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Announcements / Re: I am back
« on: June 03, 2025, 10:15:19 PM »
Yeah we got it the first time, the dig is I'm a computer scientist and you think I'm a narcissist. The horse is dead, why do you keep beating it so much?
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The Lounge / Re: The Cooking Thread
« on: May 28, 2025, 07:45:50 PM »
I made a bouillabaisse. Its a bit dark as I cooked it for two days to deepen some of the flavors. A LOT of homemade crab stock, pasta stock, onions, fennel, shallot, garlic, leaks, san maranzo tomatoes, tomato paste, saffron, pernod, taragon, salt, pepper, bacon fat, parsley, lime, high quality butter; then lobster, just the best shrimp I've seen and mussels.
Oh and a few roosters crest pasta.
Probably should have had a white fish but it was pretty full on protein already. Picture on login on desktop. I'll add that to my list of things to fix.
Oh and a few roosters crest pasta.
Probably should have had a white fish but it was pretty full on protein already. Picture on login on desktop. I'll add that to my list of things to fix.
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Announcements / Re: I am back
« on: May 28, 2025, 06:40:40 PM »
I took a deeper look at the logs. It turns out its throwing an exception here.
Code: [Select]
try:
enable("SelfWorth")
disable("ExternalValidation")
upgrade("Boundaries")
except:
print("Compatibility with 'Wise' not implemented.")
apply("GracefulExit")
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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: So I don't want to program a stupid thing to ask you if you want to try the beta
« on: May 20, 2025, 12:02:49 PM »
Hrm, yeah not the most cognitive decision. Anyways that's not happening - the mod bit.
But yeah, still need a few folks to test stuff out, otherwise I'll just start doing it site wide or based on some other metric.
But yeah, still need a few folks to test stuff out, otherwise I'll just start doing it site wide or based on some other metric.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Pics of Another Sunrise Impossible on Flat Earth
« on: May 19, 2025, 10:42:37 PM »
You got to hold yourself to higher standard than these dunces brother.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Pics of Another Sunrise Impossible on Flat Earth
« on: May 19, 2025, 10:41:50 PM »
That's Rowbotham you fucking dunce. Dubay? He showed you can learn how to use Adobe Illustrator.
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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Day and night in different places on Earth at the same time; how is it possible?
« on: May 19, 2025, 09:43:22 PM »
What in the fucking ascii is going on with you mate? Zono, you are zono-ing out too fucking much. Jesus all-might -- mind you I am a religious man and I choose very few times to swear in my life -- y Christ.
Also, I usually put punctuation between them so they don't catch you when they check the books. Pro tip.
Yes! Society is built upon sharing common wealth.
Never believe the observations of others as truth. I wouldn't believe my own observations as truth, but alas, I am stoic in that way. It's why the guys hate me and the girls hate me.
I must tread these boards of knowledge, belting out proof after proof that everything is wrong and I am wrong too. That is the fickle nature of belief. The thin black and white line we all are trapeze artists on.
Remember the scientific revolution? No you don't. You still believe in a science of causes. Every fucking one of you. You frame all science in what causes something else, or you formalize it - which is exactly the same fucking thing.
Don't speak up you, but you're all cuties and we'll talk later.
Alright, back on track now, in the right timeline and all that. 2025 I hope.
Empiricism has value, but it can never have truth. But there might be a calculus of truth.
We wouldn't tell. Ancient Chinese Secret.
Also, I usually put punctuation between them so they don't catch you when they check the books. Pro tip.
Yes! Society is built upon sharing common wealth.
Never believe the observations of others as truth. I wouldn't believe my own observations as truth, but alas, I am stoic in that way. It's why the guys hate me and the girls hate me.
I must tread these boards of knowledge, belting out proof after proof that everything is wrong and I am wrong too. That is the fickle nature of belief. The thin black and white line we all are trapeze artists on.
Remember the scientific revolution? No you don't. You still believe in a science of causes. Every fucking one of you. You frame all science in what causes something else, or you formalize it - which is exactly the same fucking thing.
Don't speak up you, but you're all cuties and we'll talk later.
Alright, back on track now, in the right timeline and all that. 2025 I hope.
Empiricism has value, but it can never have truth. But there might be a calculus of truth.
We wouldn't tell. Ancient Chinese Secret.
