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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Motivation......
« on: April 24, 2009, 08:56:14 AM »
welcome to the internets, full of bad grammar and people who dont give a shit ;O

Poor grammar is the internet equivalent of body odor.

What about people that use bad grammar and have body odour?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: New to Flat Earth
« on: April 24, 2009, 08:34:40 AM »
Can I assume you're happy to discuss how great it'd be to walk in on your mum sat on my face?

Reported for sexual harassment / bullying.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« on: April 24, 2009, 08:32:32 AM »
Where did I claim you were wrong?

Thankyou for agreeing that I am correct. Now as Robo says "GTFO".

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: If a tree falls in a forest...
« on: April 24, 2009, 08:30:38 AM »
When we are not looking, do things happen like they would if we were looking at them?  The answer is not at all obvious.  Even in modern science, the answer is not very certain.

I've already said, the question denies any kind of answer.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: RE Picture Proof
« on: April 24, 2009, 08:25:28 AM »
I am very well acquainted with the Equivalence Principle, thank you very much. Why do you ask?

As you've been told already, the equivelence principle only applies over small volumes and times. Like markjo says, not the whole earth.

So your argument that the equivelence principle can somehow be used to prove a flat earth is false.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: erm horizon?
« on: April 24, 2009, 08:21:33 AM »
Protip: Air is a fluid.

Unless you can show how fluid mechanics solves the problem (namely "Atmosphere is a gradient.") then you're wasting time.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: General Physics
« on: April 24, 2009, 08:19:54 AM »
I lol at the general incompetence in error analysis showed by both sides and the author of this paper.  Tom's arguments are quite epic.

Well as I suggested earlier, the error introduced in the final value is not linearly related to the error in the sample.

However, that's not worth even approaching since both Tom and Mathis have great difficulty in understanding percentage multiplication. This is a crippling mistake for a paper (by Mathis) which claims to illustrate the incacurracy (ie error) of the Cavendish experiment.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« on: April 23, 2009, 12:50:53 PM »
And it is your duty to back up your claim.

No I don't need to back anything up. It is you who is claiming I am wrong. Prove it.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: General Physics
« on: April 23, 2009, 12:49:43 PM »
Do you understand that a ten percent error, multiplied by a 3 percent error does not equal a thirty percent error?

That ten percent error is happening over and over again. Ergo, recurring. The 3 percent variable is a multiplier variable since the three percent is the rate at which the ten percent error recurs.

Oh dear. I'll take that as a "no".

If the period varied between 5 and 15, then the average would be 10 seconds, this would in fact be an average error of 2 percent. (Another failure). However, even then I'm confused. An error is usually expressed as a +/- value. 5 to 15 doesn't make much sense.


Anyway, how this error would feed into the final error of the result is more complicated. See the equations here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment

However, it still stands that a ten percent error multiplied by a three percent error is not a thirty percent error. The fact that neither you nor Miles Mathis understand this is irrellevent.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: New to Flat Earth
« on: April 23, 2009, 12:31:35 PM »
I beg to differ. Your ignorant posting style and aversion to research are supremely uninteresting.

Why are you attacking me? Is this the kind of welcome people get here?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: RE Picture Proof
« on: April 23, 2009, 12:30:24 PM »
The equivalence principle is mentioned, but not Robosteve's theory.

I'm confused. What's your point?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Gravity, according to an FEer
« on: April 23, 2009, 12:29:04 PM »
11777 to 56...who is punishing who?

Nobody is punishing anybody, you just happen to be a Punisher alt.

I thought levee raised some good points. Why can't you answer them instead of calling people names?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: New to Flat Earth
« on: April 23, 2009, 12:26:53 PM »
Hi, I am new to the flat earth society.

This post was unnecessary, your others make it clear enough.

I am only interesting in discussing all things. Please respect my wishes.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: RE Picture Proof
« on: April 23, 2009, 12:25:47 PM »
Before you comment on it, perhaps you should read it yourself. That isn't mentioned.

