:53 AM
Yet where the horribly shaky translation suits the purposes of the Christians, the Bible must be taken literally? "Almah" translates to a young girl who may or may not be a virgin, but that's unconditionally mistranslated to give us the idea of virgin birth.
That's 'cause the "virgin birth" is wicked cool.

And which side are you on?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Xander on September 09, 2008, 10:46:15 PM: Quote from: Matrix on September 09, 2008, 02:57:53 AM
I move that any appeal to authority based on Biblical evidence is invalid based on the corruption of the collected works that contributed to the Bible's original text during the intervening translations and transliterations. Only the very broadest of messages can be relied upon, with the (lost/destroyed) original texts being required to allow any sort of reliable argument to be made.

The Bible is more like a sketch map than Google Earth - the landmarks are all there but don't expect to get the street names all right.

Amen to that!

Thanks to those who gave relevant answers to this post and did not turn it into a theological debate.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: zeroply on September 10, 2008, 03:16:36 PM: Quote from: Fletch on September 09, 2008, 03:33:46 PM
Quote from: zeroply on September 09, 2008, 06:45:53 AM
Yet where the horribly shaky translation suits the purposes of the Christians, the Bible must be taken literally? "Almah" translates to a young girl who may or may not be a virgin, but that's unconditionally mistranslated to give us the idea of virgin birth.
That's 'cause the "virgin birth" is wicked cool.

And which side are you on?

Like most Christians, I don't believe 100% of the Bible. I don't believe the parts about the virgin birth, the resurrection, Jesus being sent by God, most of Revelation, and other things. I believe in the flat earth parts though.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: David_Person on September 10, 2008, 03:19:02 PM: I know for a fact that the earth is NOT flat, because Jesus told me so, yesterday as we had afternoon tea. You should listen to that guy. He's a genius.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Fletch on September 11, 2008, 12:42:44 AM: Quote from: zeroply on September 10, 2008, 03:16:36 PM
Like most Christians, I don't believe 100% of the Bible. I don't believe the parts about the virgin birth, the resurrection, Jesus being sent by God, most of Revelation, and other things. I believe in the flat earth parts though.
This just got a lot more interesting. Do you believe God created ... well, everything? Do you believe he has the power to make anything happen? Apart from the flat earth parts (and are there that many of those?) what other parts do you believe in?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: veyron1001 on September 12, 2008, 07:15:15 PM: Quote from: zeroply on September 10, 2008, 03:16:36 PM
Quote from: Fletch on September 09, 2008, 03:33:46 PM
Quote from: zeroply on September 09, 2008, 06:45:53 AM
Yet where the horribly shaky translation suits the purposes of the Christians, the Bible must be taken literally? "Almah" translates to a young girl who may or may not be a virgin, but that's unconditionally mistranslated to give us the idea of virgin birth.
That's 'cause the "virgin birth" is wicked cool.

And which side are you on?

Like most Christians, I don't believe 100% of the Bible. I don't believe the parts about the virgin birth, the resurrection, Jesus being sent by God, most of Revelation, and other things. I believe in the flat earth parts though.

If the earth was flat the moon would be a new moon for about 15 days and 15 days it would be a full moon.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Parsifal on September 12, 2008, 07:21:29 PM: Quote from: veyron1001 on September 12, 2008, 07:15:15 PM
If the earth was flat the moon would be a new moon for about 15 days and 15 days it would be a full moon.

??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 14, 2008, 03:07:16 AM: Quote from: veyron1001 on September 12, 2008, 07:15:15 PM

If the earth was flat the moon would be a new moon for about 15 days and 15 days it would be a full moon.

:-\
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Oom19 on September 14, 2008, 10:40:24 AM: You FE'ers are masters at deflecting questions, give me a straight answer to the question the OP posted.

What evidence made you believe the earth is flat?

Solid modern scientific evidence, unbiased by religeon or assumptions.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Oscar Wilde on September 14, 2008, 10:46:45 AM: Rosebud.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Oom19 on September 14, 2008, 10:47:58 AM: Quote from: Oscar Wilde on September 14, 2008, 10:46:45 AM
Rosebud.

Nice try deflecting my question,

Give me evidence.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Mrs. Peach on September 14, 2008, 10:48:15 AM: I've just come in from my yard and it looked flat to me.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Oom19 on September 14, 2008, 10:50:28 AM: No, it looks flat till you hit the curve.