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Suggestions & Concerns / So I don't want to program a stupid thing to ask you if you want to try the beta
« on: May 19, 2025, 09:30:26 PM »
So I don't want to program a stupid thing to ask you if you want to try the beta version of the site. Seems like a lot of work that could have been handled with an email.
Anyone want to be guinea pigs? Lab rats?
I'm going to add some new features soon; no I'm not going to make you talk with a 1990s drunk text filter. Unless you want that.
Also I'm making JackBlack a moderator.
Anyone want to be guinea pigs? Lab rats?
I'm going to add some new features soon; no I'm not going to make you talk with a 1990s drunk text filter. Unless you want that.
Also I'm making JackBlack a moderator.
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Flat Earth General / Re: A recent epigraph of Username
« on: May 19, 2025, 05:34:30 PM »Its actually a description by a world famous scientific expert of round earthers. Paul Feyerabend iirc. If you are interested I'll dig up the book.Quote"They won't listen. Do you know why? Because they have certain fixed notions ... Any change would be blasphemy in their eyes, even if it were the truth. They don't want the truth; they want their traditions."
This was a perfect depiction (intentional or not?) of flat-earthers. Who appeal to ancient civilizations that regarded the Earth as flat. Who quote the Book of Enoch as a reliable source.
While, on the other side:
Who breaks with the traditional idea of an Earth at the center of the universe? Copernicus.
Who breaks with the traditional idea of planets' orbits being necessarily circular? Kepler.
Who breaks with the traditional (Aristotelian) idea of bodies of different weight falling at different rates? Galileo.
Who introduces the totally non-traditional idea of action at a distance? Newton.
Who introduces the totally non-traditional idea of light being an undulation? Huygens.
Who breaks with the traditional theory of phlogiston? Lavoisier.
Who breaks with the traditional idea of animal species being fixed and immutable? Darwin.
Who breaks with the traditional idea of spontaneous generation of life? Pasteur.
Who breaks with the traditional idea of an absolute time? Einstein.
Who breaks with the traditional idea of geometry of space being necessarily Euclidean? Einstein, again (but already a century before the great mathematician Gauss had posed the question and had set out to measure the angles defined by three mountaintops, to see whether their sum was indeed 180°).
Who breaks with the traditional idea of a universe being static and basically unchanging with time? Hubble and Lemaître.
Not to mention quantum mechanics, where the traditional, natural and apparently self-evident idea that a particle, at any given time, has a definite position in space must be totally abandoned.
So now, WHO is desperately clinging to their traditions?
Indeed, that's why science is hated by so many. It disrupts traditional, comfortable ideas and beliefs. Like that nature is still an “out there”, stronger than us, against which we can manly fight without the fear of “toppling the boat” - that is, polluting the environment, destroying ecosystems, exhausting natural resources, altering the very climate of the planet. No more dreaming of ever bigger cars? No, it MUST be a conspiracy, like the Covid hoax, like the vaccine scam, like the 15-minutes cities, to keep us caged and controlled!
As so many times in history. Famines were caused by hoarders, plagues by “untori” (plague spreaders) or Jews, other natural calamities by some inconsiderate member of the community who had somehow offended the gods. It's always been highly comfortable to think that it's enough to get rid of the offender or to topple the conspiracy to get everything all right again.
If you read it through I'll even send you my personal copy.
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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Can the numbers game be pinned?
« on: May 19, 2025, 09:20:50 AM »
Done
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Technical Support / Re: BB Buttons Missing
« on: May 19, 2025, 09:19:27 AM »
Yes, it is a ridiculous amount easier for me to update the forums than previously or add new features. This will only become more and more the case as I start implementing in my codebase and removing smfs piece by piece.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Density doesnt make things go up or down, gravity does.
« on: May 17, 2025, 11:25:49 PM »
Also Cavendish was shite. And you know it I hope.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Density doesnt make things go up or down, gravity does.
« on: May 17, 2025, 11:25:18 PM »
It seems like there's a semantics match going on. So is gravity mass returning to mass or something else entirely?
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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth swallowed by the Sun.
« on: May 17, 2025, 11:21:03 PM »Interesting insight. Has anyone been to antichone?Eh, she wasn't my type; she was a bit too into death and defiance for my taste. Great at standing up to authority, terrible at dinner parties.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth swallowed by the Sun.