What isn't mentioned? The equivelence principle? So you're telling me to read something that bears no relation to the subject being discussed?

Nice.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« on: April 23, 2009, 12:24:08 PM »
Also, while your at it, explain how Newton's law of cooling describes the Earth as being spherical.

Why should I do your work for you?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: General Physics
« on: April 23, 2009, 12:21:22 PM »
Incorrect. The author describes the total multi-variable margin of error over multiple trial runs just fine. In the experiment the ten percent margin of error recurs with discrepancies of five to fifteen seconds in seven minutes. That means the total margin of error is recurring. Over extended trial runs the margin of error accumulates and therefore the variables can be multiplied.

Please educate yourself.

Do you understand that a ten percent error, multiplied by a 3 percent error does not equal a thirty percent error?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: RE Picture Proof
« on: April 23, 2009, 12:17:27 PM »
Do you know the equivalence principle onle applies over small volumes and times?

Without wanting to make massive, unfounded assumptions, have you even seen that there is an ENORMOUS thread on gravity stickied on the forums?  I believe you will find the equivalence principle is well understood round these parts.

It doesn't look like it from Robosteves post. Maybe he's the one that should read the Gravity sticking.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: If a tree falls in a forest...
« on: April 23, 2009, 11:49:27 AM »
The point of this mental exercise is to determine whether anything can actually occur without being observed.

And the answer is that question is self defeating, since determination would require some kind of observation.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: General Physics
« on: April 23, 2009, 11:39:07 AM »
Wrong. Read more. Post less.

The guy can't even work out proper margins of error! What a failure!

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: General Physics
« on: April 23, 2009, 11:35:35 AM »
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I'd say that article does nothing to refute the Cavendish experiment or other experiments that have measured G with different methods.

Actually the paper I linked demolishes the validity of the Cavendish Experiment pretty badly. It demonstrates that the experiment is entirely invalid.

I got suspicious when I read this:

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An apple weighs, what, 2 or 3 ounces?

Then I stopped reading when I read this:

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Those are two separate margins of error, so they have to multiply. Ten percent times 3 percent. That?s a thirty percent error.

It's all a load of idiotic babble.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: If a tree falls in a forest...
« on: April 23, 2009, 11:16:04 AM »
Here's a similar one from my professor:

A distant star turns into a supernova and no one or any devices was there to record it. We cannot observe it on Earth. Did the supernova occur?

Since you stated that it happened, then yes.

::)

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: RE Picture Proof
« on: April 23, 2009, 11:12:59 AM »
No, I've never learned that the Earth is actually pushing the air.

Combine your knowledge of fluid dynamics with the equivalence principle, the rest follows. Don't ask me to explain, I'm drunk.

Do you know the equivalence principle onle applies over small volumes and times?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« on: April 23, 2009, 11:08:17 AM »
All physics says the earth is spherical. Does this mean we close the site?

Please explain how Newton's first law of motion describes the Earth as being spherical.

Why should I have to do your work for you? Can you show that it doesn't?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: erm horizon?
« on: April 23, 2009, 11:06:43 AM »
erm. I doubt it. There's no fluid in motion in this situation.

I said "fluid mechanics", not "fluid dynamics". There's a big difference.

I doubt it. Unless you can show how fluid mechanics solves the problem (namely "Atmosphere is a gradient.") then you're wasting time.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Shouldn't space flight be EASIER in FE?
« on: April 23, 2009, 11:04:51 AM »
Physics is physics.

All physics says the earth is spherical. Does this mean we close the site?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: erm horizon?
« on: April 23, 2009, 11:00:45 AM »
Atmosphere is a gradient.

Wow. Just wow.

im gonna ask for the science behind that idea.. but im not gettin my hopes up..

Fluid mechanics.

erm. I doubt it. There's no fluid in motion in this situation.

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Flat Earth Q&A / New to Flat Earth
« on: April 23, 2009, 10:56:14 AM »
Hi, I am new to the flat earth society.

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