(I cant see any farther with my telescope than I can with my eyes)
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: John Jackson on September 14, 2008, 10:52:23 AM: Quote from: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 12:32:53 PM
To all FEer's

At one point in your life you would have been exposed to something that made you say 'Damn you are right, the world is flat!!'

What was that?

I saw with my own eyes (aided by binoculars, of course) that a watercraft's hull did not disappear before it's mast did.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Oom19 on September 14, 2008, 10:54:40 AM: How far did it travel? (a lake dosent work, only a trans-oceanic vessel would dissapear)
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: WardoggKC130FE on September 14, 2008, 10:55:30 AM: What about the Great Lakes?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: John Jackson on September 14, 2008, 11:03:47 AM: Quote from: Oom19 on September 14, 2008, 10:54:40 AM
How far did it travel? (a lake dosent work, only a trans-oceanic vessel would dissapear)

Why? According to RET, an object at a distance s (in statute miles) can be seen if i has height h (in feet) not less than h = 2*s²/3. A small boat has height not greater than 6 feet. Therefore, it should disappear after 3 miles for a person looking straight from the surface of the water. If the person is also 6 feet high, than we would need 3 more miles before the boat dissappears. 6 miles is a distance that is possible on many lakes.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Parsifal on September 14, 2008, 06:27:12 PM: Quote from: Oom19 on September 14, 2008, 10:40:24 AM
You FE'ers are masters at deflecting questions, give me a straight answer to the question the OP posted.

What evidence made you believe the earth is flat?

Solid modern scientific evidence, unbiased by religeon or assumptions.

I saw how stupid RE'ers like you are and decided I didn't want to count myself among them.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dead Kangaroo on September 14, 2008, 09:27:27 PM: (http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/973/50353552.JPG)
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Robbyj on September 14, 2008, 09:44:05 PM: When I found the ice wall.

(http://www.54candles.org/KiliIceWall.jpg)
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 16, 2008, 01:44:06 AM: OMG teh trooth is out!

Nice work Robby, I knew you wouldn't let us down. I take it you used your ninja skillz on the ice guards?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Robbyj on September 16, 2008, 02:21:40 AM: No, but I took a ninja with me. He's in the photo, you just can't see him.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 16, 2008, 02:36:46 AM: Cunning, cunning. Could you take Wardogg next time and lock him in a glacier?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Robbyj on September 16, 2008, 02:39:39 AM: That's what you get for argueing with a marine. You aren't goin to be able to convince him of anything he doesn't already know. ;)
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 16, 2008, 03:31:33 AM: I only wanted you to do that so I could use an Arnie-esque "Chill out" on him ;)
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: IdiotsTheseDays on September 16, 2008, 06:48:15 AM: Quote from: Matrix on August 31, 2008, 12:38:56 PM
The FES has been toiling for many years to reveal a deep conspiracy at the heart of modern civilisation. I find these efforts admirable, so I paid attention. Their accumulated evidence is what convinced me that FES was something worth sticking with.

So in other words, your a fucking idiot?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Parsifal on September 16, 2008, 06:51:56 AM: Quote from: IdiotsTheseDays on September 16, 2008, 06:48:15 AM
Quote from: Matrix on August 31, 2008, 12:38:56 PM
The FES has been toiling for many years to reveal a deep conspiracy at the heart of modern civilisation. I find these efforts admirable, so I paid attention. Their accumulated evidence is what convinced me that FES was something worth sticking with.

So in other words, your a fucking idiot?

Matrix is anything but an idiot. You lose.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: IdiotsTheseDays on September 16, 2008, 06:54:35 AM: dont tell me! he also believes in the matrix being real?!

All i need to say is, you think the world is flat, you lose/ fail at life!
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Parsifal on September 16, 2008, 06:56:29 AM: Quote from: IdiotsTheseDays on September 16, 2008, 06:54:35 AM
dont tell me! he also believes in the matrix being real?!

All i need to say is, you think the world is flat, you lose/ fail at life!

Confine this sort of posting to Angry Ranting, please.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: IdiotsTheseDays on September 16, 2008, 06:57:19 AM: Quote from: Osama bin Laden on September 16, 2008, 06:56:29 AM
Quote from: IdiotsTheseDays on September 16, 2008, 06:54:35 AM
dont tell me! he also believes in the matrix being real?!