« on: May 17, 2025, 11:19:15 PM »
I'm very curious about this line:
3) Aether currents below the flat Earth conduct sunlight to the opposite side of the Earth plane, causing the Sun to simultaneously rise on one side and set on the other.
This is actually a theory put forth about 15 years ago around aetheric influence on light. I'd like to know more on your take, because we are all here trying to do the same thing - figure it out.
3) Aether currents below the flat Earth conduct sunlight to the opposite side of the Earth plane, causing the Sun to simultaneously rise on one side and set on the other.
This is actually a theory put forth about 15 years ago around aetheric influence on light. I'd like to know more on your take, because we are all here trying to do the same thing - figure it out.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What keeps us on the ground
« on: May 17, 2025, 11:16:20 PM »Weight is a force? It seems like its just the tendency of things to follow their natural trajectory.Force = mass * acceleration. Weight = mass * gravitational acceleration. Weight is a force.The force of my weight? What do you mean by that, because that sounds like inertia with extra steps.Let's say I'm in an elevator in the middle of space far away from any gravity. No windows. The elevator is accelerating upwards. What is holding me to the floor? My inertia countering the elevator rising.No. The normal force of elevator's floor counters the force of your weight due to the elevator's acceleration. Come now, you're supposed to be better than this.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
« on: May 15, 2025, 02:27:28 PM »Unfortunately, we don't have the technology to bioengineer animals. It would be fantastic, but we don't know enough about living things to do that. It would be completely unrealistic to think that humans have the technology to do this today. Realize that the ability to model living things like this would involve much more than just penguins.We have been bio-engineering animals since the beginning of time. Ever enjoy a steak? Or perhaps you are sitting next to your man's best friend.
Ludicrous. Not only that, but we do have the technology to bioenginer animals.GloFish. AquaAdvantage Salmon. Enviropig. Polled Cattle.
NASA even does it with their mighty mice.
This is ignoring the plethora of examples of man-made chimea such as the spider goat that could make web milk, or the human-pig chimeras they use in research for transplants. Plenty of clone and gene editing work on monkeys going on in China as well.
I have to wonder if you bring such shoddy arguments to the table because you know they are weak and have nothing else to support your laughable take or if you are just truly this ignorant or what you wish to argue against.
The idea such a beast would evolve by God's will itself has me slapping my knee so hard its left welts.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Dubay offers bounty on RE
« on: May 12, 2025, 02:06:55 PM »I don't share Dubay's commitment to veganism (the Zizians, and Hitler himself were at least vegetarian, and veganism means animals get put down since farms raise animals as part of their business). Nor do I agree with his stance on Judaism. He should stick to flat Earth, and not push Nazism.Honestly, his FE work isn't very impressive either from what I've read. His Flat Earth Conspiracy book is just a mix of copy pastes from our library uncredited uncited mixed with his own beyond ridiculous nonsense.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Dubay offers bounty on RE
« on: May 12, 2025, 02:05:44 PM »The issue is they treat science like dogma.Meaning that it would not be considered reasonable to doubt it.Settled science gets doubted and challenged all the time
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Flat Earth General / Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
« on: May 12, 2025, 02:04:29 PM »Never mind genetic engineered. We basically only ever see them in enclosures in zoos. How do we know that the land they supposedly exist in exists?I took the pictures early in the thread and can confirm they exist in South America. I was denied access to the Antarctic so could not verify that.
Quote
For that matter, how do we know they can survive in such a place? I mean, fur seems like it would work better than feathers for staying warm, and as best as I know, moving a polar bear south would likely kill it. Someone mentioned moving them to the Antarctic as response to the melting ice pictures (which it turns out is a hoax)The thing about penguins is they seem like they are almost engineered to survive the climate as portable food sources. Heavy in fat and protein, they are both well insulated and a walking army ration. They are dull witted, with records of early discoverers noting how they would just horde onto the boat to be slaughtered for meal. They also serve to harvest the natural fish and transform that to transferable energy that would otherwise be very problematic to do so in the climate.
https://newslog.cyberjournal.org/global-warming-fraud-iconic-polar-bear-on-melting-ice-cap-a-hoax/
and we got this article:
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/articles/questions/would-polar-bears-thrive-antarcticaQuoteIan - Polar bears would do very well if transplanted into the Antarctic - well at least for a few years. From a food point of view it would be polar bear heaven. In the Arctic the seals and other potential prey species have evolved lifestyles that minimises their risk of being eaten by polar bears but, in contrast, larger Antarctic animals such as seals and penguins have evolved without the risk of being eaten. Because of this the penguins are typically quite bold and inquisitive and will often approach you to have a look, and seals in the Antarctic range in behaviour from total indifference to outright aggression.Which further points out the oddity of all this. A bird with no survival instinct about avoiding predators?