All i need to say is, you think the world is flat, you lose/ fail at life!

Confine this sort of posting to Angry Ranting, please.

why dont you have a truth section? cos i think it would be fitting in there.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Parsifal on September 16, 2008, 06:57:48 AM: Quote from: IdiotsTheseDays on September 16, 2008, 06:57:19 AM
why dont you have a truth section? cos i think it would be fitting in there.

I'm not going to warn you again. It'll be a two day ban next time.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 16, 2008, 06:58:51 AM: Quote from: IdiotsTheseDays on September 16, 2008, 06:48:15 AM
Quote from: Matrix on August 31, 2008, 12:38:56 PM
The FES has been toiling for many years to reveal a deep conspiracy at the heart of modern civilisation. I find these efforts admirable, so I paid attention. Their accumulated evidence is what convinced me that FES was something worth sticking with.

So in other words, your a fucking idiot?

You really should read more carefully. Thanks Osama for the compliment, but even if I was a total retard it would not alter the fact that I didn't, at any point, say that FET was worth sticking with, but that FES was.

lrn2read, kthxbi
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 16, 2008, 07:02:35 AM: Quote from: IdiotsTheseDays on September 16, 2008, 06:54:35 AM
dont tell me! he also believes in the matrix being real?!

PS - anyone whose only exposure to the word 'matrix' is the film trilogy should lrn2math before calling people fucking idiots.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Parsifal on September 16, 2008, 07:03:54 AM: Quote from: Matrix on September 16, 2008, 07:02:35 AM
PS - anyone whose only exposure to the word 'matrix' is the film trilogy should lrn2math before calling people fucking idiots.

QFT
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: IdiotsTheseDays on September 16, 2008, 07:32:47 AM: Ok, so you made that name because, its a cool looking name? im sure the film made some kind of influence there.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 16, 2008, 07:36:47 AM: Quote from: IdiotsTheseDays on September 16, 2008, 07:32:47 AM
Ok, so you made that name because, its a cool looking name? im sure the film made some kind of influence there.

A film was an influence, but it's way way waaaaay better than any of the Matrix trilogy. Extra brownie points if you can figure out which film. Hint: I've given a big clue in this thread already.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: cmdshft on September 16, 2008, 12:45:14 PM: Quote from: Matrix on September 16, 2008, 07:36:47 AM
Quote from: IdiotsTheseDays on September 16, 2008, 07:32:47 AM
Ok, so you made that name because, its a cool looking name? im sure the film made some kind of influence there.

A film was an influence, but it's way way waaaaay better than any of the Matrix trilogy. Extra brownie points if you can figure out which film. Hint: I've given a big clue in this thread already.

A Dr. Who reference perhaps?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 16, 2008, 01:04:46 PM: Quote from: Hara Taiki on September 16, 2008, 12:45:14 PM
A Dr. Who reference perhaps?

Denied
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: globesphere93 on September 16, 2008, 01:30:34 PM: Quote from: Gobsmacked on August 31, 2008, 12:32:53 PM
To all FEer's

At one point in your life you would have been exposed to something that made you say 'Damn you are right, the world is flat!!'

What was that?

For most of these people, it was a hit on the head as a child.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 16, 2008, 01:37:14 PM: Quote from: globesphere93 on September 16, 2008, 01:30:34 PM
For most of these people, it was a hit on the head as a child.

Or when they looked up from doing your mum long enough to look out the window.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: cmdshft on September 16, 2008, 01:39:41 PM: Quote from: Matrix on September 16, 2008, 01:04:46 PM
Quote from: Hara Taiki on September 16, 2008, 12:45:14 PM
A Dr. Who reference perhaps?

Denied

Wow, I thought I had that one, too. Please PM me the answer.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Counter-Counter-Terrorist on September 16, 2008, 01:49:24 PM: Honestly. Since this is my first time posting, I believe the sheer asshole-ishness of the heathen Copernicus and the blasphemous concept of heliocentrism was my turning point.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 16, 2008, 01:52:52 PM: Quote from: Counter-Counter-Terrorist on September 16, 2008, 01:49:24 PM
Honestly. Since this is my first time posting, I believe the sheer asshole-ishness of the heathen Copernicus and the blasphemous concept of heliocentrism was my turning point.