You are quite right they can be bold if you aren't careful. You watch out for them bobbing their head back and forth; this is them sizing you up.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Dubay offers bounty on RE
« on: May 11, 2025, 12:39:20 AM »Forgot about this thread. Highlights Dubay is a con and douchebag.Yeah we all knew that here. Tfes.org tried to make him their president. Because Thork.
Yeah we weren't too keen on him since he did the music video where he said Hitler was a cool guy.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Dubay offers bounty on RE
« on: May 11, 2025, 12:37:43 AM »
That would be notable in 1890. What is that, like two tires of a car? And a banana?
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Flat Earth General / Ethically Sourcing Troling
« on: May 11, 2025, 12:29:17 AM »
We are very serious in our convictions, but we must also say - to any round earth trolls that appreciate the comedy that we are doing. You can do it here. It's a lot more fun on our side.
To those epistemologists lurking in the shadows - we see you. And the physics armchairs admiring our relativity takes. Or the Gaussians, enjoying our infinite plane mathematics. Or perhaps the Science Wars folks, that appreciate what we do. Or maybe you are those here for the deranged Wendy's esque comments.
We are The Flat Earth Society.
We are a home to all wayward thinkers. Its our raison d'etre. You need a home to troll? You are welcome brothers. You want to argue a discrete yet esoteric form of epistemology and philosophy of science? Want to say density is gravity for some reason? I don't get it, but yeah. We're here for you. Even if you say the earth is rising at 9.81m/s/s. I think we can all agree what the world needs now is more of that.
We will take any soldiers in the fight; this impossible quest - for the most impossible quest - as Godel points out - is knowledge of all.
We know we are intelligent because we know we know nothing. |
When the gauntlet is thrown to your feet will you be so brave to admit so little?
To those epistemologists lurking in the shadows - we see you. And the physics armchairs admiring our relativity takes. Or the Gaussians, enjoying our infinite plane mathematics. Or perhaps the Science Wars folks, that appreciate what we do. Or maybe you are those here for the deranged Wendy's esque comments.
We are The Flat Earth Society.
We are a home to all wayward thinkers. Its our raison d'etre. You need a home to troll? You are welcome brothers. You want to argue a discrete yet esoteric form of epistemology and philosophy of science? Want to say density is gravity for some reason? I don't get it, but yeah. We're here for you. Even if you say the earth is rising at 9.81m/s/s. I think we can all agree what the world needs now is more of that.
We will take any soldiers in the fight; this impossible quest - for the most impossible quest - as Godel points out - is knowledge of all.
We know we are intelligent because we know we know nothing. |
When the gauntlet is thrown to your feet will you be so brave to admit so little?
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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat earth questions
« on: May 10, 2025, 05:16:31 PM »There is historical basis for flat earthers believing in it due to biblicism. Many do today, you might have seen them on youtube. We subscribe to science here. I'm the president of the society, and here's an article in which I talk to it a bit.
https://www.pastemagazine.com/tech/a-conversation-with-a-flat-earth-believer
How do gravity and space function in the context of a flat Earth model?
Well there are many flat earth models.
In the relativistic model space is non-euclidean and gravity is simply travelling straight lines through curved space - geodesics.
In the UA model there is a universal accelerator that raises the earth and heavens up at 9.8m/s/s. A bowshock affect stops it from affecting near the surface. This causes the pull you feel downward to the ground. Its euclidean space.
The density folks think gravity is density. It doesn't work very well imo. Again euclidean space.
The infinite plane model has gravity from mass which turns out to be a finite gravitational pull of 9.8.1m/s/s depending on location due to Gauss' law.
$$
\begin{array}{l}
\text{S - The closed surface} \\
\text{A - Area} \\
\text{$\vec{n}$ - a normal unit vector} \\
\text{$g$, $\vec{g}$ - gravitational pull} \\
\text{m - mass} \\
\\
\oint_S \vec{g} \cdot \vec{n} \, dA = -4\pi G m \quad (1) \\
\\
\vec{g} \cdot \vec{n} = -g \\
\\
- g \oint_S dA = -4\pi G m \quad (2) \\
\\
- g \cdot 2A = -4\pi G m \quad (3) \\
\\
m = A \rho \quad \text{or} \quad \rho = \frac{m}{A} \\
\\
g = 2\pi G \rho \quad (4)
\end{array}
$$
\begin{array}{l}
\text{S - The closed surface} \\
\text{A - Area} \\
\text{$\vec{n}$ - a normal unit vector} \\
\text{$g$, $\vec{g}$ - gravitational pull} \\
\text{m - mass} \\
\\
\oint_S \vec{g} \cdot \vec{n} \, dA = -4\pi G m \quad (1) \\
\\
\vec{g} \cdot \vec{n} = -g \\
\\
- g \oint_S dA = -4\pi G m \quad (2) \\
\\
- g \cdot 2A = -4\pi G m \quad (3) \\
\\
m = A \rho \quad \text{or} \quad \rho = \frac{m}{A} \\
\\
g = 2\pi G \rho \quad (4)
\end{array}
$$
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The Lounge / Re: Been awhile.
« on: May 10, 2025, 05:10:26 PM »
I believe that was me you are remembering who tried to go and was denied access. Some odd MiB types were near by furthering my suspicions that not all was on the level that day. I wasn't aware of Daniels trip.
It's possible I'll travel again to South America, but with the state of travel out of the states (and in) it might be 3-4 years from now.
It's possible I'll travel again to South America, but with the state of travel out of the states (and in) it might be 3-4 years from now.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
« on: May 10, 2025, 05:06:38 PM »
Have you taken note of every one of these penguin pictures?
Take a moment now and peruse the pictures. Nay, trust me not. Go to google, search penguin, click images. Take them all in.
The word penguin has an interesting etymology. Edward Fenton Supposedly during his voyages came across the curious creatures and dubbed them "pen gwyn". This is all well and good until you realize its translation from the welsh - literally "white head."
Now recall our little trip to the online zoo of penguins and every one of those pictures.
What colour was the penguins head?
That's right, it was black.
Consider this - the latin for plump; the latin for fat? "Pinguis." Another clue - hidden in time in a way. Do they really take us for such fools as they think we wouldn't figure it out?
Take a moment now and peruse the pictures. Nay, trust me not. Go to google, search penguin, click images. Take them all in.
The word penguin has an interesting etymology. Edward Fenton Supposedly during his voyages came across the curious creatures and dubbed them "pen gwyn". This is all well and good until you realize its translation from the welsh - literally "white head."
Now recall our little trip to the online zoo of penguins and every one of those pictures.
What colour was the penguins head?
That's right, it was black.
Consider this - the latin for plump; the latin for fat? "Pinguis." Another clue - hidden in time in a way. Do they really take us for such fools as they think we wouldn't figure it out?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who Are the Most Nobel Receipicients?
« on: May 09, 2025, 02:45:34 AM »
Its me. Just give it a few years.
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Flat Earth General / The Submoon
« on: May 09, 2025, 02:43:58 AM »
I've recently been able to recover more data from my studies around the sub-moon and its affects on tides. Maybe the relativistic view is wrong after all.
I've seen it match all expected parameters up to this point. What are your folks concerns about the submoon? I'm still on a curious ledge, but it might hold more weight than I initially thought when I discovered it.
I've seen it match all expected parameters up to this point. What are your folks concerns about the submoon? I'm still on a curious ledge, but it might hold more weight than I initially thought when I discovered it.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat earth questions
« on: May 09, 2025, 01:49:00 AM »
There is historical basis for flat earthers believing in it due to biblicism. Many do today, you might have seen them on youtube. We subscribe to science here. I'm the president of the society, and here's an article in which I talk to it a bit.
https://www.pastemagazine.com/tech/a-conversation-with-a-flat-earth-believer
https://www.pastemagazine.com/tech/a-conversation-with-a-flat-earth-believer