Is your sig meant to be ironic, or that just another beautiful moment of internet hilarity blossoming before me?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on September 16, 2008, 01:57:13 PM: Canadians don't live in igloos?!
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 16, 2008, 01:58:59 PM: He had an image before, I guess he saw the stupidity in posting a failure-ridden tirade with a 800x600 "your shipment of failure has arrived" beneath it
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Counter-Counter-Terrorist on September 16, 2008, 02:04:54 PM: Quote from: Matrix on September 16, 2008, 01:58:59 PM
He had an image before, I guess he saw the stupidity in posting a failure-ridden tirade with a 800x600 "your shipment of failure has arrived" beneath it
Exactly. Yes, the sig is ironic. based simply on "it's a wonderful live" by digitalph33r.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on September 16, 2008, 02:06:10 PM: Quote from: Matrix on September 16, 2008, 01:58:59 PM
He had an image before, I guess he saw the stupidity in posting a failure-ridden tirade with a 800x600 "your shipment of failure has arrived" beneath it

oh I missed it :(
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Robbyj on September 16, 2008, 05:05:28 PM: Quote from: Matrix on September 16, 2008, 07:36:47 AM
A film was an influence, but it's way way waaaaay better than any of the Matrix trilogy. Extra brownie points if you can figure out which film. Hint: I've given a big clue in this thread already.

Commando!
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr Matrix on September 17, 2008, 02:02:58 AM: Quote from: Robbyj on September 16, 2008, 05:05:28 PM
Quote from: Matrix on September 16, 2008, 07:36:47 AM
A film was an influence, but it's way way waaaaay better than any of the Matrix trilogy. Extra brownie points if you can figure out which film. Hint: I've given a big clue in this thread already.

Commando!

WIN FOR ROBBY!!!!

Plus, well done for (hopefully) watching the film :)
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Robbyj on September 17, 2008, 02:05:23 AM: I've seen that dozens of times thanks to a thing called TBS.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Oscar Wilde on September 17, 2008, 02:07:11 AM: You mean Peachtree TV?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Robbyj on September 17, 2008, 02:10:16 AM: If peachtree is British for "all man movies, all the time", then yes.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Oscar Wilde on September 17, 2008, 02:11:39 AM: Didn't TBS change it's name again?
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Guessed on September 17, 2008, 06:21:35 AM: They sure did.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Robbyj on September 17, 2008, 06:28:30 AM: It's still TBS in the states, unless we are talking about two different things.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Parsifal on September 17, 2008, 07:52:46 AM: Quote from: Robbyj on September 17, 2008, 06:28:30 AM
It's still TBS in the states, unless we are talking about two different things.

No, that would be TDT.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Robbyj on September 17, 2008, 08:20:01 AM: I get it.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Oscar Wilde on September 17, 2008, 03:30:01 PM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peachtree_TV

^The Braves live here, apparently...
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: omnivacuity on September 17, 2008, 08:37:58 PM: Saw show on TV by some kinda FES (may not have been this one) where they claimed some girl (19 or so) went to the Antartic to find the edge. She just had her summer clothes (shorts) so decided not to get off the boat. Went back and got warm clothes. Returned to antartic and wandered off. When the boat returned for her the following year, a note saying she had found the edge was on her frozen corpse. I decided she must have been the most lonely child on the planet and I want to keep her company.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr. Lia Roidi Moore on September 21, 2008, 11:48:49 AM: I saw the edge once. Was years ago. I lost my wallet off it.

If the world was round then some peoples stuff would just fall up/down because I know im standing up now. I'm not falling up.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on September 21, 2008, 12:51:35 PM: I don't think you're really a Dr.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr. Lia Roidi Moore on September 21, 2008, 12:53:33 PM: I don't think you're really a cowgirl
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on September 21, 2008, 12:54:06 PM: I have cows and a vagina.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr. Lia Roidi Moore on September 21, 2008, 12:55:48 PM: I would like to have sex with both please. :-*
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on September 21, 2008, 01:11:03 PM: Alright, I can pencil you in for a 5pm appointment with the cow. The vagina is out to lunch.
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Dr. Lia Roidi Moore on September 21, 2008, 01:12:45 PM: I'd like to have lunch with your vagina!! mmm. can almost taste it 8)
Title: Re: What was the piece of evidence that convinced you that the Earth was flat?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on September 21, 2008, 02:09:44 PM: attackhoe?